・genshin-spoilers

[atomic shoal]

YEA EVEN ME WHO FEELS BAD FOR HER KNOWS SHE DESERVED IT

[wanton wing]

just like how ppl simped for signora, childe, scaramouche, baal etc

[weary oriole]

lmao same take the word apologist from both fandom and everything's gonna be ok

[signal crown]

something suspicious about teppei , why would he on the God Island ? i mean we dispatched to investigate there

[tired marlin]

man.

[wanton wing]

villains are usually well liked to satisfy people’s guilty pleasures

[brittle silo]

I just like the villains in Genshin because they're well written and enjoyable to see on screen

[atomic shoal]

add doggorou there when he releases lmao

[wanton wing]

but like these characters arent even real to begin with, liking a shitty character shouldnt make u a shitty person is my take

[tired marlin]

most apologists in dsmptwt are meming but there was that one time someone made a manifesto defending c!dream 😭

[brittle silo]

And by villains I mean the Fatui and by some extent Baal.

[atomic shoal]

yea

[atomic shoal]

yea

[tired marlin]

they were serious

[uneven turret]

right which is why i don't really agree with people saying the fatui killed him. it takes away from the weight of the sacrifice he CHOSE to make. it is very tragic though, bc like you said he really wasn't useless. he contributed a lot. armies need more than just people on the front lines.

[atomic shoal]

[tired marlin]

agreed

[uneven turret]

thank you

[wanton wing]

[tired marlin]

i love dazai and fyodor in bsd even tho i know full well they’ve commited heinous crimes

[wanton wing]

coughs bakugou fans

[tired marlin]

because they’re just so well written

[brittle silo]

The Fatui only took advantage of that weakness. They didn't kill him, they took advantage of him. People arguing that the Fatui killed him aren't wrong but it's more just how you stand on the "Who do you blame? The drug user or the drug dealer?" Debate.

[atomic shoal]

remember when people were saying Sangonomiya is working with the fatui and telling those who were pulling for her that she was evil lmao

[wanton wing]

why should there even be a side to blame tho both have faults

[uneven turret]

im seeing people on twt who are like "omg you still like scaramouche after what he did?? but he's a bad guy!!" like uh.. yeah i know that lol

[tired marlin]

like kel put it, “doing one bad thing doesn’t make you a bad person” if you like a fictional bad character thats fine, but if you go hating on other characters for supposedly being mean to your narratively bad character then just??

[atomic shoal]

they basically indirectly killed him ig

[uneven turret]

id argue its wrong to put all the blame on either the drug dealer or the drug user and same thing in this case

[wanton wing]

arguing over fictional characters in general is cringe

[brittle silo]

Banger tweet.

[wanton wing]

genshintwt is the prime example

[tired marlin]

also people blame kazuha for surviving im just so

[wanton wing]

tf???

[atomic shoal]

what?????

[weary oriole]

ppl do that??

[wanton wing]

people are mad hes alive?

bruhhh

[tired marlin]

its twitter

[uneven turret]

yeah ppl are mad raiden didn't kill him

[atomic shoal]

He has no reason to die

wtf

[tired marlin]

plenty

[wanton wing]

twt is just mad at the world

mad over everything

[atomic shoal]

twt is stupid

[tired marlin]

my man legit has survivor’s guilt and a sake shop owner had to tell him he still had reasons to live for

[brittle silo]

Scaramouche sentencing Signora to death by redirecting most of the Traveler's rage to her is such a good villain move man

[uneven turret]

signora mains is full of ppl salty and mad kazuha is breathing

[wanton wing]

“omg i cant believe they didnt follow my expectation and kill off a fan favorite omg reeeeeee”

[tired marlin]

he is depressed and theyre victim blaming im so

[signal crown]

Dead leaker , what the sacred sakura tree level cap in 2.2 ?

[uneven turret]

he's smart lol

[atomic shoal]

Scara is such an amazing antagonist I was really hoping they antagonized him a bit more this archon quest

[wanton wing]

so who was the one that killed tomo? was it shogun or ei

[signal crown]

40 or 50 ? tsurumi is final one , no way its gonna be 40

[wanton wing]

or makoto?

[tired marlin]

i very much enjoy shigaraki’s character and many people do and i’m glad people don’t argue about his character that much in the fandom

[tired marlin]

shogun, most likely?

[brittle silo]

Scaramouche better continue to be this smart going forward. I want the Traveler to be wrapped around his finger for an Arc or two because from a writing perspective, that would be so fucking cool.

[atomic shoal]

Ei/Raiden Shogun

[tired marlin]

wait when she uses musou no hitotachi is it ei or shogun?

[uneven turret]

yandere scaramouche lets goooo

[tired marlin]

ei right? since the conciousness is the sword?

[weary oriole]

It was shogun the puppet. Since ei has been in her plane of euthymia

[tired marlin]

this this thisss

[atomic shoal]

Tomo fought against sara to a duel before the throne and he lost so he faced "divine punishment"

[wanton wing]

yea i think its cus they kinda sympathize with him since he literally perished his own memories and let himself get so easily manipulated but IDK i dropped the series

[tired marlin]

i loved seeing the heroes have no chance in bungou stray dogs because of that exact reason

all was going according to fyodor’s plan and they didn’t even know it

[wanton wing]

ei still hasnt apologized to kazoo for killing his bff

[uneven turret]

i love a smart antagonist

[atomic shoal]

I don't think she needs to apologize for that

[tired marlin]

i feel terrible for him because if society didnt have the bystander effect afo wouldnt have the chance to manipulate him

[weary oriole]

I really hope mhy isn't just gonna end the scara lore after act 3

[atomic shoal]

Tomo knew what he was getting into

[tired marlin]

but i also acknowledge that hooooly crap he decimated a city

[wanton wing]

antagonists are well liked bc theyre usually well written as complex characters instead of “i lost this so im going to become stronger and protect that”

[tired marlin]

kazuha doesnt want her to

[atomic shoal]

exactly

[tired marlin]

if she did, that would mean his death was in vain

[atomic shoal]

yea

[tired marlin]

his honour wouldn’t be respected

[wanton wing]

it would be awkward if she did

[tired marlin]

agreed

[atomic shoal]

And like I said Tomo knew what he was getting into

[brittle silo]

They wouldn't do that
I feel like they're building Scara to be the next target for the traveler's anger in the same way Signora was. But he won't go down as easily.

[tired marlin]

wait who r u talking about

[weary oriole]

Good point I think it's just a matter of when we'll see him again

[uneven turret]

i don't think scara will die though

[wanton wing]

like in general

[tired marlin]

oooo

agreed then :D

[wanton wing]

i feel like scara wouldnt die so easily like wat happened to signora

[atomic shoal]

yea and Yae said Scara was really strong

[uneven turret]

like i'm not just saying that bc of bias, its more that his avatar in the game files has been designated playable for awhile

[wanton wing]

since he is superior in terms of power according to yae

yea

[atomic shoal]

remember when people thought beidou was gonna die

lmao

[wanton wing]

i really hope to see him more again 😭 his screentime was so short pls

[wanton wing]

that was a funny meme

[atomic shoal]

they could've done so much more to his character

[weary oriole]

we never got an explanation on what "eternity stretches things out over a long time and each moment within it becomes all the more fragile" means. he just barged into 2. 1 and left

[uneven turret]

signore was always listed as monster and scara is playable boy_catalyst

[atomic shoal]

yea lmao

[uneven turret]

so i'm more curious how they're going to get to the point scara can become playable/be on good enough terms with traveler to join them.

[brittle silo]

I thought he was referring to the stability of Inazuma since that's what he was talking about in the sentence prior I believe.

[wanton wing]

ikr

[uneven turret]

its ok he'll be back 3.1

[brittle silo]

The dialogue if you haven't met him before is also kinda lacking at the beginning
Bro the "You look like you want me dead" line is so good.

[atomic shoal]

I wish there's a cryo dps called bronya who comes from snezhnaya

[weary oriole]

that's reasonable but mhy definitely could've put mroe into him

[signal crown]

where the seelie ? i use 111% of my brain to find this (to Complete Achviement pls)

[wanton wing]

i feel like scara would be like a mix of childe and xiao where he respects you for your strength but also keeps his distance

[atomic shoal]

That's what he said if u did the event?

[weary oriole]

barges into 1.1
sky is a lie
leaves
barges into 2.1
you're getting weak
leaves

[brittle silo]

Something to that effect I believe. Lemme go check.

[tired marlin]

next he’s gonna say medicines are false and leave in sumeru

[weary oriole]

what quest is this from--

[atomic shoal]

ty

[brittle silo]

The most recent one.

If you did the funny uhhh

Stars event with Mona

The OG Scaramouche introduction

[atomic shoal]

wasn't it a fishcl event

[signal crown]

ITS HERE

[brittle silo]

Shhhh
It was the Mona and Scaramouche show

[uneven turret]

i loved that, it was good in jp too. he's basically like, "even though we're finally together again after such a long time, you look like you want to take my life" like he says it like he missed them lol

[weary oriole]

i have a question raiden was a human?

[atomic shoal]

idk

[bleak fox]

Ooh now I get the mask symbols in Watatsumi

[weary oriole]

before becoming an archon

[uneven turret]

unknown

[weary oriole]

[atomic shoal]

we know Zhongli was an adeptus and venti was a wind spirit

[bleak fox]

It's for Rinzou's mark to bury his chests

[atomic shoal]

but nothing onEi

[brittle silo]

Scaramouche boss theme is going to slap so hard

[weary oriole]

bruh......

[tired marlin]

why arent signora stans happy she died? she’s with her lover now :D

[atomic shoal]

Ei senpai

[weary oriole]

yeah can t wait for 7.9

[atomic shoal]

Mei senpai

[atomic shoal]

6.9*

[uneven turret]

scaramouche is just fucking cool, his character design, his vibe, idc

[weary oriole]

[brittle silo]

7.9 paying off shit that happened in 2.1 you already know how Mihoyo is gonna play this game

[uneven turret]

not 7.9 😭

[weary oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-shining-the-cross-eyed-gif-13227417

[wanton wing]

he would be like “you want to have a chat with me? foolish” in teapot

[atomic shoal]

I FOUND SOMEONE WHO THINKS THE SAME AS ME

[tired marlin]

i kinda wish venti had a part in ending signora but that wouldnt make sense for his character

[atomic shoal]

https://youtu.be/yzJif2AH1cA

[uneven turret]

i had my venti deal the finishing blow lmao

[wanton wing]

[brittle silo]

Sweats

[uneven turret]

who is this person and why should i care what they think

[atomic shoal]

I

[brittle silo]

It's always nice to hear other opinions.

[wanton wing]

he has that bad bitch vibe and im living for that

[brittle silo]

Since I gotta agree, some of the shit in the Inazuma quest was disappointing and it's still my favorite Archon quest

[atomic shoal]

what she's talking about is what I ranted about omg

[uneven turret]

i like this idea in theory but sometimes i hear other opinions and wish i hadn't

[wanton wing]

personally i think inazuma quest isnt on par to liyue quests but i gotta admit the fights were epic

[brittle silo]

Genshintwt momento. . .
Touching Genshintwt to hear their thoughts on this quest were a mistake

[tired marlin]

plot pacing girlie

[atomic shoal]

tf?

[wanton wing]

its just more straight forward than “omg morax faked his death so he could retire omg childe wat tf u do”

[tired marlin]

imagine introducing a character that just came back after updates of being absent and him dying

makes sooooo much sense doesnt it

[wanton wing]

sounds like every anime tbh

[uneven turret]

that is so stupid lmao

[junior shoal]

Guys,is the catch weapon permanent??

[wanton wing]

why would he be the one to die tho

[brittle silo]

If anyone were to die over Signora I could see Kazuha and that's about it.

[wanton wing]

ya

i think

[junior shoal]

Oh that's nice ..

[junior shoal]

[atomic shoal]

Scaramouche doesn
't even feel antagonized enough

[uneven turret]

why should scaramouche have died instead of signora

[wanton wing]

the fact that yae had to trade the gnosis to save ur life is enough to say how strong scara really is

[atomic shoal]

and it's the 1st time alotof players met him

[uneven turret]

i keep seeing ppl on twt saying he was the mastermind behind the delusion factory but when did it ever say that

and who would have killed him

he's too powerful

[wanton wing]

like if yae didnt had the gnosis you wouldve died and game over

[junior shoal]

If signora is the 8th harbinger and their ranking is their power level
Shouldn't the 10th harbinger be a piece of cake?

[atomic shoal]

He said he was just a puppet right? or was he talking about him being a clone lmao

[brittle silo]

Yae being like "I um the uh the uh gnosis I kinda uh 👉👈" and honestly if Scaramouche just left the fatui with it I would laugh so hard

[wanton wing]

yea scara is just following orders

[atomic shoal]

I honestly thought yae was working with the fatui there

[uneven turret]

like i said i feel like if he was responsible he would brag about it lol

[wanton wing]

just like childe was when he summoned osial

[tired marlin]

every fatui ever: im just following orders lol

and everyone believes it everytime

[brittle silo]

The Fatui are just puppets on a stage. It's kinda obvious.

[tired marlin]

because oh no!! my widdle baby meow meow could never 🥰

[wanton wing]

signora got too ahead of herself tho and she died as result

[uneven turret]

him sending traveler after signora

[brittle silo]

Signora was a puppet and disposable
Childe was a puppet for Signora
And Scaramouche is a puppet for who knows who

[atomic shoal]

yea

[snow lion]

to be fair, it seemed more like he laid a trap, don't think he just crushed us with the power of his mind, even if he's baal clone.

[uneven turret]

idk what he was doing to us but it was hot

[atomic shoal]

LMAO

[wanton wing]

he wasnt the mastermind behind the whole vision hunt tho

[atomic shoal]

a simp is a simp after all

[atomic shoal]

yea

[snow lion]

probably dottore I'd imagine.

[brittle silo]

Honestly I could see it.

[snow lion]

well given that scara was experimented(?) on by him, it'd make sense.

[wanton wing]

all the fatui are disposable puppets to tsarita

[brittle silo]

There could also be the case where if they decide to bring Signora back, she basically becomes a puppet of Dottore

[uneven turret]

if scara is being controlled by dottore he is def going to rebel at some point, his artifact lore screams it

[atomic shoal]

yea

[uneven turret]

"i am free to choose how i wish to spend the remainder of my days"

[atomic shoal]

Is that scara?

[brittle silo]

Which would also not be good for The Travelers mental health because "Whoops! Person that you accidentally got killed is back as a corpse and the person who brought them back is laughing and talking down to you"

[uneven turret]

yeah

[atomic shoal]

""remainder""

[tired marlin]

i'd love that

[wanton wing]

thats cool

[weary oriole]

Gotta remind everyone that Scaramouche woke up from a dream and knows something about the fake sky. The jester knows about it.

[uneven turret]

yeah that was a big hint to me the arti lore was about him, the "roused himself from slumber" part

bc he did that during the event too lol

[weary oriole]

I would like to talk to him anout the fake sky. 😅

[uneven turret]

fandom makes fun of him for that line but it's probably true

[brittle silo]

"The sky is fake as fuck"

[weary oriole]

Emphasis also that someone in the Fatui ordered him to investigate it. (I think it's the Jester? Fatui Harbinger No 1)

[uneven turret]

sometimes the moon floats in front of celestia

kind of weird

i wonder if that's intentional

[brittle silo]

Scaramouche. . .
Dottore. . .
Signora 😭
Childe. . .
Pierro ☺

[weary oriole]

It is possible that this Jester guy has the answers we are looking for

[brittle silo]

All my beloveds

Okay but he's also

1 in the Fatui

[uneven turret]

like surely this is on purpose

[wanton wing]

all the fatui got some sad ass story man

i was reading signora’s earlier

[brittle silo]

They probably won't wait until Snezhnaya to introduce #1 Espada Member Pierro but also, they can literally introduce him at any point

[wanton wing]

but regardless im excited for more fatui

[brittle silo]

Same

[night brook]

ig since childe weekly bossfight is a walk in the park??

[wanton wing]

and more antagonist characters in genshin

childe is 11

[night brook]

yeah

[brittle silo]

Isn't he the weakest?

[wanton wing]

nah hes the latest to join

[brittle silo]

Ah yeah

[wanton wing]

i dont think the number = the level of strength

[brittle silo]

Well

[brittle silo]

That was Yae's theory at the end of the quest
And it has been kinda proven with the three we've seen

[uneven turret]

i thought yae kind of implied it

yeah

[wanton wing]

yea she said in terms of strength not the seat number

[brittle silo]

Which Yae could totally be wrong and just assuming that cause of Scaramouche

[uneven turret]

i mean it doesn't even really make sense from an in game/meta perspective to have the first harbinger we fight be one of the strongest tbh

[weary oriole]

The number doesn't indicate rank strength

[wanton wing]

yea

like signora being 8th just means she joined fatui earlier than childe

who joined last

[uneven turret]

like some people thought childe was the strongest harbinger but that really doesn't make sense to have us fight the strongest one first and so early in the game

[brittle silo]

Pierro better have some wacky shit going on during on in his boss fight in version 10.0 cause goddamn with the amount of hype generated for him

[charred sky]

|| strongest one gonna be a former god watch lol ||

[weary oriole]

It's like a numbered seat. If the eighth seat is vacant, you get the eighth seat

[uneven turret]

scara is def the most powerful we know of so far i think but i'm excited to learn about the others

[wanton wing]

imo childe is stronger than signora in terms of strength? since he had 2 forms + fowl legacy whereas signora only had 2

[brittle silo]

Which, since that's the case, everyone below Signora's number is like
400+ years older

Also

[night brook]

if signora's seat is empty now who tf is gonna take it

[brittle silo]

Signora was kind of an Elemental I believe sooo

[wanton wing]

theyre easily replaced apparently

[night brook]

sad

[wanton wing]

inb4 its itto

[uneven turret]

yeah there are fatui in mondstadt talking about signora's death and wondering who will replace her

[brittle silo]

Oh so everyone already knows

Well

Fatui

[wanton wing]

prob a franken signora made by dottore

[weary oriole]

Omg. Childe is literally the baby of the group. He's like 20-24 among the boomers of 100+ years old.

[night brook]

i wonder if childe has smth to say about her death in a later update

[wanton wing]

dottore gonna play with her ashes

[uneven turret]

scaramouche will laugh and tell traveler well done

[wanton wing]

childe i feel like would be the only one to actually be sad to hear about signora’s death

dudes soft af

[brittle silo]

Imagine if the Eighth Seat gets replaced as a reminder that we can't actually take down the Fatui cause they'll keep replacing their numbers and ranks.

[night brook]

hes soft and im sure he knows her story about the whole crimson witch thimg

[weary oriole]

Childe be like.. We had our differences but.. *sad face

[uneven turret]

geez

[snow lion]

probably childe is going to be the only playable harbinger I imagine, just 'cause he's the most real person of them all.

[wanton wing]

timmie will replace signora’s seat

[snow lion]

or the ones we know of anyway

[weary oriole]

I higjly believe Scaramouche will be playable.

[wanton wing]

same

[brittle silo]

Harbingers I don't believe that are gonna be playable are Pierro and Dottore from the one's we know of

[night brook]

is scaramouche technically a former god since he was supposed to be a vessel for ei?

[uneven turret]

scara is going to be playable like its already set up in the game files that way, they would not have gone through the effort of making his model playable for no reason lol

[weary oriole]

Like a Concept art for Shogun robot

[night brook]

ooh

[snow lion]

I mean, they would. it's mihoyo. I wouldn't use files as evidence 'cause stuff can be planned then scrapped a lot.

[brittle silo]

Cloud Retainer. . .

[night brook]

^we can have hope ig

[wanton wing]

she got scrapped af

[weary oriole]

I wonder how different is Ei's robot from Albedo

[snow lion]

I just think Childe is probably going to be the most empathetic of the harbingers, which is what allows him to be playable. The others just seem a bit too unhinged.

[brittle silo]

When Scaramouche comes out I want his voicelines about Albedo to just be

[uneven turret]

idk. scara is very popular in cn and jp fandoms, and they're the ones that spend money. and they got a really famous expensive VA to voice him in jp. he's playable in the files, listed as a catalyst user. ei has a voiceline about him. idk. i really don't think they'd give up the money they'd make from a scaramouche banner.

[weary oriole]

Mihoyo will find a way. Just like they did to Raiden.

[wanton wing]

same

scara va is very pog

[uneven turret]

its possible he wont be playable i guess but it would be a dumb decision on their part. i know cloud retainer was scrapped but there was not nearly as much hype for her as there is for scaramouche

[wanton wing]

im sure he will be just not any time soon

[snow lion]

I mean, there was a lot of hype for signora as well lol

[brittle silo]

I don't really think being unhinged is something that removes a character from being playable.
Mihoyo uh
They go crazy with that

Also again

[wanton wing]

no way will mhy design him and not sell him

[brittle silo]

SIgnora has not been deconfirmed for being playable

[weary oriole]

Scara JP is Kakihara Tetsuya. Very famous.

[wanton wing]

yea hes va for natsu

[uneven turret]

yeah kakki is great

lots of people would pull just for his va lol

[weary oriole]

And he voiced Amaimon in Blue Exorcist.

[snow lion]

people said that about childe as well lmao. I just think the way character story quests have been set up, it seems very weird to have some story quest where we go on a date with scaramouche even though he seems pretty psychotic.

[wanton wing]

signora va not very well known but she voiced signora perfectly despite having only voiced cute shoujo characters

[uneven turret]

seems very wonderful to me

[wanton wing]

she pulled off the ara ara vibe super nicely

[brittle silo]

Remember that not every 5 star quest is a date. Some of them are just "We're going to work."

[wanton wing]

ya like ei story was taking pics of her and watching her fight a npc

[snow lion]

No, but I can't imagine Scara giving off that vibe. Even Xiao who is probably the least approachable character in terms of personality is very different to scara imo.

It's not just scara, just saying for all harbingers. Childe seems like the only one who fits the mold of a playable char.

[brittle silo]

I agree to disagree on this one

[weary oriole]

If story quests are dates for 5stars, I enjoyed the most with Childe. Lol. What is more fun than beating ruin guards simultaneously

[wanton wing]

childe and zhongli story quests were most enjoyable for me

and ofc ei’s too as well

[uneven turret]

venti and zhongli for me

[snow lion]

hiring a popular VA for him doesn't necessarily mean he has to be playable. He could just have a bigger story role or something.

[uneven turret]

you seem very against him being playable lol

[wanton wing]

hutao’s story quest was cute af but there wasnt really any challenge to it

[snow lion]

No, you are just hyperfocused on scara when I said every harbinger except childe.

lmao

[weary oriole]

Ending cutscene for Venti carried his story, otherwise it was boring. Though his story quest is far the best for me

[wanton wing]

trust me mhy will make him playable esp how much fans he’s already attracted

[brittle silo]

Idk man

[wanton wing]

he will make them money lol

[brittle silo]

Mihoyo likes money
No amount of reasoning is going to make me think otherwise.

[snow lion]

every character makes them money dude. even yoimiya made them money.

[uneven turret]

im focused on scara bc there's tons of demand for him to be playable and his model is already designed to be playable lol

[devout nebula]

Anyone remember how many prototypes it took before Ei made the Shogun body

[uneven turret]

some make more money than others

[snow lion]

they make multi millions off characters that they can't even be bothered making unique models for, they're just "teen male adult male child female teen female adult female" 1 of 5 body types.

[devout nebula]

Was looking through Raiden's lines and one of them is about a byproduct of the Raiden Shogun body

[wanton wing]

u basically agreeing that scara will make money too so theres no doubt he wont be playable

[brittle silo]

^

[devout nebula]

Male too

[snow lion]

not even remotely what I said, but alright.

scara fans braindead as usual.

[brittle silo]

Idk you're kinda proving the point that if every character makes money, then hyped characters would also make money

[weary oriole]

So which person joined my party? Is it Ei or Shogun robot?

[brittle silo]

Not just Scara

But all of the Harbingers

[wanton wing]

u said every character makes money so you’re implying scara will make money too so with that logic why wouldn’t mhy make him playable

[devout nebula]

The Robot but Ei is more active

[weary oriole]

So both?

[devout nebula]

Yeah

[weary oriole]

Ooh i see thanks

[devout nebula]

Her lines mention ignoring what the Shogun bot says

[wanton wing]

ofc here comes the namecalling bc we agree to disagree lol

[snow lion]

because making money isn't a qualifier to make a character playable if all of them make money anyway. It's not some desperation play they need to make scara playable to make $15m instead of $10m.

[devout nebula]

So you essentially get both but Ei will talk through it

[wanton wing]

we couldve had a civil convo without u needing to call people braindead lol

[devout nebula]

Tbh my opinion is

Until I see reason to believe otherwise Scara will be playable

[brittle silo]

I'm not just defending Scaramouche here as a playable character, I'm also defending the Harbingers as a collective being playable. Villain groups in Gacha games usually get a lot of money and it's not just a situation where "Every character makes money" some characters make more money than others. Hype is a big factor. Importance in the story is a big factor.

No need to get angry, we're just disagreeing on something here 😊

[devout nebula]

Rest in piece full set

Not that I am expecting all 12 to be playable

Dottore for example

[brittle silo]

Oh yeah Dottore is a no from me too

Unless they do something

[snow lion]

why not?

[devout nebula]

He's a scientist

So unless his playstyle is a puppet gimmick I don't see him having any combat capability

[uneven turret]

i mean all of them make money but some make more than others and don't they want to make as much money as possible? thus choosing popular/hyped characters? albedo banner made 11 million, venti banner made 30 million. you don't think they'd rather make 30?

[snow lion]

okay and? Alchemy is a kind of science in the genshin world, and both sucrose and albedo are playable.

[wanton wing]

did u forget genshin is a gacha game? every character can make money = be playable esp if the fanbase demands for it, it’s win win to both the company and the fans to have characters like signora/scara to be playable so there wouldnt be a reason not to make them playable lol

[brittle silo]

He doesn't have a vision (at least from what I know), doesn't do all that much fighting, and seems more like a Mastermind kind of villain. Not saying that he wouldn't be cool as a playable character but they would have to make him very interesting game play wise

[devout nebula]

Yeah Puppet is what I am thinking

[wanton wing]

why would they hire expensive famous va and hire artists to design unique design of a character and not sell it?

[devout nebula]

Or kinda like a summoner

[wanton wing]

like they would be clowning themself to spend all that money and not gain profit off it

[devout nebula]

VA is actually a big thing actually

[uneven turret]

dottore crosses the moral event horizon for me with his experimenting on children and stuff, but i don't think its impossible for him to be playable, just unlikely. its not like there's tons of people demanding he become playable either

[devout nebula]

Especially if you base it off JP

[wanton wing]

yea

[devout nebula]

Signora's JP Va is new

[snow lion]

isn't childe's VA far more popular? not like he sold that well.

[uneven turret]

yeah jp fans will pull characters just for the VA

[brittle silo]

Famous is still famous.

[devout nebula]

It's why Yoimiya sold well in Japan

[uneven turret]

childe sold well in japan too

[wanton wing]

a lot of people play genshin for the VAs and theres nothing wrong with it (me included)

[snow lion]

no, but the arguments I'm getting is "they hired a very popular VA so he's going to sell well"

[tired marlin]

(looks at my kazuha and the fact that i partly pulled him for nobunaga shimazaki)

[devout nebula]

It's a reasonable arguement

[wanton wing]

well its true

[snow lion]

sure, except explain childe?

[uneven turret]

yes and childe did sell well in japan, his poor sales numbers are from china

[devout nebula]

Nana Mizuki will always sell well in Japan

[brittle silo]

The argument is that they put a lot valuable resources into a character and will continue to and it wouldn't make sense for them to waste resources on a character they can't get money from

[snow lion]

Selling well means selling well. I'm talking about gross profits here, not region specific.

[wanton wing]

i mean childe va is pog

i love bokuto from haikyuu

[brittle silo]

BOKUTO

[uneven turret]

but profits are region specific, we don't have global profit numbers

[devout nebula]

Mihoyo's main secondary audience is Japan

[wanton wing]

anime fans are like the main audience of genshin so having famous anime VAs to voice their characters = making money

[kindred wing]

i’ve heard CN fans are also really hyped for some of the Harbingers (e.g Scara)

[wanton wing]

like barbruh’s jp va is nezuko from demon slayer

[devout nebula]

Gorou is pretty big too

Like if we get a Sugita character that will sell well

[uneven turret]

apparently china makes up 29.5% of player spending, japan 27.2%, and NA 18.5%

[wanton wing]

also if u like haikyuu they also voiced these characters

venti is hinata

[devout nebula]

Yeah I was right

CN games wise CN will always be leading

[wanton wing]

yuh sounds about right

[uneven turret]

yeah a lot of cn fans are crazy about scara and demand he get added to the pool or they will kill themselves and stuff

[devout nebula]

Unless special cases

[small anchor]

no cap I'm glad Signora dies

[wanton wing]

cn fans are all types of crazy

[devout nebula]

So like Twitter stans?

CN fans are scary

[wanton wing]

theyre crazy not pepega

[kindred wing]

that’s kinda insane omg

[uneven turret]

lmao

[wanton wing]

twitter stans are pepega

[devout nebula]

Like they literally got Ai Kayano on a CN blacklist

[wanton wing]

why

[devout nebula]

Shrine thing

[wanton wing]

wat shrine thing

[devout nebula]

She got removed from all the CH gacha games she voiced in and will be replaced

[wanton wing]

rip

[devout nebula]

Basically she had picture in a shrine that celebrated Japanese soliders and she said it's peaceful

Some of the soldiers there were from Japan's asshole days

CN fans got mad

Insisted on removing her

[wanton wing]

i remember when jp VAs in onmyoji got cancelled for voicing her views on politics and she got boycotted by cn fans

[devout nebula]

They somehow got it

[tired marlin]

who?

[wanton wing]

ohhhh ya i think ive heard of that

[simple lark]

they committed several war crimes so not just "ass hole days" LOL

[wanton wing]

this gal

[devout nebula]

Very big

[tired marlin]

ooo

[devout nebula]

Mihoyo actually had her hired to voice someone in their other games

She got replaced pretty recently

[tired marlin]

the stories that the elders in my country mention are terrifying honestly

[uneven turret]

i pulled xiao and xingqiu and venti for their VAs lol

[wanton wing]

CN fans are pretty crazy ngl

[tired marlin]

rip

[wanton wing]

esp if it has to do with politics

[devout nebula]

Like they have actual political power

It's pretty scary

[willow shoal]

me and my friend who's fishing like
https://streamable.com/vubwf4

[devout nebula]

If they twist something enough to be anti China they can get the CCP backing

[wanton wing]

reminds me when they made coco from hololive apolgize and cancelled her for mentioning taiwan in one of her streams

and hololive bootlicks CN so she was forced to

[willow shoal]

as a taiwanese... 👀

[wanton wing]

idk anything about vtubers but that was a tea i read about

[willow shoal]

HAHAHHAH

[wanton wing]

ayo im taiwanese too

[uneven turret]

lol the chinese girls gacha game mr love queens choice just had most of the eng VAs fired recently bc one of them said taiwan is a country or something on his twitter and others stuck up for him when he got fired

[wanton wing]

[willow shoal]

EYYYY SMALL WORLD

[wanton wing]

AAYYYOOO taiwan numba wan

[devout nebula]

They didn't. They literally got rid of their CN branch after the suspension

[wanton wing]

oh really

[devout nebula]

They were forced into an ultimatum

[wanton wing]

idk the details but shes graduated from hololive anyway

[devout nebula]

Graduate Coco and keep your CN fanbase

Or get out

[wanton wing]

smh

[devout nebula]

They chose the latter

CN people were surprised I heard

[wanton wing]

this was just like when CN fans made tzuyu from kpop group Twice apologize bc she held up a taiwan flag in a mv too

[devout nebula]

They went pretty bad after that

[willow shoal]

[wanton wing]

smh

[wanton wing]

[devout nebula]

Thankfully Coco graduated on simply what was feeling terrible comparing to her peers

So you know all good

[wanton wing]

tfw china hates taiwan so much but has a TW/HK server on genshin

[charred sky]

Lol

[devout nebula]

Still CN fanbase is definitely a group I follow closely

Because if they get mad something might actually come out of it

[charred sky]

Yeah like zhongli buffs

[wanton wing]

i played CN onmyoji and most ppl are really chill about taiwan being country etc so safe to conclude that its only some CN fans that are extremely insane

[devout nebula]

They twisted Zhongli into being a representative of China

When Liyue was only really inspired by it arguably

[wanton wing]

they thinkinh zhongli be their xi daddy

[devout nebula]

But hey it worked out

[devout nebula]

It's the Pro CCP people definitely

The very nationalist side

[wanton wing]

yea there were a lot of cultural details in liyue that were pretty neat tbh

[wanton wing]

yea ofc

[tired marlin]

slides in

is the channel dead?

[uneven turret]

i like how she's like "what that chess piece thing? ya i gave it to him"

[tired cave]

Did traveler defeat baal?

[distant sentinel]

She warned Ei About it when she gave it to her

[fluid palm]

gtalk stop calling her "baal" challenge (impossible)

[tired marlin]

every 5 minutes someone calls her baal lol

not even minutes every 30 seconds

[tired cave]

Becuase we are used to saying baal baal. So yea it doesn't matter if we say baal or ei as long as u guys gets what I'm Saying.

[snow lion]

was never a fan of calling her baal. like, no one ever calls him morax or barbatos. just weird that the canonical least common usage of her name which isn't even correct, was like, the most common way fans referred to her.

I guess because it's shorter than raiden idk

[glad quiver]

For me it's cause it was weird to call her raiden shogun

[weary oriole]

thet might use Baal to prevent spoilers

[glad quiver]

the same way I dont call zhongli "rex lapis"

plus shorter! hooray for laziness!

Even better now that her name is Ei. Even lazier!

[fluid palm]

always called her raiden, thought calling her by her archon name was like calling venti and zhongli "barbatos" and "morax"

[tired cave]

The name baal sounds cooler than shogun to me.

[weary oriole]

the thing with venti and zhongli, we meet them as venti and zhongli, unlike Baal, whom we heard first from Zhongli

[fluid palm]

wtf was with that though
why did zhongli lie to us like that??

[snow lion]

yeah but even zhongli calls her raiden shogun

[fluid palm]

he told us she was alive

[snow lion]

Or rather, he said she goes by raiden shogun in inazuma

[weary oriole]

can't remember much but afair Zhongli said Baal.

[tired marlin]

does anyone know how we do the Side by Side venture event thing?

[weary oriole]

i don't know if zhongli knows real Baal died or she has a twin

[tired marlin]

like, what do we need to do i dont understand

[tired marlin]

i think he knows maybe? because venti mentioned meeting her when she was just a kagemusha

[fluid palm]

venti and zhongli know im pretty sure, what's weirder is that paimon acts as if zhongli told us she was dead

[smoky axle]

I hope the Fatui will have their own version of Ruin Guards similar to the Dark Troopers from Star Wars

[snow lion]

He should know... right? Since Baal died in Khaenriah, if he thought the current electro archon was new, then they'd be as young as sumeru archon.

or he wasn't aware she died there.

[tired marlin]

nope

wait

hold on my brain

[fluid palm]

dark troopers and storm troopers are both sith though, but i like the idea of "fatui ruin guards"

[tired marlin]

he?

[weary oriole]

Zhongli and Venti knew that they are the only ones left from OG7

[smoky axle]

Like have their introduction be in Sumeru or Fontaine where they fly out of the sky and steal a Gnosis from an injured Archon

Like have a Ruin Machine but with Fatui stuff on it, like a modified weapon or jetpacks

[weary oriole]

but why would Zhongli refer to Raiden Shogun as Baal if he knew Baal!Real was already dead.

[glad quiver]

cause it's rude to spill out someone else's secrets smh

[snow lion]

also, wouldn't Ei technically be an OG? I guess since she wasn't technically the archon?

[weary oriole]

But arent ruin guards fatui made copies of field tillers

[glad quiver]

i mean for all intents and purposes

Ei became Baal

[weary oriole]

maybe they don't know about the twin sister

[smoky axle]

No, they are replicas of the original field tillers from Khaenriah

[odd crater]

r/signoramains is so sad oml

i guess the theory makes sense but still

[smoky axle]

I mean like a Fatui modified a Ruin Guard with their own tinkering and stuff, but also have some sort of AI

[odd crater]

Also in the longrun signora isnt even THAT important

she’s merely a soldier for an army

[smoky axle]

She is just a pawn for a greater purpose

[fluid palm]

zhongli's line about beelzebul is "about baal" so ig we should just assume that he didn't know

[glad quiver]

Man these people do be thinkin' signora is some key player in the greater scope of things and it's kinda sad

[smoky axle]

I know that the first harbinger and tsaritsa are major characters

[odd crater]

Childe wont be relevant until we visit him in inazuma

or if he leaves the fatui

Scaramouche is the most relevant harbinger rn

[smoky axle]

Nah he'll be alive until we reach Snezhnaya

[fluid palm]

tbf the crimson witch was an incredibly interesting topic

too bad her power was extremely over exaggerated and she was just used as a throw away villain

[weary oriole]

haven't your heard about the leaks?

[glad quiver]

Signora will be more relevant than ever now, since every monday I will get to bully her

[odd crater]

Signora literally had 2 appearances before her death and people think she’s important for the story

The scene where she has most screentime is when she dies

[snow lion]

I get to bully Signora every monday with my Raiden, knowing I'm adhering to the story canon.

[odd crater]

lol

[smoky axle]

Pierro will be the second to last boss in Snezhnaya and after that it's the Cryo Archon

[weary oriole]

Scaramouche made an appearance during a 1.1 event and peoplee never forget about him.. meanwhile Signora.. 😂

[glad quiver]

It's the ugly shorts for me

[odd crater]

r/signoramains has a megathread of like 300 people calling mihoyo horrible writers

[glad quiver]

i haven't forgiven him for those still

[smoky axle]

I mean isn't it just to go forward with the plot

[fresh perch]

lmao venti mains having a whole ass party rn

[odd crater]

Genshin impact has one of the best stories out of all the games i’ve played

[smoky axle]

I mean I bet in every region a harbinger dies while a new one is introduced

[snow lion]

tbh the signora fight was kinda forced. I wouldn't say they are horrible writers, but it wasn't the best way to go about it imo.

[tired marlin]

kekw

[weary oriole]

when she hits Venti, it became personal
to me (and to her I guess)

she deserves to die

[odd crater]

to be fair, the traveler was having a panic attack and didnt think before he spoke

[fluid palm]

nah but honestly? they ain't THAT wrong (though it's probably just them being salty)

not cause of signora, but cause of her being the crimson witch all along
she had such a cool story, only for it to be thrown away like some kind of shitty mcu villain

[odd crater]

i mean she was kinda set up for death since the start

Extremely cocky

[tired marlin]

btw, when will the login event thingy happened if anyone knows?

[snow lion]

yeah that's why it comes across as forced. It's just like, a moment of emotional outburst that concludes in someone dying.

[odd crater]

and underestimates the protagonist

[weary oriole]

signora was a typical disney villain
thanos much better than her

[odd crater]

Wasnt signora the one that said the loser would die though

[snow lion]

which is pretty extreme considering what we've had in the story thus far.

[glad quiver]

the story wasn't thrown away, it's already there. there was never gonna be a "resolution" for it

[fresh perch]

her cockyness led to her downfall. shes to prideful and thats what got her killed

[glad quiver]

her lover died and she decided to burn everything down

that's it

[odd crater]

Ok correction

[weary oriole]

Damn Inazuma quest was best archon quest by far

[odd crater]

Genshin has the best story out of the fantasy games i’ve played

[weary oriole]

Loved it

[weary oriole]

....

Btw

Signora is dead now

🦩

[fluid palm]

but the way she was described in the crimson witch set had nothing to do with her actual personality???
it's kinda cringe

[glad quiver]

ded

[fresh perch]

i mean you can see it through her story. she was proud to be a harbinger and felt like the strongest without explanation

[odd crater]

i think the crimson witch story takes place before she joined the fatui

[fresh perch]

that pride is what led to her fate

[odd crater]

She underestimated all of her opponents

[smoky axle]

I mean let's hope Pierro is introduced in Chapter 3 and somehow mocks Signora of her demise lol

[fresh perch]

i mean the words she said before dying clearly proves it

"worthless rats"

"how dare you"

[weary oriole]

Signora dying was on screen, mentioned a lot of times, replacement discussed. as if Mihoyo knew that some people will be indeniable and will be looking for proof.

[snow lion]

that isn't entirely true since it was the traveller who issued the challenge. Her cockiness was in accepting it, yeah, but traveller probably would've tried to start shit even if she didn't formally accept.

[odd crater]

She isnt very smart either

[fluid palm]

oh yeah it did, but the sudden change of character makes 0 sense imo

[glad quiver]

'signora is kill'

'no'

[fresh perch]

"im a snazhnayan deplomat, if you touch me ill make sure your precious inazuma.."

[smoky axle]

I hope Pierro is similar to Xemnas from KH2 which that he views the Harbingers as just tools for a greater purpose

[odd crater]

I think her joining the fatui fueled her cockiness because she began getting to competetive with the harbingers

[weary oriole]

I dont really see too much wrong with her dying. She agreed to a duel that everyone knew would lead to death for the loser. It showed that the puppet doesn't hold back

[odd crater]

Signora said that the loser would die because she was certain she would win

[fresh perch]

exactly. since what drives her is her revenge for her dead lover

[weary oriole]

After completing Inazuma i feel like going to sumeru

😳

[odd crater]

There are probably 2-3 more archon quests

I think its gonna be like liyue

[sage flax]

is inazuma over??? isnt there one island left

[weary oriole]

Probably dainsleif

One

The archon quests for it are p much over I think

[odd crater]

4 archon quests, traveler lore and then departure for next region

[glad quiver]

inazuma main story is over, the other island will just be other fluff

[smoky axle]

The main story is over but there is one island left

[sage flax]

inazuma concludes we did not get an inch closer to our sibling

[weary oriole]

Oh right

[fluid palm]

btw i hope they do scaramouche justice at least
have him be the "evil raiden shogun" that he was turned into
lacking empathy, but created to be extremely powerful

[weary oriole]

can anyone provided their hc explanation why the scene during the escape from palace went glitchy. i don't know what that was and looking for some answers

[smoky axle]

I have a feeling the Dainsleif stuff will be in 2.2 or 2.3

[fresh perch]

im hella curious on what they will do with scaramouche

[weary oriole]

There should be one dainsleif quest

I think

[snow lion]

I don't imagine we'll see dainsleif for a while lol. given he went into that portal.

[weary oriole]

Damn

I thought there's one dainsleif quest per region

[fresh perch]

dainsleif is a wanderer theres a possibility we wont see him too soon

[odd crater]

The dainsleif quest location is labeled as ”the sea of flowers”

[smoky axle]

I mean I can expect a filler patch between 2.2 and 2.4

[odd crater]

Its more about the traveler than dainsleif

[weary oriole]

I see

[snow lion]

There will be more parts to Act 2, but the stuff with Inazuma is probably over.

[weary oriole]

rewired by Ei

[smoky axle]

2.5 would be the Chasm and 2.6 or 3.0 will be Sumeru

[weary oriole]

Either everything was hitting traveler at once or it was signifying Raiden was going after them as soon as they left

[odd crater]

I think Inazuma will be shorter than pre 2.0

[snow lion]

Chasm stuff probably will be the bridge between end of Inazuma and start of Sumeru.

[odd crater]

Sumeru will probably be 2.5-6

[fresh perch]

sth concerning our sibling needs to happen to know abt dain once again

[weary oriole]

Chasm is a different region from sumeru ?

It bridges liyue and sumeru

[odd crater]

Chasm is in liyue

[smoky axle]

Chasm is a gateway between Liyue and Sumeru

[snow lion]

Chasm is a subregion like dragonspine.

[odd crater]

Sumeru is south of liyue right?

[weary oriole]

What the

[fresh perch]

its ore heaven

[tired marlin]

ei is an omori kinnie

[weary oriole]

it's black

[odd crater]

Its like pre 1.2 dragonspine

[tired marlin]

or rather, sunny kinnie

[weary oriole]

So i can get all noticulus jade i want ?

😳 😳

[fluid palm]

i hope we get a "abyss sibling" intermission at the end of every chapter

[fresh perch]

i meannn

[weary oriole]

And cor lapis

[fluid palm]

like in chapter 1

[fresh perch]

hell yeah

it was a mining spot

rmbr

[odd crater]

Most likely the case

Its first main story

[weary oriole]

what's an omori kinnie?

[odd crater]

Then traveler lore (the thing you mentioned)

[weary oriole]

I have 4 story quest still left

[odd crater]

and then prep for next region

[weary oriole]

But story quests are boring

[tired marlin]

oh sjcbskx omori is a game, the person is called sunny actually

[weary oriole]

💀

[glad quiver]

time to chill with dain in inazuma

[tired marlin]

its uh complicated

[snow lion]

Raiden was doing something funky to the traveller, since she appears the moment that stuff goes away.

[weary oriole]

No

🔪

[fluid palm]

depressed, is what they mean
the character omori is shown being extremely depressed and a shut-in im pretty sure

[glad quiver]

):

[odd crater]

The traveler was having a panic attack i think

[weary oriole]

hikikomori? i see

[fresh perch]

no it was more of anxiety

[weary oriole]

Ye

Hence omori

[fresh perch]

traveller didnt really believ signora was dead

and it hit him/her like a bus

[fluid palm]

holy shit wait what does hikikomori actually mean?

[weary oriole]

Shut in

[odd crater]

signoras death was so dishonourful

[tired marlin]

yes this

[odd crater]

And thats what makes it good

[weary oriole]

shut in. prevalent among jp youths

[odd crater]

She starts off by saying the loser would die, implying she knew she would win

[tired marlin]

hikikomori means shut in. omori is derived from hikikomori, this was confirmed in the comics

[fluid palm]

ah, im gonna guess they got the name "omori" from that same word then

[odd crater]

Throughout the fight she gets extremely cocky and starts telling the traveler they are pathetic

The fight ends with signora barely being able to move while traveler is unscathed

[fresh perch]

exactly it was a good mix and shows how merciless the shogun is since it follows the rules to the damn latter

[odd crater]

And then she begs for her life, threatens the shogun and then dies a horrible death

[tired marlin]

omori is basically the manifestation of the guilt the character sunny feels towards a tragedy that happened involving him, a "monster" that was formed out of the inability to accept the truth of what happened so omori exists to block said memory and protect sunny from it

[odd crater]

Imagine getting crippled by the person you underestimated and then vaporised by a god

[weary oriole]

hikikomori is a social phenomenon wherein youth feel disengaged with society. they don't work, they don't go outside the house. all they do inside mostly are to play games, eat snack, etc.
Basically Ei.. but she has her reasons

[fresh perch]

LMAOFDVFDB

[tired marlin]

he stayed indoors for 4 years after the tragedy happened, living in his own world called "white space" which has a door that leads to headspace, which is basically his dream world

[odd crater]

”Loser will die”
”k”
gets defeated
”BRO I WAS JOKING I WAS JOKING”

[tired marlin]

he never had any contact with his friends in those 4 years and instead only interacted with them in his headspace

[tired marlin]

LMAOO

[odd crater]

i hope natlan will be a chapter about full out war

[tired marlin]

trying my best not to spoil the plot hdhdjn

[odd crater]

Imagine the sangonomiya vs shogun battle cutscene but 10x bigger and more brutal

[tired marlin]

as a result he's terrible at taking care of himself and is described to be pale and skinny i think? by some of the characters

[odd crater]

Guns exist in the genshin universe

[tired marlin]

that'd be amazing

[weary oriole]

wdym? it's spoiler talk. we are free to discuss it here

[tired marlin]

but everything gets offscreened sigh

[odd crater]

or well

Magic rifles

[tired marlin]

nonono i meant the plot of the game omori

[odd crater]

Holy shit

[tired marlin]

its a wonderful experience

[weary oriole]

oohh oh i se

[odd crater]

What if between snezhnaya and natlan there’s just a huge trench war going on

[fluid palm]

as lightie stated above, "omori" comes from "hikikomori", which is basically a type of social withdrawal, and the character/alter ego "omori" is supposed to represent that same withdrawal from society

[tired marlin]

pyro gunslinger out here sniping us

[grand atlas]

When the Raiden Shogun also doesn't have any mora

[odd crater]

natlan, fontaine and snezhnaya are the most advanced nations i think

Snezhnaya is obvious

[grand atlas]

I'm expecting the Dendro Archon to be homeless

[tired marlin]

i wouldnt even be surprised

[odd crater]

Natlan needs good technology to be able to sustain warfare

[fluid palm]

shhh just trying to explain it more in detail in a tldr form dont try to ruin my moment

[tired marlin]

oh shoot

wait

you saw nothing

i said nothing

[odd crater]

Too bad the game would lag to shit if they made the battles accurate and showed thousands of soldiers fighting

[queen furnace]

Every archon is broke confirmed

[weary oriole]

what is charm thingy in JP? omamori? hahah that's why I got confused.

[tired marlin]

your moment is preserved

[queen furnace]

How is the Tsaritsa broke? We’ll see

[fluid palm]

IT WAS A JOKE IM SORRY you didnt need to delete it

[tired marlin]

LMAOO NW

i love committing to the bit

i did it for the funny

[odd crater]

imagine how brutal trench warfare in genshin impact would be

Massive magic tanks

[fluid palm]

oh okay

[odd crater]

Magic snipers

[tired marlin]

shotguns

[odd crater]

Icethrowers

[tired marlin]

poisonous gas already exists so

[tired marlin]

would they be considered cyanide gas

[odd crater]

Traveler and childe are scaled to city level

[tired marlin]

or whatever that thing is called i forgot

[odd crater]

Imagine how brutal a full out war would be

[fluid palm]

ar-15s, not magic or anything
just ar-15s

[remote cloak]

They are scaled to the best ship in genshin

[woeful gyro]

pog

[weary oriole]

i wonder why Scaramouche did not spar with us.. maybe he's not interested.

[woeful gyro]

gime a trench gun character

[remote cloak]

I am stuck on inazuma quest ;_; pls someone help

[odd crater]

I think scaramouche knows he cant fight the traveler in combat

[tired marlin]

no. give us a character that fights with their bare fists

[fluid palm]

is it the "training" part?

[remote cloak]

I have been taking pictures of seirei all over

[odd crater]

Thats why every encounter with him has been an ambush or trap

[tired marlin]

i wanna throw hands

literally

[fluid palm]

ohhhh

[remote cloak]

Lmaoo no!!

[woeful gyro]

[weary oriole]

but Yae said Scaramouche powerful

[woeful gyro]

suffer

[fluid palm]

you have to take pictures of those same locations on the other pictures i think

[tired marlin]

lets settle this with our fists

[odd crater]

Childe is the most combat capable harbinger, scaramouche is the most powerful

[woeful gyro]

Scaramouche>Signora

that's all we know

[remote cloak]

Lmao idk I am a donkey who can't get the quest right

But I did go to those exact places

[woeful gyro]

sauce?

[fresh perch]

am i the only one who thinks each harbinger has a specialty-

[odd crater]

Scaramouche>Traveler in raw power

[remote cloak]

And it doesn't validate my quest :'l

[odd crater]

Traveler>Scaramouche in combat skill

[woeful gyro]

where do we hear that?

[odd crater]

Keep in mind the traveler has been fighting with swords for billions of years

[woeful gyro]

is there a clear text confirming this?

[remote cloak]

Scaramouche raw > traveler

[weary oriole]

....

Childe is useless

[tired marlin]

id prefer it cooked but sure

[weary oriole]

I heard

[weary oriole]

oi!

[remote cloak]

Excuse me ??

[fresh perch]

LMAO OUCH

[weary oriole]

" i heard "

[neat crescent]

lmao

[fluid palm]

i like to imagine 5* characters are characters that can beat traveler in raw 1v1 combat (they had the help of yae and everyone's visions to defeat ei, childe was holding back shhh), while 4* can't

[odd crater]

i mean he’s not wrong

[weary oriole]

at least Childe became playable.. LMAO

[neat crescent]

crying

[odd crater]

He got beaten by the traveler at 1/10th (probably less) of his true power

Failed to destroy liyue with a literal god on his side

[weary oriole]

yeah, I can totally see yoimiya beat me

[odd crater]

lmao no

[royal burrow]

hu Tao

[fresh perch]

i mean childe looks more on the combat fun side

[odd crater]

Traveler would beat the shit out of kokomi

[woeful gyro]

hmmmmm, who would win, an ageless traveler demigod who used to have wings and light magic or a fireworks girl

monkaS

[tired marlin]

jean canonically has her wind yeeting skill. if jean was out for murder everyone would suddenly have broken spines

[weary oriole]

Traveller vs Qiqi, go!!

[fluid palm]

hu tao would fucking decapitate traveler lol wtf you on

[fluid palm]

NAH BUT ID LOVE TO SEE QIQI BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF TRAVELER IT SOUNDS HILARIOUS

[royal burrow]

She’s a funeral director wtf are you on😭

[tired marlin]

barbara was supposed to be a 5 star so.

[odd crater]

her biggest feat is killing a treasure hoarder

[fluid palm]

she was??

[woeful gyro]

are you sure you are not confusing their in game power with their lore power? because in game childe can't even summon the narval he uses

[tired marlin]

she will kill you by preaching to you

[woeful gyro]

and in his bossfight he uses 5 of his ranged elemental bursts in a row

like its nothing

[weary oriole]

replace traveller with Hutao, more fun 😂

[woeful gyro]

Xiao can teleport among the entire liyue in a flash

etc

[tired marlin]

if 5 stars truly can beat us then beidou??

[fresh perch]

and thats when kokomi took her place

[woeful gyro]

playable characters are nerfed by like 90%

if not more

in most cases

[odd crater]

In lore traveler is the 3rd-ish strongest character that is playable

[weary oriole]

No in terms of e satisfaction

[odd crater]

Zhongli>Baal>Venti(questionsble)>Traveler

[woeful gyro]

Traveler probs only loses to Baal and Zhongli

[fresh perch]

but shell forget right after

[weary oriole]

Beidou is best

[woeful gyro]

Venti lost to signora

he is very weak lore wise

[weary oriole]

i feel envious with boss childe ver because he can shield, ride the bow, summon a whale, etc. there's so much he does as boss

[woeful gyro]

traveler beats him

[fluid palm]

nah i mean canonically, traveler in their current state is supposed to be weak
the extremely powerful things that they've done is with the help of the adepti/yae

[tired marlin]

mans wasnt even using his archon powers at that moment

[odd crater]

We won against baal by using the ambitions of other people and using that to reawaken some of our original powers

[tired marlin]

• its said signora likes to plan when she's faced with a tough opponent

[fluid palm]

signora caught venti and traveler off guard

[tired marlin]

caught off guard

[odd crater]

then its obvious she underestimated the traveler

[tired marlin]

his hair and his eyes werent glowing

[woeful gyro]

sure, but traveler still soloed dvalin, and actually put somewhat of a fight vs baal, and even managed to solo childe who is one of the most combat oriented harbringers

[tired marlin]

yeah, she considered us weak in liyue lol

[woeful gyro]

he even comments on our skills in his friendship dialogue

its just a testament to how op traveler was before losing the power

and how stupid op the goddes is

[weary oriole]

yeah. he thought mc+him can take on all harbingers

[tired marlin]

didnt venti help us??

[fluid palm]

as i said, childe was holding back, if you remember his story quest, he managed to annihilate multiple ruin guards in seconds

[woeful gyro]

and after that went limp

[odd crater]

og power traveler > zhongli and baal

[woeful gyro]

I think traveler can take that

[tired marlin]

if venti didnt catch us during the tornadoes genshin would've turned out way different

[fluid palm]

also yeah traveler didn't solo dvalin

[woeful gyro]

also did you see the huge lighting blade traveler attack baal with during the last quest?

that was pog

also can we talk about how both activations of electro that we saw (Traveler saving Thoma, Kazuha blocking Baal) is a super flash like speed

[fluid palm]

ooh yeah that was insane
forgot about it

they never managed to use the gaint lighting blade on anyone though

[odd crater]

Traveler > Childe

Traveler is so neglected in game

[woeful gyro]

but the closest thing we have to that is an Anemo Xiao dash?

so in cutscenes electro is portrayed as super speed

but in the game as super garbage

[odd crater]

He can literally summon tornadoes and make swords made of thunder

[woeful gyro]

[odd crater]

He is also able to use electro to move at insane speeds

[fluid palm]

keqing is super speed, too bad her scaling isn't super

[woeful gyro]

also traveler can use 3 elements at the same time rn

it's just a game limitation we need the statue

in cutscenes traveler doesnt care

[odd crater]

og power traveler with all elements is gonna be like deku compared to the mha verse

[tired marlin]

true

[odd crater]

but with an even bigger strength gap from regular vision wielders

[fluid palm]

im pretty sure that was only in the childe boss cutscene?

[woeful gyro]

'officer, she is 2000 years old, she is legal, please'

[tired marlin]

with the 7-or-i-dont-even-know-how-many-quirks-he-has-now

[odd crater]

that makes in canon

[fluid palm]

no i mean it was only seen then
makes me believe that it's a thing they can do from time to time only

[woeful gyro]

not really, cutscene=canon

No indication that it was a temporary thing

[odd crater]

kinda sad that we have to wait ~5 years to see traveler at this power level

Traveler using their maximum power and that move could probably vaporise an island or something

if not much more

I hope og power traveler will get a stat buff

[blazing raft]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/pg5yb7/youve_changed_youre_getting_weak/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Try this its an interesting take

[fluid palm]

now that i think about it, how strong is that god?
like traveler at opening cutscene strength could probably solo morax in his prime

this bitch seems to be about 5 times stronger

[odd crater]

The travelers were ambushed

So i think she’s a bit weaker than that

She is mortal

And traveler can ascend to godhood

[royal burrow]

The traveler can do that???

[odd crater]

Check his story

It says something along the lines of

”The sustainer is dying”

”The creator has yet to arrive, for you have not ascended to godhoodä

[fluid palm]

interesting

btw i love the idea that traveler is getting insanely fed up with everything

the thing that the sibling said in chapter 1 act 4 makes a lot more sense now

[queen furnace]

The entire fight against Ei in Euthymia is straight out of an anime

Especially when the traveller flashes to become Teppei and speak for him

[tired marlin]

the sibling knows we havent seen the truth of tevyat yet because they KNOW we started in mondstadt

[fluid palm]

"they managed to beat ei with the power of everyone's visions hopes and dreams!"

[tired marlin]

they were in the cutscene

mondstadt is a relatively peaceful and happy place, full of accepting people who make you feel like family

even their archon wants to be any other person

[fresh perch]

im sorry but i can never take venti seriously

[queen furnace]

No, she’s just unconscious

[tired marlin]

in liyue, the veil starts falling.
the city of contracts opposes city of freedom, but in those contracts too lie freedom. we witness the death of a deity, and experience ourselves being chased for no evidence

[fluid palm]

she's alive im pretty sure
i think it's mentioned somewhere that she returned the taken visions to everyone

[tired marlin]

we've been played as a pawn in the end when we meet up with tzhongli

in inazuma, the truth gets clearer

[fresh perch]

not gonna lie ei story quest was deeper than i expected

and i also liked the fact traveller refused to do some things

really changed my opinion her

[fluid palm]

zhongli is probably the most manipulative character that's currently playable, ppl constantly treat him as "baby uwu", but in reality, he's probably the most brutal ruler out of the three that we've met so far

[tired marlin]

we see firsthand the disregard most archons have towards mortal life, for why must they care when they are forever and their subjects temporary? the disregard results in multiple troubled and problems across the nation that the archon does not care about

before we went to inazuma our sibling left an impact on us, we want to hurry our journey so its reasonable the traveler feels emotional in inazuma.

not to mention, their homeworld was destroyed. who knows if it happened because of something similar to inazuma

[fresh perch]

even so i do think he has compasion and he cant let loose since he has to lead by example

thats why contracts r so strict in liyue

[tired marlin]

they appear as world quests to the player, but for the traveler? imagine what the traveler feels when a kid's parents die because of the war happening that the archon doesn't give a damn about

[fresh perch]

what i wanna know is why tf were the archons so damn jealous of khaenriah-

[tired marlin]

venti was just chilling

[fluid palm]

oh no doubt, just wanted to point out the way he uses people to get the result he wants

[tired marlin]

and we love him for that

[odd crater]

the humans were becoming so strong they could overthow celestia

[tired marlin]

he manipulated us out of necessity, i'd say. he's not all bad but most definitely not good either.

nonetheless, he still used us as a pawn in the archon quest

[fluid palm]

zhongli is definitely a "necessity" over "moral" type of guy

[queen furnace]

Zhongli was definitely more brutal pre-Guizhong

[tired marlin]

the ends justify the means guy

[tired marlin]

oh most definitely

hell he was known as the god of war back then lol

[odd crater]

i think natlan will be interesting

[tired marlin]

i wish we'd get a second venti story quest

[odd crater]

most likely some kind of war

large scale war

[tired marlin]

i feel like mond has so much untouched lore

[odd crater]

Webtoon is in mond

[tired marlin]

like, who were the inhabitants in midsummer island adventure??

[odd crater]

But otherwise mond is pretty irrelevant

[tired marlin]

how did they survive there? how did they get there in the first place?

[queen furnace]

Weren’t they Inazuman?

[tired marlin]

i highly doubt that lol

[weary oriole]

They were

[tired marlin]

there were mondstadt-like architecture, there were some inazumans there and possibly some mondstadt people too

[queen furnace]

Also a second Venti quest wouldn’t focus on the event islands, it would likely focus on Vanessa or Lawrence (or even Rostam and CWOF)

[odd crater]

its not mond architecture

its khaenri’an architecture

[tired marlin]

i just wonder how the hell venti cut off that peak and yeeted it to the middle of the ocean near inazuma

[queen furnace]

I would love to see Venti quest 2 where he talks about CWOF tbh, set after the current arc

[tired marlin]

dont you remember? the seelie in one of the islands led back to mondstadt

[grand atlas]

So was that kid from that world quest we were giving Crystal Marrow to was selling it to the Fatui so he could leave that island?

[weary oriole]

Maybe we'll see varka if there was a second quest