・genshin-spoilers

[terse tapir]

so much for being a being of pyro

[wild turtle]

[uneven turret]

i only remember genshin report saying she was an endgame character but nothing official from mihoyo

[terse tapir]

gr is a scam

[brittle silo]

It was in the same interview I believe. So they either
A. Pull some Kingdom Hearts shit
B. Keep her dead but still have her as a five star.
C. Bring her back
D. Something else

But then again, I could be mistaken

[main hemlock]

make her like qiqi

[brittle silo]

Doll Signora

[terse tapir]

considering the cwof is old af

[elfin cedar]

Theres no real reason for her to be alive to be a playable character. It's not like the story acknowledges it anyway.

[weary oriole]

Btw the playable raiden we have right now, is she Ei or is she Raiden Shogun

[terse tapir]

tbf anyone being playable is kinda non-canon

[brittle silo]

Exactly

[terse tapir]

i mean in the sense that they battle alongside us

bc in most quests we kind of battle alone

[elfin cedar]

Like I ran around as raiden doing the story so lol

[main hemlock]

i talk to kokomi as raiden

[elfin cedar]

Same

[brittle silo]

It literally would not make sense for any of the Fatui to be with us yet they are summonable
So basically
Death will not stop profit.

[weary oriole]

I doubt they’ll make signora playable if she’s truly dead. In honkai, himeko had a few amount of battlesuit but once she died mhy didn’t release any more battlesuit of her

[brittle silo]

Signora goes into my teapot so she can remain protected at all times

[terse tapir]

i wanted more cwof stuff in present day

[mortal gust]

kinda late answer but

• Ei gives Shogun orders, those orders and put through specific rules Shogun follows to pursue eternity
  - Those rules were put in place by Ei to counteract "erosion" (what zhongli talks about in his second story quest)
  - Those rules are incredibly hard to adjust, and iirc she has yet to really need to
• Ei can seemingly resume control of the puppet, as she said she would never imprison herself, and many citizens noticed her personality was shifted when interacting
• The body the player uses is the puppet and the Shogun is the one others would perceive, however Ei is fully conscious and knows what the Shogun knows

if genshin would load i can go find the quotes in the archive

[terse tapir]

the voicelines would prove that too

[main hemlock]

ohhh ok thanks for clearing it up

[terse tapir]

but most of the time it’s the raiden shogun

i’m still waiting for stuff re: the statue near tenshukaku tho, the hair looks like miko’s

[main hemlock]

i'll just listen to Ei's troubles voice line for the cuteness

[mortal gust]

is that the statue that had visions in it

[graceful adder]

so uh

is cheld gonna get promoted to the tenth harbinger now?

[mortal gust]

unknown

[graceful adder]

and the ninth harbinger will be promoted to signoras spot

[terse tapir]

yeah

[graceful adder]

that’s how I assume it’ll work

if we go by oldest = higher number

[terse tapir]

bc inazuma’s statue of the seven looks like the raiden shogun

but the statue with visions does not

[mortal gust]

reminds me of raiden makoto with her hair down

[strange oxide]

Is it just me or inazuma quest was rushed. It doesnt seem smooth. Nevertheless its still good tho especially from signora onwards

[terse tapir]

the bangs are different

[mortal gust]

what parts felt rushed?

[mortal gust]

oh true

[terse tapir]

makoto and ei look similar

[strange oxide]

The transition from watatsumi to narukami

[terse tapir]

plus no one else but the sisters and yae know that they rule inazuma jointly before

[copper torrent]

yo

[mortal gust]

tbh i didnt pay much attention to the resistance part of the quest, so you might be right there

[terse tapir]

well the other archons might know as well

[elfin cedar]

What ever happened to my boy teppei

[strange oxide]

Idk we couldve still went back to watatsumi to check on the aging victims and also pay respect to teppei

[grand atlas]

Yae's ears... maybe Sucrose is a fox too

[terse tapir]

i assume he’s dead

[elfin cedar]

Would be nice to have some kind of confirmation

Since they involved him quite a bit with the story

[terse tapir]

well our last convo with him is kind of the confirmation

[copper torrent]

true it signoras death would have been avoided if scaramouche said he got the gnosis

[strange oxide]

Kokomi was infront of his house at the end

[grand atlas]

I assumed the same tech Ei used to make her puppet was the same tech used to make Albedo

[terse tapir]

could be, considering she did the stuff after the cataclysm iirc

[fair river]

[terse tapir]

But idt celestia would like that

[mortal gust]

based off her About Morax voice lines, at least some gods would know

[strange oxide]

Actually there is a confirmation

[terse tapir]

ye, at least the 2 orig archons

[strange oxide]

In the game itself. We just didnt notice. But i can be seen from quests archive

[terse tapir]

wait

ei could have gone to that gathering as makoto

[strange oxide]

"Teppei's death ignites an unquechable flame of rage within you..."

[terse tapir]

since she did say she went as a kagemusha

[elfin cedar]

Aw :<

[grand atlas]

Traveler only knew Teppei for like a week

[terse tapir]

but yeah they could still know ig, no point in hiding the joint ruling from the archons maybe

[strange oxide]

They both won the Arcon War but Baal was considered as the Electro Archon right?

[terse tapir]

they rule jointly

[grand atlas]

I'm a bit disappointed we didn't get to talk to Kazuha once it was all over

[terse tapir]

but to the rest of inazuma as far as they know there’s only “baal”

only 1 shogun

[mortal gust]

look at venti's line

he knew she was a kagemusha

stands to reason the others would too

[copper torrent]

btw does anyone know where kazuhas friend sword is

[terse tapir]

guess that means the rest of inazuma doesnt know about it

[mortal gust]

like 95% sword/grace was cutscene only

[terse tapir]

and won’t

[mortal gust]

if i remember right regular inazuma citizens never knew a switch even happened

[terse tapir]

i

did say that before

[mortal gust]

oh mb i forgot

[terse tapir]

i just wasnt sure if the archons know

[grand atlas]

I'm gonna be completely honest here

[terse tapir]

i ignored their voicelines for raiden bc it could have been story spoilers

[grand atlas]

I don't think Dainslief will be playable

[terse tapir]

and they are

[grand atlas]

His constellation is the thing that made me think that, but after seeing Signora die now I'm starting to lean towards it more

[elfin cedar]

Oh raiden speaks to you as ei in the teapot. Nice.

[mortal gust]

oh for real? nice

[grand atlas]

If the character doesn't have a vision or isn't an archon, they very likely won't be playable

Shame

[terse tapir]

im still upset about how they killed off signora when they just revealed her as the cwof

also the only time we ever learn of her real name is when we fight her

[tulip sonnet]

i hope she’s still playable

but now that she’s dead, it gives me hope that she won’t be delayed til endgame

[grand atlas]

Himeko is dead

[tulip sonnet]

well yeah

but i mean we all expected signora to be endgame character

[mortal gust]

should spoil tag that

since nopt genshin

[tulip sonnet]

ow that they killed her off we can have her anytime they want

[strange oxide]

Do y'all think mhy successfully redeemed raidens character?

[shrewd reef]

if beidou doesn't work with raiden, just use eula lol

[hardy summit]

it was fine, but felt a bit rushed

[steep cradle]

😭

[brittle mica]

he will be but not for now

[elfin cedar]

I actually like Teppei too ;_;

[weary oriole]

Why is teppei kinda hot with white hair

[young cedar]

V-Vergil?

I feel bad sussing Teppei...

He's a good guy

Sorry Teppei

[young cedar]

Wait, should I use "was"?

[merry stirrup]

I have to say, I think the Inazuman 4* may be the best characters in the new area

The 5* are so emotionless

Well, for this update

Ayaka and Kazuha are amazing

[grand atlas]

What makes you so sure? I'm curious

[merry stirrup]

Baal and Kokomi are my least favorite characters

[hollow obsidian]

theres a chest in watatsumi island with 2 kairagi guarding it and i clipped through lol

[elfin cedar]

Classic Klee

[brittle mica]

he might be an endgame character

[grand atlas]

Might be

But I still have my doubts

[young cedar]

Isn't that confirmed already?

He's going to be playable

[grand atlas]

No

[wild turtle]

Fish locations for the catch

[shadow saddle]

Yo wtf we’ve been calling raiden Baal this whole time but she’s actually beelzebub

[wild turtle]

[grand atlas]

Blame Zhongli

[young cedar]

Yes he is, it's announced in a stream before Genshin released

[twilit wagon]

I never got the chance to check character stats during fighting ei for the 2nd time we get some kind of stat buffs I almost doing double my normal damage

[shadow saddle]

Also wtf the dendro archon is a chick?

[grand atlas]

Can you send me the clip?

[shadow saddle]

How many dudes did they say there were again?

[young cedar]

That's the problem

I can't find it anymore

[grand atlas]

Lol

Ok

[young cedar]

It got privated?

Just search it on genshin wiki you'll find where they said it's official

[devout nebula]

Yeah there is a damage buff or they made Ei's defense much lower

I'm honestly worrried about Scaramouche if he dies because he is a robot

Like it can get really heartbreaking because of that

[hasty summit]

does anyone know what happens if you don't click the button?

[terse tapir]

no, the dendro archon is male

[hollow obsidian]

i dont think aything ha ppens

[elfin cedar]

Bless 🙏

[devout nebula]

I assume revive and redo

[wild turtle]

You need the purple bait and the worm bait

ALOT OF THE PURPLE

[elfin cedar]

Oh God I don't even know what that means yet

[wild turtle]

[devout nebula]

It's the last bait

[wild turtle]

The bottom 2

[devout nebula]

Fly thing

[wild turtle]

You need the purple for almost every fish for the catch fishes

[wary escarp]

so....||since scaramouhce is a Raiden prototype, does that mean he has Archon-level power?||

[wild turtle]

Probably lower

[wary escarp]

||Yae did also say he's stronger than Signora tho||

||wonder if hes stronger than Childe; idk if childe is stronger than Signora?||

[wild turtle]

He probably on the same power level with us

[devout nebula]

He was proof of concept, so probably not

[terse tapir]

noir i think you can just not spoiler since this is a channel for spoilers lol

[wary escarp]

ok

[wild turtle]

[devout nebula]

Childe is the strongest in terms of martial ability

[terse tapir]

I mean, if Yae meant that harbinger number = power level

[wary escarp]

hopefully Signora still be playable one day even tho she ded

[devout nebula]

Otherwise he is actually pretty average in the Harbringers

[terse tapir]

[wary escarp]

whats Childes number?

[terse tapir]

11

[wild turtle]

11

[wary escarp]

would be interesting if their numbers are based on power level

wouldnt that make childe the weakest

[wild turtle]

Don't think so

[elfin cedar]

I thought their numbers didn't determine strength, but when they joined the harbingers?

[terse tapir]

nah there’s 12th right?

[wild turtle]

Yee

[wary escarp]

wait i thought there was only 11

[wild turtle]

12

[terse tapir]

when did ei make the vessels again? after cataclysm?

[shadow saddle]

Yeah

[terse tapir]

that’s when makoto died right

[terse tapir]

if it’s date idk why signora is after scara

[devout nebula]

I mean it makes no sense because Dottore does not look powerful at all

[wild turtle]

Yeah

[wary escarp]

wym she's after him didnt she die?

or is there more in raidens story quest? i just finished the archon quest

[terse tapir]

i mean if join date = harbinger number

[wary escarp]

oh lol

[terse tapir]

bc scara is 6

signora is 8

iirc

[devout nebula]

Go left to right

[wary escarp]

i think its power

[shadow saddle]

Scara is a puppet created who knows how long ago

So like

He probably joined way before

[terse tapir]

if it’s after cataclysm isnt cataclysm like 500 years ago ish

[shadow saddle]

Ye

[wary escarp]

Scaramouche has unsealed archon power within him even if it may not be equivalent to Raidens power he still definitely has to be one of the strongest

[devout nebula]

Yes

[terse tapir]

so scara about as old as the dendro archon

[wild turtle]

She probably appear in Semeru like a nothing happened

[shadow saddle]

Scara could probably hit about 70 percent of raiden kd juice

[wary escarp]

also since he has Raiden power unsealed within him that means his element must be electro right?

[devout nebula]

I won't be surprised if like his boss fight is him using the Gnosis or something

[wild turtle]

Yes

[wary escarp]

nah im pretty sure Scaramouche is taking over now as the main harbinger taking gnosis

[devout nebula]

Yup

[terse tapir]

tbh idk about scara stuff bc we dk to what extent ei made the prototype

like is it just a husk, or does it have elem affinity

or maybe i didnt pay attention that much

[devout nebula]

It was a husk

[wary escarp]

wait since he now has Raidens gnosis if he uses it he might be as strong as her

[shadow saddle]

Knosis doesn’t actually have power

[wary escarp]

unless he gave it straight to Tsaritsa

[wild turtle]

But he wont use it

[shadow saddle]

Or much of it

It connects the archon to celestial

[terse tapir]

gnosis doesnt necessarily mean most power i think

[devout nebula]

Yae said it was a proof of concept, so think of it like Pinocchio

[shadow saddle]

So they can kinda do godly shit

[terse tapir]

zl is fine with dealing with azhdaha in his current form

[wary escarp]

so he can do godly shit now tho right

[wanton wing]

gnosis is like a status of power imo

[devout nebula]

Venti is weird

[terse tapir]

^

[elfin cedar]

This

[devout nebula]

Like he should be fine then

[terse tapir]

i meant the gnosis msg but ye i do agree venti is weird

[wary escarp]

so a gnosis is just a glorified crown

[terse tapir]

[shadow saddle]

Yae said raiden wasn’t really affected by losing it

[wary escarp]

wtf does tsaritsa want them for then

[wanton wing]

its like just a representation

[devout nebula]

But then again he was just a wind spirit before

[elfin cedar]

I think all it does is say "celestia connection"

[terse tapir]

could really just be a symbol of archonhood

[wanton wing]

ya

[shadow saddle]

Tsarita probably found out getting then all leads to celestial

[devout nebula]

So the Gnosis powerup might depend

[shadow saddle]

Or let’s you rule celestia

[wanton wing]

tsarita prob want connections to celestia idk

[terse tapir]

there hasnt really been anything much about it

[shadow saddle]

Some dumb shit like that I bet

[wary escarp]

my god tho, the story of this archon quest was so fucking good

[shadow saddle]

Yes

I thought it was gonna be four parts tho

[terse tapir]

but i do think losing a vision is horrible

[shadow saddle]

But oh well

[wary escarp]

but of course there's still the pretentious people that will say its bad and cliche

[wanton wing]

genshin lore is really interesting tbh

[wary escarp]

[terse tapir]

basically yeets most of who you are away

[devout nebula]

Part 4 might be a Dainsleif centric one again

[wary escarp]

would make sense

are we getting the next island in 2.2 or is 2.2 filler?

[devout nebula]

Apparently the We will be Reunited quest is considered Act 4 of Liyue story

[terse tapir]

dain suddenly in inazuma

jk

[terse tapir]

next island yes

also last iirc

[devout nebula]

Yeah should be

[shadow saddle]

Also yae and the fox chick who the masked girl talked about are different right?

[devout nebula]

Max Statue level is 9 rn

[wary escarp]

im expecting the abyss plot to continue in last part of the archon quest

[terse tapir]

dk about the dragonspine “counterpart” for inazuma

[devout nebula]

Last island should cover it

[terse tapir]

there’s no info aside from sus leaks after all

[terse tapir]

ye

i forgot about their connection tho

but diff people yes

[devout nebula]

Yae is like the descendant or something of Kitsune Saiguu

[wary escarp]

so the 2nd Raiden we saw in Raidens teaser was Makoto right?

[terse tapir]

yes

[devout nebula]

Yeah

[wary escarp]

it all makes sense now

[devout nebula]

Actually that then leads to when did Yae and Ei meet

[terse tapir]

statue with visions looking like yae still doesnt make sense to me

[wary escarp]

why do people think it looks like Yae

i dont see it

[twin sentinel]

what happen to sara after the quest? is she dead ? they didnt really run down on it

[wary escarp]

it looks like Raiden to me

[terse tapir]

hair

[devout nebula]

She's fine

[terse tapir]

it’s different to the statues of the seven

[devout nebula]

She got knocked out

[wary escarp]

didnt she just get beat up and knocked out by Signora

i dont think Signora killed her

[devout nebula]

Yeah she's fine

[twin sentinel]

oh thanks

[devout nebula]

Her lines talk about post Act 3

I hope she gets a dedicated quest

[thorny crest]

• there was a peace talk in the trailer which might be coming in kokomi story quest

[devout nebula]

Kujou clan story post Act3 looks really interesting

[wary escarp]

Mihoyo stopped giving 4 stars story quests

[young cedar]

But yae's hair has 2 sides going outward(?) But the statue one's going inward

[wary escarp]

wait also where the fuck did beidou go

[devout nebula]

Maybe if the other member is 5 star?

[young cedar]

I think that's the statue of Baal

[wary escarp]

she wasnt here in 2.1

[young cedar]

Not Beel lmao

[thorny crest]

baal looks different too

[devout nebula]

They are twins though

[thorny crest]

baal is literally a copy of beel

same design

[terse tapir]

i dont have the pic but the side “fringes” look like yae’s

[young cedar]

The same exact copy?

[devout nebula]

Yeah

[terse tapir]

also the bangs isnt almost hime cut

[wary escarp]

i think you guys are just looking too deep into it

[devout nebula]

Identical twins

[wary escarp]

Signora boss music btw

do we think signora will never be playable since ded?

[devout nebula]

Except Makoto seemed to prefer Polearms while Ei is more of a sword user

[devout nebula]

I won't go that far

[thorny crest]

wht im more concerned of is

[devout nebula]

But it's unlikely

[thorny crest]

how the fuck did a mask survive a musou no hitotachi

[devout nebula]

Like Signora might come back in a puppet made by Dottore somehow

But I doubt we will see her soon

[terse tapir]

idk, but with dottore being into fucked up shit

[devout nebula]

Wasn't it her Head piece?

[terse tapir]

and mhy being mhy we rly dont know what might happen for signora

[fathom gulch]

Inazuma was kinda confusing

[thorny crest]

technically her mask

[young cedar]

I think that's a souvenir you get after defeating the final monster of the chapter

[terse tapir]

it’s her harbinger mask

[devout nebula]

Ah fair

[fathom gulch]

Yeah they just killed of signora and just told us to read the artifact lore

[young cedar]

Like the one osial had

[devout nebula]

Well she got decapitated so

[devout nebula]

I won't be surprised if Venti Act 2 covers it actually

We still haven't confronted Venti about what happened yet

[terse tapir]

inb4 venti act 2 is what makes venti ?????? to MC

[young cedar]

Was he there when Rostam died?

[terse tapir]

frankly idt he cares

[devout nebula]

I mean

[fathom gulch]

if mihoyo remembers signora lol

i hope they just did not kill her off and forget her later

[thorny crest]

no

[fathom gulch]

and tell us to read the artifacts for some stuff

[thorny crest]

he was asleep until durin attacked

which was a bit later

[terse tapir]

mhy just went “yeah lmao the cwof became a harbinger”

“here’s her real name”

[young cedar]

I don't think so, you would still remember the person you killed if you're a murderer

[terse tapir]

“now she’s dead”

[devout nebula]

I mean

[fathom gulch]

i was referring to mihoyo lol. mihoyo might forget her and just tell us to read artifacts and not expanding on her lol

[devout nebula]

I doubt Signora's death will be just ignored now

[fathom gulch]

i hope they remember her

[young cedar]

Yes I know, that's just a way of saying that they won't abandon her like that

[devout nebula]

She's the first big death in the game

[thorny crest]

its too big of a deal for the tsaritsa to not make a move

[fathom gulch]

the third part was hella fast

[thorny crest]

unless she didnt actually die and the higher ups know this

[terse tapir]

i feel the tsaritsa would be upset

if it’s permanent permanent death

[remote cloak]

If my fishl c6 tick 10k dot with 25k initial dammage OZ, is baal worth something as a subdps

[devout nebula]

I won't be surprised if Tsarita actually makes a statement

[fathom gulch]

pretty sure she's one of the most effective ones.

[remote cloak]

Or is she just good looking

[terse tapir]

yeah like

[devout nebula]

Or Sumeru gets really hard to get inside

[fathom gulch]

she effectively took both gnosis lol

[terse tapir]

she wont be going everywhere in teyvat if she wasnt?

[fathom gulch]

if mihoyo forgets her i'm gonna be confused

[terse tapir]

basically kind of the leader in fatui ops

scara did explicitly say he just followed orders

[remote cloak]

Idk where I read that she was the tsaritsas favorite

[devout nebula]

I mean we don't know her relationship status right now with the Harbringers

[terse tapir]

childe didnt know about the plan

[fathom gulch]

she does not get along with childe i guess

[remote cloak]

Yes she doesn't

[devout nebula]

We just know that she still has enough love to have Childe loyal to her

[remote cloak]

And seems like scaramouch doesn't like her much either

[devout nebula]

Scara is weird

[fathom gulch]

lots of things are weird here

[remote cloak]

And just for that I love thr Tsaritsa

[terse tapir]

idt scara is still “loyal” to the fatui after what’s happened

[fathom gulch]

like i hate how they just make yae tell us what's happening

[devout nebula]

Like he's clearly not chosen by the Tsarita

The Fatui chose him

[sage flax]

is the new weekly boss not out yet or smth??? why is everyone's baal low leveled

[terse tapir]

bc it’s day 2

[devout nebula]

People aren't looking for it

There is enough mats in a world to level 80

[sage flax]

doesnt it come w the archon quest?

[terse tapir]

unless you spent a shit ton of fragile resin for her boss mats

[thorny crest]

not every1 would be willing to use their fragile rsein to get their baal to 80 in day 1

[terse tapir]

it does, you have to finish act 3

[sage flax]

i meant sgnora

ohh ok

[devout nebula]

I went crazy and got 90 already

[terse tapir]

yeah

act 3

[thorny crest]

i got jean

and baal

[sage flax]

tfw stopped doing archon quest when i got out of ritou

[remote cloak]

I did that the day I got childe

He was worth all my resin

[thorny crest]

im building jean first since i think she'll be worth more in my teams than baal

[terse tapir]

you can ask a friend or ppl in coop to host signora boss

[devout nebula]

Yeah

[terse tapir]

Not everyone is going to do and finish act 3 this week

[devout nebula]

Signora boss honestly was pretty easy

It's also the most fun to co op imo

[burnt storm]

is it just me or I misheard Guuji Yae into something else

[remote cloak]

Is there no way to redo the fight ?

[terse tapir]

as long as you have the AR requirement for signora you should be good

[remote cloak]

I didn't record...

[terse tapir]

if you meant story ver, no

[idle arch]

if you're having trouble remember food exists

[terse tapir]

idts

[idle arch]

time to pop those atk/def/elemental def foodstuffs

[remote cloak]

[devout nebula]

The Ei fight isn't replayable

[idle arch]

shame

[devout nebula]

Signora one is just go back

[remote cloak]

It was kinda epic

Wish I could do it again

With the background music and all

I had goosebumps

[terse tapir]

ask ei to spar

[devout nebula]

I mean I would love that

[terse tapir]

i want it to be a thing too

i didnt die this time and im proud

[remote cloak]

Same thanks to zhongli

[terse tapir]

in act 2 i thought you had to like

kill your party

for the story to proceed

[dark gorge]

booba

[dark gorge]

damn so the sword is actually the real raiden

[weary oriole]

How would you rate Raiden story quest?

Her story is quite funny

[dark gorge]

good enough

[digital glen]

quite fun but not that interesting

[weary oriole]

The light novel review about the long title sold me. Hahahha

[uneven turret]

its cool how scara dialogue is different depending on whether you met him before or not

[devout nebula]

I feel like his dialogue for when you haven't met him yet is really lacking

[uneven turret]

yeah but at least they didn't just make it the exact same either way lol

[manic elbow]

Holy fk signora just fkin died

[terse tapir]

oh shit wait

it really was just 11 harbingers??????

[weary oriole]

harem

anyone can solve the seirai quest puzzle?

[uneven turret]

in jp he says "i'm so happy to meet you" and its kind of cute

[weary oriole]

the one in the basement

[manic elbow]

No wonder we’re not getting signora as a playable character lol

[uneven turret]

typical harem anime

[weary oriole]

emphasis on mediocre

[terse tapir]

do you guys have a link for the scara dialogue if you met him alr

[uneven turret]

both versions are on honey

[sage flax]

do the fstui go up a rank or do the first get replaced or sumt🤨 🤨

[iron dock]

she's the best tsundere yo

[manic elbow]

Wait theres different dialogue if you havent met scara yet? O_o

[uneven turret]

ya

[iron dock]

10/10

[iron dock]

kind sad they didnt talk more about morax not having mora tho. wish she made comments about morax

[final oracle]

[weary oriole]

https://youtu.be/YfFwH6T9v-M

[terse tapir]

thank you!!

[uneven turret]

i play in jp so it might be slightly different in eng but in jp if you met him before he's like "you made it this far? well done.. it's funny, even though we finally met/were reunited again after such a long time, it seems like you want to take my life"

[terse tapir]

i rly wish they would rerun the story for unreconciled stars now

i want to meet fischl

[weary oriole]

yeah. i was expecting it but no

[uneven turret]

if you didn't meet him before he drags childe and signora lmao

he's like "i didn't realize you already met my two most unreliable colleagues"

[terse tapir]

but ig rerunning unreconciled stars wont make sense now

[weary oriole]

first time meeting (JP)
https://youtu.be/TGwq-Orwq40

[devout nebula]

Scara first intro is really important

[weary oriole]

i live for Scara Ah-la-la

[terse tapir]

same

[tight flame]

so scara is basically ei #3

[uneven turret]

i love how he says "i'm so happy to meet you" in jp when you haven't met him yet, it sounds so cute for some reason 😭

[uneven turret]

no, pay attention to yae dialogue at the end lol

[devout nebula]

Scara is Ei Proto

Well not really

[carmine parrot]

is the ei battle buggef

[tight flame]

yes proto that’s what i meant

[uneven turret]

he was a proof of concept ye

never was supposed to look or be like ei

[devout nebula]

Actually that makes him interesting

[shrewd reef]

Hey guys look

[tight flame]

ye i found it super interesting

[devout nebula]

I hope we can get at least a whole quest about that

[shrewd reef]

H e

[tight flame]

i was also shook when yae was like oH i handed over that gnosis

[weary oriole]

i wonder why Ei created a male design for the concept

[uneven turret]

yeah this update made me like scara even more now, like before i just thought he was cute but now he's actually an interesting character and feels dangerous

[devout nebula]

The leaks made it look really bad

[weary oriole]

kinda sucks that ||signora is dead|| i kinda want her ||to step on me||

[devout nebula]

But honestly Yae made the right call

[uneven turret]

yae said there was nothing else she could do

[tight flame]

i got goosebumps from the signora scene

[uneven turret]

she doesn't think she'd be able to win against him in a fight

[devout nebula]

Ei did not want to be associated with Celestia anymore

[tight flame]

yeah scara’s the strongest harbinger we’ve met so far i think

[uneven turret]

honestly everything from the scara introduction onwards was really good

[weary oriole]

people were weirded out why scara fans love him
he's an interesting person
i like him for the very beginning

[uneven turret]

yeah he def is according to yae anyways

[devout nebula]

I'm actually intrigued now

Like his false sky line was meh to me

[uneven turret]

there were a lot of people who were like "he must be the weakest harbinger bc of how short he is" and all kinds of nonsense lmao

[devout nebula]

But now that we've seen him evil in one area it's better now

[weary oriole]

tbh, i wanted to see the gnosis first

[uneven turret]

i'm guessing we'lll see it in scara's possession soon enough lol

i doubt he's going to give it to tsaritsa

[weary oriole]

now we have no idea what chess piece is electro's gnosis

3 archon powers in and we can already defeat a harbinger easily
i wonder what can we do with 4 archon powers

[devout nebula]

I'm thinking it's the Bishop

[uneven turret]

i have a very strong feeling he has no real loyalty to the fatui

[tight flame]

wait why not?

[devout nebula]

Yeah same

[tight flame]

just curious

[uneven turret]

bc he could have prevented signora's death and did not

[devout nebula]

He just kinda got picked up by the Fatui

When he was a husk

[weary oriole]

lol really?
he's short and people were joking about it.. that's all I heard and fandango
also many ship him with mona

[uneven turret]

also in his artifact lore it says he joined the fatui basically out of boredom, he has no real loyalty towards them and doesn't care about tsaritsa's goal

[devout nebula]

So honestly he's only loyal in the sense that they are the reason he is more than that

[tight flame]

scaramouche world domination arc incoming

[devout nebula]

I'm expecting Scara to be the focal Harbinger for Sumeru

[uneven turret]

that makes him joining us at some point more likely though, since he just does whatever tf he wants. if he decides helping traveler is more fun or interesting, i don't think he'll have any issues leaving them

[weary oriole]

i would like to meet the Scara prior becoming Fatui

[devout nebula]

Problem really is his actions

[tight flame]

tbh i’m just happy kazoo got past the death flag when he deflected ei’s strike with the double vision power thing i was like YEAHHH

[devout nebula]

His actions are more actively malicious

[devout nebula]

I'm surprised how many people thought he will die

[terse tapir]

yeah we have 0 idea what his plans are now that he seems to have taken the gnosis for himself

[devout nebula]

His story unlocks kinda spoiled it

[tight flame]

I WAS TERRIFIED HE’S MY FAV CHARACTER

[uneven turret]

i mean scara is already designated playable in the game files so i guess they don't consider anything he's done beyond redemption yet

[tidal dirge]

couldn’t he just like… use the gnosis on himself to go archon mode

[manic elbow]

Why did signora have to die?

[devout nebula]

Don't get me wrong I love my truly evil playable characters

[idle arch]

M A Y B E

[terse tapir]

we have no idea what a gnosis should even be

[idle arch]

archon scaramouche boss fight letsgoooooooooooooooo

[terse tapir]

and what it could do to scara

[tight flame]

obstacle to eternity.

[devout nebula]

But he's going to have to do a lot to be lorewise in good terms with Traveler

[uneven turret]

no the puppets cant use the gnosis i'm pretty sure, i thought yae said thats why she had it, bc ei's vessel couldn't use it

[granite geyser]

scaramouche bossfight when

[terse tapir]

childe isnt even on good terms with MC and he’s playable

[idle arch]

signora died because she lost the duel

[devout nebula]

Duel to the death. Blame Traveller

[idle arch]

you lose a duel you get musou no hitotachid

[granite geyser]

they’re on good terms bc story quest

[weary oriole]

scara redemption is possible (but it's not something I'm interested in)
as said, he was tinkered by Dottore. it is possible to tinker him back
(that's what I understood)

[devout nebula]

Childe is actually neutral now

Teucer really humanizes him

[idle arch]

he got tinkered as far as unlocking his power

[terse tapir]

??? i had the vibe that MC just felt forced to babysit his bro and had no choice

[idle arch]

nothing indicates his personality was changed

[uneven turret]

nothing indicates it wasn't either

being experimented on is generally accepted to fuck a person up tho

[idle arch]

I mean being created only to be thrown away afterwards fucks up a person too

[uneven turret]

for sure lol

[devout nebula]

Yeah but the simple fact is Traveler won't pain someone who has siblings because they are pretty similar

[terse tapir]

but only if you can count scara as a person tbh

[idle arch]

he's a sentient being

[shrewd reef]

No lightning can get between the Traveller and fishing

[idle arch]

person enough tbh

[weary oriole]

he was supposed to be discarded but Ei took pity and let him free

[tidal dirge]

he was just the prototype to prove ei could do it, not that he couldn’t use the gnosis

[devout nebula]

Actually the thing was Scara wasn't supposed to be "alive"

[uneven turret]

i count him a person, he has consciousness and is sentient and according to yae does have the body of human male

[devout nebula]

So he might hate the Fatui for making him alive

[idle arch]

yeah though he's still meant to be a body double for ba'al and his poewr is based off of hers

[terse tapir]

even ei doesnt think of the raiden shogun as a person

[idle arch]

nwa scaramouche was wandering the realm before the fatui found him

[devout nebula]

Exactly

[weary oriole]

isn't his creation like Albedo?
meaning Ei, an Archon, has same ability as Gold

[idle arch]

anyways there is enough setup for scaramouche using the gnosis if they want to do it IMO

[terse tapir]

we dk if what ei did is alchemy

[tired marlin]

more like gold has the same ability as ei since they used alchemy

[tidal dirge]

i don’t think it was alchemy

[uneven turret]

scara is not like literally a puppet/robot, he is a human that was artificially created by a god. but they're meant to be empty vessels with no will of their own, hence "puppet"

[devout nebula]

So in that sense Scara has good reason to hate the Fatui

[tidal dirge]

she’s just a god

😭

[idle arch]

its implied to be more mechanical in nature yeah

[tidal dirge]

she does what she wants

[weary oriole]

im not sure yet if Ei did an alchemy

[uneven turret]

we don't know exactly how she created him but yae says his body is that of a human male so

[devout nebula]

Ei definitely did not make the bodies

[tidal dirge]

did yae not literally say sacra was a puppet

[terse tapir]

prototype

[tidal dirge]

made from technology lost in time

[devout nebula]

Otherwise she wouldn't have the issues that happened at the start of her character quest

[terse tapir]

proof of concept

[tired marlin]

oh i meant they as in gold bc im not sure what gender they are hdhdhsh

[devout nebula]

Someone else made it for her

[tidal dirge]

didn’t play her character yet rip

[tired marlin]

he’s part of the prototype series can we use him as a weapon

[idle arch]

the issues that happened is because Ei made raiden to be tamperproof

even by herself

[tired marlin]

just. scaramouche i choose you!

[weary oriole]

Prototype balladeer

[weary oriole]

ohh i see
i don't think "they" is a neutral pronoun for a singular person.
i'm not an English native speaker so it's confusing to me.

[devout nebula]

Actually one of Scara's costumes could be his "base" appearance

[tired marlin]

taht new bow is cracked

byakuya :0

[wanton wing]

they used as a neutral pronoun for someone’s gender lol

[weary oriole]

Who is gold

[wanton wing]

its for ppl who dont like being labeled as a specific gender like him/her

[devout nebula]

Maker of Durin

[weary oriole]

since when?

[tired marlin]

neither am i so i usually default to he but im just afraid some people may get mad shhsh honestly im confused with the usage of they too sometimes

[tired marlin]

i dont think its confirmed the dude created durin? just that the dude corrupted it

[wanton wing]

since forever

[devout nebula]

Pretty sure it was

Idk been awhile since I read Dragonspine lore

[lime linden]

||YAE BETTER COUNT HER MF DAYS FOR THAT FUCKING ANTI SHOGUN TEST IM NOT DOING YHR SECOND PHADE FUCK YHAT BITCH||

[tired marlin]

it was a pain but i loved it

[tidal dirge]

i don’t think you have to do the second part

[wanton wing]

tfw the training was harder than the actual fight

[tidal dirge]

at least i didn’t

😭

[soft nymph]

wait for that osu! thing in genshin will we be using z and x just like osu or our mouse buttons LOL

[tired marlin]

the second part ws just killing enemies tho right?

[terse tapir]

likely just mouse

[wanton wing]

wasnt there already an osu thing in windblume

[terse tapir]

with the thing spawning electro atks too

[lime linden]

wait is was? nvm i’m gonna do it 🥰

[tired marlin]

kazuha’s gonna gift us an instrument, interesting..

[soft nymph]

thats so tuff bruh im gonna suck

[weary oriole]

then don't mind me asking
for instance, I don't know your gender
and I refer to you as "they"
what would be the correct subject-verb agreement:

1. they cook food, or
2. they cooks food

[terse tapir]

cook

[wanton wing]

cook

[weary oriole]

oh ok

[tired marlin]

ah yeah, my trick was just to hold off from fighting until i saw the middle thing rise and attack me, then i started attacking

[tidal dirge]

wouldn’t it be cooked

[tired marlin]

i just kept my eyes on the thing and spammed buttond till they died

[terse tapir]

“they” is accepted in formal writing im p sure

[wanton wing]

it should be cooked too

[terse tapir]

eh we’ll just assume they meant present tense

[idle arch]

they is also generally used for any reference to an unknown gender

[terse tapir]

like a fact

[tidal dirge]

true true

[wanton wing]

they cooked food for us
they have cooked food for us
they cook food for us

like that

[wanton wing]

ya this was my original point

[blazing raft]

Before the LGBT claimed it in English its factually correct to use they for someone unknown

[runic hamlet]

Wait

[weary oriole]

Asian languages like JP use neutral pronouns most often so.. yay us I guess

[runic hamlet]

Is Sara dead

[blazing raft]

So if someone online refers to you as they don't get upset

[uneven turret]

yes but she also said that he has the body of a human male. like he's not made of wood or metal, that's what i mean. some special technology or magic or something was used to create him

[blazing raft]

Im leaning towards not

[weary oriole]

i don't mind being referred to as he/she/they online.. it's understandable since they don't know my gender. why would people be upset about that?

[uneven turret]

a bio human can be turned into a "puppet" too if you brainwash them enough, calling someone a puppet is more about the lack of free will

[tired marlin]

same here, i always get mixed up genders because of it xd

[weary oriole]

and some people interchange the use of he/she.. like me. 😭

[uneven turret]

i only get upset if i tell someone my gender and they on purpose call me the wrong thing just to bug me, but if its an honest mistake i don't care at all

[naive meteor]

ei was on some khemia shit or something probably, i do not doubt she could just straight up make a will-less body

[runic hamlet]

Yeah same idk whyd they kill her if she was dead

[uneven turret]

yep exactly, thats what i think too

[blazing raft]

You would not imagine the amount of times that happened. But dw i wasnt specifying anyone

[uneven turret]

i'm a girl but i get ppl assuming im a guy a lot lol

its not a big deal though

[weary oriole]

yeah cause everyone in internet are males right

[tired marlin]

did her sister die in the cataclysm? i forgot

[runic hamlet]

I think so

[naive meteor]

i think it's implied she died during the abyss wars that happened afterwards like the kitsune saiguu, but it mightve been during the cataclysm proper

[tired marlin]

so she died fighting in it like the previous dendro archon?

[dark gorge]

man

[uneven turret]

yeah traveler says "khaenriah...." when yae is telling the story

about ei's sister dying

[torpid python]

|| eis twin sister is the og archon right? ||

[naive meteor]

yes

[runic hamlet]

Is ei stronger than Makoto

[uneven turret]

unknown

[weary oriole]

is it.. would be strange to think that Ei created Shogun as placeholder for Makoto

[tired marlin]

ei lost her sister, morax lost a yaksha and the millelith, and barbatos 2v1’d a dragon. the KoF during that era carried mondstadt honestly

[terse tapir]

idt that was her reason for making the shogun

[weary oriole]

nah.. both are Archons.
i mean both are OG

[uneven turret]

both acted as archon yeah

[thorny crest]

ei dindt lose just her sister

[terse tapir]

remember she yeeted her consciousness in the sword so she can meditate and all

[uneven turret]

twins who pretended to be one person and ruled jointly

[thorny crest]

she lost saiguu too

[tired marlin]

i wonder what happened to arundolyn since he was in grief, did he just die or somn

[blazing raft]

Nonono, its always some form of " girls play video games?!"

[torpid python]

is spoiler tags needed in here?

[terse tapir]

she lost everyone in her teaser yeah

[tired marlin]

oh dear i forgot about her

[terse tapir]

no

[thorny crest]

no

[naive meteor]

i guess it also depends on what you consider the 'real' archon
ei and baal both were shogun and acted as archon, but only one of them probably had the gnosis

[weary oriole]

when did she lost Makoto again? during 500 years ago right?

[tired marlin]

yeah

[uneven turret]

lmao its just dumb bc genshin is really popular with girls

[terse tapir]

presumably during or after the cataclysm 500 years ago yes

[dark gorge]

damn

[thorny crest]

signora boobs

[uneven turret]

if he kept walking forward he'd faceplant right into her boobs

[tired marlin]

what happens when venti goes to sleep? did he wake up, choose violence on a dragon and go back to sleep again 500 years ago or did he do Something in khaenri’ah to make them target mondo hmm

[tired marlin]

shes so tall

[terse tapir]

there’s no ‘real’ archon for inazuma they ruled jointly

[weary oriole]

right right! they didn't know how much girls spend on this game 😂

[south bay]

[terse tapir]

but the nation knows only 1 archon

[uneven turret]

aether is just short, he is like 5'4 according to dimbreath data

[terse tapir]

it could be 1 gnosis for both of them

[weary oriole]

I do!

[tired marlin]

would celestia will it?

[terse tapir]

yeah?

[tidal dirge]

yeah both ei and her sister both went under baal

nobody knew

[tired marlin]

since there’s only 7 heavenly seats or whatever they were called

[terse tapir]

neither venti nor zhongli cared

[naive meteor]

we've only ever seen a gnosis take one form, and it was referred to in the story as a single object

if i had to guess i'd say makoto had it

[uneven turret]

i like the theory that he met traveler in their dreams when he was asleep

[tidal dirge]

makoto probably did have it since she was the main archon

and ei was just her shadow

[tired marlin]

parallel to kokomi and gorou maybe? one the brains, the other the brawn?

[terse tapir]

they

ruled

jointly

[tired marlin]

wait thats actually a lovely theory i like it

[uneven turret]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/mw1xtd/how_venti_first_met_traveler/

[terse tapir]

they basically act as the same person

[uneven turret]

i read it here i really like it lol

[tired marlin]

thank you!!

[strange oxide]

How did the fatui convince shogun to enact the visiom hunt decree again?

[terse tapir]

i assume only yae and the rest of the archons know about inazuma having 2 gods ruling the nation jointly

[naive meteor]

puppet shogun is big dumb and only cares about eternity, ei never bothered to really correct it and was like "yeah sure"

[tidal dirge]

ei didn’t care

literally

😭

[tired marlin]

ei was more or less given false info by kujou clan head right?

[terse tapir]

she knows it’s false iirc

[strange oxide]

So they just told her how visions destroy eternity blah blah?

[idle arch]

she's aware of everything regardless

[tidal dirge]

puppet was, ei knew

she just didn’t care

[tired marlin]

oo

[weary oriole]

she said she knows but don't care

[naive meteor]

the puppet was manipulated but ei knew, ei just didn't care

[terse tapir]

it wasnt a threat to eternity, why would she care?

[strange oxide]

Ei knows

[idle arch]

she didn't interfere meant that she gave her tacit approval

[strange oxide]

Didnt she mildly agree to the vision hunt

[tired marlin]

man i thought she was a tad nicer than that hdhdhd

[terse tapir]

She literally kind of tells you off that you disturbed her meditating stuff

just to tell her the fatui deceived the shogun

[idle arch]

yeah she thinks that people chasing their ambitions makes them die early

[tidal dirge]

she just didn’t see a con for it so it was like whatever

[uneven turret]

i mean she is, in her own way. ei thinks she is protecting people by getting rid of their ambition, she didn't do what she did out of maliciousness

[tidal dirge]

ambitions kill people yadayada

[terse tapir]

which she already knew about

[tidal dirge]

also can we talk about kokomi being USELESS

[tired marlin]

a bit sad for sara, she says “utter disregard for human life!” meanwhile she’s loyal to an archon who.. yeah

[tidal dirge]

like the army did absolutely nothing

[tired marlin]

they were dumb too

[uneven turret]

yeah she's like "humans only live for like 100 years, thats so short. and their ambitions make them do risky things that might make them die even sooner than that, therefore if i get rid of their ambitions, they can live longer"

[tired marlin]

i got a bit attached to teppei but he had it coming honestly

[uneven turret]

people think i'm so evil for having this opinion lol

[tired marlin]

good intentions not so good actions

[uneven turret]

yeah exactly

[tired marlin]

my man was getting old as hell and he STILL used it

[strange oxide]

So was it Ei or Shogun who tried to kill us im Act 2

[naive meteor]

kokomi, political and strategic mastermind, was like "hm wow we sure got a lot of money from people who want the shogunate to fall, wonder who it could be? maybe the political organization trying to infiltrate countries and usurp their power? certainly not"

[terse tapir]

both

[uneven turret]

even if its to protect someone taking away someones free will is never a good thing, ei is literally like a yandere that locks the people she loves away in a cage to "protect them"

[tired marlin]

also, were the purple fumes in the room where scara tricked us archon residue? because he said the anger powered it much like collei’s anger did

[terse tapir]

ei in the plane

[idle arch]

yeah I called the fatui the moment we learneda bout the supplies lol

[terse tapir]

shogun in front of the statue

[strange oxide]

So its also both for signora?

[terse tapir]

signora died to the raiden shogun

[naive meteor]

the delusion factory used crystal marrow to make them, which is basically condensed dead god juice, so honestly it might very well be

[uneven turret]

honestly signora death scene was pretty awesome, i know a lot of people are pissed about it but i thought it was cool, so was the slow-mo hazy walking out of there after

[tired marlin]

honestly more surprised that venti and ei seems to be on decent terms when their ideals clash a lot (and how their method of living are different too, venti living in crowds loving humans and ei living in basically a castle and disregarding humans)

[terse tapir]

they’re not pissed about the scene they’re pissed about why and how it happened

[tired marlin]

OH DAMN I FORGOT CRYSTAL MARROW was basicslly orobashi’s bones

[terse tapir]

mhy literally just revealed she’s the cwof

[idle arch]

yep lol

[terse tapir]

became a harbinger

revealed her real name only in the fight

[tired marlin]

that’s deffo archon residue then

[terse tapir]

and then she just dies?

[idle arch]

theres also the tataragami residue on the ground

[naive meteor]

honestly i was expecting signora's pyro to be what killed her, not ei

[tired marlin]

that would’ve been sickkk

[terse tapir]

ppl prolly dont care bc she isnt outright said to be cwof

[naive meteor]

sort of like a last-resort powerup "im taking you down with me" deal

[terse tapir]

nor do they know about the cwof outside of artifact lore

[uneven turret]

i mean venti and zhongi ideals clash too but they still get along, i guess even if they don't agree with venti he's generally pretty nice and isn't threatening or malicious towards the others so they just sort of roll their eyes and put up with it. technically venti was the only one who didn't earn his archon seat via killing but bc someone else gave it up to him and thought he would be better (andrius)

[tired marlin]

i wonder if we’ll get some info about signora in sumeru academia then

[naive meteor]

venti is also the weakest archon so the others could probably body him, i'd be nice too if all my coworkers could beat the shit out of me

[silent maple]

I know this is peak copium energy but i don't think she actually died

[uneven turret]

i don't know if venti was originally the weakest though, but he is now

[tired marlin]

now that you mention andrius i dan see why no one touched mondstadt because there is basically two archons there

[terse tapir]

im just sad that the cwof is set up to be this amazing being who doesnt need a vision to manipulate pyro bc she is a being of pyro and then this? lol

[mortal cairn]

Raiden isn't taking dmg after this point, what do I do?

[weary oriole]

Zhongli practically learned that people can live without their Archon through Venti.

[mortal cairn]

ive lost all my lives n she won't take any dmg

[tired marlin]

nre ftw

[strange oxide]

Did you get to the yae cutscene

[mortal cairn]

mhmm

I passed the Yae cutscene

[weary oriole]

oh no :skull>

[uneven turret]

yep exactly, andrius did not want to rule bc he knew he didn't love humans or give a shit about them so he decided venti should do it, but he still stays there and helps venti out and would def help defend mondstadt as one of the 4 winds

[mortal cairn]

should I just die n restart?

[strange oxide]

Hmmmm she should be squishy by that already

[terse tapir]

same honestly i hope the tsaritsa does smth

[naive meteor]

i mean i already assumed she was dead, so just the fact she was alive and someone we knew was pretty cool to me

[tired marlin]

it’s interesting how he seems to know the secrets of the other archons tho

[uneven turret]

yeah there are tons of lore characters we'll probably never get to meet in game

[weary oriole]

he's the most travelled Archon I bet

[tired marlin]

i wonder if God of the Woods and venti had a relationship to each other? viridsecent venerer had a clsoe relationship to gotw it seems and its an anemo set

[silent maple]

I don't even think its gonna be the tsarista. I think she just kinda turned herself into one of those flame moths at the very last second and left (barely) alive

[terse tapir]

andrius is not an archon and what’s left of him is just his spirit now

[tired marlin]

oh definitely

[naive meteor]

tbh i'd be more scared of xiao than andrius

[tired marlin]

venessa’s era was a couple hundred years ago, so i wonder if murata is the original pyro archon or the current pyro archon

[uneven turret]

the lore for those new piano wings or whatever says that venti got drunk and poured booze on zhongli's head once lmaooo

[weary oriole]

the Archons are funny

[tired marlin]

imagine being this literal god of war and then some depressed drunk god pours booze on you

i love zhongli and venti’s relationship

[weary oriole]

the new one is a spoiled hikikomori 😂

[naive meteor]

it's been said that only venti and zhongli are part of the original 7, so all the rest have been replaced at some point (which is a little weird w inazuma in mind, but i guess checks out if you cast mokoto as the 'original' archon)

[tired marlin]

TRUEEE

[uneven turret]

i love zhongli's calm reaction lmao

[tired marlin]

yeye, i’m just wondering since zhongli said that to us like 1600 years after vennessa’s era happened, so im pretty curious

[terse tapir]

makes you think where venti and zl were during the cataclysm

when the old dendro archon and makoto died during/after the event

[uneven turret]

venti was with dvalin fighting durin for at least part of it

[tired marlin]

beautiful dragon meaning dvalin?

[weary oriole]

Both Zhongli and Venti have a pet dragon they took care of
Meanwhile Ei has a pet Kitsune that tooks care of her

[tired marlin]

does this mean they were in mond?

[uneven turret]

zhongli we don't know bc apparently he's under contract with someone to not say

[naive meteor]

committing kaenri'ah genocide

[terse tapir]

yeah it makes zl sus

[tired marlin]

zl was ordering the millelith to go into the chasm im p sure

[tired marlin]

however.. that doesn’t clear him

[uneven turret]

its been pissing me off how traveler hasn't asked venti about it yet

[terse tapir]

bc venti is nowhere to be found

[naive meteor]

lowkey i think it'd be such a cop out if neither venti nor zl were involved w kaenri'ah

[terse tapir]

prolly yeeting away from responsibility like he does usually

[uneven turret]

she asks zhongli who says "sry im under contract cant say" and then doesn't bother asking venti

[uneven turret]

we dont know that, just hang out at angel's share for a few days and he'll show up

[tired marlin]

my mans woke up from the crying of his people, almost got bodied by an unconcious dragon and then finally managed to kill that dragon using his dragon who’s now a taxi

[weary oriole]

i wonder why Barbatos followers don't offer wine to their God
what do they offer

[terse tapir]

i doubt zl wasnt involved tho, otherwise what would the contract be for? he just knows what happened after someone told him or smth?

[tired marlin]

i feel like vn and traveler have a different relationship then say, zl and traveler. they feel closer yknow and vn likes to avoid things

[terse tapir]

they have an ideal image of their archon after all

[uneven turret]

plus we DID see him after that during the summer island event? i know its just an event but seeing him and not being able to ask him bugged me lol

[tired marlin]

i hope zl was, but i really hope vn wasnt

[terse tapir]

venti isnt actively in mondstadt

zhongli is busy with work

[uneven turret]

yeah i agree with this, venti feels the most like an actual friend out of all the archons so far

[terse tapir]

zl would be easier to find

[weary oriole]

Rosaria's the best nun so far I guess

[terse tapir]

compared to a bard that likes going everywhere

[uneven turret]

i mean just look how long traveler held a grudge about what happened to venti, even signora is like "wtf you're still mad about that?"

[weary oriole]

holy fuck the archon quest

[tired marlin]

maybe traveler respects his privacy? if you call the voicelines canonical then it seems like venti HAS told traveler he isn’t a fan of celestia that much (yknow the food and water and apples thing)

[terse tapir]

im p sure they tried to find venti

[tired marlin]

so traveler doesnt bring it up

[terse tapir]

so traveler respects ventis privacy but zl’s not?

[weary oriole]

Zhongli can be found in wangsheng
or in tea parties
or in exclusive ships

[tired marlin]

and we love him for it :D

[uneven turret]

traveler and venti are closer than traveler and zl are

[weary oriole]

CHILLS

[uneven turret]

even my friends who are huge zhongli simps admit to this

[tired marlin]

traveler looked more like thy were gonna kill signora then childe when they were in liyue lmao

[weary oriole]

yeah holy shit my mouth dropped at that part

[uneven turret]

as soon as she saw signora she instantly went into a fighting stance lmaoooo

[terse tapir]

there’s like only 3 ppl in mondstadt who knows venti is barbatos, and rosaria frankly doesnt care about nun stuff tbh

[uneven turret]

rosaria doesnt even know how to say barbatos properly lmaooo

she's so funny

[weary oriole]

yeah.. she became the best nun for drinking as hard as her god 😂

[terse tapir]

just there to do secret stuff

[tired marlin]

venti feels more like a friend because his character is very humane. he gets drunk, he drinks, he lives among the people, he doesn’t have a home, he needs to pay for his tab and gets ridiculed by barbara and diluc, he plays songs of his friends for the people of mondstadt, and even he shows his sadness to us once in a while

[tired marlin]

if zl wasnt there i’m pretty sure they would’ve thrown hands

[uneven turret]

yeah i think its bc venti has been living as/posing as a human for a long time, whereas zl just recently started trying

[terse tapir]

zl isnt recent

[weary oriole]

both liyue and inazuma citizens wanted us both arrested 😂

[uneven turret]

venti says in one of this voicelines that zl doesn't understand the human heart yet

[tired marlin]

yall think kaeya figured out venti is barbatos from the midsummer event?

[uneven turret]

i'm conflicted on it. i'm going to say no but i think its possible

[terse tapir]

i’d think even before that, but the event confirmed it for him

[tired marlin]

im very curious what kaeya’s motivation for going to the islands were, because his pirate heritage thing is deffo a lie

and why the hell did diluc just accept it

[uneven turret]

i think he didn't know before but is probably now suspicious about it at least

[terse tapir]

p sure “zhongli” is recent, but the whole trying to blend with liyueans isnt new

[tired marlin]

and also because he’s been helping humans all along, he helped the gunnhildrs and in return they prayed to him, he helped the boy and the boy basically taught him love for humanity

[terse tapir]

idt he does that a lot considering rite of descnesion existed

[uneven turret]

i think it is new though? venti sounds very surprised when traveler tells him he is living his life as a normal human now

[terse tapir]

he has lore re: hating seafood about being as a human iirc

or maybe it was still archon morax

[uneven turret]

"Huh? He's just a normal man by the name of Zhongli now? That must be quite the change for that old block-head."

[terse tapir]

remember it’s not his first time to act as human

[tired marlin]

best thing about ei’s line about venti is that it implies venti drinks more than what even a god could usually drink

[uneven turret]

LOL

[terse tapir]

could have gone way less often when the rite of descension started becoming a thing

[uneven turret]

venti calls him grandpa in cn and jp which i find hilarious

[tired marlin]

could rex incognito be considered fanfiction

[terse tapir]

zhongli frankly doesnt care about the liyue history ppl make

he finds it amusing and almost never corrects anybody

no one would believe him if he ever claimed anything anyway

like about havria

[tired marlin]

it seems Lost Prayed to the Sacred Winds have existed since decarabian’s era, so i wonder who created it?

[tired marlin]

true

[terse tapir]

they just chalked it up to zhongli knowing so much shit, that’s why he’s there in the ship in the first place

[uneven turret]

venti understand humans, zhongli is trying to understand humans, ei is a hikikomori who has no desire to understand humans

[tired marlin]

also, found this in LPttSW’s description: “Children of the Anemo Archon, heed these words: From the winds we have come, and with the winds we shall go. Never, ever grieve for me. ‘Tis but my flesh and bones which rest in the soil: My soul has become one with the thousand winds.”
flesh and bones???

did venti have a different vessel prior to this current form?

[terse tapir]

he had no other vessel afaik

spirit > his dead bard friend

[uneven turret]

not that we know of, lore says that he was the wind spirit and then took the form of his friend

yeah

[tired marlin]

imagine someone painting a picture of venti 700 years ago and passing it on to their descendants and then this bard guy shows up exactly like the picture drawn

[terse tapir]

no one even bats an eye when venti looks like the statue lmao

[tired marlin]

i wonder what the thousand winds actually are since there was a whole temple for it (and that weird Time and Wind island)

[tired marlin]

mondstadtians couldnt give less of a damn they know they have freedom and they relish in it

[uneven turret]

whenever people say venti has to be weak bc of how short or skinny he is i find it so dumb, like he could make himself look like a 8ft tall buff guy if he wanted to, its just a vessel lol

[terse tapir]

could be another god

missing or smth else

venti is weak prolly bc he doesnt exercise his powers

[tired marlin]

best thing about living in the city of freedom is you could completely ignore someone and they can’t do anything about it

[thorny crest]

what if that bard guy is just a big fan of barbatos he decided to cosplay him

[tired marlin]

barbatos is hatsune miku

[uneven turret]

honestly of all the nations so far i'd rather live in mondstadt. liyue and inazuma are beautiful but they're the kind of places i'd want to visit more than live there

[tired marlin]

yeye

since faith powers the archons, i wonder if different types of faith powers differently? since someone can just be a dictator but (almost) none of them are

[dark gorge]

Makoto

[tired marlin]

agreed!

i’d get along well with the people in mondstadt because there you don’t even have to stand out

[tired marlin]

maybe innate faith? faith not forced upon?

[uneven turret]

makoto means "truth" in jp and ei means "shadow"

which is interesting

[tired marlin]

im guessing if we ever ask ei about khaenri’ah she isn’t gonna say anything lol

[uneven turret]

ei can also mean "eternity"

[tired marlin]

eien or something right?

[dark gorge]

Sumeru ikimasu

[tired marlin]

would venti have witnessed the rise of the newest dendro archon? did he ascend during the cataclysm or after? or is it when venti sleeps he quite literally becomes part of the thousand winds

[dark gorge]

wait the sumeru archon is a waifu

[uneven turret]

永 = ei = eternity, immortality

[tired marlin]

so he sees all

i wonder why its Lesser Lord thoguh

maybe they have deities they worship, not just the dendro archon?

[uneven turret]

kusanali is not their archon yeah

[dark gorge]

not enough knowledge

[tidal dirge]

i thought it wasn’t their archon

[uneven turret]

in jp they call her the god of flowers

she's not

dendro archon is a guy

[tidal dirge]

just someone who rises up

[tired marlin]

her as in the kusanali person?

[uneven turret]

yep

[tidal dirge]

i see the dendro archon as someone who just seeks knowledge 😭😭 not someone who wants to rule

but idk

[tired marlin]

god of the woods, god of flowers… hmm

[tired marlin]

honestly i agree

[uneven turret]

sounds like people of sumeru worship the god of flowers (female) and not the dendro archon (male) for whatever reason

i guess we'll see

[thorny crest]

i mean

peopl arent restricted to worship one deity

[tired marlin]

it seems like the guy doesnt know how to handle being an archon, or he does and chooses to keep sumeru “foolish” so they dont end up like khaenri’ah

[thorny crest]

some people in liyue worship havria

[tired marlin]

some barbatos because of the winds when sailing

[thorny crest]

in mondstadt people worship the four wings and abarbatos

[tidal dirge]

inb4 the dendro archon is really just the headmaster of the biggest school in sumeru

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