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wild spire
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I tried to say that I watched the scene on english with jp audio

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And she called her brother sora

weary oriole
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hmmm interesting

wild spire
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Which I'm guessing is aether's japanese name

weary oriole
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so no translation error

weary oriole
wild spire
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But in any case, if they wanted to leave that ambiguous, they could just make them say "brother/sister"

weary oriole
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yes, it is sora/hotaru

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aether/lumine sounds better

wild spire
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So yeah, it feels like it's done on purpose

weary oriole
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yea that was definitely intentional

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I don't know what the names are in Cn or KR

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i doubt theyd miss that

wild spire
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On a few hours I'll play the quest with spanish text

weary oriole
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Or bad coding

wild spire
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I highly doubt it will change but I will notify anyway

weary oriole
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and not our nickname

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which does show up in subtitles

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yea i know but why give the option to name the character in the first place then

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thats my question

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because it is a game

wild spire
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Watch lumine go full monika in a few months

weary oriole
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we use that nickname for coop mainly

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eh

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seems weird

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That is true actually

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But still

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it is a gameplay thing tho

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not really lore

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I mean its still weird dont you think

wild spire
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Still, they could just say brother or sister without having to specify a name

weary oriole
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I mean I'm glad she says the actual name

weary oriole
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like everything else was lore related

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they fucked up the 4th wall

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it was not a 4th wall break but almost, and I don't think on purpose

wild spire
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Can I ask what do they specifically say about the gods watching khaenri'ah fall?

weary oriole
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I do think it's on purpose but we don't know why yet maybe

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they just wanted to say "Aether/Lumine is your canon name, in the chapters"

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right

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and they did it badly

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put faith in mihoyo

wild spire
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And this also means abyss mages are vision holders and regular hilichurls just normal people?

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That's why dains asked us that question on the first quest?

weary oriole
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idk

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holy new quest X_HuPray

weary oriole
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abyss mages use magic throught the branch they hold

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only humans, so far, are shown to be able to use vision

queen furnace
weary oriole
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ayo dainsleif do be kinda cool tho

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and half humans I guess

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it's more interesting what are herrschers in this world, and that relationship with destiny

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could the archons just be puppets

wild spire
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I once saw that kaeya has very similar animations to a cryo abyss mage

weary oriole
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Based

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Lumine is the Hersher of Time

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ZA WARUDO

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this quest really made me want Dain in my team Y_HuKek

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same

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Same lol

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dains is cringe but based

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😳

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"UHMM gOds BAAd"

queen furnace
weary oriole
weary oriole
queen furnace
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Gods do be kinda sus thoW_HuFlushed

weary oriole
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"I don't want to go to church, mom"

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Venti sus

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dain reminds me of gyuu lmao

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cringesleif

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Venti sus, Zhongli based W_HmmTao I see the pattern MHY

weary oriole
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gods are demons in this world X_HuTaoShrug

wild spire
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Weren't barbatos and morax names of demons?

weary oriole
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Then who was xiao

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yes

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well chinese name of archons means demon gods, thats why

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Oh that’s what you meant

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or devils

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more appropriate

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What symbol did they use for demon in this case

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the names of the Archons come from demonology

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which btw, was an absolute shitpost from 16th century more or less

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it's ultimate christian shitpost Y_HuKek

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The Lesser Key of Solomon, also known as Clavicula Salomonis Regis or Lemegeton, is an anonymous grimoire on demonology. It was compiled in the mid-17th century, mostly from materials a couple of centuries older. It is divided into five books—the Ars Goetia, Ars Theurgia-Goetia, Ars Paulina, Ars Almadel, and Ars Notoria.

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people had too much time on their hands

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Oh you’re right actually

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I remember baal

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every Archon has a demon name, and Paimon as well

fallen arch
weary oriole
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The demons' names (given below) are taken from the Ars Goetia, which differs in terms of number and ranking from the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum of Johann Weyer. As a result of multiple translations, there are multiple spellings for some of the names, explained in more detail in the articles concerning them. The sole demon which appears in Pseudomo...

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anyway how it might correlate with the story W_HmmTao Im thinking about archons being this opposed force of "destiny" whatever it is, but still puppeteered by it, then Tsaritsa creates Fatui to fight all of that mess cause she has no choice, while old Khanerians themselves try to destroy it

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paimon is there... paimon = archon?

shrewd reef
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are we going full drakengard on the main plot?

weary oriole
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So when Barbara is worshipping barbatos she’s really worshiping the devil

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so Rosaria being vampire makes complete sense now

wild spire
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I've been thinking

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Doesn't it make sense that the archon that is stealing the other gnosis is precisely the one they call the goddess of love?

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If the archons are... not as good as they're supposed to be

weary oriole
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giving them back humanity annytfOh

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Love comes in many forms

floral tree
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yikes that quest was stressful

cunning mortar
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i loved it

weary oriole
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it was ok

cunning mortar
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we finally know something more about khaenriah

weary oriole
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Depends on how good you were on bubble crash

cunning mortar
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lol

floral tree
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i was good at the bubbe crash

weary oriole
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Bael is a demon described in demonological grimoires such as the Lesser Key of Solomon and the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum (where he is the first spirit mentioned) and also described in the Dictionnaire Infernal. He is described as a hoarsely-voiced king with the power to make men invisible and ruling over sixty-six legions of demons.

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so reading a bit on Baal, invisibility seems like a common power

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it may be present in her kit when she is released

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If we can’t see Baal then how can we lewd her

jaunty yoke
weary oriole
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that is a powerful statement from the writers

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now they are not allowed plot holes, by definition

weary oriole
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they created a Chekov gun and aimed it at themselves

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that is ballsy af

modest osprey
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Dain really moved to abyss with core Y_HuTaoDerp

jaunty yoke
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wait, so traveller really is 500+ years old?

modest osprey
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Ofcourse

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I mean was there a doubt at all? X_ThinkTao

jaunty yoke
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nah, its just funny that people don't let them drink alcohol and shit Y_HuKek

weary oriole
modest osprey
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They might be older than even Zhongli

empty tide
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it's not like they can just say "Bruh, I'm older than your ancestors"

dreamy narwhal
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They are at least over 2k years old

empty tide
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we don't know about 2k

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definitely older than 500

dreamy narwhal
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They traveled a lot of worlds together before Teyvat for sure

empty tide
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yeah but for how long, we don't really know that

dreamy narwhal
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At least that is my guess

lucid folio
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that got dark

delicate horizon
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the fact that "dain" is basically dainsleifs universal nickname is so endearing to me for some reason

jaunty yoke
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okay, this is kinda scary tbh

lucid folio
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there's blood on the rocks with a dead person. rip unnamed treasure hoarder

empty tide
delicate horizon
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f to the great thief

empty tide
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keeps the soil fertilised

jaunty yoke
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this mean Ruin Guards are mini Colossal Titans? Y_HuMonkaSCross

dreamy narwhal
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But oh well

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Dain is stuck in the abyss now

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Probs captured

empty tide
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I'd say anyone who can ||do the Force Choke|| is gonna be fine

modest osprey
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I doubt he's captured

empty tide
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he may be surrounded, but that only means he can attack all sides

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he'll figure something out, and hopefully won't cause Osial 2.0 to succeed

dreamy narwhal
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At least they prevented the order for now

lucid folio
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flying tentacle monster

empty tide
dreamy narwhal
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Why i have a feeling the Tsaritsa is gonna ally with the Order anyways

empty tide
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could've tossed it to us first

dreamy narwhal
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They both want Celestia to die

empty tide
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they won't ally

lucid folio
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Tsarista and Abyss Oeder want different sides of the same goal so probably not

empty tide
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similar objective, but different means and lots of clashing stuff in the finer details

lucid folio
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not to mention i think they hate eachother

empty tide
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the Abyss is still an enemy to all

delicate horizon
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tsaritsa doesnt like celestia only, she doesnt seem to have that much beef with the other seven archons

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the abyss order on the other hand, wants them all dead

dreamy narwhal
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I better have some interrogation shit with Raiden after clearing Inazuma

delicate horizon
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on a side note, the abyss heralds cn voice X_PogTao

lucid folio
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Tsarista wants to have a world without Celestia being behind the scenes and all that and destroying nations and stuff, whereas Abyss Order doesn't want Celestia solely due to their own reasons and none of the nations' and stuff

empty tide
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that, and they're being fueled by a corruptive power that has brainwashing effects

dreamy narwhal
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The Traveler once they manage to reach Raiden:

dreamy narwhal
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Because at least that's what i would do

weary oriole
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“Why did you close your borders for a year”

delicate horizon
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its just like dain said, the abyss order may have good reason and the right to be angry at the abyss, but they shouldnt be bringing destruction to the innocents who never had anything to do with it

weary oriole
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destiny, celestia X_HuThink fake sky

modest osprey
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Traveler demands an explanation from Archons

empty tide
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I hope Genshin's Raiden Mei wouldn't be a character that's as badly written as Honkai Mei

empty tide
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she's just a simp

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"KIANAAAAA"

dreamy narwhal
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People are always trying to find excuses for what Mei did to Kiana in Chap 17

weary oriole
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so many things can be resolved if we had one good convo with any of the archons W_WheezeTao

midnight trellis
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ikimasssu

weary oriole
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wow, the disrespect

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shitting on my ship

dreamy narwhal
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"But Kiana i want to save you"
Beats her up

weary oriole
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based kiana

empty tide
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spends over a dozen chapters not really achieving anything
beats up Kiana
and then uhhh

weary oriole
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pls no bully my poorly written lesbian simp

drifting forge
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hmmm why does paimon know the part of the travelers being blocked by the unknown god "really well"

weary oriole
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Paimon teaches all arts, philosophies and sciences, and secret things; he can reveal all mysteries of the Earth, wind, and water, what the mind is, and where it is, and everything the conjurer wants to know. He gives good familiars, dignities and confirms them, and binds men to the conjurer's will.
If Paimon is cited alone, and offering or sacrifice must be done, and he will accept it; then two kings called Beball (Bebal or Labal) and Abalam (Abalim) will go to him together with other spirits, often twenty-five legions; but these other spirits do not always come unless the conjurer calls upon them.

Paimon is depicted as a man with an effeminate face, wearing a precious crown, and riding a dromedary. Before him often goes a host of demons with the shape of men, playing trumpets, cymbals, and any other sort of musical instrument.```
plain cedar
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Lol

empty tide
weary oriole
north jewel
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If tsaritsa is a God of love, why did the trailer said that "she is a God with no love left for her people", is it because it's related to the event 500 years ago?

weary oriole
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who tf screeshots their own posts

plain cedar
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I have power to see future now

weary oriole
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I kneel, time traveler

plain zodiac
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this made me laugh

digital osprey
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The quest was pretty lit ngl but wat bout paimon huh, wheres the answers for her

weary oriole
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barbennet?

digital osprey
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was testing out the special camera

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for the first time

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Theres something funny bout dains giving that look on a spinning hutao

floral tree
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nice pictures

little snow
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Current mood is me regretting that I picked Aether, not Lumine

digital osprey
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i mean, im not regretting it

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bc at least this makes sense

little snow
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JP Abyss!Aether hurts way more than Abyss!Lumine TBH

digital osprey
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this make sense as lumine

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since on the trailer itself it was showing lumine running away from the destruction

little snow
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Abyss!Lumine is cold and eerie, sure, but Abyss!Aether is that kind of antagonist who is clearly soft, but also firm in his ideals.

digital osprey
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instead of aether

rapid flare
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Aether as a big bad brother
https://youtu.be/jf9Z2gYnvYM

Genshin Impact has a new archon quest called “We Will Be Reunited.” It’s a main quest where you’ll battle the Abyss Herald several times, and it also significantly advances the story forward. Just remember that you should first reach Adventure Rank 36. Likewise, you should’ve completed “The Meaning of Lupical” (which made the Andrius boss fight ...

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little snow
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Like, with separated siblings theme and pain, Abyss!Aether just hits harder.

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Because he clearly wants to be back with her, but at the same time, there's this thing he has to do and he has no plans to turn back.

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So it just honestly stings a lot more with Aether as the antagonist.

wild spire
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my boy zach got more lines than just wind blade X_HuCry

empty tide
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finally

digital osprey
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Long Ganyu

weary oriole
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just wonder what happened to twin and why are they left as the royal to abyss W_HmmTao and therefore can't reunite with us

queen furnace
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They probably know the truth about this world and believe the abyss is in the right

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Either we prove them wrong or we join them

lucid folio
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Nobody is even in the right in Teyvat ☹️

weary oriole
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Lumine is

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I stan Lumine

lucid folio
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i mean lumine believes what she's doing is correct

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and part of what she wants is good

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however it's not entirely morally correct and stuff

latent topaz
weary oriole
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Lumine corrects morals

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this statue is very creepy.

drifting forge
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The quest ended before we got to destroy the statue?????

empty tide
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don't worry, statue is destroyed offscreen

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probably

icy flax
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man the quest was dumb

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you could yeet the abyss herald off and instantly kill him

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because there's an opening to the void in one of the arena's borders

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it made me laugh more than whatever the story arc was trying to set up LMAOOO

queen furnace
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Every good RPG has a funny way to kill a boss

icy flax
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paimon was like “that battle was so tough man”

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but she literally just witnessed me throw the boss off into the void below skywars style

weary oriole
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Do i have to spoiler anything i say?

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Use this i mean || ||

icy flax
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in this channel specifically no

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because people who view this channel understand it's literally in the name

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in other channels you'll probably be punished for even mentioning it spoilered or not

drifting forge
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having lumine be the traveler makes ||dain kinda gay tbh|| lol

weary oriole
weary oriole
zenith halo
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when you put on your yaoi lenses anything can be kinda ||gay||

weary oriole
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So

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I was hoping the one who made the sky rains fire

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Was alice

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But meh i guess Y_HuTaoDerp

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So twins are legalZ_HuTaoWOW

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What?

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500 year oldQiqiAnnoyed

icy flax
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tru

simple breach
icy flax
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it was funny that the very first millisecond mihoyo confirmed that the twins were 500+ shippers were like

simple breach
icy flax
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SEE I TOLD YOU SO

simple breach
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fk

icy flax
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🤔

weary oriole
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This scared me

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I thought we would get a jumpscare

icy flax
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yeah same

weary oriole
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I kept asking for blood in genshin like manga

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But we got something worse

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Which isn't bad

simple breach
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there will be

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like that

drifting forge
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he's just pretending guys

simple breach
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in the future updates i think

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where venti dies

drifting forge
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if you look at his face he's actuallyy blinking lol

icy flax
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yeah he stopped breathing for the funnies

drifting forge
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don't think venti will die tbh

simple breach
vagrant epoch
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Anyway what happened to Khaenri'ah isn't like an honkai?
I didn't play the game but I've read something

drifting forge
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isn't celestia protecting teyvat from houkai or something

simple breach
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zhongli dying is possible too

drifting forge
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or was that just a theory? i don't know anmore lol

icy flax
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it would be a mindfuck if the gods were protecting teyvat from honkai

weary oriole
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Yeah but death without blood

vagrant epoch
weary oriole
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Is kindaX_HuThink

drifting forge
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idk where is houkai from even

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didn't play honkai impact so Shrug

vagrant epoch
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Archon can't die

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I mean not completely

simple breach
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the previous dendro archon died

vagrant epoch
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"When an archon, or any god, dies, their power flows out of them and into the surrounding area. When a god chooses to pass on, they are able to control the flow of power and use it to the benefit of the land.[7] However, if they are killed, the surge of power can easily overwhelm those in the vicinity; for example, the power released upon Havria's death salinized her adherents.[8] Gods cannot be completely destroyed — even if a god's physical form is destroyed, its will and power live on. The remnants and the wrath of the defeated god will remain in the world, waiting for opportunities to cause chaos.[9]"

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Someway he still lives I guess

simple breach
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they just pass power

icy flax
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didn't the god of salt die because her own people killed her

simple breach
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like all for one

vagrant epoch
icy flax
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o right

vagrant epoch
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Havria was a minor goddess

blazing pond
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Not celestia

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Its called tree of something

weary oriole
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wdym gods and archons aren't the same W_HmmTao

vagrant epoch
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Is Honkai like the spiral in guren lagann anyway? Lol

weary oriole
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archons are just high class gods, their powers are from same source and sometimes strength X_HuTaoShrug

vagrant epoch
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  • Wasn't Gold the one who turned people to monsters?
weary oriole
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well at least we know why abyss and Tsaritsa are fighting against Celestia if they send honkai like beasts in future

blazing pond
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but celestia is protecting teyvat from honkai by ensuring that no civilisation becomes advanced enough

weary oriole
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protected in chains X_HuHegao

weary oriole
blazing pond
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I mean that’s honkai plot too

weary oriole
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is it tho

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don't trust the powers that be

vagrant epoch
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And Dainsleif is a sword user right?

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I mean, to be the "twilight sword"

weary oriole
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he has the same name as a sword in our world mythology

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it makes sense he is a sword user

vagrant epoch
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Besides he doesn't have a vision, so what was that blue power?

weary oriole
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abyss bs

vagrant epoch
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he'll be surely playable but how can we use his abyss power?

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The eighth element?

blazing pond
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By choking you

vagrant epoch
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Will they add another elemental power?

weary oriole
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who knows, abyss power doesn't derive from Celestia. Elemental magic does, and for now we are only capable of using elemental magic, every elemental magic possibily

vagrant epoch
weary oriole
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actually it is not even clear if Elemental magic does come from Celestia, but they definitely have some contro over it

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as they are the ones to give out visions

queen furnace
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Calling that Dainsleif, Abyss Twin, Paimon and “ascended” traveller will be “Abyss” or “Celestial” element

weary oriole
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peak anime bs

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I can see that happening

weary oriole
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and then we'll unlock delusions X_HuHegao

weary oriole
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ye me too W_WheezeTao

digital crane
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MC being Celestial and the twin (that we'll have to get from gacha W_KEKTao ) being Abyss element

weary oriole
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If Dainsleif is not a non-elemental playable character I'm rioting

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dains is an atheist

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of course he wont use an element from the gods

weary oriole
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so you are cringe?

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not based

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yes Y_HuTaoDerp

vagrant epoch
digital crane
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Gods are bad,though

weary oriole
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in this game yes

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somewhat

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we'll need more info W_HmmTao

drifting forge
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well if we follow the gnosticism theory, archons aren't even gods

icy flax
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man i was fully expecting to get surprised again when dains got the ruin guard's eye

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like when the fatui took the lyre

weary oriole
drifting forge
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how's it bad?

weary oriole
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stop drinking the gnosticism koolaid

drifting forge
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it's been pretty on point so far tho

weary oriole
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Vision (Chinese: 神之眼 Shén zhī Yǎn, "Eye of God")
Allogenes (Chinese 原神 Yuánshén, "Original God")

The gnosticism spin is clear in the EN script, but it is no where near as blatant in any other script. If we go by the literal meaning of CN lore relevant words, Vision Holders are Allogenes. Allogenes, for now, can only be human. So humans are "Original Gods".

Also this game should be called "Allogene Impact" in english.
drifting forge
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yeah i was also gonna bring up how archons doesn't even have anything to do with gods in jp either

weary oriole
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the gnostic spin is EN only pretty much

drifting forge
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i mean the name "archon"

weary oriole
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the only gnostic stuff that is shared in all scripts is the names of the archons, and the hymn of the pearl story

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at least those are the 2 I know of

drifting forge
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then isn't that pretty on point? W_HmmTao

weary oriole
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and demonology is not really gnosticism

weary oriole
drifting forge
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the gnosticism theory didn't even come from the en community

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it came from the korean fandom

weary oriole
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yeah, it come from looking at the EN script

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which is fanfiction

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just read CN

drifting forge
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i mean none of those names even discount the parallels with gnosticism so idk

grand atlas
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I bet about half the archons that died were killed and replaced by the devine in celestia, either for standing up to them or sharing their secrets, it explains why venti & zhongli are so eager to avoid the topic

mellow drum
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why doesnt celestia just nuke tsaritsa ass

weary oriole
grand atlas
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They most likely don't know what's she's up to

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She's relying on delusions instead of visions so celestia's power isn't being used by them

weary oriole
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she probably hasn't challenged them hard enough or they don't think she is even a threat

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MCs were blocked instantly

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she already got 2 gnosis

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but nothing gets done to stop her

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gnosis are either not that important for Celestia, or she is not a threat

drifting forge
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like this is the part that parallels genshin very much and switching languages won't change this

weary oriole
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only way Tsaritsa isn't threat to celestia is if she acts according to their plan W_HmmTao

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neh, that cosmology is pretty common in a lot of religious beliefs

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the community went deep into Gnosticism just because the EN script had a lot of references, but it is not the same in CN or JP

drifting forge
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it's the same script tho just different words

weary oriole
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Alloegene and Gnosis are very specific concept in gnosticism

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"hearth of the gods" and "Original god" are not really gnostic

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nah you can still get some good bits of gnosticism and apply it in your divine comedy X_HuTaoShrug

drifting forge
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yeah but the parallels with it won't disappear just because you call it something else lol

weary oriole
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wtf u on about

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there are no parallels in the CN and JP because those gnostic words don't exist

grand atlas
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Well the harbingers are doing all the dirty work for the Tsaritsa so I can see why celestia doesn't see her specifically as a threat

weary oriole
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they exist in the EN script, and only there

drifting forge
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i'm saying, the parallels exist even if you call it a different thing

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i'm not saying they're the exact same thing

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i'm saying they're similar

weary oriole
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negative IQ

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Meta youre hella based W_HmmTao

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I can't save you

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take the gnostic pill and be on your merry way

drifting forge
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you are misunderstanding what i mean by parallels and i'm not motivated enough to explain it to oyu

icy flax
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while y'all are theorizing i just

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New Lumine Facial Expression.

weary oriole
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seething loomean

queen furnace
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Angy

jaunty yoke
weary oriole
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booba?

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booba nerf for playable characters Y_HuSadge

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I will never forgive snoy and the ccp

jaunty yoke
#

now we know were Rosaria's assets were transferred to

mellow drum
#

Japanese in-game boobs physics too high tech for the Chinese to replicate

weary oriole
#

but MHY did that in Honkai W_WheezeTao

mellow drum
#

small budget game pls understan

weary oriole
#

if Rosaria was 5 star, they wouldn't nerf her booba W_HmmTao

#

booooba

mellow drum
#

could just be cautious measure with recent drama with Azur lane

weary oriole
#

I see booba, I buy. Simple as.

weary oriole
mellow drum
#

Chinese AL had to remove booba char cause CCP find them too indecent

weary oriole
hollow lake
#

I don’t see a name 👀

drifting forge
#

this is actually a pretty good explanation for why the quest ended without the statue being destryoed lol

#

tho i have no idea why the treasure hoarder subplot just disappeared

digital crane
#

Because abyss and gods and shit sounds more hype than treasure hoarders?

idle arch
#

treasure hoarder subplot disappeared cuz they all died

drifting forge
#

but like they left the commission hanging lol

#

it wasn't very clear which of them entered, tho i doubt it'd be baoer and the other guy

idle arch
#

no its more like bao'er and raptor commissioned the fontaine theif to go rob the dungeon

#

and the theif and his group got killed off

limpid prairie
#

they could have mentioned it, or at least Lumine take a glance at the statue then turn away. but no

#

they obviously just forgot

drifting forge
#

yeah them not finishing it completely makes me think the subplot will continue with the next part of this quest

#

would be hilarious if the treasure hoarders had a role in all this too

weary oriole
#

Their role was to guide us to the herald

icy flax
#

we just casually ghost ganyu and the guild after beating the crap out of the herald three times

#

and making our protag even more depressed

keen haven
#

speaking about that, check out collected miscellany for venti

#

Dain quite casually mentioned that he met Venti 500 years ago

sharp helm
#

And Venti greetings voiceline implies he has met the traveller before, could it be 500 years ago?

keen haven
#

around 3.55, Reweaving the threads of fate? loom of fate?

modest osprey
#

Some Fontaine lore 👀

#

According to her ...those lochfolks are spies(?)

floral tree
#

did anyone else hate the ruin hunter part of the quest?

#

shit was so annoying as FUCCCKK

exotic kelp
#

It seems like the new hydro archon is hunting down rhodeia

nocturne maple
#

for someone who choice dayflower seelie before

wild spire
#

I, uh, I didn't expect this?

#

this is the spanish version, they don't call each other aether and lumine, in fact aether just said my nickname (hermano = brother)

#

but aether is called aether anyway (though he's called éter, they also translated the name)

#

I'm so happy to hear zach having more lines 😭

nocturne maple
#

thats good for you :3

wild spire
#

they also translated "destiny" as "orden celestial" (celestial order)... ?

nocturne maple
#

well celestia was being mentioned a lot

worthy yarrow
#

Where is eula story quest video? X_HuCry

next sandal
#

when dain was talking about the prince/princess(?), for anyone that picked aether did the pronoun change?

jaunty yoke
wild spire
#

they do, yes

jaunty yoke
#

(btw, its kinda scary that in JP Aether name is Sora W_MonkaTao)

wild spire
#

and yeah, dain said prince at some point on my game

next sandal
#

which sibling did you pick?

wild spire
#

lumine

next sandal
#

ohh ok

weary oriole
#

Dont mind me and my little oceanid

#

Your oceanid is from fontaine? Umm

#

My oceanid is ayzien

#

Yuh

willow saddle
#

she basically just invades liyue's wuwang hill and kill tons of them?

floral tree
jaunty hollow
#

Didn't expect we got more about Fontaine in this Oceanid event

buoyant plume
uneven harbor
#

Friendship over with Seelie, Endora is my new best friend

cinder bough
#

awkward place for an orb to stay

noble hazel
#

So. Anyone else crying over "Home is where we are together" or is it just me

shrewd reef
#

It still seems like Abyss Herald and Lector are closer to human than Mages probably because they have human voices rather than gibberish which explains their situation

rich tapir
#

Can we talk that the traveller you choose don't care for teyvat and if they had the chance, would just go to other world with their siblings.

buoyant plume
#

Mages can speak too

cinder bough
#

Dainsleif pulling a fucking Dark Vader choke on the Herald was cool as shit

buoyant plume
#

Most people were talking about spoilers in leaks and doing || this || lmao

#

I wonder what power he has

vivid canyon
#

Same as Aether

#

And I can't wait til we get it for Traveller in 6 years

cinder bough
#

I think I might have to write a video or essay about lore comparisons with Genshin.

#

I'm seeing some similarities with other games and media that are super familiar.

plucky needle
#

So does that mean Dainsleif is pyro? Its blue but his power looks like blue flames

cinder bough
#

Probably a new element that might be added to the game, either Dark or Abyssal energy

static atlas
#

He can choke enemies

vivid canyon
#

Yeah it's a new "element"

#

There's a symbol for it I think

#

Well, it's not confirmed but people think it's the star I think

plucky needle
#

Hopin for the 1% chance of a Dainsleif banner someday, hes really grown on me after the quest

vivid canyon
#

But it's most definitely not an element we have

#

Ah yes

#

Dainsleif 2026

plucky needle
#

More time to save primos

whole current
#

primogem element lol

thin pollen
#

Lainsdeif.

vivid canyon
#

Grants you the ability to get a 5* every 90 rolls

#

An absolutely amazing deal from MHy

weary oriole
#

They announced that Dainsleif gonna be playable at one point. We just don't know when...

vivid canyon
#

Does that kinda confirm we're gonna get those powers at some point? W_HmmTao

bold flicker
#

It's like a galaxy kind of thing, or like a dark matter

wet valley
cinder bough
#

noticing that Paimon has the same starry background thing to her cape that Dainsleif has

bold flicker
wet valley
weary oriole
vivid canyon
#

You think we're getting Dainsleif before 2026?

#

That's funny

weary oriole
#

no hes coemes out in 3080

bold flicker
outer plinth
#

when you fight the new boss for the first time and 1 hit him XD i wanted a real fight sadcat

wet valley
bold flicker
rugged pawn
feral fern
#

What did they say about dainsleif in that secret livestream that is private now?

orchid sinew
brazen warren
#

hmm, if we look at our sibling during the new archon quest. He/She said that they have no elements

#

plus their design is same as traveler prior to getting blessing from anemo statue

plain zodiac
#

interesting...

vast latch
#

I honestly would like to see a "Physical" element

#

or characters without visions that could perhaps use multiple elements

#

why not have an alchemist that lobs a vial with random goo in it?

fossil berry
#

Would be cool if childe was hydro/electro

#

Since his fight is like that

fierce orchid
#

so

#

Lumine : LumineRage dont help dain
Aether : a_aethercry 👉👈 dont help dain

idle arch
#

it seems to be implied that the sibling is using the same kind of power as dainsleif is

fierce orchid
#

@idle arch it feels like dain is using what seele is using in honkai

idle arch
#

I never played honkai so lmao

#

I wonder how the reunion is in different languages

fierce orchid
#

basically shes in this thing called Sea of Quandra

#

after death shes stuck there

#

for like a few years

#

until her "sister" saved her

ivory harness
fierce orchid
#

which she kinda developed her own power there

idle arch
#

same I was talking about the voice acting

fierce orchid
#

and also developed a second personality

#

back to the point

#

it seems like her skill effects

#

kinda identical to what dainsleif has

idle arch
#

chinese (evil) aether is a lot more confident than his english counterpart at least

fierce orchid
#

here

#

i put on the timer

#

so it should be on 69 seconds where seele should be on screen

#

uhh

#

damn they didnt show the white seele

#

sadge

idle arch
#

lumine and aether have different swords

#

thats neat

fierce orchid
#

they better make them f2p

#

a weapon only for the traveller

#

cuz last time the festering desire just went straight to anyone need energy recharge

#

damn

#

still cant get my mind out of the fact that

#

lumine got booba

idle arch
#

so something like sword of descencion where it has a traveller specific effect?

finite quartz
#

is trav 500+ years old

#

mf what

vast latch
#

the story glances over a lot of weirdness when it comes to the traveler and paimon

finite quartz
#

o

vast latch
#

like they literally have crossed universes or planets can fly and other shit

#

also gods just went, lol have some power without giving visions

queen furnace
#

I still think it’s that the twins are able to take power without the help of gods

#

Like Venti didn’t give them Anemo power

weary oriole
brazen warren
idle arch
#

they're probably immortal world-hoppers who knows

feral valve
#

everybody dies in stone ocean

#

oh wait its not that kind of spoilers channel

#

eheh

weary oriole
#

ohhh

#

the abyss heralds hydro blades are so simialr to childes

#

i think its because when childe was 14 he fell into the abyss

#

and skirk (maybe somebody related to abyss heralds) taught him how to fight

#

interesting

#

but childe didnt have a vision then i dont think

brazen warren
#

spoilers on aot 139: ||poggers, rickrolled||

gray raven
#

wonder what dain's element is

#

it looks really cool

queen furnace
#

Probably “Abyss” element

#

It would make sense that the residents of Khaenri’ah, with all their distaste for gods, would resonate with an element that the archons couldn’t provide

gray raven
#

Or they created

queen furnace
#

This could also explain why Kaeya got a vision from an archon even though he is from the “godless country”
He only received his vision during a fight against Diluc, meaning he only got it once he started living in a society with gods (Mondstat)

weary oriole
#

Elemental magic comes from Celestia, or they have some control over it at least, since they are the ones to give visions. Khaenriah was "without gods" and relied on alchemy, which was outside of elemental magic domain. I think they got nuked because they tried to do forbidden stuff with alchemy.

#

Gold and his fuck ups

gray raven
#

How old is Kaeya tho

#

if Khaenri'ah fell so slow ago

weary oriole
#

ages are wonky, we mcs are at least 500 years old

#

dains is 500 as well, at least

queen furnace
#

We MCs have been on Teyvat for over 500 years

weary oriole
#

Ganyu is 3k

gray raven
#

eh not too wonky

queen furnace
#

We have been alive for much longer

gray raven
#

I've also heard a theory that Kaeya was frozen in time

weary oriole
#

Kaeya could be 500 as well

queen furnace
#

Dain is a bit over 500, since he was likely 20-30 when he got cursed with immortality

weary oriole
#

no please

queen furnace
#

Kaeya could be 520-525

weary oriole
#

no time bullshit

queen furnace
#

Cause he could have been given immortality as well

weary oriole
#

this story is already bad enough without time bullshit

gray raven
#

Time makes it better

weary oriole
#

absolute casual

queen furnace
#

Says the person who thought a slightly more intricate story was a plot hole

weary oriole
#

lumine being in teyvat for 500 years. how awkward was it for paimon to know that.

gray raven
#

Also I think this quest made me lose any thought that Paimon is a villain or whatever

queen furnace
weary oriole
gray raven
#

To me Paimon is basically like Ai-chan

queen furnace
queen furnace
#

Abyss twin explored the world to find a way to wake MC up, found out the truth about Teyvat, took part in Khaenri’ah’s battle, at which point MC woke up, they tried to escape

#

And that’s the first cutscene

weary oriole
gray raven
#

and also paimon is the unknown god and evil

queen furnace
#

Tbf MC’s memory got erased

#

So he does need the guide rn

weary oriole
#

I think mc is just pretending, like a lot of people are

queen furnace
#

It’s just that the more he interacts with the abyss (and his sister), he remembers more and more

#

Like Khaenri’ah

weary oriole
weary oriole
queen furnace
#

Not exactly, but the fact is that MC’s character profile states that he remembers fighting Unknown God and seeing the cataclysm
And now he’s starting to remember the name of the region in the cataclysm

weary oriole
#

to me that is bad writing

#

but he could be just pretending

queen furnace
#

He’s slowly getting more of his memory that the last 500 years of being stuck in the cube has gotten rid of

#

Him pretending would be awful writing

weary oriole
#

it would be

#

but otherwise it is literally not explained

queen furnace
#

It’s much better writing how it’s going right now, that he had his memories erased

weary oriole
#

you need to grasp at sraws to make the new info makes sense with the old ones

queen furnace
#

Again, literally in the first chapter of the game, obviously they won’t tell us everything

weary oriole
#

just like Venti and ZL were pretending to not know MC

queen furnace
#

The whole point of RPGs is having mystery slowly revealed

minor saddle
#

I really want someone to draw aether and lumine like this after doing the recent archon quest

weary oriole
#

when he and his sister were active in the Cataclysm 500 years ago

queen furnace
#

Venti and Zhongli pretending not to know the twins is very much a thing that happened
Cause, as dain said, GODS SUS

weary oriole
#

I feel like you should just admit this story has had a peak of bad writing, for now

#

it can be saved

#

but it was definitely not necessary

#

khaenriah also sus. why would they have field tillers, not soil but blood. ain't that a dangerous civilisation?

queen furnace
#

I’m not admitting it cause it’s not bad writing

queen furnace
#

Just cause you can’t accept that we’re not getting all the info about the game at once doesn’t mean the writing is bad

digital crane
#

The peak bad writing is twin saying that we have to travel and understand or some shit.

weary oriole
#

khaenrians could have been a dangerous civilisation that gods must destroy, else they harm everyone in teyvat

#

is this your first story?

#

babby first narrative?

queen furnace
#

They didn’t immediately tell us Luke and Leia are siblings, does that mean it was bad writing?

weary oriole
#

because they were not siblings originally

#

Lucas was an hack

queen furnace
#

Or how about this, Darth Vader’s reveal
It’s obvious in retrospect but they didn’t reveal it immediately when he was on screen

#

It took a whole movie to get that reveal

weary oriole
#

yeah but there were no inconsistencies in his character before the second movie

queen furnace
#

There are no inconsistencies here

weary oriole
queen furnace
#

I admit Genshin isn’t the most intense story in the universe

weary oriole
queen furnace
#

But it’s not a plot hole filled mess

weary oriole
#

at this point I think YOU are bad writing

gray raven
#

here rn

weary oriole
#

peko is love, peko is life

#

also canon

feral valve
#

spoilers to the fnaf lore
||never gonna give you up||

autumn patio
#

did yall saw the eula cutscene leak??!!

drifting forge
grand flare
drifting forge
#

kinda surprised this event has lore this big

#

seems like the new hydro archon isn't very good

#

also this one concluded properly unlike the archon quest lol

gray raven
#

does that mean hilichurls are the people of Khaenri'ah too?

weary oriole
#

So hillichurls are based on indigenous people after all

finite quartz
#

eh

#

it's not really

#

it's just people are COMPARING them to indigenous people

#

not mihoyo

outer plinth
#

got my new baby, she is trying to copy me already

brazen warren
weary oriole
#

and we now know what the eclipse tribe was, canonically

#

mc is mega sus

past path
#

so instead of using a vision granted by the gods, dainslief uses the curse of the abyss from the gods?

#

how would that work when hes playable

weary oriole
past path
#

oh ok

exotic kelp
#

the curse is just immortality

past path
#

hmm but what about the fire stuff he made to get the eye?

exotic kelp
#

he has his own power

past path
#

oh

compact marlin
#

is it some like lost khaenriah magic

past path
#

so mybe just be categortized as "abyss" in the character screen

#

that seems like a ton of work for mihoyo so he probably wont be the only one with that type of magic

#

their not gonna make a new element/magic for one character

compact marlin
#

But abyss doesn't match the rest of the vision names so they'll probably name it smth that also ends with o

past path
#

hope their are other "twilight weapons"

exotic kelp
#

He doesnt even use vision in the first place

compact marlin
#

true

past path
#

yeah but more than likely he will be playable so

compact marlin
#

But the elements all end with o

past path
#

he has to have a skill or something

visual palm
past path
#

that was what im talking about

visual palm
#

itd look pretty sick playing with attacks like these

past path
#

its not pyro but its not like

compact marlin
#

hmmmmssstt

exotic kelp
#

It doesnt have to end in o

compact marlin
#

Hnggggghhggghhg

past path
#

the new quest was amazing just left me with alot of questions

compact marlin
exotic kelp
#

what are you talking about

compact marlin
#

the other 7 elements don't have to end with o, but they do because it sounds nice

past path
#

a name i dont think matters too much

#

its just a magic thing ig

compact marlin
#

Then again

#

Having a name that ends with something other than o would make it look out it place/unique from the other elements

past path
#

isnt that kinda the point of his magic

#

he made it very clear he doesnt want to be associated with the gods

compact marlin
#

why not

exotic kelp
#

His magic is already out of place

past path
#

so having something thats not from the gods would fit

exotic kelp
#

whatever the nameim is, its stillout of place

#

so it doesnt matter

compact marlin
#

But wouldn't the name help it look even more out of place

exotic kelp
#

Its already out of place in the first place

#

it doesnt matter regardless

compact marlin
#

well

hollow pelican
#

what element is this?

exotic kelp
#

Its not revealed yet

ivory harness
#

Element : *demonic noise *

hoary topaz
#

Bro i just want him to be playable already

orchid sinew
#

same

muted viper
crimson junco
#

He even said it himself that it’s not elemental magic

orchid sinew
#

right

#

there's still a lot of questions about that tbh

thorny geyser
#

He doesn't like the gods so it would make sense that he doesn't have a vision

jaunty yoke
#

damn, didn't expected some Fontaine lore from Endora

wild spire
#

same! and it makes me even more interested on the region and on the archon

weary oriole
#

Rhodeia in her dialogues is quite spiteful and talks about an "assassin from our homeland". She, and maybe other oceanids, are in contrast with the current Hydro Archon enough to warrant assassination attempts, according to her at least. Fontaine "civil war"?```
drifting forge
weary oriole
#

maybe we'll see void mobs when we go deeper into the abyss and get a quantum char

rich tapir
#

I wonder if all oceanides can bless someone

#

Since Diona was blessed by the Pond Fairy and now we know that she is a oceanid.

heavy hamlet
weary oriole
#

i think it is in her character story

#

but oceanids appear to children mainly

rich tapir
# wet hamlet what

Diona was blessed by the Pond Fairy, every drink that diona make will be the best drink ever made. She think it was just a dream.

wet hamlet
#

OHHH THATS SO CUTE

queen citrus
#

Do we have electro archon leak?

weary oriole
#

What about those who killed the previous Hydro Archon are the Oceanids, or they blamed the Oceanids, and the current Hydro Archon, Goddess of Justice, wants to do her job?

rocky stirrup
#

that gives me chills

vivid canyon
#

That Venti voiceline

idle arch
#

it was ||Bravely Default|| this whole time

random light
#

So Paimon is actually Airy

#

👀

hoary topaz
#

I do think theres more then a Time loop tho that wouldn't explain other weird things in the world of tevyat rn

#

So wait i don't get it wasnt khaenri’ah fucked by an alchemist

#

how does gods play into it

idle arch
#

could be multiple reasons

#

though you have to remember that these are stories and not actual history books lol

gaunt raven
#

@drifting forge lmao the word "quantum" remind me of antman

feral fern
#

Did anyone notice in the story quest, the weapons used by abyss aether and lumine are different

idle arch
#

yeah its the swords they were using in t he opening

hearty dome
#

can we get back our real sword in the future

#

make it a free 5* weapon

molten flare
vast latch
#

I don't think it is a timeloop but more of a reavers like situation with cycles of destruction caused by celestia

#

basically, the abyss order is an extremist opposition of celestia

#

where as we're siding with the archons who are seemingly going after the gods as well as in more passive mannerr

#

like for one we know that dragonspine was destroyed by celestia doing some rods from god BS

fierce orchid
#

So uhh

#

Top is khaenri'ans

dark gorge
#

paimon do be setting up a death flag

thorny crest
tawny adder
#

i found paimon more kawaii in this new questpaimonthonk_v2

tawny adder
#

in gameplay you can do that but in plots no one ever mentioned it

drifting forge
#

No one confirmed what?

tawny adder
#

i mean characters in the game world never mentioned lumine ever do teleportation

#

but as players we did it everyday

#

so it's metagaming elements

drifting forge
#

I never said anything about teleportation...

#

Did you reply to the wrong person lol

tawny adder
#

i mean paimon's lines on your pic

#

she definitely means teleportations

hollow lake
tawny adder
hollow lake
#

This got me dying 💀

misty talon
#

"I'm gonna hold myself accountable for helping destroy a civilization"

tawny adder
#

i don't thonk they purposely destroyed khaenri’ah, it must be the byproduct of archon wars, right? paimonthonk_v2

#

now you can continue playin' venti and zhongli

hollow lake
#

Supposedly it was the gods of celestia which is different to archons?

#

Apparently the JP and KR used different words to address them but I use English so I’m not sure

tawny adder
#

she seems to be mhy herself

buoyant estuary
#

its the celestia gods but archons hold a seat in celestia

#

how much power one seat, or even 7 seats united, have, is unknown, though. of the view we got of celestia... there's way more than we can count

bold flicker
tawny adder
#

bruh moment

#

btw this game at this point was more and more like ryza 1, where people in hakushin medieval times suddenly found out they had an ancient civilization with high tech

#

like suddenly from a medieval game to a sci-fi gamepaimonthonk_v2

#

i would like it

bold flicker
#

I see, although Dain said "the first Filler" (Ruin Guard, i forgot what its called), was build in 500 years ago. While Mondstadt and Liyue doesn't have any technology like that so far

#

Correct me if I'm wrongX_HuNervous

tawny adder
#

and a prototype of it had a battle with one of the weekly bosses

#

and paimon didn't know what "prototype" means

lost canopy
buoyant estuary
#

field tiller

#

though that could just be paimon being dumb, we have a whole... (gestures at all the prototype weapons)

tawny adder
#

and then where's the prototype of ruin hunter?

buoyant estuary
#

eh, ruin hunter prototype is chekov's gun

#

itll come up later

tawny adder
buoyant estuary
#

prototype archaic. prototype starglitter. prototype rancour

tawny adder
#

i see

buoyant estuary
#

the weapons r still there, the billets were renamed for. like

#

doubling up makes confusion

#

they do say in the description

#

"an ancient [type] discovered in the blackcliff forge. [description specific to the weapon, it is very cool]"

bold flicker
#

Sounds like a Russian's names or maybe I can say a Sneznaya's name

buoyant estuary
#

oh, reading the weapon descriptions theyre not related. its just paimon being dumb then

buoyant estuary
# bold flicker Who's chekov?

chekov's gun: when there's a seemingly insignificant detail (the writer notes there's a gun hanging on the wall) that comes back to bite the plot in the ass later (in the third chapter, someone takes it off the wall and shoots a bitch)

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so named after the guy who made the quote describing it

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— Anton Chekhov```
tawny adder
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i seepaimonthonk_v2

buoyant estuary
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so ruin hunter prototype is chekov's gun because since there's a ruin guard prototype, there must be a ruin hunter prototype, and since the ruin guard prototype can fuel the loom of fate, so too must the ruin hunter prototype

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its gonna come back to bite us in the ass later, probably, but thats fine because its interesting

drifting forge
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If we go by the gnosticism theory, the archons arent even actual gods and the travelers in their peak are much more powerful than them (aeon)

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and before that guy comes here insulting me for drinking the gnosticism kool aid because i used 'archon'

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JP (and i assume ch too) calls them 魔神 which can translate to evil spirit

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Which archons in gnosticism are (spirits)

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but i brought this up cause i think houkai is actually the will of monad (the one true god) or something which is why i think the gnosticism parallels actually hold up

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and if asmoday is actually demiurge parallel, it would make sense why k'haenriah was destroyed because they were close to enlightenment

teal eagle
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Ok, so I just finally went and did the new archon quest and I mostly loved it! But is it just me, or was the writing for the Traveler's reaction upon finding out that their sibling was the leader of the Abyss Order kind of... bad?

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I would be screaming and crying if I found out my sister was the leader of the organization that I was fighting against this entire fucking time, but the Traveler just moves on like it's nothing

woven island
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"this entire fucking time" but its only been liek half a year

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and mc is hopeful since mc wants to know wat the sibling is talking about

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about the nature of the world

teal eagle
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Ok, good point

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But still

woven island
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it mentions why mc isnt sad in the dialogue

teal eagle
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I feel like it would still affect someone a lot emotionally to see their sibling that they were looking for in that state, but maybe that's just me

woven island
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mc did look pretty sad but got over it cuz mc wants to understand the situation

feral fern
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So by gods they mean only archons or celestial beings or both

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?

woven island
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anything godly

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think they count boreas as a god but he isnt an archon which is wat i took from the dialogue

plain cedar
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So wait i just realize

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We literally leave the domain without destroying the anemo statue lmao

feral fern
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Boreas was a god but he died and his soul still lingers around which willingly became a servant of the archons and a friend of venti

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So Dainsleif hates him

shrewd reef
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More like he doesn't want to meddle with Archon affairs and has nothing to do with them

drifting forge
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Destroying the statue would prob mean picking dain's side

shrewd reef
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he wants us to destroy the evidence to avoid suspicion though it would seem we would have to raise more questions for him

feral valve
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dead guy in the new quest is the scardy cat from hutao teaser

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scaredy*

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idk

drifting forge
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Just same model

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The great thief is from fontaine

idle arch
hoary topaz
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I think from now on the stories direction will be about. Trust and Truth, as Rosaria said in 1.2 ''You trust way too much in everyone''. With the recent reveals im thinking the game is gonna take a ''who can you even trust?'' direction

bold wolf
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Not even the game dev themselves

hoary topaz
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:KEK:

outer barn
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damn...

hoary topaz
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whats wrong with my emotes

buoyant estuary
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ur out of nitro lol

hoary topaz
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Thats weird i was gifted one

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Okay got it fixed

compact marlin
brave tree
meager quiver
weary oriole
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Air brakes are not spoilers

grand atlas
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Found some spoilers

weary oriole
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did 1.6 get leaked?

vivid canyon
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We probably won't get 1.6 leaks until 1.5 is here and 1.6 beta starts

ashen mural
latent yew
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Ok, let us know when there is more! Thank You!

jagged gorge
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Let's just wait guys.. Anyone got popcorn?

ionic yacht
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Oof

undone citrus
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Griffin Burns' tiktok is legitimately cursed from what I've heard of it

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xD

still timber
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Cursed? Dont you mean to say cultured

still timber
fading anvil
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Red herring... I think that's what the grand thief was acting as

brave tree
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do you think that inazuma will be announced in their 1st year anniversary?

floral tree
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hmmm

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maybe?

brave tree
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alright gotta keep waiting I guess 😅

wild pasture
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also what if the great thief is gonna be a future character and the dead person is just a fake put there by the great thief

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bcs he knew of the danger and wanted to leave

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doesnt sound like a great thief if he died so easily

remote stream
queen furnace
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Still wack that they killed off the “grand thief” from Fontaine
Could’ve made them a new character that you could roll for once Fontaine came out

untold quiver
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i have a wack theory that the "grand thief" we saw dead is not the actual grand thief and just some guy pretending to be him. but thats probably wrong and that was the grand thief

drowsy pulsar
queen furnace
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I’m down horrendous

woven island
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lumie and his 4th eula aa animation pauses

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😳

queen furnace
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Seeing that the main characters for Fontaine that we know for now are a couple of circus performers (circus performers are pretty commonly thieves and there’s speculation that one’s a Harbinger), and we know the region is technologically advanced (development of the Kamera), Fontaine seems like a place where the Treasure Hoarders’ main base could be
Some kind of master thief would be fun, especially considering the fact that it was stated one of the thieves involved in the quest was “blessed by the god of thieves”