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hmmm interesting
Which I'm guessing is aether's japanese name
so no translation error
yea
But in any case, if they wanted to leave that ambiguous, they could just make them say "brother/sister"
So yeah, it feels like it's done on purpose
yea that was definitely intentional
I don't know what the names are in Cn or KR
i doubt theyd miss that
On a few hours I'll play the quest with spanish text
Or bad coding
Her or His names are different depending on a chosen language
I highly doubt it will change but I will notify anyway
I think they did it to cement canon. We are called Aether(male) Lumine (female)
and not our nickname
which does show up in subtitles
yea i know but why give the option to name the character in the first place then
thats my question
because it is a game
Watch lumine go full monika in a few months
we use that nickname for coop mainly
eh
seems weird
That is true actually
But still
it is a gameplay thing tho
not really lore
I mean its still weird dont you think
Still, they could just say brother or sister without having to specify a name
there are weirder things in this very chapter

I mean I'm glad she says the actual name
yea but from a meta perspective
like everything else was lore related
they fucked up the 4th wall
it was not a 4th wall break but almost, and I don't think on purpose
Can I ask what do they specifically say about the gods watching khaenri'ah fall?
I do think it's on purpose but we don't know why yet maybe
they just wanted to say "Aether/Lumine is your canon name, in the chapters"
right
and they did it badly

put faith in mihoyo

And this also means abyss mages are vision holders and regular hilichurls just normal people?
That's why dains asked us that question on the first quest?
but i doubt that
abyss mages use magic throught the branch they hold
only humans, so far, are shown to be able to use vision
Damn, even in the abyss order, no one gets Electro visions

ayo dainsleif do be kinda cool tho
and half humans I guess
it's more interesting what are herrschers in this world, and that relationship with destiny
could the archons just be puppets
I once saw that kaeya has very similar animations to a cryo abyss mage
Based
Lumine is the Hersher of Time

ZA WARUDO
this quest really made me want Dain in my team 
same
Same lol
dains is cringe but based
😳
"UHMM gOds BAAd"
I mean yeah, when the abyss mage is recovering it’s shield it does what is essentially Kaeya’s Q

ye no shit Dain 
Gods do be kinda sus tho
"I don't want to go to church, mom"
Venti sus

dain reminds me of gyuu lmao
cringesleif
Venti sus, Zhongli based
I see the pattern MHY
Weren't barbatos and morax names of demons?
Then who was xiao
yes
well chinese name of archons means demon gods, thats why
Oh that’s what you meant
or devils
more appropriate
What symbol did they use for demon in this case
the names of the Archons come from demonology
which btw, was an absolute shitpost from 16th century more or less
it's ultimate christian shitpost 
The Lesser Key of Solomon, also known as Clavicula Salomonis Regis or Lemegeton, is an anonymous grimoire on demonology. It was compiled in the mid-17th century, mostly from materials a couple of centuries older. It is divided into five books—the Ars Goetia, Ars Theurgia-Goetia, Ars Paulina, Ars Almadel, and Ars Notoria.
people had too much time on their hands
Oh you’re right actually
I remember baal
every Archon has a demon name, and Paimon as well


here is the list of the demon names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons_in_the_Ars_Goetia
The demons' names (given below) are taken from the Ars Goetia, which differs in terms of number and ranking from the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum of Johann Weyer. As a result of multiple translations, there are multiple spellings for some of the names, explained in more detail in the articles concerning them. The sole demon which appears in Pseudomo...
anyway how it might correlate with the story
Im thinking about archons being this opposed force of "destiny" whatever it is, but still puppeteered by it, then Tsaritsa creates Fatui to fight all of that mess cause she has no choice, while old Khanerians themselves try to destroy it
paimon is there... paimon = archon?

are we going full drakengard on the main plot?
So when Barbara is worshipping barbatos she’s really worshiping the devil
so Rosaria being vampire makes complete sense now
I've been thinking
Doesn't it make sense that the archon that is stealing the other gnosis is precisely the one they call the goddess of love?
If the archons are... not as good as they're supposed to be
she is purifying them 
giving them back humanity 
Love comes in many forms
i loved it
it was ok
we finally know something more about khaenriah
Depends on how good you were on bubble crash
lol
i was good at the bubbe crash
Bael is a demon described in demonological grimoires such as the Lesser Key of Solomon and the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum (where he is the first spirit mentioned) and also described in the Dictionnaire Infernal. He is described as a hoarsely-voiced king with the power to make men invisible and ruling over sixty-six legions of demons.
so reading a bit on Baal, invisibility seems like a common power
it may be present in her kit when she is released
If we can’t see Baal then how can we lewd her

that is a powerful statement from the writers
now they are not allowed plot holes, by definition
Dain really moved to abyss with core 
wait, so traveller really is 500+ years old?
nah, its just funny that people don't let them drink alcohol and shit 
he is at least 500 years old, unless you want to include time travelling bs

They might be older than even Zhongli
well, they still look young
it's not like they can just say "Bruh, I'm older than your ancestors"
They are at least over 2k years old
They traveled a lot of worlds together before Teyvat for sure
yeah but for how long, we don't really know that
At least that is my guess
that got dark
the fact that "dain" is basically dainsleifs universal nickname is so endearing to me for some reason
okay, this is kinda scary tbh
there's blood on the rocks with a dead person. rip unnamed treasure hoarder
what, you've never seen people nuke their fields with missiles in agriculture?
f to the great thief
keeps the soil fertilised
this mean Ruin Guards are mini Colossal Titans? 
I'd say anyone who can ||do the Force Choke|| is gonna be fine
I doubt he's captured
he may be surrounded, but that only means he can attack all sides

he'll figure something out, and hopefully won't cause Osial 2.0 to succeed
At least they prevented the order for now
flying tentacle monster
sorta, but the Eye is with him though
Why i have a feeling the Tsaritsa is gonna ally with the Order anyways
could've tossed it to us first
They both want Celestia to die
they won't ally
Tsarista and Abyss Oeder want different sides of the same goal so probably not
similar objective, but different means and lots of clashing stuff in the finer details
not to mention i think they hate eachother
the Abyss is still an enemy to all
tsaritsa doesnt like celestia only, she doesnt seem to have that much beef with the other seven archons
the abyss order on the other hand, wants them all dead
I better have some interrogation shit with Raiden after clearing Inazuma
on a side note, the abyss heralds cn voice 
Tsarista wants to have a world without Celestia being behind the scenes and all that and destroying nations and stuff, whereas Abyss Order doesn't want Celestia solely due to their own reasons and none of the nations' and stuff
that, and they're being fueled by a corruptive power that has brainwashing effects
The Traveler once they manage to reach Raiden:
Because at least that's what i would do
“Why did you close your borders for a year”
its just like dain said, the abyss order may have good reason and the right to be angry at the abyss, but they shouldnt be bringing destruction to the innocents who never had anything to do with it
destiny, celestia
fake sky
Traveler demands an explanation from Archons
I hope Genshin's Raiden Mei wouldn't be a character that's as badly written as Honkai Mei

fk off
People are always trying to find excuses for what Mei did to Kiana in Chap 17
so many things can be resolved if we had one good convo with any of the archons 
ikimasssu
"But Kiana i want to save you"
Beats her up
based kiana
spends over a dozen chapters not really achieving anything
beats up Kiana
and then uhhh
hmmm why does paimon know the part of the travelers being blocked by the unknown god "really well"


Paimon teaches all arts, philosophies and sciences, and secret things; he can reveal all mysteries of the Earth, wind, and water, what the mind is, and where it is, and everything the conjurer wants to know. He gives good familiars, dignities and confirms them, and binds men to the conjurer's will.
If Paimon is cited alone, and offering or sacrifice must be done, and he will accept it; then two kings called Beball (Bebal or Labal) and Abalam (Abalim) will go to him together with other spirits, often twenty-five legions; but these other spirits do not always come unless the conjurer calls upon them.
Paimon is depicted as a man with an effeminate face, wearing a precious crown, and riding a dromedary. Before him often goes a host of demons with the shape of men, playing trumpets, cymbals, and any other sort of musical instrument.```
because the Traveler told them in the very first scene when we play the game? Right after choosing our character name

If tsaritsa is a God of love, why did the trailer said that "she is a God with no love left for her people", is it because it's related to the event 500 years ago?
who tf screeshots their own posts
yes she got super salty
I have power to see future now
this made me laugh
boop
The quest was pretty lit ngl but wat bout paimon huh, wheres the answers for her

was testing out the special camera
for the first time
Theres something funny bout dains giving that look on a spinning hutao
nice pictures
Current mood is me regretting that I picked Aether, not Lumine
JP Abyss!Aether hurts way more than Abyss!Lumine TBH
this make sense as lumine
since on the trailer itself it was showing lumine running away from the destruction
Abyss!Lumine is cold and eerie, sure, but Abyss!Aether is that kind of antagonist who is clearly soft, but also firm in his ideals.
instead of aether
Aether as a big bad brother
https://youtu.be/jf9Z2gYnvYM
Genshin Impact has a new archon quest called “We Will Be Reunited.” It’s a main quest where you’ll battle the Abyss Herald several times, and it also significantly advances the story forward. Just remember that you should first reach Adventure Rank 36. Likewise, you should’ve completed “The Meaning of Lupical” (which made the Andrius boss fight ...
Like, with separated siblings theme and pain, Abyss!Aether just hits harder.
Because he clearly wants to be back with her, but at the same time, there's this thing he has to do and he has no plans to turn back.
So it just honestly stings a lot more with Aether as the antagonist.
my boy zach got more lines than just wind blade 
finally
Long Ganyu
just wonder what happened to twin and why are they left as the royal to abyss
and therefore can't reunite with us
They probably know the truth about this world and believe the abyss is in the right
Either we prove them wrong or we join them
Nobody is even in the right in Teyvat ☹️
i mean lumine believes what she's doing is correct
and part of what she wants is good
however it's not entirely morally correct and stuff
the pfp
is that you watanabe
The quest ended before we got to destroy the statue?????
man the quest was dumb
you could yeet the abyss herald off and instantly kill him
because there's an opening to the void in one of the arena's borders
it made me laugh more than whatever the story arc was trying to set up LMAOOO
Every good RPG has a funny way to kill a boss
paimon was like “that battle was so tough man”
but she literally just witnessed me throw the boss off into the void below skywars style
in this channel specifically no
because people who view this channel understand it's literally in the name
in other channels you'll probably be punished for even mentioning it spoilered or not
having lumine be the traveler makes ||dain kinda gay tbh|| lol
yeet and done you say?
I had to quit quest cause he was stuck
having Lumine as a traveler makes good protagonist syndrome commentary on Aether 
when you put on your yaoi lenses anything can be kinda ||gay||
So
I was hoping the one who made the sky rains fire
Was alice
But meh i guess 
So twins are legal
What?
500 year old
tru
it was funny that the very first millisecond mihoyo confirmed that the twins were 500+ shippers were like
SEE I TOLD YOU SO
fk
🤔
yeah same
I kept asking for blood in genshin like manga
But we got something worse
Which isn't bad

he's just pretending guys
if you look at his face he's actuallyy blinking lol
yeah he stopped breathing for the funnies
don't think venti will die tbh

Anyway what happened to Khaenri'ah isn't like an honkai?
I didn't play the game but I've read something
isn't celestia protecting teyvat from houkai or something
zhongli dying is possible too
or was that just a theory? i don't know anmore lol
it would be a mindfuck if the gods were protecting teyvat from honkai
Yeah but death without blood
Isn't Celestia that "sends" the honkai?
Is kinda
"When an archon, or any god, dies, their power flows out of them and into the surrounding area. When a god chooses to pass on, they are able to control the flow of power and use it to the benefit of the land.[7] However, if they are killed, the surge of power can easily overwhelm those in the vicinity; for example, the power released upon Havria's death salinized her adherents.[8] Gods cannot be completely destroyed — even if a god's physical form is destroyed, its will and power live on. The remnants and the wrath of the defeated god will remain in the world, waiting for opportunities to cause chaos.[9]"
Someway he still lives I guess
they just pass power
didn't the god of salt die because her own people killed her
like all for one
Yeah but Gods and archons aren't the same
o right
Havria was a minor goddess
wdym gods and archons aren't the same 
Is Honkai like the spiral in guren lagann anyway? Lol
archons are just high class gods, their powers are from same source and sometimes strength 
- Wasn't Gold the one who turned people to monsters?
well at least we know why abyss and Tsaritsa are fighting against Celestia if they send honkai like beasts in future
but celestia is protecting teyvat from honkai by ensuring that no civilisation becomes advanced enough
protected in chains 
that's what they want you to believe

I mean that’s honkai plot too
he has the same name as a sword in our world mythology
it makes sense he is a sword user
Besides he doesn't have a vision, so what was that blue power?
abyss bs
By choking you
Will they add another elemental power?
who knows, abyss power doesn't derive from Celestia. Elemental magic does, and for now we are only capable of using elemental magic, every elemental magic possibily

actually it is not even clear if Elemental magic does come from Celestia, but they definitely have some contro over it
as they are the ones to give out visions
Calling that Dainsleif, Abyss Twin, Paimon and “ascended” traveller will be “Abyss” or “Celestial” element
he will be first non-elemental playable character 
and then we'll unlock delusions 
I Wish
ye me too 
MC being Celestial and the twin (that we'll have to get from gacha
) being Abyss element
If Dainsleif is not a non-elemental playable character I'm rioting
dains is an atheist
of course he wont use an element from the gods
in the world full of gods, that just makes me like him 
so you are cringe?
not based

yes 

Gods are bad,though
well if we follow the gnosticism theory, archons aren't even gods
man i was fully expecting to get surprised again when dains got the ruin guard's eye
like when the fatui took the lyre
that is a bad theory
how's it bad?
it's been pretty on point so far tho
Vision (Chinese: 神之眼 Shén zhī Yǎn, "Eye of God")
Allogenes (Chinese 原神 Yuánshén, "Original God")
The gnosticism spin is clear in the EN script, but it is no where near as blatant in any other script. If we go by the literal meaning of CN lore relevant words, Vision Holders are Allogenes. Allogenes, for now, can only be human. So humans are "Original Gods".
Also this game should be called "Allogene Impact" in english.
yeah i was also gonna bring up how archons doesn't even have anything to do with gods in jp either
the gnostic spin is EN only pretty much
i mean the name "archon"
the only gnostic stuff that is shared in all scripts is the names of the archons, and the hymn of the pearl story
at least those are the 2 I know of
then isn't that pretty on point? 
and demonology is not really gnosticism
how is that on point
the gnosticism theory didn't even come from the en community
it came from the korean fandom
i mean none of those names even discount the parallels with gnosticism so idk

I bet about half the archons that died were killed and replaced by the devine in celestia, either for standing up to them or sharing their secrets, it explains why venti & zhongli are so eager to avoid the topic
They most likely don't know what's she's up to
She's relying on delusions instead of visions so celestia's power isn't being used by them
she probably hasn't challenged them hard enough or they don't think she is even a threat
MCs were blocked instantly
she already got 2 gnosis
but nothing gets done to stop her
gnosis are either not that important for Celestia, or she is not a threat
like this is the part that parallels genshin very much and switching languages won't change this
only way Tsaritsa isn't threat to celestia is if she acts according to their plan 
neh, that cosmology is pretty common in a lot of religious beliefs
the community went deep into Gnosticism just because the EN script had a lot of references, but it is not the same in CN or JP
it's the same script tho just different words

Alloegene and Gnosis are very specific concept in gnosticism
"hearth of the gods" and "Original god" are not really gnostic
nah you can still get some good bits of gnosticism and apply it in your divine comedy 
yeah but the parallels with it won't disappear just because you call it something else lol
wtf u on about
there are no parallels in the CN and JP because those gnostic words don't exist
Well the harbingers are doing all the dirty work for the Tsaritsa so I can see why celestia doesn't see her specifically as a threat
they exist in the EN script, and only there
i'm saying, the parallels exist even if you call it a different thing
i'm not saying they're the exact same thing
i'm saying they're similar
negative IQ

Meta youre hella based 
I can't save you
take the gnostic pill and be on your merry way

you are misunderstanding what i mean by parallels and i'm not motivated enough to explain it to oyu
seething loomean
Angy

now we know were Rosaria's assets were transferred to
but MHY did that in Honkai 
small budget game pls understan
could just be cautious measure with recent drama with Azur lane
was it some twitter mob bs or something noteworthy? 
I don’t see a name 👀
this is actually a pretty good explanation for why the quest ended without the statue being destryoed lol
tho i have no idea why the treasure hoarder subplot just disappeared
Because abyss and gods and shit sounds more hype than treasure hoarders?
treasure hoarder subplot disappeared cuz they all died
but like they left the commission hanging lol
it wasn't very clear which of them entered, tho i doubt it'd be baoer and the other guy
no its more like bao'er and raptor commissioned the fontaine theif to go rob the dungeon
and the theif and his group got killed off
they could have mentioned it, or at least Lumine take a glance at the statue then turn away. but no
they obviously just forgot
yeah them not finishing it completely makes me think the subplot will continue with the next part of this quest
would be hilarious if the treasure hoarders had a role in all this too
Their role was to guide us to the herald
we just casually ghost ganyu and the guild after beating the crap out of the herald three times
and making our protag even more depressed
speaking about that, check out collected miscellany for venti
Dain quite casually mentioned that he met Venti 500 years ago
And Venti greetings voiceline implies he has met the traveller before, could it be 500 years ago?
Also check out the teyvat chapter preview
around 3.55, Reweaving the threads of fate? loom of fate?
did anyone else hate the ruin hunter part of the quest?
shit was so annoying as FUCCCKK
It seems like the new hydro archon is hunting down rhodeia
for someone who choice dayflower seelie before
I, uh, I didn't expect this?
this is the spanish version, they don't call each other aether and lumine, in fact aether just said my nickname (hermano = brother)
but aether is called aether anyway (though he's called éter, they also translated the name)
I'm so happy to hear zach having more lines 😭
thats good for you :3
they also translated "destiny" as "orden celestial" (celestial order)... ?
well celestia was being mentioned a lot
Where is eula story quest video? 
when dain was talking about the prince/princess(?), for anyone that picked aether did the pronoun change?
I think thats only on Spanish
in English they call each other their names
they do, yes
(btw, its kinda scary that in JP Aether name is Sora
)
and yeah, dain said prince at some point on my game
which sibling did you pick?
lumine
ohh ok
People who didn’t choose blue seelies because they are too normal:
Dont mind me and my little oceanid
Your oceanid is from fontaine? Umm
My oceanid is ayzien
Yuh
she basically just invades liyue's wuwang hill and kill tons of them?
it doesn’t get along with pink seelie? 
Didn't expect we got more about Fontaine in this Oceanid event
Friendship over with Seelie, Endora is my new best friend
awkward place for an orb to stay
So. Anyone else crying over "Home is where we are together" or is it just me
It still seems like Abyss Herald and Lector are closer to human than Mages probably because they have human voices rather than gibberish which explains their situation
Can we talk that the traveller you choose don't care for teyvat and if they had the chance, would just go to other world with their siblings.
Mages can speak too
Dainsleif pulling a fucking Dark Vader choke on the Herald was cool as shit
Most people were talking about spoilers in leaks and doing || this || lmao
I wonder what power he has
I think I might have to write a video or essay about lore comparisons with Genshin.
I'm seeing some similarities with other games and media that are super familiar.
So does that mean Dainsleif is pyro? Its blue but his power looks like blue flames
Probably a new element that might be added to the game, either Dark or Abyssal energy
Hotaru ❤️
Yeah it's a new "element"
There's a symbol for it I think
Well, it's not confirmed but people think it's the star I think
Hopin for the 1% chance of a Dainsleif banner someday, hes really grown on me after the quest
primogem element lol
primogem Vision
Lainsdeif.
Grants you the ability to get a 5* every 90 rolls
An absolutely amazing deal from MHy
They announced that Dainsleif gonna be playable at one point. We just don't know when...
Does that kinda confirm we're gonna get those powers at some point? 
i heard that Dainsleif "element" is called Stellar
It's like a galaxy kind of thing, or like a dark matter
where'd you hear that? :0 just curious
noticing that Paimon has the same starry background thing to her cape that Dainsleif has
From @AeEntropy on twitter
do you still have the thread by chance?
i thought dendro was next
no hes coemes out in 3080
I just recheck it and it wasn't from @AeEntropy, my bad. I just remember someone said it in comment section on Reddit
when you fight the new boss for the first time and 1 hit him XD i wanted a real fight 
thats alright! but thank you for telling me
Sure. Although you can still follow @AeEntropy on twitter

What did they say about dainsleif in that secret livestream that is private now?
is there any other banners like that but for other characters with elements we know of?
hmm, if we look at our sibling during the new archon quest. He/She said that they have no elements
plus their design is same as traveler prior to getting blessing from anemo statue
interesting...
I honestly would like to see a "Physical" element
or characters without visions that could perhaps use multiple elements
why not have an alchemist that lobs a vial with random goo in it?
so
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dont help dain
Aether :
👉👈 dont help dain
it seems to be implied that the sibling is using the same kind of power as dainsleif is
@idle arch it feels like dain is using what seele is using in honkai
basically shes in this thing called Sea of Quandra
after death shes stuck there
for like a few years
until her "sister" saved her
I play the game in Chinese haha, it's as emotional
which she kinda developed her own power there
same I was talking about the voice acting
and also developed a second personality
back to the point
it seems like her skill effects
kinda identical to what dainsleif has
chinese (evil) aether is a lot more confident than his english counterpart at least
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i put on the timer
so it should be on 69 seconds where seele should be on screen
uhh
damn they didnt show the white seele
sadge
they better make them f2p
a weapon only for the traveller
cuz last time the festering desire just went straight to anyone need energy recharge
damn
still cant get my mind out of the fact that
lumine got booba
so something like sword of descencion where it has a traveller specific effect?
the story glances over a lot of weirdness when it comes to the traveler and paimon
o
like they literally have crossed universes or planets can fly and other shit
also gods just went, lol have some power without giving visions
I still think it’s that the twins are able to take power without the help of gods
Like Venti didn’t give them Anemo power
ages are wacky in this game, welcome to peak anime bs land

ohh blue exorcist traveler
they're probably immortal world-hoppers who knows
ohhh
the abyss heralds hydro blades are so simialr to childes
i think its because when childe was 14 he fell into the abyss
and skirk (maybe somebody related to abyss heralds) taught him how to fight
interesting
but childe didnt have a vision then i dont think
time to spoil aot 
spoilers on aot 139: ||poggers, rickrolled||
Probably “Abyss” element
It would make sense that the residents of Khaenri’ah, with all their distaste for gods, would resonate with an element that the archons couldn’t provide
Or they created
This could also explain why Kaeya got a vision from an archon even though he is from the “godless country”
He only received his vision during a fight against Diluc, meaning he only got it once he started living in a society with gods (Mondstat)
Elemental magic comes from Celestia, or they have some control over it at least, since they are the ones to give visions. Khaenriah was "without gods" and relied on alchemy, which was outside of elemental magic domain. I think they got nuked because they tried to do forbidden stuff with alchemy.
Gold and his fuck ups

We MCs have been on Teyvat for over 500 years
Ganyu is 3k
eh not too wonky
We have been alive for much longer
I've also heard a theory that Kaeya was frozen in time
Kaeya could be 500 as well
Dain is a bit over 500, since he was likely 20-30 when he got cursed with immortality
Kaeya could be 520-525
no time bullshit
Cause he could have been given immortality as well
Time makes it better
Says the person who thought a slightly more intricate story was a plot hole
lumine being in teyvat for 500 years. how awkward was it for paimon to know that.
Also I think this quest made me lose any thought that Paimon is a villain or whatever
can you even read?

Yeah, and I read that your thoughts on the ‘hole’ was wack
fix your brain damage
To me Paimon is basically like Ai-chan
It’s been over 500 years since the twins landed in Teyvat
Abyss twin explored the world to find a way to wake MC up, found out the truth about Teyvat, took part in Khaenri’ah’s battle, at which point MC woke up, they tried to escape
And that’s the first cutscene
yep. and paimon didn't know, started to be a guide. it's like HS student teaching math to math professor with a phd
and also paimon is the unknown god and evil

I think mc is just pretending, like a lot of people are
It’s just that the more he interacts with the abyss (and his sister), he remembers more and more
Like Khaenri’ah
really? i must have missed it. i thought she was just looking for khaenriah for 500 years.
does this get mentioned in the quest?
Not exactly, but the fact is that MC’s character profile states that he remembers fighting Unknown God and seeing the cataclysm
And now he’s starting to remember the name of the region in the cataclysm
He’s slowly getting more of his memory that the last 500 years of being stuck in the cube has gotten rid of
Him pretending would be awful writing
It’s much better writing how it’s going right now, that he had his memories erased
Again, literally in the first chapter of the game, obviously they won’t tell us everything
just like Venti and ZL were pretending to not know MC
The whole point of RPGs is having mystery slowly revealed
I really want someone to draw aether and lumine like this after doing the recent archon quest
when he and his sister were active in the Cataclysm 500 years ago
Venti and Zhongli pretending not to know the twins is very much a thing that happened
Cause, as dain said, GODS SUS

I feel like you should just admit this story has had a peak of bad writing, for now
it can be saved
but it was definitely not necessary
khaenriah also sus. why would they have field tillers, not soil but blood. ain't that a dangerous civilisation?
I’m not admitting it cause it’s not bad writing
Just cause you can’t accept that we’re not getting all the info about the game at once doesn’t mean the writing is bad
The peak bad writing is twin saying that we have to travel and understand or some shit.

khaenrians could have been a dangerous civilisation that gods must destroy, else they harm everyone in teyvat
is this your first story?
babby first narrative?
They didn’t immediately tell us Luke and Leia are siblings, does that mean it was bad writing?
bad example
because they were not siblings originally
Lucas was an hack
Or how about this, Darth Vader’s reveal
It’s obvious in retrospect but they didn’t reveal it immediately when he was on screen
It took a whole movie to get that reveal
yeah but there were no inconsistencies in his character before the second movie
There are no inconsistencies here

I admit Genshin isn’t the most intense story in the universe

But it’s not a plot hole filled mess
here rn
spoilers to the fnaf lore
||never gonna give you up||
did yall saw the eula cutscene leak??!!
reminds me of a certain manga that ended recently
heh
kinda surprised this event has lore this big
seems like the new hydro archon isn't very good
also this one concluded properly unlike the archon quest lol
does that mean hilichurls are the people of Khaenri'ah too?
eh
it's not really
it's just people are COMPARING them to indigenous people
not mihoyo
got my new baby, she is trying to copy me already
Mc did say something like "I.... I remember this" when discusssing something about 500 years ago
yes they did about the "eclipse" tribe. And that line I think was available at release
and we now know what the eclipse tribe was, canonically
mc is mega sus

so instead of using a vision granted by the gods, dainslief uses the curse of the abyss from the gods?
how would that work when hes playable
mechanically it makes no difference, it is a distinction that only exists in lore
oh ok
the curse is just immortality
hmm but what about the fire stuff he made to get the eye?
he has his own power
oh
is it some like lost khaenriah magic
so mybe just be categortized as "abyss" in the character screen
that seems like a ton of work for mihoyo so he probably wont be the only one with that type of magic
their not gonna make a new element/magic for one character
But abyss doesn't match the rest of the vision names so they'll probably name it smth that also ends with o
hope their are other "twilight weapons"
hmm probably
He doesnt even use vision in the first place
true
yeah but more than likely he will be playable so
But the elements all end with o
he has to have a skill or something
that was what im talking about
itd look pretty sick playing with attacks like these
its not pyro but its not like
hmmmmssstt
It doesnt have to end in o
Hnggggghhggghhg
the new quest was amazing just left me with alot of questions
Neither do the 7 elements
what are you talking about
the other 7 elements don't have to end with o, but they do because it sounds nice
Then again
Having a name that ends with something other than o would make it look out it place/unique from the other elements
isnt that kinda the point of his magic
he made it very clear he doesnt want to be associated with the gods
no it wont
why not
His magic is already out of place
so having something thats not from the gods would fit
But wouldn't the name help it look even more out of place
well
Its not revealed yet
Element : *demonic noise *
Bro i just want him to be playable already
same
Someone said that his element is "Stellar Element"
Dainsleif doesn’t have an element, it’s magic left from a lost civilization, khaenri’ah
He even said it himself that it’s not elemental magic
He doesn't like the gods so it would make sense that he doesn't have a vision
damn, didn't expected some Fontaine lore from Endora
same! and it makes me even more interested on the region and on the archon
Rhodeia in her dialogues is quite spiteful and talks about an "assassin from our homeland". She, and maybe other oceanids, are in contrast with the current Hydro Archon enough to warrant assassination attempts, according to her at least. Fontaine "civil war"?```
||quantum|| maybe
maybe we'll see void mobs when we go deeper into the abyss and get a quantum char
I wonder if all oceanides can bless someone
Since Diona was blessed by the Pond Fairy and now we know that she is a oceanid.
I think it's Khemia, or some Abyss powers
what
Diona was blessed by the Pond Fairy, every drink that diona make will be the best drink ever made. She think it was just a dream.
OHHH THATS SO CUTE
Do we have electro archon leak?
What about those who killed the previous Hydro Archon are the Oceanids, or they blamed the Oceanids, and the current Hydro Archon, Goddess of Justice, wants to do her job?
that gives me chills
it was ||Bravely Default|| this whole time
I do think theres more then a Time loop tho that wouldn't explain other weird things in the world of tevyat rn
So wait i don't get it wasnt khaenri’ah fucked by an alchemist
how does gods play into it
could be multiple reasons
though you have to remember that these are stories and not actual history books lol
@drifting forge lmao the word "quantum" remind me of antman
Did anyone notice in the story quest, the weapons used by abyss aether and lumine are different
yeah its the swords they were using in t he opening
didnt we talk to the pond fairy with endora
I don't think it is a timeloop but more of a reavers like situation with cycles of destruction caused by celestia
basically, the abyss order is an extremist opposition of celestia
where as we're siding with the archons who are seemingly going after the gods as well as in more passive mannerr
like for one we know that dragonspine was destroyed by celestia doing some rods from god BS
paimon do be setting up a death flag
i found paimon more kawaii in this new quest
btw isn't that a metagaming joke?
in gameplay you can do that but in plots no one ever mentioned it
No one confirmed what?
i mean characters in the game world never mentioned lumine ever do teleportation
but as players we did it everyday
so it's metagaming elements
I never said anything about teleportation...

Did you reply to the wrong person lol

This got me dying 💀
"I'm gonna hold myself accountable for helping destroy a civilization"
i don't thonk they purposely destroyed khaenri’ah, it must be the byproduct of archon wars, right? 
now you can continue playin' venti and zhongli
Supposedly it was the gods of celestia which is different to archons?
Apparently the JP and KR used different words to address them but I use English so I’m not sure
she seems to be mhy herself
its the celestia gods but archons hold a seat in celestia
how much power one seat, or even 7 seats united, have, is unknown, though. of the view we got of celestia... there's way more than we can count
Maybe. But I read some articles and why the Gods purposely destroying khaenriah is because khaenriah does not have a God, and Gods want to give some "lesson" to understand why they are need God
bruh moment
btw this game at this point was more and more like ryza 1, where people in hakushin medieval times suddenly found out they had an ancient civilization with high tech
like suddenly from a medieval game to a sci-fi game
i would like it
I see, although Dain said "the first Filler" (Ruin Guard, i forgot what its called), was build in 500 years ago. While Mondstadt and Liyue doesn't have any technology like that so far
Correct me if I'm wrong
and a prototype of it had a battle with one of the weekly bosses
and paimon didn't know what "prototype" means

field tiller
though that could just be paimon being dumb, we have a whole... (gestures at all the prototype weapons)
and then where's the prototype of ruin hunter?
and this item was renamed into billet or whatever
prototype archaic. prototype starglitter. prototype rancour
i see
the weapons r still there, the billets were renamed for. like
doubling up makes confusion
they do say in the description
"an ancient [type] discovered in the blackcliff forge. [description specific to the weapon, it is very cool]"
Who's chekov?
Sounds like a Russian's names or maybe I can say a Sneznaya's name
oh, reading the weapon descriptions theyre not related. its just paimon being dumb then
chekov's gun: when there's a seemingly insignificant detail (the writer notes there's a gun hanging on the wall) that comes back to bite the plot in the ass later (in the third chapter, someone takes it off the wall and shoots a bitch)
so named after the guy who made the quote describing it
— Anton Chekhov```
i see
so ruin hunter prototype is chekov's gun because since there's a ruin guard prototype, there must be a ruin hunter prototype, and since the ruin guard prototype can fuel the loom of fate, so too must the ruin hunter prototype
its gonna come back to bite us in the ass later, probably, but thats fine because its interesting
If we go by the gnosticism theory, the archons arent even actual gods and the travelers in their peak are much more powerful than them (aeon)
and before that guy comes here insulting me for drinking the gnosticism kool aid because i used 'archon'
JP (and i assume ch too) calls them 魔神 which can translate to evil spirit
Which archons in gnosticism are (spirits)
but i brought this up cause i think houkai is actually the will of monad (the one true god) or something which is why i think the gnosticism parallels actually hold up
and if asmoday is actually demiurge parallel, it would make sense why k'haenriah was destroyed because they were close to enlightenment
Ok, so I just finally went and did the new archon quest and I mostly loved it! But is it just me, or was the writing for the Traveler's reaction upon finding out that their sibling was the leader of the Abyss Order kind of... bad?
I would be screaming and crying if I found out my sister was the leader of the organization that I was fighting against this entire fucking time, but the Traveler just moves on like it's nothing
"this entire fucking time" but its only been liek half a year
and mc is hopeful since mc wants to know wat the sibling is talking about
about the nature of the world
it mentions why mc isnt sad in the dialogue
I feel like it would still affect someone a lot emotionally to see their sibling that they were looking for in that state, but maybe that's just me
mc did look pretty sad but got over it cuz mc wants to understand the situation
anything godly
think they count boreas as a god but he isnt an archon which is wat i took from the dialogue
So wait i just realize
We literally leave the domain without destroying the anemo statue lmao
Boreas was a god but he died and his soul still lingers around which willingly became a servant of the archons and a friend of venti
So Dainsleif hates him
yes
More like he doesn't want to meddle with Archon affairs and has nothing to do with them
Destroying the statue would prob mean picking dain's side
he wants us to destroy the evidence to avoid suspicion though it would seem we would have to raise more questions for him
I think from now on the stories direction will be about. Trust and Truth, as Rosaria said in 1.2 ''You trust way too much in everyone''. With the recent reveals im thinking the game is gonna take a ''who can you even trust?'' direction
Not even the game dev themselves
:KEK:
damn...
it do be like that

whats wrong with my emotes
ur out of nitro lol
did 1.6 get leaked?
We probably won't get 1.6 leaks until 1.5 is here and 1.6 beta starts
Wait for more news, it's not reliable enough
Ok, let us know when there is more! Thank You!
Let's just wait guys.. Anyone got popcorn?
Oof
Cursed? Dont you mean to say cultured
Idk maybe he might have arrived early for the plan
Red herring... I think that's what the grand thief was acting as
do you think that inazuma will be announced in their 1st year anniversary?
alright gotta keep waiting I guess 😅
hopefully sooner
also what if the great thief is gonna be a future character and the dead person is just a fake put there by the great thief
bcs he knew of the danger and wanted to leave
doesnt sound like a great thief if he died so easily
remember facebook quiz primos? yeah same 
Still wack that they killed off the “grand thief” from Fontaine
Could’ve made them a new character that you could roll for once Fontaine came out
i have a wack theory that the "grand thief" we saw dead is not the actual grand thief and just some guy pretending to be him. but thats probably wrong and that was the grand thief
I’m down horrendous
Seeing that the main characters for Fontaine that we know for now are a couple of circus performers (circus performers are pretty commonly thieves and there’s speculation that one’s a Harbinger), and we know the region is technologically advanced (development of the Kamera), Fontaine seems like a place where the Treasure Hoarders’ main base could be
Some kind of master thief would be fun, especially considering the fact that it was stated one of the thieves involved in the quest was “blessed by the god of thieves”













