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#・genshin-spoilers
empty tide
inb4 the voice actor was unable to pronounce it
granite geyser
static atlas
i play chines
buoyant estuary
fhu'kyu
static atlas
austere gull
Taller than zhongli?
feral valve
imagine once he is playable he will get the xiao treatment (playable xiao shorter than npc xiao )
austere gull
Npc xiao was pretty short too
feral valve
not as short as xiao
feral valve
big brain
static atlas
bc she has the kid model
feral valve
too much plans to destroy the wine industry
austere gull
Shes huge next to him too omg
buoyant estuary
head full many thoughts
austere gull
Dainsleif looks weird af this quest
static atlas
dainsleif has a weird eye thing
feral valve
thoughts to destory the wine industry
static atlas
paimon grow a bren
oh wait
it does have an n
dains didnt pronounce it before
now he does
queen furnace
Also rewatching old cutscenes Paimon’s voice acting (at least in EN) is getting better
feral valve
oh i just noticed that
finite quartz
physically punch aether in the face
rocky scarab
Im rly sus of paimon
timber kelp
Im rly sus of paimon
same
feral valve
who isnt sus of emergency food caught on a fishing rod
rocky scarab
Either she is pretending big time or she lost her memory
feral valve
who has the ability to fly wthout wings, yet almost drowned
stable coral
idk if this is a hot take but after this quest I kinda wish paimon wasn't with us because it was darker than usual and I didn't like paimon ruining the emotional grit with her happy tone and 'its gonna be alright!!!!'
queen furnace
She def lost her real memory of being evil but will realize that travelling with us was the best time she’s ever had and thus spares us
feral valve
dainsleif is evolved paimon
static atlas
ew
feral valve
daddymon
rocky scarab
HAHAAAHAHHAH DADDYMON
queen furnace
Maybe Paimon was already on our side 500 years ago and that’s why the abyss twin doesn’t question her being there
rocky scarab
idk if this is a hot take but after this quest I kinda wish paimon wasn't with u...
She was trying to cheer us up, i think thats paimon being paimon
stable coral
She was trying to cheer us up, i think thats paimon being paimon
Yeah I know, it's just that I was really enjoying the more emotional moment
and it was ruined for me with paimon interfering 
feral valve
Ah yes, a new digimon
i misread it as religion
rocky scarab
and it was ruined for me with paimon interfering <:C_ChildeSigh:7939148181126512...
i get what u mean
feral valve
daddymon is also my religion
feral valve
so instead of paimommy its paira-ara-mon
timber kelp
<:W_KEKTao:792100185144295434> paimon
i dont get it?
static atlas
the way she says is
wait so when can we go to the lower floors of the lair
wtf
midnight trellis
No MC... once we get to inazuma we will have more festivals!!
fk the archon quest amirite
its festival impact
weary oriole
Why did the MC bounce back so fast from discovering their sister was literally heading an organization that wants to kill people
Like. What. How are we so overly positive
lost canopy
i feel like this guna be one of those stories where the one who’s wrong is based on perspectiv
weary oriole
Wandering around Tevyat being forced to watch all his people turn into furry monsters...how on earth did he maintain his sanity
weary oriole
Why? Don't you like seeing sexy Abyss Prince Aether
nimble cliff
Idk i feel like lumine is better as the antagonist
lost canopy
i kinda prefer abyss aether than lumine
nimble cliff
Abyss lumine is cute
midnight trellis
distracting us eh
weary oriole
Well, JP Lumine was talking so SOFT like wtf somebody just drained her all out of energy or smth
lost canopy
abyss lumine looks indifferent
weary oriole
But that's probably what they were going for
Calm and indifferent, yes
I hated the Paimon part in the end I'm sorry
nimble cliff
Yes
late hinge
guy died in a single mona + hu tao ult
static atlas
abyss herald
static atlas
no he didnt he has a shield
weary oriole
The Abyss Herald did not produce a single ounce of adrenaline in me
static atlas
nimble cliff
You're too op
static atlas
keep fighting
austere gull
i kinda prefer abyss aether than lumine
Same although canonically aether is the mc
static atlas
theres 3 fights
late hinge
oh, are there?
late hinge
thank god
nimble cliff
Not much different from the 1st one tho
nimble cliff
Don't try to one shot him if you want to have fun
late hinge
I didnt think it would one shot him gah
austere gull
He was so much weaker than expected lmao
lost canopy
I feel they guna buff herald so hard in spiral abyss
midnight trellis
late hinge
I feel they guna buff herald so hard in spiral abyss
even then if he pops like a fucking balloon idk man
weary oriole
I'll say this again: I think the traveler should have brooded a little more over the prospect of his sibling being on the dark side, rather than bouncing back so quickly
lost canopy
even then if he pops like a fucking balloon idk man
agreed
light fox
We're getting too see a dead guy in the next Dansielf quest 
late hinge
all Im saying is I expected the fight to be like childe
late hinge
not that childe doesnt die fast but man
nimble cliff
I thought his head was chopped of lol
late hinge
I thought his head was chopped of lol
SAME
should have been tbh
that would be properly fucking menacing
lost canopy
i wanna see characters die in genshin tbh
austere gull
Also aether (or lumine) had white in the places the element they had showed up does that mean he collected all of them? Or maybe he doesn't have an element achievable to us?
late hinge
wahoo
lost canopy
Kaeya khaenriahn?
austere gull
But now it doesn't add up?
austere gull
Cause kaeya is supposed to be 20 something ish but khaenri ah was destroyed 500 years ago
So to be proclaimed a khaenri ahn youd have to be alive when it was still a thing right
nimble cliff
Cause kaeya is supposed to be 20 something ish but khaenri ah was destroyed 500 ...
Maybe kaeya's great great grandfather survived?
austere gull
Especially cause most people from khaenri ah are either dead or abyss monsters
static atlas
hes definitely special
static atlas
hes one of the only human survivors of khaenriah
lost canopy
dain was given an immortality curse ryt? If kaeya was a knight then he failed too i guess
static atlas
the other humans have turned into monsters
nimble cliff
hes one of the only human survivors of khaenriah
Ey dain and travelers are also human
static atlas
traveler is only a passerby
lost canopy
Every khaenriahn is human
static atlas
dain is cursed
midnight trellis
noone gonna talk about dain choking powers
austere gull
But we dont know the origins of the travelers
lost canopy
noone gonna talk about dain choking powers
i want him to choke me
nimble cliff
But we dont know the origins of the travelers
Isekai'd twins
static atlas
traveler travels tho
rocky scarab
Kaeya is descendant of khaenriah for sure but i doubt he is actually 500 yrs old
midnight trellis
static atlas
which is how kaeya came about
midnight trellis
austere gull
Maybe just maybe he was corrupted by the abyss but somehow broke the curse after like 480 years and now lives like a normal human
olive crater
What if Kaeya was cryopresevered like that of the boar in Xiangling's quest
austere gull
Just like the wolf but it took him a lot longer
midnight trellis
Dain (if he didnt die after jumping into the portal) gonna teach kaeya abyss powers
midnight trellis
Nah
austere gull
And kaeyas outfit is very spiral abyss looking
midnight trellis
Abyss was khaenriah
midnight trellis
Aether just salty dain is usrless
nimble cliff
Lumine be fighting with destiny and doing shit while aether is building his harem and play fking minigames
austere gull
Right cause theoretically dainsleif is also part of the abyss since khaenri ah is now the abyss
midnight trellis
Fighting with destiny as in celestia gods cuz there was something about if ur given a vision ur destiny is already set in stone
timber kelp
who is dain, is it dainsleif?
midnight trellis
Or sky
austere gull
Yeah
midnight trellis
Ye
rocky scarab
Or may be the abyss is controlled by an evil force that corrupts ppl (hence abyss is so vengeful) and dains is not affected by that
static atlas
well
aether is the price
prince
and dains used to serve him
clearly aether's interests changed
austere gull
Dain is clearly special in a way but I don't see a vision anywhere on him
nimble cliff
Dain is clearly special in a way but I don't see a vision anywhere on him
Yeah he doesn't have one
midnight trellis
Dainsleif ex herald?
austere gull
So somehow he's very strong without the power of the gods
rocky scarab
Aether and dains split perhaps because our sibling was “corrupted” in a way?
static atlas
ye
nimble cliff
Dain just goes sonic his way out into the portal
static atlas
aether either knows more or has been corrupted or brainwashed
at this rate i think hes brainwashed
abyss literally wants to nuke teyvat bc teyvat nuked them
salty as mfs
austere gull
I don't understand why he would do that to lumine or the other way around
Like why couldn't they just go home
static atlas
lumine has protag halo and aether knows that
austere gull
Take your twin and go
static atlas
nimble cliff
Noone gonna talk about the tree or root thingy dain talked about
static atlas
did he say smt abt the tree
nimble cliff
austere gull
He talked about so many things I can't even remember them all
midnight trellis
Probs the first leyline tree?
static atlas
ye sounds like some brenwash bs
midnight trellis
Cant wait for 3 more months for continuation
midnight trellis
Disctract MC with more festivals
austere gull
Now that I'm looking closer
austere gull
Dainsleif is almost corrupting the herald
nimble cliff
But 1.6 seems like a great filler ngl
midnight trellis
Choked him hard
static atlas
dains sus
austere gull
It's just like the abyss corruption
austere gull
So obviously they're the same
nimble cliff
Even paimon is sus
austere gull
Paimon scares me
nimble cliff
Can't trust anyone in teyvat
austere gull
She just shook it off like it was nothing
lost canopy
cant trust teyvat itself
lost canopy
jean danchou
nimble cliff
Klee
austere gull
Jean doesn't
nimble cliff
Klee can't be sus
static atlas
klee sus
austere gull
Not even jean
lost canopy
Klee can't be sus
klee mama sus
static atlas
klee's mum also sus
austere gull
Honestly I'm not even sure I trust diluc
austere gull
Yeah
static atlas
in any other game
midnight trellis
The last thril was osial arc which was ages ago
static atlas
6months into the game i wouldve known like
midnight trellis
Azdaha arc seems like filler
austere gull
Zhongli and venti growing more sus by the day
midnight trellis
abyss sibling just said enemies are the gods. Ok lets help zhongli with his drama vs his old enemy
lost canopy
Azdaha arc seems like filler
Yea it’s zhongli quest season 2
static atlas
honestly
austere gull
I'm not sure anyone trusts them anymore
static atlas
dongli was sus from the very beginning
hes hot
but sus
venti i didnt actually think was sus
nimble cliff
I think 1.6 will be focused around the new housing system
static atlas
but now looks sus
austere gull
Imma do the quests but I'll be super vigilant
midnight trellis
I think 1.6 will be focused around the new housing system
1.5 probs
austere gull
Like I don't trust this man not even if he tells me he trapped a big monster for the safety of his people blah blah
nimble cliff
austere gull
He was literally watching as a god was destroying his city
austere gull
I still to this day don't understand
static atlas
he wants osial alive for something
especially back when he was god of war
there was no way he was compassionate or anything
def sus why he didnt kill osial
austere gull
Same with venti why did he just let signora take his gnosis and not put up a fight? You're a GOD signora is just a harbinger I'm more than sure he could've easily defeated her and got back his gnosis
As for zhongli he was absolutely pathetic giving his gnosis away like its candy
static atlas
dude couldve literally yeeted hes the literal god of wind
austere gull
Are they dumb or what
static atlas
feels like venti acts like that bc he wants us to trust him
nimble cliff
As for zhongli he was absolutely pathetic giving his gnosis away like its candy
We still don't know their reasons yet
blazing pond
Did you not pay attention to anything at all
static atlas
zhongli has ulterior motives
austere gull
feels like venti acts like that bc he wants us to trust him
WELL IT'S NOT WORKING
lost canopy
Like I don't trust this man not even if he tells me he trapped a big monster for...
Yea this super made sense esp with his feud with the god of salt
austere gull
You know that even the quests and everything that make us feel sympathy for them could be them acting right
austere gull
The least sus god at this point is the unknown lmao
She just did what she had to do
static atlas
unknown god rlly just trapped aether then backed off
unknown god actually kiana
kiana did her job and went back to honkai
static atlas
fallen arch
felt cute, might bully two twins from another world
static atlas
ok but
hidden rune
im calling the "grand thief" of fontaine a reference to lupin III
static atlas
khaenriah cool
midnight trellis
Guys remember the Treasure hoarders still waiting for the Grand Thief to come out 
static atlas
they made a whole killing machine
and then made more
oh i was gonna do something but forgot
oh
my daillies
static atlas
onyx ermine
hidden rune
and reference to magic kaito
static atlas
mecha osial
honestly
kinda wanna see
mecha osial
sad that dains took the core
midnight trellis
Mechazilla
upper stump
nimble cliff
There's chance that the story will also continue in 1.5
static atlas
left click
shrewd reef
never in my life i had to struggle in a dungeon lmao
whoever put the bubbles from the mario party minigame peculiar wonderland enjoys our suffering
crisp whale
So I finished the new Archon Quest. I loved it, it was very good compared to a lot of other story we get in this game IMO
heavy hull
e
crisp whale
But I'm still left wondering about some things. Why didn't Dainsleif and the Traveler just destroy the eye of the first Field Tiller? Sounds like a lot less trouble than being its keeper, are they anticipating they can use it somehow?
They also didn't destroy the flipped statue, which is what they set out in the ruins to do in the first place, but it's understandable enough, Dainsleif for some reason went through the last portal the Herald conjured and the Traveler's mind was loaded from the encounter they had with their sibling
onyx ermine
after the quest finished i tried to destroy the statue bc i remember them planning to destroy it.
crisp whale
Same, I gave it a whack just for fun
onyx ermine
crisp whale
The act would've been really easy, too, the enemy had just fled the ruins, realistically we could've ruined the Abyss Order's big plan just like that, since they need the statue to make that mechanized god
well, not that they couldn't just steal another statue, but yeah
onyx ermine
is the deceased thief part of the abyss order operation?
crisp whale
WHY DID THEY IDE BUBBLE SPEEDSTERS
Yeah, found that annoying too. Couldn't get all the chests
queen furnace
But I'm still left wondering about some things. Why didn't Dainsleif and the Tra...
I’m sure Dain has some sort of emotional attachment, as much as he tries to hide it
crisp whale
I'm guessing the deceased thief doesn't play much of a role in this whole thing, he just got involved in something beyond himself and paid the ultimate price for it as a victim
onyx ermine
is the deceased thief part of the abyss order operation?
when we came back to the domain he seem to have disappeared
crisp whale
If anything, it shows us what exposure to abyssal power might do to a human. A regular human at least
crisp whale
I’m sure Dain has some sort of emotional attachment, as much as he tries to hide...
Maybe. Since he was a former royal guard. Maybe he perceives the fall of his nation as his own personal failure and it haunts him to this day
It also explains why he hates the Seven, they kind of destroyed his home to begin with
bronze badge
Btw MC's sibling still has the original sword right when he faced unknown god ?
crisp whale
I don't know if he has any direct hatred for humans. Maybe indirect, since mostly all of them worship gods that had a hand in the destruction of his home
queen furnace
I think it’s very sus that they point out that even Zhongli and Venti may have been involved
I hope there’s some way that they can address that since we know Zhongli’s gonna get a story quest
onyx ermine
they definitely were involved
crisp whale
Since they were part of the original Seven, yeah
onyx ermine
dain told us ourselves to be careful with them
crisp whale
They all combined their powers to lay waste to the nation. I can't remember the name
shrewd reef
Nah, Dain hates god but isn't bitter about it and doesn't want revenge on them unlike the Abyss Order
queen furnace
It’s so weird to think that they’ve then been taking advantage of the fact that Aether/Lumine doesn’t remember what they did in the past
queen furnace
They all combined their powers to lay waste to the nation. I can't remember the ...
Khaenri’ah
onyx ermine
more likely bc Dain was not turned to a churl, so he tried to live a normal life without practically holding grudges n revenge 
shrewd reef
they had a lot of things to decide when they set aside their differences
crisp whale
The Traveler also seems somewhat bent on hearing an explanation from Zhongli and Venti
So they next time they meet, I guess I do expect to see that being covered
cursive patio
wait wasnt Kaeya from Khaenri’ah?
crisp whale
They sure seemed disconcerted to hear of what they've allegedly done from Dainsleif
queen furnace
I mean, the issue is that Zhongli’s next quest is dealing with Azdaha
But then if they have that, idk if they’ll bring up the “Yo, why did you literally destroy a country” thing
north flume
would mc question zhongli about the fall of khaen'riah
crisp whale
They might bring it up initially, when they next meet Zhongli, and then that conversation will transition into "aight let's take care of Azdaha and then I can tell you more while the outro of this quest is rolling"
queen furnace
It’ll be like, “Now, about that Khaenri’ah question... Quest complete”
gleaming acorn
Finally mc mentioned inazuma
cursive patio
It’ll be like, “Now, about that Khaenri’ah question... *Quest complete*”
then we wait for like 6 months
austere gull
wait wasnt Kaeya from Khaenri’ah?
Indeed
weary oriole
wait the prince/princess says "i cannot go with you to the next world to find a new home"
sweet nymph
guys, remember that ganyu cosmissioned us to check the ruins?
We haven't report back to ganyu wtf
weary oriole
rip
rocky arch
I feel like even if we ask the archons about what happened they wouldn't tell us either way 
weary oriole
am i the only one annoyed that we just left without destroying the statue
weary oriole
sweet nymph
Wait, what happened to this statue after the quest finished?
static atlas
bc otherwise 'the honkai' will come and destroy teyvat
thats cool
and uh
its just
there
it just stays there
digital crane
Infinity gauntlet when?
sweet nymph
don't we just destroy that?
ivory eagle
mecha osial is still a thing
static atlas
mecha osial real plz
ok but if the honkaiverse theory proves true
then im definitely siding with celestia
better to nuke 1 continent than to nuke a whole universe
and in that case
aether is doing this of his own free will
not brainwashed
he wants to play hero
and if celestia is what dictates destiny
then it makes sense that hes 'going against destiny'
digital crane
~~And explains nothing to MC anyway ~~
static atlas
dains ran off before he said anything to mc
and aether wants to be cool mysterious hero
and didnt say anything
what if
the mc and their twin are actually from honkaiverse
what if theyre the killers that the honkai sent out
gleaming acorn
static atlas
then it makes sense that the other twin wants to nuke the rest of teyvat
bc their mission is to destroy teyvat
while mc doesnt remember shit
digital crane
What if siblings are parts of Kiana soul?
static atlas
dont think so
queen furnace
Everyone thinks that Celestia is the real bad guy
But what if... we’re the baddies
static atlas
kiana sealed one of the twins
so its unlikely
honestly
if we go off the honkaiverse theory
celestia is actually right in protecting teyvat
queen furnace
celestia is actually right in protecting teyvat
That’s the thing
If Celestia is right in doing what they’re doing, and if Teyvat is just filled with normal humans and demigods...
Then the real villains are the ones trying to ruin the balance, which is one of 3 options:
- Fatui going too far
- The twins themselves
- A power even higher than Celestia
digital crane
and 4th: all of the above
ivory eagle
A city of human without gods has already made countless mecha weapons.
The gods may see it as a threat or jealous that they prosper without the aid of any gods.
queen furnace
But then what’s even higher than Celestia... I think the webtoon showed something about it, Vanessa looked shocked at what Celestia was like.
Maybe Celestia is it’s own level of world with it’s own version of a god-city
It’s an infinite cycle of things being just out of reach for those who are “enlightened”
static atlas
this is too bigbren
crisp whale
I often wonder - you know how there's some sort of construct, like a castle, in the sky? Still don't know what that's about
static atlas
thats celestia
queen furnace
Yeah the city in the sky is known to be Celestia
They’re also the ones who dropped the skyfrost nail on Dragonspine
crisp whale
And story-wise, what is Celestia? Basically, the realm of the gods, A.K.A. the Seven, right?
Or are there more gods beyond just the Seven. There used to be, during the Archon Wars, but they all died, like for instance the Salt Archon, right?
orchid sinew
if the sky island is celestia then what is the place we first see when we arrived in teyvat? with all the white pillars and clouds
queen furnace
Celestia is basically where the gods are created and live in
The archons descend and live in Teyvat
crisp whale
So archons are just the gods that descended to Teyvat
queen furnace
if the sky island is celestia then what is the place we first see when we arrive...
Current belief is it’s Celestia
crisp whale
Is there any known criteria by which it's decided who goes to Teyvat and who doesn't?
queen furnace
So archons are just the gods that descended to Teyvat
They’re the gods that won the war and ascended to archon status
queen furnace
Is there any known criteria by which it's decided who goes to Teyvat and who doe...
The manga expands on this a bit, Vanessa ascended to Celestia
weary oriole
are the cutscene dialogues always the same regardless of your mc?
I have loomean as my mc
orchid sinew
Current belief is it’s Celestia
I feel the same but, like... Celestia being a sky island, A limited area in the sky, oh but also it's this huge ass cloud area with floaty pillars everywhere kinda bothers me
weary oriole
mihoyo you hacks, why invite the need for retcons
being woken up by the sibling, seeing the cataclysm, being there in Khaenriah...
plain spruce
can i ask about the story here?
ivory eagle
being woken up by the sibling, seeing the cataclysm, being there in Khaenriah...
So...both siblings were awaken inside the meteor ? mc sibling woke up afew years later ?
north jewel
I didn't get when they mentioned the meteorite thingy in the latest quest, is it related to the quest when we met scaramouche? (I uninstalled genshin at that time)
queen furnace
What it implies is;
- Both twins land in Teyvat
- Abyss twin wakes up before the other, explores the area (learns stuff about Teyvat), finds playable twin and wakes them up
- Both get to Khaenri’ah, settle there for a while, become close with the people there
- Cataclysm happens, the twins try to fight alongside the ruined city, they lose
- In desperation the twins try to flee to another world through Celestia, the Unknown God fights them and seals abyss twin first and playable twin second
- Abyss twin is immediately sent back to Teyvat to watch their friends die and the city crumble
- They set up the abyss order with the help of the now-monster-form citizens of Khaenri’ah, and Dainsleif (a friend of the twins from back then) runs away because he disapproves of their methods
- Playable twin gets sent 500 years in the future, and we start the game as we see it
weary oriole
So...both siblings were awaken inside the meteor ? mc sibling woke up afew years...
it makes no sense
it is a massive plot hole
but they can save it
queen furnace
being woken up by the sibling, seeing the cataclysm, being there in Khaenriah...
Falling from the meteors and being awoken by the twin =/= being awoken 500 years later
weary oriole
actually it is a good risk, so far the narrative was too safe
but if they are not good writers, they shot themselves in the foot
queen furnace
Based on how I understand it, the sequence of events makes a bit of sense
weary oriole
this story has like 1000 words on a good day, and they still managed to make a massive plot hole
queen furnace
I really don’t see this plot hole
weary oriole
it is not technically a plot hole
because there is no "plot" yet
it is just a hole
queen furnace
Okay, I went back and read what you’re claiming to be a hole
I disagree completely
It can be easily explained by the fact that both twins had already explored Teyvat before Khaenri’ah went into ruin
- Sibling wakes up MC
- They explore the world together
- They get to Khaenri’ah
- Cataclysm begins
- MC gets put to sleep during the war
- Sibling wakes them up and they try to escape Teyvat
- Unknown god stops them and we see the first cutscene
- 500 years later <Unknown force> wakes up MC
ivory eagle
I think they retcon both sibling explored the world to only one of them. Otherwise this line makes no sense.
nimble cliff
- MC lost their memories
queen furnace
I think they retcon both sibling explored the world to only one of them. Otherwi...
I think they’re implying that MC and Abyss twin explored the world before it became corrupted by Celestia
And now they want us to see the true extent of how bad the gods are
crisp whale
Is the new Archon quest the only indication we have that the two twins spent any amount of time at all in Khaneri'ah?
ivory eagle
very vague...
crisp whale
I'm looking at the intro cutscene for the game and the earliest event in this chain that I'm seeing is them trying to move on to another world but being stopped by the unknown god
feral moon
wait why does ur twin call u by lumine/aether :0
crisp whale
It's never specified that they tried to escape to save themselves, either
ivory eagle
Yes...that's why it is being retcon by this new quest
ocean pumice
wait why does ur twin call u by lumine/aether :0
thats the official name of the twins
crisp whale
And all we really know is that the Abyss twin formed the Abyss Order and is trying to destroy the Seven Archons, due to a belief that they are evil or something
feral moon
thats the official name of the twins
but paimon calls you by whatever name you chose like the dialogue after?
crisp whale
If so, then we obviously have history with Khaeri'an, whose people are also the Abyss Mages, Heralds etc.
ocean pumice
but paimon calls you by whatever name you chose like the dialogue after?
paimon never calls our name by voice, only text
feral moon
paimon never calls our name by voice, only text
yeah that's what I meant, your twin says it in text
ocean pumice
oh, prolly, something the developer looked over 😂 🤣
feral moon
digital crane
but paimon calls you by whatever name you chose like the dialogue after?
Probably because there's a few writers that doesn't give a shit about self-inserting
ocean pumice
prolly cuz its weird for ur twin to call you by "traveler" as well lmao
ivory eagle
That's your true name. The one you give for yourself is a fake maybe due to (memory lost).
mellow drum
its just typical gacha game trope
idle arch
also traveller really gets the worst luck huh
first they get stuck in a meteorite for 500 years
then they get woken up and get sealed in a cube almost immediately for another 500 years
queen furnace
It’d be weird for the sibling to say nothing in the voice over
So they went with the next best thing I guess
idle arch
I mean they could also say "brother/sister"
ivory eagle
I mean they could also say "brother/sister"
Might be too embarrassing infront of their enemy like dain
Incase dain does not know they are sibling. They can use it as their advantage for their own goal.
idle arch
dain 100% knows lmao
he also seems to be well acquainted with the other sibling before this
ivory eagle
well abyss sibling just found out you are teaming with dain
That's why their first question is "why are you with dain ?"
idle arch
yeah but they've also seem to have a deeper connection with dain outside of being enemies
dain itself is more of a pet name
rancid zealot
Man paimon needed to shut up and let the brother and sister interact with each other
idle arch
also theres something else that I found interesting
ivory eagle
Also abyss sibling does not seem to care about paimon....guess she is nothing but emergency food afterall.
idle arch
the traveler didn't miss the portal, they actually touched it but passed through it instead of entering it
and the light that was emitted seemed similar to the power that the unknown god was using
rancid zealot
Also abyss sibling does not seem to care about paimon....guess she is nothing bu...
Needed to be eaten when we fished her out day 1
plain cedar
So wait
If i not wrong
||Dain was albe to get in dimension gate or something at the end of new archon quest ?||
modest osprey
So wait
If i not wrong
||Dain was albe to get in dimension gate or something at ...
||Yes he was||
austere gull
No need to spoil this is already a spoiler channel lol
plain cedar
Idk since someone probably enter the chat without playing new quest lmao
austere gull
I hope not
plain cedar
Dain in action is cool tbh
But why we can't get in that dimension thing lol
empty tide
because plot
empty tide
also, imagine making Mihoyo design an entirely new area to accommodate us being able to enter the gate
plain cedar
Good one,i didn't expecting about Dain was immortal
ivory eagle
maybe you need the abyss power to enter
rancid zealot
Dain in action is cool tbh
But why we can't get in that dimension thing lol
Idk maybe you need some deep Khanarian knowledge
Mc cant read shit
plain cedar
Lol
idle arch
alternatively an outside power is preventing us from interacting with the portal
digital crane
Since Dain can,why can't we
That would make everything too easy
empty tide
he was either too slow, or the gate required abyssal power as Dain has shown when he searched the Ruin Guard
plain cedar
Anyways,mecha Osial
Do it mihoyo
empty tide
Cybernetic Squid God
idle arch
when the traveller passes through the portal you see a red outline around them
rancid zealot
"TrAVlEr uSe ElMenTaL siGhT"
idle arch
similar to the Unknown God's power
north jewel
first they get stuck in a meteorite for 500 years
When did the story mention this?
ivory eagle
i'm still wondering how did the abyss get osial parts deep under water
idle arch
might have misread it but they got stuck in the meteor for some time
plain cedar
i'm still wondering how did the abyss get osial parts deep under water
Ask hydro mages
rancid zealot
When did the story mention this?
I wanna know too
The first cutscene was just them flying around
for intro* never mentioned
what they were doing
idle arch
and the sibling got out before we did
north jewel
I was off in genshin for a month when dragon spine and scaramouche came
idle arch
that seems to be when they travelled and met dainself
rancid zealot
AH
plain cedar
And wait,Venti's voiceline mention that we used to meet him while ago
rancid zealot
so you got this info today as well
idle arch
yeah
empty tide
they weren't stuck in the meteorite for hundreds of years, it's just that the sibling woke up and got out first when they landed
north jewel
that seems to be when they travelled and met dainself
When the MC touched the dandelion?
empty tide
Dain and the MC at the end of the quest:
idle arch
no dansleif has strongly hinted that he travelled with the sibling at some point
digital crane
Dain and the MC at the end of the quest:
You forgot start of the quest and "let's find out what treasure hoarders are planning"
empty tide
lmao
idle arch
they were planning to fucking die
empty tide
You forgot start of the quest and "let's find out what treasure hoarders are pla...
it's "We'll be borrowing your items, Pervases. We promise to return them later" all over again
north jewel
I'm still confused, I remember dain never mention meteorite
plain cedar
Since I hate mihoyo's plot
Here's what i could remember lmao
- the MCs traveling through the world and got stuck and somewhere and both of MCs were trapped inside something idk,the other MCs awake first and saw khaenri'ah getting destroyed am i right
empty tide
the timeline goes:
-500 years ago-
Twins arrive on Teyvat inside of meteorites
MC's sibling woke up first and surveyed the area
MC's sibling saw Khaen'riah burning (shown in the We Will be Reunited video)
MC's sibling returned to the sleeping MC and told him/her about the world being up in flames
They decide to leave
gets blocked by Unknown God
-500 years passed-
the present
weary oriole
to be fair it doesnt make much sense. The other MC cares about Khaenriah and the Abyss but how did she develop those emotions if she just "woke up and surveyed the area"
empty tide
the sibling also got trapped in a cube, and we don't know how they got out
or when they got out
lyric vale
The outlines were red
empty tide
*The outlines were red*
security gate goes bzzzt
lyric vale
When they entered
violet blade
Maybe the unknown god let the earlier sibling out
empty tide
for what reason though
plain cedar
Well Dain use some kinda of his ability to get in
weary oriole
or when they got out
it requires them getting out somewhere between 500-and now
lyric vale
They didn't have red outlines
empty tide
it requires them getting out somewhere between 500-and now
yeah, so that's a lot of time to fill in (and the sibling also had time to travel with Dain back then)
enough to form connections with Khaen'riah's survivors
idle arch
alternatively sibling stepped out of the meteorite earlier than we think
and they went on an adventure to figure out how to wake us up
weary oriole
it makes more sense
north jewel
Soo, the MC sibling wake up the MC, then decided to leave, but blocked by an unknown god.
The MC sibling wake up after she got caught, while the MC wake up in 500 years after the event?
weary oriole
they should have lived in Khaenriah for some time
otherwise why would she even try to take revenge for them
idle arch
they met with dansleif then and right as they figured it out the razing of khaenriah happened
empty tide
alternatively sibling stepped out of the meteorite earlier than we think
considering how their parting words to Dainsleif was something about them being tired, I'm... not too confident that they spent their time with Dainsleif before the nation fell
weary oriole
idle arch
at the very least the sibling was awake long enough to understand the sitution
weary oriole
Dains could tell she was tired, that requires some connection
idle arch
so "right before traveler woke up" isn't the correct option
empty tide
we don't really know where they landed either
weary oriole
yeah, I think the other MC was awake on lived in Khaenriah for some time
enough to develop love for thier people, and get salty when they got btfo
empty tide
"Imma leave my sleeping sibling in the meteorite while I live in Khaen'riah lol"
uhhh
idle arch
which is why my theory is that they didn't know how to wake traveller up
weary oriole
bo be fair
idle arch
and went on a journey to figure out how to do it
ivory eagle
More like mc sibling woke up during the fall of khaen. This cutscene only show one of them. The other is still sleeping in the metorite.
weary oriole
Paimon said that our MC was woken up by the sibling
we don't say that
what if out MC was woken up by someone else
idle arch
we do, paimon just repeats it for the player
weary oriole
maybe not in that case
empty tide
why were they even asleep
digital crane
empty tide
Dain didn't specifically mention the Seven
weary oriole
paimon is the spokeperson, but it can also be used to trick the reader with unreliable informations
shrewd reef
It was the Celestial Divine
empty tide
though their connection to Celestia makes it about just as bad to him
north jewel
Next quest : Assassination of lord Barbatos
empty tide
don't worry guys, we won't be having any dialogues with them to address this anytime soon
digital crane
Next quest : Assassination of lord Barbatos
Slaughter all archons and gods just like you slaughtered millions of hilichurls
shrewd reef
This somewhat suggests that Celestia feared competition and thought Khaenri'ah is succeeding without them so they destroyed the civilisation because they don't want to be surpassed by some mortals
empty tide
it's not that simple
Khaen'riah is not innocent
remember the coded message among the Ruin Guards in Dragonspine?
they tried to overthrow the gods
neither side are blemish free
north jewel
Wait the numbers can be translated?
weary oriole
Sal was more ancient than Khaenriah tho
weary oriole
the world was nuked numerous times by celestia
kheanriah was just the last one to go
empty tide
Sal's case was also similar:
they kept trying to go against Celestia (with good reason), but all of them started the aggression
ivory eagle
well...something happen to celestia cause it falling now....with every new update it gets closer.
weary oriole
Celestia in game is a cardboard cutout
empty tide
^
shrewd reef
We have a total of three sides, one fighting for humanity, for gods and for revenge
weary oriole
and Dains
lone flare
dain is in humans side
empty tide
I could argue that the Tsaritsa is also fighting for humanity
but we still don't have confirmation on that
weary oriole
no Dains is opposed to Celestia, Tsarisa and the Abyss
empty tide
it's just that Dain also hates the Archons so he's not gonna ally himself with the Tsaritsa
weary oriole
I thought Abyss and Tsarisa were on the same team, but they are not
north jewel
remember the coded message among the Ruin Guards in Dragonspine?
Khaenriah allying with the nation in the dragonspine, both got nuked :v
lone flare
no Dains is opposed to Celestia, Tsarisa and the Abyss
and he is with humans
weary oriole
and he is with humans
there is no "human faction"
empty tide
Khaenriah allying with the nation in the dragonspine, both got nuked :v
nah Khaen'riah was just about to be built back then
Dragonspine got nuked first
ivory eagle
I thought Abyss and Tsarisa were on the same team, but they are not
I really want to see fatui vs abyss it will be a great battle.
shrewd reef
Abyss Order is motivated by revenge while Dain avoids it which is why they transformed
north jewel
Oh so it's a different period of time and different nation :0
weary oriole
Oh so it's a different period of time and different nation :0
Khaenrai was 500 years ago, Dragon spine has ruines from much earlier
I think pre archon war
shrewd reef
Celestia preserving status quo for dominion and power over man
empty tide
Dragonspine's incident might've been what caused Khaen'riah to be built in the first place
hence the "no gods for our nation" motto they had
weary oriole
it makes sense that some refugees from DS founded Khaneriah
empty tide
not sure if there are any refugees though
because only Imunlaukr could make his way out
with the sword
weary oriole
one is enough
empty tide
but I guess the citizens who were already outside when the disaster struck would've been able to spread the news
shrewd reef
There's a reason why Tsaritsa decided to rebel against them, to challenge the status quo
weary oriole
also it is not clear where Khaenriah exactly is. We know it is underground somewhere, not in Teyvat continent
ivory eagle
I kinda understand Dain prospective on the giant venti statue. It's like the people workship barbatos and what did he give in return ? "hehehe big nothing freedom hehehe".
empty tide
Dain's views are relatable, but we must also keep in mind that he's biased (for justified reasons)
blissful jacinth
I mean supposedly venti shaped the land and made it favorable to live in right
digital crane
Also i think he also helped to rebel back in Lawrence days
blissful jacinth
And then effed off
empty tide
I mean supposedly venti shaped the land and made it favorable to live in right
if you watch the Venti character video, you'd realise that he outsourced that part to the Four Winds
ivory eagle
Venti trailer kinda show he gives the work to the 4 winds and he does nothing
empty tide
Also i think he also helped to rebel back in Lawrence days
he did, but he woke up to enjoy the festival
he didn't really wake up to help them because he sensed a crisis
he's pretty ass as a ruler
weary oriole
Dain's views are relatable, but we must also keep in mind that he's biased (for ...
Dains is also and absolute cringy fedora tipper
empty tide
yep
cedar field
Venti trailer kinda show he gives the work to the 4 winds and he does nothing
He was technically like a father, he helped the nation grow after the war then left once he knew they were mature enough to survive on their own
empty tide
didn't he leave right after he outsourced his work?
empty tide
I am at the part where he is being cringe and refusing to go inside the church
"UGH, GODSSSSS"
digital crane
All my (non-existing) homies hate gods
cedar field
~~didn't he leave right after he outsourced his work?~~
Oof but hey he gives credit in his character story, he admits that the anemo archon isn't to be given every credit
shrewd reef
Not having control over land can make a god very weak
empty tide
UHM GODS BAD
at least he is sensible enough to remind us "don't fight the gods, bro"
so he has a good head on his shoulders at least
weary oriole
yeah, he goes full fedora sometimes but he is good, for now
cedar field
So Dain's technically terrified but also not terrified of the God's
empty tide
he knows that he can't really beat em with what he has now
north jewel
Oh yeah, when did the story mention that we arrived to teyvat via meteorite?
empty tide
Oh yeah, when did the story mention that we arrived to teyvat via meteorite?
in the quest
cedar field
in the quest
Yeh "woke up in a metorite"
blissful jacinth
Give the man a break he’s lived >500 years and is jaded out of his mind 
north jewel
Which one, the first or when we met dain?
timber kelp
empty tide
either Paimon recapped what we silently said to her, or we said it when we met Dain
shrewd reef
Both the OG Archons are rather stubborn to outright oppose Celestia
empty tide
Zhongli's already started though
by giving his gnosis away in a deal with the Tsaritsa
and from what we've seen, it seems the gods can't go against their nature
Zhongli is hellbent on fulfilling contracts, and Venti is Venti
digital crane
Venti is typical drunkard of Monstadt
empty tide
the epitome of Freedom
shrewd reef
Both are rather indifferent with the status quo compared to the Tsaritsa who is outright challenging it
north jewel
Both the OG Archons are rather stubborn to outright oppose Celestia
I remembered venti was kinda scared to tell the traveler about celestia (in the manga)
crisp whale
Something about Venti's character makes me believe he is incapable of feeling angry
empty tide
Both are rather indifferent with the status quo compared to the Tsaritsa who is ...
if the Tsaritsa's nature is truly "love", then it makes sense
but we don't have confirmation on what sort of god the Tsaritsa is at the moment
cedar field
I remembered venti was kinda scared to tell the traveler about celestia (in the ...
Hesitant is a better word I think
crisp whale
One way or another he's either a bundle of happiness or of random wisdom
empty tide
he's like the wind
north jewel
Hesitant is a better word I think
Yea
empty tide
whimsical
cedar field
I remembered venti was kinda scared to tell the traveler about celestia (in the ...
Boy dodged the question like how I dodged my grades
empty tide
"Ehe"
north jewel
Boy dodged the question like how I dodged my grades
He even dodged his work 
ivory eagle
he's like the wind
A pervert wind. Look at mona voiceline for venti.
empty tide
he just retaliated against Mona trying to peek into the secrets of the world
ivory eagle
By removing her clothes O_O
cedar field
To be fair girl insulted his line of work
shrewd reef
Her ideal is unconfirmed, though it used to be love some would suggest it's rebellion which is what she is doing
crisp whale
That actually makes me wonder if the gods will try to intervene and break up her attempts to figure out the truth of the world
cedar field
Freedom 
shrewd reef
Venti thinks Albedo is rather suspicious
ivory eagle
well, Venti isn't stopping Albedo
More like he can't do much now that he lost his gnosis.
empty tide
he knows what Albedo's looking for, and understands the source of all life
oh but he can
he's still a god
and Jean knows him
ivory eagle
Lazy god. Will give jean or someone else to do it.
cedar field
despite knowing what he's doing
In all seriousness he probably just said that to divert the topic
Like bro prepared a full on poem to warn us
empty tide
which was basically "I triumph over you"
mellow drum
still dont know why tf kaeya act the way he did during windblume
whats the point of your poem
cedar field
I mean it's part of a battle song but is it confirmed that it actually mean "I triumph over you"? Because it makes no sense
Like what does Kaeya wanna say
weary oriole
Just finished archon quest, think kaeya is also an immortal?
ivory eagle
he knows what Albedo's looking for, and understands the source of all life
i mean....wolf was getting brainwash by the abyss herald and where was venti ?!
cedar field
Just finished archon quest, think kaeya is also an immortal?
I mean he was once a kid
So no?
mellow drum
he was a child thrown into diluc family
empty tide
Venti's probably hanging around in a bar while it happened
cedar field
Oof
digital crane
Well, maybe he means that he has a better life than Venti or he wants to kill Venti
mellow drum
i guess he didnt turn into monke when he was born somehow
digital crane
its really shadier than Baizhu
empty tide
I mean it's part of a battle song but is it confirmed that it actually mean "I t...
the hilichurl language translation page indicates that, at the very least
shrewd reef
kaeya was the only remnant of royal descent
weary oriole
Cant wait for Kaeya to level up to main character
empty tide
also, I've been told that the EN localisation has once again robbed us of a very simple plot tease once again
when Lumine told us about her fight with "Destiny", she used this character: 天理
Which is also the same one used when referring to the "Heavenly Principles" in the "Sustainer of Heavenly Principles"
and the "Divine" in the trailer
they kept translating it into different words
ivory eagle
a.k.a the unknown god ?
cedar field
Wait then the message "FATA E PARCEA" makes sense
"FATA E PARCEA" is the translation of the message on top of the Abyss mage when we killed it with Dain
cedar field
Yeh latin
Fata and Parcae were also referred to as the "powers of destiny" so yeah lol
weary oriole
Ah
weary oriole
Latin I’m assuming
yes
So like
The goddess of luck and things like that
Oh nevermind
the parcae were in a way, the absolute gods of the greek and roman pantheons
Yeah
even Zeus/Jupiter feared them
idk if yall talked about this already but did anyone notice that lumine called us aether anyway? even if we didn't name him that
empty tide
yeah I noticed
weary oriole
im assuming its the same with aether calling her lumine then
empty tide
oh no
weary oriole
where it turned out that we didnt name the character but like the first human or whatever? i dont remember
idk either translation error or a clue
what did she say in other languages
to be fair I think our name in canon is Aether/Lumine regardless
this is the first time it was actually said, for some reason
weary oriole
to be fair I think our name in canon is Aether/Lumine regardless
yea i know
fallen arch
wild spire
Yea but are we aether/lumine?
weary oriole
😳
wild spire
You have a point on that, and that's so interesting
weary oriole
But who is aether? I only know traveler, honorary knight, and the name I gave the traveler
one thing that annoyed me is that aether didnt talk AGAIN
literally sees his sister and doesnt talk hello???
Nah let’s go home
wild spire
Ah why it was deleted? ;;
weary oriole