maybe rhinedottir made them by herself
#・genshin-spoilers
slender haven
When he becomes playable 
Surely
slender haven
maybe rhinedottir made them by herself
She may have been contracted by the King
Rhine sounds like she has an inferiority complex to Hroptatyr too
slender haven
So maybe he was also a Khemia master and he did it instead
Since he was one of Irmin's top guys
modern bluff
inferiority complex huh? i saw it more as jealousy
which i guess is kinda inferior complex
slender haven
inferiority complex huh? i saw it more as jealousy
That too
modern bluff
but she also seems prideful and recognizes how much of a fucking slime he is
licking boots and kissing ass to get what he wants
far from a morally upright person
rhine doesnt strike me as the type of woman to be like that, while hroptatyr seems to be the perfect fit
no wonder she griped a lot about him to albedo
slender haven
but she also seems prideful and recognizes how much of a fucking slime he is
Takes one to know one
They're both slime in various ways
If their positions were reversed she wouldn't care
Might be partially why she's become "satisfied" after becoming a Shade
She's in a position of power now and is fine with it
modern bluff
and also not mentally insane
bruh rerir really got the short end of the sinner stick huh
dude immediately killed himself and suffered for more than 500 years
slender haven
bruh rerir really got the short end of the sinner stick huh
I mean he was by far the least ambitious out of the 5
He doesn't really need all that strength
modern bluff
its funny how compared to the others, he seems almost
tacked on
in a sense
not that im saying that he is, theres no such thing as coincidences in genshin and fate is a fickle mistress that works in mysterious ways
but its funny how very little he can be compared to the others, which is why i think hes gonna fight back
so thoughts on this diagram of the false sky/eggshell that teyvat is in?
personally i didnt know the sun in teyvat was a projection but im not even surprised
slender haven
but its funny how very little he can be compared to the others, which is why i t...
I mean he himself says he's different from the others when he meets up with Dain lol
modern bluff
I mean he himself says he's different from the others when he meets up with Dain...
Oh I know lol
But like just looking at it in the bigger picture
Damn bro does not fit in at ALLLL
get him OUTTT
he needs to be with normal sane people and go to the club
outer kraken
personally i didnt know the sun in teyvat was a projection but im not even surpr...
The sun being able to be seen through the firmament makes sense
It's basically just a solid atmosphere
To the outside atleast
distant citrus
Ibis king was a moon envoy lol
distant citrus
Yes
And the envoy was like a job post basically for all 3 moons not just one
And there were multiple envoys for moon two being confirmed aka zibai and ibis
Who?
Also she wasn't an agent
Oh that's interesting
Again this morning stars as in plural smh... They're intentionally making it confusing
Treading upon morning star already makes it that way
But what exactly is the true nature of this star we don't know...
Could it be that all the stars we see in the constellation?
Aka the stars among the fate?
Are they what morning stars represent?
That would probably make it make sense because fate is clearly PO domain
So PO using the morning stars to create the fate/constellation
Could be real
And treading upon morning star would fit too as he took over and created the fate system using them...
That would be time aka history
Actually we don't know it's their source
Koitar saying "...should morning star fade away" could also mean fate system collapsing
It can we can literally see the constellation made up of stars in the false sky
The stars are there
Just like how moon is very real
An actual celestial body
So can the stars
Why else would they use plural term..
Not really
It looks that way because you're assuming the morning stars to be angels source but as I said the remark of koitar could just be for fate system not themselves
The stars within the constellation/fate has to mean something
We already know PO took control over such stars
So morning stars fit it very well
No tree is where memories are stored not the actual stars or false sky
That's simple light energy
But we don't know the true nature of it...
It could be that tree uses the morning stars too it doesn't change anything about morning stars themselves
Tree being used to manipulate fate doesn't mean the star in the sky are part of the said tree
Otherwise you're saying every person who gets affected by tree is part of it... That's not how it works
At least so far it doesn't
distant citrus
I was saying the stars on false sky are similar to how fake moon was wrt real moon
So PO could have used morning stars to create his own fake stars which he used to bound the fate of humans
Yeah but we'll see what true nature is of those stars yet
That could be the case with stars too then assuming this theory holds true
Like remember how humans give part of their souls for vision? Maybe they are creating their own fake stars then which in turn bounda them within fate no?
It would actually fit with causality too
So take for example surtologi fate
The fate said one person will defeat him
And then that person aka skirk came much later in time (basically in future time) and became part of such fate aka created her own star in false sky thereby closing the causality...
Food for thought
No ved says so his fate is as such
That's fate only
gray raven
zibai is peak
distant citrus
Not skirl but surtologi
Skirk acted as closure for causality of fate
Destiny bound to "this" world... send discipline "here"
Implying the world in question is teyvat
True
modern bluff
LMAO
apt description
ved whole description there contradicts each other yet also makes sense
even if he doesnt have a constellation or whatever (not bound to any system of fate) hes inexclicably related to teyvat no matter what
that is his origins after all
and also, theres an irony to him going outside to the dying sea of stars finding the WoL to his Zenos
only for them to be at home all along
gray raven
zibai is truly peak
modern bluff
yea i figured no one wouild get the ff14 reference
modern bluff
yes
gray raven
or is she still technically an angel
modern bluff
i dont remember if she pulled out the horns/headpiece
gray raven
i don't think angels need to have horns
only case we have is nabu
maybe zibai's head piece were her horns then
she might be different from the other angels
plus she directly rebelled against the HP
not many angels did that
she has wings in her skill
also a crown
and i realised
in her burst for a brief moment there's 3 of her
she does
use her skill
wdym band
it's her crown
do you have zibai
wdym didn't like her
she's peak
fake lore fan
there is horse noises
@ashen ocean
fraud
you should change your mind and pull zibai
she's a former angel after all
there is a noise
better than nicole
it's not a physical object
it's a manifestation of her power
listen to it again
she is
nicole only helped bring a moon down
zibai delayed a celestial nail
that's not true
given nicole didn't literally face a divine nail
fake genshin fan
zibai is more powerful than nicole
pull zibai
you know you want to
craggy mist
lmao this lantern rite quest. "where's the horses? where's the horses mihoyo?"
Zibai: "have you ever seen a horse?"
Traveler: "I have, but not here."
craggy mist
Hmmm. 
Feeling like he's the "fragment" of the solar chariot that remained in Liyue.
the artifact lore is very clear it's not anything actually in the Chasm anymore. 
well, possibly.
It's just this lore is very specific about it suddenly getting active again during the Archon War.
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Records_of_Jueyun#Vol._6
Legend has it that when that nameless star fell, a fragment of it broke off and crashed into the rocks in northern Lisha.
certainly points towards the vault
I just never want to trust a "legend has it"
but who knows.
Oz had nothing to do with with Inazuma persay, it was creation magics Alice shoved into stories to make it more believable sounding until a girl managed to wield it.
Yeah but Liyue is the region where Guoba and Zhongli got conflated for a while.
What you haven't heard of the god of cooking Morax? They had to have Ping add an addendum about it during Moonchase event.
2.1 was a crazy time.
golden sluice
2.1 was a crazy time.
wasn't that in 2.4
@ashen ocean HP are the ones who destroyed the moons so Nibelung can't use their power right
craggy mist
wasn't that in 2.4
no 2.4 was lantern rite
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Moonlight_Merriment
Guoba event was Moonchase in 2.1
golden sluice
no 2.4 was lantern rite
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Moonlight_Merrime...
yeah ik, I just remember 2.4 was about Guoba
my bad
golden sluice
Guoba event was Moonchase in 2.1
yeah I remember now
craggy mist
I mean it was still a Liyue festival event 
golden sluice
I see
oh okay makes sense
also
was langgan on fire because of the abyss or because of the moon remains that fell on it?
back when I first saw this image I genuinely thought Nibelung was the one who destroyed the moons
the moons were destroyed and then we saw langgang on fire and then the nail dropped in the cutscene
that's why I thought it might've been on fire because of the moon remnants falling
in the cutscene
yeah
they just showed the moons getting destroyed
no no
they showed them destroyed
and immediately after
they showed langgan on fire
so I thought it might've been because of the moon remnants falling
yeah
just making sure
damn so the HP didn't have a good reason for each nail like its defenders keep saying
what was the leyline ritual
I see
lean violet
My longstanding interpretation that only beings with a link to the moon can receive a moonwheel has finally received the last needed lore detail, since we now know Thoth is a lunar envoy
That gives us
Ineffa - Sort of an exception because she received an old moon wheel, but dragons are innately moon related too
Lauma - The Moonchanter of the Frostmoon Scions
Flins - Made of moonlight
Nefer - Her patron is/was an envoy of the three Moons
Zibai - Is a lunar envoy herself
I mean yes but see how none of the 4 stars have it and also don't have moon connections
The connecting detail is special moon link
So why does she only give them to some
This feels like a more convoluted explanation to me, you are free to interpret it that way but I can't agree
Ignoring that all the moonwheel owners have a non Columbina related moon themed past is imho short sighted
You can ignore it I just won't
distant citrus
Every one of them got it before they became friends with bina so the theory doesn't float
lean violet
I kind of doubt moon wheels only exist in the current generation, they were likely given during the years Columbina was a Harbinger too
lean violet
I kind of doubt moon wheels only exist in the current generation, they were like...
If they weren't I feel the game would have emphasized how odd it is they only stared appearing in recent years
distant citrus
Friends theory still doesn't float as not all her friends got the wheel
lean violet
Yes but just like visions there's multiple things that go into it
Even if you match the moon criteria it doesn't mean your fate etc. is aligned in a way that makes a moon wheel manifest
Just like people can have personalities/experiences that match a certain vision element, but not all people of that type receive a vision
cedar juniper
So the first deadly self was in prison on the fake moon
The second deadly self was cursed(ig its a means of saving her) in perpetual stasis and could only possess people
And then there's the third deadly self which was free to do whatever the fuck
How is that fucking fair 💔✌️🥀
distant citrus
Ineffa is hardly closest to her she's the same as aino
If anything arle should have gotten it too by that extension
Yeah so friends theory is moot
5 star are not story relevant lol it's a game mechanic
Close friends and somehow it excludes the actual close friends
That's changing the goal post lol
lean violet
Again just because you meet the criteria that defines which kind of moon wheel/vision you get doesn't mean you will get it
Like the element of a perspn's vision is somehow tied to their personality, goals, desires
But even if we define what type of personality is needed for an electro vision, does not mean every person with that personality gets an electro vision
Now apply the logic to moon wheels
To be able to get one, you need some intimate connection to the moon, but not everyone with the moon present in their life gets a moon wheel
Even if you meet one qualifying criteria you still need to actually be a person overall considered worthy of a moon wheel/vision by the system in place that grants them
cedar juniper
I think you guys are digging an empty hole
Those who are worthy get the moonwheel/vision i dont think there's much more to it
distant citrus
Ineffa is as relevant to columbina as aino is
Yet she has moon wheel
Friends theory is full of holes
Not to mention it's already been noted that vision ( and I assume moon wheel would work in similar principles) does not care about archon/god permission
It only cares about users ambition
So being friends with said gods is irrelevant to begin with
It's not
cedar juniper
Not to mention it's already been noted that vision ( and I assume moon wheel wou...
I thought the authority holder had some influence?
distant citrus
Both use the same principles as noted by 8th lord
distant citrus
I thought the authority holder had some influence?
Archons don't have a say in it they have to part away little piece of their authority to grant vision
"...The Source Servant sent has retrieved the suspicious sample from the detritus of the humans who instigated unrest at Ek' Pulinik. According to the local subjects, the sample is referred to as a "Vision" by merchants from beyond Natlantea...
...I briefly discussed its operating principles with the Third Lord. She put forth an intriguing hypothesis — that this sample may be in some way related to the ritual items at Nephilheim...
Further experimentation has verified the Third Lord's hypothesis. Just as with the ritual items of the north, this "Vision" is formed from the stuff of the soul."
I don't know don't rely on wiki all the time... It's not always accurate
lean violet
I would like to note that Nefer's whole Moon Wheel story in her profile focuses on Thoth's link to the moons
For it all to amount to nothing and it's all because of Columbina is just unlikely in my interpretation
distant citrus
The only difference between moon wheel and vision is that former is made up of pure light while later is based on elements (something the dragon lords considered tainted)
But the principles remains the same aka stuff of souls and all that
Which is ambition related
cedar juniper
Moon sisters say the elements and their "moon magic" is basically the same thing
distant citrus
Elements are just broken down 7 colors of light type thing
golden sluice
wait wait
does Zhongli know Zibai way before the archon war?
and they didnt elaborate on it?
lean violet
And there's imho nothing wrong with that
Realistically every human qualifies for some vision too, since 7 different personality/ambition categories is a lot and should cover just about everyone
But that doesn't mean everyone gets it just because they fulfill one criteria
cedar juniper
Crimson moon was a corpse its more abyss than moon
lean violet
To be fair the crimson moon was only channeling the abyss at that stage of its lifecycle, it doesn't necessarily count as a moon
distant citrus
Wdym arbitrary?
It was a pact made between the people and moon goddess against the order
It wasn't random meaningless act
You don't know that
Just like not everyone gets vision
You're assuming stuff that doesn't exist
Nowhere it says that
Making a pact with moon doesn't mean they decide who to pick
It could just be a system like how vision is
And 8th Lord dialogue already confirm the principal is the same
lean violet
It could still count, but because only Nod-Krai had the necessary kuuvahki, everyone who would have gotten a moon wheel instead got a vision, the next closest thing
The moon wheels channel kuuvahki, but if the land has no kuuvahki it can't form into a moon wheel either, this tracks
distant citrus
Again nowhere it says the goddess themselves pick and choose who to give the wheels
Just that they made a system that sevres as a pact between them and humans
The same way how vision works wrt archons
At the end of the day it's between humanity and not just any individual
cedar juniper
They're both light realm energy gng
lean violet
The vision and moon wheel systems are separate, yes, but they probably look for similar types of "remarkable" individuals, so if a person that should have gotten a moon wheel fails to do so due to lack of moon activity in Teyvat, the vision system probably would have their eyes on them too and hop in to instead give them a vision
cedar juniper
And giving ppl visions/wheels started with HP , it shouldn't be any different
distant citrus
Yeah and that pact is similar to vision stuff in principle
cedar juniper
Since yknow , people didnt exist before HP
lean violet
Again why do you keep acting like it's always only 1 criteria
cedar juniper
Kuuvahki came to be at the war of funerary flame
Zibai probably got hers before that and nefer and others got it after
So its probably nothing to do with kuuvahki
lean violet
Again why do you keep acting like it's always only 1 criteria
It's not just a connection to the moons or just light realm energy or just being a special individual deemed fitting by the system
It's all of them at once
lean violet
It's not *just* a connection to the moons or *just* light realm energy or *just...
Just having a past related to the moon isn't enough, just living near pure light realm energy isn't enough, just being a special person isn't enough
Your circumstances have to match all
cedar juniper
For one, its gameplay reasons and two you are NOT the deciding one gng let the gods pick whoever the fuck they want 🙏
distant citrus
"Just as with the ritual items of the north, this "Vision" is formed from the stuff of the soul. Theoretically speaking (...) is fixed through wishes, thereby borrowing (...) to call forth elemental power...
Is this why Visions have recently been appearing alongside human wishes? "
It's all the same anyway
They all answer to the human ambition
lean violet
Linnea is a fae, if she has a moon wheel then it's over for the "they have to be Columbina's besties" theory
distant citrus
Nope bina doesn't do anything
It's related to the location which is nod krai and then the ambition of said human
lean violet
We'll see
distant citrus
Bina Or any moon goddess would part their authority thr same way archons do
In fact bina wouldn't even know who got the moon wheel
cedar juniper
Everyone pales in comparison to the GOAT kazuha who wielded two visions
distant citrus
Because that's where the light energy flows
Moon of course
No specific moon it just moon
The light energy of the moon aka moonlight
That's it
And because it's purer form of elements that's why it supercedes the vision in that area
Not to say vision don't occur there
lean violet
@ashen ocean esrlier you said conditions for moon wheels have been met elsewhere, provide examples, then
Where are people with links to the moon, living among pure light realm energy
distant citrus
Is that why zibai got her moonwheel during the war? Was she also friends with bina?
lean violet
Yes so provide examples as to why my conditions don't work, supposedly
Which moon related person lived in light realm conditions and didn't receive a moon wheel
distant citrus
Bina was reborn frost moon goddess and as with any moon authority holder she would involuntary give the moon wheel
It's the same case as vision
The game already established as such
Oh well....time to clock out
cedar juniper
What does the primordial sea have to do with the moons
lean violet
You fail to include the condition that these people would kind of have to also be considered valid targets for visions, I doubt many if any moon wheel havers wouldn't get visions otherwise
Someone like Rene who never got a vision is unlikely to ever get a moon wheel either
distant citrus
I don't know man...
I already pasted the whole principles behind vision and moon wheel being the same but you're just ignoring that so 
Game already tells you what you want to know
Anyway...
lean violet
You fail to include the condition that these people would kind of have to also b...
For these sorts of passive gifting systems to work you have to be a special person in a unique way
distant citrus
Sigh... 
Whatever you can read ineffa moonwheel story again I guess
lean violet
That is a very shortsighted view
Again, comparing to visions, even if your temperament matches the vision's element, doesn't mean literally everyone of that personality gets that vision
They still represent a fraction of humanity, because there is a deeper requirement than just that
lean violet
That is a very shortsighted view
Again, comparing to visions, even if your temp...
If matching your ambition was all these systems wanted, then every human would have a vision
Since 7 categories of ambition should include everyone
The same principles apply to a degree because we are working with the assumption that there is a passive system in place
cedar juniper
Well unfortunately the game wants to sell the nodkrai characters
I really dont think there's anything deep
lean violet
These thousands of people couldn't even get a vision, I ain't believing they had potential for a moon wheel either
distant citrus
Yeah and vision is given by archons so what's the point?
Again it doesn't say they chose who would get it...Smh
That info is just not present...
And then read what it says afterwards too
The stuff of souls and humans wishes that remain the same
craggy mist
hmm, cross Bune off the list I guess. 
lean violet
Inb4 another reused moon wheel so it doesn't clarify shit😭
gray raven
thoughts on this year's lantern rite?
slender haven
Nibelung must have dropped them when they were babies or some shit
She was the only one who knew the answer to 2 + 2
Columbina gassing up the Moons
The real wisest
Technically he was made from water too
Since he was nurtured by the Primordial Sea
Yeah the new artifact set says it
Yeah new artifact set mentions it
It isn't
Doesn't make sense
That planet's sun blew up
Teyvat still has a sun
So dead
It had a supernova
So essentially fizzling out
Or it becomes a black hole
It collapses
And becomes a black hole usually
Either a black hole or a white dwarf
The ship encountered the sun as it became a white star and started cooling down
Really big stars become black holes when they supernova while smaller stars become white dwarfs
White dwarfs are essentially just small suns that progressively cool down over billions of years
gray raven
i love how the difference of each heavenly self is threefold
It's reflected in the music too
each domain has a different kind or style of music
modern bluff
holy argument on moon wheels bruh
is not that deep
hoyo devs decided "ok random ass 5 star released in nod krai, u get a moon wheel now"
i dont think even bina knows shit about it
same way archons barely do anything with distributing visions directly
theyre just filled with human wishes/ambition at the barebones minimum
all other circumstances aside can be tangentially related or not
dont rack ur brain over it man its just the devs giving exclusive rarity
yeaaa
the bina lore is wibbly wobbly timey wimey.... stuff
bina is not doing allat bro 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
theres never gonna be a complete definite set of conditions to fulfill to get a moon wheel thats up to the devs to bullshit their way through with their writing
just accept that
i dont even think its reliant on the or a moon goddess anymore
its just
magic
wowwwww
✨ ✨ ✨ ✨ ✨
see just blame the writers/da wei for this stupidly vague ass arbitrary system of conditions to fulfill to be playable
once dain and rerir and people who use the abyss become playable then its the same old argument all over again
ah yes a sinner can use the abyss
and also this random ass 4 star
not even gonna bother bruh who care
thats why i dont ask and i accept it for what it is
helps me sleep better at night
they'll explain the morning star i think
Not the giving out moon wheel/vision/who gets to be playable condition
With all due respect bro
ur on copium
Its ok I am too but for different reasons
I mean
Remember when we were finding Bina's name through old Frostmoon Scions records
And some of the legends of bina were just simple shit
Her making a bird nest was interpreted as like something grand
But in reality bina wanted to help people out and make friends
Its just like that
Divine beings just trying to do mundane shit and being misinterpreted as something more
When its not that deep
Idk if u dont like the direction of storytelling for that or not but it is what it is
Some things are serious
Others are not
Fair enough
But its what the writers chose to do to explain certain things
And we just gotta accept that even divine beings can yknow
Fuck up every once in a while
Arent perfect
rerir and tholindis getting high together would probably be a better outcome than what happened in canon
🤭
Jk anyway
well we wont know till they delve into it further
Just take what we have rn
At this point u just gotta trust in the devs writing to create reasonable conclusions
And this is why im glad shaoji isn't on the genshin team
holy
Damn anyway
gray raven
dottore's fate might not be revealed till snezhnaya tbh
gray raven
how is it odd
gray raven
Ziju domain; melancholic and somber
Zizhi domain; somber, melancholic and regretful
Ziqiao domain: this fucking banger
https://youtu.be/GawcrlfoXfo?si=R6N0Y7rGwVagMr5r
distant citrus
It doesn't matter the process remains the same as it calls to human wishes
Columbina never once mention if she choses the individual for the wheel
Every single story is moon wheel appearing out of nowhere just like vision...
distant citrus
The reason for enhancing was to be able to use elements to begin with...
This passage otoh is saying they used lunar powers to enhance their already existing magik (I'm assuming this magik to be manipulation of elements or it could just be mekinos that were powered by lunar powers)
So just an example take aino's canon it uses lunar energy
Then it talks about the side effects of using such power and that was growing horns
Like one lauma has
Zibai got her when the moons already shattered and war ended during the celestial nail fall...
But it's alright I'll just take what the game lore says so far instead of speculating for now
It works with the same principles as vision so it makes sense for them to answer the ambition/wish of humans and as we already know vision selection is based on human ambition not on choice of one's who's parting it away so I'll assume the same for moon wheel until future lore tells otherwise
She got it when the nails were dropped
That happened after the war ended
You can see the cutscene too where moons were already shattered and then the nails dropped
Ye and since frost mook was still there I'm assuming the authority came from that
Yeah
As i say just like vision moon wheel are also automated process
They gets active when human ambition goes certain level or something
Exactly why it Choses certain ambition over other it still a mystery
That will have to wait unless we get another moon wheel like ineffa did
Which I doubt we'll get
At least not for now
Frost Moon already replaced the place in the sky
Part of the reason why fake moon started to go away
Oh you're talking about zibai
The moon was still there and it took a while for Canon to die so it still makes sense
She doesn't need to as I said it should be automated process like vision
She just had to share small part of her authority for a wish
No no it was because it was still the past
She was still the frost moon goddess in the past
It's only in present when columbina took over
Remember the triline authority was only shared inside the prison?
It wasn't until columbina revived in the present that she became the weilder of such authority
The past didn't change
They transferred it inside the prison not outside
They say so that it'll only work inside the prison
They didn't die because they left the prison they died because in real world their moon shattered and they were sent back because they wanted to live their last moment out in the real world
Frost moon didn't shatter but it was sent far away so it took some time for canon to die as the world rejected her
That's mostly also the timeframe when zibai got her moon wheel because the frost moon as well as it's goddess was still alive for some time
It's also worth noting that all 3 only came together in present which allowed columbina to come back
But the past remained because causality so trilune didn't take effect until columbina came back to weild the authority
Other fact to prove that previous moon sister authority still worked (even after they died) is that the marrow still allowed dottore to weild the lunar authority
distant citrus
The authorities were always there
Trilune didn't take place until columbina revived herself in present timeline and took control
The past timeline didn't change as I said everything still happened
Dottore using the marrow is already proof enough
No he got the full lunar authority
Also trilune is different from normal lunar authority
It's combined authority of all 3 something superior to individual authority before
And also the individual authority vanished the moment columbina came back and took control over trilune which affectively made existing authority moot
I think the confusion arises because people are thinking trilune authority always was in effect but that's not the case
It's only when columbina comes back that she takes over the authority in the present timeline
In the past up until she comes back the authority of 3 sisters(or via their marrow) still was in effect as past didn't change as I said because of causality
Dottore welding the lunar authority is enough proof
You can read the boss description when the fight starts for more details
The weekly boss I mean
"The authority bestowed by the marrow of the three moons enables the Heretic of the False Moon to bend the world's order and set forth prohibitions. "
Here you go
I'm not saying he did
I already made distinction between trilune and moon authority of 3 sisters
I'm saying the trilune didn't came into effect until columbina arrived in present
And when she did...
She became the sole owner of said authority...superseding the normal authority that dottore took aka the one he got from marrow
An analogy would be that you're misusing your adminstator privilege until head adminstator arrives
distant citrus
It being hidden in frostmoom itself is giveaway
Because the moon was far away nobody could detect such authority until it was brought back within the firmament
And even then it had to be columbina herself who could use such authority because only she was the trilune goddess
Probably but if you want to think other way it could also be that the authority was sent to present day timeline
Either way it doesn't affect the past as it only mattered for the future self of columbina
distant citrus
Yeah just that trilune is superior I guess
I do wonder if we'll ever get a character that holds moon wheel and was alive between 6k years when all 3 sisters died and 500 years ago when columbina was born...Probably not
Although if vision wants archons to be alive then it goes that moon wheel would want moon goddess to be alive too...
Eh whatever
@ashen ocean say is there any story leak about next update? Like are we really going to Mond just like that?
Alright
Yeah but I doubt we'll get any such character to proof this hypothesis
long crest
lmao
distant citrus
Yes but such throne has to be ruled by someone
So when focalar vacated neuv took place
It should be same for lunar throne then which needs to be ruled by someone
But we know between canon death and columbina birth nobody held lunar throne authority...
long crest
hu tao when she gets a bill for 200 morbillion mora after zhongli buys some neato trinkets
distant citrus
I need hu tao in my life too
Yes probably because that's the only lunar throne still intact
long crest
wtf does linnea do man
im curious now
what if she made her own
shes a life scientist
distant citrus
We'll see but i doubt we'll get detailed info of that
Every wheel story goes the same as vision story
They just popped out at some point in their life
Except for ineffa but her case is similar to kazuha's friend vision
long crest
my guess rn is this:
Linnea is either a lcr or superconduct support
But lore wise shes definitely Sandrone's way to get reborn
WAIT
what if sandrone's rebirth is actually becoming fully human
rather than a machine
linnea is a life scientist, who is also an advisor to the adventuring guild
and we now have the founder of the adventuring guild dead
has bina tried?
oh?
which dialogue / text?
trilunar thing can probably do that, but not currently while the shades are in charge
like anya says in durins quest
the forces governing life and death are the most unyielding*
ronova wont allow it
HP is mimirmaxxing rn
ronova can at any time change those rules within the rule framework, like she did with the curse of immortality
she can bend the rules according to her powers
only thing stopping her is the threat of punishment by PO
ronova has absolute authority over death rn
she has the control card
but PO doesn't permit just anything
but if ronova went rogue, she could absolutely change everything on a whim
hence
when bina tries to revive sandrone and gets: Request Denied
distant citrus
Ronova has authority over curse of immortality because she's then one who casted it
The reason she didn't revoke it is because that would trigger paradox
long crest
it is Ronova being like nah girlie
we literally see her do it
again like
power is not the bottleneck
distant citrus
We don't know but the authority over curse is hers only
Pierro confirms it that the curse was her doing
distant citrus
Yes
long crest
but she just doesnt want to
distant citrus
They are but only when it comes to fate
But otherwise they have their own domain authority
long crest
power is absolute
permission is not
but permission doesnt mean she cant do it, it just means that if she does things shes not allowed to do, she'll get chokeslammed
and ronova is nothing if not dutiful
we see that time and time again, shes literally the thing holding the fort together rn
source on that?
the sinners themselves are still cursed
distant citrus
No it's already explained that it would trigger a paradox
Two rules would come into conflict
Rule 1 - take the souls in exchange for giving her power
Rule 2 - curse of immortality
LoN by using Cap as source of souls for rule 1 put Ronova into a predicament
If she accepted his souls that would trigger paradox as he's immortal
And so Ronova had two choice..
- Break her rule 1 which she did as otherwise it would trigger paradox
- break her rule 2 which she chose not to do
long crest
blatantly untrue
rerir is literally stuck rn
rhine is stuck as well
we do
she is literally told by naberius in her mind that she must obey
and rhine obeys
she doesnt want to
but she does, for that is their deal
the only one who has escaped teyvat is surtalogi
in large part because of the nature of which power he mimicked: space
the curse is what keeps his soul alive
kuvaahki is what keeps his current body intact
bros soul got shredded into a billion pieces
still survived
inert and dormant
but still alive
cedar juniper
Thats why he's the blasphemy against death
long crest
it's blasphemy against death but also curse of immortality
cedar juniper
The abyssal authority he has rivals death
long crest
bro has redundant immortality
long crest
The abyssal authority he has rivals death
all we've seen so far is that the sinners have local authority only
they are able to skirt the rules set by the shades around them
yes, locally around their beings
i keep telling you this
cedar juniper
all we've seen so far is that the sinners have local authority only
Yeah i dont think they rule over it but they're not restricted by their respective anti-shade
long crest
the difference between sinners and shades is scale
distant citrus
She could but that would allow souls of pure blooded khanerrians into the Irminsul something they don't want for some reason
long crest
the ship is op and the shades have access to the control panel directly
and the sinners have merely reverse engineered parts of the control panel for their own beings
cedar juniper
I think shades > moon sisters bc HP usurped who governs the rules
long crest
nah it's omega op
it's 1 tiny ship against the whole planet and it still won
if that's not op then what the hell is
lmao
long crest
I think shades > moon sisters bc HP usurped who governs the rules
moon sisters were using dragon tech while shades were using ship tech
cedar juniper
Yeah it could be something else than the ship ai
cedar juniper
Tbh nibelung lost because he was probably just weaker
long crest
PO kindly telling nibelung to sit the fuck down
distant citrus
They said Nibelung didn't teach them about order that's why they couldn't do anything
As for PO for some reason he figured out this order and took over
cedar juniper
long crest
She could but that would allow souls of pure blooded khanerrians into the Irmins...
yeah i very much buy into the idea that the abyssal contamination of their souls was actually dangerous to the leylines
so it was less punishment and more of a good way to prevent further contamination
distant citrus
Ngl we really need more details about whole shades business... Wake the fuck up Phanes
long crest
we do know a fair bit about how strong the shades are now
we've seen istaroths power at work
distant citrus
No I'm saying that's literally the dialogue that Nibelung didn't tell them about the order so they couldn't do anything
cedar juniper
Columbina has so little feats it feels criminal comparing her to shades
See i don't think that's true
distant citrus
Tbf they are his shades only so some restrictions would be there
He probably gave them seperate authority but not something that would undermine his own
cedar juniper
I think shades are noticeably stronger
long crest
the shades are by far and away the most powerful
the only one we know is somewhat close is Alice, since she has actively been recruited by the shades to help out
cedar juniper
I think she'd be like a sovereign if we're comparing
distant citrus
It's like how Nibelung gave the will of the planet over to the moon sister but never taught them the order
Yes he's descender after all
Someone special
cedar juniper
the only one we know is somewhat close is Alice, since she has actively been rec...
We still don't know what the fuck "borders of teyvat" really is
It could the continental border
Like the dark sea or sumsht
She's not tho
The shades are what rules over fate
Like dottore even could've been faking the whole "i rule over shit" bc his whole spectacle was in one of the hollows he created
long crest
We still don't know what the fuck "borders of teyvat" really is
i always assumed it was the false sky
the shades lack authority over space right now with asmoday's absence
so alice was recruited to help shore up this massive weakness
cedar juniper
And shades are "the heavens will"
cedar juniper
i always assumed it was the false sky
Could be
Like dottore ripped the sky open
And she was elsewhere
So could still not be
long crest
it's very clear the hexenzirkel are insanely strong tho
nicole was able to PULL THE MOON DOWN
like
that's not even the strongest hexenzirkel witch at play btw
but she, with some prep help from alice, was able to pull off that gargantuan feat
it was such a feat that zhongli's wish to revive zibai who he has been trying to do for 6000+ years was actually doable now
because of it
cedar juniper
nicole was able to PULL THE MOON DOWN
Tbf she was more like a catalyst for varka and arle or vice versa but still cool
long crest
Tbf she was more like a catalyst for varka and arle or vice versa but still cool
nah, those two were conduits for her power
nicole is the key here, not varka or arle
cedar juniper
Do we even know what happened
long crest
varka and arle are chumps without her
we see nicole effortlessly win against dottore too btw
cedar juniper
Hell she could have even willingly given herself to rhine
long crest
when dottore is literally trying to stop time to trap nefer, nicole is STILL FASTER
and manages to save nefer
and thats dottore with tri lunar authority
either dottore is a chump (which it doesnt seem like)
or nicole is op af
no, he was in the bubble with traveler
he had all 3
cedar juniper
Again, she could've just given herself to rhine for whatever the fuck reason
long crest
nefer does her spying, gets caught
then nicole cuts the connection
rhine and naberius are likely working together btw
they signed a pact most likely
naberius was in need of a vessel to move about, and rhine was wounded by bakunawa
long crest
and the shades crucially needed naberius at full strength, so my guess is they let the merger happen for that reason
it would explain why the others are ok with rhine randomly having "usurped" one of their friends
cedar juniper
Yeah everyone is chill about rhine being a shade even naberius herself
long crest
yeah
long crest
Yeah everyone is chill about rhine being a shade even naberius herself
that would not happen randomly
there is no way ronova would stand for that level of corruption
if it wasn't already allowed
yeah naberius also seems dutiful
depends on how it happened
do you rly think Ronova would just let a sinner eat her friend and then not fight over it?
this was negotiated and allowed
because the shades are weak rn
and they needed naberius at full power
rhine would get absolutely demolished
but
a wounded rhinedottir facing down the literal god of death?
shed get destroyed
however
no im saying ronova would not even have allowed rhine to approach naberius
regardless of how it went down:
PO sleeping, Asmoday gone and Naberius crippled means Ronova and Istaroth were running on fumes at best
they were really weakened
cedar juniper
Also rhine was a blasphemy before merging she probably just healed herself
long crest
bakunawa bit her
it was a bad wound
either way
rhine and naberius likely merged voluntarily and with approval from ronova and istaroth
because the roof was falling in
and they need the manpower
cedar juniper
Albedo talks about "i knew she would do eventually" so idt it was a decision on a whim
long crest
ronova doesnt like how rhine operates, but tolerates her presence
"pls dont litter other people's spaces"
also istaroth is up to a lot of weird shit ngl
what is she plotting
cedar juniper
Istaroth just loves ppl she's goated like that
cedar juniper
Literally the only shade who helps ppl with no debt
long crest
i loved how istaroth spoke in the trailer
cedar juniper
Ranova gave the ode of resurrection and fuck ass "repay it with a life so grand"
cedar juniper
And then you have istaroth helping enka , zibai , mondo , inazuma fucking
long crest
"There is no need for guilt. And no place for hope." bro
cedar juniper
It was HP most likely
cedar juniper
Not naberius directly
long crest
btw
cedar juniper
Was that istaroth
long crest
notice this
cedar juniper
I thought it was another fragment of binas soul
cedar juniper
In the cutscene bina says "a part of my soul i leave here (says this while in the prison) to guide my future friends (the golden trails and her being able to influence actual reality) "
The golden trails and the feathers and shi
Nah
Its just tholindis opening it
She opened it with abyssal power
long crest
wait wait wait wait
what if
what if zibai's sacrifice is actually what spurred istaroth on to defy PO over time?
im not sure but she did seem to care at least a little bit about zibai
enough to explain to her that shits about to go down
also istaroth having ventis voice
is still so fucking sus man
venti who are you rly
cedar juniper
I still think its stupid that her third deadly self was just free to do whatever the fuck while others were in stasis/prison like what was the point of the curse bro
cedar juniper
also istaroth having ventis voice
That definitely has some meaning
cedar juniper
He could be the nahida to israroths rukkha
long crest
istaroth cannot be seen openly defying PO
so maybe she created venti for that purpose?
cedar juniper
Dottore impact 🥀✌️
long crest
this is istaroth we're dealing with
girlie is nothing if not patient
and scheming
she has all the time in the world to enact her plans
cedar juniper
I did NOT read the rising winds arti set lore can i get a tldr 😭
Whats this about nameless bard and istaroth connection
cedar juniper
Wow that's pretty cool
long crest
mont esus 
long crest
pure chance except the literal shade of time and stories was overseeing things
"Istaroth is the best shade." - Istaroth
cedar juniper
Arcadia is dead as fuck
Well ig so was sal vindagnyr
I want more like byakuyakoku
That shit was so peak
"Heavens star zhongli" and we're not getting an explanation for this for at least another two years 💔✌️
I mean he created all the humans and gods alike
long crest
Source?
cedar juniper
Again splitting one's self into other versions is something present almost everywhere in teyvat
Its just a recurring theme
Fucking hell the eleventh dragonlord split herself
So its not even a PO only thing
Dragons can do it too
slender haven
Zhongli, the one male character Hoyoverse likes
Still has less muscles than Varka
And still won't get a skin before some random fuck ass four star
Yeah
But he'd look cooler if he was taller
cedar juniper
Nowhere here implies anything more than splitting one's self into entities
Yeah the splitting has a name like most localised things
She couldn't even do it at first because the whole point of deadly selves is to sever the imperfections and hone one's true self to be more pure
And she couldn't do it because she was an angel , an already pure life form
Only when human emotion and thought set root in her heart she could form her "impurities"
slender haven
Also when Istaroth gave her a Moon Wheel no?
I haven't read her lore too closely though
Yeah she was appointed an envoy of the Moons earlier
That's when she started having feelings and shit
cedar juniper
The constant reoccurance of this concept is probably a reference to whatever PO did , be it shades or paimon, but i dont think this particular case is anything oh so different from the other times we've seen it happen
modern bluff
tholindis here being next to all these playables and being compared to the moon goddesses is wild
also why the fuck is her design so similar to them
like huh
you mean the hair ornament right
yea theyre all similar shapes to the ones the moon sisters wear
like girl where did you even get that from
ineffa makes sense
linnea we dont know enough yet
ineffa may belong to nod krai but spiritually i feel shes more closer to natlan lmao
craggy mist
Could even be Columbina because she did the whole time travel plot. 
craggy mist
Columbina existing at all points of time for 6000 years or whatever allows for infinite time crimes writing. 
like the entire 6.3 quest was literally "every unexplained thing that helped us was Columbina"
WE CAN GO FURTHER 
modern bluff
if bina was an omniscient omnipotent moon goddess being that granted moon wheels for whatever reason would that stop you from going insane
tawdry blade
Could even be Columbina because she did the whole time travel plot. <:A_HuTaoDer...
Possible..
But it was only her past so
Hm
Nvm
craggy mist
she just needs to make a lunar wheel and cast it to sea in this case, so...
tawdry blade
Bina saw us struggling so she gave ineffa moonwheel
craggy mist
It's such a minor thing we may never have an answer, or they may want to do something different, but then again we're also now getting more Zhongli backstory, so anything is possible.
If the boss ids are to be believed, somehow, someway, we need to get back to the time prison and fight Rerir again.
which means more time crimes
modern bluff
HATE YOUUUUUUUU
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
IMMA CHOKE VEDRFOLNIR IF HE SHOWS UP AGAIN
(which is very soon btw i sure hope his 2 lines have something substantial)
slender haven
(which is very soon btw i sure hope his 2 lines have something substantial)
He probably had an encounter with Roland
modern bluff
He probably had an encounter with Roland
He definitely had something to do with Roland
slender haven
He definitely had something to do with Roland
I wonder what Roland seeking the Spiral Abyss means
modern bluff
Considering thr last we know about him he went off and died fighting monsters in the Abyss/khaenriah
Well
Died is a way to put it
We're not even sure if he is dead technically
But now hes back after 500 years
slender haven
We know Roland is seeking justice against Celestia
And that the spiral in the Abyss has been seen by people who have ascended to Celestia
slender haven
Considering thr last we know about him he went off and died fighting monsters in...
Him dying is probably just the story people thought happened
When in reality he took on the Abyss' power
modern bluff
I wonder what Roland seeking the Spiral Abyss means
Ive held the theory that the CM people were using the Spiral Abyss somehow and its probably one of their ways of trying to transcend fate
Their own Tower of Babel, in a sense
Us going down to floor 12
For them, the opposite is climbing up
But as you know if u read the Bible, the tower of Babel never gets completed bc God makes the people speak different languages
slender haven
Ive held the theory that the CM people were using the Spiral Abyss somehow and i...
Why CM?
Well I guess there is a moon there
But it isn't anywhere near Khaenri'ah
Skirk also traveled there
modern bluff
Why CM?
Well I guess there is a moon there
I need to find the exact evidence and its like 2am for me but theres evidence from the wiki that imply it was the work of the Crimson moon dynasty people and not the Eclipse
slender haven
This might sound crazy but I wonder if Roland has anything to do with Phanes' dormancy
slender haven
I need to find the exact evidence and its like 2am for me but theres evidence f...
There is an an illusion of a moon there
Though we know Khaenri'ah had it fingers in a bunch of ancient civilizations
Like they tried to get knowledge from Enkanomiya
modern bluff
Spiral abyss itself is a weird place tbh
But we know the CM people were more focused on "magic"
To put it that way
While the Eclipse heavily focused on technology
Hence why the spiral abyss seems more like a CM dynasty era kind of thing
slender haven
But we know the CM people were more focused on "magic"
Alchemy at least
modern bluff
Yea
slender haven
Tsurugi intentionally throws the fight with Maru and gets slashed badly
Maru starts crying and freaking out because he doesn't want to lose another friend
Then it cuts to Dabura against Mahoraga after he figured out how to reverse his CT. Then Dabura gets like a telepathic message from something telling him how to use a barrier so Dabura uses a freaking Domain Expansion, which his home planet seemingly already had.
Then it cuts again back to Maru after where he's with Yuji talking on their space ship seemingly talking to "the oldest Kalyan" who the aliens brought with them
Maru then says he wants to remove cursed spirits from the world completely, causing Yuji to give him Yuki's research book on the soul saying that his older brother (Choso) and Yuki both wanted the same thing
So then somehow the Kalyan lets Yuji and Maru enter into the cursed realm where fucking Mahito shows up again, and after realizing Yuji isn't dead, immediately freaks out and becomes terrified of him. Though Mahito is also seemingly essential to whatever Maru's plan is.
tawdry blade
Yuji is gonna be the next gojo or
gray raven
New Lantern Rite Album is here
cedar juniper
@ashen ocean dude i was watching a playthough of the aq and bina literally confirms what the golden trails were 😭
no not lounnotar thats the fragment she left in teyvat , the one she's talking about here is the golden ways which lead her and made her influence the real world
in the moon prison
yea we had a talk about it yesterday and i came across it
i also forgot they played aurora version of the main theme
pretty cool
slender haven
Yeah idk how Dabura is going to beat him
cedar juniper
huh gretel's an npc
Where's this from
golden sluice
@slender haven 6.6 weekly boss 😭 😭 😭
slender haven
<@1233903177406087169> 6.6 weekly boss 😭 😭 😭
Feels fake ngl
golden sluice
ah wait
slender haven
look at the source
Who are they?
golden sluice
Who are they?
a leaker with a pretty great track record and the same one who leaked 6.3's weekly boss
slender haven
a leaker with a pretty great track record and the same one who leaked 6.3's week...
Hm
Still though
slender haven
hxg confirmed it further
Damn
I'm still gonna say it's wrong though
Would be funny if Dottore lost again however
golden sluice
Damn
I'm still gonna say it's wrong though
it's more than likely right
FSC has a track record of more than 90%
slender haven
it's more than likely right
The devs aren't gonna waste Rerir's boss fight in 6.1
It's going to come back
slender haven
he might basically be using Rerir's remains
Maybe Rerir possesses him and takes over his body
golden sluice
that's cope
slender haven
that's cope
Nah not really
slender haven
Rerir gotta come back somehow
golden sluice
I mean
slender haven
We need his boss fight again
golden sluice
there's still Rerir remains
slender haven
- drip marketing
slender haven
he's using those and Rerir comes back later
He already tried using them
Man only had 2 ideas
golden sluice
he used them to bring Rerir back
now he's using them to make a puppet or something
who knows
it's gonna be peak anyways
Rerir becoming the second weekly boss doesn't make sense anyways considering his writing in 6.3
slender haven
Rerir becoming the second weekly boss doesn't make sense anyways considering his...
He could be testing us or some shit
Or he gets corrupted by the Abyss again
tawdry blade
makes sense,considering trilune cant lift a shade restriction fully, no wonder dottore go for the abyss this time
nicole is in sumeru too btw
6.6 is her banner
Are we gonna get a Zibai moment
nicole bouta pulled a feat like zibai
cedar juniper
As much as dottore 2: endgame is funny af
Fullstop has been on a fraud watch ever since the first nodkrai leaks
So keep that in mind
golden sluice
So keep that in mind
since when did u start seeing story leaks
cedar juniper
since when did u start seeing story leaks
They posted it on #・current-beta-tc and i just clicked automatically 😔
modern bluff
BROOOOOOOOOOO
golden sluice
I used spoiler alert on mine specifically because I know you're here
modern bluff
WTF LMAOOOOOOOOOO
cedar juniper
B-BAKA
cedar juniper
kisses you gently
golden sluice
*kisses you gently*
https://tenor.com/view/shy-anime-girl-mohime-mohime-mohime-blush-anime-girl-gif-12489989600468279437
modern bluff
take a dose of copium with me
golden sluice
give me
golden sluice
I'm happy about the news but Rerir's lowk top 3 fav chars for me
modern bluff
i dont fucking know
golden sluice
i dont fucking know
💀
cedar juniper
Ig there are still remains of his body in teyvat
modern bluff
but based on his writing he doesnt wanna be a villain anymore
and bina knows hes like
sane and conscious now
if dottore is gonna be as powerful as a sinner and even more bina might enlist his help to fight back
fire with fire
ALSO WHERE THE FUCK IS DAINSLEIF
DAIN HEY MAN WE HAVE A PROTO SINNER RIGHT HERE
golden sluice
I don't think Bina will be involved this time
I think the AQ is gonna be in Sumeru
modern bluff
oh it is
but idk it kinda feels like a bad taste in my mouth that rerir is STILL being used again
and he wont be able to do anything about him
so i feel narratively they should give him an out
golden sluice
awit
wait
you're cooking
they realize they need Rerir to take control of his remains
and with Bina's help they get him out
tawdry blade
hes gonna come back to fight dottore and get his fragments back fully
and abyss twin appear and suck the power of death out of him
cedar juniper
Quick nitpicking since we're on the topic of rerir ; if his antagonism was actually gonna end after we jailed him , the climax fight we had in 6.2 feels so rushed and unsatisfactory imo
tawdry blade
he is now playable yaho
modern bluff
i think hell def be playable in the future he just needs a reason to not be a threat
and this is probably it
tawdry blade
i think hell def be playable in the future he just needs a reason to not be a th...
no abyss
it is that easy
golden sluice
Quick nitpicking since we're on the topic of rerir ; if his antagonism was actua...
it didn't even happen in 6.2 🥀 , it happened in 6.1
cedar juniper
Thats how ass it was
cedar juniper
Fucking nefer patch
golden sluice
no abyss
remove the abyss from the sinners of Khaenriah and they're not interesting anymore
modern bluff
i think hes still gonna have the abyss/be a sinner
nothings gonna remove him from that
tawdry blade
remove the abyss from the sinners of Khaenriah and they're not interesting anymo...
yeh but it never belong to them anyway, I mean the authority
cedar juniper
I think his story and the ending he got with tholindis "so close yet forever apart" is cool but the inbetweens were so ass ngl
We just one tapped this guy first try
Like sinner my ass
modern bluff
I think his story and the ending he got with tholindis "so close yet forever apa...
thats why they have to get back together again
tawdry blade
rerir playable is actually his son that somehow exist
golden sluice
they better not 🥀
modern bluff
no but i feel rerir has to come back and put an end to this cockroach
if they dont its gonna be kinda disappointing
tawdry blade
modern bluff
missing out on his own revenge
golden sluice
no but i feel rerir has to come back and put an end to this cockroach
im gonna put an end to you
modern bluff
at least if theyre in sumeru scara is here and he can finally do something
golden sluice
at least if theyre in sumeru scara is here and he can finally do something
oh true
Scara was underwhelming
in the NK story
tawdry blade
Guy
golden sluice
it gotta be in 6.6 yeah
modern bluff
yea so Scara can FINALLY do something
since he was being used as a ram stick for Sandrone's world formula
tawdry blade
Nicole summon mahoraga(Shade) and beat the shit outof dottore
cedar juniper
I thought scara was cool
golden sluice
I thought scara was cool
no confrontation with Dottore is still meh
modern bluff
yea
tawdry blade
for someone who can walk freely in irminsul, Im sure nicole know one of the shade personally like the rest of the big angel
cedar juniper
Fair
modern bluff
for someone who can walk freely in irminsul, Im sure nicole know one of the shad...
does she tho
besides rhinedottir
who would she know
tawdry blade
who would she know
istaroth
cedar juniper
Goataroth is a ppls woman true
modern bluff
TRUE
cedar juniper
She's just chill like that
golden sluice
My girl legit did fuck all
true, I still don't understand why they didn't bring her to the fight against Dottore
oh against Rerir too
tawdry blade
true, I still don't understand why they didn't bring her to the fight against Do...
her body is not made out of morax bedrock
golden sluice
and Nefer and Lauma are? 🥀
modern bluff
oh against Rerir too
the fact she tanked his attacks with her brigitta robot is still insane to me LMAO
okay girl i see why ur wheelchair team now
cedar juniper
Open for a HUGE jumpscare
golden sluice
Open for a HUGE jumpscare
modern bluff
Open for a HUGE jumpscare
modern bluff
Mechadottore
golden sluice
Mechattore*
modern bluff
im this close to calling him mechagodottore
cedar juniper
This is our flowmexikirksixsevenuinely
golden sluice
what the fuck did you just say to me
gray raven
inb4 weekly boss is dottore 1st phase but then for the 2nd he brings out a rerir segment then dips
slender haven
inb4 weekly boss is dottore 1st phase but then for the 2nd he brings out a rerir...
Or Rerir completely overcomes and takes over his body
Killing Dottore again
golden sluice
bruh is that all you wish for
golden sluice
inb4 weekly boss is dottore 1st phase but then for the 2nd he brings out a rerir...
I'm convinced the 1st phase is Rerir's fight and the second is Dottore's spin on it with Rerir's bs
that would explain why Rerir's boss has a weekly boss ID
slender haven
bruh is that all you wish for
No I just think it'd be funny
modern bluff
nicole cleanses dottore to free rerir
lowkey yea i been thinking
if dottore is gonna go all mechagodzilla on us, hows nicole gonna play her major part
we did see shes capable of making people strong enough to bring down a moon but what else can she even do besides aura farm as an angel
is she just gonna buff us again or do cool angel power shit
long crest
we did see shes capable of making people strong enough to bring down a moon but ...
just from what we see her do in the story, she is an incredibly powerful being
she did in an afternoon what zhongli could not do in 6000 years
modern bluff
i actually havent done the witches area quest with her (like the lightkeepers lighthouse with illuga or KOF keep with varka) so idk if she mentioned anything else there
long crest
same
but pulling the moon down was not varka or arle's doing
that was all nicole, they were merely conduits for her power
so my thinking is that nicole uses her buff on the traveler in the story
for some big story beats
gray raven
eron making stuff up now
tawdry blade
lol no
Nicole used her power on arle and varka as anchor to pull it down
it was all her power, you could call it was her buffing other but still her doing
tawdry blade
so my thinking is that nicole uses her buff on the traveler in the story
cant forget nahida
the archon are getting lore buff lowk
ei isnt here yet
oh was she channeling kuuvaki or other power?
distant citrus
lol no
If it was all her power then both varka and arle didn't have to use their own to ramp up in the cutscene...
That's like saying power of ronova borrowed by mav was all her own...
tawdry blade
If it was all her power then both varka and arle didn't have to use their own to...
well the thing is some people act like they can pull it down without nicole special power and that she only help increasing their power, but its both, so giving arle and varka credit for pulling it down is ridiculous to me
they played a part as the anchor which is very cool ig
distant citrus
If they are giving sole credit to varka/arle then yes they're wrong
But so are those who say it's all Nicole
long crest
If they are giving sole credit to varka/arle then yes they're wrong
But so are t...
The question is could Nicole do that feat if Varka and Arle were two other people?
distant citrus
The question is could Nicole do that feat if Varka and Arle were two other peopl...
Depends on whether the same level of power could be borrowed from anyone else..
But assuming she can then yes although I doubt there was anyone like that at that moment
Like varka and arle were probably the best choice for her power up
long crest
Like varka and arle were probably the best choice for her power up
How do you figure?
Isn't Varka allergic to kuuvahki
distant citrus
Because no one else took their place...