・genshin-spoilers

[tawdry blade]

Rooster

[golden sluice]

cz knowledge and wisdom and Irminsul

[slender haven]

The Harbinger never has the same element as their Archon

[golden sluice]

really?

[cedar juniper]

Le doctor is definitely hydro

His boss attacks are hydro

[golden sluice]

fuh no 💔

[golden sluice]

he also has electro

[tawdry blade]

Pyro and electro too

[cedar juniper]

Nono not the heretic form

The pleb doctor fight in his lab

That just has hydro

[slender haven]

I mean yeah
Tartaglia is Sneznahyan and has hydro
Signora from Mondstadt and has pyro and Cryo
Scaramouche is Anemo
Arle is pyro
Cap is cryo

[golden sluice]

that one uses light element like Deshret's robots

[tawdry blade]

Electrocharge combo

[cedar juniper]

do those apply any element i forgor

[golden sluice]

hmm then I hope hydro at least he'd be meta

[golden sluice]

nah

[tawdry blade]

Anyway,I don't want sandrone to be geo,because I dont want geo ineffa for zibai

[cedar juniper]

Then they aren't the same cuh

[slender haven]

Yeah I guess
Plus would be a good parallel to Columbina I guess

[golden sluice]

she won't be Geo Ineffa bruh

[gray raven]

snezhnaya will probably have non fatui playable characters

[cedar juniper]

Of course

[golden sluice]

wait he applies hydro in the first fight?

[cedar juniper]

Yeah

[tawdry blade]

Then she will be Navia but geo contruct spam

[gray raven]

i think we may get another dancer in snezhnaya

[golden sluice]

the parallel stuff is true I guess

[cedar juniper]

Or im delusional

[slender haven]

Wait shit then that would mean we have three hydro Harbingers lol

[golden sluice]

I think you're delusional

[gray raven]

does snezhnaya have dancing?

[tawdry blade]

3 moons

[slender haven]

Devs might not care though

[cedar juniper]

They have rasputin

The oprinchki dance

[golden sluice]

that's why I always thought he won't be hydro, I always assumed each harbinger will have a different element with the eventual abyss and light element but ig those won't happen

[tawdry blade]

They have train instead

Abyss light element cope

[slender haven]

We'll get Abyss element in Khaenri'ah
If any Harbinger has it it would be Pierro

[cedar juniper]

There aint no abyss element

[golden sluice]

idt Pierro would use the abyss ngl but

[cedar juniper]

Skirks bum ass sailed that ship

[tawdry blade]

We manipulate her body the whole time btw

[slender haven]

He could also be pyro I guess
Pale flame and all

[cedar juniper]

Yeah she was

[slender haven]

If he doesn't die

[tawdry blade]

He is dying gang

[gray raven]

i think snezhnaya has dancing

[golden sluice]

I saw people theorizing Dottore might be pyro because of the Irminsul burning and his contsructs in the webtoon had blue fire

[slender haven]

No

[gray raven]

if fontaine has opera

than i can see snezhnaya having ballet

[slender haven]

Maybe

[golden sluice]

wow I just realized

[cedar juniper]

Ig the omega build being hydro-esk doesnt mean his playable segment has to be

[golden sluice]

Snezhnaya will be hard for me

[cedar juniper]

Why

[slender haven]

Why

[golden sluice]

Pantalone Pulcinella Tsaritsa potentially Capitano, Dottore and Pierro

[tawdry blade]

The frostmoon deer also using her own body to give your team full energy,even funny when it is Columbina in team

[golden sluice]

that's a lot of characters to get

[cedar juniper]

"Pulcinella" OH BROTHER 💔

[slender haven]

Nod-Krai has already been pretty tough ngl

[golden sluice]

I want to meet another build bruh, give me the sigma build

[gray raven]

feel like genshin has been teasing ballet for a while now

[golden sluice]

he's in the travail trailer bro sybau

[slender haven]

The beta build

[tawdry blade]

Fontaine dont have it?

[golden sluice]

true, the only characters I didn't get are Nefer and Flins

[cedar juniper]

We , yes WE ALL, will be skipping his ugly ahh

[golden sluice]

I'm blaming

[slender haven]

No

[gray raven]

they don't

[golden sluice]

we? as in oui? the french word? oui oui je veux Pulcinella

[gray raven]

but they have been teasing it since fontaine

[slender haven]

Flins is one of the few I have lol

[tawdry blade]

The long nose and greedy baizhu is 100% playable with how hoyo is building their relationship as rival

[cedar juniper]

Flins is so cool

How can anyone not love his ass

[gray raven]

snezhnaya having ballet seems very possible to me

[golden sluice]

liked his gameplay but I had priorities so I skipped him ngl

[slender haven]

Yeah I understand

Wish I could get Ineffa for him but gotta save for Varka

[golden sluice]

Columbina isn't a harbinger anymore but I got Wanderer anyways so I'm getting her too

[cedar juniper]

Im also an avid harbinger and archon collector

[golden sluice]

I'm dry rn I'm probably getting him without his signature 🥀

[slender haven]

Got her cause I knew Hoyoverse would be really annoying about pushing her in Abyss and Stygian

[cedar juniper]

Thats crazy

Fake fan

[golden sluice]

kinda same, I wouldn't be able to clear fearless if I didn't get her

[slender haven]

Yeah I got Columbina at the start so thankfully all of the other primos in this patch are mine at least

[cedar juniper]

Imma get zibai too

[golden sluice]

me too but

I lowk want Zibai

get the clanker

[slender haven]

Yeah she's lowkey cool
Damn....

[golden sluice]

and Geo's my fav element 😭 😭 😭 😭

[cedar juniper]

The only characters i skipped since 5.0 are chasca mizuki and nefer

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-ride-let-it-ride-diem-gif-13460879079669063039

[slender haven]

I wish Illuga was free at least but nah

[golden sluice]

ifkr

bro

if u don't get you're cooked with Zibai

[slender haven]

Also has the World Quests dedicated to him

[golden sluice]

I skipped Mavuika Varesa Skirk Nefer and Flins

I'm an archon collector but I hated Mavuika way too much that I skipped her

[cedar juniper]

Based

[slender haven]

I got her but I'll never build until Capitano comes back
And I occasionally throw her off a cliff

[cedar juniper]

Fuck shituika

[golden sluice]

what

[cedar juniper]

Today is NOT opposite day

[golden sluice]

bro got her out of spite 😭

can't be me honestly

if I see Mavuika

I deadass get pissed off

[slender haven]

Begrudgingly had to maintain my Archon collection

[cedar juniper]

True

[golden sluice]

I broke it I really hate her that much

[cedar juniper]

Also icl cdc combo is so fun

[slender haven]

Goku actually struggles and is wrong at times so he isn't comparable to Mavuika

[golden sluice]

also her design is horrible

@cedar juniper bet you like the design don't you

[cedar juniper]

N-no

[slender haven]

I once typed a whole rant about why I hate her but the website glitched out and I couldn't post it
God had to hold me back

[cedar juniper]

The skintight leather onsie is stupid

But her jp va did such a great job

[golden sluice]

I posted a paragraph about why I hate her character once in FatuiHQ and mfs posted me in the Mavuika sub making fun of me

[golden sluice]

it's the zipper that bothers me

that fucking zipper

[slender haven]

Yeah they do that

[golden sluice]

lowk

Mavuika fans are insecure

[slender haven]

Most insecure fanbase ever

Or looked like a God of war
Dehya looks more like one than her

There is?

[golden sluice]

one of the reasons I didn't get her because of the massive powercreep she brought with her, I may not like Arle in the recent AQs but I'll always be an Arle truther and never get Mavuika

oh fucknatlan 😭

that was a funny period

they're not tho

maybe now

but before nah

[cedar juniper]

Wuwa is ass in so many ways you cant imagine but augusta looks so much more divine and cool than merysueika it actually saddens me

[slender haven]

How could she be self sacrificing if she didn't say anything when Capitano was sacrificing himself for her fuck up?

[golden sluice]

doesn't matter bro

crank up the glaze

we have an archon to sell

nah you know what pissed me off

after Capitano

and many Fatuus

sacrificed themselves

in the war

for Natlan

[slender haven]

Columbina's writing is far from perfect but she at least has a character arc
So she's instantly 5 times better than Mavuika

[golden sluice]

in the end she did nothing for them

and treated them like shit

[cedar juniper]

??

[golden sluice]

yeah I may not like certain scenes with Columbina and the traveler and how some stuff are inconsistent I still find her likeable a bit

[slender haven]

If she fights to keep her Gnosis I swear to God

[golden sluice]

but Mavuika? holy fuck

[slender haven]

I liked her a lot in 6.3

[golden sluice]

if that day comes

hoyohq better watch out

[slender haven]

Actually audibly groaned when she showed up in the 5.8 cutscene

Bennet will always be the true pyro archon

[golden sluice]

I liked some stuff some stuff I didn't, I still find some stuff inconsistent like how apparently it took her more than hundred years to know Dottore is a bad person

[golden sluice]

if you're talking about the resort

[slender haven]

Yeah

[golden sluice]

I skipped that shit

I skipped everything Natlan related post 5.3

[slender haven]

I played back in 6.0 I think
It was aight

[golden sluice]

except the AQs ofc

[slender haven]

Bennet lore was nice

[golden sluice]

the bennet stuff was nice

I liked it

[slender haven]

and Goatjou

[golden sluice]

but whenever another Natlan character especially Mavuika showed up I just skip

[golden sluice]

please be playable

[slender haven]

The real heroes of Natlan in the Cataclysm unlike Shituika

Shoved herself into fire for 500 years so she could steal the glory of two different eras

[slender haven]

I pray

[golden sluice]

never forget

the painting thing

at the end of the AQ

two days ago she said I just started to learn how to paint

genuinely what happened to the writing team in Natlan

[slender haven]

Da Wei happened

[golden sluice]

https://x.com/i/status/2014385746400977056

sel (@AnastasyaSnezh)

I thought it was a reach at first but they actually seem to have changed his face model

X · Jan 22, 2026, 5:12 PM

[slender haven]

I don't give a shit about that honestly
Her SQ on the other hand....
Holy fuck that was bad

[slender haven]

Doesn't look too bad at least

[slender haven]

Literally why even include Xbalanque if you do nothing with his actual character

[golden sluice]

I skipped it ngl, I just remember seeing her fight with Xbalanque and getting pissed off

[slender haven]

Xbalanque has absolutely nothing to say about Ochkanatlan even as he literally drives by it
Bro, your husband ruled it

And got fucked murdered

[golden sluice]

it's the fact in one of her character stories they say she can master any craft in less time than anyone else and become better than the masters of it like are thry serious

[golden sluice]

same, it's like they brought him just to glaze Mavuika

[slender haven]

I don't like saying this
But I hope they say she's the strongest Archon
If only for Capitano upscale

[golden sluice]

I understand but

[slender haven]

Because AQ writers and WQ writers were clearly different and they had no idea what Xbalanque's actual character was

[slender haven]

A sacrifice I'm willing to make
I can just slander her and call her weak after she loses her gnosis anyhow

[golden sluice]

that's true yeah

[golden sluice]

wonder how she's losing it

[gray raven]

mavuika did nothing wrong

i stand by that

[golden sluice]

but hmm I wonder if the theory about her giving the gnosis to the traveler is true

[golden sluice]

she killed my grandma

[slender haven]

She ascends to become the 5th descender with complete mastery of fate and gives it to the Fatui because she doesn't need it anymore
Capitano says that she's a better leader than the Tsaritsa

[golden sluice]

fuck is he gonna do? throw money at it?

[golden sluice]

this shit would've happened a year ago 😭

[slender haven]

Nah she had the gnosis when she fought him
Without it she'd be dead

[gray raven]

you are biased

against columbina also

[slender haven]

And Cap nerfed himself by not summoning another sword

If he did she'd be fucked

Sword > fist

https://tenor.com/view/capitano-genshin-captain-genshin-genshin-impact-capitano-il-capitano-the-captain-gif-9933705717034959428

Yeah and it broke on Cap's

He could have just made another

[golden sluice]

Mavuika yeah Columbina nah, she still has some issues but I still find her far more likeable than Mavuika

[slender haven]

But he's too honorable to do so

[golden sluice]

Capitano can whip out his sword alright

[slender haven]

Because his claymore's was clearly better than her dogshit one

[gray raven]

mavuika is also likeable

your pfp is dottore

[slender haven]

"Lend me some claymores Kinich, this is base Capitano we're up against"

[golden sluice]

they tried too hard to make her likeable it made it the opposite of likeable

[gray raven]

you're one to talk

[slender haven]

She should have it at all times
It's made from fire

[golden sluice]

what's wrong with liking Dottore

have you never liked a villain

[gray raven]

dottore is evil

anyways

[golden sluice]

that's the charm

[gray raven]

i wonder if skirk teased snezhnaya geography already

[slender haven]

Mavuika had to target the innocent souls in Cap's heart to stand a chance
If she actually destroyed any of them Capitano would have been sure to make her pay

Xilonen didn't make it

[gray raven]

stop agendaposting

mavuika beat capitano fair and square

[slender haven]

Some Natlan souls were in there

[slender haven]

No lol

[gray raven]

she is just her

[golden sluice]

oh I've always thought about how it's possible he was beaten just because his heart was injured, the critical spot

[slender haven]

The souls in his heart were being threatened by the flames

I didn't play that version

Lol

[gray raven]

when are we getting tsaritsa reveal

[golden sluice]

july

[slender haven]

Green aura with stink lines
Leather in a canonically hot place has to smell like dogshit

Was the humanity just her being more perfect?

[gray raven]

mavuika has character

have you read mizuki's voiceline about her

[slender haven]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

[gray raven]

she's not okay

at all

[slender haven]

The character in question

Cap has ice powers

He can be cold whenever he wants

[gray raven]

mavuika is not stinky

capitano definitely is

dude probably stinks more given his body's been sitting on a chair for a year now

[slender haven]

That was literally just more glazing
Because she has flame powers

[slender haven]

She is

[gray raven]

oh you don't get it do you

[slender haven]

There are no showers in Natlan

[golden sluice]

yeah I did

[gray raven]

your mavuika hatred blinds you to the truth

[golden sluice]

looks cool

[slender haven]

No

[golden sluice]

I hope they change him to catalyst tho

[slender haven]

It had flames in her brain because she's pyro archon
And Mizuki is too weak to invade it

That's it

[slender haven]

I am so sick of catalysts man

[golden sluice]

same but

look at him bro

he's so catalyst coded

[gray raven]

you keep denying it

[golden sluice]

why is he a claymore

thing is

[gray raven]

cause he uses one

[slender haven]

Kaveh uses a claymore too

[golden sluice]

Dottore is more than likely a supprot/sub dps

if he uses a catalyst I can at least use him

on field

[golden sluice]

I know but

[gray raven]

dottore should die

[golden sluice]

he has that one catalyst

he always uses

he even has it in his idle animation during the first fight

[slender haven]

The artificial moon marrow?
That broke

[golden sluice]

no no

I have to find it wait

[slender haven]

I think that was the fake moon marrow

Or something containing it

[gray raven]

mavuika wrecks dottore

[golden sluice]

nah it wasn't, he had it back in 6.2 too

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2011471785816920524

Daily Boattore 💉 (@dailyboattore)

Dottore is so playable he even has an idle animation already

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 14, 2026, 4:13 PM

here

look that's not the fake moon marrow inside it

[slender haven]

Oh that thing

[golden sluice]

yeah

it's a catalyst

[gray raven]

she is more attractive than him

[golden sluice]

please change him to catalyst

[gray raven]

and stinks less

[golden sluice]

Dottore canonically doesn't stink cz he doesn't have the bodily functions that make someone sweat cz he's a cyborg atp

[gray raven]

who's the harbinger that's not gonna be playable

[golden sluice]

so Mavuika stinks more

[slender haven]

I feel like he would smell like medicine

[hasty narwhal]

signota

[golden sluice]

Signora

[slender haven]

Signora

[hasty narwhal]

capitano

[golden sluice]

idk if that's a bad or good smell

[golden sluice]

[slender haven]

Can be kinda gross

[hasty narwhal]

I'm giving up on believing man

[gray raven]

how would playable pantalone work

[golden sluice]

Capitano is soft confirmed to come back

[slender haven]

Press E then press Q

[gray raven]

is he gonna crush enemies with snezhnaya's gdp

[golden sluice]

idk why ppl overthink Pantalone

Hu Tao canonically doesn't know how to fight

they can just give him a delusion

and voila

[slender haven]

Collei too

[slender haven]

Nah
Moon Wheel

[golden sluice]

moon wheel in Snezhnaya's meta?

doubtful

[gray raven]

tbf hu tao combat is just waving a stick around

[slender haven]

Or just give him a vision he obtains in a quest lol

[golden sluice]

I hope not

yeah please

[slender haven]

Would be funny kinda

[golden sluice]

it would be but 😭

but like

the contempt and disdain he has had toward vision bearers

[slender haven]

It
Would
Be
Funny

[golden sluice]

[gray raven]

what is tsaritsa like

[golden sluice]

don't manifest ts

[slender haven]

So he gets one himself
Perfect irony

[golden sluice]

please give her a design similar to Arlecchino

please

[golden sluice]

Ivknow

I know

BUT

MAN

PLEASE DONT MANIFEST THIS SHIT

[gray raven]

why

i don't see it

[slender haven]

Fine

[golden sluice]

idk

I like Arle's design

the most

[gray raven]

she will be elsa

[golden sluice]

between the women in genshin

something like her would be peak

[slender haven]

I'm fond of Nicole's dress
Wouldn't mind Tsaritsa kind of looking like that

[gray raven]

what if tsaritsa is a dragon

[golden sluice]

that would be good too just don't cut the dress

[slender haven]

https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279

[golden sluice]

I will come to your house

[gray raven]

or tsaritsa is dressed like a ballerina

[golden sluice]

I like it but feel like it's still lacking a bit

just a biiit more

[slender haven]

Nah
She's a fae

[golden sluice]

and remove the detached sleeves

[slender haven]

Yeah

[golden sluice]

is it confirmed?

[slender haven]

Just a little fancier

[golden sluice]

and taller a bit

you're not a harbinger fan

[slender haven]

I think in the new book it says that Belyi was a Fae
And Tsaritsa is his daughter probably

[gray raven]

tsaritsa is probably not his daughter

[golden sluice]

I hope her design gets revealed

soon

[slender haven]

Why though

[slender haven]

Mhm, excited for it

[golden sluice]

I love all harbingers even if I'm disappointed with some of them lately but yeah

I'm a weeb

[gray raven]

her being a human who rose up the ranks would be more fitting and interesting

[golden sluice]

I have jp dub

[slender haven]

She would be half human in this case

[golden sluice]

they already did that trope with Mavuika

[slender haven]

Since fae can have kids with humans

[golden sluice]

that reminds me

I was so excited when we first heard the pyro archon is a human

[slender haven]

Also Khaenri'ah is right after Sneznahya

[gray raven]

what is tsaritsa and aila were close friends

[golden sluice]

only for Mavuika to be my least favorite archon

[gray raven]

[golden sluice]

true

though

I'm betting

on either Ved or Rhine

being the "archon" figure

of Khaenriah

[slender haven]

I think Ved

I hope at least

[golden sluice]

and idk if u can even consider them human anymore

[golden sluice]

me too I want a male character to be the main push

[slender haven]

They technically ascended to it on their own

[slender haven]

I know Vedrfolnir's design is going to be great

[golden sluice]

true but when I think of a human I think someone like Varka or Capitano or Dottore fits more

they feel more

[slender haven]

Or Capitano

[golden sluice]

"human" if you get what I mean

[slender haven]

Wait you said that

[golden sluice]

yeah I said that

[slender haven]

Yeah I know what you mean

[slender haven]

I'm tired

[golden sluice]

indeed

[golden sluice]

fair

he won't be

I think

he's gonna turn out to be playing 4D chess

for the sake of Teyvat

[slender haven]

Kind of imagining him looking like this

[golden sluice]

I think that's more Hroptatyr

[slender haven]

They're both sus

[golden sluice]

a long robe with long white hair

yeah

yeah I can see it

[golden sluice]

I know but at least we have small ideas of Ved

Hroptatyr tho?

nothing

absolutely nothing

[slender haven]

He'll probably be blonde but yeah

[golden sluice]

the most enigmatic sinner of them all

[golden sluice]

I assume it turned his hair white like it did to Rerir?

yeah I'm ezcited

[slender haven]

He was leader of Universitas and was one of the pillars ig

[slender haven]

Rhine was still blonde

[golden sluice]

yeah but I mean after the cataclysm

[slender haven]

Yeah

[golden sluice]

I'm attributing it to the fact she's a shade rn

after the cataclysm tho

nothing

[slender haven]

Istaroth is blonde in her art so Ved might be too

[golden sluice]

wait

aren't all the shades white haired

ezcept Rhinedottir

after the cataclysm?

[slender haven]

Here

That's more blonde than white

[golden sluice]

yeah that's more obvious

[slender haven]

Yeah it's different in the actual video though so idk

[golden sluice]

can Snezhnaya arrive sooner

wonder how's Pierro gonna look like

ingame

[slender haven]

Will probably use Varka's model I think

[golden sluice]

i hope so at least that means he's playable

keep his beard

[slender haven]

We can hope

Bears

[golden sluice]

🥀

beard

[slender haven]

https://tenor.com/view/kishibe-csm-chainsawman-you-liar-lying-gif-6858829782924990117

Pierro reminds me of him

Tired old men

[golden sluice]

bro

is Gallagher the only character

with facial hair

[slender haven]

Yes

[zinc pagoda]

True

[golden sluice]

Pierro change please

save us Pierro

[zinc pagoda]

I wonder how pierro facial hair will look

[slender haven]

We have to shave him in order to save his life

[zinc pagoda]

In game

[golden sluice]

playable characters I mean

[golden sluice]

let him die

[golden sluice]

that's what I'm worried about

tf

who

[slender haven]

You mean the bears right?

[golden sluice]

in zzz?

those don't count

they don't count bro

😭

[zinc pagoda]

Same

[gray raven]

imagine werewolf char in snezhnaya

[zinc pagoda]

Wriothesly ended

[golden sluice]

wasn't there a book that mentions a werewolf like creature in Snezhnaya?

or was it a vampire

[slender haven]

Yeah

[zinc pagoda]

Yeah iirc

[slender haven]

One of the creatures mentioned is a wolf man in mythology
Idr its name though

[golden sluice]

I see

[zinc pagoda]

Chai tea < matcha

[golden sluice]

cz they're furries

[gray raven]

will snezhnaya have ballet dancers

[zinc pagoda]

Missing on peak

[golden sluice]

why do u like ballet dancing so much

[zinc pagoda]

Yes

try milk

[golden sluice]

my 6'1 me with my matcha tea and book about feminism

[zinc pagoda]

Milk is goated

[gray raven]

snezhnaya is perfect to introduce ballet

[zinc pagoda]

true

[gray raven]

you don't?

[golden sluice]

not really

I don't like nor dislike it

I'm neutral

[zinc pagoda]

You haven't seen peak ballet

Yet

[golden sluice]

tf are u watching

[golden sluice]

not interested in it ngl 😭

[zinc pagoda]

It's peak, just like horse racing

[gray raven]

ballet does not originate in russia but russian ballet is world famous

[zinc pagoda]

anything for doctor

[gray raven]

why is discord gif search so ass now

[golden sluice]

I wonder how technologically advanced

[zinc pagoda]

No tenor

[golden sluice]

Snez will be

[zinc pagoda]

Using ass api now

[gray raven]

fontaine does not have ballet but fontaine does have opera

[zinc pagoda]

Yapping is sad, when will I become non yellow

[zinc pagoda]

True french

[gray raven]

but is fontainian opera like irl opera or is it more like musicals

[golden sluice]

that's their excuse to give half naked designs

[zinc pagoda]

Close to irl opera tbh

Musicals don't have sets like those

[zinc pagoda]

But they shaved male's facial hair because of heat

[golden sluice]

I'll take the hit and become bald so they'd keep Pierro's facial hair

a worthy sacrifice

[zinc pagoda]

Transplanting your own hair into pierro's beard

Umazing

[golden sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/umazing-uma-musume-haru-urara-uma-gif-8811229770082296989

[gray raven]

then do other people sing in the little oceanid

and we just don't hear it

[zinc pagoda]

Could be, maybe the entire act was a soliloquy

[gray raven]

what is the Korolevskiy Troupe

[zinc pagoda]

That's a snezehaya performer troupe no ?

[gray raven]

what do they perform

[zinc pagoda]

Idk probably musicals and regular shows to entertain people, judging from that one npc I forgot they must be high profile

So maybe opera ?

Sad

[outer kraken]

It's almost like they were made 3 years apart

[tawdry blade]

[modern bluff]

TOXIC EX FOR PS4 IS WILDDDD

Tbf ur not wrong it long served its purpose

once bloodborne was capped at 30 fps I knew it was fucking over

What does that make xbox then i wonder

[tawdry blade]

ps5 next

[modern bluff]

True because its a console with no games

but it runs astro bot

so

[tawdry blade]

waiting for genshin to let u delete resorce on pc since zzz had it not long ago

[golden sluice]

god they need to do it

genshin exceeded 100gb in my pc

[golden sluice]

@ashen ocean

yea

but like I said last time

I can't find the post

which explanation

oh

I thought u meant we got an explanation

the city in the chasm is Lang Gan?

damn

[gray raven]

wrong

You are always so quick to judge

just let it all happen

[golden sluice]

who shall I choose hmm

two

where would I even use her tho

I'm thinking either Baizhu for er issues cz I use him in Lauma teams or Nilou cz her circle stays longer

her C1 makes her hydro application last 6 secs longer

hmm

I'll keep it there for a while

it's between Baizhu and Nilou for now

nope

I'm conflicted

https://tenor.com/view/albedo-albedo-genshin-albedo-genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-gif-6890997634146043769

I was lowk thinking of Tartaglia cz his cd becomes lower 😭

[slender haven]

Hear me out
Rosaria gets Hexenzirkel buffs to turn Varka into a Melt DPS

Father and daughter combo

[golden sluice]

I'm lowk manifesting more Hex buffs so more Mond units can be good for Varka

like Rosaria

and uhhh

Jean

and uhhh

who else in Mond didn't get hex buffs and is not Noelle?

[slender haven]

I hope man

[slender haven]

Imagine Bennet gets one

[golden sluice]

bro will be more broken than he already is

if they give him hex buffs tho

it's gonna be something like

"Bennet gets 10% atk"

and it would be fair ngl 😭

[slender haven]

Gives him Nightsoul powers so you can slap Cinder City on him

[golden sluice]

bro wants to break the game 🥀

[slender haven]

The true pyro archon deserves it
Shituika doesn't stand a chance

[golden sluice]

there's no pyro archon in my book

[slender haven]

When Enjou is revealed to be the Pyro Sovereign we can pretend he is

[golden sluice]

I hope hoyo does a based thing and makes Mavuika retire from being an archon

she already got her time

make her retire

[slender haven]

He won't if they buff Rosaria

[slender haven]

Fuck it, Kachina should be the new Pyro Archon

Would be good for variety

[golden sluice]

let's not get too crazy now

[golden sluice]

that's what im manifesting

Dahlia buffs

[slender haven]

Yes that too

[golden sluice]

along with Rosaria and Diona and Mika

opens the room for double hydro and double cryo comps for Varka

[slender haven]

Barbra buffs too maybe

[golden sluice]

true

he has a lot of potnetial with future supportts tbh

[slender haven]

We can dream

[golden sluice]

I can see double cryo being good when Tsartisa releases ngl

ow man double electro is not good for him cz Fischl buffs don't work for him

Kinich 💀

[slender haven]

When he dies Ajaw takes his body 💀

[golden sluice]

he ain't beating the screentime demon brochacho

[golden sluice]

hoyo let this happen I want a playable Ajaw ✌️

tf

how

[slender haven]

I want more dragon characters

[golden sluice]

that is exactly why I said that ✌️

I love dragons

give me dragons

cryo sovereign in Snezhnaya please

[slender haven]

Playable Dvalin
Playable Azhdaha
Playable Apep
Kill Columbina
Playable Xiuhcoatl

[golden sluice]

manifesting that shit so hard bro

can Apep

have a human form

?

[slender haven]

Probably

The inside of her body is more like a magical pocket dimension than a physical place

[golden sluice]

doesn't mean he's related, just a book about it

[slender haven]

Plus Azhdaha just created a magic puppet he could control

[golden sluice]

wait

I just clocked something

[golden sluice]

why kill Columbina 😭

ok fair enough

[slender haven]

The Moons fucked over the Dragons so hard
Like TF you mean "Nibelung didn't teach you order"
Also Columbina insults Neuvi in her voice line about him

[golden sluice]

DUDE I SAW THAT VOICELINE IS PISSED ME OFF

does she not realize

her sisters deserved that shit

it is forced

and it's not like Nibelung planned to keep them forever

what can u do the fucker died

it was out of his control

I pulled him cz I was trying to get constellations on one of the 4*s on his banner

I got him early

forgor

who was in his

first banner

also Thoma was already C6 by that point

[slender haven]

Three rich white women not caring about the natives of their planet 💔

[golden sluice]

ok yea then yeah

Chevreuse

still C3 btw ✌️

[golden sluice]

no matter what happens I will never ever sympathize with PO and the shades for what they did to the dragons

[slender haven]

The look they gave Xiuhcoatl when he asked them to do the bare minimum

[golden sluice]

they genuinely got reverse evolution just to survive

never forgiving that shit

[slender haven]

Fuckers say anything to defend them for that for some reason

[golden sluice]

that's lucky

[slender haven]

No they weren't
Nicole was just saying shit

[golden sluice]

he did? 😭

[golden sluice]

I really don't understand Celestia and PO fans

how can you defend the stuff they did

[slender haven]

He went to their palaces to ask where Nibelung went and how they needed his help and they didn't say anything to him
Ineffa was there too

[slender haven]

Ronova has big bazongas

[golden sluice]

wow

I'm already disappointed

in them

but

they actually ignored Xiuhcoatl?

[slender haven]

Sonnet was ok though
She was the only who didn't want to approve

[golden sluice]

you can look beyond that a bit

they don't

[golden sluice]

mfs can't like hot villains

[golden sluice]

was she not able to do something by herself at least?

[slender haven]

"They no longer seemed real, like thoughts flaring into being, then fading away in a trance.

She had once followed the Master of Light and Flame to visit the moon-dwelling wills on their three lunar thrones of jade.
By that time, the king's own throne sat vacant, and shadows poured over the sky, while each dragonlord acted as they pleased.
The Master of Light and Flame had sought their help, hoping to pick up the trail of the king who had stepped into the fog between stars.
But the only answer he received was three separate silences in three different palace halls.
From that time on, even the endless snowfields turned to blackened earth, while the volcanoes became clogged with ice.
And still they did not — or could not — speak.
Though that was an age when three were still three."

Fractured Halo's description

[slender haven]

Outvoted ig

When did they say that

[golden sluice]

that's actually crazy bruh

he went to ask for their help and none of them answered?

the moon sisters are frauds

wait

[slender haven]

The description implies that they maybe couldn't somehow
Ig they didn't know where Nibelung was either

[golden sluice]

which one tried to help Hyperborea with their rebellion?

[slender haven]

Canon

I don't remember them saying they were scared of The HP
Didn't they say they were planning on rebelling?

[golden sluice]

they could've helped even with Nibelung's absence tho, but the other two didn't want to

[golden sluice]

was that before or after Xiuhcoatl came to them?

[slender haven]

The new artifact set goes more into details
Essentially they were confused that HP wasn't the Abyss

[slender haven]

After
Since it was after the dragons were conquered

[golden sluice]

since Canon and Sonnet tried to help eventually why didn't they help when Nibelung arrived?

[modern bluff]

hold the fucking phone is there moon slander in my chat

okay they half deserved it

[slender haven]

He was corrupted by the Abyss

[golden sluice]

that's why they refused to help him?

[modern bluff]

but yknow the HP fucked them over just as much

[slender haven]

Ig

[slender haven]

Yeah the HP sucks too

[golden sluice]

both do

[modern bluff]

the moons did nothing

yes

but they also couldnt do anything

[slender haven]

They don't say that

[modern bluff]

its both their action and inaction that caused their demise

are we talking about the boatman?

from tsurumi island

bringing souls to the dark side of the moon on a ferry

see the thing is his magic funny words are so vague

[golden sluice]

wait wait I'm confused about something

[modern bluff]

im not sure what the point of him doing that was for the moon sisters

there has to be more to it

[golden sluice]

back when PO first arrived the sovereigns tried to fight him right?

[slender haven]

Yeah no mention of strength

[slender haven]

The Moons weren't useful anymore so The HP destroyed them

[slender haven]

For 40 years yeah

[golden sluice]

why didn't the moons help them?

[slender haven]

No they just didn't understand HP's Order specifically
Not that they had no order specifically

[slender haven]

Too busy debating

[golden sluice]

idk man, bending the knee because you think yourself too weak and let your kin die and change to new unrecognizable species is pretty fucked up

[slender haven]

: No. There was an order to the rules they set up that Nibelung never taught us.
Aria: We wanted to know if this order would bode good or ill for Teyvat.
Sonnet: ...

They were just confused by the "rules" they set up specifically
Not the concept of order

[golden sluice]

even if they thought themselves took they should've helped the sovereigns somehow

[slender haven]

Yeah the PO's laws specifically not order as a concept

It ok

They were an extension of a descender at least

Took 40 years though
Bum ass

They also had the stolen seven elements

Remade specifically to counter the Abyss

[golden sluice]

wdym?

[slender haven]

To be fair Abyss Nibelung probably would have killed everyone if he won

Since he went crazy

[slender haven]

Nibelung is a descender and the Moons had his powers

[golden sluice]

oh is that the order the PO set

I was thinking if PO is actually the AI of the traveler's spaceship isn't this whole thing the traveler's fault? they must've known the purpose of their AI before they forgot their memory right?

[slender haven]

The order was the new elements The HP made I think
And the altered Ley Lines

[slender haven]

And the false sky

[golden sluice]

but before they were

before they landed

surely they knew the purpose

of their AI

before their memories were forgotten

unless they were put there by force

and put in stasis since the beginning of the journey

then they knew

they must've known

bro

if it actually turns out they knew

[slender haven]

I was thinking that maybe The HP just stole the AI in the ship not is the AI

Idk though

[golden sluice]

no no I mean

knew its purpose

before forgetting their memories

[golden sluice]

and use it to make the planet to their liking?

[slender haven]

Maybe they used it to make the Shades

Or something

Idk

The Shades are weird

[golden sluice]

that's not correct

we don't know if they're unfamiliar or not

[slender haven]

Istaroth's Arcanum tarot card depicts her in space amongst a bunch of planets

[golden sluice]

they're not the rulers yet

they're shaping up them to be the rulers

[slender haven]

That's not what Teyvat looks like

They kinda look like Moons though

A little too liberal here

It looks like she's floating in space

Her tarot card describes the life of the entire universe too

[golden sluice]

why is she crying

[slender haven]

Sad about fate ig

[modern bluff]

"time abides no reason, for it deprives us all equally yet brooks not a second to be reclaimed"

maybe the unfairness of the concept of time in mortals/humans is enough to make someone weep/bring to despair

it reminds me how ved saw the inevitability of the future and lamented

tho who knows

the shades all have participated in influencing the life of teyvat in their own ways, at least within the rules set by the HP

we dont know how they feel yet

at least, not entirely

[modern bluff]

Prove how?

Is she mentioned under different names doing things specifically?

[golden sluice]

@slender haven ts gotta be u

[slender haven]

Lol

[tawdry blade]

natlan hate video in 2026

bet it is the same take recycled

[gray raven]

mavuika is goated

[golden sluice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/An2kl86e6jA?si=5Ndjk9H9RA5RgmP-

the ost used here sounds so peak

anyone know whats its name?

@gray raven

[earnest star]

First it's marked as SUS (which means if you don't know btw not reliable)
2nd I always say my source you can go dig yourself instead of saying random things

08/08/2025
This person leaked Zibai Geo Lunar-Crystallize in 6.3 and Linnea in 6.5 is a Geo Lunar-Crystallize support

According to https://discord.com/channels/964601803763220531/1396440008025702410 the first leak in it about White Horse is the 28/09/2025 from FullStopChan which is more than a month after and sharing wrong informations (Anemo Support)

writer-x revealed yesterday that the 6.5 Character is a Geo Lunar-Crystallize support which put lights on this old leak which revealed to be real for Zibai

八云寺幽幽子 yesterday said that they still believe what they said is accurate

#・genshin-spoilers message

and saying ''Telegram is always the first source to check'' when they don't repost meng (except Leakflow because he repost all or almost all leaks) which have 100% track record is funny

[golden sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/dottore-genshin-dottore-zandik-zandik-genshin-lets-take-a-look-gif-14758393588564331669

[modern bluff]

Uh idk if theres a name but it plays in his intro scene back in Luna 2

Where he defeats the wild hunt to save us

[slender haven]

I had a dream Roland's design finally got leaked before I woke up

https://tenor.com/view/reze-chainsaw-man-csm-stare-anime-rain-gif-17751007222649062258

[modern bluff]

go back to sleep im sure itll leak next time you wake up

yup yup

[tawdry blade]

Finally doing Hexen homework

So the world limit is changing huh

starting the quest with columbina flying away

yes

this one is the one that change her stone statue

[distant citrus]

@ashen ocean did they tell what ineffa found out when she went to Amsvartnir? I think they did but maybe I'm forgetting....

[distant citrus]

Alright

[modern bluff]

is it specified what that even means

this was before rerir got thrown into the moon gate right

[slender haven]

Yay

Sick

I know
I just saw Rerir and was excited

Shame we'll probably have to wait till Khaenri'ah
Probably

Well he isn't really evil anymore lol
At least if he sticks with his Moon reflection character

Yeah he turned good

Indeed

I just want Varka now

And Sandrone ig

Have they turned him getting incinerated into a gif yet

Close enough

[gray raven]

not known

[golden sluice]

yea he's playable

[tawdry blade]

https://tenor.com/view/varka-laughing-genshin-impact-genshin-gif-8507422359033669170

may varka be good in another timeline

[long crest]

imma be real

i have a feeling what zhongli talked about in the trailer

has a lot to do with nicole's warning that teyvat is now more exposed to the universe

"When that happens, the cage will open"

what did bro mean by that

[golden sluice]

I think that's about one of Bakunawa's pieces

[long crest]

why bakunawa?

[golden sluice]

didn't they talk about a moon eating serpent in CN?

aw man

I thought it was some Bakunawa stuff

[long crest]

what did nicole even do during the quest

6.3 archon quest

final part where she pulls the moon down

with arle and varka

like

is it explained how she got such absolutely insane power

i know she says alice and her had done some prep

but like girl

pulling the fucking moon down

is kind of a big feat

[golden sluice]

didn't Sandrone do 90% of the work orr

[long crest]

no no

sandrone formula was to allow bina a new fate

[golden sluice]

I honestly didn't understand what Sandrone did

her and the whole world formula thing

[long crest]

the actual moon was still needed in proximity of bina's body for the trilunar combo to work

bina's body being all the kuvaahki in nod krai

so the moon being pulled down past the fake sky

allowed that proximity combo to work

however

again

pulling THE MOON DOWN

is not something you just do lmao

how tf did nicole do that

[golden sluice]

that doesn't explain it better gng

yes

[long crest]

so you know how dottore was begging the traveler to join him? the reason he kept asking is because without the traveler's descender status, he is ultimately still bound by the planet's fate system

without an outside variable not bound by teyvat's fate, like the traveler, dottore is cooked

and he knows this

[golden sluice]

so uh

[long crest]

bina is also bound by teyvat's fate laws
so for her combo to work, a new fate had to be created

what sandrone did was force a new fate onto bina, by literally calculating the fate of the world

[golden sluice]

the world formula for Sandrone basically did what Dottore did in 6.2 but with the help of a descender so it changed fate and pulled the moon down?

[long crest]

very similar to what anya andersdotter did to durin

no what pulled the moon down was nicole's absolutely GOAT magic powers

nicole supercharged varka and arle and all 3 of them used kuvaahki gravity magic to pull the moon down

apparently

[golden sluice]

then what did Sandrone contribute

[long crest]

the actual fate for bina

without it, shes cooked

teyvat will not budge without it

teyvat has some extremely powerful fate systems in place that make sure its inhabitants follow the protocol

[golden sluice]

I'll just watch the vid both of u are saying two different things I'm more confused

[long crest]

and if you try to subvert this fate system it will LITERALLY erase this new fate over time

like, systematically turn it to dust, first by wiping memories from teyvat inhabitants

not rly right

wasnt it like

a new interpretation of it?

or maybe just postponing the inevitable

[golden sluice]

Fontaine's fate happened

[long crest]

well

we dont know

[golden sluice]

wasn't it about Fontaine drowning?

[long crest]

we know it had a flood
but we don't know if it was the actual apocalypse flood that was meant to destroy it

[golden sluice]

I don't remember seeing the prophecy talk about anyone dying

or changing or anything

[long crest]

hm ok

[golden sluice]

yeah then it happened

[long crest]

well thats good then

[cedar juniper]

Im pretty sure it did say ppl will be dissolved

[long crest]

ya

[cedar juniper]

But its close enough

[long crest]

but neuv GOAT fixed it ahead of time

[golden sluice]

technically some people did

[long crest]

bro was like "nah bro ur fine now"

and so they were fine

[cedar juniper]

True

[long crest]

but anyway

zhongli said the cage would open

[golden sluice]

wait

[long crest]

main things that stand out as cage to me:
fake sky
bakunawa's prison

[golden sluice]

Zibai has 3 or 4 personalities no?

what if the cage is about one of her

"evil" personalities

[long crest]

hmmm

[cedar juniper]

Aint no way zibai2 in 7.4

[long crest]

you dont hear zhongli speak with that tone very often

so it must be fairly dangerous

[golden sluice]

another Geo baddie

[golden sluice]

tbf

Zibai was an agel

angel*

[long crest]

we need nicole and zibai to have a tea party

moon prison?

why would that open?

meh

[cedar juniper]

So that rerir becomes playable

[golden sluice]

Rerir WILL be playable

[long crest]

surely

[golden sluice]

on EVERYONE'S souls here

[long crest]

any day now

[golden sluice]

he will be playable

[cedar juniper]

If i laugh , bakunawa escapes

[golden sluice]

lowkey want Bakunawa to escape

let's hope he eats Natlan on his way out

[cedar juniper]

*mavuika

Leave natlan alone just take her bumass

[long crest]

rhinedottir after she sees bakunawa escape

[golden sluice]

lowk would happen in Natlan era

[golden sluice]

nah take it all

[golden sluice]

Rhinedottir's bumass everytime a creation of her becomes a calamity

it would

[long crest]

rhine after she fucked up the world (for the 4th time (today))

[golden sluice]

in Natlan era they'd definitely make Mavuika oneshot it 😭✌️

[golden sluice]

we're gonna reach the end and PO is dead and it will be its dead body fighting us still alive because of Rhine's experiments

[long crest]

PO is quite literally on life support rn

it seems

bro got clobbered by the calamity

and before that by nibelung

[cedar juniper]

It would be cool if PO was dead all along

"sleeping" my ass

[long crest]

nah he just mimirmaxxing rn

[golden sluice]

real

dude

I'm manifesting

Hroptatyr

to be the one who ate him just like Rhine did

[long crest]

PO pov

[golden sluice]

to Naberius

[cedar juniper]

We're NOT voremaxxing this shit

[golden sluice]

I'm eating you

[long crest]

ok lets say PO wakes up

[cedar juniper]

I moan

[long crest]

and is fine

what is the first thing he does

[cedar juniper]

Take a shit

(fills up the chasm)

[long crest]

PO looking at whatever the fuck rhinedottir is rn

[golden sluice]

smites down the Tsaritsa

[golden sluice]

or this yeah

[long crest]

"What did you do to my shade huh?"

[golden sluice]

traveler can eat shit

[cedar juniper]

He cant be that hungry

[long crest]

PO telling rhinedottir to kindly leave the premises after waking up

[cedar juniper]

Well naberius is still around

Its fine

[golden sluice]

Rhinedottir is also still bound by the rules

since she's a shade now

[long crest]

HEAVY asterisk on that one lmao

like yes she is, but she literally tries to break them DURING THE SHADE MEETING

girlie is insane

https://youtu.be/jvXVmvW8ZQw?t=361

6:00

"The heavenly principles have yet to awaken"

Notice as soon as she says this, is when Istaroth is like

wait what the fuck did you just say girlie

Then Naberius is like HOL UP

[cedar juniper]

I mean naberius literally says smnth like "i cant allow you to do that"

So she's not allowed

[long crest]

Yeah, right after Rhine does her thing, Naberius put in the AI thought protocol

[cedar juniper]

I thought you said rhinoceros