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sterile shale
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After what I see in that realm he's like

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"I don't wanna fight no more man"

pallid otter
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But the flight log indicated that the ship first flew through Teyvat potentially thousands of years ago

sterile shale
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Ehhhh

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Or we could be fighting vedrfolnir instead

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I think would be much more interesting

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My friend who doesnt know much about Genshin last night was watching my stream

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And I was like "oh it's rerir. Okay this guy is cracked. Like actually cracked"

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And he's like how cracked?

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I couldn't tell him how cracked until he brought up Skirks master

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And I was like

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"Oh he's same level as Skirks master"

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And he was like

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Why is this guy getting some post nut clarity

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When I meant same level

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It's coz they're in the position of sinners

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So yeah

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Sinners are possibly like

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Pseudo shade level prolly

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Slightly weaker

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Far weaker?

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Damn so Rerir was supposed to eat ronova

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/j

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Learned so much about everyone

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But hroptatyr

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We have not even seen him besides the stupid chess piece on the previous archon quest lmao

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Why are you hiding him hoyo

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We've already seen all the other sinners and all the shades

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Not sure

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Possibly

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Reason hints out to be like

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Stronger than the other 4 entities

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Descenders are cheat codes but damn

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Why traveler be like that

tawdry blade
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Hrop power of reason cost him his own memories and knowledge as the downside

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Chance that we re plant the Irminsul if it is burnt down? The only way to stabilize Teyvat tbh

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modern bluff
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goddamn hroptatyr where the fuck is he at

modern bluff
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on the other hand

tawdry blade
modern bluff
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wanderer sure has an interesting core huh

tawdry blade
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That is what matter the most

modern bluff
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yknow since sumeru is missing from the ID timeline thing

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we might visit past 6.6

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maybe itll be our summer event?

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summer fun withthe burning world tree

tawdry blade
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"There was once a giant tree that ran across the world, and this twig was part of it. Though it has been removed from the tree, their connection remains strong as ever. Therefore, as long as the giant white tree that symbolizes the center of the world does not die, it will never wither."
Why is it "was"

analog merlin
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Okay, here's the big picture regarding all this: What happens when Irminsul is burned?

tawdry blade
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I supposed the Irminsul was burnt once?

tawdry blade
modern bluff
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i have to assume not many good things

tawdry blade
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No,it is a new branch,stated by the description

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Re plant Irminsul might introduce Sumeru character buff as well ngl

modern bluff
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LMAO

tawdry blade
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Akasha system was basically a buff for humanity lmao

analog merlin
# tawdry blade I supposed the Irminsul was burnt once?

There were multiples of the tree scattered all over Teyvat, and most of them got hit by Celestial Nails. One in Dragonspine, another in the Chasm, a third in Tsurumi Island, a fourth in the Desert of Hadramaveh, a fifth in Tenochtzitoc (as I assume the Night Kingdom is the only other way to enter the Mare Jivari), and one more somewhere in Snezhnaya (the Opera Epiclese would have been nailed because of Egeria's treason, but she exiled herself before it happened).

tawdry blade
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Dottore died with the Irminsul,just for us to plant it again( atleast it is under nahida full control now)

tawdry blade
analog merlin
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There is a Celestial Nail in the Night Kingdom, though we're not exactly sure how it ended up there. Though I assume it's square in where the Mare Jivari was created.

tawdry blade
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Well,the problem with Irminsul is it restrict people who seek higher knowledge and truth, if those restrictions are gone,it is a good thing. Although Dottore seem to want to be the god of Teyvat instead of freeing Teyvat A_HuTaoShrug "if I cant have it no one can" - Dottore before burning Irminsul

analog merlin
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So I assume it's in Ochkanatlan, but the kingdom was built over the nail?

tawdry blade
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Yeah but if Nahida gain full control then she can remove it

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That is why we re plant the tree if that is the case

sterile shale
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Only character we've seen challenging fate was prolly Andersdotter?

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Not so sure about the sinners

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Would the prevention of the Fontainian prophecy be classified as going against fate?

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Vedr prolly has a cheat code

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Seeing the future lmao

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Oh wait it did but nobody got washed away

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As in nobody went back to the primordial sea

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Yeah

craggy mist
gray raven
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is it lore locked

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oh my god

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brb

long crest
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@ashen ocean will you admit now that i was right about the shades being stronger than teyvat's dragon based authorities? now that we know the ship and possibly phanes and the shades come from our OG civilization?

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and thus the power the shades rely on are from our civilization

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AKA, holy fucking shit powerful

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chokeslam a star into shape powerful

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no i mean that the shades do not get their strength from teyvat

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they get their strength from the terraforming mechanics phanes controls

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they're shadows of the AI, sub-systems almost

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so ronova's power is literally the "kill shit" mechanics that our ship came with

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yeah

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who does not get its power from teyvat at all

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yes but they're given their power from it

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tldr: shades op af

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stronger than everything else that isnt phanes itself

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because their power comes from our ship

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and our ship is canonically the most op goddamn thing ever

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holy

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our ship passed by, left a smol AI and it solo chokeslammed the entire planet into submission

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like jesus christ man

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a planet with a VERY strong, established dragon civilization

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and they got absolutely dunked on nonetheless

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bro came back and still lost

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but yeah nibelung was strong

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but not strong enough

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nibelung before he left teyvat was not a descender

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he was born with the planet itself iirc

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it's his planet

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but yeah, that means ronova has the kill command powers from our OG civilization's tech

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AKA shes the most dangerous goddamn thing around

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shes not invincible

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but her power is that of The End

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shes not a defensive shade

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shes the offensive one

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if she wants you to end, you will

gray raven
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that new fatui book

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should it even be spoiler tagged still?

long crest
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right, phanes' rules

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nah if she gets permission, ur done

gray raven
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i don't think it should be

long crest
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bro we already have literal footage

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of what happens when she gets permission

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no she orbital deathbeams you to death

gray raven
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a brief history of the pale starborn

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anyone got it in game yet?

long crest
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with your entire being, soul and all, being entirely wiped out

gray raven
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pi

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have you got the book yet?

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i got it

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you should get it

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rn

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do you know how to get it?

modern bluff
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for anyone that has the wings of the silent moon or read the description

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do we know if its related to any character we know

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its not talking about the vinster king is it? it might be someone else

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like the belyi tsar or another king character

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" king of the Fae of the Snowlands"

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oh its being caught up on selenic chronicles

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Tho idk if anyone got that far so I read the description on project ambr

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what kinda lore is that and where did I miss out reading that WHAT

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Personally id like to know what item you read that has that lore

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??? bruh the selenic chronicles glider has different lore

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that one has the snow king i was asking about

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what item has lore about dain, surt and ved

golden sluice
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just remembered

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this is also the first time we got two ending credits

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once with Columbina in the moon and second with Varka

gray raven
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did act 7 have a starting screen

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i swear it didn't

tawdry blade
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If genshin was rate 16+ there would be an actual hole

golden sluice
long crest
distant citrus
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Cause she's in hyperborea

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Yes go to top you'll find the note

long crest
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you know who got the most glaze of them all

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albedo

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bro is literally getting respectful talks from sandrone

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almost nobody else gets that

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bro is ultra competent

tawdry blade
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Alchemist is a respectable job

long crest
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sucrose is an alchemist

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albedo is not just that

tawdry blade
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I mean the job is good in general

long crest
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albedo made Durin, an almost unprecedented feat

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that level of alchemy has not been seen since Rhinedottir

tawdry blade
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Was rene one too btw(

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The world formula

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If yes then no wonder

long crest
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you can even hear it in alice's voice during paralogism

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when albedo tells her what he wants to do

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and asks for her help

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shes immediately like yep, i'll be right there

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just drops everything shes up to and goes to help

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that tells us everything we need to know about how interesting a project it is

tawdry blade
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She has a crown tho

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Maybe she trade her horn for crown

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Like,demon horn to angel halo/crown

distant citrus
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Was there? Didn't it just said they had crown?

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I don't I only remember the artifact description of angels
And they had no horns

brisk estuary
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I think columbina could have moved her out of that place as well

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But she just forgot about it and didn't do it

golden sluice
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I assume Kuuvahki bullshit

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I assume just like they didn't get shredded because of Kuuvahki

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also

distant citrus
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Because the moon goddess had lunar powers that made them safe
Tholindis didn't so her body was destroyed
And when moon sisters gave their authority and powers to columbina their body started to collapse which is when they requested to be sent back to real world

And columbina soul was stuck there only until the world formula created the pathways to bring it back to present

outer kraken
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Technically they either had absorbed or have kuhvaki which the moon probably recognized so it didn't destroy their physical forma

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Rerir new body was made with it after all

distant citrus
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Created the pathways that connected the space between present and the moon reflection of the past
Also allowed columbina soul to find the anchor aka luonatar and return

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The same way she used her body as soil for nod krai C_TaoHehe
She got the trilune authority she can do that
The only problem was the soul that was trapped inside the prison

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Yes but she didn't influence the world she only influenced herself by splitting herself into 3 parts

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Also since trilune authority is more powerful so maybe that's also one reason she could do that

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Sisters didn't had an anchor like columbina did to return nor did they had world formula helping them

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Nor did they had trilunar authority

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How did she send her body as soil to nod krai?

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The game says she used her powers as trilune God

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So that's what we'll have to roll with C_TaoHehe

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No she made her body become the part of nod krai aka kuvaahki

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Are you really going to ask how future version did something in the past now?

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I thought you understood that already

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Because she has trilune authority which means she can manipulate time like how dottore did
She just used that for sending her authority over into the present day frost moon

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The prison purpose was to keep the soul inside which columbina was her soul was stuck there

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Yes and columbina didn't use her authority from inside the prison in outside world now did she?

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Because she can't

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Two seperate space dimension

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Its not when you realize it was dormant and useless until she herself could arrive in the same time

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Which she couldn't so prison purpose was served

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And how would they use it without the sisters?

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Besides they couldn't because no trilune powers

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My guy they literally destroyed the moons I don't think they care about marrow C_TaoHehe

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But as I said they couldn't go outside prison simply because they didn't have trilune authority

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Columbina even says she needs all 3 powers for her plan

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Yeah her plan involved trilune authority

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Not combined it was 3 seperate authority

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Say we know frost moon helped the scions with her blessing
And iridescent was turned to crimson and used by crimson dynasty

What did eternal do? Like what did she contribute? C_TaoHehe

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Nah there has to be something...

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Yeah and we saw her fragment over natlan too

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Yeah this is why they have to go back to natlan smh leaving plot holes

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True but bakunawa do have time travel shit

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So it's practical

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Definitely eternal moon will come back into the story still

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Maybe that's how Rerir comes back C_HuPepeSmile

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Also I'm doing the current wq but I'll say this it's not as interesting as tollan was...i guess I expected too much C_TaoHehe

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Maybe hyperborea will change my opinion but that'll come later

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Mad monk one

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I haven't completed it so could change my mind later but so far it's not much

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Arrow of terp something something
And it's literally a giant sniper C_TaoHehe

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Voyager must be from earth A_WheezeTao

tawdry blade
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Earth 3828

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Also,new ugc skin giving honkai verse vibe

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Especially amphorus

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Octa be meeting wild planet

distant citrus
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@ashen ocean Relya so that's the real name of Reed?
Quest ended... Didn't even get proper boss fight with mad monk...Dissapointing indeed

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Well at least amsvartnir delivered

tawdry blade
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What do you think of the WQ? Is it good? I haven't play

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Need to recover my email

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Which is next week

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So my only choice is re-download on Playstation and play the AQ for now..

distant citrus
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Only did two for now lore heavy ones
Mad monk was dissapointing
Amsvartnir was good

tawdry blade
distant citrus
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Reed Miller's remains I'll do it later see how it goes

distant citrus
golden sluice
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did he not get a proper model

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why didn't it get leaked back then

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what 💀

distant citrus
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Yeah...

golden sluice
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what happened

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🥀

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alright

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he appeared too? 💀

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i think i saw it

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a kid?

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nvm then

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didn't see one ngl

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I didn't even start exploring the new map

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opened the statues and dipped

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bruh

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what about koitar in the amsvartnir quest?

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did she appear tho

distant citrus
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And best lore drop too

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At the top platform

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You gotta climb the walls

tawdry blade
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Is there a link for her song

golden sluice
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oh so she's alive

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I saw people say Reed Miller is still alive

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is that true

distant citrus
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Nope she says she's waiting for the fated reunion

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So definitely not dead

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Hmm? Where?

golden sluice
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there's bloondstained knight lore?

distant citrus
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I didn't find it yet

golden sluice
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oh so he wasn't like that because of the cataclysm?

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the cataclysm just made it worse?

distant citrus
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Oh you said cataclysmC_TaoHehe
I was wondering how that make sense

golden sluice
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my type

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even better ✌️

distant citrus
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Wait was the note in that wolf quest?

golden sluice
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how was he friends with rostam if he's that way

distant citrus
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Yeah I remember that then

golden sluice
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no no I meant

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he was friends with Rostam

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and u said he was psycho since the start

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they're not mutually exclusive but ig that makes more sense

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I assumed he'd be as honorable as rostam

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maybe, all I know judging from thet reddit post I sent you

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the experiments he did in NK have a reason

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and we've yet to see the reason behind them

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just like the experiments he did in Sumeru

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he showed why did he did them in NK

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what purpose did the hollows do

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nothing

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nothing we know of yet

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that wasn't made clear

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and we don't know what's the purpose of the experiments inside them

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yeah

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must be the next time appears

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we'll know the purpose of those experiments

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he was still conducting them while he had the artifical marrow

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that's one more thing that bothers

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if he's able to make an artificial marrow

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why didn't he just steal two and make one instead of kidnapping Columbina

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it was definitely possible since she didn't have the trilunar authority back then

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yes what did I say

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he can steal those two and make a third

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kidnapping Columbina was questionable

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since he was able to make a third one without her

brisk estuary
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Oh btw what happened of the tsaritsa arrives from ps?

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Am i missing something but i didn't saw the tsaritsa anywhere in the AQ

final oracle
gray raven
tawdry blade
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It's space dust

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Also,how strong is Asmoday seal that even trilunar couldn't fully lift the restrictions damn

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Also the element buff wheel visual look like the text box neat pillar of embla or something

distant citrus
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And he needed the initial marrow to begin with to make a copy

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When?

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Alright one more week then
Hopefully it comes

pallid otter
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Wait, so the Welkin Moon we've seen this whole time is canonically Canon?

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It's canonical?

tawdry blade
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Shit,I have to speed run AQ otherwise I will be late for the weekly quest

distant citrus
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This screen appeared two times C_TaoHehe
One at the moon where we sit besides columbina
And other with varka epilogue along with the glitch...

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@ashen ocean

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I didn't even notice until I saw the post on internet

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Went back to check and yeah it does occur two times

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Either that or the damage on the border is too big...I mean playable nicole has to have some relevance maybe this is it

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There was a datamine with 10 acts right? We only got 8 so 2 still missing

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Definitely will continue with Nicole update

tawdry blade
distant citrus
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Ye I imagine it's related to irminsul or something instead

tawdry blade
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It is about time we get more abyss and Celestia story content

tawdry blade
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I think it is likely Irminsul related issue actually

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We also have characters that break the 4th wall like Alice and Nicole ,and they are not affected by Irminsul

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The 'glitching" screen was also in the Irminsul memory playback

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Everything point to Irminsul

modern bluff
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bruh wtf did dain do to king irmin man

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Besides killing him i guess

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how did irmin become irminsul and all that

somber dagger
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oh dottore fans are delusional

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theres an ongoing theory that varka saying hes here for the moon in the nod krai teaser is dottore in disguise

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me too

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its so obvious

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the sumeru experiments lead to nos krai events

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whats the nod krai experiments gonna lead up to?

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also i forgot his goal is it human enhancement

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the plogisten ones

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like with the saurians

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have u done the bunker world quest

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i didnt pay too much attention

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all i remember is something about an entity thats convinced the world ended during the catalysm and that theres wasteland outside

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the treasure hunter lore in these recent world quests is so good

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i wish we got a playable treasure hoarder

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shouldve been jahoda

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i mean reading her backstory i dont wish that on her esp with the seahook gang thing

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but wow we couldnt get A treasure hoarder

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she used to be apart of the seahook gang and from what i remember there was this super important like necklace that

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pr ykw

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ykw

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lemme reread

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im forgetting important details

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ok so jahoda was taken in by the seahook gang as a kid

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but she lwky didnt have the heart for allat like one time they stole a necklace

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and jahoda stole it back and ran to return that shit

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no

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omg why would they do that

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anyways

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when jahoda grew up she was moving like crazy like she was sneaking up on ppl like crazy

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she was assasinating and shit

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cuz theres this dude called ratfan who was using his wealth to hire members of the seahook gang to kill their boss

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and jahoda knew she had to snipe that yute

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if she didnt stumble on the roof she woulda beheaded him

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anyways shes getting jumped but shes tryna walk it off

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still tracking down raftan

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everyone thought this was some master assasin but raftan knew it was simply a clumsy lil girl

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so now they negotiate

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jahodas about to put her life on the line

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oh baby here it comes

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hes trying to bribe her but jahodas alr locked in hes #cooked

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the guy who turned the gang against each other

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AYYYY TIMESKIP TO NEFER

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QUEEN

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oh hes gone

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jahoda cranked a 90

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i think

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idk

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maybe its implied nefer bloomed him

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oh my goodness ur so old

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anyways

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cuz now this is nefer finding her

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jahodas covered in wounds

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and nefers like “it seems like you cant afford the outstanding sum”

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which im assuming is the sum of getting help from the curitorium

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jahoda insists to work for her but nefer at first keeps declining

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OHHHH

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NEFER HELPED JAHODA TRACK DOWN RAFTAN

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OK

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LEMME PIECE IT TOGETHER

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yea

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thats the sum nefer was talking about

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ok

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anyways

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now shes recommending jahoda to become a treasure hoarder

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or a member of the adventurers guild

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even asked if she wanted to leave nod krai

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but jahoda said no

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after allat nefer finally took her in

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jahoda works to repay nefer for saving her life and helping her snipe raftan

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aww timeskip to jahoda as an employee

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she ran into the merchant that she returned the necklace to when she was a kid

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jahoda gets flashbacks to her traumatic childhood but then looks up to her future in the curitorium

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they still havent mentioned the arm

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huh

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he thanked her for what she did

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omg her vision story is funny

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nefer started a fake rumor that she had a vision because it makes her business looks better

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so jahoda wore a little cyan crystal for a while and it rlly did get her higher paying taks

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and then she went to sleep, sleep-talked about having a vision, and then woke up with one

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a fake vision

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according to nefer “nobody except vision wielders will notice”

long crest
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@ashen ocean regarding the abyssal power in rerir's body having faded away over time

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this is when bina explains her plan to the moon goddesses

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tldr: rerir's body survives because of kuvaahki right
and his soul survives because of the prison's soul preserving abilities

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but the abyss?

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that faded away over time

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yes, but not enough to fuck him up

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not enough to influence his mind any longer

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another theory is that ved can't reach him in there

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the prison could be like, the one thing that shields him from ved

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since it was made by nibelung to be the ultimate prison

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so in a sense, for all the awful shit that prison will do to him

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it might actually also allow him to continue his existence in as peaceful a state as he could get

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which is kind of nice

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power wise she mogs him super hard

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but

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shes benevolent

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he isnt

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yes ofc
that's literally the source of her power

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istaroth gets her power from our space ship

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which is the most op thing we know of

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tldr: shes op af and mogs vedrfolnir easily

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she also mogs everyone else cuz she pretty af, true and real

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the only thing she struggles with is getting permission from phanes

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that's the only thing holding her back

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no

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ved doesnt give a hek about phanes
but he just isnt as strong as her

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he isnt

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not even remotely close

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he's a time agent
he can observe time flow and influence local things

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very very powerful

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but istaroth is Time itself, she governs the whole system across teyvat

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the difference is scale

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same with ronova vs rerir

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ronova currently directly controls the kill command tech from our ship

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and istaroth controls the time tech

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what ved and rerir have are crude, local imitations of that tech

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fueled by abyssal energy

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the power is the same but not the scale

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again, scale is the difference here

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ved cannot delete time and all histories and all souls from teyvat with a flick of his wrist

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istaroth can

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that is the difference

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why would a sinner care about the rules

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we dont see rerir care about the rules at all

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rerir did his utmost to kill as many things as possible

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yes he did lol, guy was a menace

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again, you're talking power level, im talking intent
rerir does not give a flying hek about PO's rules

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and neither does ved

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or rhine

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or surtalogi

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do you think rhinedottir gave a shit about PO's rules when she created 200 abyss dragons that lay waste to civilizations?

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again, you're grasping at straws here
why did the shades lay down the proverbial hammer on khaenriah if they think the sinners were following the rules?

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they were breaking the rules

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so they were put down

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does that sound to you like the sinners care

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about following rules

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then how did surtalogi leave teyvat

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and yet he was able to leave

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from within

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nibelung was on home turf

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on the topic of bakunawa

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the only reason istaroth were having issues with it is because PO's rules forbid her from taking care of it

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i think

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and thats why she had venti do it for her

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no she can, but shes not allowed to

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a sliver of her power was given to Venti

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and with it, he blew it off the timeline

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again

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venti

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an archon

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was able to blow bakunawa away from the timeline, using a fraction of istaroths powers

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which means

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if given permission

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istaroth could have chokeslammed bakunawa continuously until the end of time itself

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without even a thought

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clearly not, or she wouldnt have had to gift her power to someone else

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i think it all revolved around permission

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she couldnt do it openly

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yeah sure, but it still remains the case that a fraction of her power chokeslammed it

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ergo

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she solos it

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hard

modern bluff
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Woah woahhh where we getting all this Ved and Istaroth powerscaling

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Insane

long crest
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yes but indefinitely postponed is the same as winning

surreal dome
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@ashen ocean do we know anything new about lohen

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Is bro too goated or what

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🥀

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He is the 4th captain?

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Im trying to learn about this lohen fellow

modern bluff
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French lore....

surreal dome
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So 6.5 is 100% lohen

modern bluff
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Fine I'll go look at narcissenkruz ordo lore rq

surreal dome
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Wonder what his element is

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If they wanna make hex core

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Idt he will be hydro/cryo

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Since it doesnt work for durin

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Interesting to see

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If he is a 5* anyway

modern bluff
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No i got that from the msq, but idk where saying istaroth and ved were on par of strength

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Both as a shade and sinner at full potential

surreal dome
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Nah im certain it will be

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5.5 got new map

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4.5 too iirc

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Can you send

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Im forced to skip 2 patch back to back

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🥀

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You know whats even funnier

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Nicole potentially being a support for varka and lohen ( if he is standard ) and all of them is probably gonna be ass

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🥀

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💀

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Im not gonna go there

modern bluff
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Ahh the abyss order right

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Oh yea and that ring that prevents erosion

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Hmmm

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Ok man bro is insane

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The fact that one sinner ate a shade and the HP didnt wake up

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Nor did a sinner becoming a phenomenon

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Or even appearing on teyvat even if it was in the past

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Or if fate is being threatened

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What was his deal again

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I feel theyre more workarounds/cheating of fate while following fate's guidelines

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Ahhh

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If dottore ever became properly playable

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I feel he wouldnt have the name Zandik anymore

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To prevent himself from tying himself to that name and that fate

golden sluice
long crest
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how do you actually get the option to have bina take her eye mask off?

golden sluice
analog merlin
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Hmm... I have a stupid thought: What if Zandik and Zandar One Kuwabara are one and the same, considering they both made multiple segments scattered across worlds? Dottore didn't say he came from some world, and is a constant liar with an ego bigger than the whole universe, just like the creator of Nous.

pallid otter
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Theory: Each Lunar reaction is based on a different Moon Goddess's power (i.e. the Frost Moon is Lunar Bloom)

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Columbina now uses all three, because she's the Trilune Goddess, but her original power was Lunar Bloom, hence her CA

outer kraken
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That would make sense but we lack evidence to connect the reactions if we use your example that would mean the frost moon has the power of/over life

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Cause dendro could represent life

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And kuhvaki affecting life forms

outer kraken
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The trilunar authority is the light realm stuff

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So we can assume weilders can prism or concentrate the energy at will having access to all 7 elements

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It's not far fetched dottore already knows how to do that himself that's why we see him using cryo

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Bina just could have more affinity towards the lunar elements and she's most comfortable with dendro

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Game design wise

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We won't be getting more than the 7

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Lore wise ye it's def what they say their powers are

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We can but ifl hoyo doesn't want to

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It's a they could but won't situation

tawdry blade
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It is so fishy that HP left a single moon alive

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Maybe HP did aware of the imprisonment but dont know how to access it

distant citrus
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or they had seen that in the future they would need the moon to hide the traveler's spaceship so they left one and threw it out of the orbit

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or that 4th moon won't be born without it

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everything is part of the plan trust istaroth A_HuPray

distant citrus
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Alright from now on Nicole will be referred as Nicola coco C_TaoHehe

distant citrus
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What's the point of traveler new skin if they won't show up in quests A_HuPensive

tawdry blade
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I just hope we will use it in future AQ atleast...

brisk estuary
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Tbh the i really liked the idea that columbina was the one who created nod krai in it's entirety and was responsible for everything that has happened till now

distant citrus
#

Wierd I was doing this wq and apparently the time shown was 450 years ago? Mad monk episode happened 450 years ago then?

brisk estuary
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I haven't done it ig?

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Plus this is one of the examples of teyvat has it's own laws

distant citrus
#

Then why mention young solovie? Shouldn't he be old at that point?

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One of the logs

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Nvm I understand now

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It was in past tense not present

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And the boss said it not the logs

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Morozov

distant citrus
#

@ashen ocean Brahe's Notes (II) confirm that khanerrian disaster occurred after Tsar's death basically
So ye Tsaritsa should be the archon at that time

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Hmm? Where's pohjola mentioned?

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And it looks like Tsar died in khanerria too...apparently sacrificed himself

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No the notes mention Dmitri died alongside Tsar in khanerian disaster

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Yes so during cataclysm

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Yeah I don't understand it it's very confusing

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"Dmitri Dubrovich Sukhotin, trusted aide of the Grand Duke Filipov, third-class military officer, Chief Instructor of the Snezhnayan Royal Military Academy. If I remember correctly, he was promoted to this position the year Avrelian enrolled, occupying said cushy, lucrative position until the Khaenri'ahn disaster.
According to official records, he had long since died alongside His Majesty the Tsar, sacrificing himself for the nation."

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I guess it was false report then?

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because Dmitri was still alive

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It's talking about region not person

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It doesn't explicitly says that

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He could've survived until khanerrian disaster

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What whereabouts he sacrificed himself during that time

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It is in Brahe notes

distant citrus
#

@ashen ocean done with the quest
So the name Reed Miller was shared by 3 people
The original being Avrelian, then Alia and then finally Brahe

gray raven
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@ashen ocean have you done the koitar hidden exploration thing

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is it long? how do you trigger it

tawdry blade
#

so seelie are geometry + light realm power

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so many hexagon, triangle

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so did anyone confirm if the crumbling sound is real at all?

long crest
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@ashen ocean btw

21.jpeg
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food for thought

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they added the saving thing to the quest

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but might also have added a lore explanation to it

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with us being in a simulation still

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or maybe it's something else, who knows

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we also still have dottores curse

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something is sus af rn

distant citrus
#

Maybe dottore transferred his soul into the irminsul or something before his body died? And that's why the glitch occurs because it's a contamination in irminsul...or something

gleaming sinew
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nod krai is officially my top 1 aq followed by sumeru then doesnt matter

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its not because of dottore, im not a dottore simp

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its the writing A_smolhutao

tawdry blade
# long crest <@765806676111917096> btw

No,it is because you legit CANT leave without reset everything until Traveler is free,the quest is just that long. It is the first time they made quest that long so it make sense

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I was so sleepy but thank god they added that

tawdry blade
tawdry blade
gleaming sinew
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why didnt we learn?

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surreal dome
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@ashen ocean do we know who linnea even is

tawdry blade
#

@ashen ocean did u do the Fontaine WQ

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Ah no

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The new one

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Voiced

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For some reason

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I see

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All those voiced dialogs should have been used for the NodKrai WQA_smolhutao

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Oh

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It is Neuvilette skin quest

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Yelan one should be permanent too ngl

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Also,uh

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The special melusine that speak vishap and whatever also appeared

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Oh Pahsiv

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Her voice is cute,in Chinese at least

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LaumeA_WheezeTao

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The original Lauma

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This quest is longer than the Rotwang WQ

#

Yep

#

The end teased Neuvilette bringing the melusine group to Liyue

surreal dome
#

Im on the roland train rn

#

Lose all hope for varka unless v2 and v3 slap back

#

So is there any new stuff about sandrone

#

What happend to her

#

She is back on fontaine right

#

Who is assigned to fix her?

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Is there even someone who can

#

Who is her juniors

#

Like

#

Her fatui soldier?

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I wonder what element

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Geo would be nice icl

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I wanted geo dps

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Never have one

#

What is sandrone goals even

#

In fatui

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Despressed robot missing her maker

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True

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Isnt he

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A clone after clone

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Is that a clanker?

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Idk

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Puppet doesnt strike me

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As a clanker

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Is core a ram though

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That is just

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Machine language

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Yes but durin heart isnt a ram

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I hope sandrone support is anything but 4*

#

Im not going into 6 month and my 4* still at c4

#

Actually you are right

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Unless she is a hex

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Nothing comes before her that isnt a hex

#

Obviously unless she is the support

#

Nothing indicates being her support though

#

Like

#

Linnea is the only non hex related

#

Yes i mean that

#

If sandrone is the dps

#

Nothing before her indicates a strong 5* support for her

#

Since its all hex

#

Unless ofc nicole is usable outside of hex

#

Thats before the bundle meta

#

So i wont rely too much on it

#

Anyway

#

I hope her element is geo or electro

#

Why?

#

Is he actually coming

#

Explain

distant citrus
#

I hope she isn't hex A_HuPensive

#

Nicole

surreal dome
#

What is antembura

distant citrus
#

I want her to be universal buffer aka big Bennett C_HuPepeSmile

surreal dome
#

Oh

#

And what is mistilteinn

#

Why is bro out there naming his sword

#

💀

#

Well capitano is my most fav character in the game

#

I hope he is playable

#

Capitano male
Clorinde female

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My 2 fav character for each gender

#

Is linnea important enough to be

#

5*

#

Atp i think you call everyone important

#

Wym by “has”

#

The device is sneg?

#

Or what

#

@ashen ocean maybe capitano is 7.x dps and have tsaritsa as his cryo support

#

So he isnt a nightsoul dps

#

Is his aura stuff is nightsoul?

#

Capitano seems kinda different though

#

It got some black dust iirc

#

Yeah the black dust

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White nightsoul

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Black dust

tawdry blade
#

The letter is next to the intimation of 3 moon god giving 4th moon their power too

#

possible nail location?

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slender haven
#

Can't have shit

gray raven
#

@ashen ocean isn't columbina's birth still a mystery?

tawdry blade
#

so hyperborea just go boom by itself?

#

i see

gray raven
#

Can the HP really be considered a protector of humanity when they've killed so many humans?

tawdry blade
#

oh yeah,is varka merging with boreus guaranteed to happen?

tawdry blade
#

damn,she can work at mc donald with this resume

gray raven
#

did you all go to our room in the flagship

vocal dagger
tawdry blade
#

Just realised, Dottore is the only humanoid boss that have playable standard death animation

#

The other just teleport or disappear

craggy mist
#

Glad Pashiv plotline got a bow on it.

#

Just took like 18 months.

gray raven
craggy mist
#

whee. A_HuLay

tawdry blade
#

i think some people misunderstanding columbina "i dont believe in endings" line in general. It is not exlusive to dottore,after all most quest have to be continueE_KEKpat

gray raven
#

wasn't she quoting sandrone before that

modern bluff
#

they ask if bina believes in happy endings

#

bina replies that she doesnt believe in endings

#

i think it can mean a lot of things to a bunch of different charas but it screams "the stories of characters are not complete/done yet"

#

her own is arguably not completed yet, even if she did get the trilunar authority back and is finally accepted by teyvat

#

how the other archons and world around her will see or accept her is another thing

gray raven
modern bluff
#

damn

#

guess i mixed it up

#

🥀

tawdry blade
#

🥀

distant citrus
#

@ashen ocean did you read "Letter buried in time capsule"?

tawdry blade
tawdry blade
distant citrus
#

There's this line in that

"We are currently exploring the secrets of life. After relentless experimentation, we have finally mastered the Tekhneikos of tailoring and refining the Seeds of Life. Now, new humans born after such "adjustments" can wield elemental forces at will."

What do you think?

#

It wasn't fae but humans themselves who were experiment on
Now I'm not sure if fae are just newly formed humans or if there were others...

#

Fae can control elements right? So they too were once humans then

#

And not entirely different species

tawdry blade
#

basically oceanid without the sin

distant citrus
#

@ashen ocean Maybe now I understand why fae noble had superiority complex

#

They were literally hyperborean humans who got enhanced C_TaoHehe

tawdry blade
#

can they use all the element at the same time is the question B_ZhongHmm

distant citrus
#

Probably

tawdry blade
#

i guess it would take a toll on their body

distant citrus
#

Did you not read what I just sent? A_HuPensive

Also this quote from Flins now make sense

"I am reminded of an age when both the fae and humans roamed free in Snezhnaya. Our races share many things in common, and I once presumed that we must share a similar ancestry."

#

His presumption were right

#

They were once the same human

slender haven
#

The Genshin fanbase finally made an original meme

distant citrus
#

"We are using the latest Mekhaneikos to raise a tower that reaches the heavens. How tall it stands! It's like we could reach out and pierce the sky itself. The Lord of the Heavenly City, once revered as a god by our ancestors... We are about to knock upon its gates. What will it think of this? Will it marvel at the speed of our progress, or be enraged by our insolence? Either way, it makes no difference. The great arrows we have forged stand ever ready to defend our civilization."

Hyper(confident)boreans C_TaoHehe

tawdry blade
#

the great arrow when the humble Asmoday cover their weapon in cube

distant citrus
#

Yeah that's what I thought too until now

#

Yes

#

"After relentless experimentation, we have finally mastered the Tekhneikos of tailoring and refining the Seeds of Life."

So maybe they used them as components for refining or something?

tawdry blade
#

Did Enka give any quets item btw

distant citrus
gray raven
#

new music in this AQ is so good

tawdry blade
#

Hm,from Chasm,we have gadgets as the exploration item

#

Chasm with glowing stone, Remuria with Music Box, Liloupar. All fit their nation lore. I guess hyperborea would have scifi technology as a gadget

limber yarrow
#

Halfway the second AQ; I must apologize Mihoyo, I did not expect you to actually pull off a time paradox. I did not know your game

tawdry blade
#

Might be a stretch but Angels seem to have adaptation ability similar to Skirk planet.

#

The one in Koitar castle adapted to the weird geometry light power

limber yarrow
#

Bro do be having aura

SPOILER_image.png
#

Imma say it

#

They cooked with this climax

#

That shit was absolute cinema

#

10/10, if Furina didn't exist that shit would've been peak, but there can only be one GOAT

#

And Varka finally rescued himself from aura debt. The fuck you mean he can pull down the moon through the firmament?!

#

YOu mean to say that if he's near the mountains of Mondstadt he can just pull off the mountain top and yeet it at a motherfucker?

#

This motherfucker actually Fujitora in disguise?

#

Currently sitting through all the obligatory "yey we did it" stuff after Dottore got folded like a blanket

#

Why these fuckers be trying to aura farm

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long crest
#

@ashen ocean um whose eyes is this

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limber yarrow
long crest
#

yep

limber yarrow
#

Drip acquired

image.png
#

Bout fuckin time we ditched that shit-ass fit

#

Lmao so we are literally only using 10% of our power

image.png
#

"The traveller is only as powerful as the plot allows" is now officially canon

#

Lil bro what you talking about there was nothing even vaguely objectionable about the epilogue

#

Pretty good curve ball with the travel logs, at the least

#

It's interesting; Nibelungen wasn't classed as a descender until the second time around; when he arrived with the very powers our sibling introduced to Khaenri'ah

#

Yeh?

#

YOur point?

fossil furnace
#

moon sisters if they teased it two years ago:

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limber yarrow
#

I didn't?

#

Might be a red hering, might be something significant, but it was already said that our little moongrab fucked with the boundaries of Teyvat and alerted outside forces to the presence of Teyvat

#

No, the order of things has been:

The reign of Nibelungen -> Nibelungen fucks off to outside Teyvat -> First descender comes, deals with the moon gods, stomps on the sovereigns and turns their spleens into hats -> Nibelungen comes back big mad and introduces the Abyss to Teyvat; this somehow reclassifies him as the second descender -> Nibelungen gets roflstomped -> The third descender shows up and gets his shit stomped in and his ribs turned into paperweights -> Archon war -> Fall of Khaenri-ah -> We arrive

#

No, the descender is specifically an entity from outside of Teyvat that transcends the laws of it

#

That is still him getting stomped

#

But for me that is actually very interesting; did Nibelungen find the travellers ship and wake our sibling?

#

Did the Sibling teach Nibelungen about the Abyss

#

And most importantly; why were the siblings sent on this voyage to begin with

tawdry blade
limber yarrow
#

Didn't you read the last part of the mission;

The ship log confounded the traveller because they showed that they had been in stasis for millenia, and that their first stop in Teyvat was millenia ago, rather than centuries

long crest
#

he was also experimenting with putting human souls into animals

limber yarrow
#

You'd expect that the Traveller would have at any point mentioned a third passenger

#

I don't recall that ever happening

#

And the twist that there actually was one all along would at this point be a lot more comical than dramatic

#

No, they were going across the stars and passed by Teyvat twice, stopping once and crashing on the second go

long crest
#

they didnt orbit

tawdry blade
#

I think they think it is broken

long crest
#

MC says flight logs say they made 2 passes over teyvat

tawdry blade
#

I suppose the AI set us up

long crest
#

it is a little confusing yeah

#

the first pass was definitely phanes' descension

#

that's when shit hit the fan for the dragons

#

and then humanity is slowly being built up

#

then the ship passes by again, but now it is unclear what happened

tawdry blade
#

Where is it said Pierro brought the ship down?

long crest
#

we dont know if it was pierro right

#

it was khaenriah tho

#

they made a summoning

limber yarrow
#

Oh damn boi thanks for pointing me to that costume lore that stuff is tasty god damn

long crest
#

bros literally did a 10 pull and got our sibling on the first try ✊ 😔

limber yarrow
#

A rogue AI yearning to create a paradise in a new world?

#

MiHoYo can't stop cooking

long crest
#

phanes did exactly what it was designed to do

#

which is to chokeslam planets into submission

#

take the planet over, make it suitable for human life

#

and create a fortress world

limber yarrow
long crest
#

yes

tawdry blade
long crest
#

the key difference to how phanes' original plan was laid out and what actually happened, was the sibling summoning by khaenriah
that's what threw EVERYTHING off

limber yarrow
#

It's this kind of shit that has kept me emotionally invested in a fucking Gacha game for the last 6 fucking years

tawdry blade
#

Phanes go down 》 Set ship on autopilot but when the ship pass Teyvat again, force it to shut down and crash》 most likely plan to create a civilization first before waking the twin

long crest
#

no no

#

the problem here is that the sibling was yeeted down by khaenriah

#

they kidnapped the sibling and told them of khaenriah's story

limber yarrow
#

So the Primordial one was actually a super computer that created the 4 principles from the gene vault? Peak shit, honestly

tawdry blade
long crest
#

and crucially, here is the kicker: Khaenriah got the sibling on their side.

#

this is BAD for phanes

limber yarrow
#

"The First Descender started the Age of Humans"

God damn, such peak

#

And that is why the Heavenly Principles cannot go after the siblings directly

long crest
#

khaenriah, the underdog faction trying to fight the AI overlord, just recruited one of two beings said AI overlord is beholden to

tawdry blade
#

AI overlord creating even more AI

long crest
#

this presented a problem for phanes:
it cannot go against the traveler's wishes because of its primary directive, because of its innate love for them
so what does it do?
it disconnects its emotional module

tawdry blade
#

Like Alain said "Every world must have machine" when creating sandrone (I forgot what he said)

limber yarrow
#

Yeah mb I've been confusing the shades and HP

long crest
#

what is that emotional module? Paimon

#

Paimon is the emotional core of Phanes.

limber yarrow
long crest
#

It got disconnected, because otherwise Phanes could not go against the Sibling.

limber yarrow
#

Not just that, Paimon acts out its deepest desire to be not just a protector, but companion for teh siblings

long crest
#

is by our side whenever possible

limber yarrow
#

it's why Paimon keeps referring to herself as Teyvats greatest guide

long crest
#

also btw

limber yarrow
#

Because Paimon is literally there to make us few at home in the new garden

long crest
#

that whole spiel about emergency food?
Paimon is not emergency food for the traveler.
Paimon is emergency food for Phanes. In the sense that she can be reconnected to Phanes.

limber yarrow
#

But not recently, or knowingly, only intuitively, as if half remembered from a past dream

long crest
#

And right now Phanes is absolutely in an emergency.

limber yarrow
#

And he probably be bringing Surtalogi with him

long crest
#

im not sure
i think it's more likely that the careful castle walls it setup are crumbling all around it

tawdry blade
#

Who invited bro

long crest
#

but basically

#

Phanes needs the traveler, our MC, to put on their crown.

#

Phanes is done for. Bro is sleeping.

#

Running out of energy

#

Barely able to keep it together.

#

It needs us to take over in its stead.

#

And it can only do so if Paimon is reconnected to it.

limber yarrow
#

But I really like the characterization of Phanes; this deeply caring motherly figure that is forced by her programming to do something she finds loathsome, and ripped herself in twain to accomodate both her objectives and desires

#

Bro, my appreciation for all that fucking setup Hoyo has been doing just tripled over the course of an hour

long crest
#

The basic story is fairly simple, but the obfuscation is the impressive part

limber yarrow
#

We are the chosen inheritors of a garden a mechanical mother made for us, yet we have chosen to spurn our legacy and her, rebelling against her design and rejecting our crown

long crest
#

Where they layer the obfuscation in like 200 sheets of worldbuilding lore taken from real world religions

#

Where different deities, angel names, myth references all coalesce into a network of arrows pointing at this basic story

limber yarrow
#

6 years of careful drip and then weaving it together with 3 paragraphs of costume lore

long crest
#

But basically, Paimon is doomed.

#

She will sacrifice herself to make sure Phanes is able to get its love for the traveler back

#

And thus able to come to its senses

tawdry blade
limber yarrow
#

And that's why the Heavenly Principles has been sleeping. It lost its primary function when the Sibling rebelled

long crest
#

like rly bad

#

the shades went ham on Khaenriah for a reason

limber yarrow
#

It kept the other sibling in stasis until it solved the equation, finally ripping itself apart and starting our journey

long crest
#

like

#

historically the shades have not intervened that often

#

usually it has been abyssal nails

limber yarrow
#

The AI is tweaking the fuck out and lost control of its own design

long crest
#

not shade intervention

limber yarrow
#

Hence Asmoday going away, the close associated of the Sibling somehow being punished with immortality, Rheindottir subsuming the shade of life and so on and so forth.

It is lost, it cannot see a winning strategy anymore because the primary objectives are conflicting

#

The Heavenly Principles will only wake when they have an answer yet again

#

Exactly;

Claim it as their home, and more immortantly, denounce the abyss

#

The abyss is the anathema to the AI

#

The Twins are two sides of the same coin, made to control both dark and light; the essential properties of creation. And the AI has a level of governance over how much we can controll it

long crest
#

pov: you're a khaenriahn evildoer about to get cosmically chokeslammed by a planetary kill command

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#

ronova is basically the kill command from our ship in physical form

limber yarrow
long crest
#

the weaponry part

#

it's the dr manhattan gif

limber yarrow
#

Huh, good point; the shades are disembodied weapon systems of an immeasurably advanced civilization, then?

long crest
#

or rather, the shades are part of the terraforming powers that phanes possess

#

it's a terraforming ship after all

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and ronova is in charge of the "that thing needs to go away" portion of that suite of powers

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Growth, decay, pace control and debris clearance

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It's actually a good point; Ronova's curse as applied to Capitano represents permanent decay, not death

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i would not be surprised if ronova could destroy the entire planet

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we already know our ship could chokeslam a star into shape if need be

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based on the outfit description

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destroying Teyvat is well within range of the level of power

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and right now Ronova is in charge of that

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It nodiffed the fucking moons

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yeah

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it is not a problem for her

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the only problem is being permitted

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And by all indication, reshaped their power into the shades of time and space

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which is why it is hella good that Ronova is the only shade still doing her goddamn job

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lmao

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Which by all accounts is keeping everyone who knew the SIlbing on a first names bases on the census for some reason

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the moons are just tools that nibelung used

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Oh yeah good point

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it is possible that phanes used the moons as a framework when making all the subsystems yeah

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element system is a reverse engineered design after all

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We just need to rip Naberius core out of Gold 🙏

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well, it probably didnt hurt to make it fairly similar to teyvat's native systems

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for better compatibility

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so basically

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when doing any powerscaling tc

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just remember that phanes > all and shades > everything else

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just on account of these things coming from our ship

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that ship was the most broken op thing

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And the reason why the Traveller is so absolutely fucking cracked when the plot demands it is because we literally are the sovereign of this world

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yeah

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however, right now we're currently missing our mjolnir and titles

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phanes did an odin

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stripped us of our powers and titles

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imagine raiden tried to kill us and ronova goes apeshit on her

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holy

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also

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this further cements the fact that istaroth is the GOAT

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Did Raiden know that we are alien btw

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the time, story and soul powers istaroth has

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are not dragon based or anything

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those come from our ship

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So basically, the conclusion of todays discussion is that our MC has been flying around in a big Infinity Guantlet guided by a dommy mommy who just wants to create the best possible home for us and therefor may or may have not committed a few thousand crimes against humanity

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It is not a crime if you killed your own creation C_HuPepeSmile

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shes one of the contenders for the admin room rat race we'll get btw

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Wait a minute;

Phanes is a Sophon.

The false sky is the heavenly principles

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Not PO fault E_RaidenLurk

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when phanes is about to get cooked
and all the factions around are vying for control over Teyvat's admin room
she is first in line to seize control

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Celestia may not actually exist

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i definitely think bakunawa is being setup for something