・genshin-spoilers

[slender haven]

He sends someone to beat Alberich I think

Technically Wagner wrote in the 1800s and just based it off Norse Mythology

But still

Yeah but I was just saying

[golden sluice]

how did u know

oh?

lemme see

since when does lantern rite have more than one cutscene

4 cutscences for aq are in part 2 of act 8 btw

Remaining one cutscence for aq is in part 3 of act 7

[golden sluice]

same

I hate this community man

[gray raven]

why

[long crest]

neuv upon seeing columbina

[tawdry blade]

"Your ancestors betrayed us"
"No ,your should have betray Nibelung instead"

[analog merlin]

The scene with Hu Tao's sacrifice and revival, each with their dedicated cutscene.

[long crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945309630077214741/1448680071769493698/424.gif?ex=693c23f4&is=693ad274&hm=9b1e9b49f46049c322d57d13753931fed297c4c435662c873163d202b6f5a403&

[tawdry blade]

so if u have welkin and log out at silverhall,coming back you can hear columbina singing again

I wonder if it is more than just an Easter egg

[somber dagger]

TEARS IN MY SANDBINA HEART

I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT THEM ALL DAY

[somber dagger]

im trying this today

bro

sandbina is ruininf me unironically

all i can think about these past 2 weeks

[tawdry blade]

https://youtu.be/VkYJ9AfSyrY?si=PyryUosWbAVIyeaC

Damn they remove the embed

[somber dagger]

I LITERALLY HAD TO STOP EVERYTHING I WAS DOING WHEN I SAW THAT

CANCELED ALL MY PLANS FHAT DAY

YES MAN

AND THIS IS CHINESE CENSORSHIP WATERED DOWN SLOP YURI

IM SCARED OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME IF I READ AN ACTUAL YURI

fun fact the most viewed genshin fan content is a video of columbina and sandrone kissing

if i read doomed yuri im afraid id be ranting about it to the lord himself

you havent seen THE holy grail

unc doesnt know ball

you dont know about how columbina comforts sandrone

i thought wveryone knew about this video

its like the best genshin fan animation of all time and its literalky them kissing for like under 10 seconds

like this shit is so perfect

like its so iconic somebody got it on their keyboard somehow

its so iconic when zy0x went thru his liked posts he was caught liking the sandbina video

COSPLAYERS EVEN RECREATED TS

|| https://x.com/nomianims/status/1980071290112524656?s=46 ||

Nomi (@nomianims)

How Columbina comforts Sandrone when she's in a bad mood ❤️❤️

X · Oct 20, 2025, 12:39 AM

22 million views on ts

its like genshins bible

same amount of influence as that one hu tao fansong where zhongli got a verse

like this is so serious to the people

i wouldnt even be shocked if someone from hoyo has seen it before

[tawdry blade]

It is not

The uh, DMC pfp guy animation are the best as they are funny

Oh,22 millions on X

Yeah not surprised given how view count work there

It returned now for some reason

Oh I thought you mean the embed of the YouTube link

Was you at her cave?

Like fr?

You have to wait for next reset

Just log out in her cave

[somber dagger]

shut up

its not gonna happen

put that shit on my soul idc

[tawdry blade]

Im less concerned that he is playable knowing he will be sanctified

[somber dagger]

GUYS

THE EASTER EGG

ITS REAL

I PROMISE ITS REAL

i canr send it on discord so ill upload it on yourube and send a link

https://youtu.be/p0C9cpA-oeM?si=nHKV0B9lNaDN-dFf

the welkin song

[tawdry blade]

Wish Natlan have cool easter egg

Something like Fontaine fountain

I mean the "Bakunawa " easter egg wasnt even Bakunawa

Cuz bro is in another dimension

Oh that

I mean.. it is permanent

Would be better if it is something that disappear when you finished aq

Also it is more like a cool sight than an Easter egg,Easter egg is something you dont see or know about until a super random encounter

[distant citrus]

Does center of night kingdom count?

You only get that once you complete all the nightsoul boss challenge once

You can hear the dialogue of previous archons memories in that area

Whenever was the last of those challenges released

Last expansion was 5.5? Then yes

[tawdry blade]

Diluc is batman after all

[distant citrus]

When I'm on glazing competition and my opponent is

[tawdry blade]

Give him prep time and even Celestia fall to their knee

[golden sluice]

let them be

Diluc mains have been on that high since the game's release

can't wait for them to reveal it was a 14yo Tartaglia who beat his ass

[tawdry blade]

Tbf,14 yo Tartaglia was trained by a God like girl so it was still impressive for diluc

[golden sluice]

there's nothing impressive shit was done before he even realised he was fighting a 14yo

ong

[tawdry blade]

14 y/o with special training

[golden sluice]

point is

Diluc's washed

[tawdry blade]

You are giving Jotar flashback

[golden sluice]

that's what happens

when someone touches a single strand of hair of their waifu

🥀

there's no way people like Columbina this much

ifkr

like

[tawdry blade]

It isnt about hating dottore,it is tradition for them to edit scaramouche in everyone drop art...

[golden sluice]

wait I got a gif for it

[golden sluice]

what's Dottore's head doing there

[tawdry blade]

They used Dottore cuz Scaramoche dislike him,Illuga just happen to hold a lantern

[golden sluice]

not true

[tawdry blade]

So it is an opportunity

[golden sluice]

they never used Dottore's head

when editing Scara like that

they could've used anything else

[tawdry blade]

Cuz no one else is holding something

[golden sluice]

it's obviously hating Dottore after the recent archon quest

[tawdry blade]

Give me character art of them holding something that could be replace with a head

In a perfect pose too

[golden sluice]

you can't seriously be arguing that that's not Dottore hate after the revent archon quest

did you not see what they're doing?

[tawdry blade]

True but then,there is no character actually holding a polearm upwards lol

[golden sluice]

Emilie holding Dottore's head, the miliastra game

two games actually which entail

killing Dottore

the hate has been massive and still going since the last archon quest

[tawdry blade]

Dottore exist before the AQ,it has nothing to do with waifu

[golden sluice]

it does

people love her > Dottore hurts her > they hate Dottore

[tawdry blade]

Emilie one was out of place joke related to another joke

[tawdry blade]

Doesn't change that he was hated a lot in sumeru

[golden sluice]

explain why else all that Dottore hate art and miliastra games of killing Dottore were only made after the latest archon quest

https://tenor.com/view/greedy-man-starving-family-family-guy-funny-moments-john-goodman-gif-15843708855059928298

this is how hoyo is acting

[tawdry blade]

Cuz rerir did less crime than Dottore who experiment, a lot

[golden sluice]

with Columbina's ship teasing

[tawdry blade]

And we know about Zandik more than Rerir himself

[tawdry blade]

Because it is recent .. sumeru dottore hate slow down afterwards, doesn't mean it fully ended

[golden sluice]

as much as I hate Sandbina I'd rather have them shoved in my face 24/7 rather than one more second of seeing them do waifu slop with her and the traveler

[tawdry blade]

He did ,but it more about who we know more for a long time compare to a newborn villain

[tawdry blade]

You hate Traveler so that is expected

[golden sluice]

I hate his cardboard personality and

how they force him

in every interaction

hsr did something right when they let us saw povs of playable characters without tb being there

[tawdry blade]

Genshin did that too

[golden sluice]

not really

once or twice at most

[tawdry blade]

Yes

[golden sluice]

and it didn't last long

[tawdry blade]

Aside from that,most of the quest was literally planning to do thing of course Traveler will be in almost every interaction

In act 3 it was just Nefer

And act 4 too

[golden sluice]

idk what quest you're talking about

[tawdry blade]

6.1

[golden sluice]

I mean

not 6.1 specifically

but throughout every genshin quest less traveler would've been better

characters interacting with each other without him there is better

[tawdry blade]

But those quest are we dealing with crisis

What the point if Traveler who supposedly a Descender have no interaction ??

Or less

[golden sluice]

not 0 interactions

but less

characters would feel more like

characters if they exist when the traveler's not there

and half the time they keep glazing him

[tawdry blade]

Mortal glazing god,how unexpected

The fatui glaze their harbinger

And that is normal

They are working with an active savior of the world

[golden sluice]

more than half the glaze ain't even correct hoyo just catering to self insert

mizuki saying the traveler has the best mental state she's ever seen is absolute bs

[tawdry blade]

It is not bs cuz Traveler hasn't been depressed until recently

Seeing how Traveler pretty much become normal after big crisis

But yeah that's just how perspective work,the fatui glaze their harbinger and never talk about Traveler feat, the other glaze Traveler cuz half the time only Traveler and the archon can do shit

I'll focus on driving

[golden sluice]

it is bs, he was shown depressed and defeated multiple times, mizuki saying is bs because it's obviously made for self inserts

[golden sluice]

wdym the harbingers/Fatui glaze the traveler too, difference is when Fatui glaze their harbingers it's far more natural than playable characters glazing the traveler

same thing for favonius knights glazinf Varka

it's far more natural

it doesnt feel like catering to anyone

[tawdry blade]

And Traveler mentally stable again after

[tawdry blade]

I mean the fatui agents in general

Harbinger glaze Traveler for different reason and they are all valid,childe like Traveler cuz he is a good fight partner, Scaramoche doesn't glaze, Arlechinno also not but considered Traveler a trustworthy work partner. Capitano doesn't but respect us simply because he used to serve Princess, Signora.., Sandrone is also not? Who know,need to wait for 6.7(?)

[distant citrus]

I think the problem here is focusing on few character interaction which are focused on romance and ignoring every other interaction
And tbf though it's not new outrage either the fandom has been like this since ayaka

[tawdry blade]

At least ayaka one is understandable cuz no build up for the two at all

[distant citrus]

Every region has one or two
Ayaka, nilou, navia, citlali, mizuki, columbina
They try to make traveler pair with them in the story
And it's funny because some gets positive reception others don't

Nonetheless they still make those character properly fleshed out
It's just a lot of people don't look at that and just focus on traveler aspect

[distant citrus]

Were 4 star drip also animated before? I don't remember it before illuga...

Actually nvm it's ZZZ that does that

Done with the durin quest?

[golden sluice]

imagine getting muted

how many warnings to get muted

I got like 4 ig

[distant citrus]

For spoiler?

[golden sluice]

nah

I think cz I said

I'll

do stuff to myself

if Dottore dies

yeah

[distant citrus]

Ah got it yeah that word is banned

[golden sluice]

yeah

[golden sluice]

yo can one of u leak 6.3's story

🙏

[golden sluice]

I will end myself bro

[tawdry blade]

6.4 STORY LEAK\

An arrow hit Varka in the knee,now he is a regular guard of Mondstatd

[golden sluice]

the way I can see it happen

@ashen ocean https://x.com/KhaenriahCEO/status/1999439649509658705?s=20

Timely Khaenri'ah (@KhaenriahCEO)

We did it, without falling for the Celestia propaganda! 🎉

X · Dec 12, 2025, 11:22 AM

manifesting ts

with Dottore in there too

🙏

[slender haven]

Why tf is Pierro hydro

I feel like Pyro would make more sense ngl

Or maybe electro

We also need a dendro harbinger ngl but none of them really fit

[golden sluice]

idk him being playable is enough for me 😭

[golden sluice]

lowkey Dottore does

[slender haven]

Nah

Harbingers are never the same element as their region

[golden sluice]

never noticed that tbh

[slender haven]

Scara isn't electro
Sandrone isn't hydro
Pantalone probably won't be geo

And Tartaglia ain't cryo

[golden sluice]

are we sure Pantalone is from Liyue

[slender haven]

I mean like 90% he is

[golden sluice]

what's the basis

[slender haven]

He's hyperfixated on Morax

And mora in general

[golden sluice]

when did he say that again

[slender haven]

In Wriothesley's catalyst description and in the Pale Flame artifact set

[golden sluice]

I don't remember the Pale Flame's description about him tbh

I only remember Dottore's

what did the Wrio catalyst say about him

[slender haven]

Essentially he's pissed he didn't get a vision and thought money should be in the hands of humanity and not the gods

[golden sluice]

well nvm ill check myself thanks

[golden sluice]

yea I remember the vision part but not the mora part

he's right about the mora part tho

[slender haven]

Pantalone made the Credit Coupons in the Fortress of Meropede to test whether humans could use a currency that wasn't mora

[slender haven]

Kinda
But that's sort of why Zhongli quit also

[golden sluice]

oh that's him?

so peak

[slender haven]

Yeah

[golden sluice]

I remember seeing a description about its creator

but don't remember it being Pantalone

[slender haven]

I remember it being kind of a jumpscare lol
Like out of nowehere there was Pantalone lore

[golden sluice]

how did he do it exactly? was he ever in meropide's prison?

[slender haven]

He apparently got some help from Dottore or something

[golden sluice]

that's lowkey why I love Mond and Liyue endings the most

[golden sluice]

now you really gotta elaborate more

[slender haven]

The Fortress isn't under the control of Fontaine directly
So it's technically an independent country

And easier to control

[golden sluice]

so

Dottore inflitrated it and introduced

the coupons system?

under the instructions of Pantalone?

[slender haven]

I forget what Pants says exactly lemme look

[golden sluice]

alright

[slender haven]

He doesn't mention Dottore directly

He just says he got "credit" from someone to help run the experiment

This also means Pantalone might be immortal

[golden sluice]

why? how long ago was the coupons system introduced?

[slender haven]

Since before Wriothesley was a kid
And he's like 30 now

[golden sluice]

the fact he called it an experiment really eliminates the possibility

[golden sluice]

so before Wrio was in there?

[slender haven]

Yeah

[golden sluice]

hmm

Pantalone might be 50 years old at least

[slender haven]

He looks younger than Varka though

[golden sluice]

yeah

thats what i was about to say

[slender haven]

Something werid is going on there

[golden sluice]

and he shouldn't be able to control that much wealth in Teyvat without being really really old

[slender haven]

Yeah

I think he's probably the head of the Voynich Guild too

Since like, merchants are kind of his thing and all

[slender haven]

Eliminates?

[golden sluice]

wasn't that Nefer or is she just a huge figure

[slender haven]

No she's just the leader of the Curatorium
She's a member of the Voynich Guild not the leader

[golden sluice]

eliminiates the possibility of it being anyone other than Dottore

since experiments are his thing

[slender haven]

Yeah

And Dottore and Pants are partners

[golden sluice]

good

[golden sluice]

yeah

and as implied from

Sandrone's words

[slender haven]

Scaramouche's line

[golden sluice]

Pulcinella might be partnering with them too

at least he provides resources to Dottore

[slender haven]

Pants, Pulcinella, Arle, and Childe are all working on "Project Stuzha" too

[golden sluice]

it seems Arle is forcefully pulled in tho

[slender haven]

Pants and Pulcinella are the heads though

[slender haven]

Not forcibly

[golden sluice]

any idea what project Stuzha could be about?

[slender haven]

They can't order her to do anything

She chose to join despite the risks

[golden sluice]

she doesn't want in cz it'll impact the house of hearth I thought?

[slender haven]

She thinks Pulcinella might be doing it to sabotage her but will do it regardless

[slender haven]

Maybe something to do with Pantalone's plan to replace Mora
But that's lowkey boring and doesn't explain why they need combatants

So idk

Pulcinella might be a Fae so that could be involved too

[golden sluice]

huh I see

[golden sluice]

I remember Stuzha's translation being

turning the world into ice or something

ice age

[slender haven]

"Severe Winter Plan"

[golden sluice]

yeah

[slender haven]

That's it

[golden sluice]

I thought it would be something more

fantastical tbh

judging from its name

[slender haven]

I don't think it's turning the world to ice

Could have something to do with The Tsar maybe

[golden sluice]

like what

[slender haven]

But idk why Pantalone would care about that

[slender haven]

Using his power somehow or something

[golden sluice]

we'll see

I wonder if they're giving us more

clues

about it

in NK

[slender haven]

Maybe

But I just remembered, isn't the plot of Zibai going to be that Morax revives her somehow?
That could be foreshadowing for how Capitano gets revived

[golden sluice]

it is?

I thought she hates him

[slender haven]

No?

Where does it state that

[golden sluice]

not sure 🤔

could be mismembering it

[slender haven]

When Zhongli remembers her he just gets sad about time passing again

Cause he's old

[golden sluice]

she's dead?

[slender haven]

I mean maybe?
Her full story hasn't been confirmed yet
She also made a decision that confused even Istaroth apparently

[golden sluice]

yeah I saw that

in her drip marketing

[slender haven]

The decision could have been dying

Or something

[golden sluice]

what did she exchange

to retain a human form

instead of becoming a seelie

[slender haven]

To not become a seelie you just don't fall in love with anything technically

[golden sluice]

but Nicole

exchanged her voice no?

[slender haven]

Nicole became a "human" somehow though so she technically isn't a seelie

Not anymore

[golden sluice]

Zibai became a human too no?

[slender haven]

We don't know

Nabu remained an angel
That's why she never loved Deshret back
Cause she'd die

[golden sluice]

ah poor deshret

what about the

night kingdom angel

she's still an angel right

[slender haven]

She also doesn't love anyone
She's also mostly dormant

Nicole says she lost most of her power too

[golden sluice]

why did she lose most of her power

[slender haven]

Upholding the Night Kingdom took a lot out of her seemingly
Her existence is integral to maintaining it
That's why she let Cap take control cause he's immortal

[golden sluice]

ah alright

it seems I misunderstood the angels' lore

I thought they all get punished to lose their form

so is every seelie an angel who fell in love?

so she lost her form

[slender haven]

No only if they fall in love with something
Because Koitar loved Seutervoinen

[slender haven]

Not "falling in love" necessarily but "giving love that should be shared to all to one thing"
Essentially forming any personal connection kills them

So they just have to be super detached in order to not dissolve

[golden sluice]

seems like Nicole is fine but ig she's an exception since she

was

since she became a human yeah

[slender haven]

My guess is Rhinedottir made her human body

Would make sense

[golden sluice]

I don't think Rhinedottir would make her exchgane her vocie in return

[slender haven]

Could have been unwilling on Nicole's part idk

[golden sluice]

would be funny tho considering Albedo looks like her

[slender haven]

Yet another sibling for the pile

[golden sluice]

are ever getting more about that unicorn

[slender haven]

Probably since Rhinedottir's chess piece was a unicorn

Must have been her first creation

[golden sluice]

what was said about the unicorn tho

I forgor

[slender haven]

It's only mentioned in Cinnabar Spindle I think

[golden sluice]

yeah

considering it's her first creation it shoulld be a disappointment

[slender haven]

The only thing it says is that it failed in its quest and Albedo must succeed

[golden sluice]

ah alright

we'll see

[slender haven]

I wonder if Elynas will ever be playable lol
Since Rhine wants Albedo to create a new destiny for his entire family

[golden sluice]

she said the entire family?

I think Elynas will eventually become playable

[slender haven]

"Me and your brothers"

[golden sluice]

fair enough

I wonder if she's including bakunawa in that

[slender haven]

Maybe she disowned it after it bit her arm off lol

[golden sluice]

ong they should all disown her tbh

[slender haven]

She deserved it after mocking Surtalogi for being an amputee lol

[golden sluice]

she was ragebaiting everyone there tbh

but honestly out of everyone in the sinners

she deserves the least sympathy and love

[slender haven]

And now she's trapped licking Phanes' boots lol

[slender haven]

Yeah but she's a woman so she's also most likely to be playable lol

[golden sluice]

look at her and the shades' designs bro

the moment that trailer dropped I became convinced all of them are playable

[slender haven]

Pretty much yeah

Compared to Pierro and his 1,000 death flags....

[golden sluice]

I don't get it

despite everything

[slender haven]

Of course the Chinese company would simp more for the oppresive government over the rebels lol

[golden sluice]

he's far more redeemable than anyone else

out of the shades and the sinners

[slender haven]

Yeah but here's the thing

1. Male

2. Old

3. Beard

All are sure fire ways to get you on Da Wei's hitlist

All combined? Dead man walking

[golden sluice]

ong we're all rolling tho

[gray sentinel]

on this subject actually, do we think Sandrone's going to be operational in 7.0 or is she getting deactivated?

[golden sluice]

wdym

u mean playable?

she's confirmed to be a 6.7 release

[gray sentinel]

I heard rumors she was gonna end up like Capitano or Signora, but happy to hear otherwise

[golden sluice]

naw she's fine

she's playable

[slender haven]

Indeed

[slender haven]

She might die but she's a robot so her mind is uploaded to The Cloud

So she'll be fine

[golden sluice]

don't get people who don't find designs like Dottore, Capitano and Pierro cool

like

how can u not find them cool bruh they look so sick 😭

[slender haven]

Dottore's design could use a bit of an update but his boss design is admittedly really cool

[slender haven]

Too much waifuslop rots their brain

[golden sluice]

I think his design is really fucking cool it's just he's suffering from the fact his model is 3 years old

[slender haven]

If they looked at a Soulsborne game their heads would explode

[golden sluice]

like deadass it's my favorite ingame design

don't change it just upgrade it

[golden sluice]

ifkr

[slender haven]

That's what I meant by "update"

[golden sluice]

bet they never played such games

[slender haven]

Baizhu and Skirk got them

[golden sluice]

oh I thought u meant

like change some of it

cz

I'd fight tooth and nail to keep that design

[slender haven]

Nah lol

[slender haven]

Genshin literally uses Soulsborne sound effects too lol

Arlecchino was based off Lady Maria too

[golden sluice]

yeah

I saw the concept arts

like

oof I hate the target audience of this game bro

🥀

[slender haven]

I wonder if Cap was based on anyone

[golden sluice]

sadly his concept arts didn't get leaked

[slender haven]

The only gacha game that treats itself seriously is like, Limbus I think lol

[golden sluice]

YEAH

I don't play it but

I've seen some peak stuff about it

[slender haven]

I don't either but it looks cool
I just wish a game with that style had Genshin's gameplay you know?

[golden sluice]

and characters

not all

specifically some of them

Capitano, Dottore, Pierro and Rerir to start with

[slender haven]

Nightreign is the closest thing to a Soulslike Gacha atp 🥀

[slender haven]

Yeah, and like, Foul Legacy Childe too

[golden sluice]

wanted to try it but lazy tbh and im fine with just one gacha

[golden sluice]

actually I wanna see all the harbingers in such a game so they'd get justice

[slender haven]

It isn't really a Gacha lol

It just has a lot of playable characters

Got a DLC recently too

[slender haven]

We can dream
But all the top tier Gacha games are made by the same few companies it feels like

[golden sluice]

huh thought it was a gacha

ill try it

one day

eventually...

[golden sluice]

hoyo and kuro 🥀

what else

[slender haven]

Nah the only random stuff are the relics and stuff

[golden sluice]

how do u get the playable characters then

[slender haven]

Idk there's this one detective Gacha game that looks pretty cool

[slender haven]

You have them all at the start

[golden sluice]

isn't that the new hoyo game

[slender haven]

Except one

[slender haven]

No

I don't believe so

[golden sluice]

oh nvm I know which one

you're talking about

it's not released yet right

[slender haven]

Yeah it's upcoming

Gameplay looks fun but idk if it's for me

I'm fine with one gacha too as well

[golden sluice]

yeah more than enough

[slender haven]

I was playing WuWa a while back but I quit when it started becoming waifu slop

[golden sluice]

I played it for like

2 patches

after its release

played hsr a while too

zzz downloaded it on release day and deleted it the same day

uhhhhhh what else

[slender haven]

Pretty much same here lol

[golden sluice]

I remember trying tower of fantasy when it dropped

[golden sluice]

genshin is the only game I've played consistently

I had pauses tho

like

[slender haven]

Yeah same
I took a break at like 5.5 though

[golden sluice]

I deadass played like for a week after patch release in every patch release in Natlan

[golden sluice]

I come back for a week and drop it again every patch

in Natlan

[slender haven]

Probably not missing much
It's Natlan after all

[golden sluice]

yeahhhhhhh

disappointing af

even Skirk was disappointing for me

and I was HYPED HYPED FOR HER

[slender haven]

Skirk was ok I guess

[golden sluice]

I didn't like her story quest

felt very generic

[slender haven]

But getting a cryo sword DPS the same chapter Capitano "died" leaves a bitter taste in the mouth

[golden sluice]

only interesting part was her relationship with Surtalogi and Surtalogi himself

[slender haven]

It felt too disconnected

Going from local Teyvat stuff immediately into space wars and intergalatic genocide

Like the space lore is cool in increments but it felt too abrupt for Skirk

[golden sluice]

honestly I never expected him to become playable in Natlan

I just didn't expect that to happen to him either

he barely had any impact and just felt like one more way to market Mavuika

like he immediately gave up on his plan

[golden sluice]

I understand I was surprised too

but what disappointed me is her personality

the only interesting part about her was her relationship with Surtalogi for me

[slender haven]

She could have just been fem Tartaglia and I would have been fine

[golden sluice]

actually

that would've been better

[slender haven]

Yeah Genshin had a hard on for Mavuika

Since Da Wei is a Himeko simp

I just wish Mavuika could have fucking died like her

[golden sluice]

same 😭 ✌️

worst character oat

I wish for all archons but out of principle i didnt get her

[slender haven]

I wish Capitano comes back in his prime and fucking obliterates her
But I know it won't happen

Fuck

[golden sluice]

she sucks on all fronts, even in terms of meta she ruined it for me

[slender haven]

I have her but I'm keeping her at level 1 out of spite

I'm only building her when Capitano comes back

Sometimes I throw her off the big tower in front of Cap's throne

[slender haven]

Varka is lowkey just better Mavuika in terms of writing
Big tough warrior type whose a little arrogant but still dependable
But the difference is Varka gets made fun of and is actually wrong at times

[golden sluice]

in his sq they're getting a rematch and they get a draw

to not make the waifu fans mad

[slender haven]

She she only won the first time by threatening the souls of his dead friends lol

And the crazy thing is that Cap was holding back
He could have regrown his ice sword after breaking it but didn't

Idk why nobody notices that

But yeah if they rematch absolute best case scenario Cap will win but they'll say it was a super tough fight and imply Mavuika was holding back or some shit 😭

It would be better if they just had Mavuika give it to him out of gratitude or something

[golden sluice]

I suppose, that's the kind of writing they only give to male characters

and it's more compelling in the long run

[golden sluice]

he literally was planning to

continue fighting

[slender haven]

And Furina
The GOAT

[golden sluice]

if Ororon didn't intervene

[slender haven]

Mhm
Ororon just sensed the souls in his heart about to explode and thought it was Cap
Even though he's immortal

[golden sluice]

I dislike furina ngl bcz of how glazed she is both ingame and irl

[golden sluice]

yeah

[slender haven]

She isn't glazed too hard in game except for the Archons
I mean canonically Poisson still doesn't like her

[golden sluice]

her nation's people keep glazing her a lot and the playable characters

it gets excessive it pmo

[slender haven]

And the Traveler's Log states Mavuika had to use her full power at the end to match him

[golden sluice]

strongest archon vs the average khaenriah soldier

[slender haven]

I mean she's kind of supposed to be super arrogant and annoying at the start lol
Makes the reveal more impactful

[golden sluice]

nah im not talking about the start

after the end

btw

who made the boat in Fontaine again

[slender haven]

I don't recall her getting glazed too much afterwards

Paimon even made fun of her I think

[slender haven]

Wrio

[golden sluice]

she got glazed a lot

A LOT

after 4.2

I know because it pissed me off sm

[slender haven]

By the fans or in game

[golden sluice]

both

[golden sluice]

oh

that's also one thing I don't get

[slender haven]

I know the fans did
But the game I kind of disagree

[golden sluice]

she's an archon so she msut have access to a lot of resources right

why didn't she prepare for it

like

why didn't she make a boat using the resources herself

[slender haven]

I mean we get the flashback of her asking the Institute every day if they had new info to work with

[slender haven]

I think only Wrio knew about the Primordial Sea at the bottom of the Fortress

[golden sluice]

yeah I remember that

[golden sluice]

but she knew of the flood

[gray sentinel]

I found Furina sympathetic in the AQ finale where it becomes obvious how much of her entire deal beforehand was entirely fronting

[golden sluice]

so honestly I don't see why she didn't prepare

[slender haven]

Denial ig

[golden sluice]

anything

[gray sentinel]

bc she was 24/7 rping as an influencer

[golden sluice]

ehhh if they showed it somehow sure but ehhhhhhhh

[slender haven]

She just trusted in Focalors' plan a lot ig

[golden sluice]

hm

good point actually

you changed my opinion about her a bit

[golden sluice]

entirely fronting?

[slender haven]

Sick

[gray sentinel]

fronting = performing, faking, pretending to be cool and confident

[golden sluice]

oh

[gray sentinel]

Furi has spent 500 years trying to convince everyone that she knows what she's doing at all times and should be revered as a god. but she knows she doesn't have the Hydro Archon's powers and the act she's performing is fake. it was fake the whole time. She got born into an extremely bad situation and she handled it as well as anybody could, I think

[golden sluice]

eh maybe, I think some people would've handled it better tho

[somber dagger]

https://x.com/aboutnodkrai/status/1999843369640464712?s=46

About NodKrai🌙 (@AboutNodKrai)

6.2 HoYo deleted Dottore's Akasha Terminal in cutscene. Left in game, right is official post.

Via Seele
#Nodkrai #Genshinlmpact

X · Dec 13, 2025, 2:06 PM

i was so confused on why he even had it the cutscene

kinda sad cuz i thought it was intentional and i wanted them to address the elephant in the rlom

[analog merlin]

The official video on YouTube removed his Akasha. I think they are making adjustments with his boss model (the one used for the YouTube cutscene) so that it will be reflected in gameplay. Maybe I put off the event for long enough that I'm ready to play.

[tawdry blade]

I think they just reused his sumeru archon quest model

And forgot

[tawdry blade]

Istaroth appearing

Or speaking

[slender haven]

At least 4 Carlottas tall

[distant citrus]

Kinda surprised we don't have map walkthrough leaks so far

Or even qol leaks

[tawdry blade]

Probably because the map change a lot after doing some world quest

And Im pretty sure the map default setting for pirated beta is the final stage?

Or first

I assume first cuz 4.2 map didn't sink in gameplay leak

[tawdry blade]

There are abyssal creatures outside and these mfs want to destroy Celestia rule

Live up to their title as a Fool

[spice creek]

[tawdry blade]

I assume they did not know about it yet or maybe Hexenzirkel work over time

Also,they still have to follow Teyvat rule so yeah not like they can enter and cause destruction immediately

They are definitely more dangerous outside tho

[distant citrus]

Skirk came to teyvat
Surtolgi is out there
Octavia travel to other worlds...
I wonder if abyss is just teyvat locked atp Or how it even affect other worlds

How big is the world of teyvat...in relation to other worlds
Does abyss exist in those worlds too then?
Answers that we probably won't get until the end of teyvat chapter

@ashen ocean you read "wheels of fortune" arcanum card lore?

It's confusing lore

"Though there is no meaning in this world within an eggshell,
The "fortune" we speak of is not some false metaphor,
In 14 billion "years" of darkness,
It is the sum of all that is destined to happen and all that never will.

Partings, encounters, and partings once more,
Birth, destruction, and birth yet again,
In the darkness of 93 billion "years" of light,
All existence holds meaning unknown to any,
Without which this universe would seem too solitary.

This is the "fortune" that divination cards speak of,
Or that which cannot be spoken.

The "Wheel of Fortune" turns ever onwards,
But there are things which are never forgotten,
Things that can never be destroyed.
At least, I am willing to believe so.
Just as you believe in reunion with her."

@ashen ocean can you make sense of it?

And this "reunion with her"
The same as that dain dialogue from teyvat teaser
Interesting stuff...

"Fortune" Is definitely fate
"years" might be the cycles...

[golden sluice]

the weapons lore got added

waiting for tl

oh translation is released?

send

[distant citrus]

Yeah but that skirk planet could just be part of the same world teyvat exists not different world

I'm talking about other worlds

[golden sluice]

[distant citrus]

Depends I guess... It can be but if genshin is part of imaginary tree then no

Yeah but it's hard to do so when irminsul behaves exactly like imaginary tree in honkai

Eh nvm we'll get to it when we leave teyvat anyway

For now all we know is whatever side of universe teyvat exist no longer have any other life sign

It's the last one of it's star system

[golden sluice]

can u guys read the weapons' lore and tell me what's it talking about

[distant citrus]

Where is it? Reddit?

[golden sluice]

I have reading comprehension issues

yea

wait

[golden sluice]

artifact lore got leaked too

no tl yet tho

[distant citrus]

Mtl makes it more confusing

Hmm sounds like the forth unborn moon traverses past and her consciousness sees the memories of the 3 moon sisters?

Yeah I'll wait for proper tl

[golden sluice]

is it talking about Columbina?

what she did

[distant citrus]

Yes it does talk about her

[golden sluice]

in the other side of the gate

[distant citrus]

There's also the voyager and something they did with the moon?

[golden sluice]

this lowkey tells us how she escaped the moon's reflection then

[golden sluice]

we need proper tl

[distant citrus]

Ok maybe that wasn't Voyager but travler

[tawdry blade]

Time travel stuff gonna be confusing but let see how they cook

[distant citrus]

Moon sisters weaving the thread of fate was already confirmed but it's here as well

[tawdry blade]

I hope theoyr of bina being lunopar is not true

Literally amphoreus

[distant citrus]

Time travel isn't hard to explain once you realize that time is just another dimension in hoyoverse
And there are entities or gods who can traverse that

Think interstellar

That's what's happening kinda

Waiting for Homdg

[tawdry blade]

Then turn out it is part of Celestia plan

[distant citrus]

Few more days i guess

[golden sluice]

I mean surely we'll get a proper translation before that

[distant citrus]

There's also something interesting here
Apparently something was ferrying the souls of the dead to the dark side of the moon except humans

Now what does this mean...

[golden sluice]

it's charging

[golden sluice]

is that from the translation I sent earlier?

[distant citrus]

Yes

[golden sluice]

u speak chinese?

[distant citrus]

I'm pretty sure at this point abyss is just red herring
Something else exist outside the false sky

[golden sluice]

oh alright

[distant citrus]

Apparently all this happened before PO came?

Yeah the lore is getting confusing now

Gotta wait for proper tl it's not making sense otherwise lol

[golden sluice]

hexerei artifact has Decarabian lore

let me see

[distant citrus]

Did the moon arti got translated?

[tawdry blade]

[golden sluice]

nah

well

they did get translated

but similar translation to the ones I sent earlier

they're chopped and confusing

[golden sluice]

@ashen ocean

[distant citrus]

Aubade of morningstar and the moon
If I don't get voyager lore here....

[golden sluice]

I didn't understand the part about souls getting ferried to the dark side of the moon

what significance does it have

[distant citrus]

I don't know either
It looks like PO was forbidding it

[golden sluice]

forbidding ferrying human souls to the dark side of the moon?

what Tholindis got mentioned?

oops

arabic keyboard

oh alright

[distant citrus]

Fate was weaved by the moon sisters
And the souls of the dead would go to dark side of moon
Except PO forbids this for humans
Something to do with samsara and the cycle?
Humanity need to suffer continuous cycles to rebirh as something else?

Probably my guess

[golden sluice]

like

every human needs to be reborn

or is it metaphorical

[distant citrus]

Human ascending to celestia as a concept does exist but I'm not sure if it's relevant here maybe it is

Ex vanessa

[gray raven]

wrong

[golden sluice]

I also agree with you that the abyss is a red herring

judging from Skirk's homeland it does seem like you can coexist with it, all this preparation PO is doing feels like it's to prepare for something stronger and bigger

the reincarnation and ascension thing is very similar to Kevin's plan to prepare humans against Honkai

[tawdry blade]

Coexist with the abyss?

[distant citrus]

In the "princess mina of fallen nation" It's mentioned that celestia created a spell? That would absorb all the planet energy and then use it for something...

In durin weapon lore we get to know that irminsul is doing exactly that absorbing the primordial waters of the planet to create light and heat and then wards off the abyss

[golden sluice]

did I misunderstand what Skirk said about her planet?

but they're able to

[tawdry blade]

Yes but abyss is unpredictable

[golden sluice]

I think that's proof enough abyss is not the bigger threat outside

[distant citrus]

Failure to do so makes the abyss takes over the whole planet and then the next dawn the cycle repeats

[golden sluice]

does this mean teyvat is stuck in a cycle just to ward off the abyss?

[distant citrus]

I think abyss already took over teyvat
Irminsul is the one that's constantly re creating cycle and civilization
All in the hope that maybe humanity in one of those cycle will transcend or something

"Better to find liberation in sacrifice for a great endeavor than to remain lost in endless cycles of samsara."

• Mad Monk

This is even more confusing

[golden sluice]

yo find us a chinese person who can read ts

[distant citrus]

Night of sky artifact

[golden sluice]

what does this mean

he arrived by stepping on the moons?

tf

so like he arrived with her help?

no

[distant citrus]

Gotta wait for homdg update or official tl
Next week I guess then
Right now it's just confusing and probably wrong tl too

[golden sluice]

I don't get it

yeah

[golden sluice]

hxg diluc should get off his bum ass sus leaks he uploads every week and starts doing proper tl bro

[distant citrus]

By v4 we should get en translation I think

[golden sluice]

he only gave proper tl to Columbina's weapon

[distant citrus]

Or is it v5...

[golden sluice]

idk

the morningstar is Phanes?

[distant citrus]

By the time homdg comes back we should get something

[distant citrus]

First angel

[golden sluice]

ppl in reddit are falling for these translations and saw someone say it

🥀

[golden sluice]

is he chinese

[distant citrus]

I don't know
But datamine info will be uploaded on the site once they get back

[golden sluice]

@distant citrus the first one is confusing me

does it mean koitar helped phanes?

is the nameless boy referring to Venti or the boy Venti fought with?

then what's Mond doing there

oo there's official translation of some pieces

wit

wait

yeah

can I send telegram

links here

alright wait

https://t.me/jelenas_vault/360

there

[distant citrus]

Angels were crowned by the PO sevenfold radiance
Meaning they were controlled in a way
Voyager broke then from this "shackle"
Angels then under the guidance of first angel rebelled against the celestia
First angel is also called dawnstar or morningstar clearly taking inspiration from lucifer

[golden sluice]

official EN

for feather and goblet

[distant citrus]

Can you guys send it here I don't use telegram

[golden sluice]

the crowns were basically shackles?

ok wait

[distant citrus]

Yes

[golden sluice]

That was a barren age of old, a time when the pale dawn had yet to pierce the cold night.
Warriors clad in iron had never beheld the open sky. Sharp winds held aloof the frozen heavens above.
Warriors were meant to obey their charge. To smother, in their very cradles, those rebels skulking in darkened alleys, those who dared shake the towering spire.
Yet at the songs that flowed from the strings of that young bard's lyre, the warrior laid down sword and blade.

Not by tongues of treason beguiled, nor by promises of illusion swayed,
the warrior yielded only to the caged bird's yearning for the sky, a hunger writ in the blood of every living creature.
Be they paupers, bowed by bitter winds and clinging to the side of the boy,
or maidens, wandering through pallid plains, calling upon a thousand winds and blossoms;
Be they small sprites of the wind, hearts stirred by the boy's music,
or soldiers no less hungered than those they were bid to subdue;
Be they old poets bereft of their eyes, or craftsmen made wanderers, shorn of their hands,
or the countless sick and ailing souls, their names lost to the wild winds' howl;
All alike, steeped in that song — gentle as the morning breeze, warm as dawn light seeping into cold nights —
would lift their eyes as one and gaze upon the sky, still far above.

Even she, the God King's most favored confidant, that taciturn, iron-cold huntress, grim of tongue yet true of heart...
Surely, 'twas but by duress of her erstwhile master that her fair hands were stained with innocent blood.
For how else might a clutch of soft-spoken words have turned her away from the tyrant, and set her feet upon the path of those who stood against him?
Though ineloquent by nature, she too must have longed, like her companions, for a gentler dawn to come...

And so the silent warrior cast aside both duty and name, weaving her snare from within the shadows,
Gathering, for the boy who sang of morning, the winds scattered across the long night, until at last they rose to blow against the towering wall of wind.

"Let the nameless flowers kiss away your tears, and grieve not for the parting that tomorrow brings."
"Until the breath of dawn fades my name, and reveals for you the light that is true."

feather

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
That was a barren age of old, a past when gentle spring winds had yet to melt ice and snow.
Cups of azure had never held sweet wine; naught but bitter songs flowed from mortal lips.

The taciturn archer loosed the last arrow at the tyrant, lifeblood piercing the unyielding wind-wall.
The chorus of defiance swelled, and the breeze surged into a tempestuous tide, striking deep into the heart of the lone king.
Thus should have ended the rebellion of mortals against gods, for the Lord of the Storm was cast down from his high tower.
Yet, before the heroes breaking free from their bonds could mourn their fallen comrades,
a wild storm gathered, fraught with malice to engulf all who were granted a new life.

That was the final lament of the tyrant — forsaken by all, his delusions unmade — amidst the wreckage of his throne.
Even the frailest of gods, clinging to resentments as their twilight nears, can topple the mightiest strongholds wrought by mortal hands.
Let alone the God King himself, whose might could sever the frozen sky, cleave mountains asunder with winds of wrath, and fell drakes with a single arrow.
Those who had poured every ounce of their strength into the strife of godslaying could now no longer stay the unforeseen woe.
The hope newly kindled upon the ruins seemed destined to be devoured by the wrathful storm, ushering in utter desolation.

At the very instant when the roar of annihilation was about to strike, what came into view of the sprite, the knight, and all beneath the tower...
...was the boy, frail of form and unskilled in war. He strode into the raging wind while his fingers danced upon the strings of his lyre.

Never has any song revealed the hidden secret of that hour, nor has any poem probed its very truth.
The wind, which had teeth to rend the very bones of the earth, fell abruptly silent. It was a miracle that later devotees would call divine.
None but the exalted God of Songs knows the words inscribed before the dawn...

goblet

these are the only official EN translations

[tawdry blade]

So nothing new then

[golden sluice]

he translated it using google translate gng

[tawdry blade]

I can ask my friend but dont want to bother him playing limbus

[distant citrus]

Looks like expanded version of amos bow lore

[golden sluice]

that was not a question honestly

also

isn't it just his color scheme or am I misremembering

the Hex quest legit confirmed that every Mond character buff is belonging to the Hex faction

they said they're helping all of Mond

yeah

btw

isn't Columbina's weapon just telling us what we're gonna see in 6.3?

about how she's stuck in a certain and state and the time loop stuff

huh

whoever came up

with the theory

should rejoice

this is basically a confirmation

stuck in that state since the war of the second funerary year?

[distant citrus]

Damn if these tl are somewhat correct then the souls of human did cross over to lunar halls...
It was there they started harboring rebellious thought towards the celestia
So moon were treacherous indeed

[golden sluice]

what was it again

[distant citrus]

Not souls but human themselves

[golden sluice]

I forgor the nme

oh ok

[distant citrus]

It says mortals so I don't think so

[tawdry blade]

No,but he know about it

[golden sluice]

lunar halls were the moons' homes?

[distant citrus]

It says they allowed humans into the lunar palace too

[distant citrus]

Yes

[golden sluice]

hmm they had rebellious thought cz they saw how HP didn't let humans die properly,

?

[distant citrus]

Perfume sea...
It's primordial sea I guess

So Nibelung was born out of it

[golden sluice]

[golden sluice]

I thought Nibelung was born along with Teyvat

[distant citrus]

@ashen ocean so Nibelung went towards the land of mist
Yeah I think pohjola is indeed abyss

[tawdry blade]

Rebel against their own creator,truly the arrogant of mankind

[distant citrus]

Also millennium and millennium passed since nibelung went outside and then the winged Lord arrived treading upon the morning star

No specific number just millennium could be 2 could be more

[tawdry blade]

I think it mean a very long time

[distant citrus]

I don't understand what it mean by treading upon her...
Like it's says he arrived on the planet treading upon morning star

[distant citrus]

Yeah a way of saying that large amount of time passed

Yeah we already knew that

[tawdry blade]

Fancy word,typical of hoyo

[distant citrus]

The crown represent the submission

Angels were subdued

[tawdry blade]

War of Vengeance was fine but they pulled up with the Funery Year

Free labor,just like Hexenzirkel

[distant citrus]

"The Lord of the world within the eggshells used false veil to seperate the true demonic heaven "

[tawdry blade]

Well,we have age of God when there are so much of them they decided to make a war to reduce the number,I think he already got what he wanted

Maybe

Could be both abyssal and light stuff

[distant citrus]

Oh damn..

Angels enlightened the early humans with wisdom and prosperity
This gave rise to intellect and that led to rise in doubt and so the humans began questioning the angels
This led to angels getting angry and they stopped talking with the humans

Human then look towards the 3 moons and made a covenant pact with them

By the time mornigstar came back humanity already had brought back the sigils of wheel from the moons

We now have the history of moon wheel

Yeah it's moon wheel

[tawdry blade]

Waiting for sunwheel

[distant citrus]

Remember the skirk arti lore where human had angered the angels?

Apparently they then turn to the moons amd that's how moon wheel came into existence

[tawdry blade]

Angered a powerful entity and then get silent treatment this sound familiar..

Dragonspine civilization ?

Without the wheel stuff

I think

[distant citrus]

Yeah unified civilization I think
But mostly it looks like golden city

After

We knew moonwheel came from moon but not the timeline but now we have it

[tawdry blade]

I assume the moonsign is also similar

The sigil

[distant citrus]

No

When the angels stopped talking and humans still had question they turn towards the moon goddess and made covenant pact with them
And in turn they for their blessing in the form of moon wheel

No

It's something moon goddess did

Probably

But we don't know that either

No I meant in response to your question

Not that vision weren't made by celestia

You asked whether PO copied from moon goddess that's what I was referring to as we don't know if they did copy or created it on their own
Probably they did though

I need official translation now...

@ashen ocean "conquest of daylight and the attendant of night"
PO is denoted by daylight and moon goddess are denoted as attendant of night... Night meaning nibelung then

The day king and night king from durin weapon...

Yeah PO might not be the abyss after all
He still is false God or demonic but abyss is not it

He's represented as ruler of seven fold radiance aka elements
I think they're entirely different from light or abyss in that sense
As in they're the 3rd party here
First being light second being abyss

Wait morning star and dawn star are different?

@golden sluice morning star is PO only
I mixed that up with dawn star who's the first angel

[golden sluice]

that's what I was confused about earlier 🥀 🥀

thanks

I need the proper tl to get released already this isn't doing it

[distant citrus]

Yeah need proper tl

[golden sluice]

wait

did the lunnotar kiss the traveler or did the person who said it spreading misinformation?

cz I don't remember seeing such a thing

[distant citrus]

They touched their head or something iirc

To transfer the moon powers or something I don't remember though...

[golden sluice]

how did Columbina not realize the blessing lunnotar gave is her own blessing

[distant citrus]

She doesn't have the memories before her birth would be my guess

[golden sluice]

I mean

she should be able to realize

the powers behind the blessing

are similar to hers

[cedar juniper]

I see new potential venti lore i come

[distant citrus]

Probably didn't cause it's still lunar energy it's all the same I guess

[cedar juniper]

Mondstadt my goat

[golden sluice]

yikes

[golden sluice]

fairs

I wonder

since she spent like

6000 years in that form

[cedar juniper]

Who

[golden sluice]

it's

a big spoiler ig?

it's ||Columbina||

[cedar juniper]

Oh

Ok i WONT be clicking that 😭

[golden sluice]

tho im not sure about the 6000 years thing, I'm assuming the case since she was like that since the war of the funerary year

but there's probably time sheningans around it

could be way less

[golden sluice]

yeah don't

it's a theory that was confirmed by today's lore leaks

in the weapons and artifacts

[cedar juniper]

Ill see yall in 6.3 ✌️

I was just curious about venti stuff

[golden sluice]

oh ask @distant citrus

I don't understand genshin's flowery language I always rely on him or @ashen ocean to explain shit to me

[distant citrus]

I didn't read venti bow lore just the artifacts which is expanded version for amos bow lore
Probably should wait for official tl

[cedar juniper]

Alright cool 🙏

[distant citrus]

I think the new lore seperates them
It talks about the age when the morning star and the moons ruled together
That's PO

[long crest]

@ashen ocean Did you see the catwithabluehat bina theory video?

|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ysbjwkPJ8 ||

I'm like 99% certain this is exactly the story.

And it details a TON of shit.

And it's honestly amazing storytelling by Hoyo

holy

If you haven't watched it, perhaps do so before casting judgement.

[golden sluice]

@distant citrus @ashen ocean what's the significance of demiurge?

monad?

and

who's demiurge in genshin?

I keep saying people talk about Demiurge in genshin but idk who they're referring to

huh

the true creator?

I assume the humans

yeah

that's what I thought

the PO brought the ark?

so like he's not exactly demiurge since he wants to protect?

do u read

novels

like really long ones

bcz there's a popular chinese novel I've read that has a lot of similarities to genshin's story

then again they both take inspiration from the same sources

[distant citrus]

This is something where it needs further expansion on lore
Because humans have been told to descent from irminsul
And they were also brought by PO
So there's something in between here...

Maybe he brought the blueprint for humans and then used irminsul to create them

Oh and in new lore it's said PO had too seen the world's destroyed by abyss already before coming to teyvat
And he chose "order" to establish the new rule in teyvat to oppose the inevitable coming of abyss
Kinda like how raiden chose eternity

[golden sluice]

did u read LOTM

lord of the mysteries

seriously? it's the most popular chinese novel for years now

read it when you have the chance I really recommend it

how did the old wild hunt exist

🥀

[distant citrus]

Old one was pure abyss
New one is also abyss but juiced up by Rerir corpse

[golden sluice]

not me reading it in class and in the exams period last year instead of revising

ah alright

when else would I read LNs smh

[distant citrus]

It also makes sense when you realize the wild hunt is just revived corpse of hyperboreans by the abyss

[golden sluice]

remind me what happened to Vanesa in the end of the webtoon

[distant citrus]

She ascended to celestia
Became a bird

Ok the bird part was probably symbolism don't take it seriously

[golden sluice]

for me I spend whole year fucking around and lock in in the last month

[golden sluice]

a bird in a cage

anyways what is the chance ascending to celestia is the equivalent of HP finding people strong enough to fight against the eventual invasion of the abyss?

[distant citrus]

Yeah that was obvious
We just needed clarification that another abyss breakout happened before cataclysm
And we got that with flins confirming it

Besides how else would they seperate mad monk world quest with main quest

She just mention people saw a woman at the center of the outbreak or something no?
Probably act 2 iirc

[golden sluice]

that woman must be Tholindis

[distant citrus]

"But the oldest legends say that all people saw was the ghostly shadow of a woman in the mist. It wasn't until later that it became a full-blown calamity, Abyssal monsters and all. "

It's from act 1

And that's the only line about it

[golden sluice]

oh nvm this implies the female figure was seen before the cataclysm

"oldest legends" implies old wild hunt

[distant citrus]

I don't think there is difference here
The difference is for is who knows about the lore
But in game characters probably don't differentiate it unless they're long lived like flins

So when ineffa talks about it it's probably just the phenomenon itself not the distinction

[golden sluice]

who do u guys think is the female figure

nah must be Tholindis

she definitely got some of her remains mixed with Rerir's

she got shredded the same as way as Rerir

we just don't know why

[distant citrus]

World quest character will not have any effect here so you can rule that out
Besides lovia already died before mad monk could unleash wild hunt

[golden sluice]

the mad monk unleashed the wild hunt?

[distant citrus]

Yes

[golden sluice]

can someone give me a tldr of what the mad monk did

the wild hunt didn't exist in NK for 6000 years tho

did it?

[distant citrus]

And there are multiple outbreak in different time period
Latest one being the one we see

Earliest being mad monk

[golden sluice]

I mean

technically Columbina had the same thing happen to her

as Tholindis and Rerir

when she got in the moon gate

[distant citrus]

No people already called it wild hunt back then with mad monk itself
The lightkeepers were established for that purpose only
And then later multiple outbreak happened

One happened after tsaritsa took over

"Centuries had passed since their ancestors had stood before the Tsaritsa, swearing an oath of eternal fidelity,
And the people living in "paradise" believed that, so long as their lighthouse stayed lit, they could live in freedom,
Neither fearing the chaos wrought by the pitch-black beasts, nor needing to seek refuge in the lands to the north.
Then one night, a chilling sound carried over the horizon's edge — the leader of the Wild Hunt was abroad, galloping across the night sky. "

[golden sluice]

the leader of the wild hunt?

tf

who does that refer to

Rerir galloping across the night sky? 🥀

[distant citrus]

At the end of the path, only the one who held the dark blade still stood.
He knew that deep within the forest lurked the foul force by which the "Wild Hunt" had been summoned forth.

Forest is the same forest right? Lake amrvatnir

@ashen ocean Gunnhildr Clan... This the one of diluc right?

[golden sluice]

Jean's

Jean Gunnhildr

[distant citrus]

Oh jeans
Right
Well read the venti artifacts lore
They're descendants of Arcadia

[golden sluice]

fuck is arcadia

[distant citrus]

Yes