of a textmap leak
#・genshin-spoilers
golden sluice
that had similar details to what he said
I'm not saying it's true but let's just wait till we get a proper textmap leak
tawdry blade
Also
golden sluice
abs told me to check genshin leakflow but there's nothing there
tawdry blade
Reference to dead draw achievement if it is true
"dead draw" means a situation in a card game (like poker) or board game (like chess) where a player's attempt to improve their hand or position is futile, as they cannot possibly win, even if they draw the perfect card
Basically mean that even if Dottore had all the winning card or perfect power,he can't win
tawdry blade
abs told me to check genshin leakflow but there's nothing there
Tbh,if there was,we would have know
gray raven
abs told me to check genshin leakflow but there's nothing there
search up textmap
golden sluice
Basically mean that even if Dottore had all the winning card or perfect power,he...
I mean that makes sense with what the post said
tawdry blade
Pretty sure the post say that he pretend to lose or some shit
tawdry blade
Also what textmap have
tawdry blade
the post said he knew he was losing
"Dottore knows he'll lose because he never planned to win"
gray raven
anything about zibai
gray raven
what is
analog merlin
Somehow Illuga's got a freaking jeepney.
slender haven
<@765806676111917096> <@447714890669490178> <@461096609577435137> <@123390317740...
Bro I think Pierro might just be Aizen
Always "all according to plan"
I love him
slender haven
He's second only to GOAThimtano
golden sluice
but saw it leaked at telegram too
so it's 100%
missinf means he didn't die right?
RIGHT?
slender haven
Also the Abyss is approaching Mondstadt?
Could be why Varka wants the power of Koitar
To become the next Wolf King after Andrius
slender haven
missinf means he didn't die right?
He's "missing"
Playing chess with Rerir rn no doubt
golden sluice
it means he didn't die
MY GOAT DIDNE DIE
DIDNT
❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
also
Sandrone got cooked
she's dead
100% dead
the leak about her dying and reviving later is true
golden sluice
To become the next Wolf King after Andrius
I did see a leak about him becoming more than a human few months ago
slender haven
it means he didn't die
He's going to return with amnesia and be super kind and caring
slender haven
I did see a leak about him becoming more than a human few months ago
I did
golden sluice
He's going to return with amnesia and be super kind and caring
don't manifest it
slender haven
But it seemed fake so I didn't put to much stock in it
But it could be right in some way
golden sluice
BRO STOP
slender haven
I'm manifesting it
slender haven
My uncle is John Hoyoverse too
golden sluice
manifesting Capitano never returns
slender haven
manifesting Capitano never returns
Your powers are weak compared to mine
golden sluice
I will nuke you if it happens
slender haven
Nuh uh
golden sluice
hm
what are the chances
Dottore's sheningans
got noticed by HP?
and the shades
so he went into hiding
?
golden sluice
HP then
slender haven
It was confirmed though
golden sluice
no no
golden sluice
I'm talking about Dottore hiding
I know they're sleeping
I'm banking on them waking up before NK ends
after all the sheningans happening
in there
slender haven
I'm banking on them waking up before NK ends
Nah
They saving that for Sneznahya
Or maybe Khaenri'ah
golden sluice
perhaps
well
Dottore not dying is good enough for me
another day another time thanking god for not making me like Signora mains
slender haven
another day another time thanking god for not making me like Signora mains
Yeah fuck those guys lol
golden sluice
Amen 🙏
slender haven
what why
They're really annoying
Also they like.....really hate Capitano for some reason
Like a weird amount
slender haven
why do they hate him
You ask me
I think it's because they think Capitano kind of stole her thunder as the ""dead" harbinger who people wnat to be alive again"
slender haven
I don't understand it either
golden sluice
oh well
idc about fans honestly
as long as they're a Fatui
I love the character and I'm wishing for them
slender haven
I love the character and I'm wishing for them
Fair
golden sluice
Fair
I'll manifest a playable Capitano with his mask if you manifest a Dottore with his memories
slender haven
I'll manifest a playable Capitano with his mask if you manifest a Dottore with h...
Ok
tawdry blade
<@765806676111917096> <@447714890669490178> <@461096609577435137> <@123390317740...
Dottore missing
Rerir moment, will come back later alongside Rerir
Captured or Trapped, similar to the moon goddess, and he is considered a false moon goddess
Nothing much to say about the rest because we have no clue what is the designated location
golden sluice
Dottore missing
> Rerir moment, will come back later alongside Rerir
> Captured...
good enough for me
he's still alive
🙏
tho
THEY REALLY ADDRESSED THE 10TH HARBINGER
slender haven
THEY REALLY ADDRESSED THE 10TH HARBINGER
Crazy
golden sluice
it is
slender haven
Traveler becoming tenth feels more likely now
golden sluice
I thought they were going to act like it's not an odd thing
slender haven
Would also be funny
golden sluice
probable
tawdry blade
THEY REALLY ADDRESSED THE 10TH HARBINGER
Hint at Travelrr being 10th but I still doubt it a little
golden sluice
but I hope not
golden sluice
Hint at Travelrr being 10th but I still doubt it a little
yeah
I hope not tho honestly
slender haven
but I hope not
Eh if the main character becomes a Fatui that means they get main character plot armor too
So they'll win
It's worth it
golden sluice
good point but I've always loved the fact they had all odds against them
tawdry blade
Traveler is neutral to the Shade more than Fatui so idk
distant citrus
Funny how wanderer fans think he's special for being made from a branch of irminsul
Wait till they find out that's how every human appeared in teyvat 
slender haven
Traveler is neutral to the Shade more than Fatui so idk
They're slowly coming to dislike Celestia
golden sluice
Funny how wanderer fans think he's special for being made from a branch of irmin...
every human came from the Irminsul?
distant citrus
every human came from the Irminsul?
Ye
slender haven
They're slowly coming to dislike Celestia
They're a filthy alien descender too though so they might start licking Phanes' boots too
tawdry blade
Traveler learn about celestia slowly but so far those information only prove that Celestia is doing good thing
distant citrus
every human came from the Irminsul?
"The seeds of life, born not of natural evolution, fell from silver branches into the ruins of the desolate city.
Where featherless creatures, walking upright, enjoyed untold wisdom and the blessings it bestowed. "
golden sluice
Traveler is neutral to the Shade more than Fatui so idk
oh he's definitely neutral to Rhinedottir/Shade of life, probably positive to Istaroth due to her being related Venti and helping Raiden in that one SQ
tawdry blade
Extreme method but good for the entire ecosystem
golden sluice
"The seeds of life, born not of natural evolution, fell from silver branches int...
oh
so Scaramouche is deadass a humam
like he's no different
🥀
slender haven
"The seeds of life, born not of natural evolution, fell from silver branches int...
Maybe Albedo is the same kind of human as this
tawdry blade
oh he's definitely neutral to Rhinedottir/Shade of life, probably positive to Is...
Asmoday too if you ask me... Traveler in the beginning did not hate her just wanted to question her why did she separate them
slender haven
so Scaramouche is deadass a humam
Nah that's like saying an apple is the same as tree bark
golden sluice
Asmoday too if you ask me... Traveler in the beginning did not hate her just wan...
probably
well I still do think he'll square up once he sees her again
would be lame if he doesn't
distant citrus
Well kinda different since raidne copied the art of alchemy from khanerriah and maybe it was a bit different from what PO did
Probably a difference in technique or something and constitution too
slender haven
well I still do think he'll square up once he sees her again
Just to get their ass beat again
golden sluice
Nah that's like saying an apple is the same as tree bark
ok yeah you're right
tawdry blade
would be lame if he doesn't
It is paimon
slender haven
ok yeah you're right
Worst. Descender. Ever
golden sluice
Just to get their ass beat again
manifesting this
slender haven
It is paimon
No
golden sluice
It is paimon
no way
distant citrus
But nonetheless they all came from using branch of irminsul only
golden sluice
Worst. Descender. Ever
real bro, traveler is deadass giving a bad name to the other 3 descenders
tawdry blade
Aside from that,Paimon being fragment of PO could mean two thing
The emergency food joke make sense
golden sluice
Well kinda different since raidne copied the art of alchemy from khanerriah and ...
could he have been created the same way Albedo was created?
slender haven
real bro, traveler is deadass giving a bad name to the other 3 descenders
We know nothing about Saarelainen and they still scale above The Traveler
golden sluice
I don't think Paimon will ever stop being Paimon or get absorbed
she's the mascot of the game
slender haven
I hope Paimon dies
tawdry blade
I don't think Paimon will ever stop being Paimon or get absorbed
Well yes but it might be similar to the shad
golden sluice
We know nothing about Saarelainen and they still scale above The Traveler
I have so much hate in my heart for the traveler
tawdry blade
PO might be able to absorb them back
distant citrus
could he have been created the same way Albedo was created?
Yes but as I said the constitution maybe different
slender haven
I have so much hate in my heart for the traveler
I do too
Every other Gacha mc is better
golden sluice
PO might be able to absorb them back
and then traveler squares up to separate them or smthn
golden sluice
Every other Gacha mc is better
the tb sucks too ngl
slender haven
the tb sucks too ngl
I don't play HSR anymore
golden sluice
wuwa's mc too
slender haven
So idk much about them
golden sluice
I don't play HSR anymore
me neither
tawdry blade
real bro, traveler is deadass giving a bad name to the other 3 descenders
When
slender haven
wuwa's mc too
Yeah their design is boring
distant citrus
Actually wait Rhine used khemia right? I'm not sure if she used the irminsul branch to make albedo...
slender haven
Actually wait Rhine used khemia right? I'm not sure if she used the irminsul bra...
She could've
Or something similar
Albedo is her magnum opus after all
distant citrus
We know she used chalk to create durin... Was it same with albedo?
distant citrus
I think Rhine alchemy was unique creation
And while raiden did copy the technique for ingredients she had to use branch of irminsul unlike Rhine who used chalk and humus
slender haven
We know she used chalk to create durin... Was it same with albedo?
Not actual chalk that's just a metaphor
Unless Durin was made with humus lol
distant citrus
No durin was made with chalk she tells herself in latest durin hex quest
Humus wa sused for wolfhound
While bakinawa was something different I don't remember what she used
slender haven
No durin was made with chalk she tells herself in latest durin hex quest
I haven't played the latest hex quests yet
slender haven
While bakinawa was something different I don't remember what she used
We don't know yet but probably moon powers
Or moon rocks
distant citrus
No it has a name let me see if I can find it
It's called permeance or something..
This was the post I saw
tawdry blade
slender haven
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/rWSdHD0hxW
So it's made out of lava
And moon rocks
Could be phlogiston was involved
tawdry blade
https://youtu.be/ALDswLilykY?si=T_gwN0Vt2Zehj5Ib
Zhongli with tech
distant citrus
So it's made out of lava
Yeah en had mistranslation (like always )
So no irminsul branch was used by Rhine in her creation
Raiden being a God might've used the branch simply because she wasn't creating a normal human puppet but her own duplicate basically a God so probably normal chalk wouldn't have sufficed for her or something
slender haven
Yeah en had mistranslation (like always <:C_TaoHehe:856840838046547988> )
So no...
Maybe Rhine didn't want to use a let line branch because she wanted to recreate primordial humans on her own
"I'm better than you" type stuff
distant citrus
That too plus being part of irminsul can be problematic if your goal in the future is to go against them
tawdry blade
Now that I think about it,Dottore being imprisoned like the moons sisters were is a high possibility now,they gonna mind break him until he becomes a good guy
slender haven
That too plus being part of irminsul can be problematic if your goal in the futu...
"go against them"
Currently a Shade
plain bison
To become the next Wolf King after Andrius
I wonder how strong this new enemy will be
slender haven
I wonder how strong this new enemy will be
Maybe something to do with a Sinner
Hroptatyr is the current big unknown
tawdry blade
Also the Abyss is approaching Mondstadt?
Inverted Venti Statue
Suspiciously, the statue in Dormant Port was stolen by the abyss order..
Which mean Mondstatd will be missing one statue
Maybe SoT7 work like a mini Celestia Nail
slender haven
Inverted Venti Statue
I thought that was destroyed though
slender haven
Maybe SoT7 work like a mini Celestia Nail
It was originally going to be made into a God
plain bison
Maybe something to do with a Sinner
Hroptatyr is the current big unknown
Imagine it’s Fenrir
slender haven
Imagine it’s Fenrir
I think Rerir is Fenrir
Since his symbol was a wolf
plain bison
I think Rerir is Fenrir
Since his symbol was a wolf
Fair and true, Genshin Rerir is most likely the combination of Rerir and Fenrir
tawdry blade
I thought that was destroyed though
It is still there
plain bison
I just wish Varka would be given something big on screen, all we’ve gotten of him so far are endless glazes from NPCs, Jean, and Flins
tawdry blade
We left it there instead of reporting jt
Also I dont think we would destroy something so divine
slender haven
It is still there
The domain collapsed though iirc
slender haven
I just wish Varka would be given something big on screen, all we’ve gotten of hi...
I do too
But just be patient. It will come to a head when he becomes playable
distant citrus
"go against them"
>Currently a Shade
I mean her creation aren't she might've want them to be "independent " or so
slender haven
Fair and true, Genshin Rerir is most likely the combination of Rerir and Fenrir
Yeah and I think Varka might be the "Skorr" of Norse Mythology
A wolf seeking the moon
gray raven
no spoilers for act 5 and 6 btw
tawdry blade
The domain collapsed though iirc
Does not guaranteed that it was destroyed
gray raven
i had a feeling that dottore wouldn't die
tawdry blade
Also I think it was shaking really hard and that is it
Actually the entire place becomes "abyssal"
Not collapse
slender haven
Does not guaranteed that it was destroyed
It would have fallen down from those chains at least
Also it needed Osial's limbs and the first ruin guard eye
Both of which are unobtainable for it rn
tawdry blade
It would have fallen down from those chains at least
Also it needed Osial's lim...
They have ruin guard eyes
Osial limb can be replaced with other god
Maybe
slender haven
They have ruin guard eyes<:C_TaoHehe:856840838046547988>
The first one
It got used to make the Loom
plain bison
Yeah and I think Varka might be the "Skorr" of Norse Mythology
A wolf seeking t...
He might just be based on Aquilo (The Roman Equivalent of Boreas) based on how they’re depicted
slender haven
They're focusing on making New Khaenri'ah rn
tawdry blade
The first one
It got used to make the Loom
Either way,they could be experiment to make their own statue of the Seven when Khaenriah is fully formed
Now they are just coming back?
slender haven
He might just be based on Aquilo (The Roman Equivalent of Boreas) based on how t...
Perhaps
I hear the Slavic God of the Moon also took the form of a wolf
But he was also a sun god so idk
tawdry blade
Or the abyss got attracted to Mondstatd after 6.3 event?
gray raven
<@765806676111917096> <@447714890669490178> <@461096609577435137> <@123390317740...
i had a theory that the dottore boss fight might be a distraction for what the fatui plan to do in nod krai
slender haven
Either way,they could be experiment to make their own statue of the Seven when K...
Maybe, but it will be a while till that happens
I think they're trying to revive Irmin
gray raven
but dottore's plans actually being in line with the fatui all along sounds dope
plain bison
Definitely something is interesting is brewing in Mondstadt
It’s been teased since Varka sent Frederica and the rest of her team to Dornman Port to establish a “defensive fortress”
And now, there’s a “dark enemy” approaching in Mondstadt based on NPC Dialogue in 6.3
So there’s a good chance we might even get Frederica’s model, unless she’s conveniently out of the picture again due to some reason
slender haven
Definitely something is interesting is brewing in Mondstadt
It’s been teased si...
Hopefully her NPC model is cool 
plain bison
Hopefully her NPC model is cool <:E_pepelol:792804369749377024>
She’ll probably be blonde with white streaks
Unless, she drank the fountain of youth
slender haven
Unless, she drank the fountain of youth
Or the kids got all the blonde hair from their dad
plain bison
Or the kids got all the blonde hair from their dad
True true
She could be silver haired for all we know
slender haven
Also about Varka there's some leaked dialogue repeating that he's on the same level as Capitano
Interesting
plain bison
Also about Varka there's some leaked dialogue repeating that he's on the same le...
Yeah, it’s a knights stationed at Favonius Keep at Wavechasers Plain
slender haven
Yeah, it’s a knights stationed at Favonius Keep at Wavechasers Plain
Indeed
slender haven
But I just wonder how he got so strong as a "normal" human
slender haven
When is he getting an onscreen feat to support that tho
Well he saved a Dragonlord, a Fae, a descender, and a weakened moon goddess from a Wild Hunt horde at least
plain bison
Although make no mistake Natlan Capitano ≠ Prime Capitano
slender haven
Although make no mistake Natlan Capitano ≠ Prime Capitano
Yes
Still god level though
plain bison
Well he saved a Dragonlord, a Fae, a descender, and a weakened moon goddess from...
He threw a claymore and the Wild Hunt immediately dispersed 🔥🔥
slender haven
Natlan Capitano also had a massive weak spot with his heart
Mavuika wouldn't have won if she didn't threaten to kill the souls of his soldiers
plain bison
Yeahhh
slender haven
He threw a claymore and the Wild Hunt immediately dispersed 🔥🔥
I do hope he gets a proper fight scene though
plain bison
I saw some discussions online saying that Varka should be relative to Arlecchino due to their confrontation in 6.1
But others (Knights) say he’s around Capitano’s level
slender haven
I saw some discussions online saying that Varka should be relative to Arlecchin...
Maybe?
Arle did also get a power boost with the Moon Marrow in her
Though that was very very short lived lol
slender haven
dottore's story is not over in the slightest
Yeah even I can admit that
golden sluice
dottore's story is not over in the slightest
which I find weird tbh
why would they give him a weekly boss
when his story isn't over
golden sluice
I mean ig Arle's story not over either
plain bison
Dude is a literal walking spoiler
gray raven
why would they give him a weekly boss
arle
plain bison
Especially with 6.5 and above
slender haven
Scaramouche's too
Actually 90% of all Harbingers with a weekly boss fight has had their story continue after their quests
gray raven
well
golden sluice
except...
slender haven
Oh yeah
golden sluice
Dude is a literal walking spoiler
the devs actually said that right
gray raven
dottore is definitely gonna be in snezhnaya
golden sluice
I sure hope so
golden sluice
the fact he disappeared gives me hope he won't get a lobotomised segment as a playable one
slender haven
the fact he disappeared gives me hope he won't get a lobotomised segment as a pl...
In order to become a true moon goddess he transitions into a cute anime girl and learns the power of friendship
He looks like this now
gray raven
i mean
slender haven
Fair enough
gray raven
wasn't the lord of arcane wisdom just an "experiment." to him
slender haven
wasn't the lord of arcane wisdom just an "experiment." to him
Speaking of which it's funny that both Scara and Dottore are "false gods"
golden sluice
their parallels will never end
plain bison
the devs actually said that right
Yeah, they said showing his character artwork progression was a massive spoiler
golden sluice
Yeah, they said showing his character artwork progression was a massive spoiler
I hope they release it after everything about him gets revealed
slender haven
Yeah, they said showing his character artwork progression was a massive spoiler
His what?
plain bison
Lowkey he might be the most viable character to have a sp
slender haven
Lowkey he might be the most viable character to have a sp
At least a skin
Right Hoyoverse?
It'd be funny if one of his siblings became playable and they were his BIS support
gray raven
guess all the nod krai antagonists will live
tawdry blade
We will see,them living but imprisoned /sealed is pretty much the same as death
gray raven
not really
tawdry blade
It is,you have nothing to do,stuck in one place,until your mind break
It is worse than death if u ask me
gray raven
Escapes implies he just dips
gray raven
it says disappears
tawdry blade
Are we reading the same dialongue
gray raven
show
tawdry blade
Mikhail:Did you hear that? There was something big happening in Nod Krai!
Lyudmila:Yeah. The new moon illuminates the land. Lord Dottore went missing after that battle. And Lord Sandrone…sigh.
gray raven
i think that means he disappeared on his own accord
he's missing cause he went into hiding
tawdry blade
There is no point in that,it is his so called final experiment, if he has final final experiment then that is just ass of an excuse,the dialongue also glaze Pierro and hint at him being more important than Dottore's plan
He would also loses the 2 moon narrows
Irminsul burning is probably scrapped atp
tawdry blade
So you think dottore will have another weekly?
If you think genshin will let evil guy playable then you can hope for another 20 years
tawdry blade
Dottore story end = no playability, oh dont forget the big theory of second clone good guy dottore theory, if anything, his story continues there
@golden sluice Randomly activate Field Debuff "Authority of the Three Moons"
"The Doctor" will punish the Traveler using the authority of the Three Moons.
Eternal Moon: Characters will move in the opposite direction of the keys pressed.
Frost Moon: If characters move quickly, they will be imprisoned and attacked by The Doctor's projections.
Iridescent Moon: If characters face towards The Doctor, they will be imprisoned and attacked by The Doctor's projections.
So that tieba leak kinda got some right?
plain bison
Watch Snezhnaya be about ||the story of the 13 Flamechasers||
tawdry blade
Watch Snezhnaya be about ||the story of the 13 Flamechasers||
Would make sense if all the Harbinger is living
gray raven
dottore being playable is an idk atp but him as a character and his involvement in the story is clearly not over any time soon
slender haven
Would make sense if all the Harbinger is living
There could be some other important Sneznahyan/Fatui characters as well no doubt
We need the Cryo Sovereign and we just found out about the armory academy from descriptions
It could have been another dragon like Scylla
Not a Sovereign
But still strong
Yes
tawdry blade
I mean,he did not use any power showed in the boss fight,so it make sense it is the final stage and the other experiment is when he gain new form 
Beside... having 3 moons power and him not even attempt to attack the Irminsul is quite strange, I mean that is the strongest he can get,how else is he going to burn the Irminsul if he escape with his narrow gone now ,bro gonna get off screen by Nahida like someome in hsr 😭
Not to mention, nahida is working with other to make something ,and one of their creation helped with Rerir fight too
They should progress a lot by now ig
tawdry blade
What dmg?
Damn,everytime it is leading to Traveler choosing to fix the world and become the next ruler or leave teyvat
gray raven
burning irminsul could be apart of the tsaritsa's plan as well
tawdry blade
Is this from that Dottoremain leak
Then Shade might appear
Or talk about it in a black screen
Well.
gray raven
i hope zibai appears in the AQ
plain bison
I wonder if the “Shadow” approaching Mondstadt is Hyroptatyr
slender haven
I wonder if the “Shadow” approaching Mondstadt is Hyroptatyr
Back in the early days of the Beta there were mentions of a "black castle" up North in Mondstadt which could have been abyssal
Maybe they're going to return to that idea
plain bison
Maybe they're going to return to that idea
Perhaps
It'd be nice if there was
Cause Mondstadt needs more of that
Reminds me, that cutscene where Varka was the highlight, here's the Copium to him having Varesa levels of sprint speed
long crest
who are you bro....
slender haven
Reminds me, that cutscene where Varka was the highlight, here's the Copium to hi...
Two anemo guys racing lol
long crest
???
long crest
seelie possession 
echo belfry
i will be making this happen btw
bruh this the spoiler channel
and ik he has pyro res if u mean that
oh
sure
oh ya i saw that i think
oh damn so that leak was true
ofcourse lol i kinda figured thats how he manages to escape anyways
plain bison
https://youtu.be/01V_ZiEjgbA?si=K5DizPITNvYOFywz
Why does this sound so patriotic
gray raven
wdym
echo belfry
i just finished durin sq, not sure if it wasnt leaked or if i just missed it but theres a full cutscene showing andersdotter
prob because its cutscene only
analog merlin
I thought people could see this tomorrow.
tawdry blade
I think the damage is the fake sky in NodKrai
gray raven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkWHeJT3oL8&list=RD-JsmutLszTg&index=2
A lot of the electronic parts sound like placeholders
gray raven
man this track is weird
tawdry blade
Apparently the fatui talking is fake? Honestly if that is the case,I wont be surprised, such leak would be leaked first in Genshin Leak like liben not fatuihq
Apparently Seele the leaker said it ,although I did ask for the proof ,no response yet. I checked seele myself but only some gameplay
Maybe I am going to check textmap again..
That shit was so long my eyes can't handle
Nvm it is true ,dont mind it 
analog merlin
Okay, so where was the idea that Second Descender = Dragon King was confirmed?
golden sluice
Nvm it is true ,dont mind it <:A_WheezeTao:793919527208484924>
it's there?
cz I saw people say it's fake too
analog merlin
So you mean... The Traveler will be the Shade of Reason?
golden sluice
I mean
that's not a very hard thing to guess tbh
people been telling Columbina is playable next nation since Sumeru
the Capitano not being playable in Natlan has been said by multiple leakers since before Natlan released
and the no more male characters wasnt hard to guess seeing how Fontaine went
hmm
tawdry blade
Funny how wrong this guy is
Don't know what "playable image " mean but it could mean Capitano pfp ,which they did gave him,not only that,Natlan have the same amount of male character to Fontaine anyway
golden sluice
@ashen ocean btw it's proven in the files that Sandrone is actually getting a redesign
so the text leaks of the Fatui guys in Mond talking add up
tawdry blade
But if all this leak about irminsul related death is still true,it might just be that real dottore conscious is in the Irminsul and "burning" it is necessary to save Teyvat
tawdry blade
You guys shouldn't celebrate early ,the fatui intel dont even know what happening in the boss fight
golden sluice
real
golden sluice
You guys shouldn't celebrate early ,the fatui intel dont even know what happenin...
they knew Sandrone died
why wouldn't they know Dottore died too
yeah
especially if he betrayed the Fatui
tawdry blade
they knew Sandrone died
Because she would not be in the same fight in the big hand of dottore
golden sluice
why else would she die 🤔
tawdry blade
The Fatui gather intel from eachother,but if they dont see it,they can't confirm it
They also believed Childe was injured from the flood,In reality,he was fighting with a higher powerful being,not getting hit with a flood
golden sluice
also isn't one of the harbingers mysteriously disappearing something they would like the soldiers to not know
it would cause doubt in the ranks
tawdry blade
My point is those two fatui "intels" are not from Tsarista herself
You should go check all of their dialouge history
Most of them are just gossiping
golden sluice
actually wait
tawdry blade
Hearing from another comrades ,so dont celebrate too early yet,it wont be fun when it is preload
golden sluice
@ashen ocean where's that one leak meowtews shared and u tagged me in
it's a leak that
adds up
with a lot of things
that we've seen in the beta and what the fatui members said
tawdry blade
Any detail?
tawdry blade
it said Sandrone dies
Oh,sandrone died and scaramoche did not die
golden sluice
and few other things
golden sluice
Oh,sandrone died and scaramoche did not die
yea and Dottore ran away or smthn
I tired looking for it but meowtews deleted it
tried*
tawdry blade
Probably because it is wrong..?
tawdry blade
Then why would he deleted it
golden sluice
tbf she did get a lot of criticism
for sharing
leaks
sus ones
that's prly why
welp
I only recall
the bit about Tartaglia's plot in 6.3
- Sandrone dying and revivng
and Dottore running away
there were other details
I'll look for it in Dottoremains or Sandrone mains
tawdry blade
It wasn't teammew
And there was no dottore running as far as I know,I am very active here unless none of you guys posted it here because reposter couldn't verify it
golden sluice
nah not that one
tawdry blade
It is tho
tawdry blade
Anyway,quite strange for them to confirm that Wanderer wont die,as if he is going to do something insane
I will just leave a random theory before watching an anime,Dottore run away,to the path of Irminsul to possibility do one final attempt at destroying Teyvat system in case he failed, but he was ambushed by Scaramoche who with the help of Nicole,wait for him in the irminsul. We dont know list of character involved in the AQ yet but if Nahida is in it then chance is ..
It also fit him because he would have back up plan assuming he failed to destroy the fake sky completely,at least he would be able to damage the Irminsul? With the moon power,it should be a piece of cake for him to teleport to the Irminsul with his lingering kuuvaki
golden sluice
hhonestly I always had a crack theory
that the Fatui had a plan focusing on Dottore and Capitano specifically
Dottore destroying the Irminsul along with it the leylines in the world
and Capitano immediately growing new leylines
since he basically shares his body with the lord of the night
I mean
Capitano grow them back
using the power of the lord of the night
now the Fatui control the leylines instead of celestia
tawdry blade
Reconstructing Leyline take a lot of time
And Teyvat is huge
Teyvat would succumbed to the abyss by that point
Ronova could just disobey and break the rule though
Tbh,the 6.3 modnstatd fatui make it look like pierro is going to be the real big guy
golden sluice
Tbh,the 6.3 modnstatd fatui make it look like pierro is going to be the real big...
real bad guy or u mean he's the one in control instead of the Tsaritsa?
tawdry blade
real bad guy or u mean he's the one in control instead of the Tsaritsa?
In control
golden sluice
maybe then the guy who said Dottore implanted a virus is right, a virus affects them bit by bit, Capitano then replaces them bit by bit
there's no Capitano sharing the body
with the master of the leylines
isn't something relevant right
surely hoyo wouldn't just ignore it
golden sluice
In control
it gives me hope ngl
they said he has plans for all 11 harbingers
wait
did they say 11 or 10 harbingers
tawdry blade
11
golden sluice
we should've gotten a Fatui faction for reputation quests in Nod Krai
tawdry blade
Well he might also has a plan for Traveler? With Traveler moral,it is predictable and he believes he can convince traveler
golden sluice
Well he might also has a plan for Traveler? With Traveler moral,it is predictabl...
he definitely does
he probably knew of his existence
since the cataylsm
considering he knew their twin
in Khaenriah
tawdry blade
Anyways,I dont think "controlling Leyline" is that big of a deal,Capitano goal was to rewrite the rule so that the sinners of his homeland can rest peacefully, also Leyline help defend Teyvat from the abyss,destroying it is equal to letting the abyss in. Idk what the fatui is thinking if they would think destroy every leyline and reconstruct it is going to do anything when it is doing fine...
golden sluice
btw
is it confirmed that they are
the leylines are uhhhhh
what's the word
corrupted
since the souls of Khaenrians were able to get inside?
tawdry blade
since the souls of Khaenrians were able to get inside?
No I dont think so,their soul has nothing to do with the curse or abyss
Also the leyline would defend against any abyssal/corruptive soul given it purpose is to reduce Teyvat corruption
golden sluice
then what's the cause of the leylines problem in Liyue?
tawdry blade
Let me look up that story again
slender haven
since the souls of Khaenrians were able to get inside?
It is not
No he already overwrote HP's rules
slender haven
then what's the cause of the leylines problem in Liyue?
Capitano taking control and overwriting the rules
Probably
tawdry blade
then what's the cause of the leylines problem in Liyue?
Basically death leaked out of the border,it has happened multiple times before but it is extreme bad in this event(the other time was when the 8 adeptus purify Tou Dao. NQ mentioning Natlan recent event could be that they have the same issue,not necessarily Capitano doing since again,it happened a lot before. Ngl,I just feel like every region really does have their own fake sky and leyline
That why it is "probably "
golden sluice
Basically death leaked out of the border,it has happened multiple times before b...
and the stygian onslaught?
oh alright
tawdry blade
Abyssl Blossom Leyline
slender haven
Cap giving him the pyro gnosis to burn Irminsul
slender haven
Basically death leaked out of the border,it has happened multiple times before b...
No Ningguang says that the Natlan was stuff caused 5.3
Ha.
long crest
slender haven
Or Nibelung and his huge bulging lizard muscles
analog merlin
Back to the potential of Sandrone breaking during the fight against Dottore and repairing her after the fight... Hopefully they confirm she was Alain's final creation.
distant citrus
Wanderer -
Everything in Teyvat is logged in Irminsul, but The Withering that once occurred in Sumeru was a sign that that great world tree was being corrupted.
Albedo -
This corruption allowed things that should not have existed in Teyvat to appear... This is tantamount to rewriting reality to an extent.
Durin -
You're saying, Abyssal power might be able to affect these phantoms?
So durin used his abyss power to create "variables" which briefly changed the memories of one of the ghost from hyperborea
But how did dottore do it then?
What the fuck did he use to implant false memories of moon into those hyperborean ghosts?
Did he use the abyss too then? Well he was involved with Rerir experiment so maybe he did have access to abyss....
"But Dottore shouldn't have been able to get in there in the first place!"
"He didn't. Nicole said that this was an anomalous state triggered by disruptions in the causal connections between phantoms from the same era."
"The "variables" that Dottore put in place were substantial enough that they even affected phantoms that he never met."
This causal connection was disrupted probably because of wild hunt? Is this Rerir? Is this why Dottore was behind reviving him?
Guess we'll find out next update what these "variables" we're precisely...
"He turned these variables into knowledge and engineered the situation so all that knowledge would fall into his hands.Then, he harnessed that knowledge on Moon-Prayer Night... to truly create a "false moon."
The variables Mason...what do they mean?
distant citrus
But Dottore was not there so how would he create those thought into their minds?
How did he do it?
I understand in case of durin since he used abyss powers and albedo explains it that abyss created disturbance in irminsul which causes disruption
But how would Dottore do it?
Yeah that's what I was talking about it's not explained how he put those variables there.... Just that he did
It's like saying I used powers of "x" to do something.. Now what is this "x"
My guess was it's something to do with his experiment with Rerir and wild hunt... Well that's abyss so checks out I guess but no confirmation
Like albedo says abyss causes disturbance in irminsul
We see wild hunt and Rerir episode (caused by Dottore)
So maybe this is what caused the disruption and Dottore took the opportunity here
Because disturbance in irminsul is not caused by kuuvahki but abyss
The records of the past shouldn't change unless they were contaminated by abyss
Albedo explains that
The hyperborean ghost we saw had changes in their memories even nicole said history as she remembered was bit different from what these ghost remember
There are two things here...
- the disturbance in irminsul that causes these disruption
- this disruption leads to the "variables" which Dottore used to implant false memories
I'm saying number 1 is caused by abyss as albedo said and we proved this with durin when we changed the memories of that one hyperborean ghost...
In fact that ghost interacted with us too and talked about history this is precisely the "variable" that is talked about
And Alice also confirm that there were disturbance detected around the border
What I was thinking is that in case of durin it's clear he used his abyss powers to cause changes
But Dottore case is not clear so there's the speculation that this is wild hunt something he too was involved with
She mistook it as problem with the border but didn't realize it was Dottore creating divergence
But the disturbance was real Dottore did create it the question is what did he use if not the wild hunt...
Is that "the three moons at the same place at the same time"?
Hmm yeah it can be
Nah that doesn't explain the memories corruption of ghosts
It has to be abyss since that's the explanation given by albedo
Also why would light energy cause disturbance in irminsul doesn't make sense...
That's because of abyss though
He said the corruption from abyss can cause change to history
That's not something light energy can do
Otherwise changing leylines would've happened long time ago
Where?
Didn't he go inside the irminsul though?
While Dottore didn't even go to the place where the ghost appeared....
And he used nahida help who's literally an avatar of irminsul
Except they said he didn't go there
Yeah nvm probably will be explained later or not cause it doesn't matter much I guess
He has a lot of tools at his disposal probably has something to create causal disturbances too
That's confirmed yeah he didn't go to the place or even met any ghost
Oh right the moon festival is when the moon is closest to teyvat
Probably that's what caused the disturbances... And moons have been corrupted with abyss...
I'll watch
Then probably the moon itself
That's filled with kuvahki
The "variables" that Dottore put in place were substantial enough that they even affected phantoms that he never met.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/1pdzjim/62_archon_quest_spoilers_about_histories_and/
This post talks about "variables"
Basically remember how Fontaine fate was to drown but because of "variables" (Traveler in this case) introduced we changed the "how" of that fate
The same for simulanka durin who is another "variables" where he shouldn't exist in teyvat but he does
distant citrus
The "variables" that Dottore put in place were substantial enough that they even...
But this again begs the question what variables did Dottore put there
Nvm no point for now just go with the flow for now
He's fat
Also slightly unique npc
Yeah
Also in the post above op talks about how "variables" can change the "how" of fate but not the outcome so durin even though could influence the ghost he couldn't change his fate
But the ultimate "variable" Aka descender can change even the final outcome of fate as seen with traveler
That's it I feel although he still put his own variables in that place
And when one variables stack upon other it created the disruption
You told me that underground place in fatui place where kuvahki experiment was going on was Dottore's lab right?
I guess we know where his own variables came from then...
Then durin and traveler on top of that would've caused multiple variables to overlap thus creating the disruption...
Man Dottore was planning from the beginning
Must've used all the chaos with Rerir to place his own variables in place too
True
oh wait another thing i remember... He tasked sandrone to do something on his behalf too (which she had no idead what it was about) 🤯
That one she knew though...
Actually nvm I must've remembered wrong
distant citrus
@ashen ocean https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/s/FjFhiO59Le
Interesting stuff
And then they say nod krai was not planned
tawdry blade
NodKrai was still not plan,but hoyo can easily make a new region out of some lore
I dont know why but I feel like the Hexenzirkel intentionally let Columbina captured since it is fate and they are not allowed to change it. I will never stop saying that Nicole can easily use telepathy to warn us
B definitely know Columbina fate but her trying to reassure her death could mean something else so that Columbina wont change her mind and go in another time
It is the same with Fontaine, N could easily tell us about Furina,but she give us some questions. But Traveler is good at keeping secret so we wont tell anyone else, at least Furina won't get trauma from that court
So yeah,the Hexenzirkel might set this up,dodoco phone ringing doesn't help with this case when there are many way to warn everyone
Also woukd Space of asmoday is in 6.3 I rewatched "God limit" and just realised there were a bunch of red cube(space of asmoday), also did not noticed the Shade saying that it is time for them to intervene (within their limit)
tawdry blade
This one?
Missing context tbh
Also for a "dead" galaxy,there are still a lot of star
tawdry blade
So B look into Paimon fate and she has a bad reaction to it,asking if she truly wish to see her fate
distant citrus
Is there any follow up here? Just looks like B rage baiting paimon
golden sluice
the Iridiscent moon knew Columbina's name right?
@ashen ocean
what's the most probable explanation for it?
saw someone making a theory about it
nah on twitter but maybe he got it from ashikai idk
that Nibelung imprisoned the moon sisters in the moon's reflection and time is not linear inside
Columbina met them there and they helped her and that's how the Iridescent moon knew her name
sounds like a crack theory but wasn't there a leak recently that the moon sisters are the ones helping her get out?
I do
I'll try looking for it
most probably in FatuiHQ or Dottoremains
cz the genshin leak sub always deletes them
@ashen ocean also
wouldn't that explain the 3 unknown tall females?
but there's nothing in 6.2 about them
yeah
and a datamine can't be wrong
so they must be appearing eventually
exactly
they never
or at least
not often
do such a thing
wtfffffffffff
I NEVER HEARD OF THAT
REALLY?
I never heard of it
distant citrus
I thought hyposelenia was name for previous frost moon and that's how iridescent moon knew but now that you guys mention it it might not be the case...
Also when columbina was getting her fortune read by B future card was drawn automatically... That was a "variable" introduced by someone right there
Someone is out there alright....
And also did you guys see how nicole never confirmed she was the one who was behind all those events back in 6.0 like those books in library or that shield that protected hisi island...
Those could also be "variables" being put there by someone
I can guess it might be one of the shade most likely Asmoday but I'm not sure...
Maybe the previous three moon goddesses are behind all this
Before dying they might have put these "variables" into the future to change columbina's fate
Would explain how iridescent moon knew columbina's name then
cedar juniper
holy quest
nothing really happened at first it really felt like an event quest or whatever but dottore reveal was insane ngl
and i was spoiled
still cool as shit
golden sluice
@ashen ocean what could he be referencing
idts
why would they hype it so much
slender haven
<@765806676111917096> what could he be referencing
Jesus is gonna ressurect on the third day?!?!?????! WTF spoilers????
golden sluice
huh
I did see that picture
before he posted it
some people theorized that Dottore is bringing the moon back into teyvat
same picture same picture
then what else is
he
hyping
up a lot
which he probably wants to do no?
lines up with that one leak that said he's distracting the HP from his real goal
probably
this
distracting them from his end goal which is to mess with the Irminsul
oh yea
slender haven
Idk
Thanos picking up the Infinity Gauntet and saying "fine I'll do it myself"
Avengers x Genshin collab confirmed
Nah the Traveler loses and he gets beaten by the latests 5 star
Probably
Something to do with Hyperborea maybe
Perhaps she wants something to do with the gnosis plot
tawdry blade
The abyss is attacking mondstatd soon yeah
tawdry blade
<@765806676111917096> what could he be referencing
Traveler? Phanes? Sandrone(she aint doing shit if she revived anyways ) Columbina ?
golden sluice
Traveler? Phanes? Sandrone(she aint doing shit if she revived anyways ) Columbin...
I find it funny how her release date is at the same patch as Rerir's weekly boss
wait
is she 6.6 or 6.7
wtf
so he's actually bringing it inside?
that's
so peak
😭
he's so goated
isn't that a good thing for Columbina tho
yea
nahhhhhhh there gotta be more to it
yeah I suppose
tawdry blade
That is so small..
Would be funny if he actually plan to drop it on Teyvat instead
The damage would be huge
Gravity disorder everywhere
I know but using real world example
The moon look small from far away but if it was close ,it would be super big
slender haven
Cool I guess
tawdry blade
Small object from distance look bigger when it is closer,it is basic
Anyway it look like this
slender haven
Btw do you think the Moons are relative to the Shades or nah
Idk, we'll probably find out more in a version or so
We know they controlled life, death, and the others too so maybe they helped make the Shades or something
I know
It's vague though so I get a headache trying to understand it
tawdry blade
The moon power is mainly to reserve life in Teyvat only meanwhile Shade can also destroy and reserve,PO did not kill them because they are free labor to him..
slender haven
Or so we think
They love twists after all
They only care about the Fatui atp
They're desk jockies
tawdry blade
A comfortable bed
tawdry blade
I just realised, shouldn't the moon be brighter since it is exposed to the sunlight
slender haven
Ronova: The boot licker one
Naberius: The gay one
tawdry blade
I just realised, shouldn't the moon be brighter since it is exposed to the sunli...
I guess it is abyssal stuff
golden sluice
why is a Nibelung reincarnation a thing
huh
so it'll
happen
eventually?
also how did the person who made knew Rerir is coming
oh
who's considered the pimary antagonist of Nod Krai tho?
considering Rerir
will be back
as a second weekly boss
same
yeah i figured
u said july
how did u know tho
ok yeah makes sense
tawdry blade
distant citrus
Damn so scara thought the story cursed him for cutting himself off from irminsul and that might be affecting durin...
Is that a subtle confirmation that teyvat is also a story
Yeah I think I can see how abyss twin can appear without going outside of spaceship
He's from another branch of irminsul
Merged with current branch by istaroth
Although still doesn't explain what would happen to current branch abyss twin... Maybe both merged together or something like direidyth did
Hmm it does look like irminsul just delete the older data or something so maybe when alternate branch version of abyss twin got merged with the current branch the og version inside the spaceship got deleted/forgotten?
And if they're forgotten would that make them the demiurge...
Huh so the magic of "storytelling" (Fate) was given by celestia
Damm the story lock... Gotta wait another day to finish this quest 
tawdry blade
Hmm, columbina E is basically Dottore ult attack in small scale
distant citrus
Lore wise yes but maybe not like seperate area type thing maybe before it would have been part of sheznaya plot itself
But they left lot of lore outside the main story and kept expanding so much that they had to make seperate area for nod krai
Yeah I made that connection after simulanka but now they're being upfront with it too
Branch represent the timeline
Like durin choosing to not go to Mondstadt was one branch but the fate of that branch led to durin becoming evil again
So they had to go back to current branch where he instead went to Mondstadt
Of course this is all within the story book of B
But teyvat works similarly so for example the mini durin and teyvat durin both had same fate but when mini durin took over teyvat durin's place his fate didn't change and instead irminsul started rejecting him and that's why people in his story quest started forgotting him
I haven't completed the story yet one last quest remains tomorrow will be done
But I'm guessing traveler will have something to do with changing his fate again
Yes lore wise it's a bomb
No because it's against the rule of fate
Both durin shares the same fate because M used abyss durin fate to create mini durin in her own story world
So when mini durin took abyss durin place in teyvat the fate system couldn't allow two people to share same fate and started rejecting him
Hmm let me check again probably got it wrong
Long, long ago,
the gods of the high heavens gave the world outside the castle a magic of its own. They called it: "storytelling."
It was a magic of almost unshakable power
that governed how people met, grew close,
and understood one another.
Each person had a story meant for them, and them alone,
one whose ending was written in the heavens long ago.
In truth, your story and the evil dragon's are simply
two versions of the same tale,
and that is something the magic of storytelling cannot abide.
Beyond the castle's walls, your story cannot take root —
for the evil dragon's tale has done so already.
"You still don't get it? Simulanka Durin and Teyvat Durin share a special kind of connection: their fates are mirror images of one another.
While they were in two separate worlds, there may have been some mutual influence, but their fates were independent.
But when Simulanka Durin came to Teyvat, a version of his fate already existed there. So, how can two fates exist at the same time?
The answer is, they can't. The rules of this world don't allow it. You can't return a book you never checked out in the first place."
Yup can't have same fate
It literally spells out they mirrored each other's fate
It's two side of the same coin situation
So yes two souls cannot have same fate which is why mini durin was rejected
Because we changed that in simulanka but mini durin came out of simulanka into teyvat now which creates conflict because he's now using abyss durin fate and now he's getting rejected
Its like he crossed over the mirror world but the real world now rejects him
What he had was mirror of abyss durin fate and because the two worlds (simulanka and teyvat) are in different space it didn't create conflict but now mini durin came over to this side and that create the conflict
I'm sure we'll fix this all just gotta wait until tomorrow
Damn the quest lock
The later two entities cannot share same fate within same space
More likely hex power
Witches are built different
Because rukha was avatar of irminsul itself while nahida was just a branch
But yes it's confusing in a way
I don't think we'll get full answer yet
But for now we get to know fate cannot be shred between two individual
Each individual has their own fate
Two fate can have similarities though as we've seen with ajax
So maybe a copy can exist but not the original be shared between two?
Probably as I said they share similarities not the og fate itself
As that is unique to individual
Wait I think I read something about it in neuv story let me see something here...
distant citrus
ok so what I understand the stars represent the individual fate and that is unique and can't be shared
But a constellation is made up of multiple stars no?
Maybe that is shared between individual? And so while fate is unique the individual's journey can have parallels?
Just my two cents not sure if I have it correct though
"He can see, in the skies of destiny, how many stars contend with one another, creating a complicated, fragile world. "
Multiple stars contend with each other to create constellation I think which is what can be shared
But then you're saying the current durin quest is wrong which I don't think so
Especially when said fate mechanism is explained by a witch
Can you point out where it was said kinich shared the same fate? Was it said fate?
Thing is fate is already written and unique for individual
So sharing doesn't make sense
Otherwise mini durin and abyss durin shouldn't have a problem since we changed mini durin fate anyway in simulanka
Kinich and malipo don't even live in seperate mirror space for them to not have problem
Like mini durin did
We changed the fate in story world yes
It was supposed to follow the abyss durin fate too but we changed that
Since it's mirror world
Yes because in teyvat abyss durin fate already exist and mini durin taking over that doesn't work and irminsul started erasing mjni durin
Probably we'll fix it here too with travelers help
Yeah that created the conflict with the rule that two individual cannot share the same fate so now it's trying to erase him
I don't know I'll fid out tomorrow one last quest remains
It's 5 days locked gl
But as I said one is an avatar of irminsul itself and other just a branch
maybe she had some administrator privilege
Yeah will read nahida story again sometime maybe will find something
Rukha was also erased at the same time like how mini durin is being erased by irminsul
Maybe that's it
One has to go before other can take place
And by go I don't mean die but erased from irminsul record
Yeah I didn't mean death but record erasure from irminsul
Because that's what's happening to mini durin
And already happened with Rukha
Yeah I think it fits now
Probably it's metaphorical now not same fate in technical terms
Or as I said they share constellation not the stars
But that is my own distinction its not stated in game so take it with a grain of salt
I still have to ask though cause I don't remember but was it said fate explicitly? Or was it destiny or stuff?
Cuase if it's later it could be metaphorical
Yes but it wouldn't be fate as in technical terms but in human terms which is metaphorical
Wait but night kingdom was not part of irminsul no? It had been outside of the leylines no?
Maybe that's why
Actually nvm cause we did connect it towards the end...
Yeah I don't know anymore
Let me finish the quest tomorrow see if it make sense or not
Yeah but that's also probably game limitations which could cause problems in storytelling
But I get the point
True
Yeah true
I feel previous sharing of fate was just metaphorical like passing the torch kinda thing
Cause they already established that fate can't be shared unless it's seperated by different worlds like in case of simulanka
Mini durin exist too he's just slowly getting erased
Maybe rukha being a God takes time to fully erase and she did got erased so that's not an evidence
Maybe that helped abyss I mean
She was also an avatar of irminsul meaning she was the irminsul so probably a bit different case here too
Not the same as durin and mini durin
And as I said being an avatar of irminsul means she probably had some privilege to turn the rules or something no?
She still got deleted anyway but that's besides the point
I'll see sumeru quest again maybe they didn't share the fate after all
Cause one died and got erased other still lives
If fate was similar both would've died or got erased long ago
One of them I mean
Not both
"While they were in two separate worlds, there may have been some mutual influence, but their fates were independent. "
Could rukha be hiding in different space? There by not influencing nahida?
Btw this dialogue is from durin quest not sumeru
"But when Simulanka Durin came to Teyvat, a version of his fate already existed there. So, how can two fates exist at the same time? "
And didn't it happen with rukha and nahida too? When they finally met each other one got erased?
Yeah but it doesn't negate the rule
Willing or not one had to go...
One who takes action will certainly leave one's traces behind. When one wishes to eradicate oneself, a paradox would thus occur.
@ashen ocean Probably the answer is that rukha and nahida weren't two seperate entity but one and the same
While was irminsul itself nahida was a branch
A tree and it's branch are part of the same package not different
Two trees cannot share the same roots
But the branch are just part of the tree itself
And didn't create conflict because it wasn't two seperate entity
Not the same entity
One was created by Rhine other by M
Just that M used the same fate
Yeah and that created the conflict when mini durin came over to Teyvat
Such is not a problem with Rukha and nahida because they're the same entity
As seen in main quest when durin tried to change fate of that ghost and failed
And the one from outside the story that can truly change the fate is called descender
Yeah point remains fate's ending can't be changed
Even if the interference is created it still doesn't change the ending
Probably doesn't exist
Like she never once mention his name or anything
Doesn't even acknowledge him
Ye the hint that she was created
Eh but who knows maybe hoyo will have a change in heart and actually make the husband real
distant citrus
Maybe he's out there somewhere like how Octavia keeps traveling to different planet
tawdry blade
Octavia? But the trailer make it look like she let whatever catch up to her
tawdry blade
I feel like Dottore pulling the moon back to Teyvat will backfire and will be the moment Columbina return from "death" rather than her return early on.
Frost moon might reconnect to teyvat when Dottore pulled it back,which will 100% have some weird shenanigans, considering the old Moon Goddess somehow know Columbina,there is some time shenanigans happening and this is when the epic Columbina special weekly battle theme play
Another person think "it'd be a fitting thing that his ambition and capability ends up working against him rather than him directly failing or being incompetent"
hasty narwhal
He really is genshin's "allegory of the cave"
tawdry blade
Could be, in the final scene ,the visual effect of her disappearing is the same as the moment she "reborn" when jumping at Traveler when we are about to leave her cave
tawdry blade
Do v2 beta usually leakcharacter that will involve in the AQ
distant citrus
It's a book by Plato
The allegory was used by Zandar in HSR that's what I think they meant
Prisoners inside a cave are shackled
There's a single source of fire casting shadow
Outside the cave are people talking
But the prisoners only see the shadows of them
They start thinking these shadow are the source of those voice but that's not the reality
Allegory was used by Zandar by calling the people inside amphoreus as those prisoners and the person outside the cave being the demiurge being hidden from their reality
Maybe I'm missing something but that was the jist of it
Cyrene
golden sluice
then where's the line count 💔
distant citrus
It's a bit complicated because you have to play to understand that since future is past and present thing happens
But yeah it's just her
golden sluice
I need to see Dottore 6967 lines 
distant citrus
Yeah basically it
long crest
"AHEM"
golden sluice
manifesting line count leak
golden sluice
manifesting line count leak
@ashen ocean manifestation worked
yes
DOTTORE 134 LINES
RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Rerir's definitely back too
yeah ig the separate IDs means acts
Dottore having way too little lines in the second act is worrying
but first act lines being that much is so nice
@ashen ocean apparently this is the end of the AQ
the usual lore drop of every AQ end I guess?
im thinking he might be talking about what's happening in Dornman port in 6.4
we'll see, I hope it goes well
also where's the second Il Dottore we've seen from honeyhunter?
is there a way we can make sure?
nice idea
ill check
@ashen ocean this is how it looks
yea they're two separate acts unfortunately
maybe he's categorizing both Dottores
as the same one
they had the same name in honeyhunter after all
@ashen ocean oh yea Columbina's getting cooked there
apparently
yeah
that he's going to join them in the fight against Dottore?
😭
oh 😭
YEAH
if they're talking like that
yeah I can see it
also Columbina talks with many
"???"
in the quest
ALSO
whenever we fight a weekly boss
there's always some lines after we beat them right?
outside of the cutscene
these are the last lines
in the second part of the second act
we don't fight the bosses in the 3rd part right
oof
Dottoremains are coping then
but you just said it's not guaranteed that it's after the fight
maybe then
we'll see
just 5 weeks
🥀
I wish
but that's certainly Varka
I hope the first theory is not the case
real
golden sluice
father coming to rescue his daughter fr
the fuck
before the boss?
oh okay
what is he doing there
fuck no bro id rather he dies
well if it's just research stuff sure
interested in his
uhhhhhh
descender status
yes
honestly I've always imagined him being playable that way
yeah if he's just treating like a test subject a very valuble one yes
hugo was a villain?
what were the dumb reasons to make him playable
how
🥀
this is why I don't want a good clone
yeah
I know
they will 😭
Dottore is either dying or getting
Sandroned