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slender haven
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I guess we'll find out soon

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Ok

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Because it broke off

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And drifted

lone sable
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how long are the new quests

distant citrus
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Saw one clocking at 5 hrs or something maybe more if you take your time
That's the archon quest btw

lone sable
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5 hours bruh

slender haven
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I know about that
Hyperborea broke off and defined far north leaving its palaces behind

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I'm not disagreeing it became north

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That's it

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Yes

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Leaving the Palace behind

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We know Piramida is from the "golden age"
I.E. Hyperborea

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Some dialogue says it was built on a "golden age" lighthouse or something

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Yeah but the Lightkeepers came right after that
It'd be weird to call them different ages

distant citrus
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hyperborea is synonymous with golden city they're used interchangeably in game

slender haven
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This convo is going nowhere tbh
I'm just gonna end it here cause I have to do some college work

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Thanks though

distant citrus
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Ah but tsar was dead by the time solovei formed the lightkeepers
Remember the organization was created after the disaster ended

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With mad monk that is

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When cataclysmic arrived there was already the faction

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Yes I believe

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Although cataclysm happened shortly after with few years gap or something

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Thing is we don't know anything meaningful about hroptatyr unlike other sinners so I can't make the connection here with dottore
Also wouldn't surtologi be paired with skirk?

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Yes but they have no other connection
If anything childe pairs with ajax

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Rhine and albedo have common alchemy connection
Rerir and arle have crimson moon connection
Surtologi and skirk are connected by fate

Tbh I don't see how childe would fit here apart from superficial connection but at that point it doesn't matter

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But let's say it is connected somehow it still leaves hroptatyr since we don't know anything about him lol

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So again can't really connect dottore here

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oh you're making opposite connection here
I thought you were connecting hroptatyr to dottore

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Hmm...Dottore wants the primordial powers which helps in breaking the influence of fate?

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Ye but hroptatyr is nowhere around for now and he's not going after moons either...
Would he go after irminsul then?

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That's where the blueprint of the whole planet is anyway

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@ashen ocean actually remember how new branch cannot be added to irminsul or existing branch be modified either
What if he finds the way? Wouldn't that be the feat on par with "reason"?

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Yeah

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Probably not

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We still have nicole patch later for shades to arrive or something

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True

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Dude literally stopped time

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But realistically it's columbina patch next so I don't think shades need to come she'll do the work

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Power of 3 moons basically meant he got powers of ancient teyvat system

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Which was more than enough to overcome current system

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Yes he's doing it for himself anyway

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Probably if he could break the influence then definitely although that lasted for short time only lol

golden sluice
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idts

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how are they beating him if he is

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no one in Nod Krai

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is near that level

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not even her 🥀

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he's not that strong

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also I just

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finished the cutscene

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my genuine reaction

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nah

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I wanna save it

distant citrus
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He definitely becomes the false moon so yes but I think columbina will take back the marrow

golden sluice
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yeah

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tell me

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is it true that the second phase

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doesn't seem like it's his?

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and more like

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the second phase against Natlan's boss

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🥀

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he's dying dying

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fuck sake

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also

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I noticed something

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in en it doesn't seem like he talks like he did in Sumeru?

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oh yea I saw

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that's what im thinking

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back in Sumeru I noticed Boattore and Omegattore don't talk the same way either

distant citrus
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Every harbringer that's become boss was playable
Watch as dottore break that pattern C_TaoHehe

golden sluice
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neither does funeral Dottore

distant citrus
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Oh right signora she was so irrelevant I forgot C_TaoHehe

golden sluice
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probably

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but good lord

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this is so so

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amazing

distant citrus
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I don't think there any more clone now
It's og one left only
Let's see next update what his reasoning is behind all his plot

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Right now he just looks like mad scientist with dubious morals

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Surely there's more

golden sluice
distant citrus
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Dude looked at deshret and said I'll beat him C_TaoHehe

distant citrus
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Maybe he too would find peace like deshret once he realise what he truly wants

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I remember that there was this villain in hi3rd called Otto who successfully managed to insert a new branch(timeline) into the imaginary tree
Maybe hroptatyr will be like him and if he is well take it from me it will be good (as long as they don't fumble)

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Zandar is a genius the first one of the genius society
He created an aeon
I don't think dottore even comes close so no

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Power of reason would also mean making the rules

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Nous

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Erudition and yes we have

golden sluice
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@ashen ocean btw Dottore didn't get inside the gate with Columbina apparently

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I wonder what's Dottore doing now

distant citrus
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He fled cause sooner or later hex witches will be on his ass E_pepelol

golden sluice
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nah they're busy

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weird

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we're gonna see him

distant citrus
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Because of him C_TaoHehe

golden sluice
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very early

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in the next archon quest

distant citrus
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5 hours or so maybe more depending on how you play

golden sluice
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the festival part is such a slog bro

distant citrus
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Yeah but it was funny especially sandrone one so it's okay

golden sluice
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im deadass looking through twitter to find people taking screenshots of Dottore's cutscene cz I was ecstatic I forgot to take any screeshots 😭

distant citrus
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Now that I think about it if traveler wasn't there to stop him what was this dude trying to do anyway
Ok so you froze everything now what? Fight shades? C_TaoHehe

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What about other sinners?

golden sluice
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he said

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final experiment for a reason

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remember when in Sumeru

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Nahida asked him what was he planning to do if Scaramouche succeeds?

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he said he didn't think of it

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I think same thing here

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he was conducting an experiment

distant citrus
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Wouldn't that start the confrontation with Celestia? Was he alone enough for that?
Maybe he thought he was

golden sluice
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he didn't think of what do after it

distant citrus
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I don't think we know much about asmoday to make that assertion
Especially when every record of hers has been wiped out by istaroth making her even more suspicious

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Also rerir wasn't his full powers

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How? She doesn't have beginning nor end neither birth nor death isn't that mentioned for her in one of those arcana cards?

hasty narwhal
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*Though there is no meaning in this world within an eggshell,
The "fortune" we speak of is not some false metaphor,
In 14 billion "years" of darkness,
It is the sum of all that is destined to happen and all that never will.

Partings, encounters, and partings once more,
Birth, destruction, and birth yet again,
In the darkness of 93 billion "years" of light,
All existence holds meaning unknown to any,
Without which this universe would seem too solitary.

This is the "fortune" that divination cards speak of,
Or that which cannot be spoken.

The "Wheel of Fortune" turns ever onwards,
But there are things which are never forgotten,
Things that can never be destroyed.
At least, I am willing to believe so.
Just as you believe in reunion with her.*

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I'd say she's existing as long as the universe exists, which will end one day as everything else.

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no it's the fortune card description in the arcana serie which has istaroth

golden sluice
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which day is next patch going to drop btw

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oh so I wasn't wrong

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I need this month to pass by FAST

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probs

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I got vacation this month after all

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yeah I know wanted to make sure of the date

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second act is a slog

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real

limber yarrow
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Oh yeah bois Traveller is finally back on the power scaling ladder after having been kicked off it by Arle
WE ARE SO BACK

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Finally, some real Traveller going full power again. Arle better not try vying for that rematch because it is clear moon related DDOS powers no longer can hold our ass

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I honestly did not expect this power jump

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Nah mate we'd body Arle now

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Dottore is 2 ranks above Arle and he wasn't capable of repelling us

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This is huge, honestly

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But it does make sense. it always irked me how inconsistent they've been with Travellers power level post Inazuma

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Because they establish way back in Liyue that our power goes up exponentially with every other element, with just getting Geo jumping us from "not even a threat" to "bodying Childe" and then Ina showing how Electro allows us to outright body number 8

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We've had Dendro + Hydro + Pyro plus the lunar buff, but this is the first time our power leap has been acknowledged in the official Teyvat Leaderboards since Inazuma

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That too

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It does make sense though, it means that with Cryo we'd realistically be at the territory of Pierro

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I don't think there is much of a power gap between Pierro and Capitano

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if any at all

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Though yes;

We'd be Archon tier

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Specifically, Mavuika/Raiden tier

tawdry blade
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Nah she was slacking off

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Since she thought it was regular occurrence

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Which is weird cuz

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Where is Nicole

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Just fucking use telepath

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I know Hexenzirkel are more capable

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B with her divinity magic

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Could have done something

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Well considering he said something about the Shade and HP believe he would fail

limber yarrow
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Also wait what I'm pretty sure it is explicitly stated that the only entity capable of using Reason is the Heavenly Principles

tawdry blade
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I guess Hexen probably think so too

limber yarrow
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Given that Reason is literally reality bending

tawdry blade
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Hroptatyr reason power would be twisted tho

limber yarrow
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It is something we know to be unique to the most powerful being in Teyvat and the Descenders, which is why the Descenders are so utterly broken

tawdry blade
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Not even Teyvat,they could use it outside Teyvat

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So Teyvat used to have 3 reality bender at once

limber yarrow
# tawdry blade Hroptatyr reason power would be twisted tho

Hroptatyr would have the abyss, which is essentially anti-reason.

I would also add that Pierro = Hroptatyr is a fringe theory only a few here believe including myself and is contingent on a lot of remarks by Pierro being ironic in nature.

Unless they actualy are confirmed to have the same VA since last patch and somehow this shit flew under my radar

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Fuck. I'm like 4 missions behind still

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Anyways, nice to see the Travellers L streak finally interrupted. He got pounded through 200t of marble in Sumeru, was a spectator almost a full arc who then got dogwalked by Arle in Fontaine, and basically spent Natlan being everyone else's hypemen before playing second fiddle to Mavuika in the climax. We are so back bois and I love to see it

golden sluice
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@ashen ocean where's the false moon you told me about in the quest

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apparently it's just a false memory he implanted

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oh

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well

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that explains why his

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weekly boss title

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is false moon god or something

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yeah

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yeah I saw it

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how is it going to be a draw against Dottore with allat

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I can't imagine anyone in the NK cast being able to fight him toe to toe

limber yarrow
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All that Aura and planning just to have a twink jump 200m into the air and press him into fumbling the play

golden sluice
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what are the chances Rerir joins the fight

limber yarrow
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They basically just said as much.

Man is basically to Rerir what catnip is to a cat

golden sluice
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yeah but that's just the first act

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there's only two no?

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those quests are the first act's quest

limber yarrow
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I dunno Rerir could press us like crazy and we could press Dottore so hard he basically couldn't do anything but watch his plan implode

golden sluice
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hmm

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we don't know if

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it's the first act's?

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I think waiting for lines count leak can answer our question

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nah as much as I love Dottore

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I think Rerir has a decent chance

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with traveler

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  • full power Columbina
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yeah

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hmm she doesn't need the other two

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moon marrows to be full power no?

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and in the weekly splash art

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he has two moon marrows and a fake one

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isn't there

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isn't the fact a frostmoon marrow doesn't exist

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because Columbina exists

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?

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don't think it's happening tbh

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if he does

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it's wraps for Rerir Columbina and traveler

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hmm

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marketing wise

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considering it's her patch

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and they have to sell her

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I think she'll become full power before we fight him

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3 moons is a bad decision imo

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hmm

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too many questions

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I don't want to wait

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what's special about it

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the stream too

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and the lines count leak

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oh ok

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the lines count leak should happen before the end of the week

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right?

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yeah

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I'm thinking, if Rerir comes back

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and helps us against Dottore

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why would he fight us in 6.6

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true

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but considering how unhinged he is

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and the fact Dottore has two moon marrows

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I don't think he'll think that far

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true

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but he's unhinged af

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with the abyss' influence

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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oh we talked about it above

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what was it again

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Rerir appears in one of the quests

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in 6.3

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and Dottore from the splash art has two moon marrows

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and a fake one

tawdry blade
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Can be flash back,his current whereabouts

golden sluice
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Rerir wanted the moon marrow back in 6.0

golden sluice
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yeah chopped up 🥀

tawdry blade
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By the time of this AQ,Rerir probably already go elsewhere

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Chance of using spaceship to find Bina now?

golden sluice
tawdry blade
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Since dottore didnt go with her

golden sluice
tawdry blade
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Don't we have fully modeled ship

golden sluice
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we do

tawdry blade
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Pretty sure I saw it

golden sluice
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it dropped in 6.2 preload

tawdry blade
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Ye

golden sluice
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but it doesn't

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appear

tawdry blade
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Fully detailed

golden sluice
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in the aq

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for some reason

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nope

tawdry blade
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I see

golden sluice
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let me look for it

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yeah

tawdry blade
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Imagine the spaceship is in Durin SQA_WheezeTao

golden sluice
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it's post AQ soooooooo

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possible

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yes

tawdry blade
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We just suffered a depression like rerir then randomly play around in Mondstatd E_pepelol

analog merlin
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Can I talk about the new skins here, too?

golden sluice
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@ashen ocean yo I saw u mention

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roadmap for characterb uffs

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buffs

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can u show me

analog merlin
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Okay, so Lantern Rite outfits will still go to Neuvillette and Yaoyao as rumored ages ago with Zibai.

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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too bad the leaks subreddit doesn't upload sus leaks

golden sluice
analog merlin
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But the Travelers are getting 5-star skins tied to Song of the Welkin Moon. As it stands, they are simply minor buffs to every element the Traveler resonates with, and somehow it also includes Cryo, which we won't see until next year at the earliest.

golden sluice
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zamn did he talk when are the next buffs

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ohh okay

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😔

tawdry blade
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But it still make sense

golden sluice
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wasn't here for it

tawdry blade
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Crit dmg is always with cryo

golden sluice
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oh

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ok yea I remember seeing something like that

analog merlin
golden sluice
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not like I know something

golden sluice
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yeah the buffs

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I hope soon

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🥀

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why the emphasis on "white"

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huh

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but that doesn't make sense no?

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he came back with the abyss already

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yeah yeah

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im talking about this

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didnt he come back already corrupted with the abyss?

tawdry blade
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I think hyporan people did not have black paint

golden sluice
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which one

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isn't that confirmed

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in the quest

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that he destroyed two moons and cast one behind the fake sky

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ohhh

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the headless figure with a

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lantern

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I remember it

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oh okay

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ehh I don't think so he imprisoned them to fight phanes

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hat is it

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what*

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oh oka

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y

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🥀

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yeah its too

golden sluice
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was the place we found there Iridiscent moon marrow in under the abyss sea?

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was it explicitly said that PO got injured by Nibelung it made him the way he is right now?

limber yarrow
# golden sluice with traveler

Counterpoint: The traveller recieves a mandatory 80% stat debuff if he is in an action scene with any other friendly character other than Paimon or Nahida

golden sluice
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good

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I hate his bitch ass

limber yarrow
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That is also honestly something that chaps my ass cheeks; half the Traveller's L's is just him getting obligatorily nerfed because post-Sumeru Traveller can honestly blitz just about everything that isn't a harbinger, Archon or Sinner yet the narrative keeps having to pretend the other characters are there to help

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It's honestly remarkable how ass Traveller has been throughout Fontaine and Natlan

golden sluice
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how was he ass

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in Fontaine and Natlan

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?

tawdry blade
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Electro Traveler there could blitz those weak ass eremites LMAO

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I get that Traveler often try to protect other so he can't use full power but that is so blame

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Kathe would survive if Traveler blitz them all

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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I remember that yeah

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but is that it?

tawdry blade
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Then in Clorinde quest they have some bullshit mechanic or rule which Traveler,A Descender should be able to neglected

golden sluice
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tbh

tawdry blade
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And kill the guy

limber yarrow
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Inazuma: Bodies a living legend, 8th Harbinger, in a 1v1
Sumeru: Goes against what is probably one of the strongest entitities in the verse and wins due to dark-souls mode being enabled and is durable enough that a 3m marble floor breaks before his body does

Fontaine: Basically does nothing the arc. No seriously. All the Traveller does in Fontaine (which mind you, is EASILY the best story arc in all of Genshin) is basically figure out what the story is as it happens while everyone else kicks ass for him. Somehow struggles to take down some random ass builders

Natlan: Literally the most dedicated second fiddle in story telling. He is either backing up Kachina, Iansan or Mavuika. Even the epic Climax just sees us being Mavuika's sidekick lmao

golden sluice
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I skipped her entire story quest so idk about that

tawdry blade
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Traveler should be able to ignore that rule and beat it

golden sluice
limber yarrow
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Fontaine does remain undefeated in story tho, even if the Traveller was essentially just LARPing as an actual protaganist in it

golden sluice
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thoo I feel the fight against the narwhale is fine

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and against Arlecchino he should it's just

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weird how he didn't use

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the elements

tawdry blade
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Narwhal fight is Traveler with Neuvilette buff but the issue is that there is no cutscene of Traveler doing it...

golden sluice
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ig but logically at that point Neuv is carrying

limber yarrow
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Mihoyo has been forgetting for like 2 years that the Traveller is essentially this universe's equivalent of Kratos

tawdry blade
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I mean,Traveler skill is ultimately what keep him at the same level as God when buffed by other god

limber yarrow
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Just a snowballing freak of nature that is rapidly closing the gap with the local pantheon

golden sluice
tawdry blade
golden sluice
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makes sense

tawdry blade
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Although in Traveler case,we slowly get stronger

limber yarrow
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Yeah in terms of power, and how Kratos scales up from a human, to a blessed human, to a demigod, to an actual god, to a god above gods

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Because consistently showing off the how baller the Traveller is has 2 big issues;

It makes it really hard to sell 5*'s because you'll have to figure out an excuse why the Traveller didn't just blitz the entire issue while the 5 star was giving their emotional self-hype speech

Draw attention to how ABSOLUTELY ATTROCIOUSLY EXECUTED the Traveller is on a gameplay level

tawdry blade
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Hoyo intentionally make Traveler charged at Osial wife like a dumbass so they can show what Shenhe can do 😭

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Also to not show what Ganyu can do

limber yarrow
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I will never stop complaining about this and I will never accept financial arguments as to why the Traveller shouldn't be a solid element-switching character with imbued charge attacks that has been getting actual, permanent gameplay buffs every time he unlocks an element

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No instead we are still bolted to the yank-ass statue element swap

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Just rework the entire character already god damnit. I want the Traveller to essentially be a swiss pocket knife against OW nonsense where you can just slot him in your team and he can shield-strip and puzzle-solve fucking everything

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Every Q is a unique off-field applier. Every E is a damage burst with an aimed mode for puzzles and aimable weakspots. Charge attacks are always infused and will rotate the element, and every attack string has the geo/anemo style finisher.

This should be the baseline of all elemental kits so that the actually interesting kits with mechanical depth can go to the paid characters.

If you don't want to give a fuck about what enemies you're facing and just want to deal with their bullshit gimmick, slot in the Traveller and you'll never need anything else

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Also, every element should have its own AA animation because it's a crime that it doesn't

tawdry blade
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PMC can deal with abyss ward so that was something

limber yarrow
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I've not put my traveller on anything else since I got it

tawdry blade
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No lunar traveler kinda sad but ig we are giving Bina all the moon

limber yarrow
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And yes, ofc, once Hydro is unlocked E will cause Ousia/ Pneumia based on E/Hold E and once Tuamani is aqcuired everything is night-soul damage

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I will trade my firstborn for that rework

limber yarrow
tawdry blade
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Either they are still working on it and surprise us or nothing E_OMEGARAZOR

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I just realised the hydro beam color was deeper because it is more powerful/more pressure

golden sluice
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I noticed it too

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im gonna doom and say the va forgot the voice direction or it got changed

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it's been 3 years since Dottore got voiced after all

golden sluice
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@ashen ocean cut off part of that leak

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tawdry blade
long crest
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omfg

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@ashen ocean Done the first part of the quest? holy shit

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Alice talking about the heavenly principles

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shes SUCH A BOSS

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holy shit

distant citrus
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Interesting part about that was that while nibelung imprisoned the sisters and PO destroyed the moons
Neither of them had a hand in killing the sisters themselves so who did?
Remember I said that sisters might have taken sides during war well that turned out to be true they did take sides and had argument over that
But still that wouldn't be enough to kill each other now would it? Someone else was responsible I'm sure....

distant citrus
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She can just leave and the borders will be fucked she has the leverage here E_pepelol

long crest
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ofc

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also, omg history nerd besties

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bro is so cool

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distant citrus
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you can add 4 star linnea there

tawdry blade
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Iridescent for example

distant citrus
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oh true i forgot that

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the thing that wasn't clear was whether they managed to escape the prison

tawdry blade
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The prison might be the moon narrow itself

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They might or might not have a proper human like body, and their consciousness was imprisoned inside the moon narrow,each of them eventually fade away

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But their will remains, which is why Columbina sense a rejection for trying to use it?

distant citrus
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"She recalled how the silent shadows in their palaces among the stars quietly concealed the Moon's remnant that fell before them.
The remnant now placed in the center of the cyclonic mechanism,
Hidden where no one else will ever know, kept safe to this very day. "
was this reference to moon marrow being hidden?

tawdry blade
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Possible

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Remind me of Naberius..

distant citrus
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who are theses shadows among the stars though?

tawdry blade
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She was in an artifact

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A heart

distant citrus
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shades?

tawdry blade
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Yes

distant citrus
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yeah one said to return to nibelung side other said taking sides will not help nicole says as much but they were still inside prison for the duration of the war anyway

tawdry blade
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Moon turn on each other might be a lie tbh

distant citrus
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and they died because teyvat rejected them like columbina case after PO severed their connections to teyvat

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it's the in between that's hidden how did they escape prison because we know iridiscent did fled but what about others?

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"Discord would soon emerge between the three moon sisters. One would voice the opinion that they should follow Nibelung, for it was he who first hung the moons in the sky."
"Another would argue that taking sides in the conflict would only bring the world closer to ruin. There was no telling where it would lead."

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conflict was there but i don't think it led to them killing each other as nicole further says
"Whether the goddesses managed to escape Nibelung's captivity after his fall, nobody knows."
"But this much is certain: From that day on, the moons no longer belonged to Teyvat. The rejection slowly drained their power until eventually, they passed away."

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we know iridiscent fled to khanerriah but what about other two? did they just sit idly by? C_TaoHehe

tawdry blade
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Ye

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Eternal Moon is still up thereE_OMEGARAZOR

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Most of it is in space so we take the most

distant citrus
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moon yes not the goddess

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remember that moons and sisters are seperate entity
PO destroyed the two moons and threw the other far away but not the sisters associated with them

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sisters were still within the prison of nibelung

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they died eventually though

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all three were imprisoned murals depicts so

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nicole says so too

long crest
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outmogging everyone all day

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distant citrus
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"You say the moons ceased belonging to Teyvat from then on. Why, then, would Columbina be born here?"

"That is perhaps due to the lingering connection between the Frost Moon, which was not shattered, and this world. You could see it as the three sisters' dying wish."

distant citrus
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nope she only said her body began to shatter after the moon shattered nothing says she had to be on the moon
and when current info already says they were imprisoned i don't think there's any doubt remaining

long crest
distant citrus
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"Whether the goddesses managed to escape Nibelung's captivity after his fall, nobody knows."
this line is sufficient to say that they didn't left prison until Nibelung died and war was over and moons already destroyed

long crest
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i did not expect nicole to be cute af

distant citrus
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i'm not implying that's what nicole told us unless you don't consider nicole to be reliable i think we should take this info as it is

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yes we already know who that was iridescent
but the moon on the space were destroyed during the war not after
and during war the sisters were inside prison

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and only after nibelung died they had chance to flee again we know iridescent fled but we don't know about the other two

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it's implied that both iridiscent and eternal did something for frost moon before they all died since frost moon being not shattered meant she could reincarnate

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it's not the whole shattered moon but part of it that fell in khanerriah

long crest
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nicole science experiment is so FUN

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genuinely this quest is great

distant citrus
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i would't say that since we know PO destroyed two moons - eternal and iridescent

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ah yes then that would be true yes

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all 3 actually since PO made the new system reject their authority

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and we know all 3 died eventually

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the only difference is that frost moon had chance to reincarnate since it's moon was not shattered

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yeah she had some remanent of consciousness i guess because of abyss

golden sluice
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yes

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the 1st part of the leak discredits tho

distant citrus
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but she still died moments later i wouldn't call it alive tbh C_TaoHehe

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it's like dying last breath was preserved by abyss

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durin is interesting cause what do you mean he uses abyss to increase his power when everyone else gets fucked by it C_TaoHehe

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maybe we should send albedo to fix everyone else

long crest
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"AHEM"

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bro why is nicole the best character

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completely out of left field

distant citrus
long crest
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shes STRONG AF

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holy

outer kraken
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SHE'S SUCH AS DORK

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SHE PLANNED AN INTRO SPEACH

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BUT ALICE FUCKED IT

distant citrus
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ye it's all about constitution durin's constituton makes him use abyss to his own benefit
skirk also does that and traveler too can
too bad every other being on teyvat gets fucked

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Alice breaking 4th wall E_pepelol

long crest
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also yeah alice is something else...

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"oh the all-powerful ultra god might be after me? I dont care, i can say what i want"

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who ARE you woman

distant citrus
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although i disliked how certain fandom compared Alice to "her" because of said 4th wall break A_HuPensive

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please don't do that we don't want shaoji here

long crest
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it's so funny when they're in nasha town square

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and shes like "oh damn i really have to explain this wont i?"
and goes to sit down and there's randomly a chair for her to sit on 😭

distant citrus
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one who's name can't be taken after latest hsr quest A_WheezeTao

long crest
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it wasnt there half a second ago but now it's there

distant citrus
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no abyss only got in teyvat after nibelung

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PO can be dual natured in a way that traveler is where they don't get harmed by abyss but can use it for their own purpose

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but i don't think they use abyss as abyss monsters or something

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PO being in dark swamp can ve because he doesn;t get affected by it like traveler i feel

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they are descender still

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but pure abyss i don't think they have a part in it

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i doubt it pure means repel other side
if anything they have different constitution same as travler where they can use both

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thing is PO already went to war with 7 soverign and there was still 2k years after that war when nibelung arrived with abyss
if they were of abyss nature where was the abyys before?
why did they use light realm energy for their plan?
why abyss only surfaced in teyvat after nibelung?

long crest
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dude

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i have not seen arle give ANYONE that look...

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arle mains watch out

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varka out here to steal yo girl

distant citrus
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he didn't destroy teyvat abyss did

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he underestimated abyss and was corrupted by it

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he thought he could use the abyss powers against PO and here is another thing why use abyss powers against PO if they are abyss natured?

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something doesn't make sense here or is missing

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i wouldn't take the murals color seriously....if anything later depiction of nibelung being black was later addition to exxagerate the abyss

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maybe it's difference in art style too

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i meant to show him being corrupted

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when he arrived they didn't know he was corrupted i feel they though he was using abyss

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it's only later when he fell and abyss swept teyvat they realised abyss is the controller here

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maybe that's when they started using black paint

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i mean that's one explaination game doesn't tell anything else

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maybe find out all the murals of nibelung and see if he's black everywhere or not?

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actually you know what i just remembered
we already know light realm energy and void energy are counterparts right?

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and whoever overwhelms the others can absorb and use each other right? that's what rerir did

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so maybe in the beginning Nibelung was overpowering abyss

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and only later abyss started overpowering him

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that would explain why hes white in early murals

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it's only towards the end of war where he lost to abyss and became corrupted

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but you saide he entered teyvat after the corruption which shouldn't be possible since nibelung summoned all other soverign fot the war too

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war happened on teyvat too

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PO using nails is evidence

distant citrus
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"But when the king returned — now corrupted by the darkness — his fury knew no bounds.
And so, when the Master of Light and Flame answered his old master's call, waking from his long-feigned death. "

I interpret this as nibelung arriving on teyvat after all he called other sovereign too for the war

Also I think abyss only spread towards the end of war when nibelung couldn't control it and fell

long crest
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bro is outrizzing everyone

plain bison
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6.3 Mural

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And Boreas

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Look at the subreddit

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Not sure, it's just listed as a new mural as of yet

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But probably

distant citrus
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The wolf from weapon lore was indeed boreus then

somber dagger
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FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYO FUCK HOYOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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THIS IS THAT SHAOJI INFLUENCE

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I CAN SMELL IT

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AND ITS STANK

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STANK AS SHITTTT

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WORST STORY EVER

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|| ALL SHE WANTED WAS TO GO BACK HOME TO THE MOON ||

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does emilie do the honors

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im so mad at #him rn

tawdry blade
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Moon palace nice

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Imagine that leak of Traveler spaceship is in Moon Palace somehow remain trueE_pepelol

tawdry blade
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Cuz it is the good bb dottore

analog merlin
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Opinion: Do you think Zhongli would need a Hexerei buff or not? See, everyone wants a new weapon for Zhongli that changes his mechanics a bit, like if the wielder can cast a shield like Zhongli, all party members gain an ATK and DEF boost that increases the more their shield is hit. How do you guys think will they make it work?

tawdry blade
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He should be like venti

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Not just burst bot and shield

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He is quite special,they are easily pull shit out their ass and give him power of the moon

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Totally not reference to a leak

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Dam my autocorrect

analog merlin
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Hmm... Considering the fact Lunar Crystallize is gonna be a thing and Geo Crystals are only ever used as ammo for Navia's burst, I have a thought that it's more to boost his own damage when a shield is cast, and acts like a momentum bar that increases the more his shield gets hit.

tawdry blade
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If they make the lunar geo a construct then zhongli would be really good

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We will have to see till v5

tawdry blade
distant citrus
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@ashen ocean so apparently etherlite spindlelute lore is describing the same palace as drunken bard tales volume 3

I didn't read drunken bard tales but saw in leaks thread it's the same location A_CryLaughTao

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Had I read it before it would've made more sense to connect the dots that the wolf is boreus lol
Man 1.0 lore... E_pepelol

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Yeah true

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"Legend tells of a lone wolf that roamed a barren wasteland far, far away...
This wasteland is said to be a land beyond the dominion of deities, inhabited only by the grotesque ghostly remains of fallen gods, where the former palaces of the Seelie now stand empty. So when the solitary old wolf passed by a gray palace and heard the sound of music coming from within, it caught its attention...
Finally, he came to an inner room, where he saw a fair maiden strumming at her instrument.
Her skin was ashen white and her head was bowed down, her slender fingers gently stroking the fragile strings of the lute as she played a long-forgotten and mournful melody....
"The last singers, the first Seelie, they played their final tune in the hall of angels."...
"What is this song that you play?"
The wolf asked...
"A song of the Seelie,"
Replied the pale young maiden in a soft voice.
"Long, long ago, we wrote this song for the human savages. Yet now, we sing it to mourn our own fate."

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There's more but I'm not pasting whole it's too long and not much relevant anyway

Also this one line is exactly the same as etherlite weapon lore
"The last singers, the first Seelie, they played their final tune in the hall of angels."

plain bison
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Yess

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"Beyond the ruins of the ancient palace and on the edge of the wasteland stands the tranquil sacred forest of Lake Amsvartnir.
Legend has it that whoever breaks the golden branch in the forest will find the royal court of the Seelie, which is concealed from mortal eyes during the day.
A kingdom of the past, it lies forgotten by both time and space, hidden in shadow where no heavenly light can touch it.
Its owner has long departed, leaving behind nothing but a neglected courtyard and a hall stripped bare.
Yet, within the palace that should have been abandoned, a young woman's silent lament echoes across its walls."

" "Once upon a time, the titan craftsman of the skies once wove the destinies of all living beings, the golden harp their instrument of fate."
"That was the divine plan of the heavens. If it were followed, the entire world would usher happiness in."
"Yet even the ignorant can dream, and in her dream, a new future revealed itself."
"She saw men raise a tower to the heavens, and from its heights, the tower's apostle waging war against the sky..."

"She saw roaring beasts, each larger than a mountain, breaking free from the bonds of the earth..."
"She saw three moons casting their light upon the sea, a sight soon eclipsed by an ancient dragon rising like a tide."
"All that vanished the moment she awoke, as if it had never happened."
"All that remained was the indescribable glance from those star-like eyes."
"Was that love? Perhaps it was just delusion woven from hope, ambition, and a longing for death."

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"But that matters not now, for their story has ended, and it became Elysium's finale."
"The chirping of insects on a long-gone autumn night is the chorus of exiles, singing mankind's most ancient song as they live out their plight..."
"They had lost the place of their bodies and souls, with nothing left but songs and memories of the homeland they once knew."
The last singers, the first Seelie, they played their final tune in the hall of angels.
The wolf who once broke into this place had long since departed. Only unfulfilled dreams remain, and continue to chase phantoms."

slender haven
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Yeah, Varka is definitely going to get some crazy lore soon

slender haven
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What does it say

golden sluice
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the ones leaked yesterday?

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oh we already read them didn't we

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too bad I thought it was something new

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I need

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I need to find somrone

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who took screenshotd

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of Dottore

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in the quest

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I was locked in I deadass forgot

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that too

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bro

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why did his animations not get leaked yet

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bruh

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what about

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the chess boss

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a flashback I assume

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yea but shouldn't she be dead already

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a flashback

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or something like Aila in the quest

distant citrus
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Probably will see backstory of her killing mad monk
And then we're gonna fight the revived monk C_TaoHehe

slender haven
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Guys I got a new Capitano revival theory

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Ok so in the latest quests Scaramouche talks about how he was made and how Raiden used ley line/Irminsul branches to make his body (and by extension the Raiden puppet) and he mentions that this puppet making technique came from Khaenri'ah and she just took it.
Ley lines, Khaenri'ah, you know where I'm going with this?
So essentially I think Cap and Yohual could just make himself a new "puppet" body out of the ley lines they control and for his spirit to inhabit. Scaramouche was also made to contain a special "heart" so that ties into Cap's own special heart that he could transfer over to his new body.
As for the deal Yohual has with the Abyss Order maybe they want them to give them the full knowledge on how to recreate these puppets? Or they need them to get a second magic heart for the new body assuming they can't just rip the old one out of his chest.

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It would also be a parallel to Jesus returning from death in a perfected body

distant citrus
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@ashen ocean who do you reckon boar princess was/is?
She's the one who brought boreus into Mondstadt according to the lore book...

golden sluice
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who's sculpting

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those wings

golden sluice
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how do u get this out of the cutscene

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did they say he actually created a false moon?

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I thought they said

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he created a false moon

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in the memories

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of those dead people

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like implanted a wrong memory

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instead of making an actual moon

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hmmm

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idts tbh

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it's just symbolic

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there was nothing about an actual physical 4th moon

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yes but isn't it just Nod Krai?

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it's a failed moon no?

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and making Dottore create the 4th moon is not something they would do

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I doubt it tbh

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but we'll see

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even in the leaks

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there's no 4th moon

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in the boss arena there's only the frostmoon

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no?

tawdry blade
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A_WheezeTao ,PO really love womens huh

slender haven
# tawdry blade <:A_WheezeTao:793919527208484924> ,PO really love womens huh

Male controlled government exists on the planet and is kind and fruitful
Male king leaves three women in charge of the planet
They immediately sell out their subjects the literal second they encounter any adversity
Subsequent new government on planet is primarily female and is also cruel and repressive, destroying entire civilizations for merely existing

What did Hoyoverse mean by this?

gentle oyster
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hey does finishing the archon quest lock me out of the nod krai glider selenic chronicles stuff

tawdry blade
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Doesn't matter if you wait until it reset

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You can't do act 3

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So if you already got the name card,go for the quest

somber dagger
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uh uh why he think he a baddie

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genshin impact if it was in atlanta

tawdry blade
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Tsarista have 6 gnosis which is from a Descender,far stronger than the moon,but we dont know what she know and what she can do. If Dottore had a chance he would've stole them from her for experiment

tawdry blade
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This look exciting

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Time capsule

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Hm

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I assume that js where we meet Aila sister

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Cuz she should not be alive right?.

distant citrus
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Boar princess is well princess based in Mondstadt
So it has to be someone from Mondstadt...

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If PO can tame the 3 moons
Then another descender can too
Just wait for traveler power up C_TaoHehe

distant citrus
# golden sluice like implanted a wrong memory

You're correct here he implanted those false memories on those dead souls that's why they were behaving differently
Nicole even observed before how events are a bit different from what she remembered
That was the hint which Alice later confirmed to be true

tawdry blade
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Knowing traveler,we would obviously gave it to Columbina so she wont fade away anytime soon,or gave it to Columbina in the fight itself

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🫩

distant citrus
tawdry blade
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Well,2 moonsC_TaoHehe

distant citrus
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Ye but for short time he did get all 3 and next update he'll get them again somehow

tawdry blade
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Apparently the third moon he has in 6.3 is fake A_ThinkTao

distant citrus
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Ah that's how you know he'll get defeated C_TaoHehe

tawdry blade
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If he have 3 moons the world would become unstable and genshin eos

slender haven
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Where does it mention Pohjola?

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And Asmoday prayer too

distant citrus
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That bloodstained knight lore...

slender haven
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We don't

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And where is that?

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Also
Favonius Keep - Varka
Witch's Garden - Nicole/maybe Alice
Cliffside Camp - ????? (Illuga?)

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No it wasn't

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If it was there wouldn't even be a "missing" section of it

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Proof?

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It just says missing not erased

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We're getting the Asmoday prayer next version

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You come up with things in your head with 0 explanation and then stick with them with 0 explanation

distant citrus
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Only istaroth and asmoday were changed/cleared
Nibelung was noted by ernhrooth to have had older prayer just lost

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Irminsul was involved she wouldn't have remembered much

slender haven
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And Asmoday just had a completely missing prayer lost to history
Otherwise there wouldn't even be missing text there it would just be empty

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No

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It wasn't

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She just left the Shades
The book still had her in there

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That's why her picture shows up

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The old lady was just a construct made by Asmoday

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And killed by Ronova

distant citrus
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"Note from the Priestess Ehrnrooth: This is an ancient form of the prayer once used to quell the fury of nature. Though records whisper of a lost variant, its final four lines meant to summon, rather than quell, natural disasters.. "

It mention the records talking about missing prayer irminsul can't be involved here...

slender haven
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We're getting Asmoday's prayer next version

slender haven
distant citrus
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Otherwise record wouldn't exist

slender haven
distant citrus
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Point is if record exist and Ehrnrooth knows about it then no irminsul is not involved
Because last I checked she isn't anyone important just random npc

slender haven
distant citrus
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Also record is maintained by previous frostmoon scions

slender haven
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She might have something to do with Zhongli since he holds a cube in his statue

distant citrus
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They have library too

slender haven
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Maybe
Asmoday was always weird even before she betrayed Phanes

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She has sometimes hidden up her sleeve

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I think she just had them redacted the old fashioned way no Irminsul required

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Otherwise there wouldn't be any records

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Only the Scions had it and they're a pretty tiny group

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So it wouldn't be hard

distant citrus
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You're looking for a stone that not there C_TaoHehe
The only redacted is asmoday amd istaroth is wierd since it mention future events (this anomaly is also noted by Ehrnrooth)

slender haven
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I wonder why Nibelung's prayer was changed though
Did something happen to change their perception of him?

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Idk

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Maybe we'll get a prayer about Pakkaisukko too
Find out if he's Chernobog or Belobog or not

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Oh a prayer about the upcoming Snow Maiden lady too
Since she's becoming playable soon apparently

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Would be cool

distant citrus
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The current prayer is used to quell the natural disasters
While previous one was for summoning one
That's the discrepancy here

You can speculate that prayer was for quelling the disaster aka abyss
But in reality it was actually used to summon abyss

slender haven
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Personally I think the Black Sun of Khaenri'ah is Nibelung's ghost/resurrection

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Probably just Shades's power

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A being like the sun not literally the sun but yes I agree

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I wonder if the last 4 lines will even give us any info or not
Hopefully they do

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The Abyss is just like that though
His body was the breeding ground for the Abyss in Teyvat though

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Like cordyceps or something

distant citrus
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That Black sun/eclipse could be the demiurge you were talking about

According to Barbie the 7 planets(including the sun) represent the 7 archon
And there is also "extra" celestial body which can be one,two or more
In our case it's one and that's the eclipse

slender haven
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Yes

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The dialogue mentions the Lord of Night commanding the Moons
The NK definitely has a link to the Moons too

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Read the Moon arcana
It calls them the Lord of Night

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So Ronova and Yohual used Moon powers to make it

distant citrus
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Most probably yes not literal sun but just representation

slender haven
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There's the Eternal Moon's corpse above Natlan
They could have used it to make the NK

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I know
That too

distant citrus
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"O Syrup Mother, o Phlogiston Father! Let us meld together like sweet honey, and burn like flames...
...The Lord of the Crossroads raises their baton, and onward floats the boat of the golden moon...
The smoldering treasures lie at the crossroads, beneath the silver moon...
The scalding treasures lie beneath the light of the false moon..."

So I do understand the last one which is nod krai and the treasure might be sampo mill?

But what are others? C_TaoHehe

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Lord of the crossroads is Lord of night yes?

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Huh wiki says they're Lord of night...

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This syrup mother and phlogiaton father is that reference to first angel and voyager?

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They're talking about moon so i assume it's first angel and voyager they fit the bill better

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"Farewell, child of the stars! Should we not meet again in this nation... I shall await you in another..."

And then this... Who's this? Voyager? 3rd descender? Traveler?

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Child of star... It's always a descender but which one..

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Probably traveler

gray raven
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which leaks are allowed here?

slender haven
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They didn't

slender haven
slender haven
distant citrus
slender haven
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Phlogiston comes from it

distant citrus
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They're different

slender haven
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It can be no one else

distant citrus
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Where is it stated?

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He's called flamelord

slender haven
distant citrus
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He used the energy he wasn't born of said energy... There's difference
Other dragons also used said energy

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Plogiston is energy that can store information

slender haven
distant citrus
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Primal fire is primordial like how primordial sea is

slender haven
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Because he was a phlogiston being

distant citrus
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He wasn't

slender haven
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He was lol

distant citrus
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His brother turned into one later but that's different

slender haven
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Then who else is the phlogiston father lol

slender haven
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They literally bathed in phlogiston to get memories

distant citrus
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Where is that stated though?

slender haven
distant citrus
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The dragons who wanted to live and who followed kukulkan not pyro sovereign

slender haven
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The Primal Flame and Phlogiston are linked

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distant citrus
slender haven
golden sluice
distant citrus
slender haven
distant citrus
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He used it to build those ai sovereign

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And other things

slender haven
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When he was corrupted by the Abyss he tested out Phlogiston devices on his corrupted body

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He also had pools of memory phlogiston
To gain memories

distant citrus
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Hmm then I guess he is the phlogiston father
Can you share the source where it's written though? Wanna read that

slender haven
distant citrus
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Pyro sovereign using phlogiston on himself

slender haven
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Sure

distant citrus
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Wait is it the eye?

slender haven
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Still controls phlogiston though

slender haven
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Here

distant citrus
# slender haven

It says he used his body to attach the astral asemblages for countermeasures purposes to help identify the threat
And I guess it makes sense we see his corpse in that domain

But this is still different from what kukulkan did along with other dragons where they fully became the phlogiston being

slender haven
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And was the father of it

distant citrus
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Yeah true

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Although primal fire is still different from phlogiston

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Kukulkan transcended from one state to another after all

slender haven
slender haven
distant citrus
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Nah pretty sure it's different
It's like saying light is derived from fire
Both are different states

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One is primordial element other is source of energy

slender haven
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It can work however it wants

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We never get to see the Primal Fire either so it could have looked like lava instead of normal fire

distant citrus
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Phlogiston stores the real world data
It's like how we use light to transfer irl data
Ita different from fire you don't store any data on fire it's just physical phenomenon

slender haven
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Also Kukulkan says that wisdom was transferred from the Primal Flame into Little One

distant citrus
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That's biological though like genes

slender haven
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Still some info got transferred

distant citrus
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Not artificial data which phlogiston is
Phlogiston makes the copy primal fire is the og
If it makes sense

slender haven
distant citrus
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One is biological being other is data made up of energy

slender haven
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Sure ig

distant citrus
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I guess since it's too advanced where it can store consciousness too I guess it can blur the lines but still
It's like cyperbunk Johnny og died but digital one is alive
At that point it'd be philosophical difference I guess C_TaoHehe

slender haven
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Yeah sure ig lol

gray raven
golden sluice
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can u verify this

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I mean yeah

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everyone got something different

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my friend got a duck

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idk 😭

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ig so

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is there

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a chinese person here

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who can verify it

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when he plays the quest

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oof

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I hope we remember

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he wants to do his goals and be accepted for them yeah

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there's a reason he made those phantoms praise him and call him a hero

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weird

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I thought he's persian

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tf

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like at all?

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not even a bit?

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surely there's some of it

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why do you think it's indian

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that's weird af

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I'm pretty certain he's grateful to the Tsaritsa and Pierro for accepting him

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🤔

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my goat's indian 💔

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yeah

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but I always thought of Dottore as more persian inspired

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also

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Zandik is an arabic word

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not sure if it exists in the persian language tho

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yeah

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they have the same origins iirc

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Sumeru's a mess of influences bruh

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they got stuff from western africa to south eastern asia

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🥀

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he is

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yeah

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I was about to say it

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idk if it's a coincidence or not

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but Il Dottore and Zandar are similar

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Zandar even has the whole clones thing

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he wants to not be bound by gods too

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that's why Zandar's my fav in hsr

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🥀

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yes

tawdry blade
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With effe t?

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Or not yet

golden sluice
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not yet

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I think

tawdry blade
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Ah

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Well he look funny

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Especially when stunned

golden sluice
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yeah

tawdry blade
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Bro praise his hand to beg for forgiveness

golden sluice
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and starts attacking again right after

tawdry blade
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What a trickster

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It is the same some boss counter mechanic when stunned

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Wait no

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Nvm

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It is when they are blocking

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Although him praising his hand is probably to create a shield

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@ashen ocean is his ost out

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Aside from AQ one

golden sluice
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he's our cutesy queen

golden sluice
tawdry blade
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So no fatui motif then?

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I see

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I know about it but can't check myself with slow internet

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At least I am going home now

golden sluice
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I find it hard to believe ngl

tawdry blade
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No

golden sluice
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even Scaramouche had a Fatui

tawdry blade
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Weekly leave

golden sluice
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motif

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nahhhh

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it's just weird

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Scaramouche had a Fatui motif

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🥀

tawdry blade
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Ye

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I still need to listen to it to judge

gray raven
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it indeed is

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i think there will be another phase 2 track

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for when you do the boss normally

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phase 2 sounds AQ exclusive

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so I think there will be another one

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it just hasn't been added yet

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it's clear there's more music to be added

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40 tracks is not enough for the new area as a whole

golden sluice
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Il Dottore having less phases' osts than Scaramouche and Arlecchino is 💔

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this is why I hate the AQ exclusive boss osts

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fuck happened

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traitor

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also I'm thinking

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it's either Scaramouche raging

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or traveler

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6.3 can't come any sooner

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zamn

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technically she did first

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by giving information

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to outsiders

tawdry blade
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Heard there is two dottore in next aq...

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Could be that segment

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Make sense cuz one of them sweared to revenge

golden sluice
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if he's dying it's probably in a cutscene

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do you blame them

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🥀

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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I wonder what that

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Dottorekil

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button does

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clueless

tawdry blade
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Emilie, where are you Emilie

golden sluice
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who's Emilie

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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never saw her before 🤔

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(dedicated Emilie main since her release)

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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I liked that joke until someone made that edit of her holding his head

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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they replied it to someone being happy about Dottore appearing

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it's so uncalled for

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and it's the same thing that got posted in FatuiHQ

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the beheaded Columbina

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why

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they're both fictional characters

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and why would you post that in someone's space who is clearly a fan of Dottore

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it's double standards to me, making such an edit of any character is unhinged no matter who

tawdry blade
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Not really,I saw Nahida edit back then of well.. her head is..

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Yeah

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It was unhinged

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Especially when we know her very well

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But for Dottore the reason why it is less unhinged is he is not loved by many and he is evil

golden sluice
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that's still double standards

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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you can hate him without making such an edit

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especially not in someone's space who's a fan of him

tawdry blade
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That's fair but it is more unhinged to do it most other innocent character

golden sluice
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maybe, still, making such edits of any character is unhinged

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Dottore fans are still part of the community and you can hate on him without making them uncomfortable

distant citrus
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What mentally ill community do you guys frequent...C_TaoHehe

golden sluice
distant citrus
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...Yeah well...that's on you guys C_TaoHehe

golden sluice
tawdry blade
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I rarely go to FatuiHQ

golden sluice
gray raven
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i don't think dottore knows who emillie is

golden sluice
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lightkeepers again 🥀

gray raven
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wdym again

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we're getting piramida so ofc

golden sluice
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we got it once already

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what other factions left anyways

gray raven
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we haven't got piramida before

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only the final night cemetery

golden sluice
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yea but they're both lightkeepers

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im talking about the ones announced before NK release

distant citrus
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Pohjola wasn't gonna come anyway before 3rd descender lore
Which isn't gonna happen until sheznaya

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Probably build up to it

golden sluice
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what's Pohjola again

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@ashen ocean bruv

Screenshot_20251205_145538_Telegram.jpg
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anything else about it?

slender haven
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That's what I thought

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Lol

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Also wonder if Illuga is the only character there in his spot
His dad could be there too maybe

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Since he's the leader of the Lightkeepers

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Yeah Illuga's dad is the leader of the Lightkeepers

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His name is Nikita

golden sluice
slender haven
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Yes

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Also some leaked dialogue from the Favonius meeting spot

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They're power scaling lol

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Also a repeat that Varka and Cap are on the same level
Seriously wtf is Varka's deal

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Plus with all the Andrius lore and the BSK also being a wolf too

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Here's a mural of Andrius and Koitar

image0.jpg
golden sluice
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bro check the post I sent 💔

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we did?

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tf

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isn't this new info

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this give a lot of hope to Dottore surviving no?

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if it's true

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yeah

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but the post

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apparently got his hands

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on a textmap

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or something similar

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it gives details on how Columbina survives and why's Dottore doing what he's doing

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nahhh

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he said it's not the achievement

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look he said Columbina is getting saved by the 3 moons and Dottore knows he's losing and doing it all to distract the HP

gray raven
golden sluice
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yes

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shafe 8t

golden sluice
gray raven
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i've seen it on multiple telegram channels

golden sluice
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how did I see none 💔 💔 💔

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ACFUALLY WAIT

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I THINK THE POST IS NOT LYING

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I SAW ONE TELEGRAM POST THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW THEY DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO DOTTORE

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the post said the same thing

gray raven
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they could've made it up

golden sluice
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can you share the textmap

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yes

tawdry blade
golden sluice
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the textmap is already leaked apparently

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and I saw a screenshot that said similar things to the post

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Skirk's sq sounded made up back then too

gray raven
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check telegram

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i think genshin leakflow has it

tawdry blade
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The difference is that Skirk SQ leak was proper

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This one sound like the dude is trying hard to not glaze Dottore

golden sluice
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nvm it doesn't

tawdry blade
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Dude know it is illegal and still post it

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Yeah sure buddy

golden sluice
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I mean

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all beta leaks are illegal no?

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btw he's replying to my comments

tawdry blade
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Ye except the leaker who leak it is anonymous

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They dont use reddit

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Or post with their actual account

gray raven
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hmm

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brb

tawdry blade
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They used telegram because I have seen a lot of actually illegal thing

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I wont elaborate further because it could get me a warning but it is Club penguin that my friend was in

golden sluice
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I did say I doubt its validity in the comments

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but he posted it around the same time the textmap got leaked and like I said I saw one screenshot