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slender haven
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PO after they fought Nibelung I guess

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I think she helped make Saarelainen tbh

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Or Hyperborea in general made him

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Cursed her seemingly

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He is the "perfect being to merge with the world"

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Probably

golden sluice
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@ashen ocean btw

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do u remember pre Fontaine

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when it was leaked the hydro archon

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has

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gravity

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powers

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?

slender haven
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Well PO might be artificial too
Since the Wings of Feasting call them an AI

golden sluice
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what the hell I gotta check it

slender haven
golden sluice
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im thinking it might've been true and they changed plans

slender haven
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They're described as having "functions"

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The city of Tollan technically had a "false sky"

distant citrus
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Voyager travels through spaceship where their body is stored I don't think they're related to Fuli at all since voyager entirely exist in present unlike Fuli that exist in future

slender haven
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But it seems a little different from the full False Sky

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I know I was just saying

golden sluice
slender haven
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That the Dragons had sky tech

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I doubt it cause they understand the Traveler's physiology pretty well

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Hm interesting

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But the Moons governed fate and the skies so they could have had a part in it

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Yeah

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Well the Shades look pretty humanoid

distant citrus
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Not really... Unless you want to connect genshin with honkai lore in which case...
I guess you can say they're one of the memokeepers
Memokeeper are those who collect memories while traveling different worlds they record everything from birth to death of cosmos
They also worship Fuli

golden sluice
slender haven
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Still they are fairly familiar with the Shades and gods so I think Phanes is just a robot

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Do they?

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Koitar says they're against love

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They could just be projecting emotions on them
Also AI can feel emotions too like Ineffa

golden sluice
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isn't Ineffa an AI? she feels those emotions too no?

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then Phanes can be the same thing

slender haven
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Still AI
Scaramouche is an AI too

golden sluice
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both AI with a conscious

slender haven
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Scaramouche could be a parallel to The HP

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Ineffa was whole on her own
She was just broken off from someone else
The other Dragonlords had emotions too

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Aino doesn't really need to do that though
Ineffa request it

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Not really

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Well they are artificial in some way

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That's what they're called in the Wings of Feasting

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Wings of Delicacies I mean

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"This deity was actually an artificial intelligence, created by the intelligent species of the planet to optimize resource allocation on a planetary level. The shopkeeper was right — there was still one thing she could do."

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Wings of Delicacies

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Yeah

distant citrus
slender haven
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Also I believe the og Chinese used more gender neutral language

distant citrus
distant citrus
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Another wrong en translation issue?

slender haven
slender haven
golden sluice
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oh that's an old leak

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yea nah I don't believe it

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I don't wanna believe it either

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at least not the final part

slender haven
golden sluice
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yeah I saw it a few months ago in Dottoremains or FatuiHQ i think

slender haven
# slender haven I'll have to check

Alright I checked the other translations and they use both male and female pronouns for the first customer
So I'm guessing it's supposed to be neutral

slender haven
golden sluice
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it kind of makes sense tho

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considering

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what he's don

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e

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in Nod Krai so far

slender haven
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E

golden sluice
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and the 6.2 stuff too

slender haven
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Idk I just don't think he's become a descender

golden sluice
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well yeah not necessarily to that extent

slender haven
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That doesn't sound plausible
Plus, we didn't have any leaks on 6.2 or 6.1 so why would we have leaks about 6.3

golden sluice
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all I'm saying is it makes sense considering what he did in 6.2

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but I'm hoping it's wrong

slender haven
golden sluice
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just because I don't want

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a Dottore that is not obsessed

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fuck no

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just so we'd get a clean Zandik that's not guilty?

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no no no that sucks

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A LOT

slender haven
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Not here though

golden sluice
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the obsession tormenting him is what makes him what he is

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a Dottore that is not obsessed

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is no Dottore at all

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it would be a very huge downgrade

slender haven
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This doesn't feel right

golden sluice
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sure as long as we get the og Dottore

slender haven
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I just think he wants power

golden sluice
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that too but I'm talking about

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the evil Dottore

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the og personality

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nooooooooo

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evil obsessed Dottore please

slender haven
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He'll fail though

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Capitano has taken control of the Ley lines so he will succeed

slender haven
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Yes Dottore will betray the Fatui

golden sluice
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I wouldn't say so yet tbh

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he's technically still following the palestar edict

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which is

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to capture Columbina

slender haven
golden sluice
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wdym he stole the electro gnosis

slender haven
golden sluice
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the second one is a huge assumption

slender haven
golden sluice
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I mean

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he still got it back in the end

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he just wanted to mess around with it first

slender haven
golden sluice
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if Scaramouche won the Fatui wouldn't be the only thing that's fucked

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at that point

slender haven
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Atp he would've controlled an entire country though
A war would need to be fought

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A bunch of people would have died

golden sluice
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anyways I still think it's early to judge and if he survives 6.3 he's definitely going back to the Fatui

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and personally I don't think he's surviving

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🥀

golden sluice
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I know he said he will make more back in Sumeru

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but we shouldn't assume

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he already made some

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off screen

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after all he said they need time

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and resources

slender haven
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It's his whole thing

golden sluice
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I know

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but I don't want to jump into assumptions

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because nothing about it has been mentioned yet

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  • I don't want to cope
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if he dies

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I don't want to become like Capitano mains last year

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or Signora mains

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since Inazuma

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if you had only said the first part I deadass would've believed it

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@ashen ocean does the textmap show the order at which the characters talked?

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like

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yea in the beta

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oh I see

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I'm holding hope maybe Dottore talked in the end

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nvm they only leak 1 act textmap

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unfortunate

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oh so the beta textmap only has how many lines each character has?

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unfortunate

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I hope someone leaks 6.3 story

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not

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that

slender haven
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The beta isn't even out yet be patient

golden sluice
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what if he dies

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I hate the traveler bro

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deadass who likes the traveler

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I don't see it honestly

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oh yea

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that happened

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any traveler slander

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is appreciated

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no no

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I saw it

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I just forgot about it

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I hope they die

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in the endo f genshin's story

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I hope to do it they have to use their bodies or something to makke the new world

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then I don't have to look at him bum ass everytime I do a quest

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I have to question your taste

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I hate the traveler fans bro 😭

slender haven
golden sluice
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deadass

slender haven
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Aether fans might not be human tbh

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Lumine fans? Not as bad though

golden sluice
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his sub is a snoozefest

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same

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such a thing exists?

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the travelermains sub is so full of aether fans that I thought it was exclusive to him

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aight give me a sec

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I uhhhhhhhhhhh

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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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well at least they're not the powerscaling harem shipper fans

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yea you enjoy that gng A_smolhutao

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I saw

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it's so funny

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tbf

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even as a straight guy

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I gotta admit

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Rerir's so hot

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and cool looking

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it was like love in first sight when I saw him

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I honestly prefer it over Aether's

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I'm biased and shit

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but god

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Rerir's intro is the best one in the game

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even over Dottore's

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bro didn't know his real job

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ikr

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I deadass

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didn't expect it

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to happen like that

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nope, but I saw the reactions in the genshin leak sub

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it was wild

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especially beacuse a lot of a lot people didn't expect one of the sinners to show up

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I saw someone posting a theory about it in the lore sub because of the moons stuff

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understandable honestly, if he becomes playable that design needs to be the playable model

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ohhhhhh

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I saw people talking about that

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how the fuck did he predict it

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when we knew nothing of Nod Krai yet

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peak

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but

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Rerir seems not that significant in the grand scheme of things

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yeah I guess so

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dude

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I hope it's something none of us can predict

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but tell me

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what is the popular theory about it?

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hmm

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well tell me

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each moon marrow leads to the same place?

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I'm thinking

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what if it's just

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a result of the gate of the Iridiscent moon being unstable due to the marrow being corrupted by the abyss

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purified by Khaenriahn researchers?

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I see

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Tholindis did too no?

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but then how did Rerir have bits of her in him

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and they were able to see her memory

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honestly I think the same thing happened to her and she got mixed with Rerir

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that wouldn't explain why he had entire memories of her inside him

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ig that explains it considering he mirrors Ronova

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I deadass didn't understand anything A_HuPensive

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oh yea

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it's Ronova's case

golden sluice
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I still think she didn't die literally

tawdry blade
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Damn where is dottore boss

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This level of glazing lmao,he only outsmart Hexenzirkel (which we dont even know if they were outsmarted/tricked or just pretended. The Shade barely have anything to do with the entire quest too.

slender haven
tawdry blade
slender haven
tawdry blade
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Would be weird to deal with lower tier Dottorr after the 3 Moon Dottore

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Though,if Nahida have voiceline in next chapter,he might do something with the Irminsul

slender haven
tawdry blade
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Not the entire world

slender haven
tawdry blade
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Also he merged with Lord Night so it makes her master of that leylineC_TaoHehe

slender haven
slender haven
tawdry blade
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Capitano sacrificed himself by merging his existence to the Lord of the Night in place of Mavuika's death, making use of the curse of immortality placed upon him and all Khaenri'ahns by Ronova to supply the Lord of the Night eternal life to repair Natlan's Ley Lines.

tawdry blade
slender haven
slender haven
tawdry blade
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In*

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Special heart

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God damn

slender haven
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Here it is

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Just read it for yourself

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Will probably be brought up again next Liyue event if I had to gues because spoilers
||Apparently The Celadon Mare gets revived from death||

tawdry blade
slender haven
slender haven
tawdry blade
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(Although Nahida have more authority and more knowledge ig)

slender haven
slender haven
tawdry blade
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And jump off

slender haven
tawdry blade
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Nahida still opened the gate to the heart though

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She is also an avatar

slender haven
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She can't control the ley lines directly

tawdry blade
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So while she can't read hidden or deleted info or alter rule,she can still do basic thing

slender haven
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She's like a moderator essentially

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While Cap right now is an admit

tawdry blade
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Assuming he is not fused with Lord Night ig

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Also where is that Stylian info from

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If anything, it would be sinner related

slender haven
tawdry blade
slender haven
# tawdry blade Also where is that Stylian info from

We explictly know it's about the ley lines stuff
It has a purple flower like the ones contained in the Night Kingdom
And it gives you the weapons of the Sinners despite Khaenri'ah's ley lines and memories being destroyed

slender haven
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Since he changed the rules of the ley lines

tawdry blade
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so yohual reconstruct the leyline in Natlan and capi change the rule basically then

slender haven
tawdry blade
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Yohual is still in control though

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Abyss Sibling asked for a space to weave Khaenriah leyline

slender haven
distant citrus
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Mona hex quest was funny A_WheezeTao

tawdry blade
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Genshin peak again

distant citrus
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Please say it's permanent and not for 5s

tawdry blade
distant citrus
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Peak

tawdry blade
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Her E only summon a gravitational hydro field

distant citrus
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Finally nod krai has actually good exploration unit

tawdry blade
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Well explore with her walking animation gonna feel ..something

distant citrus
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Depending on whether it consumes stamina like in case of lauma
It might actually be best ground exploration

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Hopefully it doesn't E_pepelol

tawdry blade
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I afraid she will use stamina for her sprinting like usualE_OMEGARAZOR

distant citrus
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Oh but the animation above did use sprint but otherwise it looks like normal walk animation

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Yeah they are using sprint besides the usual walk
It's good then

tawdry blade
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The first few seconds is normal walking

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Oh it is sprinting nvm

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Sprint then dash

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I did not see full video cuz 4g too weakA_GaspTao

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Nvm again,it is normal walking animation C_TaoHehe

distant citrus
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Yeah it's normal with few dashes

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I didn't see but this is from 6.2 lol

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Now to wait to see if it actually gets added to her kit

tawdry blade
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90%

distant citrus
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@ashen ocean Mr nine identity got revealed and it's not what theory made it out to be C_TaoHehe

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Nicole shared her story with one random seelie to write on her behalf and they're the Mr nine A_WheezeTao

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Do fischl hex quest there you'll see

analog merlin
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Dottore's boss portrait is literally a tracing of his Star Rail expy Lygus/Zandar. No allegations necessary, if we want a punchable face, he provides and then some.

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Yes.

fossil furnace
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😭 mother of titles

slender haven
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So what happened to Dottore at the end?
Did he also get moon gated?

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But he exploded at the end

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What happened

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He also says the Marrows were "restricting" him or something

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Can I get something off my chest btw?

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The boss art looks really badass and I want to be excited
But I'm pissed off because they clearlt fucking despised Capitano and wrote him off having done jack shit

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And now the neanderthals at FatuiHQ keep saying their brain dead takes that Dottore is better than Capitano and mocking Capitano fans calling them idiots

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It pisses me of ngl

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But I just have to be patient. Capitano will have the coolest return ever as the Lord of the Ley Lines and a descender level being and a god level kit
Right?

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I hate Mavuika so much man

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I just have to get that off my chest too

distant citrus
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Hyperborea being 6k years ago got confirmed which means PO came even before

slender haven
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why

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The 6.1 catalyst says that the Unified Civ lasted a couple thousand years

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Really?

distant citrus
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6k was arrival for PO before but it's even before probably by few centuries or more
Iirc Before sun and moon says it took 400 years for PO to transform teyvat
And the war with 7 sovereign happened even before for 40 years or so

slender haven
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So like at least 2k years

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So I guess PO arrived 8k years ago at least

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But 10k has a better ring to it no?

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Not really

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A dumpster is more magnificent since at least they serve a purpose

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How dare she stand where Goatku stands

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She's Goku and Chi-Chi's aborted mistake

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Only by attacking the friends in his heart lol

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Actually he wore it in his rib cage

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They're still bitching cause they know he'll die next version

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Yeah

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They Dottoremains2

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Mavuika nearly lost against with ice powers
A fire god
Ice powers

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So was he

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Also Mavuika used her full power at the end

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Still harmed the souls in his heart more than himself

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Read the Travel Log

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I don't want to read the quest description again

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Ki control
It was condensed

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Indeed

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Travel Log for their fight

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Did they ever have it?

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Bro want to be Capitano so bad

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Capitano doesn't need to split it

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He just had one long straight streak

distant citrus
slender haven
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Did you check?

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Fair

outer kraken
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Some scaling considering that all 3 moon marrows isn't enough to break the fake sky

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That means mav + ranova's blessing scales higher

slender haven
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I guess

outer kraken
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A weakened bina and the marrows aren't enough

distant citrus
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"There was a time in the distant past when it permeated all of Nod-Krai, causing immeasurable harm. The people paid a terrible price to heal this land.

Then, five hundred years ago, the whole of Teyvat suffered an Abyssal disaster. Once more, Nod-Krai was dealt a devastating blow."

Ok so i think we have confirmation for mad monk episode being different from khanerriah episode

@ashen ocean

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Yes but probably not by much maybe few years or so

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And I guess we'll get the mad monk episode in world quest only now

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Either way it's going to be good

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Hopefully 6.3 has it all both cognosenti and mad monk lore

tawdry blade
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That is why ronova blessing is above 3 moons

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Also is weekly boss here yet

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I just watched the cutscene

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Traveler with element is cool as shit,suck that hoyo did Traveler injustice in story quest cutscene

echo belfry
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is it true that completing the current aq wont let you do more selenic chronicles?

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@ashen ocean

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do u know

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like from the first page?

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or second

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im aware of ||columbina disappearing to the moon or whatever||

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but this is kinda important info to know if i wanna keep doing selenic chronicles

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wait is this for the third page?

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bruh

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we alr knew that

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😭😭

distant citrus
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So PO was the one who severed the moon goddesses connection with teyvat after funery war
Well Nibelung was blamed for no reason C_TaoHehe

distant citrus
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Albedo calling wanderer mr guy C_TaoHehe
Scara reluctantly calling himself the hat guy lmao

slender haven
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The daughters deserved it

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Probably

tawdry blade
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He used their body as weapon

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Still gdead

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Cuz po one shot their body

slender haven
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Good, just delete the fucking sub

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Would do everyone else a favor

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It isn't as satisfying when they keep punching themselves

tawdry blade
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What is the problem

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I can't with this weak internet...

slender haven
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Fair

tawdry blade
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Yeah,i alr expected Arlechinno cat ear reaction from some people when I saw preload leak

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Idk about sandrone

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Dottore not being loyal is not even a surprise given he is just there so he can experiment

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He does look like that guy

slender haven
distant citrus
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Raiden using khanerriah tech to build scara got confirmed
So the theory got proven right

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And he was built using branch of irminsul

slender haven
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I guess she could have just used ley line branches

distant citrus
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Mona hex quest also confirmed the nature of apaosha
Apparently there are lakes within khanerriah that can reflect the space outside the false sky hence the sign of truth

slender haven
distant citrus
distant citrus
slender haven
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Probably just got ley line branches

distant citrus
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Yeah that too leylines are the branches

slender haven
slender haven
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Red moon I guess

tawdry blade
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Why is it Khaenriah W when it is Raiden who used the branchC_TaoHehe

slender haven
tawdry blade
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Oh

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Did not know that side of her

slender haven
outer kraken
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So fucking he did a reverse magnet

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So basically he tampared with the past so everyone thought that the gate method was the only way reviving rerir to double down how strong the 3 moons are just so he was in the perfect sniping position

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Next patch is so going to be the everyone is crashing out patch

analog merlin
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It might also relate to the burning of Irminsul hinted all the way back in the reveal trailer of all the Harbingers. Burning Irminsul will prevent any more changes in history as one last fuck you to the World and those wanting to heal it, like the Traveler, Nahida, and the Wanderer.

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For once, we don't know where exactly Irminsul is right now, except perhaps the Sanctuary of Surasthana. But it's still symbolic of Dottore preventing any more changes in history, as if there is no Irminsul, no one can change things any more.

outer kraken
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ye cause burning irminsul means he also get reduced to nothing

tawdry blade
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Is beta here yet

analog merlin
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In two hours tops, I think.

outer kraken
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I think beta out

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No one processed the data

tawdry blade
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30 mins

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They are probably encrypting some stuff

outer kraken
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Or maybe it's a lore accurate beta

tawdry blade
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Full moon?

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Well..

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The moon is bright here

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Look like a full moon

outer kraken
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I meant about bina being gone

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too soon

tawdry blade
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Hm

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How would that even work

outer kraken
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it’s a joke

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but still

tawdry blade
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I know but A_HuBlankie

outer kraken
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But still

analog merlin
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Crushed so hard with a God Finger he turned into whatever's left of his outfit. Seriously, you get his belt as material of all things.

slender haven
golden sluice
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yeah I saw

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🥀

slender haven
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So he's the Welkin Moon lol

golden sluice
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he's so cooked isn't he

slender haven
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Yep

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I hope he betrays the Fatui beforehand though so that nobody likes him

golden sluice
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tf

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fuck no

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no one likes him as is, no need to get excessive

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aren't you a Fatui fan why do you dislike him

slender haven
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I'm just bitter ig

golden sluice
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A mask recovered from the heretical testing grounds after defeating the False God of the Moon.
Medicine is meant to cure the ailments of the flesh, yet worldly healers turn a blind eye to the true cause of death. In the hands of a wise doctor, the frail human body is no longer bound by birth, age, sickness, or death, and may even display power beyond any common sense.

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A binding recovered from the heretical testing grounds after defeating the False God of the Moon.
Humanity defines civilization by casting out madness, yet believing that all things—whether they exist or not—can be contained within reason may be nothing more than another form of insanity. The madman sees through reason's deceit, and in his world, everything is permitted.

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A vial recovered from the heretical testing grounds after defeating the False God of the Moon.
For centuries, so-called researchers have crawled at the feet of the six cardinal sins, and their self-deceiving studies amount only to circular arguments and empty words. The pursuit of truth should never be bound by any restriction. In that case, perhaps those branded heretics and villains are the only true knowledge seekers.

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what is it

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yea you were right

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Rerir is back

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that's a lot of Dottore appearances tho

slender haven
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Roland lore?
Tf

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I guess yeah

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The Akademiya rules

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They're in Cyno's lore

distant citrus
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Those murals that leaked last patch?
Well I was right it was indeed describing the war and destruction of moon sister

Nibelung imprisoned them and turned moons into weapons
PO not knowing whether the moon sister were imprisoned thought they betrayed him and in turn destroyed the two moons and threw past one beyond the sky

Again Nibelung didn't do the killing it was again PO C_TaoHehe

golden sluice
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the akademiya

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rules

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iirc

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yeah

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he's back

distant citrus
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No

golden sluice
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well I hope Dottore's not dead too

distant citrus
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Yes according to murals it is white maybe they forgot? C_TaoHehe

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Because he did bring abyss with him

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Or maybe black is later addition

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It could also be that mural is quite old like from hyperborea time so color got eroded? C_TaoHehe

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Nvm gold color is still there so wouldn't make sense

echo belfry
distant citrus
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Eh probably black color was added later to signify abyss since in early days abyss was new and they didn't know much I guess

golden sluice
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he looks so cool

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yeah his design screams Irminsul

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fitting

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why is bro posing like that

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OH

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OH

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DUDE

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no way he destroys the false sky right

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no way

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why would they put it

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but

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isn't that a death sentence

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to teyvat?

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the abyss can get in freely now

zinc pagoda
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That tieba leak was true afterall

golden sluice
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which leak

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?

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oh

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yeah ig

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I hope the segment part is wrong tho

zinc pagoda
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Yeah

golden sluice
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I will genuinely off myself bro please

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please don't 🥹

tawdry blade
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It gonna be another Natlan moment

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This time the real moon will forever represent in NodKrai tho

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Elaborate ?

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Oo

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All this and the Shade still watchE_pepelol

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Ig they already know Traveler gonna clear for them,like how they hired the Hexenzirkel to do their jobE_OMEGARAZOR

tawdry blade
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Natlan sky was destroyed but fixed up very quick

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Also it is obviously just for aura

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Like Narwhal background is broken sky

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But that "sky" fixed immediately

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So we are fighting in the sky

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The scenery is insane

golden sluice
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which is why I think it won't happen

golden sluice
tawdry blade
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Any major event that change every region wont happen

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Irminsul fully destroyed

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Fake sky fully destroyed

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Will never happen since it will affect all region environment and scenery

tawdry blade
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His mech?

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Air ship?

golden sluice
#

I think just a construct he made

tawdry blade
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Well yeah

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Could be airship

golden sluice
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don't think so

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it's obviously being held by a giant arm

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he made a giant arm holding the arena

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or smthn like that

tawdry blade
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6.3 could not come sooner man...

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Do u know what structure is behind the sun

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Well not exactly but

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That look like a mountain?

slender haven
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Bro FatuiHQ literally posted an edit of Columbina's head on a stick lmao
I couldn't make this up even if I wanted the sub to look bad

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Yep

golden sluice
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it's downvoted to hell man

slender haven
golden sluice
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and everyone is calling him out in the comments

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they're donwvoted too

slender haven
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But the sub is really boiling over ngl
Might have to get locked down for a little bit

golden sluice
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eh it's fine, people are just frustrated over writing decisions of the Fatui and it's understandable tbh

golden sluice
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most ppl there are fine tbh, you just mostly see controversial posts because that's the kind of posts that get the most traction

golden sluice
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Dottore's dying next patch

slender haven
stone anchor
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did egeria get cursed because creating life is Forbidden Knowledge?

slender haven
stone anchor
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or am i overthinking things?

golden sluice
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Dottore tho

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at best

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an "innocent" segment

slender haven
golden sluice
#

tbf

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the Natlan quests

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did him NO justice

slender haven
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Sucked

golden sluice
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yes

slender haven
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Fuck Mavuika

golden sluice
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and they did him no justice

golden sluice
stone anchor
# slender haven No

oh right, it wasnt because she created oceanids but because she made them look like humans
which
celestia took offense with because ???

golden sluice
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deadass the only archon I didn't pull for even tho I wanted a pyro off fielder

slender haven
golden sluice
stone anchor
slender haven
stone anchor
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like
legitimately why do people hate Capitano's treatment in the natlan AQ

slender haven
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I welcome it though if it makes his design cooler
And if he keeps the mask

slender haven
stone anchor
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I'd hate him coming back more tbh
let the dude enjoy his retirement in the afterlife

slender haven
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It's in the lore

stone anchor
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i know :(

slender haven
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Or whatever

stone anchor
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i mean ill probably still pull for the guy

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but still

golden sluice
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mostly the Capitano mains ruined FatuiHQ at that point, I remember telling the mods to ban them or do something but the mods are hella inactive

stone anchor
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speaking of Rerir
it's kinda interesting how his backstory mirror's the Tsaritsa(?)'s

golden sluice
#

ong

slender haven
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Cap mains are chill now though

slender haven
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Not really
They just stick to themselves

stone anchor
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well
assuming the Tsaritra/Third Descender theories are real
(they arent becuase the CN fandom would complain, but i like the theory so)

slender haven
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I don't see them interact much
I think they did a thing with Rerir mains lol

golden sluice
#

where's the Lightkeepers city 🥀

slender haven
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  1. Hundred. Teleport spots
stone anchor
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also
whats with the theories i keep seeing about Childe being the third descender?

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because i have not seen any non-incredibly-flimsy reasoning for that yet

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wait, he does?
Is Childe named Saareleinen or is Saareleinen named Ajax/Childe/Tartaglia?

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wait where is Saarelainen refered to as Ajax?

slender haven
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They're talked about in similar manners

stone anchor
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fair
i just like the theory because of how it explains why the Tsaritsa is collecting Gnoses like they're chaos emeralds, and why the other archons are so easily willing to hand them over
(also because it's IMO a more interesting motivation than just "power up and conquer the world")

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something something coda makes it canon

surreal dome
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Is dottore goated

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Yeah

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Just finished it

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Bro looks so sick

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His "power" is what i was expected

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He doesnt have access to moon power now right

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Since bina just

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Gone

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Atleast that what bina said

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Oh damn

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Is capitano still stronger

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Fuck

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Wdym some

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Who is still stronger

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Mav?

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Thats my goat

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I was screaming at the cutscene since no one is answering alice call

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These dumb ahh people

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Yes

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The cutscene

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Have dodoco calling them

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For sometime

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But no one is near

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The only one near is ashru

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But that dumb cat cant do anythin

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Yeah she def figured it out, but i dont think its late

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Just no one

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Was there to

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Response

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Have you seen it?

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For all we know the cutscene could be gone at a different time

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For nasha town

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And other

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Cuz how the hell they get out of there fast

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Hmmmm

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I was about to be seated since varka is going on to the battlefield

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But dude got time stop

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Varka is stronger than arle right? since varka is said to be simillar to capitano

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Lies and deceit

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Lies and deceit

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Nah 6.3 bro

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Trust

golden sluice
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@ashen ocean what's this place? I tried to look for it but found nothing online about it

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in the quest

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are we talking with phantoms

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from Hyperborea?

distant citrus
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Damn dottore is a crafty one huh
I knew he was coming towards the end and it was worth it E_pepelol

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Also Traveler showing their descender privilege again C_TaoHehe

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Columbina going into the same space as Rerir and Tholindis yeah not gonna go well...

slender haven
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Capitano is first though

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And also the master of the Ley lines

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Plus the Night Kingdom is probably from Moon power too

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Varka was just saying Lohen is more durable not stronger than him

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Perhaps under Mount Esus?

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Nah until we see Varka unleash his full strength we can't say
He saved a Dragon Lord, a moon goddess, and fraudulent Descender from the Wild Hunt

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He wants the Moon too after all

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We don't know what Varka's final goal is

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Plus he clapped Alice, absolutely insane feat

slender haven
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For now

distant citrus
slender haven
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He is talking about the context of the Kuuvahki test which he compared to drinking
So Lohen has more tolerance I guess

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Lohen was a fraud who got neg-diffed by some Wild Hunt fodder and sent back to Mondstadt in a pack

slender haven
#

In the quest

distant citrus
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Hmm I don't remember then but his soul was not inside the body that's being used to sustain the leylines

slender haven
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We still have to learn about his expedition

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And we have more wolf lore in store so

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Hey both he and Rerir have wolf motifs

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So

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How crazy would it be if Varka was the Bloodstained Knight
Would be crazy

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Nuh uh

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Two different guys though

distant citrus
#

"In the end, he used that immortality to his advantage and granted the Lord of the Night eternal life by fusing his existence with hers."

I guess they're one and the same then

slender haven
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Sure why not
He's Imunlaukyr, the first Knight of Boreas, and BSK

distant citrus
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His soul still got removed from his body I guess so he's still somewhere in the night kingdom resting

golden sluice
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"Dotorkill"

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yea

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he's dead

slender haven
golden sluice
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🥀

slender haven
#

Some instant kill attack probably

golden sluice
#

why would it have an icon

slender haven
golden sluice
#

it's an ability we use to kill him

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like that one thing we use against Scaramouche

slender haven
golden sluice
#

good point

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ig we'll see

distant citrus
slender haven
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What if we literally beat him by shoving his fate back at him

golden sluice
slender haven
slender haven
golden sluice
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oh ok I get it

slender haven
distant citrus
distant citrus
slender haven
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Cool

distant citrus
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He's not at it continuously

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Also the change was to allow the souls of khanerrian to rest within leylines since they were rejected before
The inclusion of them was what caused the repercussions which we see in lantern rite events

slender haven
golden sluice
#

he looks so cool

distant citrus
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How will he get all 3? Columbina returns then wouldn't rerir too?

distant citrus
#

I think they mentioned it too?

slender haven
distant citrus
#

O don't remember of they did

slender haven
distant citrus
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Oh he's back?

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Tholindis should too then

slender haven
#

Maybe he's chilling on Varka's couch rn though

slender haven
#

Since he has her memories

distant citrus
slender haven
#

We don't know what Yohual's side of the deal is

distant citrus
#

As for what Lord of the night got in return well that's a mystery

slender haven
#

Which it probably can

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So she still has Cap's old body while Cap gets a new perfect body with Night Kingdom powers too

distant citrus
#

We'll see how that works but probably won't work since new khanerriah would just reconstruct the young cap anyway
Like how dereidyth worked

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Unless he wants to replace his soul which I don't think cap would want C_TaoHehe

slender haven
#

Just without the soul

distant citrus
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Atlus doesn't do that is the problem it reconstruct the whole thing
Unless she gets the same tech raiden uses to create sacra E_pepelol
But jokes aside I think old cap story is finished and we'll probably get new version of him in the future assuming they want him back that is

slender haven
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We ain't getting a new version of him that'd be stupid

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If it can revive Khaenri'ah it can revive one dude's body

distant citrus
#

We already saw what it does with dereidyth just on larger scale since the memories were limited at that time but now they got the sufficient memories of khanerriah

distant citrus
slender haven
slender haven
distant citrus
#

No istaroth only merged the two space time into one singular timeline
The one we saw in the beginning was from the memories

slender haven
#

If the Atlas is completed it can do whatever it wants

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And it is completed now

distant citrus
#

True although they already told what they want with the atlus
It's to recreate khanerria which includes the whole package that's why they were collecting memories

slender haven
distant citrus
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They are just looking for suitable place to install the leylines that's all that's left
And then khanerriah will be back alongside whoever memories they took I guess

distant citrus
slender haven
slender haven
distant citrus
#

I wonder though old khanerriah was already targetted by celestia wouldn't that be risky

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They'll probably get new place hidden from the gaze of the gods as they say
Or by the time it happens it wouldn't matter where they place the atlus

slender haven
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Khaenri'ah before was probably hidden too

distant citrus
slender haven
distant citrus
#

No he's dead you can read when albedo explains the process

slender haven
distant citrus
#

That happens before the new durin was born

slender haven
#

Mini Durin "replaced" him and absorbed his heart

slender haven
distant citrus
#

Yeah and the og durin is dead because of that

slender haven
#

Just in the back of his mind

distant citrus
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You can read Durin story too in his character details there also explains he's himself and og durin doesn't exist anymore

distant citrus
#

The things we saw is just his insecurities as explained in his story details the og durin doesn't exist anymore

slender haven
distant citrus
#

Abyss power is different from durin

#

The consciousness doesn't exist anymore

slender haven
#

That's cause he went in New Durin

#

But still
It'd be more like Wanderer anyways

golden sluice
#

how do we know this is about Dottore

#

WAIT

slender haven
#

Hyperborea

golden sluice
#

THIS ACHIEVEMENT IMPLIES IT ENDS WITH A DRAW?

distant citrus
#

The one from the lake one?

slender haven
#

The palaces of the Seelie were Hyperborea

#

Especially in Nod-Krai

#

Yes

distant citrus
#

Nice let's see first angel lore

slender haven
#

Underground

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Like Hyperborea

#

Ajax had to go underground to find it

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Iirc

#

Yes, like the palaces too

distant citrus
#

Royal courtyard of the angel hidden within the forest of lake amrvatnir is different from golden city of hyperborea

slender haven
#

No

distant citrus
#

Two different places

slender haven
distant citrus
#

Maybe read the weapon lore then

slender haven
#

Yes

slender haven
distant citrus
#

So how is the Royal courst inside the forest same as golden city?

slender haven
#

No it doesn't

#

It calls it an ancient kingdom
The kingdom is Hyperborea

slender haven
#

Maybe not the full thing
But a part

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It was because Koitar was Phanes' first daughter

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The First Angel

distant citrus
#

Hyperborea exist toward the furthest North
That's where golden city was
Lake doesn't where Royal court is

slender haven
distant citrus
#

Not the same as hyperborea though

slender haven
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"Legend has it that whoever breaks the golden branch in the forest will find the royal court of the Seelie, which is concealed from mortal eyes during the day.
A kingdom of the past, it lies forgotten by both time and space, hidden in shadow where no heavenly light can touch it."

A singular palace does not constitute as a kingdom
Also Koitar was there and what was she? The queen of Hyperborea

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Koitar's hymn calls her that

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So

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Idk

#

Nod Krai is towards the pole of the planet
Its whole thing is magnets ffs

#

The Palace is just a piece of Hyperborea then
It was a pretty big kingdom after all

#

We'll get the full thing later

golden sluice
#

@ashen ocean

slender haven
golden sluice
#

it's certainly a possibility

#

there's two Dottores

#

in the text leak

#

what if another Dottore teams up with us and that icon earlier

distant citrus
golden sluice
#

is using his support against Omega?

slender haven
#

Seutervoinen was also the "apostle" of Hyperborea

distant citrus
#

They worship her as angel

slender haven
#

They asked her too many questions causing her to slink away to Irminsul and meet Seutervoinen

distant citrus
#

Yes still doesn't make her the ruler of golden city

slender haven
#

Koitar was still located in Hyperborea
From your logic it would be like Deshret being found in Remuria or something

#

That Koitar and Seutervoinen were in

distant citrus
slender haven
#

That's a fairy tale in universe
Also, could have been a Gurabad situation

slender haven
distant citrus
#

If anything the palace from the sky could have fallen inside the forest

slender haven
#

No she wasn't sent there she was there

slender haven
distant citrus
#

It was an age when the unknowing masses still bowed to the sky's decrees, when the dawn star's royal court still hung high above the clouds.

slender haven
#

Humans who live on the ground

distant citrus
#

I don't know

slender haven
distant citrus
#

Looks like angel lived above the ground

slender haven
#

They were the proto archons

slender haven
#

Nicole didn't

distant citrus
#

Dawn star's Royal court means just that it's her court and that existed above the sky
No she didn't live in golden city

slender haven
#

Andrius also got his powers there
You know, the guy called BOREAS?

slender haven
distant citrus
#

Again how does any this prove the Royal court inside the forest is golden city? Lol
They're two different place

slender haven
#

Just like the palace

#

Agree to disagree then

#

Idk

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Where does it say that?

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It doesn't say that

#

The people angered the Angels with their questions and they retreated into Irminsul

#

Where does it say that

#

I don't see the word sent there

#

In fact Koitar was deeper down

#

That just means they were above them figuratively

#

Like a God over humans

#

No

#

It doesn't say that

#

I looked at the other translations
It just says that the Angels were FROM Heaven not that they looked down from Heaven

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"In those days, the silvery moonlight still shone upon the lands of the far north, and celestial emissaries still watched over the earth.
The golden city, which had angered a certain emissary by questioning the knowledge of evolution, was embroiled in an endless dispute to appease his wrath.
The priests blamed one another for the sin of usurpation, for profaning divine love, prosperity, and wisdom.
From among them all, they had to choose the chief culprit who had corrupted the wisdom of the others, so that he could plead for forgiveness from the furious celestial emissaries.
However…"

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They just watched over Earth because they were humans' guides

#

When they were first made

#

Then they started guiding humans below

#

That's why we see Seelie all over the place
They were on the ground

distant citrus
#

There was some quest in liyue I think when chenyu vale was released that showed the mural and how people of unified civilization communicated with divine envoys
It looked like they had to summon them for audience

slender haven
#

Yes they lived in separate palaces
On the ground

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It doesn't show them summoning them lol

#

And the Palaces they had on Teyvat shoots that down

#

Regardless Koitar stayed in Hyperborea for her rebellion with Seutervoinen
On the ground

#

Why do you think the palaces were on the ground at all?

distant citrus
#

Dawn daughter's Royal court hanging above the cloud is also another proof they lived above
Now it doesn't mean they can't go below but probably didn't most of the time unless they were summoned for audience or celestia wanted to pass on their message to humans or something

slender haven
#

In Drunkard's Ballad it says they built them in the Dark Sea
Aka on the ground

#

Dark Sea is anything not ruled by Archons

#

Like Nod-Krai

#

It's an autonomous territory

#

But I'm getting sleep
So agree to disagree lol

#

We'll find out in a month anyways

slender haven
#

They went back and forth
They had palaces on the surface after all

#

Or HP telepathically communicated with them

#

It may have when it was underground

#

They're a God

#

Not physically

#

The palace is Hyperborea

#

It's still north

#

Koitar was underground in Irminsul

#

She wasn't sent there that's just where she was located

#

It just says the Ruins were in the North

distant citrus
#

Damn we're getting lunar palace too next update albeit a ruined one C_TaoHehe

slender haven
#

And the palace was just a part of it

#

Since Koitar was there

#

And she gave Hyperboreans life powers

#

It isn't far south lol

#

Plus the Lake is magical somehow since it "hides" the palace from you
It could be some form of pocket dimension/teleportation

#

The word "sent" is never used lol

#

That's a fact

#

She lived there

distant citrus
#

Lake is probably like that one island we saw in venti hex quest

slender haven
#

In her palace

distant citrus
#

Hidden from the timeline

slender haven
#

Because they did come from Celestia
They just went down to the surface

#

Dawning Frost says the Angels stood by as the Earth civilizations warred

#

So surface civilizations

distant citrus
#

Yes the one with puzzle
Do venti hex quest it's explained better there what the island is

#

Unless you don't have venti

#

Then just read the quest

#

Yeah just read it from ambr

slender haven
#

Well that wouldn't make sense cause the Angels guided the human civilizations

#

Persian

#

Yes but they spent a good chunk of the time on surface
Like Hyperborea

#

Sumeru is just kinda a mix of that area

#

Dottore and Dottore

distant citrus
#

Yup they had to come down to do the guiding anyway but their resting place was still above the sky
Of course later when the rebellion happened and they were cursed the remaining ones had to live on the ground even underground in case of lord of the night

slender haven
#

Dottore's tragic backstory is that he had a tiger mom
That's it.

slender haven
distant citrus
slender haven
#

In Hyperborea

distant citrus
#

Oh speaking of voyager nicole couldn't recall his name in the quest which was interesting

distant citrus
slender haven
#

Which used to be part Hyperborea

#

In the top part at least

distant citrus
#

These two are two different palace is what I believe

slender haven
#

Well things may have gotten shifted around after the Nails
Remember part of the landmass broke off so things could have been split apart

#

One part of Hyperborea broke off and moved far north
The other part remained with the rest and became buried under the Lake

#

Or something like that

#

Ballad of the Fjords said it became part island

#

Wait

#

"Legends say the winter comes from Hyperborea, and the fjords and auroras there are curved and sharp as the fangs of wolves,
And the glaciers and snowfields are always fissuring forth new crevices, or filling them in, creating an ever-changing land.
Until at long last, the frozen earth cut itself from the umbilical cord of the continent, as though it had its own will or dreams,
Leaving behind only the legend of young Ajax, who discovered the country of gold and white stone"

#

See

lone sable
#

how long are the new quests

slender haven
#

Yeah part of it broke off

#

Into the sea

#

And became an island

#

Yes because of the Nail

#

Because they broke off