#・genshin-spoilers
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poor moon sisters
they were just a casuality in the power struggle between Nibelung and PO
They were already those
They were cowards
Fuck 'em
"Errrrr we can't fight The HP they're too strong sorry dragons you're all going to die"
fairs
also
Nibelung's prayer says he made the bow, shuttle, and chariot before leaving for space
And that they were stolen
Nibelung lost the first time PO came to Teyvat right?
Nibelung wasn't there when PO first invaded
or did he leave before PO came
He only came back later
I see
then it was the 7 sovereigns who fought back against PO?
Also Huurekutar's prayer calls her the "mother of the shuttle"
Yeah for 40 years
no wonder they got packed up without Nibelung there
Maybe Luhen just has a higher alcohol tolerance
Not really
They shredded up a Sinner
has it ever been revealed why Nibelung brought the abyss with him?
Not explained yet
All we know is that he was "reckless" and got corrupted
I see
Rerir went into a moon gate and he came back in a million pieces
Damn
He just calls it a "force"
Not a being
PO is on their death bed
They haven't done anything
It would be a Nibelung system if anything
Nibelung crippled them
Cataclysm just sent them into a coma
They've been on their death bed since the Funerary Year
that can explain why he'd yell Rhinedottir's name
Telling other people to do the work took too much out of them
By yelling at her
Nothing physical
She's a daddy's girl
Istaroth has been doing all sorts of shit without Phanes finding out lol
Ronova is just a wuss
Still
Maybe Bloodstained Knight did it
He climbed a "tower" and hated The HP for cursing people into Hillichurls
Also would be cool
In the Lunar Arcanum
It mentions "Roland" (BSK's real name) searching for a "tower"
Those who come bearing welcome round the mountain slope in single file,
To witness,
The final scene of my life,
One more searing page.
I stop, taking in their faces,
Certain that I know each one.
A fearless cry rises from my lips,
"Master Roland, who seeks the dark 'Tower,'
Has come before it."
Roland was searching for a dark tower
Probably
That place is weird though
Could lead back to Celestia since it's mentioned the spiral staircase is similar to the one in visions
Tell me all the lore, please
Yeah
Old woman spotted
Funny cause the current "god" of hydro doesn't give a shit about fate
Lohen is the vice captain of the 5th company
Bum ass couldn't even fight basic Wild Hunt fodder
Varka def just humble
Cool ig
Yeah I already read that
Geez I wonder if she's gonna die 🙄
Another Khaenri'ahn is going to have to sit on a big chair for her ig
I read both
Sorry but Da Wei can't have more than 1.8 men in this game at any given time
The literal number 1 Sandrone gif is the Columbina make out one 💔
They also made a Laufer one
Nah a different one
Made by Sandbine guy too
It isn't on Discord
Maybe
Dain was needed to keep the second moon gate open
Not exactly
And after Alice said that the Fatui were doing it "in vain" lmao
Dottore in the Moon Gate rn
Capitano is still ranked higher
Capitano upscale
They're bitching about Arle though
All his feats are public though
So Cap still higher
OH I AM
Capitano control the ley lines right now
Only Arle and Sandrone
Using indirect methods is a down scale most caees
And they stupid
so everything happening in Nod Krai
Dottore was behind it
the witches involvment
Rerir's ressurection
That was kinda obvious ever since the plot point of someone had to have had rerir intially be resurrected
not really
no one would have predicted
No she does
She ordered him back to Nod-Krai
that he was the reason behind the borders
Pierro probably knows too
borders' going haywire
Well i meant the rerir part
No Arle says he went back
The witches ye
it's unclear
The rerir part was kinda him
on one hand they say he went back on her orders
yes that we've known since 6.1
how
He's first
Btw based on durin story quest datamine is structured like an event
well yeah but that's just it
Yeah but then she ordered him back
Bring up the screenshot
yea 5 days
And that's all you need
not really
Idk
I'm tired rn
Thoughts i lowkey don't mind it
Capitano is first and he's confirmed the strongest
what the fuck
It's basically a plus 30 every day
how did he do that
Even as a corpse
ehhh, Capitano haven't anything so far other than his "sacrifice"
He tricked Ronova into giving him the ley lines
He's king of the planet now pretty much
Atp dottore only showing potential to be only 2nd
what the fuck
Is also a 3d chess move
Chess is already 3d
Genshin is technically 2d
you mean 4D chess move
The state they gonna find Dottore and Columbina in:
why is she talking like Columbina's still a harbinger 🥀
the moment Columbina left it's free real estate baby
wtf
why is this mf yearning
💀
@ashen ocean dude
how Dottore
did do that
tamper with the memories
Everyone can
Varka says they're going to use variables too
had different backgrounds
Columbina wouldn't have thrown herself in there otherwise
The last two are probably going to be relevant to the finale ig
This was all a 4d chess plan to get Columbina back in the Fatui
She would
She was desperate
Dottore ambushed them after all
Capitano upscale
She reviewed Capitano as a guy sitting on a chair as first
bro is maintaining the agenda
It isn't an agenda
He is first
Tbh dottore did all that just cause he wasn't strong enough
He only had it for like 5 seconds
Before getting moon gated
Again indirect methods doesn't mean he better at base
Tholindis had one moon marrow with her
So everything but the frost moon
The Frost Moon became Columbina
She's the marrow now
She took it to make the gate
He opened it again with Abyss powers ig
even now
look at the sub
Sandrone and Arle are getting slandered while Dottore is getting glazed
I don't like FatuiHQ
They're annoying ngl
Lowkey tho all the dottore feats r this patch doesn't that mean he'll get omega stomped next
She?
Power of friendship beats all
You playing an anime game what do you expect tbh
And Capitano had all his friends inside him 24/7
So, again, the strongest
I keep opening to check for other leaks
Why would she use Abyss powers though
It's been 6/7 regions eneded like that
ONG
Or the Marrow, which she had
bro had hundreds of men inside him for years 😭
Pantalone is
Cause just look at him
So did the dottore end with 2 marrows with him or no
He did and Columbina
No
Using Marrow
That's the set up for the next
Indeed
Bina patch
And Horse patch
Goattore
And Illuga too I think
I fucking am already gonna hate the dottore glazing
My Dad scales above Dottore since he graduated college
deadass 😭
Lohen is a fraud
is he forgetting he was getting carried by Jean in terms of paperwork and office work for years now
Couldn't even fight Wild Hunt fodder without getting sent back to Mondstadt in a pack
mf been doing it even before the expedition
So
fym by that
And she's the one who sucks him off the most so whose the real winner here
errrrr
That just means he ain't throw fade with just hands
"returned at her orders"
Returned to Sneznahya or Nor-Krai?
does a mf have to throw hands with an archon on screen for him to be allat for you guys
Kukulkan never made a moon
🥀
He just made a baby
DOTTORE BETTER THEN
DOTTORE UPSCALE
RAHHHHHHHHHH
that's my agenda
you hate Dottore?
Rerir has had sex
So he's stronger
actually
I'm more i dislike the over glaze
we don't know if he did or not
Strongest being in Teyvat actually
That will happen
since they're not even engaged
Bro rerir is stupid
Tholindis could have traditional values and wanted to wait for marriage to have sex with Rerir
If he didn't hit once
so we don't know if they had sex or not
Khaenri'ah was a good Christian society with no sex before marriage
However I have a crackpot theory that Tholindis was actually pregnant with Rerir's child when she jumped inside the Gate and that child became Columbina
He didn't
Xiuhcoatl stopped him
I hope so
I want Rerir to be Columbina's father so bad
His big bro wanted to make his own group project
Which succeeded
And activating it is the canon ending trust me
then why did he kill kids
So act 5 is basically the festival
Act 6 is dottore glaze
Little One the strongest
nah Dottore is only appearing at the end of act 6
😭
Lowkey how would the silver moon chronicles work without bina
you're frying me bro
they won't
Htf did they fit that much
They're canonically taking place before the final quests of act 6 I guess
But the final two Chronicles are not available
Strongest Genshin character
Or funny they lock it out if you finish the aq first
I kinda miss Rerir already
It just isn't the same without him
He'll be back though ig
I assume Dottore weekly boss is him using the moons power then?
I mean ye
Probably
Also mixed in with Columbina maybe
Holy shit pls make it a copy of separoth
The Weekly boss art should be leaked fairly soon right?
today if we're lucky like in Nefer's and Durin's beta
Prepare your lunar charged characters cause ain't no way this isn't going to be a gimmick fight
Cool
I remember durin's leaking around
1-2 hours later from now

hold on
who are the three unknown tall females btw
huh
then why didn't her model
get leaked
yeah
welp
wait for beta now
We could have it soon
Also any theories on the time gated durin quest
Just experimentation
For me
It's 1
So first an sq and event has direct ties
Hmmm
if this is true what this means is that i can catch the fuck up on the selenics lmfao
Lowkey what is driving dottore to do all of this
I haven't read through everything tho
Lowkey
The welkin moon makes sense
If it was like a 500 year project
Would irminsul editing
Be the same as creating a moon
On scaling
I have two thoughts again haven't finished reading shit
He either spent a good chunk of his long life making it
Or
He just edited imrmunsul to remove the guy that actually removed it
If it's already explained on how
Just say it
No my theories on how he could've achieved the feat
Dude i'm like first part of act 5
I just wanna jump to the good shit for conversation
The moon symbol near him is the Crimson moon narrow right
Also jahoda apparently calls ineffa a clancker
Which has further my theory that the workshop is just for stra wars references
I like the clanker jokes
Only when people acknowledges it came from star wars
@ashen ocean do you know the prerequisites for durin SQ?
@ashen ocean wait he actually made the welkin moon it's not just a false information he planted?
what the fuck
isn't that like
the hugest upscale ever
for him

huh
we are SO FUCKING WINNING
he saved us all
6.3 arrives
how Dottore feels like carrying the Fatui

We all know him having 3 moons power is too good for him to last
Also who cooked that dottore watch what happened when the 3 moons is together
what happens
Nothing
It is just a theory that dottore want to see what happens
This one is different
Nope,he is getting his moon narrow taken back
He might live but everything would be lost
everything would be lost yea
but
he probably will finish
his objective
or some of it
Might finished BUT he wont be controlling the welkin moon
This make sense because Columbina would become the new moon
yes as long as he finishes it then that's good enough
welkin means empty?
Because no moon narrow,no ruler
we'll see, considering that the selenic chronicles finish in 6.3 which means Columbina will be back then
she most likely won't stay on the mean
Editing irminsul doesn't change the world, only the memories stored within it
If someone kidnapped somebody for example, then erased the kidnapping from irminsul, it'd just be a missing person case. The person wouldn't just come back.
Dottore will never die
dottore IS dead
like already
..
um
yes
He did
Rerir is Dottore
trust
Why are you ignoring the possibility of Rerir being bisexual and therefore loving Tholindis but also being a lil gay
Rerir is Dottore

Yup
his names are Dottore, Zandik and Rerir
theyre all the same person trust
like how Childe is Tartaglia and Ajax
you're allowed to disagree and be wrong
fr
Nefer sees everything
I fully believe Nefer is a top 3 allogene
vision havers
it's what celestia calls vision holders
apparently 🥀
basically allogenes are people with the potental to ascend to godhood
cueck
they leaked the Hexenzirkel's intro cards
full one
why is it so fancy compared to the sinners and harbingers
They cooked with Hexenzirkel intro
ikr
a lot of titles too
🥀
dude
someone in the leak subreddit said that those introd are canon
Nicoles outfit is so pretty I just hate her hair
I need to see a picture of her full body in game
that render did her no favors
Dottore is dead
He isnt gonna be playable
Rerir is dead too because theyre the same person
So he isnt gonna be playable
Yup because theyre the same person
Glad you get it
Your forgetting gold is both dottore and rerir and she would be playable post Celestia
No gold is already playable...
So rerir and dottore are playable
No
Is she Childe as well ?
Gold is not rerir/dottore/columbina
Yeah
Gold is Childe/Neuvillette
Theyre the same person
Damn
Wait whose rerir /Columbina / dottore ?
Is it .... Lygus
Damn that's gonna be a romantic allegory like non that has come before
Which means scarlecchimouche is irontomb
...literally the main character..?
you pick lyrene's gender when you first start genshin
and cyregus is your twin
Lyrene is the final genshin character her talent is
If you have sigewinne, gold and zomglob on team all enimies die and the game gets deleted so you need to install it again
Scarlecchimouche?
Is this alternative universe
No this is hoyoverse
No it's a cave
Who speak the truth
I can but you can't handle the truth
It's a good job tribios opened the century gate in time
Is this where we fight Dototr
||Welcome to my worldddddddee renew your definition||
This is the truth
If he was a witch would he be Dodottore
I'm tired of saying these eharbiger name
eharbiger
harbingers are jews?
fatuity hamburgers
How is was this leak
i am scarlecchimouche the 67th fatty hamburger
Old*
Hexenzirkel mfs said they don't involve themselves in matters like this
sooooo
sooooooooo
Dottore is gonna win ✌️
you heard it from me first
Also how come Bina can summon moon gate when time was stopped
gotta be a diff design sinxe his og one doesn't have an ID
Did we break her free by touching
too bad I love his current design
We should get hexenzirkel traveler
Nah lunar
tribios summoned the century gate
naw she was touching Dottore probs
Look like I gotta go to project amber
nuh uh
Columbina didn't summon shit it was Tribios
Huh so only Traveler escaped then
Columbina's the real evil
Tribios summoned the century gate

damn im skipping columbina now
you sure tho
Yes
You're welcome for the century gate
Maybe the real reason Scaramouche left is because Columbina isn't a one-time offender
you should've died 1000 years ago
New cycle bitch
another cycle of a thousand mini tribios running around
just kill me already
@ashen ocean yo tell them to leak something else already
I need beta
I want to see
Hear me out
Cereal brand
Tribi-O's
cereal
and you get exactly 1000 of them in each box
and you eat them one by one
do you like my idea
Tr
uck
@ashen ocean btw is there columbina act 3 quest in 6.2
Ye
Bru
So u can't even get her wings immediately

Alsodoes that mean Dottore either go back to his experiment or Bina give him rerir treatment
I dont think columbina will be missing for the entire 6.2 lol
she is tho
That is probably why act 3 is available
Eh
This would be terrible for player who is still way behind
Imagine doing the quest and she just disappeared and reappear next week

lowkey what's gonna happen
yo wait
Columbina's releasing in 6.3 so her story is concluding in that patch
she probably reconnected with her moon after she teleported with Dottore and got her full power back
Cereal
I mean that should be expected
Also I think she will connect with a new moon
I read everything
So Dottore was trying to control Columbina but he failed,probably so she can be the Moon God for his Empty Moon
And the three Moon sister did not betrayed HP
They were jailed by Nibelung and could not do anything
she'll probably be the frostmoon's new god since it's still intact
yeah I've seen that too
I think I understand why Shade let them pass
They probably realise the moon didn't betrayed them
So they just let Columbina try to ascend to be one herself
This story answer our confusion why is it called welkin moon
hype about the welkin moon since the game's release and it's Dottore who made it
absolute cinema
So will the lady change to columbina
Almost no one hype about it lol
The Moon wasn't significant since the game release
there was tho
Most people just speculate there is a moon goddess or something
6.3 beta leak prayge
I want to see everything
So is the welkin moon Dottore's waifu or some shit?
All this time and he was just trying to create a girl who liked him
He killed the last girl who liked him after all 
I'm still upset that my Varka agenda is fucked rn
But I still have hope, it's darkest before dawn and what not
He'll end up getting the power of The Moons somehow I just know it
Eternal Moon maybe
Arle probably wants the Iridescent Moon Marrow back
She wanted it
6.3 quests will probably fix that
Columbina can't use other Moon Marrows remember?
She said that back in 6.0
So the other moon Marrows have to go some place else
That's cause he isn't a Moon Goddess
So he can take three women inside of him
No, that was just a joke Columbina made really
Arle isn't called a Moon Goddess
nod krai first weekly boss sussy tieba leak, mtl
||>!Law Rewriting Mechanism: Dottore can temporarily alter certain rules of battle, such as changing the effects of elemental reactions, adjusting gravity, or pausing the flow of time. These mechanisms completely overturn the usual combat system, forcing players to quickly adapt to the newly rewritten laws.!<
!Fate-Weaving Attack: Drawing upon the Columbina's ability to weave fate, Dottore can unleash “Fate-Weaving” attacks capable of predicting the player’s movement trajectory and striking with pinpoint precision. Players must use unconventional movement techniques to evade these attacks.!<
!Code Injection Mechanism: Leaked information suggests that Dottore’s goal is to “rewrite Teyvat’s code.” In gameplay terms, this could manifest as Dottore injecting negative code into the player’s characters—forcing character swaps, disabling certain abilities, or altering character attributes.!<
!Reality Distortion Field: The Power of Reason allows Dottore to generate a field that distorts reality itself, where the laws of physics, elements, and even causality can be altered. Players must uncover the hidden logic within the distorted field and find a way to break through.!<||
@ashen ocean
someone posted in the leaks subreddit megathread like
around 3 to 4 weeks ago
ikr
that's why I told you someone should browse through tieba 😭
some of them are actually true
like those mechanics are literally the same thing Dottore did in the quest
😔
ong
that's why I browse through
the subreddit megathread
sometimes
the mods are too strict and don't let any leak pass througg
but anyone can comment a "leak" they find
yeah
it holds up
Too advanced for Genshin 
He's just going to have a big attack that you need to hit him with Lunar reactions to stop which will stun him and cause you to do a lot of damage
true, but it holds up with what he does in the quest
feel like it might be an early iteration of the boss
before they decided to go the lazy wah
way
I'm still coping that it's going to be some fucked up looking fusion of Dottore and the Moons/Columbina
the moons yeah
but Columbina idts tbh
especially since she's the "archon" character she most likely will help us against him and make her a cutscene where she's being badass
they always do it to characters releasing in that patch
I suppose. But he uses the power of reason right?
Hroptatyr had the power of reason from his claymore's description
Hroptatyr was a pillar of Khaenri'ah
Capitano was equal to the Pillars of Khaenri'ah
So this is more Capitano upscale
I mean Columbina might resurface from within and make him unstable
Before we pull her out
we'll see, the animations are releasinf within the next 48 hours
we'll see the design
I hope you're right tho
When are we getting the drip marketing again?
I wanna see Illuga
probably monday next week
They're also both bird themed
Dottore is a raven while Columbina is a dove
we're seeing him in beta before dripcmarketing
ah yes
true
Cool
I love crows a lot
what a coincidence my favorite character has a Crow as his constellation
I think it's a raven tbh
Or maybe even a vulture
Both would also fit
wait
are the plague doctors
nvm nvm
I remember seeing crows in Nod Krai's teaser
and the
shades teaser
some people theorize it could be Dottore symbolism
It could also do with Odin since he had crows as familiars
And Odin is referenced a lot in Genshin
ig so but I think it's likely more of Dottore's symbolism considering he's the main antagonist of Nod Krai
I guess
I wouldn't rely on it ngl
cz
Kirara had that with a different design and then in the end they changed it
deadass
it's so fun
Childe and rosalyn will be with bina and arle in all honesty
The tea party division
The fatuis that will be atleast they want to be morally vague enough to be playable
Yes
Basically anyone that work with Traveler is on "Arlechinno" side
Well Rosa did not but
She is a good friend if we know her better
oh they're not talking about sides or anything like that
it's about the harbingers who contribute to the Fatui and the ones who don't
all three harbingers on the left are on fraud watch
well two of them🥀
I just realised,since Traveler ship is actually in the game(fully model with details),I have a feeling we will be using it find Columbina
Dottore weekly domaim will located at where Traveler ship originally was
Or
It is located at where the Traveler ship is in 6.2
Since we have Alice on our side,it wont be hard to get out and Shade wont mind because they know Traveler won't leave without their Sibling
deadass thought we were going to make Columbina reach the moon using the ship pre 6.2 leaks
but what you're saying makes sense now
they can't open anymore moon gates
and the ship is conventiently found in 6.2
that gotta be it
Yeah,dont see her coming back because she lost all her power from that moon gate
Sandrone contribute to the fatui just by having adventure guild
A worldwide organisation
The meme doesnt make sense too,Arlechinno contribute a lot by training those orphan to be their fighters
Columbina contributed a lot with her moon power before needing to return to NodKrai to rest
it's just mainly about recent events and what's happening with Dottore
if you saw the preload leaks
What dottore did don't neglected what the other have done lol
What childe did is nothing in comparison
He shouldn't be there
Fighting Narwhal doesn't help the Fatui just in case
He was following Signora plan so his feat in Liuye is non existent
Also why is pantalone here,he barely mentioned and only created the weird money system in a prison
And that goblin mayor guy
He was only relevant in Citlali SQ but he seem to want to steal Night Wind culture or whatever
He founded Northland bank too
He also funds Dottore's experiments
He's like the only harbinger who has a fairly clear purpose in the organization
Illuga design apparently
I can't tell if he's tall or medium though
Probably medium but I expected that
Celadon Mare/Zhibai design
Good point,I forgot he is bank owner
Medium according to another leak
Is he lightkeeper or something
I expected that tbh
Yes, he's a ratnik like Flins and he's the son of the leader of the Lightkeepers
I also think he's the founder of the Voynich Guild
But that's just my theory
it in flins voiceline I guess?
In his lore I believe
I wonder if he can do flins special quest or it will have an alternative ending or he can only do quest at LigghtKeepr HQ
Jahoda can do some of Nefer's unique interactions I think so probably at least one of Flins'
We got confirmation of little witch authors volume wise
Volume authors go like this...
Alice, Barb, Rhine, Ivanova, Nicole, Octavia and last volume is again Alice I think
I think it was already guessed before except for ivanova one but it nice to have official confirmation
The Eighth Hexenzirkel witch as mysterious as the tenth harbinger atp 😭
It's said all the 7 witches at the time when the book was written i don't think there's 8th at least for now...
Well their symbol had eight marks to represent eight witches so it's weird
See?
They'll probably add the 8th later
Actually they did say they don't remove the og seat of dead member so new addition like scarlet would still represent the 8th
So you have
Alice, barb, nicole, ivanova, scarlet, rhine, anya, octavia
That's 8
So two dead with one already added and then other would maybe in future
maybe
||Emilie and Mona will kill dottore , rip his heart out , eat his pancreas and steal his kidneys to sell them and use the money to afford physiotherapy for capitano once he stands up from his chair||
Time for judgement
I hope it will be true
It seems peak
I bet we will be using Traveler in that fight because only Traveler would be immune to all of those crazy shit
But then how will they managed element reaction swap mechanic?
Vape now do electro charge?
Also all of the ability is too advanced for genshin
And annoying of course
Also why would he has the power of reason at all
The 3 moons we know certainly control one mechanism
And reason is 100% not one of them
No way
That kinda funny
Also it seem like she is able to hold the moongate for very long
I guess Nibelung had the power of reason and gave it to them
oh yes I saw it
apparently he obtained the some of the powers of the 4 shades of PO
that explains why he manages to do allat in his weekly boss form
wonder who he's refering to when he said
they all believed he'd fail
there's also one more interesting line
"time for one final experiment"
don't tell me
he knows he might die
😭
the celestia sub posted
yeah
ts so funny
I don't think it's that simple for Dottore tbh
didn't he promise to make a god for Pierro
in that artifact set
maybe he was referring to himself all along

that's what I've been thinking for a while
a 5th descender
would be so fitting
what if Tartaglia appears in 6.3 just for Dottore to make him the 5th descender
true
6.3 tho is
probably the end of Dottore
🥀
how
dude I just hope it's not Dottore
🥀
Dottore?
I always thought that was a crow
ydah
yeah
I told
someone about it
yesterday
also
in the first teaser
Nicole says the Fatui are trying to seize the firmament in vein
that probably refers to Dottore
in the preload Arlecchino did say he was trying to change his destiny or take control of it
everything points to him failing
and it's most likely a shade
that's going to intervene and stop him
I don't think she's going to fail tbh
agenda and everything else aside
this is hoyo
they've been talking about him like he's Satan
for the last two patches
he's a villain through and through
and hoyo doesn't like villains succeeding
and don't forget
6.3 is Columbina's patch
she'll get her power bacm somehow
and beat him
fairs
but I believe that's an exception
and it's Columbina's patch
they're gonna try to sell their character
I suppose
we'll see
when do
the linecounts
get leaked
for 6.3
Nibelung glaze incoming
I think The Moons must have also had those powers in their prime
she just realized he was distracting them but not his plans no?
nah im asking when do they get leaked usually
that's what they imply yes
actually not even imply
it was confirmed
The kids were assholes they deserve it
fuck phanes and celestia bro im never falling for the propaganda
"Oh sorry dragons the HP is too strong so just let your civilizations be destroyed while we start sucking them off and get cushy positions. Yes we know we were supposed to protect the planet but uhhhhhh it will TECHNICALLY still exist"
I wish we got to see their faces as Nibelung pulled out the Abyssal belt
Hell yes
This will help an argument I was in earlier
what's the argument about
I was arguing that Phanes possibly based The Shades off of the Moons in some way and or got their help in creating them
In other words, The shades are plagiarisms of the Moons
nah you're right, beta preload drops within a few hours of the patch's release
My man
kind of obvious ngl atp, why would anyone argue against it
The Moon arcana already kinda told us this
They controlled "the underworld" the "tides of life" "the calendar" and "space"
They had a Phainon PFP and are a Phanes glazer
Just use the wiki
Who?
It was on a different site
I deadass hate Phainon bro 😭✌️
probably reddit no?
it's full of celestia and archin glazers
But I was thinking
The Iridescent Moon Goddess said that if she was "braver" then she wouldn't have suffered such a horrible fate. Could she have been one of the Moons who wanted to remain "neutral" whilst the Frostmoon wanted to reunite with Nibelung?
Yes
Maybe if she gets her full power back
That place sucks
If they took some of the powers of the Moons I guess
that actually makes sense
also
Columbina should be shade level at full power no?
considering phanes made the shades
in their images
The world is still rejecting her so not at the moment
Ronova probably used moon powers to make the Night Kingdom
Would make sense
But you think if the Moons and Sovereigns fought together they would have won?
I think she may have been one of the creations of the Moons
Maybe
The Moons + Sovereigns though
It took 40 years for Phanes + Shades to beat them all
And if Moons helped make the Shades then
They could be remade
PO made it a wasteland for the Dragons anyways
But you think the Shades took some of the Moons' powers
But the Moons held authority over time, space, and so on
I like him I hate the people who say he's The HP though
Peace for them and for no one else
Fuck the Moons man how did a Chad like Nibelung have three fraudulent daughters
I love Kevin and don't feel like Phainon really is another version of him that's why, it's just my bias
tho if the PO is a Kevin expy
but unlikelt
genshin abandoned expys
I don't think so
I think The Moons helped make the Shades tbh
back in Inazuma
I thought the moons were neutral and didn't help or fight against the PO?
They helped The HP because they made the Moon Wheels together
why did they do that
They're cowards
Maybe they were neutral in the first conflict but they helped The HP afterwards
They could have helped make the Shades beforehand at least and not fought with them afterwards
Idk, Dottore kind of confirms there is a link there
Yes
I'm not so sure. Istaroth was said to be the "protector of the 4 moons"
In her hymn
And both Ronova and The Moons are said to be the Lords of the underworld
Yeah she's weird
The Frostmoon also helped out Hyperborea rebel
So she didn't like the HP either
While Sonnet wanted to be neutral and Aria is unknown
So I wonder if we'll get more info on that "4th moon" eventually
I guess it's Nod-Krai but it's still weird
Probably
The Frostmoon was the most special
No it's probably Nod-Krai since we know it was a failed moon
Welkin Moon is a fake
Literally means hollow
Yeah but it went away
It doesn't have any power
It's just an illusion
It was just a Kuuvahki magnet I guess
But it wasn't a rock or anything
Ok
Idk
Ill have to read the dialogue again
The welkin moon isn't imprisoned though
Also nobody calls it the welkin moon
But I'm hoping Columbina's weapon description gives some good lore
Also the new artifacts are going to be juicy too
Hopefully they have some good Nibelung agenda because I need to glaze him some more
The Hymns calls the 4 moons "imprisoned" though
Yeah but Columbina is the most important Moon so far
Also aren't the wings we're getting called the "gift" of the Welkin Moon?
So maybe Columbina will fuse with it idk
And she'll have a white haired form in her game play
Or it was Nod-Krai
I can dream
@ashen ocean @slender haven https://www.reddit.com/r/ThePrimordialOne/s/8TyH1B6Vij
they're seething
Damn what it say
Lol, I'm really hoping they reveal Nibelung wasn't even killed by The HP or something and that he actually just willingly sacrificed himself to stop his own destruction
They'd be seething
they're mad mad
that reminds me
saw someone say
I'm a Nibelung glazer I pray on their pain
It was 5v1 technically since Nibelung took the Moons for himself and imprisoned the Goddesses
But I think the Abyss actually may have weakened Nibelung and not made him stronger
Because the Abyss is poison to dragons
ah alright
wow
Nibelung is by far the strongest entity we know of in the lore right?
I personally don't take whaf was said about Surtalogi at face value and I feel a lot of it is exaggerated
yeah
Yeah probably Nibelung is the Monad while PO is the Demiurge
Prime Nibelung was so bright that Seutervoinen thought it was the greatest thing she had ever seen
I know but it's just my theory
Going off of what happened to Apep and Xiuhcoatl
that's the voyager right
Yes
We still don't know where The PO came from though
My theory is that they come from The Voyager's homeland and that they used the information Seutervoinen brought in mistakenly to help take over Teyvat
She was supposed to be a "scribe"
So maybe everything she saw was being broadcasted back home somehow
Her real body was in some mechanical device after all
No it was just her mind
I thought her real body is still outside
Surtalogi is strong but he isn't the strongest thing to have ever existed
Yeah through her spirit
idts
Yes in some "celestial disk" or something
he told Skirk to search for her in teyvat after all
"Yet she was not the first outsider to set foot here, for long before the scions of the far north had woven their sweet dream of submergence,
A voyager, whose sentient will traversed the cosmos, once made a vow of reunion with a lord of dragons who had yet to fall into darkness."
Finale of the Deep Galleries
It was just her "sentient will"
"As her undying body slumbered away within a distant celestial disk-construct, her mind had drifted through an empty expanse spanning many light years,
Charting countless peoples and civilizations fated to perish, pondering the ultimate truths of the cosmos in that eternal darkness."
This too
Indeed
She also might be a bug or mollusk
Something to do with Fuli if I had to guess
But I don't know HSR lore crazy well
Turtles are chordates I think
Yeah
I think he just wants her will
