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The abyss twin is recovering from memory loss, not immediately remembered the spaceship would've been the answer
I must apologize Dainsleif, I didn't know your game. Didn't know you were this much of a dedicated hater and smoke demon
He really do be on his Kendrick time with the Abyssal Order
Beating an undead cripple to death 100 times over is crazy work
BRO WHAT CALL THE POLICE ON THIS MAN
He saw that man get back up and realized it was time for free therapy
This man needs help
By the by, this was hinted at earlier, but with Dainsleif being a call in it is pretty clear that his Abyssal element will in gameplay terms become "anti-element", where it cleanses any element it gets in contact with and shreds shields like crazy
It’s possible
But idk
I feel like in practice it’d be sth a bit more balanced
I mean that is pretty balanced. Shield-popping is a pretty niche application and after the shitshow that were Fatui shields Mihoyo has pretty much given you a dozen ways to destroy a shield of any given element
Skirk's story paragraph made it clear that back in the days of Khaenreia this technique was literally seen as a parlor trick. Completely ineffective with extensive training allowing you basic manipulation of a single element nowhere near the potential of a fresh vision.
And then Surtalogi came along and said "lmao watch this" and just casually began using all 7 elements at combat grade on his first try. The lore makes clear he is a complete and total anomaly and prior to becoming monsters the Khaenreans just couldn't do much elemental fuckery full stop. Even Skirk is the result of possibly centuries of extensive effort
Though, that does make me wonder how Surtalogi will be designed if he's ever playable
Maybe they'll just have fun with him and have him randomly use 2 elements with the ability to cycle through them, or causing random elemental reactions if he hits an enemy with a proc on them
Surtalogi 🤝 Skirk
being human nuggets
Surtalogi is basically just a shonen protag and I'm all about that
If he doesn't do overreactive yelling or melodramatic speeches while fighting imma riot
I don’t see why that would leave him exempt tho
And again, Skirk's quest makes me realize how criminally, shamefully underutilized the Traveller is from a gameplay perspective.
I can't believe I"m saying this but take some notes from WuWa, Hoyo
If there is one character you should just consider giving a design review every year and possibly overhauling, its the Traveller. Especially since nobody would give a shit if he got reworked from top to bottom right now because nobody fucking uses any part of Traveller except Pyro and Dendro for "too broke for archon" reasons
He should get neat upgrades throughout the story, he should get new fighting styles for every element, he should get better kits for all elements, he should get the ability to at least hot-swap between 2 elements, and he should have an additional page in the vein of constellations which just keep track of buffs he gets throughout the story. Like the bigger AoE we just used with Skirk
So much potential is being wasted
FGO characters should have more access to their special gear and skills but don’t in gameplay
They can make anyone they want playable but it’s going to be adapted for Genshin’s gameplay mechanics anyways.
It’s all on whether Hoyo wants to or not/think this character will sell enough.
Any indication of a Sinner being playable likely won’t be apparent until 8.x tho
The traveller should be done by having very boring, stereotypical but reliable kits for each elements, and having not having the numbers or utility to ever be great in the endgame content (also, don't allow the hotswap system in domains).
But you'd pretty much want to incentivize your players to make the traveller a staple of your exploration team
8.x more likely
We’re not getting all of Snez in 6.x
So unless they’re changing up their routine even further, it’s more likely Khaenri’ah will have a whole version dedicated to itself after mainland Snez in 7.x
Could be subject to change
He doesn't raise the f2p floor because he doesn't really compete with other characters, But as it stands most travellers have been a waste of dev tim
6.x is widely leaked to be the "fuck it, lets just finish it up so we're all set for the finale" version run
We might not even get cryo traveller
Though, I kinda feel like they gave the game away plot wise. Got a pretty good feeling about where the plot is heading with everything they set up
I mean in all fairness that is because Mihoyo releases 2 kinds of 5s pyros:
DPS's and dogshit
Holy shit actually now I look at the lineup it is literally 6 DPS's on a chronological DPS scale, and then Dehya
Mihoyo please, my soul for some fucking pyro supports
My XL has done enough, let her sleep already
That is true
That changes nothing. Nod Krai is automous yes, but is still part of the Snez region in all the mentions we’ve had for it.
Apples to oranges.
Nod Krai is still acknowledged as a Snez region, divine interventions notwithstanding
Yet no different vision casings nonetheless. Like Gaming and Lan Yan. It’s still acknowledged as Liyue territory.
Overworld acknowledges NK as a Snez region. The implications of that and how it plays into with vision casings has far more to do with the Lunar powers there at work than not.
Nod Krai is geographically a Snez region still just as much as CV to Liyue.
I was never talking about Seven jurisdiction
I disagree, or rather won’t readily agree just yet. This lunar power and its history have been a prevalent topic for the past several months now as well as it placement within Teyvat’s core. Otherwise why would the game repeatedly harp on about how especially unique the state is until now with this power that predates even the elements?
Nod Krai is an automous sub region within Snezhnaya territory, yes, but not necessarily independent of it until the game says otherwise in the patches to come.
I know that internally in the code it is called a Snezh vision, but how certain are we that Childes vision casing isn't just a Fatui-specific casing? It may be that Nod is the actual casing for unaffiliated Snezh people
Sum up of this archon quest:
- Return to the cave.
- Return to the cave you found X person in.
- Go back to the cave.
- Go find X person in the cave.
- Return to the cave you were in.
Better word would be, Snezhaya forced themselves to NodKrai
NodKrai was abandoned by them,so I believe NodKrai does not belong to Snezhaya from political standpoint
NodKrai will be independent in the future,likely
But we will have to see if Columbina will betray Snez for NodKrai or frostmoon
Or at least a voice.
Hmm true, is good for building hype purposes. If not we all gonna suffer a year for her to appear.
Return to the cave.
Return to the cave you found X person in.
Go back to the cave.
Go find X person in the cave.
Dainsleif commits several warcrimes
Return to the cave you were in.
Exactly 😭
Its been soooo long since we’ve seen dainsleif and traveler was so casual about meeting him it was weird
Wasnt the last time we saw him back in sumeru
Again, Dainsleif is officially the Kendrick Lamar of Teyvat
Lol
He outright just states he doesn't really care if shit is a ruse because the opportunity for mass murder is too precious to pass up. That is what you call a dedicated hater.
he isn't following the plots of the Abyss Order to stop them. He is following them for opportunities to put some fools in his spliff and smoke them. The stopping part is just a nice benefit compared to the homicidal bias venting sessions
I didnt remember he was so emotionless to the traveler and at the same time extremely hot headed to the point he keeps helping the abyss every quest yet he hates them the most out of anything
Man was at half mast when he heard that the punching bag he just found couldn't actually die
I do have to say, the main archon questline is very well paced. Meaning the way the Traveller storyline developed. They set up the reveals of the central mystery very well
Though, again, shame it is kinda obvious where the questline is going, what with there being clear indication of the Tsaritsna and the Twin's goals aligning
He is, after all, Teyvat's biggest hater
What do you mean its a mystery.
Her motives are a mystery. Her goal is confronting the Heavenly Principles
it is literally the first the first thing we're ever told about her
She used to be the godess of love, but now she is preparing for a rebelion against Celestia
And it is very, VERY strongly implied that the suppression of Khaenri'ah is what caused her to tilt
Hence she took one of the 5 sinners and a Khaenri'ah captain as her second and third in command immediately after
Isn't Pierro strongly implied to be one of the five?
Nothing is implied about Hroaptatyr because literally nothing is known about him, other than his name being the literal inverse of Pierros current title. It would also make sense, as the infamy of the Sinners happened during the calamity, being respected individuals that nevertheless decided "fuck this". And who would you in the event of a abyssal calamity call the Wise?
That is correct, the guy that got censured for telling you to stop fucking around with abyssal shit
With "The Foul" we also know as a fact that the power shared between the Sinners wasn't some kind of internal project of the dynasty, as "The Foul" was seen as a pariah by the authorities
Another thing that we have to note is that it is pretty much confirmed that he was on a first name basis with Vedrfolnir. By now it is pretty strongly established that anyone who didn't get a ring by Vedrfolnir was warped by the erosion a long time ago. And it's a bit of a stretch to say that Tsaritsna would've been able to carry out abysal manipulation
It is either
- He got a ring by Vedrfolnir
2)Vedrfolnir ain't shit and he just kinda figured it out - Tsaritsna did it through literal deux ex bullshit
I dunno; we have absolutely no lore on 2 of the Sinners; Hroaptatyr and Rerir.
Rerir is literally called the "lunar avenger" in some translations so I'm pretty sure he'll turn up in Nod Krai, possibly as the leader of the Lightkeepers. While Hroaptatyr has no lore, but what we do have is an inexplicably erosion resistant Khaenri'ah who used to be a big deal until his fall of grace, whose current title is Fool instead of Sage, and seems to know a lot about stuff like forbidden knowledge
Catagorically incorrect. Hard lore on the fact that he thought the crimson moon dynastry was dead and buried before he ran into Arle
And we already know that you can simply turn abyssal energy into elemental energy using the Seven Serpent technique
What I mean to say is that Rerir could simply create a fake vision like Venti did and pretend he just suffers from Abyssal corruption from fighting with the Wild Hunt, while using the Seven Serpent Technique to immitate elemental energy
What I mean to say is that hiding this fact is really not that hard
he does if he wants to lead an abyss containment organisation you just rebuked my theory on this basis
....so your earlier point is moot?
That he couldn't be affiliated with the Lightbringers because they are an anti-abyss organisation and he is an abyss powered demi-god who would be accepted anywhere.
Unless he said "Yooo the Abyss fuggin sucks dude look at what it did to me. Squad up with me so we can dunk on the Wild Hunt and prevent what happened to me from happening to you". Again, he can just lie, which would set up some good mystery when dealing with the organisation
It would also mean that there would actually be a decent foil for Columbina/Dottore. Nicole wouldn't want to break the de facto neutrality of the Hexencirkle, and Arle was capable of simply disconnecting us for the server as a flex after holding us back in a 4v1 so I don't think they're gonna have the Traveller roll up and rock Columbina's/Dottores shit. Voynich won't try shit, the Treasure Hunters ain't shit. Varka isn't going to declare war and made that much clear, and I don't think the Frost Fairies will show up as a real aggressive force, more like a defensive third party
They need something that is an actual threat. Something that can rock their shit right back
They are neutral relative to Teyvat politics
How so, they seem to be treated as some kind of natural force whose bullshit you just kinda have to put up with, but isn't outwardly malice or warranting of aggression
I think the plot structure of Nod Krai will be Lightbringers are "our guys" with the Knights and Frost Faeries as supporting parties. Voynich would be a deuteragonist faction acting as information brokers and mcGuffin salesmen, the Wild Hunt acting like a natural disaster, disrupting all parties, and the Fatui will this time again be the out-and-out antagonist party until it gets schismed near the end of the Nod Krai plotline
Lore leaks are bullshit until proven otherwise
Why would you assume that the Fatui isn't the antagonist faction?
It is implied we'll face:
Dottore, Mengele's greatest fanboy and brainwashing enthousiast
Colombina, described by Wanderer and Childe as absolutely unstable and schizoidal
Sandrone, who is described as having a terrible personality and whose sole interaction with the Traveller was most likely a "sorry, my bad" note left with a former pawn she cut the tongue out from and mindbroke
The 3 Fatui who are just seen as completely psychotic and they seem to be forming a bloc this time around
And do a little trolling
I still can't get over how fucking baller that intro was for Dottore
That is just the biggest "you ain't shit" I've ever seen
"Oh there is a guy here who completely derailed the last 2 plots my subordinates set up and is aligned to screw with mine"
"Imma just convince anyone he is the best thing since sliced bread just because I can. Should let him know I mean business"
My brother in christ he is into Mengele-tier human experimentation what do you mean
to weaponize it instead
He framed a man for murder
Just to turn Scara into a misanthrope
Stealing this
he tried to put Nahida into solitary
Neuvi will get a skin.
Recalling this reminds me of how much of a fucking rollercoaster Sumeru was
And recalling that reminds me about how peak the writing of Fontaine was
Honestly, Natlan has been kinda lacking with how hard the previous 2 regions went
The SQ's honestly are pathetic compared with how absurdly good Fontaine SQ's were
Not Sumeru SQ's. Those were dogwater and I've forgotten about almost all of them
But Neuv's, Lyney's, Furina's and Wrio's story quest had no right to be that good
Clorinde quest was hated in the clorinde main community because the appearance of 3 developed characters crushes her development
Source: my discord friend who's a C6 clorinde main
They just didn't hit the emotional highs like Fontaine's did
Arlecchino one was a disaster for traveler fans
Arle was great setup, fantastic launch and terrible landing
I haven't played Emilie and Sigewinne, but it's probably a nothingburger
Half of fontaine's sq is bad
Oh yeah, Emy, Siggy and Clorine were mid at best. It is just Neuv, Lyney, Wrio and Furina that were just uncontested god-tier
Especially Neuv and Furina
Almost all of Natlan's SQ is good, the only one I haven't played is Varesa one
They just beautifully brought forward their tragedyes
Like, the intrigue setup was great, how it developed was great and really made sense for her character; a unique way of blending her uncompromising nature and the genuine love she feels towards her children.
But the battle was just bad. Literally, have it end in ANY OTHER WAY than just DDOSing the traveller
PoF is a trope that will never leave Genshin, it has always been there since the beginning, idk why the hate for it only started in Natlan
Mind you, it's been shoved down through our throat 4 nations before Fontaine, but people still like it on Fontaine
PoF = Power of Friendship
It also just obliterates the setup because the entire point was that she wanted to permit herself an exception by fabricating a circumstance by which she would be pressed and put on the defensive in a way the other children could never hope to replicate. Which is kinda just gone if it turns out she could've booted up her Powershell at any moment and just DDOS her adversaries. She made it clear she was holding back, we weren't shit, and it was never even close.
So we didn't earn the exception she flagrantly handed it to us
And even then Natlan isn't even the most PoF-ey nation, first is inazuma, second is sumeru
The good story quests of Fontaine didn't have that at all.
Honestly, 50% of Fontaine treated the traveller as a bystander/moral support and somehow that just worked out better
Reminding people of the story quality of Inazuma should be a bannable offense
Now this is the problem with what this community wants for their lore, they want the mc to just be a cameraperson, even though the main obj of this game is us, the traveler
I'm getting salty here.
If you said the new AQ is good, then you don't deserve to say that.
I hope Hoyo puts more shine on the mc like the new AQ, while not making the new region shine a bit too much
'A bit too much'
Most character stories aren't well enough written to really work without the traveller. It was just Lyney, Wrio, Neuv and Furina that worked that great.
With the Fontaine AQ we kinda ran into a car already running down the mountain and there wasn't really much we could do to stop it
The only genuinely superb character writing I've seen since then have been Capitano and Mavuika
Whomever is leading the writing at Mihoyo does tragedy and nostalgia really well
Sorry, maybe being from a non-english country, i don't understand the analogy for the last part
It means everything in the plot was already acting on its momentum, and if you tried to stop it you'd just get crushed by it. We weren't altering the plot, we were just uncovering it
Rather than “Power of Friendship”
It’s really more apt that it’s a “Power of Collective/Wills” that’s the recurring theme
In line with what the gnoses constitute and the role of a descender ‘gathering’ these wills
Furina was also just chef's kiss, honestly
Such a fantastic turnaround from a hate-able character to a beloved tragic figure
I never found Furina that hate-able. Even from the start you could always tell sth was “off” about her, which made it more fascinating to see how she was unraveled.
Also, still the best Protag-Archon introduction so far
"I challenge you to a duel"
"OHHH YEAH YOUS BOUT TO BE THE GODESS OF CATCHING THESE HANDS LETS GOOOO"
"OHSHITWAIT"
She was set up as a pretentious blowhard who was running the country into the ground for her own amusement
Event lore humanizes them too you know, but for this year, I don't see more requests about the Natlan film event in Natlan itself to be permanent, people only want Lantern Rite lore to be permanent, even though the Natlan event humanizes the Natlan characters
Everyone called her Fraudina, and in 4.0 and 4.1 was was genuinely just obnoxious in the plot
She was set up as someone who was actually trying to save face for sth she was lacking from the getgo. But that was the point.
The one where Xilonen vents out her frustration on Mavuika
JJK was a mistake
It was clear there was something wrong with her, but it was difficult to believe that the underlying tragedy could absolve her sins.
And then they hit you with the "500 years of pretense and solitude" twist with delivery that would make Shakespear envious
I hope an event that develops Clorinde and another event that develops Natlan characters will appear
They skillfully made you pine for her downfall and then absolutely crushed you for being part of her tragedy
Beyond a 'navia glue' for Clorinde
Beyond the hate for Natlan characters
I don't hate Natlan characters. I just think all of them but Mavuika are kinda bland and tropey
That's why I want a development event for them
I think he meant the other characters than Mavu
Again, Mihoyo is kinda awful in writing happy characters or comical characters. Great at writing tragic characters though
What is wrong with writing a character to be happy without any reason?
Raiden remains a fumble.
Her 500 years of solitude was poorly characterized at best and written off as a prolonged nap at best
And her personality post awakening is just Ayaka, but with a frowning face
An evil character doesn't need a reason to be evil, they can just be evil.
It is difficult to do right, and often results in just a superficially likable character
What about the evil one?
Is also difficult to do right, and will often veer into unintentional comedy or self-sabotage
What sins are there to absolve? The only things you could actually fault her for is silly laws that would get you prosecuted for either eating her cake or bringing out a floating object without a leash in a certain part of the month.
You could perhaps make a point in how she tried to prosecute Lyney for murder, but this wasn’t driven by her doing it out of any bad intent despite the airs she puts up.
She was also as “defensive” as she was in 4.1 bc she had actually exhausted every single resource to find alternative ways to save for some from the prophecy to the point that only her faith was sth she could fall back on. She’s not responsible for the unprecedented loss of lives that happened up to that point at all.
The prevailing narrative at the point of our arrival is that she has been slowly mismanaging fontaine and only seems to be interested in distractions; panem et circenses, and does nothing in the realm of competent governnance
Eh idk. I found folks like Itto and Cyno consistently endearing.
Which as it turns out: was not truly the case
So in hindsight loses a lot of focus/weight
I mean, it was kinda the case
She still did not use her institutional authority with any level of competence. Her rule was still disastrous, even if she was set up from the get go as a strawman
From an every man’s perspective, yes.
But the only real pressing issues Fontaine was having then was synth crimes/smuggling (which you could only do so much against with how crafty they were getting) and living conditions in certain sections of Fontaine like Fleuve Cendre.
Furina is a gril that had to be tossed into Fontaine’s lap but not with the qualifications of being a “good leader” despite how much she was separately trying to help it. Which is also is different from any “sins” she can be held accountable for.
If you want a good true evil character, you first of all need to make them truly intimidating. This is where most writers fumble, because it is very difficult to both write an intimidating foe that is truly cunning, clever and ruthlesss while also writing your story in a way that defeats them. Usually they add in some kind of weird fixation or incompetence that can be exploited
I mean, in all fairness, most people tend to at least become passable at a job they weren't qualified for if they held the position for 5 years.
She had her for 500. You'd expect her to build up some level of competence. If she wasn't extremely mentally ill for most of these 500 years
Basically, Furina's storyline for us, the audience, is this
https://imgflip.com/i/9y5y66
Well, Furina lacked any competent support system too even within her courts. She had to be presented as someone who had her shit together when she actually didn’t. Her full focus had always been on dealing the prophecy besides this. Even with someone like Neuvillete as her “right hand man” he was just an appointed judge/magistrate.
There are some things I would agree one could reasonably hold Furina accountable for, but not entirely. It’s stuff that extends to how flawed the basis of Fontaine’s justice system and policies were already set up at that time.
That were out of Furina’s control, nor could she influence without potentially disastrous results.
What do you guys think?
I haven't played the game in awhile, so idk
Dottore will also appear alongside a 4th harbinger
I thought all harbingers were going to be present since it's the project something
6.0... should we expect a free 5* limited like its little sister games?
That always will be there
Why not?
6.0 COULD have anniversary gifts better than Natlan one
Because everyone has the same character?
Isn't that... what the majority would want?
my man
From Inef weapon lore,sound like we will be collecting 7 moon shards( item, holder) in NodKrai
Inef has one in her body
That was an era that even the most learned poets today could not touch with their lips and tongues. At that time, most of the ancient species with long lifespans were still wild beasts with chaos in their eyes. The master who once ruled the whole world had already used his claws to rub the white floating land in the sky - trying to pursue the king from the outside world to raise the empty moon to exercise the power of circulation on his behalf.
After resurrection, she always felt that the trivial memories of that time were like the lost wisdom of the past. Not very real, just a thought that flashed in a trance. She once followed the master of the light flame to visit the jade thrones of the wills living in the moon on three planes. At that time, the throne was empty, the sky was cast in a haze, and the dragon masters acted as they pleased. The master of the light flame once hoped to find the traces of the black king who had disappeared from them, but the answer he got was only the three palaces, which turned into three layers of silence. Since then, even if the snowfields of thousands of miles turned into scorched earth and the Flame Mountain was frozen by extreme cold, they never spoke again, or they couldn't. Yes, that was the era when three was still three. The plunderers above the sky took their oath to make the world run instead of the original creator, but unfortunately, when the king who was stained by the dark world returned, he was furious. Because of this, when the master of the light responded to the call of the black king and woke up from his suspended death, he cut off the lords and the regent from exploring the starry sky and simulating the great miracle of moon creation. But did the goddesses of the jade crown really betray the kingdom of the dragonborn so easily? Unfortunately, those who can give the answer did not survive the war. "These are the scenes I can vaguely remember." Facing the girl who reshaped her body and made this weapon for her, she said so. But the girl was much smarter than expected, and because of this smartness, she put away her inquiring look.
After that, it was her own secret. On the day when the circumference of the sky was broken, the jade plate fell.
All the dragons cheered cruelly for the death of the moon that had betrayed them, but she remembered,
the silent silhouettes in the
At this time, the cavity in the center of the rotating blade mechanism,
where no one else knows, has been preserved to this day. palace of the universe, and quietly hid a piece of the moon debris that fell in front of her.
Only CN is available so the translation is bad
Master of Light is Pyro Sovereign
Original Creator is PO
Tldr for some of these
Ineffa has gone to the Moons. With Xiuhcoatl.
The Dragons tried to make their own moon.
They were lifting it past the firmanent
Ineffa has a small piece of the moon inside her core.
The dragons were happy when the 3 moons fell cause they betrayed them.

If the moons were necessary for the world to run then it make sense
So NodKrai will make their own mini moon with Columbina as the controller 
Hm,I think fake sky is just his power, similar to his barrier
I think so,other continent wasn't affected for some reason
So something happened to electro authority/throne
So ei also technically kind of succeed in fighting against Celestia?
Like Focalor
But the vision hunt was because she is against Celestia
So we will go to the real mare Jivari in another year

I guess it is understandable
put it in NodKrai patch will be more hype
Also the possibility of Enjou playable 
The April fool post might not be a joke 
Mavuika still doesn't have her second story quest so the real mare jivari might happen next time with her quest
Ineffa weapon en version is out on homdgcat some interesting stuff there
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The dragon king before leaving teyvat created the three moons and gave them duty to guide the cycle of teyvat in his stead
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some time later pyro sovereign along with ineffa goes to these 3 lunar thrones to ask about the whereabouts of Vinster king aka Nibelung but the moon sisters don't respond
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Finally when Nibelung returns and start war of vengeance the moon sisters become the casualties and the dragons thinking they betrayed them celebrate their death
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some fragments of these moon got hidden then one of which is inside ineffa
Also if this vinster king is the same as khanerrian one then that also means irmin is directly related to Nibelung
Which should explain why the previous dynasty that worshiped crimson moon got annihilated by irmin cause he hates the moon who betrayed him..
It's an assumption for now that they indeed betrayed the dragons
As we know when pyro sovereign visited the three jade thrones none responded
The moon goddesses silence was assumed as betrayal by the dragons
It's likely they didn't betray or maybe they did we'll have to wait for further lore revelation
With the new lore drop, I'll once again double down:
Pierro is Hroptatyr. With his title of "Fool" being a disavowal of the title "The Wise" that Khaenrians bestowed upon him
I'm also pretty certain that we see him with the very first Delusion, implying the Delusions essentially work on the principles of the Seven Serpent art. That or he just carried a big glowy cyan stone on him during the fall
The Foul was a detested, crippled outcast who mostly spend his time dabbing on the greatest warriors in Irmin's court, while the Visionary is explicitly said to be his prisoner and to have been blinded in both eyes at Irmins command. The only Sinner we know for a fact had a good relation with the king was Rhinnedotir. As far as their motives are concerned, the extrapolation that all sinners are chasing perfection is unnecessary. Skirk was only referencing 3 of them and it were most likely the 3 whose pasts have already been mostly uncovered, with all 3 of them becoming some kind of deific figure respectively (Rhinnedotir usurping a shade, the Visionary becoming a force of nature that is apperantly capable of producing prophesies anywhere he pleases, and the Foul becoming essentially a god of martial prowess, conquering the space between worlds for the hell of it).
The only thing we explicitly know is true about all the Sinners is that they eventually banded together with Dainsleif to stop the king, and that all but Dainsleif abandoned their goal to rescue Khaenri'ah instead taking up new objectives upon getting and divvying up the power of the Abyss, which caused Ronova to come down and curse them. which would also explain Pierro being at the scene when she touches down.
Is it such a stretch that upon fully understanding the corruptive force that his civilization had been irresponsibly proliferating, Pierro just wrote off any chance to still save Khaenri'ah and just moved on to getting his revenge on the Heavenly Principles. Is it such a stretch either to state that Delusions are essentially just Seven-Shifted Serpent devices that are powered with godly remains. Yes, Pierro hates the Abyss because its power saw him fall from grace and his nation eventually destroyed, but I don't feel like that should be a compelling enough argument on its own to prevent him from using it as a tool
Another very important plot detail to keep in mind;
There would presently be zero cause for any antipathy between Dainsleif and the Fatui. Which is a problem for when plotlines all converge, narratively speaking
Narratively speaking, the way the Fatui plotline is being directed would see there be a compelling argument for us to side with the Tsaritsna. So we need a narrative counterweight, and its pretty clear who that will be. This was strongly implied with the very first story trailer
So what reason would Dainsleif have to oppose the Fatui, the ones rebelling against the force that destroyed his home country? A very easy and obvious way to generate the conflict would be to make the second in command of the faction someone he has completely disavowed
I for one think it would be a great narrative flourish for Dainsleif to reveal that the Fatui, for all their talk of being against the Abyss, actually use abyssal energies as a vital part of their military capabilities
Again, narratively it works out the best if these 2 had some kind of volatile history
My dude, the Sinners cannot die. We literally just had a story quest about Dainsleif crashing out and packing up a former Khaenri'an a hundred times
And again, narratively speaking that doesn't really work. Because eventually we'll have to tie Dainsleif, the Twin, the Shades and the Tsaritsa together in a way that is satisfying. And that simply works better if you give all parties a history with one another
Currently the missing link is Dain and the Fatui
That is what I'm saying; overarching plotlines are bound to converge
i mean we don't know what project stuzha is do we
It could be what they think it is
yeah but that's dottore
stuzha is tsaritsa
Each harbinger has their own agenda, doesn't mean it aligns with the cryo archon's
where do the gnosis tie in then?
Hmm
what if third? Second? Descender reincarnation
since the gnosis was made from them
huh
true she could end up having a serving battle with HP and win with her insane aura
hmm
too bad it's not one piece of media but italian theatre, or I'd actually consume it
Just for genshin impact lore
insane to think about
what
context
isn't Remus the founder of rome
oh damn even mirrors real remus
kind of
Damn i forgot about it
All i know is there are multiple versions of how he died
significant as in lore?
After arriving back in the area of the seven hills, they disagreed about the hill upon which to build. Romulus preferred the Palatine Hill, above the Lupercal; Remus preferred the Aventine Hill. When they could not resolve the dispute, they agreed to seek the gods' approval through a contest of augury. Remus saw 6 auspicious birds, but Romulus saw 12 and claimed to have won divine approval. They disputed the result; Remus insulted Romulus' new city and was killed, either by Romulus or by one of his supporters
omg you read pjo?
truly the grecoroman introduction to kids worldwide
should've done so earlier
i labored through after
well you got to the point where it starts getting good
apollo is the only dull narrator
Rest is good
I think it's his being a god
He feels detached
Which is excellent writing if it was intentional
But could've been made interesting for readers
Lmao
He did start introducing a bit mature ™ topics but
middle school series
what kind of media consumer are you
Magnus was amazing
do you consume only the media, media + art, or also go to fanfiction
i wanna reread artemis fowl
i read it when i was kid so i wanna re read and see exactly how much i actually understood back then
You have excellent taste
what
why couldn't it be my school
(mine had narnia)
I still haven't read Narnia
No no, i had a compulsory narnia assignment
And a decade later, i still haven't read it
i wanna read lotr
Well it was only the first book but
I don't remember it's name 
I tried reading game of thrones
it was too much for my baby brain
after that i never found book 1 in the library again
4 years, the entirety of covid, 2 libraries, and got#1 was ALWAYS issued to someone else
It was before it 💔
I did dabble around fan theories in pjo fandom, but i truly got into theorising for genshin and once upon a broken heart, i think
I got semi popular on Tumblr
Then abandoned account
It's a trilogy
Caraval sequel?
it's a rofan, from Stephanie Garber
too long i just get tired thinking of that long a pdf
(i have read three 700k word fanfics back to back)
Oh romance fantasy
oh hey can you
gimme
star wars or star trek?
it's not SUPER popular like throne of glass or The folk of the air, but it's popular on insta too
One sec
Okay mom called me 
Anyways which one of them has more filler/slower scenes?
I wanna watch, but i can never decide which one
Oookkaayyy you are decidedly not in the romance/fantasy genre
because those two are literally THE most popular ones
You should read the folk of the air actually
It's less romance more fantasy politics
brilliant trilogy
rip
Oh
Right
It's a trilogy with a sequel that's a duology
Well i was trying to intrest you into a pjo x marvel percy/bucky crossover
That doesn't disrespect percabeth
sadge
the fic is real good
No, as in making either of them jealous exes (usually annie), or saying percabeth did nothing for each other, or like ruining their entire dynamic outside of their relationship etcetc
shipping with others isn't a disrespect to the ship ofc
Yeah
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
start from the second one, that's the one that was posted firdt
or you could go in chronological order
NodKrai expansions:
6.0, Nasha Town, Xixi Island
6.1, Fatui and Frostmoon Scions Garrison
6.2, Hexenzirkel Nod-Krai Branch
6.3, Blackcliff Forge
6.4, Mount Manthosos and Flower of Teyvat
6.5, Mondstadt Harbor and Dandelion Sea
6.6, Ancient Seelie City Hyperborea https://t.co/YaMzBNOTt1
6.4: Columbina's scene...?
I mean, Columbina's scene has flowers and I thought it would be 6.4
Also, The Sea of Flowers At The End, when does this thing will show up
I'm hoping it's the travail place
Or maybe make it like Frieren
New area every patch? Definitely questionable leak...
Or are they really going hsr Amphoreus route
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/s/scIKJHrJF4
eye twitch what.
What do they mean another lol, Istaroth is Istaroth
I think they mean that Istaroth is not what people said, Venti, it could be entirely someone else
It's sus, but it's true, it's just that the order is not what it said
If you're interested on who has Miyano voiced over, go to #・anime
Tsaritsa's back lol
Oh fuck, Mare Jivari.
What does spice level meannnnn
Be ready for FatuiHQ's roar.
Lol
So columbina will be the 5th must have support character
Im her fan but never the fatui so I could not careless if she is basically ayaka 2 but more reliable
Also, why is lumine spice so high
She kinda flirt with a married woman-
Who was that
I think spice just mean affection tbh
It is romance for outsider but not family member
I forgor 💀 it was through my X timeline
well fuck
mamoru miyano?
PLEASE be varka my spending plans cannot afford another character 😭
we already heard Varka and it's Sugita Tomokazu
oh no
ohh noooo 6.x is helllll
If the recent story leak and the info about Delusions working on the principles of the Seven Shifting Serpents is true I'm once again doubling down on "The Jester used to be the Wise". And he really fell out of favor because of his alarmism; which is why he took the title of "Jester"; the only man who dares to say truths to the king within his court
But it's pretty obvious that Pierro wasn't some kind of fuckup but instead the man who figured out how create syntethic copies of visions using the Abyss
What if Columbina's skill can give us freemogems hehe
Some leak said her skill name would be "song of the welkin moon" will she be the first music based character 
She hum in every scene
Oh forgot about her
also technically xilonen
idk blasting sounds in her ult wiith a dj table screams pretty music to me
-Hydro
-Polearm user
-Strong off-field Hydro application
Idk why but the mental image I got from reading these words in particular is a Hydro xiangling
NodKrai look so grey,I guess it make sense because it is from the 4th moon
I am preferring to the leak ||the core is from dragon authority/archon mastery while the shell is part of their soul,the vision case look different probably because their soul are attached to a certain region||
I was gonna post in lore basement but eh
Isn't vision related to souls part still a blur... It has something to do with soul but how it's still not clear no?
At least that's what I get from ineffa story moon wheel
Also it mentions niflheim is that supposed to be pre cursor to khaneriah...
Niflheim it's the place where moon wheel was created supposedly
Probably a precursor civilisation to khaneriah if I had to guess
Or maybe precursor to nod krai and not khaneriah
Actually nod krai makes more sense
The moon worshipper would have something to do with moon wheel...makes sense
Ineffa moon wheel story
The same place where vision being created from soul stuff is mentioned
Apparently people of niflheim were also researching wishes
Yeah related to moon worshipper as I said
Precursor to nodkrai
"Moon Wheel" (one of Niflheim's ritual items — or, to be more accurate, a plaything given by the traitors to their human followers, allowing them to communicate)
This statement strikes me though
Sounds like dragons who lived in niflheim created moon wheel and then gave them to their human subjects so they can communicate
Which would make sense why the word traitor is used
So it looks like niflheim was inhabitated by dragons at the time
Yeah could be although the one saying all this is also a traitors and a dragon so 
So visions are supposedly made from stuff of souls and somehow fixed to the wishes while also borrowing from the thrones authority...
So I guess anytime a human with ambition subconsciously decides to trade part of their souls? they manifest the vision then
Or something along the line I think
From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift. Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still.
The gift Gods receive is now I think the souls of the humans who wished for vision
So humans exchange part of their soul and archons being duty bound give their part of authority as vision to humans
is this real wtf
Lvl 30 artifact 
Oh,it is resin not artifact,what was I thinking
Rerir is counter/opposite of which shade again
This make it even more clear Hexenzirkel is like HP friend
Dam,I wonder if he will be the weekly, Dottore weekly 100% is for later(Irminsul burning attempt)
The banner?
That doesn't look like a tcg card though
Are they? The style are way too different
I will check support card
Hmm,the design was strange to me
The frame I mean
I heard these are from IT new difficulty

This place look like where Bina was
She might be inside that thing
HUHHHHHHH
That’s columbina tho
Perhaps
If you put this in natlan perspective
Columbina is mavuika
Alice is skirk
Rerir ,a moon eater support a moon goddess?
This is sort of confirmed internally
rerir might be the region's playable enemy / harbinger role
Sinners are shade level
Does that mean gold is playable???
Or well no cause she’s a sinner shade hexenzirkel member
What faction would she even be
Dain ain’t a sinner
surtalogi literally just left the planet because he's so strong
rhinedottir ate a shade
If I’d rank them I’d say
1: Gold
2: Surtalogi
3: vedrfolnir
Rhinedottirs the strongest cause she was a hexenzirkel member so she alr had archon levels of strength
Then split the abyss power
Then also became a shade
Anyway, this is just the same as Dottore during Sumeru,his playability are still unknown but high chance he won't be playable, atleast the original body
But Bina is leaked to be a support herself so
Honey her dedicated support is durin
Durin is big xiangling
So a hydro unit
Who as a person from nod krai
Specialized in hydro based reactions
Best reaction for hydro units is vape
Lunar vape for her
Who’s durin
Big xiangling
Considering new lunar reaction,I can't imagine her being generic vaporize dps
Ragebait goes hard
Source???
Alice is the new pyro Dps
He doesn’t need to trigger it
Columbina will
Well according to latest leaks and hoyos internal database
The best units of 6.x are columbina and Alice
Anyway,Bina have to be a support who enable all lunar reaction, since all lunar so far need hydro
Both with the highest Dps potential
She could be lunar reaction buffer
Second best are durin and Nicole great supports
Durin for bina and Nicole for Alice
Third are flins, lauma, Nefer and varka
Well,if she buff lunar reaction,she also buff her own dmg overall
Maybe cause they aren’t on their level?
Rerir could be varesa level in dmg
Still durin and Nicole are the xilonen/escoffier of the region
Rerir could be like Citlali
No thanks
But still according to the very first roadmap
No more
No more because it was the only time
Also mondstadt units could buff lunar dmg
We have 3
MONDstadt
Literally moon city
I do believe mondstadt units could utilize lunar reactions or moon power somehow
Varkas going for the moon
Mondstadt being their nations name
Dam,you must not use Internet a lot during that time then, because even the event was made for Mavuika and Citlali
That event namecard
Varka could be anemo swirl DPS,lunar version but then again,they have to somehow explain how the fuck he can use moon power
There’s also the theory that the second batch of units rely on cryo
Alice w Nicole for melt
And for varka it’s js my theory cause he represents boreas who’s cryo and anemo
And snezhnayas old name was hyperborea
lore enjoyers rn
The third namecard is interesting,so I guess it does have a purpose
Definitely will use the first namecard

No shots of world bosses?

You can ask here but since I don't know Nahida weapon passive I can't answer
TC channel and this is fine,not against the rule
Hm, it is not bad but lauma signature give more EM and increase dmg from bloom and others
so its an okay alternative
Yes
i just wanted to ask if this is real? does anyone know
if anyone answers please tag me
holy tsundere
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If you are what you eat, then if you eat someone's soul, do you become them? And if so... then what exactly IS a soul? I'm no philosopher, but I think I have an idea of what a soul in Teyvat is...
Hint: they kinda told us back in...
Yes
Ye
No
Artificial moon?
Could you show
Also I think it is still in progress
Probably why they are harnessing Bina statue
Also about the part where they said the fatui pull down the moon in 5.8,what happened, because nothing really changed
Oh thsi
Fatui is repeating what the dragon tried
I was thinking how they got the moon fragment but then again,the island itself were created from the dragon artificial moon
@ashen ocean whos that r______r and what's the myth behind them??
Yh first time i hear ab them
Oh yeah how could i forget 
Racher of solnari one of the 5 sinners
Ohh
Honestly, i doubt we'll get any of the 5 sinners as playable units
Would be nice then
His ||npc model is likely just a base for his future boss fight||
Look like deathbringer in hzd
I forgot this was spoiler channel,so there was no need to spoiler tag

that's cool tbh...
It's interesting how moon disk are now introduced as lore piece for existence of lunar reactions
Also interesting is the fact that PO created not one but three different power sources for his continued ruling over teyvat...
Gnosis
I mean that Rerir will have a similar design
Yeah although vision also take some parts of archon authority too
Appearing as an npc,in armor or whatever
The divine throne which sealed sovereign authority take note and take the archon elemental mastery and gave it to someone
Although one thing I'll say
We saw practical implementation for both moon disk and vision but for gnosis we still don't see it's proper usage..
The archon just kept it besides them and never used it's power as whole
The shell is determined by where they think it is their home
Yeah I meant that vision used part of archon or more accurately thrones authority to channel the elemental power and in exchange the humans gave away part of their soul
Huh I forgot all that stuff then lol
It's still a mystery how vision tie up to the constellation and fate system though because ineffa character story didn't fully reveal stuff
Just as with the ritual items of the north, this "Vision" is formed from the stuff of the soul. Theoretically speaking (...) is fixed through wishes, thereby borrowing (...) to call forth elemental power...
Is this why Visions have recently been appearing alongside human wishes?
Here ritual item is moon disk
Also see how vision being fixed to wish system is not properly written?
They're not telling the full picture yet
Borrowing....to call forth elemental power
I think we can fill this gap a bit though
Because we know vision takes archon authority so borrowing is here for archon authority
Yeah her moon disk story
Right so human give soul + archon give elemental authority+ mapping the fate of human to teyvat constellation
That's just her race
Her people had fins behind their backs
I don't think she's related to dragons
It's just that her people had special affinity with abyss and thats exactly why they were killed
Skirk survived and mastered the abyssal powers
Yeah
It's because dragons are light realm creatures and since everything PO created was using the dragon creation as foundation you get teyvat being fucked by abyss just like dragon get fucked too
I want to see fae lore more now
They're the only one left without substantial info
Something tells me that fae ARE the Nephilim race
"Actually, that shade symbolizes the dominant race of this world, the Nephilim. They were the children of gods and humans, and so their blood, too, was the conflux between the red blood of humanity and golden, divine blood"
Something tells me this God is just Angels and humans are the one from golden city
Yeah exactly
Most probably the moon scions are the descendants of original fae
Original fae were frozen by PO but who knows maybe some survived and fled
And they could be saved by moon sisters and that's why they worship them
i havent finnish the story but i need spoilers why bennet's cons are on mare jivari
Moon sisters died later when nibelung returned
They were definitely alive during the fall of golden city
How else would they help the survivors then
Okay two things here
- golden city was destroyed before Nibelung arrived and the word used here was blue crystal spikes this could be or could not be divine nails
- moon sisters only died during war of vengeance which happened after the golden city fell and seelie got cursed
Where is this 30 days though I don't remember
It's from wiki right?
Let see the source then wait a sec
Okay got the source
the ancestor of the seelie met a traveler from afar, with whom they swore an oath of union witnessed by the three sisters of the Lunar Palace. Just thirty days later, a sudden disaster struck. The seelie and their lover fled into exile as the world collapsed around them, fleeing until the terrible calamity caught up with and seized them. Their cruel punishment was to be separated from each other for eternity and to have their memories wiped without a trace.
So here the thing the disaster mention here is no where told that it's nibelung
This disaster as we know is now that it's the rebelion and it's aftermath
Aka the destruction of golden city and PO cursing angels
It's not mention in the source though
Read volume 4
This is the source
Yeah see how it's controversial? This is old lore you can't take it at face value especially when new lore contradict it
A lot in before sun and moon also doesn't make sense anymore
It's like half truth
The star of dawnbreak the one who moon sisters loved could mean nibelung since he created them
And then the disaster that struck them could be the arrival of PO
Who took control of them
As I said new lore reveals new info
Ineffa weapon lore and finale of deep are more accurate than older lore
Hmm
30 day things dont make sense...
-
nibelung created the moon sisters and left teyvat before the arrival of PO , this is confirmed in ineffa weapon lore
-
when PO arrived he took control of moon sisters and faught the 7 sovereign
This fight took 40 days acc to before sun and moon and then after their defeat another 400 years took for transforming teyvat
Then started the unified civilization -
we all know again that it's towards the end of unified civilization that nibelung arrived and began war of vengeance
Golden city existed within unified civilization and it's fall is also not because of nibelung but PO again this we know
And it's only after fall of golden city that angles were cursed
So it makes sense that only after this nibelung arrives and begin war of vengeance which led to destruction of rest of unified civilization like enkanomiya
And again using ineffa weapon lore it's only after war of vengeance begin that moon sisters dies
@ashen ocean nibelung arriving 30 days after he left just doesn't make sense
Unless you were talking about something else and I just didn't get it then I apologize 
My only issue is that okay tell me something
nibelung returns coincide with destruction of unified civilization correct?
Before sun and moon
It can't because voyager rebellion resulted in destruction of golden city by PO
Unified civilization got destroyed by abyss brought by nibelung
Two different things
Golden city was not destroyed by nibelung
So far no lore mention as such
Our seelie rebellon have two sources I think
- flower of paradise lost
- finale of deep
I agree that nibelung war and voyager rebellion happened close to each other
I'm just of the opinion that rebellion happened and it's aftermath happened and only then nibelung arrived and not before golden city got destroyed
I mean that's how final of deep tells it so can't do much about it
Look voyager is called a scribe right?
Maybe he just wasn't that powerful 
In fact it doesn't mention nibelung return at all
Somehow nibelung return and his war and voyager rebellion just don't have accurate timeline so far
Don't remember much there
Maybe think of this way
the curse on angels was that they could no lo her fall in love or look into the eyes of others otherwise they would turn into seelies
Maybe after golden ciry got destroyed and angels got cursed not every angel turned to seelie
After all not every angel fell in love
Exiled not turned to seelie
Curse only takes effect if they fall in love
Now you know why goddess of flowers rejected deshret lol
I guess when they reveal the real identity of 2nd and 3rd descender only them we'll know the proper timeline cause right now think are messy
More like how rebellion is connected with nibelung return
man... || bennett lore is sick ||
Is this gonna be used to shot down fatui moon
That does not look big enough
Really hope they're gonna be releasing new area every update then
Yeah if map is going to be smaller than previous region then it should be that we get new areas every region as compensation
So Venti met Istaroth in Temple of Time and she gave him a fragment of her power,he later used that power to blow Mare Jivari off the timeline to prevent the corruption spreading out. Which led to many stories about it, Istaroth really is that powerful to just cut a land off its own timeline
Bakunawa not being under control may be because she took the consciousness of overpower beast 
Yeah,it ate part of Rhinedottir
The paper
When you investigate the hut
Alr
I think it is her art of Khemia, if Elynas statement is true that he was floating in the darkness until Rhinedottir bring him to life then Bakunawa might be the same,it is just that he is too over powerful unlike Elynas
With authority of Life she wouldn't need to use abyss to create life
Also that is already against the Celestia rule
still what does he mean by "need the power of Bakunawa to find the real Mare Jivari"
Are we gonna come back there and absorb Bakunawa or something 
Good thing she foreshadowed Nicole will explain to us
Wait,I meant Venti
Yeah,he said he doesn't know but stated someone else will tell us
I don't think any of the Sinners know what is going tbh
I get the feeling Furina sq2 has snth to do w new focalors tarot card
I mean out of all archons they chose her
Yup
The tarot card is probably hoyo way of telling the lore of the past like how they promised for NodKrai
With new information for lore enthusiasts who already know
What is the description
Are frostmmoon scions also fae people? Or they're different somehow?
So event weapon talk about secret Grove where the first angle still resides
Wonder if we get to see her in 6.0 then or this area would be locked for future then..
Translation are rough man
I'll wait for official release...
Already got burned by "Vinster King" which turned out to be translation error and official version had no such word 
Truly a shame we didn't get venti mavuika interaction 
Venti zhongli forever I guess no other archon allowed 
Oh I only completed main story there wasn't any
Was there optional dialogue or something I missed..
I didn't start any world quest
I'll see later then
I did complete the main quest all 4 basically
Venti talking about "time" was interesting
So simulanka mirroring teyvat is indeed more and more true now
Venti basically took out the entire mare jivari off the "main story" and put it elsewhere
I actually didn't do mare jivari quest yet
Also according to venti mavuika has the power to seperate space basically similar to asmoday?
And venti has the power to manipulate history memories just like istaroth
Mavuika opened the space to mare jivari where Bennett parents were stuck
And venti grabbed their memories and souls back to the world
Yeah lite version of shades powers basically
Yes because venti had cut off mare jivari 500 years ago from the mainland space dimension
I'll do it a bit later and get back to you here then
I mean in a way we already saw those red cubes of asmoday right? They're basically all seperate space dimension
Mavuika basically just opened the "door" To enter one dimension from another
alright I'll come back later
Where do you find the quest though?
Tete isle?
Alright 
A Turkish girl appears in a Finland mission, i'm not gonna lie
Hint: she is a seller of all sorts of things
Dori is a Turkish stereotype, at least that is what people complaining about seeing all sorts of bad stereotypes of Turkish on her
Mr. Worldwide. Mr. Worldwide Mr. Worldwide Mr. Worldwide. or... Ms. Worldwide?
If Childe is Mr. Worldwide for his trip to various nations, then Dori is Ms. Worldwide for her connections
wtf did rhinedottir do to make bakunawa..
do we actually know bakunawa is one of her creations?
or could it just be something truly ancient that she revived or something
iirc it was announced somewhere that it is
Rhinedottir's name is from what country if we can trace it?
rhinedottir after her creation is maybe just a slight smidge too unholy
yeah wiki also says it
Because I just thought something funny about it
i didn't do quest yet i don't actually know
A Scandinavian girl makes a German clay human and dragon, the ancestor of French monsters, and now, a SE Asia monster lol
why do rhinedottirs creations have a tendency to be harmful
Oh, and also ate a demon's heart
albedo is the only one i can think of that didn't do damage
Don't forget durin 1.0
There, I changed it
HE WHAT
Oh so greek god
true traveler
How does one || transcend the authority of life ||
what the fuck
Okay i need to do this quest what the fyck
I do wonder, is there a Rhinedottir's creation in Sumeru and Inazuma?
Probably yes in inazuma
we should make bakunawa our hulk when we fight against po/shades
That's the point
hulk is stronger
well not against thanos but who cares about thanos
live footage of bakunawa and rhinedottir having a conversation
That's not the movie we have a hulk came from
I played that yeah
I just didnt do enjoy quest yet
Damn tf
Wait that means we get more bakunawa lore when real mare jiwari time
!!!!!
im gonna soon
the new area was good enough that i did all of it in like 4 days
i never do that anymore

i have almost all of the natlan volcano inside area unexplored
wait
you mean it was more of a symbiosis thing with them?
i like the area from a fly-around-randomly stance, but not the puzzles
my favourite parts to explore are oculi because they're not puzzles
when i have to stop and think about rando mechanics i find it draining
what kind of weird personality is durin even gonna have
shy kid + evil dragon
i didnt get that at all
rhinedottir seems to be firmly in the driver's seat
but naberius still acting as part of her subconscious, with limited authority on what's ok
the unusually long pause when rhinedottir wants to literally usurp god is so funny
naberius is like BRUH
rhinedottir is then like.........ok fine i was just kidding
In the council of gods, no mortal voice is ever heard.
And thus was the fate of the world arbitrarily determined.
We know that such is the way of the world.
But do the gods act out of contempt...
Or have they at some hour begun to act out of fear?
VA:
"Ruler of Death" Ronova — Aiden Dawn
"Gold" Rhinedottir — Ivy Dupler
"Ruler of Life" Naber...
this look is so funny
"but mom it's MY turn as the heavenly principles!"

it's less control and more failsafe
we know rhinedottir can use her powers freely
naberius nags her at the start when rhinedottir uses her powers to kill life randomly
which means naberius did not stop her from using her powers that way before it happened
yeah
but it means that rhinedottir can do as she wishes with them, only getting verbal reprimands afterwards
however
whhen rhine literally thinks about USURPING GOD
yes
eating things gives knowledge and power yes
specifically eating god things
consecrated beast etc
i saw the ashikai video on the subject and uh...it has a lot of good info
mfw the emergency food joke about paimon ends up being how traveler ascends to the position of the heavenly principles 7 years later
would be hell of a payoff tbh
if paimon sacrifices herself at a moment when the traveler is about to die
to supercharge them
NAHHHHHH
PLSSS TELL ME NO ONE MISSED WHAT BARESA SAID
WHEN SHE WAS BETWEEN MAVUIKA AND XILONEN
AND MAVUIKA SAID THE WEATHERS HOT
SHE BLUSHED AND SAID HOT AS A VOLCANO
IJBOL
@ashen ocean alright did the quest finally
Ngl it didn't really answer the question about timeline...
We still don't know why mare disappeared 20 years ago...
Venti says he blew mare jivari off the timeline to prevent further corruption by abyss 500 years ago..
But then we still dont know why wanderer troupe members got into mare jivari 1000 years ago... Why did mare appeared 1000 years ago then...
And while they did tell that abyss can cause temporal disruption is it really just that simple?
Oh and I guess enjou was the lawawalker all along
A certain future NodKrai character will tell us why mare disappeared
Huh is that in leaks somewhere then? Although don't spoil for me
Venti said it
Not directly but he suggested someone else will tell us
Which I suspect either Alice or Nicoles
Yeah he did tell us someone will tell us in future
Didn't connect it with nod krai then
They did say mare jivari is not over so
Maybe when future expansion happens then we'll see
Although next time I hope is fully voiced
Seeing ororon side quest getting voiced but not world quest was...
I only connect it to NodKrai because of Hexenzirkel in NodKrai
At least we got venessa tribe lore
That could also be true
But he has the same dialogue that was on lawawalker and the same flower he gave to traveler so I still think he's more likely lawawalker who maybe got some abyss corruption
Like lawawalker was also a scholar
Who wondered and disappeared when he went to mare jivari
According to lawawalker lore he wondered 100 years after his disappeared into mare jivari
But that is just legend so most probably half truth
The thing with bakunawa is that we're told he has otherworldly abyssal powers beyond the scope of gold's other creation
This power causes temporal distortion that's why time is so fucked in mare jivari
And we don't know what abyss truly is so far
Pyro archons also created that space where we found that throne to enter that area with that one fully grown part of bakunawa
Apparently they made it to contain the various parts of bakunawa so that even if he regrows he can't enter mainland natlan
Sanhaj incribed phlogiston ritual inside tenoc body so when tenoc got ate up by bakunawa it allowed sanhaj to create mini night kingdom inside it's belly
Then tenoc's spirit and Lord of the night explode it into pieces from inside
But the power used allowed for some time to not let these pieces grow again
But after 500 years as we can see some pieces have begun to grow again into fully bakunawa again
At least we defeated one but here maybe others wo still remain
Also it was just one space we entered where a part of bakunawa had grown enough
True mare jivari is till somewhere else
Do you think they're going to continue this in nod krai with world quest format or we'll get seperate main story around it
True
Although I doubt true mare jivari is inside it's belly
It already exploded into pieces even if those pieces regrow they'll still be within mare jivari itself
Like bakunawa exist within mare jivari not the other way around
And the entire mare jivari was cut off from the time by venti 500 years ago
It's more like bakunawa is causing temporal disruption and making the place around itself get lost within timeline on top of venti doing his thing
So you need bakunawa power to find that time where mare keeps vanishing or something
Which I think enjou did before he left us
Yeah he's a scholar and finding the secret to bending time itself is worth it for him
I doubt it
The way his character is presented it's like he just wants his purpose back which he forgot or something
He looks more similar to that one guy I forgot the name from elynas quest
Rene friend
Yeah exactly jacob
Similar to jacob enjou also sounds like he has his own personal goal
Like I don't think he wants to be part of any group so far he works for himself at least that's what I think anyway
He is a scholar after all
We'll see i guess but just the way they've presented his character so far seems like he just wants to do his own thing
Is there any lore about who the king was that banished the people of tenoczitoc or something?
Or is that irrelevant info
Wait was it ochkan?
Enjou says there was a king who battled abyss I assume this is xbal
Then he says that the king who succeeded him was the one who banished tenoc people
Ochkan was the one who succeeded xbal
Hmm..
Then one group aka venessa and her people fled to mondstad and other went to mare jivari
Yeah it's most probably ochkan
Every stupid problem was his doing 
Yeah

They added playable character into world quest for first time
I'm assuming this is what devs talked about
And future world quest would be similar
Although they should add voiced lines too while they're at it
Actually makes the world quest feel like it's part of the main story and not just some isolated lore dump
Yeah that's what got me 
I liked both the direction they've taken for main quest as well as world quest this patch
Hope they continue this for nod krai and don't just abandon it mid way
5 star character quest will get absorbed into main quest
And 4 star can always get anecdot
Although I still want them to do at least some seperate character quest too.. Not every character will have their plot merged with main story
maybe they'll really make it like amphoreus then
Similar to ineffa quest where main story was combined with character quests basically
Also the main story spans entire update cycle
So the main plot of amphoreus that started in 3.0 will end in 3.7
Leaks say we're getting both actually
they might add those stories into interludes or something
all i know is nod krai "story" is like hsr and that the area itself is small so it'll be peppered with other region expansions
Venti talking about "time" and how she started writing the "story" of teyvat...
If that isn't a subtle confirmation of simulanka mirroring teyvat I don't know what else is 
It still doesn’t defy death especially when it can be killed and sealed,also Hoyo is not going to make a super overpower entity without some counter 
It think it is just not affected by the rule
But it can still die, experience time and so on
Also,it respawn every 3 days
You get a new note everytime
It stuck at 1 hp this time
I think it is possible traveler will put an end to this monster, similar to how traveler soul fragment penetrates skirk abyss shield and weakened her by a lot
It is just that Traveler have no way of using such power 
My 14th pause to rest. I don't know whether it's day or night. There's no wind.
I thought I was going to die. The monster ate my left hand and chunked out my lower back. My medical supplies, I dropped Archon-knows-where, so there was no treating my wounds either...
But today, as it turns out, was my lucky day. I didn't expect to meet a man here. He calls himself Nocht, and he used a flower that blossomed among the ashes to stop my bleeding. He even warned me about getting close to the beasts, because they would eat even their own kind.
...
I asked him where he was from. He said he comes from a place called "Tenochtzitoc"...
But that's not his hometown. Strangely, he doesn't remember where he was born, but who am I to question him?
...
Nocht left without taking a rest. He said he was running out of time.
He warned me to head back before it was too late. Heh... With my body as it is now, it might be too late already.
I am prepared. I know this is my last adventure. I swear to use every last drop of blood in my body to uncover the secrets of this place, as sure as I am the Great Adventurer, Stanley.
...
Hans, so long as you make it back to Mondstadt safely, my efforts have not been in vain.
If a day should come when another member of the Guild returns here, I hope they can find the records I've left behind.
Ad astra abyssosque.
My 24th pause to rest. I don't know whether it's day or night. There's no wind.
I saw more monsters today, seemingly of the same species. They resembled the one that almost devoured us, but there were larger ones and smaller ones. The largest of them all was the size of a small mountain.
...
I've never seen beasts as evil as these, but something about their scent is familiar. It reminds me... of when I was on Dragonspine.
...
Judging by the range of the monsters' activities, I'm starting to suspect that the place we went to earlier was not the center of the Mare as we previously thought, but merely somewhere along its edge. For all our efforts, we never even got close to the Mare's heart...
...
And something else happened today that I thought was strange, so I'm writing it down. I remember seeing a woman bandaging my wounds, but when I try to recall what she looked like, it's like my mind's eye is covered in ash. I can't make out any of the details...
The only thing I can remember is her name... "Nanas," or something, I think it was?
Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm wrong. My head's starting to hurt, and I can't remember...
If it can be brought to life,it can also be killed, while it may still be alive in the abyss realm somewhere after death,it still sort of dead until someone brought it back again
Ye
Wait for third note ig
I mean Rhinedottir brought it to life
Not that someone revive it
Yeah,but if it can be brought to life ,it can still die in some way
I don't think that is confirmed, because it is Enjou speculation
He is still unsure about Bakunawa
I don't remember abyss order saying anything about authority though,only that they don't understand how Bakunawa work
I guess it is where the abyss originated first if it was this corrupted
Make sense for a beast with insane abyss power
I still hold into my theory that Bakunawa can die though,the only way to true Mare Jivari
Ye
The abyss portal is somehow there,Traveler abyss power 
It's enjou
When he was there,he would tell you to jump into it
Since it is likely Twin will use Mare Jivari as a placeholder for New Khaenriah,I expect the order and Bakunawa to fight,or they will put more effort into researching Bakunawa
Also,would Bakunawa have a soul
it would be a major weakness if it does
If PO sealed off the ENTIRE planet,I wonder why the Dark Sea is left untouched
Well,it can be an exaggeration
Bakunawa's immortal body would be useless if the souls are destroyed, perhaps not completely but returned to where it belongs (Abyss)
This is if Genshin soul system works the same way like many games or story
His soul is from the abyss,I doubt she can do anything about it
weakest archon btw
Still,the soul is the weakness if someone can counter it
Not confirmed though
We are just making speculation
I think Bakunawa has a soul
Bakunawa's response to literally everything
Still,there are more characters to come,PO and Traveler(?) could possibly do something as a protagonist.
I'm more interested in the motives of "the reaver"
Beside that, Bakunawa isn't really the biggest threat right now
So the dragonlord is straight up saying the HP's reason for even coming to Teyvat and putting the barrier around the planet was to "force humanity into their imposed order"?
There was a war going on and PO likely focus on Nibelung
Shade are busy with the sovereign while PO with Nibelung
So it might not be true then?
Mare Jivari was sent off the timeline,so not sure if we can figure this out
Unfortunately PO is currently
Even Mare Jivari isn't within Irminsul,I think PO might not be aware
Or he was sleeping again
I think because of the timeline stuff , Irminsul cannot record it
It is still pretty easy to take down,now they just need to send it's limb outer space
Throw it in Honkai verse
Also I think the Shade don't solve the problem because they are not obligated to? I mean, realistically speaking,they could do my method,send it to another planet and let it do whatever 
I think the moon piece is the same one from Natlan sky, which happened prior to Natlan act 4
Ye but it is missing the center part
yeah but likely bigger than multiple nations, if not all nations combined
No,I mean that the center of the moon was gone before act4 ,so I suspect they pulled it down at some point before Mavuika punch the sky
here's what it looked like when Thanos pulled down moon fragments
Off screen
so how arent we seeing literal chunks of teyvat destroyed
My method is similar to theirs,put Bakunawa in a dead zone,while it limb is still trying to merge back
Yeah but that is just a single person's memories, an entire region is different
We will see in his third note
If there is any
Istaroth writing Benny's story
5 notes for 5 body parts of Bakunawa (amount of time defeated)
Hmm,there are only 2 in project amber
Oh nvm
It is just different name
My 34th pause to rest. I don't know whether it's day or night. There's no wind.
By the grace of Barbatos above, as I'm writing this very line, I can see one of the larger monsters devouring a member of its pack. It's happening in a plain just over yonder. This is a once-in-a-lifetime observation, so I need to record it.
Archons above... It's digested its kin in an instant. Now its body is bulging... No, it's expanding...
Oh, hell. It's looking this way. Did it see me? I have to g
(...The rest of the page is marred by corrosion...)
Is the monster Bakunawa but mini?
Rift hound don't have belly though
Yes
I think it is Bakunawa flesh growing into a form and devouring another,until it gets as big as the current Bakunawa we see,which is just another part of the actual Bakunawa
No,it is more like eating itself until it returns to the original form
Or anything with abyssal energy
I believe Mavuika,Venti and the Twin will play a role in reaching the true Mare Jivari,Enjou might also be important once he find what he seek
With how easy the Twin was able to collaborate with Lord Night,I won't be surprised Twin will also collaborate with the two archon
Lord Night traded with the rebel leader which already put Natlan at risk regardless if Mavuika collaborated or not
The archons can benefit from this by no longer having to worry about Bakunawa and Venti being able to return all the soul back
Is it specific chara constellations or just random bs
Random
@ashen ocean what was that about luinda and her mom or whatever
founder of the flower feather clan
i think
lianca
lianca was the human child?
and her mom was the eleventh
?
or the eighth?
i dont remember
ic
ty
@ashen ocean why did the eleventh split personality again
maybe i shoulda did this quest when i was less tired

damn this quest was lowkey confusing
so the bad eleventh was posing as the eighth to lure the good eleventh in and become reborn
Easy breeze music is such a vibe
Yeah,night music is always relaxing
After reading everything in homdgcat
Moonsign isn't as bad as I thought
You get buff from non NodKrai characters based on their stat(HP for hydro and so on) ,hoyo also saying there will be other ways to increase moonsign
So you only need one NodKrai character and you can still get full buff
I assume you will unlock it after the story is finished
Basically global passive but f2p so no one can complain about it
Also Special Story Traveler Friendly Unit which is likely the abyss sibling,I wonder if it is fully functional AI or just Dainsleif
Traveler can transform into those special NodKrai spirit too,damn
Kuuvuki or something,I could be wrong
The text makes it sound like you control them
I think so
Kuuhenki
By switching forms, kuuhenki can roam near small patches of mist.
Be aware, kuuhenki in different forms are attracted to mists of different colors. If you switch forms to the same color as the mist, your movement will be impeded.
Small patches of mist will provide kuuhenki with kuuvahki energy. While in kuuhenki form, you can consume this energy to roam freely for a brief period.
probably an exploration mechanic like in Natlan,I won't read more spoiler for this mechanic because it is pretty interesting
It can also hack into Fatui ID scan thingy
Part of a world quest, don't know why the fuck we infiltrate Fatui HQ in a world quest instead of AQ
NodKrai have so many enemies,there are like 20 enemies in the fatui faction
4 for Frostmoon Scion, 2 Wild Hunt, 4 ancient moon Fungi or something, 3 unique local legends
Different ID so 🤔
Ye,it's world quest
Natlan finale wq is here too
It is event, reputation and world quest seem like
But we will probably only enter that moon room though
Or maybe this WQ will be voiced
I doubt that,but it would be nice if Lauma accompanied the player here
Ah right
Anyone here who’s better at this than I am, may I have your help in getting this done for me so I can get the chests please? Is that ok?
Nope
Just checked it out
Rerir army is probably what we are fighting, maybe he is after our ship?
Also ||2 invasion|| is cool
10 hrs quest is real...It can both be a good thing or bad depending on how hoyo executes the story
Hopefully it stays good
It is probably long because of || 2 character story quests merged and the 2 invasions||
There are of course unrelated dialogue (chill dialogue) but I don't mind it,if things get serious quickly,it would feel forced
Also you would have to work around area puzzles and domain which is another reason
I would get side tracked easily though
I hope this isn't just a prop but a special enemy
For the invasion
Remind me of DeathBringer
Shit got me scared when I played in hard difficulty
Yes


