#・genshin-spoilers
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Nah some are pretty big
Even fontaine has many caves
Like merusea one
Ahhh
I hate that gap tho
Yes lmaooo
This will probably get filled with celestia expansion
Maybe
the buddy sub never fails to impress
The whole research institute world quest is dope tho
the fact the screenshotter upvoted it
Huh
All 4 of them
woke up early just to finish the Narsissenkroooooz questline
Bro the floating cube one?
Mary ann, floating cube, caterpillar and the tower
is the floating cube part of the Nasszzikawriawd questline?
thought it was just Mamere, Caterpillar and Diving dude
Oh ok
Ya what
Noicenkraorwz
I just say ordo
Narcisenkromaw
hibiscus porticus
NiceKruize
dew it
I have dusiclaxia
dookielexia
worcestershire
Wriothesley sauce
has anyone explored urania's lake or the fontaine tower yet
any world quests in them
or lore
I haven’t
ain't there yet
anyone played Halo 2? I swear the Fontaine Tower looks like the New Mombasa Space Elevator
Wait why is remuria not in teyvat
Wow very similar
No
whats this
Also what’s the sealed
They look so menacing from afar
Like king deshret mauseleum
Wanna see?
Sure
This quest felt a bit rushed..
Imagine if the whole fuxking map is underwater 💀
Remuria will be better than enkanomiya fosho
is it upcoming world ?
who is she
Durandal from Honkai impact
Not confirmed
Just leaks
Probably the final fontaine area
In maybe 4.6
What
Idk if rushed is the right word. More so… unfulfilled?
Yeah that too
Oh lord
Like Childe got basically no closure
Idk it felt pretty fulfilling to me
That’s for later stuff tho
Hope she wields the abyss flower too
Like I don’t like how they settled some stuff off screen..it feels a bit lackluster
Is the abyss sibling the 3rd descender? Does that mean the gnosis is the siblings body
Why would it be for later? Act 1establishes he’s looking for his master and sets up his fight against the whale. He fights the whale, skirk shows up, he’s unconscious
No they are both 4th
I believe
Also there was a lot of pointless dialogue in this quest..
Abyss sibling isn’t a descendant tho
Like what
Nahida already established that
Oh ya you right
They became part of the world or smth
That’s the whole big mystery thing
well, that's not necessarily true. they may not be a descender NOW, but.
Cuz the sibling is recorded in the tree
we don't know whether that is just a consequence of something that happened during our time away
While the traveler isn’t
Ppl said the same for wanderer in 3.2
The parts with Charlotte..it may be bc I was tired but I wasn’t really interested in those scenes
So i think childe will be get an interlude dedicated to him in 4.3
Some scenes are really filler yeah
i wonder who will be 2nd weekly boss
arlechino looks good so she might not be the boss
I think we won't see childe for a while
I think it was just to set up that everyone would kinda just continue working all the way to the end
Hopefully. We need more skirk that isn’t just her dropping lore bombs/mysteries.
But didn’t they say at the end that tartag is heading back to sneznaya?
I really hope tho arle becomes a boss
Yes
Neuv said the gnosis are the remains of the 3rd descender.. that either means tsaritsa is trying to revive the 3rd to fight against celestia
Also childe and his skirk got no interactions..we didn’t even get to speak to him and we didn’t even give his vision back to him directly..it had to be through The knave..which idek if she’s trustworthy 
So I don’t think he’ll just randomly sail back for an interlude
this recent AQ brings up the whole concept of us being a "spectator" of a performance, and it might be that the deciding factor is whether you remain that or not.
He recovers and returns in next version 
Yeah true
did we get any explanation as why childe's vision suddenly stop working?
complete speculation, of course, but it may be a choice the traveler gets to make eventually.
melus and silver last scene was 
nope
Bro that made me cry
the only guess we have is that Focalors did something but it's just a theory honestly
His connection to the whale probably
Furina dance cutscene broke me tho I was crying so much lol
Speaking of the knave tho. I feel like she was underutilized af. Like she was menacing in act 3-4. And then basically did nothing for act 5 other than ordering her troops to help with the civilians

I can't believe they weren't brought back 😭
Mihoyo cooked in archon quest
Yeah she was..that’s another issue
It would have ruined their sacrifice I think
I mean thank god they didn’t come back. Let there be consequences
Mihoyo slayed so much even focalors got slain
I mean ya act 5 was all about focalors
i was honestly surprised when they said there were casualties in poisson after the incident lmao
I liked the parts when it’s focused on furina/Focalors and neuv at least
The whole point was that
could have been on screen at least
"consequences!? in my game!?"
No one could do anything
ik but they deserved better
I mean I guess. I just feel like as THE harbinger of the region she should’ve played a slightly bigger role
in a way that serves as the point, i guess
Like I thought they were gonna include her in the plan
Also the people don’t even realize that Focalors had to sacrifice herself😔
But then it’s the siblings
kiara calls paimon big sis is suspicious
they deserve better but the tragedy is what it is
They did ?
Like what plan
i bet she sensed paimon is 6k years old
The whole entrapping furina in the fake room
they did include arlecchino, yeah, she just didn't participate in the meeting
And bringing her to trial
They did?
she got the tunnel sorted through the fatui and shit
lyney says as much during the trial
Is furina story quest out?
and sent stuff to poisson
Yes
Yes
Yeah but that’s more so just her granting resources. Was hoping for a more active role
and searched for the final stone
Little oceanid
Ya this too
both Harbingers did good
Without the knave we wouldn’t have the final stone
I just hope there’s an interlude quest
probably, I need Dain to come tell me what happened lmao
Everyone simply acted in line with the prophecy lol literally zero characters besides focalors and a travel had an active role
In anything
😭😭😭
Will find out in a day or 2
I hope the same
Neuvilette did
neuvillette played his part in the prophecy
And focalors plan worked because he forgave fontaine
Omg also
I also kinda wish Childe was there at least for the defeat of the whale. It’s a big goal/desire of his from his voice lines
would have been rough if neuvillette just ended up hating humans
We don’t get any info on the pyro archon..which is weird
awkward ending
LMAO that would have been so funny
"no, f all of you"
Yeah same
The whale will probably live again, mf kept it as their pet
I mean did u see hi3’s ending for part 1
it's an anime game, everyone is used to bad endings in anime

It had negative reviews right?
Happened for aot
as Dainsleif or Zhongli said, the journey is the most important part, not the ending 
Basically everyone hates it
I think the only issue was the sudden shift on character of eren
aot got mixed reactions
Some called it a plot twist
he just wanted her to think about him for a while, guys
Some called it “mischaracterisation”
ten years at least
I don’t even watch it but I saw this
He turned from “will kill everyone for my freedom”
And went wtf
To “will kill everyone for my babygirl”
Damn
Idk I saw a line where he was like “even though I’m the one who killed my mom, I’ll avenge her”

they changed armin's line
yeah i heard about that one
Bruh😭
I mean we can always have headconnons 
a considerable improvement, although the ending is still pretty iffy.
the one saying thank you for doing genocide, for me it suits armin better now that they removed that one
though i do think people exaggerate the horridness of the ending a bit. i think the ending itself isn't really the problem but the way it plays out in the final few chapters
it just feels like a tonal shift in the worst way
And yes breaking bad ofcourse
yeah and also some deus ex machina, too good to be true that falco can fly
Couldn’t have asked for a better ending
yeah, that's what i mean.
it feels like it changes genre for the ending and then tries to go back
and it muddles the whole thing

afaik it's because isayama wasn't happy with avenger ending so he decided to turn his plan for the ending
So this is why people hate her design..?
wait what
they're referring to the fact that nahida says they are recorded in the tree
which outsiders aren't
They’re recorded in irmunsol
I personally don’t hate it. But I think it’s lacking heavily
but didnt fatui says traveller is 4th ot 8th smth descendant and also his sibling ?
no the sibling is not, which was the twist of that quest
Yes and that’s the mystery. Descendants aren’t recorded in irmunsol
Yet the sibling is
Supposedly. Khanreah’s act is left as ???
my personal thoughts surrounding the confusing situation with the sibling, their descender status and their relation with khaenri'ah is that it might just be as simple as:
So we may have placed inbetween
descenders are outsiders, but can be made to be a part of the world somehow. the result of the sibling choosing this is what makes her and the people seemingly regard her as a "princess" of khaenri'ah.
aka
that was what was written into the world when they chose to become a part of the world
so that's why everyone thinks that's the truth.
I’m a believer that Alice is a descendant
which would affect the sibling too given that they are now beholden to irmunsol and the history of the world recorded there
Of the two collected miscellany that Alice voices instead of dain. One is wanderer who has erased himself from irmunsol and the other is aloy, who def aint from teyvat
assuming she didn't just become royalty in khaenri'ah before it fell, and we just missed out on that.
speaking of the "world"... i think this version is the first time they use "planet" to refer to teyvat, before this it's always been "world"
bro does alloy fr count as a descender 
well neuvillette did say it before earlier in this arc as well
descendant is an ancestral / family-related thing
@sudden swift
Is she even canon
Eyy the character is good tho
but yeah, i think fontaine is the first time they started referring to teyvat as a planet. no idea whether that is just a translation choice or an intentional difference in the CN text, though.
Its just that she entered the wrong verse
Is it referring to Skirk's line?
i play with eng sub and jp dub, text now is written as planet and voiced as hoshi (star/planet)
if both languages translated it as planet, then it's probably the same in CN then.
at least skirk, i don't remember if neuv and focalors also did
i remember neuvillette saying it. but i mean, it could just be that most people do not understand the concept of a "planet"
What is even weirder what that line is that there's no real attribute to if she's speaking of this planet or another one
but the reborn hydro sovereign refers to it as such as they are aware of descenders etc
she just says "using a planet sea of star"
yeah but neuvillette calls teyvat a planet at different points
it's just an interesting change of phrase.
it implies a better cognition of the rest of the universe yeah
which I guess for Skirk makes sense
yeah i don't think there is necessarily anything deeper to it than that. with celestia being or at least presenting themselves as gods, it makes sense the people of teyvat would view their planet as the entire world and refer to it as such.
just like how certain beliefs irl, even in modern times, reject the idea of a larger universe
since it makes us seem less significant
she also said something about using a planet's primordial sea for raising the whale
(by "presenting themselves as gods", i just mean that while they're viewed as gods in teyvat, they could also just be considered very powerful beings)
so probably teyvat planet
Yeah, and the title of the whale in the boss fight is Visitor from the Far Side of the Sea of Stars
the title makes it sound like's outsider, but the sea of star could just be another part of the planet
neuv said the whale doesnt belong to teyvat
but i dont know if the planet consists of only teyvat, or also some other world/layer as well
I thought teyvat was described as a continent
but everytime those infos are just sprinkled in random convo and we're left being "???"
yeah, it's not called teyvat.
i just use it interchangably since that's the name we have for the known world.
probably not continent because then inazuma isn't teyvat
islands can be part of continents
skirk also used the word "surface"
inazuma is japan, both of which are islands. japan is part of the asian continent :P
and interestingly the multi layered map also calls the top layer as teyvat
ah you're right
The only ref I can find in the game stating teyvat is a continent is The text on the Aerosiderate weapon ascension materials stating that the other side of the "Dark Sea" to the east of Liyue is unknown land outside of Teyvat.
MADAMEEEE
well
the "dark sea" is not necessarily geographically outside of teyvat
sad that melus and silver wont appear on her burst setting up the canons and such 
SALVATION OF GEO IS HERE?
🙏
enkanomiya was considered part of the dark sea and is called as such in in-game text
but it is obviously right below watatsumi, so it's not exactly on the other side of the planet.
the abyss isn't teyvat either
yeah, but that's something you basically go through weird portals to access. not just a cave.
i just mean that we have so little info about the rest of the world
4.3 MURICA PATH "Land of the Free" DLC
well in-game it looks like a portal but it is a pool of water
i think it is literally just a pathway through water, but before there was underwater swimming in the game
the abyss is more like a dimensional rift lol
We did have to do unlock that passage with juju tho. I don't know, it's not explecitly stated anyway so it's hard to prove either way
well, that's kinda what i mean. the abyss is more like the weird pocket space, while enkanomiya actually underground. but enkanomiya is not considered part of teyvat.
why is zhongli getting counted by Darth Griseo
my point is basically: the dark sea could imply other physical continents on the other side of the planet, or it literally just means "places that are not ruled by the gods, even if they're geographically on the same continent"
so until we know that, then we don't really know if there is more to to the surface world.
It could also be that Teyvat works in layers, and Teyvat is outside layers
yeah rn it's hard to tell
but that Whale ain't from teyvat, so is the sea of primordial waters it was created from, teyvat's planet or somehwere else?
a mystery
find more in 8.2
well, with them starting to refer to the playable world as being a "planet", it wouldn't surprise me if the structure is somewhat simple.
when compared to older theories about like, upside down world and shit
there's physical planets that exist, presumably in something similar to space in real life.
The city in chasm being upside down is still a mystery, the primordial sea falling up is a mystery
one day
yep simple is more likely, genshin is aimed for younger people after all
then there's the abyss or whatever which probably exists on a different layer and connects the different planets without really caring about physical distance
hence why a whale could invade from the "sea of stars"
If abyss is the sea of quantra then yeah it's connecting everything
If Skirk and Dain do introduce a new quantum element in genshin, I can't wait to become a quantum main in another game
im prolly gonna rewatch the 4.0-4.1 archon quests cuz theyre good
obviously everything i'm saying is just my own personal interpretation of things based on what i've gathered. might be missing info that contradicts it.
the scene of childe vs the whale is so cool, i keep rewatching it
why is foul legacy design so good
but i'm guessing it's something like the abyss connects different planets based on the whale name. basically big giant hungry whale from distant planet can show up and cause trouble because the abyss can be used for travel.
but hey, who knows.
it's unclear whether the human realm is it's own thing or whether it is just the light realm but adjusted by celestia
Truly a 4 star of all time
childe vs whale and the fontaine being saved
so good
theyre both good as 2.4 liyue vs beisht cutscene
dont forget focalors last dance, not an action scene but damn i broke there
that was so sad
NEUVILETTE WAS CRYING WHEN FOCALOR WAS READY MEET HER FATE
I NEED TO HUG THIS MAN FR

I WAS CRYING TOO
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Nah that dance cutscene made me ugly cry lol
bruh amber lee connors did amazing on furina
I was crying so much
this hurt me
what hurts?
melus and silver died
neuvillette crying
furina being freed
fontaine saved
honestly, she once again had people sacrifice their lives for her
MELUS AND SILVER DIDNT DESERVE THAT WHAT THE FUCK
shit was so out of pocket too
They did
They were heroes lol
they were literally the best
They even saved Navia after they died
"hey navia how's it go...ing"
navia crying broke me
the moment when neuvillette forgave the people of fontaine also was really good
unfortunately the gameplay aspect was very lacking
the boss didn't feel like a boss
and skirk showing up and telling us that it's a random puppy dampened its value even more
Story bosses are always weaker, I haven't tried doing it weekly difficulty
god how i wish they would make focalors playable but as oceanid character not an archon
still meh on lv 90
more like annoying
😔
Remember that people suck at video games and play genshin
: )
It takes like 30 seconds lol
I'll blame it on the fact Childe weakened it after fighting it for a month in the abyss pocket
like we went from fighting signora , to fighting the shogun, to fighting scara in a fucking gundam suit
and then we dipped fighting two thingies ?
Ya I don’t like fighting scara every week so I’m glad it’s quick
Tbh
same
i dont know, after azhdaha and shogun puppet i havent really enjoy the weekly bosses after that
Well technically the whale is like stronger than an archon
scara was also good as a fight concept
i didn't feel that way neuvillette shat on it so hard lmaoo
It is, skirk is just here to remind us that there are way bigger beings outside of teyvat they might have to deal with
It took childe in foul legacy fighting it for 45 days
😭
- neuvi getting his full power back + traveler
And neuvillette who is a sovereign’s full power
i'm not so happy that i can't choose to fight without nahida toys
To even damage it
he's teleporting too much
before neuvi separated the waters from it, it was fully fused with the primordial waters so i don't think childe been doing much aside from aggravating it
He held it back and delayed the apocalypse enough
Obviously he stopped it from surfacing
For 45 days
If Egeria and Focalors knew about the whale, why did they let it drink primordial sea water for hundreds of years

I don’t think they did
Because that was the plan
There’s no indication they did lol
They knew about the prophecy but not the whale methinks
They shouldve killed it before it became too concetrated
they probably knew neuvillette was able to handle it, but if they don't do something this elaborate they might not be able to take on the next thing celestia sends
Why the prophecy has to happen eventually
now i wonder 4.3 now
Celestia didn’t send it
Guys the prophecy is like oedipus
if u say so
They don’t know
I think Focalors wanted the prophecy to happen to end her plan and let neuvi get his power back
but even Neuvi isn't certain of it. He thinks Focalors judged childe guilty so he could buy them more time
They literally only know 4 things will happen
celestia probably provoked it, the prophecy was basically someone foreseeing the punishment bestowed by celestia for egeria's sin
No clue how or when
it's an entire focal point of the aq
Nicole says it was probably created by a powerful witch or smth there’s nothing that says celestia made it

focalors had to use the confusion and execute herself while drowning fontain so that celestia thinks the punishment has been enacted
I thought all Celestia did was the curse of the people of fontaine turning back into waters 😔
probably the whole thing of how celestia works will be part of later plot
didn't they say it was just the reaction of these special humanoids to the primordial waters that they came from
Yes
yeah celestia didn't make it
yes, which is why I'm starting to wonder if Celestia did anything
and skirk was confused as to why the whale was fighting childe this early
They prolly are just upholding that it has to happen
Childe just accidentally fell in lol
I don’t think celestia provoked that either
She expected them to meet but not that soon, so something triggered the whale sooner than she planned for
she collected the whale too
Ya childe fucking falling into the primordial sea
lol
😭😭😭😭😭😭
honestly there are still so many questions not answered, like why did Childe's vision malfunction??? a mystery
Ya this is true
wonder if celestia used childe as a pawn to trigger the whale
Also why was childe in Fontaine
At all
😭
He wasn’t there on a mission from the tsarista so like
Why was bro there
even neuvi said that it's not childe's fault for the whale, there was something else going on behind that
Could be, Childe did say that recently he was feeling angry for no reasons and kept having dreams of the whale
so It looks like it was the whale sensing him getting closer to the primordial sea and being "Heeeeey, come heeeeere"
Ya maybe
the thing is that his vision has been transmitting dreams to the traveller too
so aside from the whale, maybe someone messed with the vision?
Maybe it's just the traveler's natural power abilities?
This def is a question
But also like I don’t think we can pin it all on celestia lol
😭
honestly neuvillette's about vision says a lot on that too
celestia's wrath would not have been limited to making some water poisonous
especially when the water is sealed
like say they didn't interfere with the whale
the sin happened , they needed to enact a punishment on fontaine
Like celestia hasn’t moved
On like anything yet
Besides raiden
Story
They have done literally nothing
either that punishment hasn't been enacted yet or they had something to do with the whale
I think we might get more answers when we'll explore the remuria era. Maybe Celestia had nothing to do with it, and it was just a prophecy from another time repeating itself 
Rlly
I think the prophecy was prolly created by the hex
Not on purpose
Just as like
Futuretelljng
I think someone from the hex scried or smth
yeah i also thought it was nicole who informed egeria of how celestia is gonna mete out the punishment
There's still so many questions unanswered, like what is Childe's connection to the whale to begin with, how did he wake it up, why did it mark him, what did Skirk see in him to accept to teach him and train him
Nicole said that a powerful witch did it not that like she did it
Ya we don’t know
Childe sq3

Hoping for more info when remuria exploration 🙏
well, everything about celestia will be answered in time
for now all i want is kokomi going to fontaine
yes,but so far it's true everytime we hear Celestia big bad guys, but we see them do absolutely nothing
Next aq in 120 days lol
😭😭😭
as far as i'm aware, they did do a lot of shenanigans back in the day but had to stop fighting with the second descender
because both of them were getting weak
Someone said earlier that celestia is aiming a nail at neuv’s dumpy and I haven’t stopped thinking about it since
and the dragons could've used that momentum
so they made a truce and killed the third descender and used them as chess pieces
it's in neuvillette's story text, vision section
Well once again the Neuvi vision is like "Gnoses were made to keep the resentment and angers of the world at bay so their reign of the rules of the world stand true"
the killing the third descender was something i pieced in after what we learned in the AQ
it probably happened after they stopped fighting
So like, if the gnoses stop working... sovereign rage?
Apep is gonna have a field trip
HONESTLY same, and Dain is also, his lines in neuvillette trailers were so juicy
don't remember what he said
"Probably for the chief justice, all of this is but nothing but a stage, people fighting over lands that do not belong to them, and serving gods that do not care for them"
something like that
I kinda like humans bro
Call me neuvilette fr
What is this from
Neuvillettes miscellany video
it's narrated by Dain, and those are the lines he says at the end
Interesting
he never holds back in those lmao
i hope we meet the pyro dragon in natlan and that they weren't skewered into a shish kebab by like 500 fake dragons
So far, from the sovereign we met:
- Neuvi agreed to forgive the humans and is ready to cohabit
- Apep is a hard NO on sparing the humans
Is Azdaha the sovereign of geo? idr
But depending on Natlan's dragons I guess we'll have a bigger picture
good luckkk
azdaha isn't i think
I’m at like 9% exploration on Fontaine lol

neither is dvalin
And Inazuma's is probably dead

f
still coping they're sealed within the depths of enkanomiya
Wdym it’s kokomi fr
Kokomi dragon arc raaaaaa
honestly, because it seems logical the dragons would follow the cycle of rebirth, so even if they were slain they should be coming back
one day
Well neuv is a reviethed brag on right
Lmao I have 4 weeks until them
but I understand the plan to convince the sovereign to live in with the humans, as it would be a solution that would not need heavenly principle or the abyss
I mean for focalors it worked but for like
Other dragons
yeah
There’s a lower chance I think
welll
I don't think it will work for the others, the next two are from the land of war
apep owes nahida one
Obviously venti and dvalin are chill
but who knows
Azahada needs to die prolly
maybe, maybe we'll reach a happy end 🥺
is it?
Cause rock?
I thought Zhongli was eroded because he's so old lmao
Ya but it’s different erosion
I guess the term changes depending on the region, like how for sumeru it was that illness
The evil spirit shit
Ya but that’s forbidden knowledge
Not erosion
Rlly
like every region has a curse on them
😭
Ya interesting
What is mondstats curse
Bro mondstat has so much lore
That has never been used
Mondstat had the least complete story by far
We literally know nothing about it
They also have like wind and time and shit
Yeah man
And all the weird ancient ruins
Venti SQ2 where are you 😭
oh
Also like rhindottir obviously sent albedo there
After achieving the heart of a demon
So like
you're right i thought about that earlier today
Bro mondstat is the wildest fucking place
why are all the nations quagmired with disasters at the same time
And we literally know NOTHING
isn't it just the manifestation of the curse brought by the gnosis ? like skirk says
Hmm hmm, I think Skirk cemented it, every region with an active archon under a gnosis will bring disaster to their lands
It's her belief it's because of the curse of the dead descender they're made of, and so far, the pattern follows that belief
i don't think monstadt has been cursed cursed yet but i'd say there's more to venti than he shows
they're saving mondstadt for the end
The only curse so far was caused by the abyss order, but I think Mondstadt just isn't done
because there's still durin and albedo to deal with
the fact venti takes forever to get another SQ is suspicious
durin is dead no ?
The heart is still active
ah
at least I think it was during the event
yeah i can see where that's going
since we used it to fuel those things
so yeah
It might be similar to WQ in fontaine with Jacob
also Albedo's " I hope you'll stop me from destroying mondstadt in time" is still ringing in my ears
In a way, if what skirk says is true, the Tsaritsa is doing everyone a favor by getting those back, but is also bringing great danger to herself
unless pierro has a plan
idk
The existence of Lynette means at some point an Oceanid decided "I want to do that cat"
?
Fontainians used to be oceanids
Lynette has cat genes
an Oceanid fucked a cat, sir
Thank you for your cursed wisdom
Bro mondstat literally had like 100000 lore storylines
That haven’t been explored
Lynette was a human lol
Well like
Oceanoid human
Thing
i dont get how lynette is a cat girl but lyney isnt a cat boy but theyre twins
Also remember that fontainans didn’t have like normal births
Someone didn’t read


have just found out, it's written in char story in profile
It was also in a quest lol
i dont always read profile 
but this one yeah either i miss it or i forgot
Is the dog an oceanid too
Fr
The lore drop at the end hurt my head
Same
Also something else i want to rant on..why does the traveler just give childe’s vision to Alrecchino like why did they trust her so easily..? I’m ngl I don’t like how they written that..
In childe’s voiceline about Alrecchino it says she not loyal or trustworthy and pretty much acts of her own will so the traveler just being like “oh yeah here you go” makes no sense to me
but from traveller's perspective in fontaine, she's earned it
they would actually
be besties
i need this to be real
RN
She didn’t..she’s didn’t even play that big of a role in the story
The writing for this part felt kinda lazy ngl.
It isn't necessarily in the story itself. You have 3 friends loyal to her, and then she helped during 2 major disasters (the 2 floods). For the major part of the plot, she assisted their plan on digging the tunnel from poisson to the opera house and finding the final stone slate. While the last 2 things are rather small in the whole picture of the plot, in real life people appreciate the social aspect more.
im srry but nothing can convience me that part made sense in any way..
and dont even get me started on how neuv just gave alrecchino the gnosis off screen..like why couldn't we see the exchange..and the worse part is there was so much unnecessary dialouge they just used instead like wtf bro..
ran out of cutscene budget because they've used most of them for the big flood cutscene maybe 
Rereading the dialogue with Mona, she keeps mentionning the prophecy could only have been done by a visionary.. Skirk also mentionned a visionary... mmmmmmmh 
Maybe it really had nothing much to do with Celestia
Didn't Hex threaten Venti at one point, and he calmed them down with a tea party?
i just realized furina's situation is basically what would have happened if ei made kunikizushi (scaramouche) as the vessel for the archon (bc thats what he was original made for). furina was obviously had a big toll on her spirit because she had so much pressure and basically acting as an all knowing archon all the time since she was still human. Ei knew this and wanted to avoid that for kunikizushi..which was why she let him have his own freedom..yet people misinterpret and still say she abandoned him
In a way…. Ei REALLY did Kunikuzushi a favor
his life was ruined because of Dottore
That’s really it
It's more than Kuniki felt abandonned, than people say she gave up on him
its both
Also, now knowing the AQ and then the fact that Furina’s strongest kit is in her Ousia Form, her genuine form, it’s a little cute to me
exactly yeah
but yes she did him a favor, although she could have handled it better, like helping him settle or someting
exactly why i hate him
yeah true..
Unfortunately, empathy and emotional understanding is not… Ei’s strongest suit so it was probably kind of doomed
i mean she can NOW, but also
Then you have Yae "Personally, I would have killed him immediatly" so you know, overall she did her best
Like… Ei was mentally and emotionally fucked after losing Makoto so that probably affected her decision-making
Agh…. I feel so bad for Furina
yep😔
At first i thought she’s just a funny little gal but now i just want to hold her like a cat
Exactly the same
Can the game give me my guaranteed furina im at least at 74ish pity 
I’m really feeling sad for her
I can’t imagine how she acted to be a god as a human for 500 yrs
My friend said she’s the most respectable human in the game
With lots of stress and anguish. At least she had Neuvillette to help I guess.
Which I strongly agreed
honestly I agree, I remember people saying she was the smartest archon and after this AQ I undersand why, Furina as well, I hope she can enjoy her life now
Neuvillette definitely helped a lot
What is she going to do for life tho
After she left
whatever she wants to do I guess. She's still popular I think even if she lost in popularity. (she could join Venti and do tours
)
i havent played her SQ yet so maybe this changes. but like her life atm is like lowkey ruined. unless the ppl of fontaine are told everything regarding focalors plan
furina is actually on fraud watch
if she acc decives the heavens like neuvilette says to skirk then thats a testament to her intelligence imo
yeah but like i said, unless they tell the people of fontaine everything, ppl will just think shes like the biggest fraud in fontaine's history
oh mb i think thats fine imo like i dont think its a good thing to go around flaunting ur intelligence
if ur trying to hide something then why tell a whole nation
well they were hiding it for 500 years to trick the heavenly principles
now that the crisis is over im assuming and hoping its fine to tell them
cuz like if ur furina how're u suppose to live knowing u got outted in front of everything during that trial
i dont think she cares wot other ppl think and is juss fine to have dodged the prophecy
but i agree that her being able to tell everyone is juss an assumption and hope we never know wot can happen in the future
Were Npcs mad at her in her quest? I didn't finish it, the ones in the intro still refered to her as lady Furina, she seemed to be the one downing herself in guilt, but I'll finish her quest tomorrow
i feel like that since the entire nation didn’t get dissolved and everything, fontainians have no reason to get angry at her?
i dont know… i’m now concerned what the citizens now think of her
I didn't finish all of her quest, but so far she seemed to be treated okay, if Furina feels guilty tho I understand it, but I think she still has a good popularity, maybe she should go out of Fontaine to expend her horizons
i guess… people were so overjoyed of not being doomed by the prophecy that they forget they were angry to Furina for a while
can u call fontainians the real humans of teyvat
since the rest were brought by the primordial one
I think they’re the same thing now
fuck the second orthant puzzle
literally been at it 30 mins now
None of the fountains can be released
the fuck?
wait
it let me release one of them if the valves were right
but not the other one
ffs
guys how do i solve this puzzle?
wont let me release the water
nvm
had to call the lift down
i have such aheadche
Neuvillette should really tell fontainians how much effort Furina put into saving the nation
She deserve to not being misunderstood
Rene created the world formula based on Khaenriahn records and Remurian documents
Well he already had the world formula by himself he refined it to be accurate from those he found during his expedition
Rene's investigation notes from 3.6 world quest Khvarena of good and evil talks about this
i thought his world formula
only found out that the world was going to end for certain
not how
how did he know the waters would be drained
Nymph dream talks about star beasts devouring the amniotic fluid of the world dry
And that no more life would be born
ah
Yeah I need to reread the lore of that set, I can't remember if the whale was already involved in a past prophecy
If it weren't for an external variable like traveler
The music that places during Focalors talking to Neuv was so chilling
they are cooking so hard over there
I need the new discs to come out now I want Furina singing focalors theme
Rene as master said this before dissolving into the primordial sea
Yes, hatred shall not fill me. I know that you have not seen the sights I have, and that is why you wish to stop me."
"The star-beasts shall drink the amniotic fluid of the world dry. A hundred years from then, all life on its surface shall be wiped away."
"I will surely return to save all souls. Ten years, even a hundred years may pass, but I shall be reborn as a new universe."
then it says he shall be reborn as a human, unable to use but Machines and energies not derived from the elements
why are all those legends so similar
That's talking about alain
Creating FRI and the mekas running on pneumousia energies
Hero is Alain
While the dragon is master/rene
Yeah, it's just amusing that I keep thinking of Khaenri'ah parralels
Oh yeah
imagine an actual dragon telling you (who fought a whale) to prepare for natlan
😭
Hydro Traveler solo lmao
Wdym? Is it somehow different from the descenders we know of?
Something wrong with the translation?
guizhong theories are dead
for Fatui descenders are people that come from the outside of teyvat
In that text, descenders are those who possess a will strong enough to change the world
at least that's how I interpret it
She's not confirmed to be Mary ann either right?
I finished the whole narzissenkreuz quest and there's no sandrone mention in it
It's from a different quest
based Ordo promoting cookie sellers for making good cookies
no confirmation
But given the same hair, the same eyes, a logical reason for Sandrones existence (Alain), Her robot's desing, etc theres a lot of things that line up
Sounds convenient for sure
But she merged with lyris before dying as expected from 4.0
I'm still hoping to see more of what Alain did in the meantime he was locking himself up till the end
oughhhhhhhhhhh shes back
traveller finally gets a real weapon
hope we get to keep it?
yo we get to keep it
To not have them realize she lied to them and inflict punishment on her people
The trick from what I undersand was to make the prophecy happen as the heavenly principle saw it to happen, by creating Furina to play her role, while she stayed in the oratrice, that was more like a prison jail until the day it was ready to kill her and the throne of the hydro archon.
That way, Neuvillette could get his authority as the hydro dragon back, and pass judgement on Fontaine and the people of Fontaine, making it impossible (by concept) for the heavenly principle to judge her people and punish them.
By having Neuvillette forgive Fontaine, he basically transformed their -mimic human- nature into fully fledged humans. Erasing the sin of Egaria.
and since Neuvillette is technically in charge and with full authority, I'm guessing it means on a technicality, the heavely principles can't do nothing about it. ( but they probably can, they're just not doing nothing since the game started)
we get a cool abyss sword lessssssssssss go
pretty shiny for an abyss sword but I like i
is it like Kazuha's story quest weapon, we only get one copy and we'll get other copies in 5 years?
hoyl fuck there's a new local legend in the tower if you go back
it does 40k per auto attack
So whale other wordly, Teyvat here is described as a world. And it's not the first time a border is mentionned. If the whale is a pet from another world, is also Surtalogi from another world? 
you know what, this text is too vague, imma go sleep
damn hoyo giving crumbs to the "Teyvat is a Honkai shelter" theory
Reading the archon quests in JP made some lines easier to understand, but yeah the whale seemed more sad than angry, even if it still has the IQ of a 2 y/o, Surtalogi probably found it floating around randomly crying and was like "aw."
the fox is childe /slap
lol
Since focalors died is it still called "The Seven" or "The Six"
4.2 is the best quest overall
Aight time to play the real archon quest Narzissenkreuz
They need to voice the world quests
genuinely a crime
At least the major ones 😭
Higher power protect this world,yeah no bs like honkai character coming out of no where heh
Eventhough the whale is from other world,it isn't considered a Descender because it isn't powerful nor have ability to reshape,create life and destroy life.
quantum is coming
Mf got the eula thighs
So what does it say in furina’s profile for hydro? Vision or Gnosis?
I am always confused when they speak about other worlds. Are there many worlds beside teyvat and there is an actual universe outside of it from where descenders come from? Which “worlds” do all those creatures come from?
Where is it from?
When Celestia finds out, they're going to nail Fontaine.
It's from the enemy description
Kind of expected it

Ded patch era is back
yep thats how i see it
we all be just still talking 4.2 stuff at that time
and a few 4.4 leak
They should atleast drop some hangouts in such patches
There are many 4* chars without one
lynette hangout (awkward)
Just give us a fischl one
And probably dori
With black market stuff
Tho 4.3 has so much new tcg content
Might start playing it agaib
The fast forward animations is here
Yesss
Thats why i played it yesterday
After like 3.7
nice, it makes me sleepy back then coz of the slowness
truly QoL
Saves a lot of headache
hutao players half stamina before starting domain battle
💀💀💀
I wonder how's other nations reaction seeing a goddamn flood affecting only Fontaine
isn't Fontaine already lifted by the water? 😭
Fontaine should start a “go fund me”
somewhere in liyue:
Meanwhile them: we have the most advanced technology, flying ship etc
I don't think there is any least rich
Each nation has it speciality and sell them ,but liuye should be rich because it where mora used to produce
bruh wtf
I'd be guessing Natlan, seeing how they're at wars all the time and we ain't seeing any npc from them 
How did furina got a vision in her story if the hydro seat got destroyed ?
I assumed no more new vision could given after the events ends
Archons dont give the visions
well at least raiden said so
They can,just don't know how
I thought they do? Did not venti gives or so
Nop
Atleast that what that one person here said
He never gave someone
So celstia gives?
but we know visions arent entirely random
no clue, but likely
theres somebody thats in charge of it
You cant tell me every anemo dude is an emo short dude by coincidence
They never gives an official statement how someone get a vision then or whom?
or that electro visions suddenly started appearing AFTER raiden shut down the decree
I always remember that archons gives
I guess no court stuff anymore since the oratrice doesnt function
Nope theres never been explictely statement
Its a misunderstatement that archons give them out
people assume they dont but raiden tells us that in fact, they dont
Theres some higher power in charge of it but nobody knows particularly why
Yeah kinda a troupe lol
or who
Hmm any confirmation if people were able to get visions before archons was a thing?
Like back in ancient drogns days
''From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift. Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. ''
- Neuvillette's vision story
My best guess is that the other thrones still being active, the vision distribution is still active? Which would mean that vision aren't necesserely given by a specific seat..
unless somehow the seat stayed active and focalors plan failed
nope
we have no idea what visions are supposed to do
when they started appearing
who gives them out
All we know is that they manifest due to peoples ambitions and when they "prove themselves" and have strong wishes
Yeah this one I was preferring to,the archon don't know how to do that or something






