・genshin-spoilers

[mint harness]

Should there be a Navia leak for drip marketing today?

[tawdry blade]

Splash art if lucky

Marketing art don't get leak though

[mint harness]

Yes, I got it

[tawdry blade]

When is splash art leak agin

I don't wanna sleep

[weary oriole]

splash art? you mean, drip marketing 🧐

no idea, i was reminded at this very moment

[atomic mirage]

https://twitter.com/Drach1ron/status/1721117623193383227?t=OCMUhIg3ffzxQAVfcI8wlg&s=19

I thought this theory was really cool

Anyone who wants can see

[broken sluice]

it should be earlier this day but the leakers are either not working on it or gatekeeping

[tawdry blade]

Ah ,I will take some sleep then

[mint harness]

Different constellation?

[weary oriole]

It’s still the same constellation

[broken sluice]

same

[weary oriole]

I think the confession full of sinners’ love and gratitude has to be egeria

[atomic mirage]

[mint harness]

So there is gonna be “Element”

[atomic mirage]

Element? says an elemental being really like the venti?

[weary oriole]

What do u mean by that

[atomic mirage]

There is no character, except neuvillette, written element where it was supposed to be Gnosis or vision, is furina a new expression?

[weary oriole]

Well yeah

[mint harness]

This only applies to Ousia btw

[atomic mirage]

Is it egeria talking about furina ousia?

[weary oriole]

What do u mean by only applies to ousia

[mint harness]

This

Pneuma - Gnosis
Ousia - ? ? ?

[weary oriole]

The second half of their sentence gave me brain rot

[mint harness]

Nevermind, it's about Ousia

[atomic mirage]

I didn't understand the Japanese thing, what would it be?

[weary oriole]

Exactly it’s not making sense 😭

[atomic mirage]

I translated that kanji and it said, "I

[livid vault]

Can some1 calculate how many hours till pre load

[mint harness]

9

[livid vault]

Lessgooo

😋😋😋😋

[atomic mirage]

It arrives at 1am, right?

Will her demo come at 1am too?

[mint harness]

It depends on the time zone for everyone

[atomic mirage]

I hope that the text of the act and the Furina Voice Lines will also arrive at 1h after pre-loading

That are from the leak

[atomic mirage]

For me it's one o'clock in the morning, at night

[atomic mirage]

I went to take a look at the furina teaser again, and look what I noticed, the oratrice has those blue likes like it normally did, did you notice?

But thinking from another angle, that part was just a dream, right?

[mint harness]

Here is my theory

When Black Furina is sentenced to death, she will turn into a spirit, then White Furina will get a vision, then the spirit will enter the vision and thus they will be able to change their appearance, that's why it says element for her because she no longer has her physical body , unlike Ei which is a sword

[atomic mirage]

hmm,It could be, but I think you changed something, because it's the pneuma form that died, not the ousia

[mint harness]

Ousia, HuTaoLover confirmed

[atomic mirage]

confirmed what?

send it

[atomic mirage]

hmm

[mint harness]

This, White Furina has no characteristics of this

She is never angry

[sweet gyro]

doesn't pneuma represent the soul and ousia reason ?

[atomic mirage]

furina ousia, it's very bold lol, I'm joking, the ousia form tends to be darker and more serious

[sweet gyro]

• ousia Furina is the oratrice the actual hydro archon

pneuma Furina is part of the hydro archon Furina represnting her atleast according to her leaked voicelines

[atomic mirage]

hmm

[mint harness]

But Focalors was said to be on trial

Which is Ousia

[atomic mirage]

pneuma Furina is part of the hydro archon Furina represnting her atleast according to her leaked voicelines

[sweet gyro]

||But I know very well that what they are looking forward to is not me, but the "god" I play... In this process, all I really get is loneliness.||

[sweet gyro]

yeah so ousia will die or fuse atleast like said above and pneuma remains

[mint harness]

We wait about 6 more hours to see what happens in AQ

[atomic mirage]

yes

[sweet gyro]

it's only 2 days exactly until the release

but ig this is story spoilers so

[atomic mirage]

no

[sweet gyro]

?

[atomic mirage]

In 6 hours after pre-loading, the leakers will release all the lines from AQ + furina's voice lines

[sweet gyro]

yeah my point was why not wait so u experience it in game but then I remembered this is story leaks channel

[atomic mirage]

yes lol

[sweet gyro]

anyways good luck to yall wether u will see the leaks or not I won't so cya

atleast the aq ones

[mint harness]

Now you've put me in a dilemma as to whether I should read it haha

[sweet gyro]

it's more exciting atleast to me personally

also u might get confused as its just mainly texts

voicelines take time I believe

[mint harness]

You're right

[stray loom]

i will only read whatever neuvillette/furina says about natlan

If they even decide to reveal anything about natlan

[tawdry blade]

Wrathful

[noble vector]

So we getting those this morning

[broken sluice]

Its available a few minutes after pre download is released

[weary oriole]

They changed her gnosis to ???

It can only be vision

[livid vault]

Pre load is here??

[livid vault]

Genkai

[hallow vine]

She gotta stab someone toe with her footwear

[atomic mirage]

Where and is this from?

[broken sluice]

something like about natlan talking to neuvilette

[atomic mirage]

Has the text of the acts been published yet?

Why has pre-loading already come out...

[keen hawk]

@broken sluiceare there any new voice lines from the other archons about furina?

[broken sluice]

idk at this point

something about PO and a descender creating the gnosis

third descender, specifically

[broken sluice]

https://ambr.top/en/archive/quest/1405/masquerade-of-the-guilty

[elfin forge]

No archon quest on ambr???

[broken sluice]

skill

[livid vault]

Not all dialogues yet

Only like 10 lines in each of them

Or maybe that is the final product😳💀

[livid vault]

Oh it is here

Nice

Lmaoooo

Furina isn’t the final person we ask questions

Bruhhhh

Ashikai was fucking correctp

https://youtu.be/AFEbMrjBhF0?si=Jud18YFchyWC5JIH

[broken sluice]

ashikai looks at leaks though

[stray loom]

was the pyro archon's name revealed?

[livid vault]

3rd descender crumbs

[broken sluice]

fontainian people are all oceanid human mimics

[livid vault]

Yes lmao

[livid vault]

No stories were leaked when she made this video

[elfin forge]

So did furina die?

[livid vault]

Only reddit theories

[livid vault]

No

Authority gone tho

Neuvi becomes full fledged dragon

[elfin forge]

How did she destroy the throne tho

I didn’t get it

[livid vault]

Haven’t read thoroughly

[elfin forge]

Is it somewhere in celestia or somethinf

[elfin forge]

Same

[livid vault]

Only reading future lore atm

[elfin forge]

Anyways crazy lore bomb

[livid vault]

Like the end dialogues

[elfin forge]

But not enough like always

[elfin forge]

Same lol

[livid vault]

I’ll do the acts in game

[elfin forge]

It seems like she is dea

That she sacrificed herself

Well it seems that archons actually don’t need gnosis

To still be archons

I guess they have some sort of thrones

[tawdry blade]

Is preload out?

[livid vault]

Gnoses made by third descender

All

And is dead prolly now

Aether needs to killed

I mean the traveller

[tawdry blade]

So what is in the preload

What lore

[livid vault]

Reading atm

Biggest lore is that fontanians aren’t real humans

They are hydro mimics made by egeria

That was the sin

[elfin forge]

Why would she do that tho

[tawdry blade]

Already know that from early leak,turn out that is true huh

[livid vault]

Prolly childe interlude quest in next version

[tawdry blade]

She felt bad

Because justice

[livid vault]

Bcoz at the end they said , lets meet childe once he wakes up

[tawdry blade]

[livid vault]

Lonely baby

[elfin forge]

Wdym

I mean wht woyld she turn her people into mimics

[livid vault]

She didn’t

There were no humans to begin with

She just made mimics through herself

She is like the prime of oceanids

Basically she “created” fontainians

Current ones

And that was the cardinal sin

Make humans = celestia angy😡

[stray loom]

a mouthful

[livid vault]

As far as I'm aware, Natlan can be said to be "a nation of dragons."

💀💀💀💀💀

[stray loom]

pyro archon name still not revealed?

theyre keeping natlan locked up

[livid vault]

Dragon humans live among natlan

Endless ring of war is some sort of natlan competition

[stray loom]

dnc about archons anymore give us dragons ! !

[livid vault]

And captain just joined it

Lesssfuckingggoooo

Tournament arc

This is all i needed

Finally we get the natlan crumbs

[tawdry blade]

So every gnosis is third of Descender remain

[tawdry blade]

So is Tsarista plan is possibly to revive the third Descender

[broken sluice]

liloupar moment

[tawdry blade]

[livid vault]

Alice 3rd descended theory ded 😔

[tawdry blade]

Haha

[livid vault]

Maybe 2nd tho?

[tawdry blade]

SwC

[livid vault]

Full form?

[tawdry blade]

Seem like most of the Descender is missing or "dead"

[livid vault]

Tru tru

[tawdry blade]

Still the question is,why tf did the third Descender turn into a fucking chest peice,he love chess I guess?

[simple hornet]

@split wolf
is the text on this mismatched?

4.2 leaks btw

It doesnt seem like this should be on it

[keen hawk]

so egeria is just another focalor

....

[split wolf]

THERE ARE 2 TEXTS

[livid vault]

Omg

[split wolf]

Weapon now may have 2 TEXTS

[livid vault]

Are u the owner

[split wolf]

LET ME SHOW YOU

Yes

[livid vault]

Of project amber

Holy shit

Thanks for ur efforts

[simple hornet]

ah ok

[split wolf]

OH

SORRY

I have to adjust one thing

SORRY

I DIDN'T SLEEP WHOLE DAY

AND FORGOT TO CLEAR A LINE

SORRY

Sec

[elfin forge]

In which sense is celestia angry

[elfin forge]

Murata

[broken sluice]

thank u for the sacrifice 😭

[stray loom]

where was that revealed

[livid vault]

Manga

Before game

[split wolf]

FIXED

[stray loom]

isnt muratan a tribe name

[livid vault]

But i think thats an older archon

[stray loom]

i mean like

[livid vault]

“Pyro archon murata”

[stray loom]

did the quest reveal the pyro archons name

[livid vault]

Was mentioned in the manga

[split wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-hitori-gotou-gif-27023162

[livid vault]

Nope

[stray loom]

fail

[split wolf]

Consider going here
https://ambr.top/en/archive/weapon/11513/splendor-of-tranquil-waters

And see

2 lore's

[livid vault]

Only 2 natlan crumbs

[stray loom]

they are holding natlan hostage

[keen hawk]

|||She made a contract with her own self to save the nation, strictly adhered to it for over five centuries without once wavering, and even fooled the Heavenly Principles in the end... I have great respect for approaches to justice that place exacting demands not only on others, but also on the self. Though her divinity has vanished and the throne of the Archon is no more, Furina will go down in Fontaine's history as a God of Justice worthy of recognition.||

damm

[simple hornet]

tytyt

[keen hawk]

who is that

[livid vault]

Egeria?

[broken sluice]

idk might be focalors

[livid vault]

Or furina new putfit

[keen hawk]

wouldnt be suprised if it was egeria

[simple hornet]

It's the real focalors

[keen hawk]

||That means that the Gnoses, which are exceedingly element-compatible and can even enhance elemental abilities, do indeed come from the Third Descender.||

WTF

[atomic mirage]

Yes

[broken sluice]

made from the remains

the traveler is a walking gnosis as well

[atomic mirage]

Does Furina still remain an Archon in the game? after this act?

[broken sluice]

no

[livid vault]

Its harry potter all over again

[stray loom]

wh

[atomic mirage]

Why?

[keen hawk]

she loses her godhood irc

[livid vault]

So neuvu becomes true dragon

And turn fontainians into real humans

Thus becoming the fontaine daddy

😳😳😳

[keen hawk]

ok

egeria is a dumbass

[broken sluice]

furina is a human

[keen hawk]

so kinda related

[tawdry blade]

Aether has it on his ear the whole time

[broken sluice]

NO WEI

[atomic mirage]

???

[tawdry blade]

Anyway who is the archon now,or no archon at all,like Mondstadt

[keen hawk]

they arnt talking really kindly about egeria are they

they make her sound incompotent

[livid vault]

I think neuvi is now the “leader” position

As like ningung uk

The one who’ll caretake the nation

[tawdry blade]

I think it said he will still be judging

Furina can still attend trial like usual

[keen hawk]

ok so

[tawdry blade]

Everything would be normal if she didn't create people out of water

[keen hawk]

furina was never a god from the start

[atomic mirage]

Someone give me the summary, I don't understand anything:

[keen hawk]

or well focalor

how did she lose her godhood

[broken sluice]

NAVIA DRIP IN 5 HOURS

[atomic mirage]

She just became a normal human who uses vision so why in the drip is it like??? Does the vision also appear?

[keen hawk]

ah ok

[tawdry blade]

So is furina being Erinnye theory hold water

[atomic mirage]

Hmm

[broken sluice]

raiden

nahida

venti

[livid vault]

And chevreusuaueueusuaueeusbea too

[broken sluice]

zhongli

[split wolf]

So everything is fine with the data

Nice

Time to close my eyes and sleep

[tawdry blade]

Nice that every archon respect her

[mint harness]

So the Hydro archon no longer exists?

[tawdry blade]

I assume it is like Morax and Venti case

[broken sluice]

gn and thank u

[atomic mirage]

That's what I understood, could you explain what you understood?

If you read it of course

[tawdry blade]

I read some of dialogue in her story quest, it sound sad

[atomic mirage]

Tell me more

[tawdry blade]

So people of fontaine still see her as a star/celebrity or even archon. The scene where she appeared on the Opera stage(4.2 trailer) is part of her story quest.

[broken sluice]

yeah its really over

[tawdry blade]

[livid vault]

Its joever

[tawdry blade]

Furover

[atomic mirage]

[broken sluice]

😭

yeah its confirmed

its a general knowledge now

[atomic mirage]

But do they know that she is no longer an Archon?Has she now practically become an ordinary human?

[broken sluice]

but she is still adored

[broken sluice]

they do

[atomic mirage]

????

[broken sluice]

people know

[livid vault]

Read this shizu

2nd dialogue

[broken sluice]

she moved out of the palais and is living on her own

[atomic mirage]

Fear

Will she fight the whale?

[mint harness]

But if Focalors is sacrificed, how come she appears in Story quest?

[broken sluice]

no focalors in story quest

[atomic mirage]

So maybe she lied about sacrificing herself lol

[broken sluice]

its furina alone

and its where she received her vision

maybe the [???] is Furina but alt costume, the black one

[atomic mirage]

Could it be that one??? From the second drip it's the vision, because if it's in your face, it doesn't make sense why??? Since in the image she is using her vision

[mint harness]

Honestly, it's stupid to me that there isn't a Hydro archon anymore, it doesn't make sense to me somehow

[tawdry blade]

Look at Liuye

They're fine without archon

[broken sluice]

its a change bro

[mint harness]

That's fine, but there isn't someone with divine powers

[broken sluice]

focalors wants the dragons to fight back

celestia is the enemy, and focalors doesnt want to side with them

to the point of grooming Neuvi and giving back the power of the dragons

its a big worldbuilding change

you could pseudo-assign Neuvi as the nation leader but not an archon

but is more powerful than the archons

[tawdry blade]

So leak about her being a strategic is right

[atomic mirage]

Now I got a bug if focalors died because she is playable (the ousia form is focalors) I don't see the point in that

[broken sluice]

Neuvi is equally a "god" of justice

and is good on upholding that

[atomic mirage]

Her second legend will take her back to Paladis, I'm talking about it!

[tawdry blade]

Wouldn't Furina being the leader make sense,she planned all that so that is definitely what a ruler of a region do

[atomic mirage]

She literally planned her own death

[safe vigil]

Would this be the right channel to ask 4.2 story questions?

[atomic mirage]

I just wanted her to fight the whale

[broken sluice]

yep

[safe vigil]

So like

[mint harness]

Is Furina mortal now?

[safe vigil]

Where’s the hydro gnosis

[atomic mirage]

I don't know, I didn't even understand her curse

[broken sluice]

always has been

[broken sluice]

it was hidden in the oratrice

along with focalors

it ends up with Arlecchino

[atomic mirage]

What

[safe vigil]

So focalors and Furina are different people?

[atomic mirage]

So why wouldn't she dissolve????

[broken sluice]

is it proven?

[barren skiff]

first region without an archon

nice

[broken sluice]

zhongli wasnt an archon anymore

azhdaha knows it

[barren skiff]

but he's still alive at least

he can take over if he wants

Fontaine doesn't even have that

[broken sluice]

"first region without an archon" but it answers this

either you rephrase that

liyue people knows they dont have the archon anymore

[atomic mirage]

What?, the translator is having problems for me, but why wouldn't she turn into water like the later NPCs since she was actually a human

[barren skiff]

first region without an archon or ex-archon alive then

our furina is human, she even got a vision

she's as human as xingqiu or something

[barren skiff]

the quotes on divinity

are there for a reason

she's fake

[broken sluice]

focalors did it to trick Celestia

the true archon is Focalors

but she made Furina the "frontman"

[barren skiff]

I wonder why she suicided though

[broken sluice]

as focalors do all the plans hidden

[barren skiff]

seems like an extreme thing to do

[safe vigil]

And focalors is the one that gets guillotined, right?

[broken sluice]

Furina was the one trialed

Furina fooled the people

that she wasnt the archon

[icy dagger]

did the justice energy end up killing her? focalors i mean

[atomic mirage]

I feel sad for furina, she was literally manipulated for 500 years, and even focalors herself put a curse on furina (I don't know which one), just answer me one question, furina will age soon Now? She's been alive for 500 years...

[icy dagger]

the story quest and voicelines are pretty cute

[rare girder]

from the story, after the execution of the water god's throne, power returned to The water dragon Did I understand correctly?

[icy dagger]

ye

[atomic mirage]

Come here, since Furina is literally a human, will she now age naturally without her divine part or will she live for a long time like the other Archons?

[safe vigil]

So the real archon was hidden in the oratrice with the gnosis?

[atomic mirage]

[icy dagger]

i assume she age naturally (maybe slower since the vision) also foca mentioned because of the curse is how she live 500 years

[icy dagger]

yep

or mostly

i think

[broken sluice]

okay so, the oratrice sentenced "The Hydro Archon" to a death sentence, which means Focalors

[barren skiff]

Trialed for what though, what crimes did she committ that deserved death?

[atomic mirage]

Pain, she temporarily became immortal so she could age cool lol

[broken sluice]

acting as the Hydro archon, which turned out she is not

basically fooling fontaine

[icy dagger]

do you know what the trap they set for her was

[broken sluice]

however the oratrice wants focalors dead instead

[barren skiff]

so human furina gets guillotined? leak didn't say that

instead she seems to stay alive

even got a vision

[broken sluice]

the oratrice has a different verdict than neuvi

Neuvi: furina is guilty
Oratrice: Hydro archon is guilty (not furina)

[barren skiff]

but hydro archon is the oratrice

so oratrice destroys itself?

[safe vigil]

So who gets guillotined? Focalors or Furina?

[icy dagger]

i think its gonna show in the cutscene

[barren skiff]

i think nobody gets guillotined since focalors doesn't have a physical form

and oratrice destroys itself

it's what makes sense to me

[broken sluice]

focalors

[safe vigil]

Which leaves Fontaine without an archon, which would then match up with Neuvi gaining authority again. Makes sense to me

[broken sluice]

either way, focalors was sentenced by Neuvillette in the ending

[icy dagger]

wait did she actually get guillotined

[barren skiff]

I'm pretty sure the guillotine we saw in trailer is just there for dramatic purposes

and nobody actually gets guillotined

[broken sluice]

idk if the guillotine was for focalors or for the whale

[atomic mirage]

What we can do is sit and cry

That what I'm doing right now

[barren skiff]

focalors separated herself from furina, and she's inside the machine, so she can't possibly be guillotined

as she has no physical form other than Furina herself

and Furina gets a vision, leaker didn't say she dies as well

[broken sluice]

yeah she didnt died

she was just removed from the archon seat and effectively from the leadership

[barren skiff]

so nobody gets guillotined, but since the machine wants focalors dead

and focalors is inside the machine

machine must auto destroy

[atomic mirage]

What does everything indicate that Focalors may return?

[icy dagger]

never

she gone

[barren skiff]

however, we do have a cutscene that shows focalors in her physical form

[safe vigil]

Which one is that?

[atomic mirage]

All that's left to say is that Erinnyes was really the furina

[barren skiff]

this form here

[hasty narwhal]

So the whale really is just a pet throwing a tantrum

[barren skiff]

it's used for a cutscene

and it's focalors

[tawdry blade]

No one got sentence

[atomic mirage]

I want focalors hitting this pet!!!!

[tawdry blade]

I forgot what it said but the sentence was pause

[hasty narwhal]

She will!!

[atomic mirage]

Aeeeee

[broken sluice]

she lost the divinity and possibly had vanished

[atomic mirage]

Let's beat the whale up!!!

[atomic mirage]

[broken sluice]

focalors was sentenced but not guillotined

[tawdry blade]

[broken sluice]

that was neuvi's final interaction with focalors

[atomic mirage]

Man, what an incredible plot

[broken sluice]

at this point, fontainians became true humans and will not be ever affected by the primordial water

[tawdry blade]

Primordial Human

[atomic mirage]

[hasty narwhal]

It'd be funny seeing how zhongli thinks she sacrificed herself

[broken sluice]

focalors inherited the sin of egeria. idk how but the curse have finally ended with her

[broken sluice]

it must be related to neuvi finally taking back the dragons power, officially

[hasty narwhal]

Ye

[safe vigil]

So after the 4.2 quest, neuvillette is the ruler of Fontaine?

[tawdry blade]

Also traveler powerscaling

[atomic mirage]

So furina is what causes egeria?

[icy dagger]

hm so no lore reason for her switching arkhe?

[broken sluice]

yeah fucking no vision lore

[hasty narwhal]

Is it on amber already?

[tawdry blade]

Maybe SQ 2

[atomic mirage]

????

[tawdry blade]

If they doesn't show she recieving a vision in her SQ,more sus thing more theory

[atomic mirage]

They probably will

[broken sluice]

oh wait, the Oratrice sentenced the "Hydro Archon" to death sentence:

not furina / not focalors: but the "hydro archon" meaning the position.

the hydro archon lineage ends, and must return the power back to the hydro dragon

[barren skiff]

until celestia assigns a new archon

[broken sluice]

focalors being the one seated as the "hydro archon" means she must sacrifice herself

[broken sluice]

they can, but it wouldnt have the hydro authority

[barren skiff]

zhongli did say she saved the nation though

[broken sluice]

its meaningless

[barren skiff]

saved from what

the prophecy?

[broken sluice]

zhongli might have not known what really happened

from face value, she seems to acknowledge furina's help for 500 years shouldering fontaine

[icy dagger]

tf they mean no 😭

[barren skiff]

i wonder what made her separate herself

[icy dagger]

oceanids can split easy

[broken sluice]

yep focalors was originally an oceanid

she said it

[atomic mirage]

So she was a real oceanid

[broken sluice]

Egeria made Focalors a human, just as how Focalors wished

but after gaining divinity, she split herself

into a divine being and a human being

[atomic mirage]

So her oceanid summon in pneuma form is their true form?

[broken sluice]

idk, it should be not

its the "Singer of Many Waters"

not her

[atomic mirage]

For you to see how she didn't want to be an Archon

Could it be that there was still some divine power left in her?

[broken sluice]

i think not

Furina is the life Focalors dreamt of as a human

[atomic mirage]

I still think it has divine power but very little

[tawdry blade]

Her eyes still glow,so probably like scaramouche

[atomic mirage]

If she can summon primordial beasts in gameplay and in the teaser

[atomic mirage]

Everything shines, even the hair

[tawdry blade]

Reading dialogue on pamber can be hard to understand so it better to see it in game

[atomic mirage]

Yes

[icy dagger]

that sept 21st leak was like 99% true 💀

[atomic mirage]

Hoyo won't let this pass, I think that in Furina's second legendary, there will still be divine things...

If the first part is going to be her gaining the vision

[icy dagger]

thats def copium if anything big happened it would def be 4.6 story quest

hm i thought furina sq would be more lore heavy

maybe furina second sq is the pneuma return? probably not though

[atomic mirage]

Yes I have expectations down there, half of it is copyium my fear

[icy dagger]

honest question you still like furina character and story? or disappointed

[atomic mirage]

But wait, so after the quest will the ousia form really remain?

[icy dagger]

yeah

[broken sluice]

still good tho

[icy dagger]

I wasnt expecting to like it this much after the story leaks but im glad i do

[broken sluice]

its just that furina was brutally deceived

[icy dagger]

also omg that story line about her going for drinks

[atomic mirage]

Both, I've wanted a human Archon for a while now

[broken sluice]

the story is just brutal for her

[icy dagger]

fr also the build up for it..

[broken sluice]

i advice you all to play the act 5 before giving out the final comments

[atomic mirage]

She probably got trauma

[broken sluice]

coz there are still cutscenes we dont see

[icy dagger]

i was expecting furina to naturally have focalors personality (glad shes still a bit of a diva)

[icy dagger]

is her archon form gonna show up in one? i saw a render of it

[broken sluice]

the whole archon quest still conforms to the "masquerade of the guilty"

its the whole concept of it

everything is hidden until the last moment

dont compare it to other region AQs

[icy dagger]

i hate how filler the wrio ship act was

[broken sluice]

(btw inazuma is still trash)

[atomic mirage]

Bro, Furina is perfect, I read it there but I've forgotten everything, I'll look better in the game, but she's been manipulated all her life

[icy dagger]

do you have an idea of how long this acts gonna be?

[broken sluice]

its so much, i guess longer than how you played Sumeru AQ5

[atomic mirage]

All night, I have 254 shots to spend and then I go to the

[icy dagger]

Also last question do we get a proper cutscene of egeria do you know?

[broken sluice]

i hope so

but maybe just a few mention

egeria has nothing to do with the story unlike rukkha, its all focalors

[icy dagger]

also im surprised about the stone tablets any idea who tf wrote them

[atomic mirage]

I really want to know Erinnyes' lore, to conclude whether they are really the same people, whether Furina is really Erinnyes...

[icy dagger]

nah and foca says shes an oceanid not lochknight i think

[atomic mirage]

So why does her weapon lore talk about Erinnyes?

[icy dagger]

maybe erinnyes gives to egeria who gives to furina

also furina labelled herself like a damsel in distress in her sq when they talked about her combat abilities lol

[atomic mirage]

?

[broken sluice]

RIP

[icy dagger]

ah nvm maybe furina just found it or something lol

[broken sluice]

everything is not correct

[icy dagger]

its like the complete opposite of 4.2 plot lmao

[broken sluice]

luckily i didnt believed it

its so confident lol

[icy dagger]

also am i the only one that thinks focalors sounds like she talks a bit british

[atomic mirage]

[icy dagger]

famous last words “100% reliable”

and someone even posted to genshin leak sub

got taken down tho

[atomic mirage]

Do you already have her legendary lore?

[hasty narwhal]

Lmao

[broken sluice]

you can read it

the story quest

[atomic mirage]

I couldn't find it on the website

Can you find it for me?

[icy dagger]

scroll to bottom i think

[hasty narwhal]

So i guess there's a counter to rhine who is in search to gold, who created Skirk with red principle

[icy dagger]

i thought skirk master was gold

[hasty narwhal]

In the text she uses gold as a comparative

She says " he's kind of like gold but looking for other things"

[broken sluice]

https://ambr.top/en/archive/quest/2043/the-little-oceanid

Furina

[icy dagger]

oh i didnt read it properly

[hasty narwhal]

Remembering the text about gold being in search of human desire while red was the true philospher's stone essence i'm guess skirk is under the red faction judging from her eyes

Her texts are interesting tho

Wonder what dain will have to say about her if we get an interlude

But she seems to respect life in itself regardless, and avoids the surface because of the omens of the dead in it from what i got?
Still she will go pick up Childe when she'll get more news

Skirk to neuvi: my guy you shouldn't carry that corpse on you, it's bad juju.
Neuvi: oh shit i didn't know throws it to the fatui

[livid vault]

Guys liben is back in 4.3

[hasty narwhal]

What if the third descender was the sibling... No i feel like the traveler would feel it

Liben means free primos and a teaser of what's going on in the next region

[thorn condor]

Huh, the new books have a song of roland reference

Finaly

[hasty narwhal]

"Well, how about "The Visionary," Vedrfolnir then? Or "Gold," Rhinedottir?"
Does that mean there's a third "alchemist" named Visionary, a third faction ?

from the name Vedrfolnir, it's another Norse deity, a hawk sitting between the eyes of an unnamed eagle that is perched on top of the world tree Yggdrasil.
wonder what it could be. I'm guessing it should be the guardian of the world tree that holds the knowledge of the world, so maybe Nahida could know more about them

[tawdry blade]

Or just some little reference

[hasty narwhal]

The names probably, don't expect it be a big bird

[atomic mirage]

Bro, I don't see the point in furina having her second legendary, because she won't have a weekly boss, right? Archon but she is, what are they going to put there?If it were to bring her second legendary, could she bring it or tell me if she will still have divine powers, other than that I don't see the point in her having a second legendary...

The leaks say that Alercchino will be Fontaine's second weekly boss and that she will appear in an interlude Quest...not even to appear in the Archon's SQ...

I'm outraged.

[hasty narwhal]

If that's true I have no idea how that'd happen seeing how the AQ ended, will she just come back after giving Childe his vision back to wreck shit up?

[livid vault]

I wish this happens tbh

I dont want arlecchino to not be a boss fight

[hasty narwhal]

so far we did have a boss fight for every harbinger, it would break the pattern, just curious how it'd go

[mint harness]

And is it known why Furina can control both Ousia and Pneuma?

[livid vault]

Bcoz furina is

[icy dagger]

probably just for cool gameplay no lore

but white form furina does appear a little bit in story quest i think?

[weary oriole]

The question is where does she get her vision cos i Checked the story quest but see no info of her getting a vision

[broken sluice]

story quest

[icy dagger]

AH WRONG IMAGE

[weary oriole]

Ohh Thxs

[hasty narwhal]

so we don't know

[icy dagger]

No its also mentioned in her about vision

[mint harness]

I still can't believe that Furina doesn't have divine powers

[tawdry blade]

We don't know for sure yet

There still interlude quest

We got Navia drip but no splash art yet?

[icy dagger]

isnt that in 4.6

[mint harness]

For some reason I think she will then regain her divine powers

[icy dagger]

it seems heavily implied thats arle spotlight patch you might be coping a bit

also i love furina but lore wise i doubt she has much relevance in future..

[icy dagger]

and would ruin her whole character since its about her playing the part of a god she wasnt then finally playing herself

[tawdry blade]

Furina want freedom and is tired of being the archon for so long,I doubt she would become one again, however,she regaining her power isn't impossible neither

[thorny crest]

time to read aq

[tawdry blade]

There are some anime MC like saiki,who tried removed his power yet, he still have the power but uncontrollable

[broken sluice]

it ends with Focalors. it would be a waste

[tawdry blade]

Cute

[broken sluice]

thats why at least Furina has a vision

[thorny crest]

how does furina know not to make an enemy of the divine when she fooled them

[tawdry blade]

Well,that word fooled them

"Hey man,I won't lie to you"
Lies

[broken sluice]

gg ez

[tawdry blade]

[thorny crest]

so how is skirk

im too lazy to read it rn

pls give summary of skirk

[mint harness]

So there won't be a new Hydro archon in the near future?

Not as a playable, but to be born again

[tawdry blade]

Forget about archon stuff

Real question is why is it element and not vision nor gnosis

[thorny crest]

divine throne =/= gnosis

WTF

THIRD DESCENDER

[noble vector]

No cutscene leaks yet from preload?

[thorny crest]

no

[grand atlas]

I

Saw some leaks for the story I wish to unsee

What I saw was not even about the 4.2 story…

[tawdry blade]

The 4.3 to 4.8 one?

[grand atlas]

Wth

Beyond

[tawdry blade]

Can't be sure if that is true though

[grand atlas]

I hope it’s not true

[tawdry blade]

Story leak beyond usually wrong

[grand atlas]

How did people take so long to find posts from 2 years ago

That predicted everything accurately until now

[tawdry blade]

What post btw

[thorny crest]

the recent leak is barely true

[broken sluice]

its too hard to decode, unless you're dim

there are at least 5 cutscenes in the AQ

[thorny crest]

so humans can either live through a few hundred years

how can people from teyvat assume neuvillette is just a human

he's been iudex for 400 years

[tawdry blade]

Most don't think he is human

[thorny crest]

that's fair but i wonder

is barbeloth a human

she's also a few hundred years old already

[broken sluice]

funny how her last name is trismegistus

and mona's megistus

[tawdry blade]

3 megistus

[broken sluice]

Hermes Trismegistus (from Ancient Greek: Ἑρμῆς ὁ Τρισμέγιστος, "Hermes the Thrice-Greatest"

oh wait

mona just adopted the Megistus

[atomic mirage]

[thorny crest]

okay so

archon war happened after ||death of 3rd descender||

[broken sluice]

weird. they say the archons grant visions

but archons doesnt say so

[tawdry blade]

So who grant ppl vision

[broken sluice]

either way, it seems that Neuvi has now the power to grant visions

idk if just hydro visions

[tawdry blade]

Did he said he can

Shouldn't vision be something from Celestia

[broken sluice]

Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself, as like unto the dragon-treasure hoards of old, awaiting valiant humans to come and claim them.

maybe it is tied to the Authority

[tawdry blade]

Then call it eye of the god is kinda weird

[broken sluice]

or some conditionals that if the bearer is not a dragon, its just an automatic process

[thorny crest]

visions have criterias

[thorny crest]

it definitely is

[tawdry blade]

If that is the case,furina would already get the vision at the end of AQ

[thorny crest]

authority = highest authority over specific element

[tawdry blade]

But well. Seem like there is more to it(?)

[broken sluice]

ah here it is

[thorny crest]

and visions are basically pocket elements

[broken sluice]

Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery

they dont know the process

[thorny crest]

also

Skirk may have found a gnosis once

???

perhaps these gnosis aren't exactly gnosis but like

just remains of the third

for all we know, this heart of naberius that Gold found is also a "gnosis"

[broken sluice]

possible

but skirk is not gold

[thorny crest]

i know

but

remains aren't necessarily in one place

[broken sluice]

not found, by maybe interacted with someone who holds one

[thorny crest]

chi was split into different places

maybe same happened with the third

[thorny crest]

that's true

[broken sluice]

who knows she may be have secret agendas with an archon

[thorny crest]

The Foul is Pierro trust

[broken sluice]

skirk's master?

doesnt look like it

its more close to the hexenzirkel than the fatui i think

[thorny crest]

i think its just khaenriah in general

and not hexenzirkel

[thorny crest]

unless an archon comes to the abyss

i dont think so

skirk says she's been there since she was young

[broken sluice]

wait until the abyss has its own nations

[noble vector]

that was something

[hasty narwhal]

Skirk said she smelled something in Neuvi's powers she recognized, that it was a corpse and a curse, considering the curse of khaenri'ah, she probably had her fair share of dealing with dead gods remains and be like "nah bro, trust me you don't wanna deal with that"

Regardless, you should probably get rid of objects of "misfortune," to prevent any disasters from befalling you.
To live is in itself a blessing. But once a person dies, the bonds he once had with this world shall all turn to curses.

stares at Durin's corpse

[tawdry blade]

These leak make me wanna sleep

[broken sluice]

She returned home, dejected but not defeated. She spent all night studying her Vision, which ended up causing the entire building to flood.```

Goofy ass vision holder

[tawdry blade]

Blud try to get revenge on local legend tained hydro

[noble vector]

So now post AQ neuvillette has all his powers?

[broken sluice]

yeah

dragon pro max

[noble vector]

Did he like split

the gnosis

into two

[broken sluice]

nope

[tawdry blade]

No

[noble vector]

Got his powers and left the third descender remains in the gnosis

[broken sluice]

gnosis =/= authority

[noble vector]

But gnosis = a bit of authority and a bit of third descender remains

[broken sluice]

still not equal

[noble vector]

So gnosis - bit of authority = third descender remains

and neuvi full power

[tawdry blade]

Well,Nahida have access to Irminsul without dendro gnosis so it definitely doesn't equal to Authority

[noble vector]

I fully agree with this

that's not my point

[broken sluice]

authority is like a separate identity

[noble vector]

This is

[broken sluice]

it needed Focalors to die

[noble vector]

My point is

post aq

hydro gnosis doesn't have authority anymore

it's just

third descender remains

cuz neuvi is full power

[tawdry blade]

Gnosis is still gnosis,it doesn't contain his power or sovereign

[noble vector]

that slight bit of authority it had

[broken sluice]

well, do you know if Morax still has the authority but doesnt have the gnosis

[noble vector]

it doesn't have it anymore

[broken sluice]

i bet they still have the authority

which still makes them powerful

so they dont actually need the gnoses

[noble vector]

But we don't know if zhongli is the geo sovereign

[broken sluice]

he need not to be

[tawdry blade]

For example though,if you were born from something like rock,you should have "authority" related to it

In my theory

[broken sluice]

its like the authority is forced to be taken by the archon, OFFICIALLY by the celestia in the absence of the dragon

Focalors broke this cycle

[noble vector]

So by your logic

A normal archon like zhongli

With the gnosis has full geo authority right

[broken sluice]

with or without the gnosis

[noble vector]

.

[broken sluice]

zhongli is recognized by celestia as the holder of authority

[atomic mirage]

Did the statues of Fontaine's Seven change after act 5?

[tawdry blade]

I doubt it

[noble vector]

And neuvillette specifies that the authority had been stolen from him but he still got remains of it

[noble vector]

Doubt it x2

[tawdry blade]

Cuz he is a successor

[atomic mirage]

If there is no more Archon hydro and there won't be a new one, why not change the statue of the seven in fontaine?

[tawdry blade]

Gameplay

[noble vector]

Why would you

[broken sluice]

thats actually manmade

if you arent aware

[atomic mirage]

[tawdry blade]

SoT7?

[atomic mirage]

Meaningless

[noble vector]

But neuvi situation with hydro sovereign is similar to rukkhadevata & nahida situation

Not a separate entity

It's more like

idk if you watched naruto and tell me if you mind being spoiled

[broken sluice]

looks like we could never agree with our own interpretations

lets leave it at that

[noble vector]

So there is no fact

Well for the most part we agree

let's leave it at that

[slow silo]

can i ask since when did we know that mage N was the suspicious voice after scaramouche quest ? (i stopped playing during those times and ive seen more lore about who this Mage N is)

just got curious

[broken sluice]

yep

re-confirmed in this AQ as well

it was connected

[slow silo]

how was it confirmed ? that mage N was the one talking to us

[slow silo]

ghad damn i cant wait

[slow silo]

ooooooooooooooo

[tawdry blade]

What Mage N yapping about anyway

I only heard fate this and fate that

[slow silo]

do we get to see her ?

[tawdry blade]

Obv no

[slow silo]

aw mann

i just wanna see those witches so badly🥹

[tawdry blade]

They're gonna be Lisa

With red,yellow etc hat

[slow silo]

gold is still alive right"?

[hasty narwhal]

Probably

[tawdry blade]

Don't really know

[rough agate]

There was an event around that time which talked about the hexenzirkel and about how Nicole will talk to people if Fate was changed or something like that

Limited event so it wouldn't be surprising if people who didn't play it completely miss it

[slow silo]

ohhh

damnnn i didnt know that

there must be a cutscene about it or story somewhere right?

[rough agate]

Yeah there's a cutscene

[weary oriole]

Great question exactly as in we already saw her vision why not just say vision like there is no surprise there however they choose to say element and put down “???”

[atomic mirage]

I think it will update to vision the ??? Her

Since she will actually win a

[tawdry blade]

There no point in doing that,why show people that she has a vision and doesn't put vision in the tweet

The material one

[atomic mirage]

I think they did this for us to enter dilena, the vision is fake or not

[broken sluice]

before finishing AQ: gnosis
post AQ: ???
post SQ: Vision

[atomic mirage]

Yes

[tawdry blade]

Just realised,no furina demo yet

[hasty narwhal]

soon I think

[atomic mirage]

It only comes on Tuesday

[weary oriole]

But wouldn’t there be no use at this point so now they are going to put in another drip marketing saying vision well well wait and see cos I’ve realised that the preload isn’t all that happens in the archon and story quests maybe there is more to it

[tawdry blade]

Me when no more archon

[mint harness]

Then I will never finish the archon or the story quest 🙂

[tawdry blade]

I can't... I have to 100% everything or my life is incomplete

[mint harness]

To be honest, I feel bad because she has an archon design, but I'll still see her as an archon

[atomic mirage]

But in gameplay, she is an Archon and even has the constellation of a

I don't know if this influences the lore too

[tawdry blade]

This channel can't stop talking about archon

[atomic mirage]

[hardy drum]

Don't worry, all other Archons still regard her as a god for her deed

[rough agate]

in case you haven't seen it yet

there's a scene inbetween where the traveler even thinks whether it could be her who spoke

[slow silo]

ooooooh

damn why was it a limited event :c, i like how honkai star rail events that are necessary to the lore stay permanent and players decide when they can play it

fok too bad i missed that event

was this like the event before fontaine got released ?

[rough agate]

yeah I was wondering during the event how people would totally miss that it was Nicole if they didn't play during that time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RigK4OwCCM8

here's an animated cutscene too

from that event about hexenzirkel

[slow silo]

oh there was an event for that whaaatt

damn i need to read more stuff for now

[sinful mortar]

Wait, so who is the archon now?

[shrewd merlin]

If I were to guess, either Neuvillette assumes control of Fontaine, or the job of Archon is vacant.

[broken sluice]

both

also the archon seat in Fontaine is effectively abolished

not vacant, not occupied

[sinful mortar]

Did everyone that was consumed by the sea come back to normal? Including the ones that was experimented on?

[hasty narwhal]

don't know about the previous ones, but they should yeah

[sinful mortar]

I wonder if those in Celestia is even alive at this point

eithet they give 0 shit about whats going on. Or its part of their own grand plan. Or they are all dead and celestia is an apocalyptic ruin

[hasty narwhal]

It's one of the theory yes, that celestia is empty

if they're dead or not, not really sure

[sinful mortar]

We could test it by breaking a gnosis

would be like pocking a body wit ha stick

either its dead or sleeping

[atomic mirage]

Noooo

Wow, I wish she was like a mortal but doesn't age, I don't know if Hoyo will explain that, more in the future like in her SQ 2... why are there humans who live for more than 100 years in teyvat look Witches as an example, I don't know, there are other humans who live longer...

[simple hornet]

@broken sluice who let him into spoiler galore 😭 it’s over

[broken sluice]

Yeah, RIP

hopefully he wouldnt end up being asked for the sources

And the answer being "i am my own source"

[simple hornet]

I am
The source.

[broken sluice]

He would get ganged up for that surely

[thorny crest]

is he gone here?

[noble vector]

where is this from

that ain't project ambr

[broken sluice]

I am the source

[grand atlas]

Since we knew Odin is in the game

Loki is now in the game too?

Does this mean Thor is also in the game?

[tawdry blade]

You see,those are just name

If odin is in game, shouldn't he be god of wisdom?

[hasty narwhal]

He'd probably be the betrayer king lmao, or that king with the body stuck in the root of the world tree
||Maybe he's the visionary ||

[broken sluice]

me when King Irmin

[hasty narwhal]

Shhh

[weary oriole]

The more i see leaks about the gnosis and the descenders the more sus i become about paimon

Is her goal to let the traveler absorb all the elements so that celestia can turn mc’s body into a new set of gnosis

[tawdry blade]

This leak aged pretty well

[elfin hedge]

How powerfull might be the master of Skirk if the whale is his mascot

[hasty narwhal]

Pretty damn powerful

[weary oriole]

It could be a programmer from the honkai universe

And all of this is just a simulation through a computer screen

The honkai star rail simulated universe specifically the swarm disaster is advanced enough that it could even emulate gods with sentience

[tawdry blade]

It could be,in your dream

[signal mirage]

in a quest in charm we see those flowers our sister wears

and there was some kinda dialogue

do lumine users get that dialogue

[frigid lily]

Kind of, but instead Lumine says "thats the flower I got when I woke up in Teyvat" or something like it

[atomic mirage]

Where are you going to summon furina?

[mint harness]

Under the fountain

[hasty narwhal]

On the elevator to the prison like in the splash art

[atomic mirage]

I will invoke on her throne

[frigid lily]

Ok so
I have thoughts regarding the 4.2 archon quest especifically the prophecy but spoilers if you haven't read everything in Project Amber like I have

||What makes Folcalors think that the prophecy won't happen again? Especially since what she did is most definetely going to anger Celestia.

Because the prophecy is there technically speaking because of the people of Fontaine being sinners, and them needing to be dissolved because of the sin Egeria made right?

But the prophecy was there back in Remus's time, and that was before the Oceanid-Fontainians were created. So nothing is stopping Celestia from just creating another prophecy right?

Because the "prophecy" does not require the Hydro Archon exactly, and it doesn't require the people having comitted a sin.

Idk just some thoughts I want to have, because I 100% believe Fontaine's story is not over.||

[tawdry blade]

Now that Neu have his authority,he could prevent it,unless he get hunt by celestia

[atomic mirage]

I'll only have 260 shots for her

[tawdry blade]

Also the flood could happen again,just people won't be dissolved

I think the main plot is the people won't be dissolved anymore but the flood might just be Fontaine nature

[mint harness]

Her death is very unnecessary to me in all this, the creators surely, not surely, but they did, had more ways to prevent the disaster. But what's done is done

[atomic mirage]

I think they did this because the scriptwriters from Honkai Impact are the same ones who killed Himeko, so they wanted at least one archon death in this game

[tawdry blade]

There is always plot twist

[mint harness]

But the most fascinating thing to me is that Furina called her assistants without vision in the Demo video

Imagine in the end Fontaine turns out that this was all a show

[atomic mirage]

No, there are moments when she has vision and others she doesn't

I found it strange when I saw it

[mint harness]

Where she appears with vision, it refers to gameplay

[atomic mirage]

Hmm

Hoyoverse really killed an archon in history, was there no other option?

[weary oriole]

Exactly but I like to see it this way focalors still lives it’s just that her human side lived not the divine side

[slow silo]

actually been thinking the same tbh, since focalors technically destroyed the divine seat, its different from liyue where morax just retired but is still there. begs the question if celestia still even has some people or gods

[noble vector]

No cutscene leaks yet

?

[icy dagger]

the navia one and a couple others (and 4 furina sq images)

[slow silo]

BROOOO SKIRKK LOOKS SO

HOT

[pallid otter]

Melus! Silver! Nooooooooo

[severe lion]

WAIT im confused is furina still a god

[slow silo]

no

[severe lion]

sooo whos the god

[slow silo]

shes a human

no one

[severe lion]

oHH

[slow silo]

the seat of the hydro archon is technically destroyed

[severe lion]

so they have no archon now?

[slow silo]

technically yeah

[severe lion]

ah okay

[slow silo]

since neuvilette ||gave the gnosis to arlechino||

[livid vault]

Love how organised the seven statues of seven are

[severe lion]

looks so neat

[slow silo]

like neuvilette said before that he can save fontaine without the hydro archon

so technically ||focalors plan was to destroy it (the hydro archon seat) for neuvilette to save the people and in the end he gave a final judgement since its supposed to be his power that was stolen from the heavens, even focalors accused celestia doing the same sin that egeria made. egeria stealing primordial heart = celestia stealing elemental authority||

[tawdry blade]

It not stealing if it for good

Like imagine dragon with their authority remain,chaos would still be around

[thorny crest]

not really tbh

they were the original inhabitants of the planet

[weary oriole]

IM FUCKING SAD TOO

[pallid otter]

I didn't think I'd miss them so much. I remember when they were just dopey looking NPCs in that first trailer.

[tawdry blade]

While that is true,there is still many options for the sovereign