・genshin-spoilers

[elfin hedge]

Sumeru story leak was 100% reliable

[tawdry blade]

One of them was traveler use nahida body to trick scara but it was never true

[elfin hedge]

There was a leaker who leaked 3.0,3.1,3.2 and 3.2 AQ without any false leak

[tawdry blade]

Ik that

[elfin hedge]

Probably wasnt from that leaker

[tawdry blade]

And he got the Irminsul tree burning wrong

It never happened

[elfin hedge]

He never said anything about irminsul burning

[tawdry blade]

What is his name

[elfin hedge]

Idk, i think he deleate his account after 3.3

Before he was caught and he wouldnt get more Story Script

He deleate his account, but if you go to reddit and search in genshin leak subreddit Sumeru Archon Quest Leaks you will see all his leaks

And you will see how he got a 100% track record

[tawdry blade]

Was it the klee pfp guy

[elfin hedge]

I think so

[tawdry blade]

Then it the same person Im talking about

He was replying to other person asking if the Irminsul will burn

I was there and denying that leak because I know Irminsul burning will lead to many bad things since it is really important to the plot

Rest of his leak are reliable

[elfin hedge]

Well, then 95% reliable xd

[atomic mirage]

[elfin hedge]

[atomic mirage]

I'm too old for this, I can't wait, because Furina is the first Archon I'm focusing on at once

[icy dagger]

i wonder what would happen if furina was on trial would the oratrice still be unbias

[tawdry blade]

She will probably not gonna use that thing

But then again

It the only thing that powering Fontaine

Unless she used Primordial Sea to power Fontaine in the end

So it either that or she somehow can still gain power from people beliefs in justice

That why there's alot of problem with Neuvillette eating the gnossi

How are they gonna produce energy

[smoky stag]

I think they'll probably use pneumousia ngl

[tawdry blade]

The idea of using pneuma and ousia was abolished because it is not balance

[smoky stag]

the fact that the key might be furina merging back with focalors or something to balance the arkhe again

But who knows

[tawdry blade]

Maybe

Maybe pneuma is Focalor form

[atomic mirage]

I think separating was never a good idea, because everyone thinks that furina is the hydro archon while focalors doesn't give a damn to generate enough energy

[smoky stag]

Who is everyone

If it's genshin fandom their opinion is invalid case close

[tawdry blade]

It Fontainian

Focalors accumulated enegy for hundreds year so she should have more than enough energy

[smoky stag]

If the leaked plot of 4.2 is legit or holds up it makes sense why they'd separate tbh

[tawdry blade]

Still don't know where that energy crisis problem

[smoky stag]

Bar the new clarification from hxg ofc

[tawdry blade]

Furina coming to Realm of Farakhrek and drank the Amirta pool's water

Now she officially become Egeria

Egeria created(?) oceanid
Focalors created Xenochromic Abb ?

[hallow vine]

Someone can help me sort my thought? So from neuvillette lore it said the PO take part of original dragon power as basis for gnosis, but gnosis only distributed after archon war, so who make gnosis, PO or second who came, or i am missing something

[broken sluice]

nothing is stopping PO to hold the seven power altogether, from since the dragons defeat up to the archon war

[strange oxide]

Do we know what element Nibelung is

[tough crypt]

Not sure if I missed it but is it explained why the entrance to Meropide is all the way over by the opera guillotine? Is it supposed to be a tunnel that connects them?

[tawdry blade]

Because the opera is the court

Very reasonable to put the criminal to Fortress right after the trial

[tough crypt]

but geographically the elevator is nowhere close, usually aboveground does match belowground pretty well

[livid vault]

Dragon

[echo belfry]

agreed this bothered me as well

[weary oriole]

Is it confirmed that reincarnation will take place in Natlan?

[elfin hedge]

What reincarnation?

[stray loom]

resurrection

[elfin hedge]

What resurrection?

[tawdry blade]

Pyro archon probably

[tawdry blade]

Leak said guizhong would get it so who know

[earnest nebula]

if the title of the chapter is ode to resurrection, I'd assume it has something to do with the archon but who knows

[weary oriole]

time to see himeko variant no. 2

the recent leaks talks about arlecchino kit a little, says something about her q ||sacrificing herself and being revived||

What does it mean that in the archon quest she will sacrifice herself or die, then in the next quest she will be reborn

[weary oriole]

Interesting

[elfin hedge]

Or just a random name of a quest xd

[tawdry blade]

Cuz she is hilichurl

[elfin hedge]

You are taking that from a Quest name?

Is just a name like Akasha Pulses, the Kalpa Flame Rises

There was no Kalpa Flame that rised in Sumeru AQ

[weary oriole]

What are you talking about?

I'm not talking about Sumer at all

[elfin hedge]

That there wont be no resurrection in Natlan

And no reborn

The name of the Quest don't matter in the actual quest

[weary oriole]

I don't know if there is any leak for Natlan about what the quest is called, I asked because I saw on Twitter that they wrote about it

[elfin hedge]

One quest of Natlan should be called Incandescent ode to resurrection

That's why people believe there will be a resurrection

[weary oriole]

You mean this?

[icy dagger]

wasnt there also something about rising from the ashes or did i just make it up

[elfin hedge]

Yeah

That was what another person also here was referring too

[elfin hedge]

.

[weary oriole]

I don't think this has anything to do with the quest title, the title for Sumeru in this trailer has nothing to do with the quest at all

[elfin hedge]

Yeah that's what I say xd

What you saw on twitter is people expectation after seeing the name of the Quest

[weary oriole]

And I think I've seen it somewhere before

[icy dagger]

ah wait wasnt that something to do with signora

wait no idk what im on ablut ignore me

[tawdry blade]

Lol,bet someone will actually get resurrect

[limber nest]

It'll be Qiqi

[tawdry blade]

Akasha pulses,Akasha is used as a tool to distract the Sage
Kalpa Flame Rise
Nahida use "Kalpa"lata Lotus so this should represent her ,Flame Rise,her uprising against the sage and scaramouche

[elfin hedge]

Wtf are you saying now?

[livid vault]

Y’all saw the boss fight?

[elfin hedge]

Yep

[weary oriole]

Human form seems to have the power of Ousia and Pneuma

[elfin hedge]

Yeah we knew that leaked last weak

[weary oriole]

It's just interesting to me how no one managed to leak that Furina will have two forms in the gameplay

[weary oriole]

I think that Furina's vision has nothing to do with her power, but with Pneuma and Ousia, she is still a God and has divine powers, only that surely something has to do with Pneuma and Ousia

[atomic mirage]

Furina is the first character, who gets a new, more recolored look without having to change her skin like the others

[atomic mirage]

And changes the vision in the process

[weary oriole]

Her vision certainly has a role in changing clothes (form) because later Oratrice will be destroyed and the other personality will be released.

[atomic mirage]

Perhaps it is this vision that will make forcalors and furina change form to speak to the traveler or not

[atomic mirage]

Will it be written Gnosis -hydro on it? Or Vision - Hydro, or both?

[weary oriole]

Good question, I guess the leakers will show us that

[atomic mirage]

So I hope

[weary oriole]

Or, I think I've already come across a picture showing it, it's on a Chinese website, I'll try to find it

[atomic mirage]

Try try

[weary oriole]

I can't find it, but as I recall I think it said gnosis, but don't take my word for it

But I think I 100% have seen it say gnosis.

Or I don't think I saw it, I think I saw almost something at Nahida's and it stayed in my memory

I am confused

[atomic mirage]

Did you see this on reddit?

[weary oriole]

Images I recently sent?

Or about gnosis

[atomic mirage]

From gnosis

[weary oriole]

It's not reddit, I accidentally found some Chinese site

[atomic mirage]

Tell me about this website

Do you have this image on Twitter?

[weary oriole]

I think that website was published almost in one of the leaks on reddit

On that website, it was said that Furina will give up the title of archon

[atomic mirage]

This has already been debunked because she has a constellation and her hair shines like an archon's, in the beta

[weary oriole]

Yes, if the hair didn't prove that she is an archon, I don't really know what else needs to be proven, especially to those who still claim that Neuvillette is a real archon

[atomic mirage]

The constellation showing her face no longer proves she is an archon

Even because apart from the scaramouche, all the archons show their faces

And there are details in her hair in the constellation, I don't know if it changes anything, but in the constellation her hair is short, I don't know if it means anything

[weary oriole]

I think it's short because I don't know how long hair would fit into the constellation

Ei in her constellation has short hair at first glance

[atomic mirage]

Her hair is long from what I can see

[weary oriole]

It is, but the braid didn't fit because it was too long, like Furina's long hair

[atomic mirage]

It should be, but I think it still represents Focalors!

Even though we don't know where it will take us

[weary oriole]

Just to solve the mystery about the vision, later we are all calm, even those who still believe that Neuvillette is an archon even though he himself said that he is a dragon.

[atomic mirage]

They don't know that calling Neuvellett an archon is a punishment for him

[weary oriole]

Literally

[atomic mirage]

Neuv is literally Furina's pet/protector as far as we saw in the arc, even though he doesn't care(?)

[weary oriole]

Even though Neuvillette doesn't like archons, he still has a special feeling for her

[atomic mirage]

He has the greatest patience in the world for her

It's rare for a dragon to like an Archon, even though it's a primordial that hates Archons

[atomic mirage]

But, on furina's voice lines, she said she doesn't talk to neuvellett anymore and doesn't go where he works anymore, that was my understanding

[weary oriole]

I think that's also fake, because the voicelines haven't even been released in the beta version yet

[atomic mirage]

You are also in the Telegram group, right? You must have seen that they released almost everything from her Voice lines

[weary oriole]

I didn't, but I know that can't be true because they never leaked voicelines that much before because they don't even exist in the beta version yet

[atomic mirage]

Strange...I've never been that deep into leaks, so this is new to me

[weary oriole]

And this is also the scene where Neuvillette thinks more about Furina than about his interlocutors

[atomic mirage]

I thought that was so cute

But yes, he cares about her, so much so that she wanted him to protect her at the meeting with the alercchino

Very cute

[weary oriole]

Only she and Dori have that pose

[atomic mirage]

🤷‍♀️ Best pose

[weary oriole]

It would be good if the icon changes depending on the arkhe

[atomic mirage]

Drops of water, rain, or tears

[atomic mirage]

Hm

[atomic mirage]

Maybe they changed when they went to the game

[weary oriole]

Nothing has changed here

I would also like she to have two splash arts

[atomic mirage]

Difficult, we just know that it will have two drips

[weary oriole]

On the banner, it could change with a transition every 3 seconds

[atomic mirage]

That would be unique, an animated banner

[weary oriole]

Since she already has two personalities, they should make good use of it

[atomic mirage]

Even because she is a unique archon, since her gameplay is unique too

[elfin hedge]

More like she doesnt work anymore

[atomic mirage]

I didn't understand what you meant

[elfin hedge]

Im searching the voicelines but in the voiceline about neuvillete she says something like she didnt return to the court of something like that so she didnt see neuvillete

[atomic mirage]

I have the lines, do you want to see? I don't know if it's true or false, but why isn't she older? Does she think he thinks she's useless? Or is it because she's hiding a big and dangerous secret?His secret

[elfin hedge]

Wtf are you saying?

Older?

Secret?

I mean the voiceline of Furina About Neuvillete

Saying she didnt return to the court of something like that

[atomic mirage]

@elfin hedge

About Neuvillette
I am grateful to Neuvillette for all his hard work for Fontaine over the centuries, and he does not seem to intend to hold me responsible for misleading the public. We don't have to work together anymore and I haven't been to the Palace for a long time, so it's good for both of us, isn't it?

[elfin hedge]

That, that they dont have to work together and she havent been to the palace for a long time

[weary oriole]

Honestly, the text seems to be written by an amateur

[elfin hedge]

Is real, datamined voiceline

[atomic mirage]

Could it be that, from then on, Neuv no longer trusts her? Of course we can't jump to conclusions because 4.2 hasn't arrived yet

[elfin hedge]

More like she will stop working on the court and the one who will take control of the court of fontaine will be Neuvillete

[weary oriole]

"We don't work together", I don't know if until now all this was considered "work"

[elfin hedge]

Probably referring to the Oratrice

Without the Oratrice now Neuvillete has full control of fontaine court

Interesting

[weary oriole]

Which means that Oratrice may have been destroyed in some battle

[atomic mirage]

It's difficult because she's still an Archon of Fontaine, and Neuvellett doesn't have to take care of everything, even because the leak of her not being an Archon was abolished.

[elfin hedge]

So Probably she will be a new Venti/Zhongli? Just doing anything in her region?

[elfin hedge]

Probably destroyed by the explosion after accumulating a lot of energy and saving fontaine?

[atomic mirage]

We don't know, I just know that she doesn't know how to use her vision so much that she asked the traveler for help

[elfin hedge]

Venti still the Archon of Mondstadt, Zhongli still the archon of Liyue they dont work but still have the title

[weary oriole]

But it's still strange to me about the voicelines, for 4.1 the voicelines came out a few days before the release, and 4.2 so much earlier

[atomic mirage]

1- I'm not used to using Vision. Why don't you teach me? Uh... I almost forgot, you didn't use your vision either.

[elfin hedge]

Probably the leak was wrong there, the leak said she lose the title but in reality she don't lose it just she is not more the one in charge of fontaine

[weary oriole]

Maybe

[elfin hedge]

We had Voiceline of Neuvillete talking about Archon 2 weeks before 4.1

[weary oriole]

Yes, but this is a month and more

[atomic mirage]

Yes, but it doesn't give furina, she's the only one who isn't released about her in Neuvellett's speeches

[elfin hedge]

Also interesting he refers Furina as Furina and not Hydro Archon but in the case of the other Archon he calls them (Element) Archon

Neuvillete about furina probably is blocked after we complete 4.2 AQ

And the leakers didn't leak it because it contains huge spoilers

[weary oriole]

Ei addresses Venti as Venti, not as Barbatos, perhaps Furina wants to be addressed by her first name as well

[atomic mirage]

They will do it one time or another, it's just a matter of waiting

[elfin hedge]

Nah, leakers usually don't leak huge spoilers

They don't like to leak story Leaks

Probably they know more things than things that are leaked

[weary oriole]

Well, they already lied about the story that she will no longer be an archon. I don't believe anything at all anymore

[elfin hedge]

Maybe the wrong thing is that she lose the Hydro Archon title

[weary oriole]

It has been said that it is untrue

[elfin hedge]

Because she not being the Archon anymore like Zhongli or Venti is practically confirmed

[weary oriole]

Hxg_diluc Twitter

[elfin hedge]

Yeah

That says that she no longer have the title of Hydro Archon

But that don't say that she no longer is the Hydro Archon like happens with Zhongli or Venti

[atomic mirage]

She is still a hydro archon because she has the archon constellation, this doesn't change anything, only in the eyes of her nation will anything change

[elfin hedge]

Is not the same being Hydro Archon and Having the Title of Hydro Archon

Zhongli is not the Geo Archon but has the title of Geo Archon

Same will happen probably with Furina

Being Archon means to rule the Region, but having the title don't mean that you rule the region do you understand?

[atomic mirage]

It must have really happened with ventilation too

[elfin hedge]

Yeah

He has thr Anemo Archon Title

But is not the ruler/Archon of Mondstadt

The Title is something given and the Gnosis proves that you are the Archon like happen with a King and his crown

[atomic mirage]

Same as both then, not much to question

[elfin hedge]

Yeah

[weary oriole]

But it is important that she has the power of the gods

[elfin hedge]

She will still have the Hydro Archon Title but she won't be the Ruler/Archon of Fontaine

[elfin hedge]

We don't know that, at the moment we only know that she has a vision

[weary oriole]

I stand by the conviction that this vision has to do with pneuma and ousia, and not with her power

[elfin hedge]

I dont think so, she is shown with Pneuma and Ousia Vision

Ousia and Pneuma vision

[weary oriole]

Yes, when she changes her state, because she cannot have two visions on her

[elfin hedge]

Yeah

[weary oriole]

That's why she has a special one

[elfin hedge]

So i dont think that she has the power of a god because she wouldn't use a vision

[weary oriole]

All this is complicated, it remains for us to see how the story continues

But only in a month 🥲

[elfin hedge]

Yeah

[atomic mirage]

Where did we stop?, I had to leave

[atomic mirage]

But the statue on the set will still have her face in fontaine

[elfin hedge]

Like Zhongli or Venti in Liyue and Mondstadt xd

[atomic mirage]

Yes!

[elfin hedge]

Like i said she probably is like Zhongli, Venti still have the Hydro Archon Title given by Celestia but she is no more the Ruler/Archon of Fontaine

[thorny crest]

Venti, Zhongli, and Furina are not archons

[atomic mirage]

So be it! I want her to be an archon only given by Celestia because the nation doesn't deserve her!

[elfin hedge]

Maybe is a bit odd but like in real life with English Monachy, The King is the King's but he don't rule UK, there is a other people ruling it

[elfin hedge]

Venti and Zhongli are not archons but they have the Archon Title

[thorny crest]

Venti and Furina are called one by her people bc they didnt know they are no longer one or have thr authority of one

[elfin hedge]

Same with Furina

[thorny crest]

they are just god deities of their nation now

[elfin hedge]

Well, Venti yeah but from Barbatos they know he is the archon

He appeared and helped destroying the Aristocracy in Mondstadt

[thorny crest]

No gnosis = not archon

[thorny crest]

was

[elfin hedge]

He defeated the god of storm and become and Archon so yeah, they know Barbatos is the Archon

[thorny crest]

was

[elfin hedge]

They still are the archon

[thorny crest]

archon ≠ ruling god/deity of a place

[elfin hedge]

All the Archons still archons with or without the Gnosis

[thorny crest]

archon authority is granted by celestia with the gnosis, no gnosis means you are no longer one

but that doesnt mean you lose the right to rule over your people as theie god

[elfin hedge]

They still have the Archon Title only in the case of Venti and Zhongli they are not the Archons/Rulers

So you are saying all the game and mihoyo is wrong calling them Archons

xd

[thorny crest]

They are only called the archons presently by their people who have no longer idea they are no longer one

[elfin hedge]

By their people and by other Archons

And by Mihoyo when they publish something about Archons in a livestream or in a Trailer

[thorny crest]

i mean, if you had one job and were fired or retired, could you still call yourself as an employee of that company?

If you retired or got fired in secret, people who know you obviously would think you still work there

[elfin hedge]

They are not rulers but still the Archons

Archon is a title given to the winner of the Archon war

In the case of Ei is special

[atomic mirage]

[hollow berry]

here we go again with the FATUI BAD IM NOT WORKING WITH YOU please lumine this literally only has benefits

kinda sucks that i have to "progress in the story" i'd be comfortable just living in the fortress of meropide forever it seems like a nice place all things considered

[thorny crest]

Because they are given the gnosis?

[tawdry blade]

Yes cuz fatui suck

[untold rain]

childe is the only fatui she can excuse

[hollow berry]

what is this, persona?

[elfin hedge]

Omg Paimon is Morgana

[hollow berry]

i feel like i'm gonna get the bad ending if i don't find childe by november 6th

[elfin hedge]

Yeah, you will be arrested by Neuvillete

[weary oriole]

What does it mean when she is in Pneuma state her E continues to attack?

[tawdry blade]

Basically the buff of artifact and burst don't get reset if you swap

[atomic mirage]

It will probably be the same with furina

Only with the vision, if it is real

[weary oriole]

Does it seem to me or does Furina on the splash art have primoridal water

[atomic mirage]

you'll see if she has powers or absorbed primordial water

[weary oriole]

Or Furina is the primordial water 🤡

[atomic mirage]

Well, why would it be primordial water itself?

[weary oriole]

Because it is said that when the Primordial Sea floods Fontaine, only the Hydro Archon will remain

The rest will turn into water

[atomic mirage]

Do you have a point

[weary oriole]

What? 😅

[atomic mirage]

Nothing no

[elfin hedge]

Maybe Furina is not from Fontaine

Thats why she wont die if she touches primordial water

[atomic mirage]

And she is not human, if she were a human archon, she would die like the rest

[elfin hedge]

Who knows

Furina for now we know she is no God

And the first "Archon" who needs to use vision

[tawdry blade]

Still not human

[elfin hedge]

Who knows

[tawdry blade]

Yeah" who know"

[elfin hedge]

Da wei know

And also if you pay attention to the quest you should know she is no god

[tawdry blade]

And I said she is not human

Read

Pay attention

[atomic mirage]

She could be a minor deity who can use vision, there's a thing. In her E form Pneuma, something appears that is an oceanid Could it be her real form?

[elfin hedge]

Who know

[tawdry blade]

I like how the slime theory ability are wrong

[elfin hedge]

Probably Celestia know

[tawdry blade]

There's no bubble trap

[elfin hedge]

Could be or could not be

[atomic mirage]

You know:

[elfin hedge]

Im Da wei?

[tawdry blade]

There's so many thing to prove she isn't normal human but well you do you

[elfin hedge]

Who know, maybe a human cursed to be a puppet for Focalors

Maybe Furina is not the real body of Focalors

But idk, im not Da wei

[atomic mirage]

It's my copium but I would love for it to be a manifestation of gnosis:3

[elfin hedge]

We know nothing about the Backstory of Furina

[elfin hedge]

Could be

Maybe like a Hologram

[atomic mirage]

Because, we know that it will not be playable, but rather the truth that may be in the oriquina, which is the true one, which we know It would be a manifestation of the true

[elfin hedge]

Yeah

I mean that Furina could be a Hologram of Focalors or a Puppet like Raiden Shogun

Focalors controlling Furina from the Oratrice

We know from the Furina SQ that Focalors and Furina will talk

I hope that Focalors will take control of the body, Focalors seem like a good person

[elfin hedge]

From what we heard in Neuvillete Trailer

[atomic mirage]

Do the fatui feel the gnosis? If they don't it would make sense for that furina npc to be the gnosis since she doesn't fight,And are you afraid, since water can be used so why wouldn't a gnosis change too??

[elfin hedge]

Idk

Hydro Authority

Every night before I go to sleep I pray to celestia because I want Focalors being the playable archon

Not Furina

[tawdry blade]

So what,their model will still be the same

[atomic mirage]

Forget it, focalors will be playable and use furina as a human name and absorbed furina npc which was actually gnoses hydro and gave it to alercchino and sandrone in the end:3

[tawdry blade]

Sandrone won't appear

[elfin hedge]

Sandrone don't appear in 4.2

[elfin hedge]

Personality

Way to behave in events,SQ and future things in fontaine

[atomic mirage]

I know, it was just my guess:3

[tawdry blade]

So you prefer boring classic personality

And who said her personality is the same in the end

[elfin hedge]

Yeah, a good person

[tawdry blade]

If you've read her voiceline you should know she change alot

[elfin hedge]

Maybe are focalors voicelines

Who knows

[tawdry blade]

Still a little sassy but not before

Ah yes,focalor like sweet

[atomic mirage]

She became mature with depression:3

[elfin hedge]

xd

[tawdry blade]

Everyone have that

[elfin hedge]

Hope so

[tawdry blade]

Now we need 3 more

[atomic mirage]

But it will be very deep, as the personality seems to be inspired by today's teenagers.

[tawdry blade]

https://streamable.com/zntznq

Cool looking boss

[elfin hedge]

None of my nephews behave like that

[tawdry blade]

This boss took water can take any shape serious

[elfin hedge]

So I don't think is inspire in today's teenagers

[tawdry blade]

Because this world have8 billions people

[elfin hedge]

And? There are no bad teenagers just bad parents

[tawdry blade]

And does furina have Focalor by her side?

Like her parent

[elfin hedge]

They have the same age, if you are more immature is your problem

[atomic mirage]

I think she had a bad influence, things can influence water and she is the goddess of water so that must be why she is like that :3

[tawdry blade]

Age mean nothing,it like creating someone 20 year old and expect them to be mature,this is in genshin not real life

[atomic mirage]

It would be strange focalors relative of her why this would repeat itself like. Makoto and Ei

[tawdry blade]

It was more like an example

[atomic mirage]

I understand

[tawdry blade]

Like Focalor could created furina because water can take any shape and not take care of her like parent do

She just left her the mission and she just go on with her life

[atomic mirage]

I don't think she taught Furina anything, if that's what it is, she just released Furina into the world and that's it.

[atomic mirage]

Same thing as scaramouche, terrible breeder!

If that's the case

[tawdry blade]

[atomic mirage]

[tawdry blade]

Except furina agree to

Scaramouche got abandoned while Furina still technically keep in touch with Focalor

[atomic mirage]

And if loud calls such

[elfin hedge]

Hutao with 4.2 whale

First time I hear Neuvillete theme and is so fucking good

Easily one of the best Character theme in GI

[tawdry blade]

Until Knight phases apply Bond of Life

[lone laurel]

so after doing the recent AQ Neuvi basically confirmed that every archon has a dragon souvereign
Venti Dvalin?
Zhongli ?
Raiden ?
Nahida Apep
Furina Neuvi
i wonder whats with Zhongli and Raiden?

[elfin hedge]

Neuvillete didn't confirm that

[lone laurel]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcQ2HeM/ u may want to listen to what he says again then , starting from 1:55

[elfin hedge]

Maybe you should listen to him xd

[lone laurel]

ok just ignore my messages for the better then, it seems like we dont play the same game

[elfin hedge]

Sovereigns are not attached to Archon so "Every archon has a Dragon" is a false statement, also the only thing he says is that the Gnosis is the Elementak Authority stolen by celestia

Celestia stole the Elemental Authority from the dragons before Teyvat existed

[lone laurel]

yes my wording was wrong when saying every archon has a dragon

i meant like elemental archon stole the elemental matching dragon power

was basically just wondering who the geo/ electro sovereign are

[elfin hedge]

Also false

[lone laurel]

ok nvm its fine, just ignore my messages

[elfin hedge]

Before teyvat/the human realm existed there were the sovereigns, Celestia came and stole the Ekementak Autority from the Sovereigns, thousand years later when the Archon war ended Celestia gave the 7 gnosis to the 7 winners, the archons

Also we don't even know if all the Sovereigns are still alive

[elfin hedge]

Probably Geo, Electro and Anemos Sovereigns are dead killed by Primordial One and Celestia more than 40.000 years ago

[simple hornet]

99% sure this is rene btw

or at least what he turned into

[broken sluice]

yea thats the model Narzissenkreuz will have

[hallow vine]

Hmm, i guess after fontaine AQ lore and narzissenkreuz lore, we still need petrichor and prob remuria lore left

[atomic mirage]

[livid vault]

It seems as if the tower is related to institute

All ruins and gravity defying stuff all over again

[atomic mirage]

Complicated, kokomi in ult also suffers from this

[tawdry blade]

Only fool jump off a cliff and not plunging

It normal instinct

In genshin

[tawdry blade]

Why is he a hydro phantasm

[weary oriole]

Now I'm reading the correspondence above, it doesn't make sense for Focalor to create Furina, in the sense, you will be my pneuma version, which makes no sense at all. This is an archon who has two personalities, two bodies, but one soul

Feel free to dismiss those puppet theories, they make no sense, the Raiden scenario is not happening again for sure

Her hair constantly glows and is proof when the archon uses their powers

And here you can compare, on the left it glows up, on the right it doesn't

I get tired when I want to prove something to certain people

[livid vault]

Her sword is so beautiful

[weary oriole]

I completely agree

[broken sluice]

what are you proving?

[weary oriole]

That she is not an ordinary girl and that she uses her power

And that she is no ordinary puppet

[atomic mirage]

Seele? Style or honkai impact?

[broken sluice]

oh, so just proof based on observation.

dont worry nobody will be right or wrong at this point coz we all have no valid proof. everything is every own's interpretation

[atomic mirage]

I think that in the menu the hair doesn't shine because it only activates when loaded or during

[broken sluice]

arlecchino 10th harbinger moment

[weary oriole]

So yes, I'm comparing how it looks when glow and not glow

[atomic mirage]

That idle bubble of hers is suspected of being something from the primordial sea, or not

[weary oriole]

That's right, but it's kind of obvious, but we're still waiting for the next version of the game

[atomic mirage]

In the end it will be a break from expectations, and it will be something revolutionary

Source: trust

[weary oriole]

Yes, the characters are still somewhat similar to those from Honkai

[atomic mirage]

The furina is, seele and veliona(dark seele )and sentience by the yatta at the end, but many think it is based on sin mal

[tawdry blade]

To be fair, people saying her hair glow by default which is I disagree,keep in mind Oratrice have been active and collecting energy, Indimentium are pretty similar to her glowing part

I doubt Oratrice will disappear in the end,cuz that shit is the only thing that power everything fontaine

[atomic mirage]

Why standard?

[atomic mirage]

Vision will channel the faith of the people

[tawdry blade]

Also double personality on furina don't exist

[weary oriole]

Where is Oratrice here?

[atomic mirage]

Just two souls in one body?(seele and dark seele) so we could say why they are not personalities And yes two souls

[tawdry blade]

Which scene is this

[tawdry blade]

Not even that

[atomic mirage]

Furina going to build another power generator:

[weary oriole]

Neuvillette demo video

[atomic mirage]

So I do not know

[tawdry blade]

There was a trailer which Oratrice didn't show up either

[atomic mirage]

🤔

[tawdry blade]

You can also see the cog behind those glass,if it were really removed,why not cover it up?

[atomic mirage]

🧐

I've never thought so much about an act

Fontaine and his mysteries

[broken sluice]

for me thats the sequel to their conversation in the Overture Teaser

[tawdry blade]

First thing when4.2 preload is here is people gonna look up the archon quest

[broken sluice]

hehe im gonna save that one for in-game experience

[atomic mirage]

Is that the oceanid from act 1?

[tawdry blade]

Yes

[broken sluice]

vigneire

[atomic mirage]

It's only in the neuvellett demo that shows the missing oratrice

[tawdry blade]

Hmm I see but then it can't be after the archon quest

Because her attitude is the same in the trailer

[broken sluice]

yeah and she retired from the trials based on the leaks

[livid vault]

When does this location shows up??

I dont remember going here

[tawdry blade]

Book of Revelation

[livid vault]

No i mean

The location

[tawdry blade]

Yeah that

[livid vault]

Is in which quest?

[broken sluice]

go back there

in the sky

[tawdry blade]

World quest

[livid vault]

This is name of a quest?

[tawdry blade]

Yes

[livid vault]

Ahh okk

[livid vault]

Fontainev

*?

[tawdry blade]

Ofc

[livid vault]

Okk okk

[broken sluice]

MC girlfriend moment

[atomic mirage]

I just hope she gets more mature

[tawdry blade]

Reason to be a teapot main

[atomic mirage]

I saw this, but they said it can't be real, since her voices haven't been added to the beta yet

[broken sluice]

thats what you call insider/devkit

[atomic mirage]

?Like this?

[broken sluice]

even her kit is leaked before beta accurately

[atomic mirage]

So could this still change?

[broken sluice]

i dont think so

[tawdry blade]

Maybe some dialogue?

Or better wording

[broken sluice]

maybe grammar corrections yes

[tawdry blade]

Bcuz genshin player tend to get misinterpret by the dialogue

[broken sluice]

but the context, it is what it is (maybe genshin tone some down)

[atomic mirage]

Her legendary tries to have less action, as was the case with other Archons, but with focalors I tend to talk more than furina

[tawdry blade]

Weekly boss have 3 phases right?

[atomic mirage]

I don't even know who we're going to play with anymore

[atomic mirage]

No, I hope not, just two is enough

[broken sluice]

i dont get this

[tawdry blade]

No,I want 3

The knight phases look so boring,make it like raiden

[broken sluice]

random ass tigers

[tawdry blade]

[tawdry blade]

And jelly fish

[atomic mirage]

Focalors says more than furina and paimon combined

[broken sluice]

storytelling time maybe

[tawdry blade]

[broken sluice]

also it looks like they finally merged

[tawdry blade]

Focalor alive? Real?

[broken sluice]

2 persona 1 body

[atomic mirage]

It's separate lines

[tawdry blade]

I see

That should mean Focalor still "alive" by the end of the quest

[broken sluice]

well the divine focalors can speak on her own while not being shown physically

[atomic mirage]

If the Legendary Quest takes place after the events of the main act, yes

[tawdry blade]

Which it should

Like Neuvillette story quest

[atomic mirage]

Yes

[tawdry blade]

And nahida storyquesy

Venti blackhole texture could've been this

[atomic mirage]

4.2 archon & story quest Dialogue Counts

⚪️Fontaine AQ Act V:
•👤Paimon 422
•👤Furina + Focalors 254+80
•👤Neuvillette 290
•👤Navia 209
•👤Charlotte 69
•👤Mona 50 (yes)
•👤Arlecchino 41
•👤Lyney 40
•👤Traveler 37
•👤Clorinde 36
•👤 Skirk 35 (voice)
•👤Wriothesley 35
•👤Sigewinne 16
•👤Lynette 13
•👤Freminet 12
•👤 Misc NPCs 241

Act 5

[tawdry blade]

Act 5 is Noah Ark act

Navia making a come back

[atomic mirage]

I don't know

The mona there:

[broken sluice]

hoping they drown whole fontaine for like, even just 5 minutes

[atomic mirage]

And furina shining And using the power he accumulated for 400 years

[tawdry blade]

Wouldn't it be a little bit weird when the flooding ended? Because some building should be destroyed

Unless they timeskip it

And everything is reconstructed

[atomic mirage]

Hm

[livid vault]

Why no childe

[atomic mirage]

Childe evaporated

[tawdry blade]

His only voice line will be "ugh ha" sent back to Snezhaya

[livid vault]

[atomic mirage]

[sinful glen]

Paimon again

Stop stealing traveller’s lines god dammit

[atomic mirage]

I loved their relationship, I hope Hoyoverse doesn't ruin it in the last act and in Furina's quest

[tawdry blade]

Her voiceline

[sinful glen]

“You must come with me! I cant go to the meeting alone!”

[sinful glen]

What voiceline

[atomic mirage]

She wanted him by her side so much

[sinful glen]

She looked so scared though

She was so so quiet

[tawdry blade]

Yeah only because she is scared

[atomic mirage]

That was desperate for me

[sinful glen]

What voiceline though

Is it the attempted assassination

[tawdry blade]

About Neuvillette

[sinful glen]

Oh

[atomic mirage]

Voice lines

[tawdry blade]

[sinful glen]

Do you have the lines

[tawdry blade]

Get reddit

[sinful glen]

I wanna read it again

[sinful glen]

not that hellhole

[atomic mirage]

About Neuvillette
I am grateful to Neuvillette for all his hard work for Fontaine over the centuries, and he does not seem to intend to hold me responsible for misleading the public. We don't have to work together anymore and I haven't been to the Palace for a long time, so it's good for both of us, isn't it?

[tawdry blade]

[sinful glen]

Pain

[tawdry blade]

Dam,furina staying with us all the time?

[sinful glen]

Do you think that Furina’s lie is a white lie or straight up lie

[atomic mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/upset-crying-pain-cute-gif-13759001

[tawdry blade]

What is a white lie

[sinful glen]

Nahida

[sinful glen]

You lie for a good intention

[tawdry blade]

White lie

[sinful glen]

You lie to prevent others from getting hurt

Or save them from the horrible truth

[tawdry blade]

Telling people about the prophecy is true only will make people more panic

[atomic mirage]

I think she will lie and sacrifice herself, she literally used the neuv

[sinful glen]

“I have been waiting for you for ages”

[tawdry blade]

So she have been lying for hundreds year

[sinful glen]

And Nahida’s hobby is watching us

[tawdry blade]

[sinful glen]

The neuv

[tawdry blade]

When she is free though

[atomic mirage]

For a greater good

[sinful glen]

Where do you think she was when the melusine crisis struck

[tawdry blade]

Court of Fontaine

[atomic mirage]

I have no idea

[sinful glen]

400 years ago…

Quite a long time

[tawdry blade]

There was no Navia Line which is interesting

[sinful glen]

They didn’t mention Furina at all

[sinful glen]

She wasn’t born Bruh

[tawdry blade]

Not even that

There was land instead of water

[sinful glen]

Oh? Do tell

[atomic mirage]

400 years of lying, manipulating neuvellett, so that at the end of it all everyone would forget about her and she could be free

[tawdry blade]

Manipulate him for a good reason

[sinful glen]

Fontaine is the land of deception

[tawdry blade]

Gotta make him attach to humanity

[sinful glen]

Everyone puts on a facade

To possibly hide from the darker truth

[atomic mirage]

For him to be neutral in just

[atomic mirage]

She even put too much

[sinful glen]

Her lies are actually breaking

Her face that she put on is deteriorating

Even arlechinno saw it easily

Just from the look at her face

[atomic mirage]

She can't hide her Ousia form for much longer, otherwise everything will end up going wrong.

[sinful glen]

Balance is needed after all

[atomic mirage]

🎭

[sinful glen]

Light can’t suppress darkness for too long

It will just fade

In the end, darkness is the natural order

[tawdry blade]

No

[atomic mirage]

I really want a big reveal for this

[tawdry blade]

It genshin annihilate reaction

[sinful glen]

LMAO THE JOKE

[tawdry blade]

She gotta need pneuma to balance it out

[sinful glen]

Yeah it’s interesting

The imagery I can thinking right now is that light is the face of lies but darkness is the true intent

[atomic mirage]

And it's unbalanced

[tawdry blade]

You are telling me traveler is face of lies?

[sinful glen]

Who knows actually

It’s interesting that we don’t know paimon enough

[atomic mirage]

This is just another Monday for him

[sinful glen]

She could be putting in face

[tawdry blade]

I know cuz I am him

[sinful glen]

Oh goodness

[atomic mirage]

I'm going to sleep

[sinful glen]

Gn

Have a good rest

[atomic mirage]

I thank

[broken sluice]

sus 4.2 info

"To give you a little insight, Ousia represents the Abyss, and Pneuma represents Celestia. An analogy to Honkai 3 is that Ousia is Quantum and Pneuma is Imaginary, which are opposing attributes 4.2 storyline has a lot of big news, Pneuma itself is detached from Ousia, as well as the Heavenly Principles is also from abyss Black Furina is Ousia, White Furina is Pneuma, Whale weekly boss wants to find Furina (god version), the end is already black "infested by the abyss" [deepl isn't giving a clean translation for this line] The Hydro Dragon obtains the power of the Primordial Sea, the soul of Focalors returns to the Vision, the consciousness fuses with Furina and Furina obtains the Pneumousia Vision, then went from proto-god to god, and the Knave wants the gnosis [something about neuvillette story quest but I haven't done it so idk what theyre referring to] In her story quest, the black Fu Fu (Focalors) will talk the most, white Fu Fu is Furina, not much to say, the story quest will be talking about the deeper plot In the future, white Fu will still be the one who will appear in group storylin"

source: someone's afternoon dream

[sinful glen]

Looks interesting

[broken sluice]

its from chinese forum

[weary oriole]

Now the vision makes sense, I was right when I said it had something to do with Pneuma and Ousia

But now it is not clear to me how Pneuma Furina is not god, when she is literally Pneuma

And Ousia is a god, who doesn't even have long hair that glow

Regardless, I think that Pneuma Furina will always appear in promotions and drawings

[elfin hedge]

Seems

[elfin hedge]

I wouldn't make theories from that leak xd, most of the Story leaks are fakw

And possible to be fake if is froma random from a Chinese forum

[weary oriole]

Sorry, but I can't to not notice how much you hate Furina, you deny that Neuvillette said he was a dragon, which he is, only to see him as an archon

[stray loom]

what made arlecchino think neuvilette wasn't the archon?

i figured for furina it was because archons cant betray their idealism, and furina was more interested in drama than justice

but neuvilette is the chief judge and even his outfit is 100% symmetrical

maybe shes just built different

[smoky stag]

Tsaritsa set the standard up too high that her followers don't even consider dragons to have the majesty of an ideal god

Built different fr

[elfin hedge]

Wtf I never said Neuvillete is not a Dragon

What are you talking about?

He is the Hydro Dragon Sovereign

[stray loom]

not sovereign (yet)

[elfin hedge]

Yes he is, with our without the Authority they are sovereign

Same with Apep

Sovereigns is basically the Dragon leader of the element

[stray loom]

oh

[elfin hedge]

I dont see I'm denying him being Hydro Sovereing

And that only Searching "Hydro Sovereing" not Searching with Dragon

[tawdry blade]

Most of the story leak are fake yet this story leak make sense with the other info we have but leak is leak

[tawdry blade]

Literally this

[icy dagger]

the og CN text if anyone knows chinese lol

[elfin hedge]

Still pretty strange some things

"Hydro Dragon obtains power from the Primordial Sea"

Primordial sea was created by the Primordial One, why would the Hydro Sovereing obtain power from there?

[tawdry blade]

Primordial wasn't created by Primordial One

[broken sluice]

V2

Ousia represents the abyss, Pneuma represents Celestia, if we use HI3 terms, then Ousia is Quantum and Pneuma is Imaginary, they're kind of like corresponding elements. The plotline involving the 4.2 Weekly domain has a lot of spice into it, where Pneuma originated from Ousia itself, by which Celestia comes from the Abyss itself. Black costumed Furina is Ousia, and white is pneuma. In the domain we pick up archon possessed Furina who at the very end becomes dark, or corrupted by the abyss. The hydro dragon obtains powers over the Primordial Sea, the soul of Focalors goes to Furina's vision, but her concsiousness is merged with Furina, which makes Furina obtain the Ousia-Pneuma Vision, ascending her from an allogene to an actual archon. Arle obtains the gnosis. Speaking of which, in Neuvi's story quest about his vacation, you guys missed something... Also, in Furina's story quest, the corrupted Focalors is the one that talks to us the most, and Furina (White) doesn't talk much. The quest will dive deep into the lore. However, in future wholesome events, Furina will appear as her white costume verison.

Lore enthusiast translated

[tawdry blade]

Legend has it that the first of oceans had a composition similar to that of blood, and that life within it was not individual. To set foot upon land or take to the skies, life evolved blood vessels to keep that primordial ocean flowing within itself. The beating heart that commanded this primordial sea of blood was the first Hydro Dragon

[broken sluice]

Literally hydro sovereign remains

[weary oriole]

Maybe even now the leakers will leak cutscenes from 4.2 like they did last year for 3.2 when Nahida fought against Scaramouche

[tawdry blade]

What

I don't remember seeing that leak

[weary oriole]

There was a video posted on YouTube, I remember it well

Maybe 7 days before release or even earlier

[tawdry blade]

I will only expect the whale cutscene

[weary oriole]

So the Ousia version is corrupted?

[tawdry blade]

Maybe not

[weary oriole]

And where did the ousia version come from?

[tawdry blade]

I wonder what curse is Arlecchino talking about

[elfin hedge]

Primordial water was probably created by the shade of life, also Primordial One created the human from there

[tawdry blade]

It wasn't created by shade of life

Shade of life put Egeria heart in it

[weary oriole]

If I understand correctly, Furina Pneuma is no ordinary girl? Because if she was ordinary, she wouldn't have Pneuma power without vision and her hair glowing, right?

[tawdry blade]

Ofc she isn't normal but that question was asked here multiple time

[elfin hedge]

True, I was misunderstanding that but still, Sovereigns are older than Primordial water

[broken sluice]

Who are you fighting with

[elfin hedge]

So I don't think that Hydro Sovereing is linked except the Originak Sovereign did something with the Primordial Sea

[weary oriole]

It's known 😈

[elfin hedge]

Celestia coming from abyss?

[broken sluice]

Sounds weird but lets see

[tawdry blade]

Maybe pneuma is light that escape the abyss

Like how no light can escape blackhole

But in genshin case,it was able to

[elfin hedge]

That would literally change all the things we know about celestia

[broken sluice]

3.2 lore moment (massive revelations)

[tawdry blade]

Truly a plot twist

[elfin hedge]

Imagine that Phanes is like Elynas and Shades like Melusines

[tawdry blade]

If it true celestia came from abyss, then celestia is like something that balance the abyss but it left for some reason (like pneuma-ousia annihilate reaction)

But

[elfin hedge]

If celestia come from abbys and Celestia beat the light realm then there is no balance

[tawdry blade]

Celestia wasn't there when that happened though

[elfin hedge]

Celestia is the Primordial one from what we know so they were who beat the dragons

[tawdry blade]

"Why childe must die to save Fontaine" man these theorist want childe to die so bad

[icy dagger]

childe theories are always wild i saw one saying hes the incarnation of phanes or something

[hallow vine]

Kinda wild this zhongli wallet, turn into mr. world wide toy seller, and now he's somekind of big deal to fontaine/abyss lore

[tawdry blade]

What next? He is a descender?

[icy dagger]

childe is obviously the sustainer of heavenly principle smh

[stray loom]

childe imbibitor lunae

4.7 banner

[tawdry blade]

Childe is actually Primordial One's forgotten Child

[weary oriole]

Or an unknown god

[weary oriole]

And will the reincarnation of Guizhong happen or is that also false information

[atomic mirage]

That's what I theorized

[weary oriole]

Now I'm thinking, maybe Ousia Furina is hiding so the whale wouldn't find her, and this Pneuma Furina doesn't use powers either so the whale wouldn't feel it.

[atomic mirage]

That's why she didn't attack the alercchino, but why would an abyssal whale want to deal with an archon?

[weary oriole]

I'm not sure but I think she likes to fight, she challenged Traveler and maybe later realized she shouldn't do it just because of that

[atomic mirage]

A goddess who likes to fight, does she have anything to do with the child's master? If the whale is behind the body (ousia). Who knows she has something to do with the childe's master

Oh Archons

[weary oriole]

I would like Furina's hair to lighten a little more towards the blue color, it looks more like cryo here

[atomic mirage]

toothpaste hair

But why would a whale want the body of a god, especially furina?

[weary oriole]

Well, as I saw from translation, Ousia Furina has something to do with Abyss

And the whale is from Abyss

[atomic mirage]

Furina an anomaly, or a being that was born between the abyss and Celestia?

[hallow vine]

Wonder what skirk relation to the whale, like what's the point preparing childe for this moment, if childe seemingly missing in the next AQ

[stray loom]

probably help us fight the whale in the aq

its quite big dont you think

[atomic mirage]

If skirk controls the whale(?) She knows that there is something attracting the whale's attention, so she prepared the childe to help in this search

[stray loom]

right

[atomic mirage]

People disappeared from here~?

[weary oriole]

Furina’s hair and vision glows when her burst is ready

I just noticed that the other archons also have parts that glow when the burst is ready

[atomic mirage]

but that's the norm

every archon has hair that shines

[untold rain]

bald zhongli begs to differ

[tawdry blade]

Furina hair (pneuma) glow and stop then glow again when burst ready.

You can see it here

Also her weapon glowing effect are pretty cool

[atomic mirage]

She doesn't use great skills to make it shine, like the other archons

[tawdry blade]

None leaker have use her pneuma form and burst

Also,other archon hair glow a little when use skill

[atomic mirage]

to see this shape underwater

to see this shape underwaterto see this shape underwater

[tawdry blade]

??

[atomic mirage]

my translator is not the best

[atomic mirage]

??

[atomic mirage]

lol

[tawdry blade]

I don't watch too much American movie to know wtf is Deathly silence

[cold quail]

I just finished the Archon quest... I know there's still stuff to do in Meropide... Does another quest come up at some point? O.o

[untold rain]

theres a fairly long world quest in there

and then some smaller time gated ones after you finish the meropide world quest

[cold quail]

What triggers the world quest? O.O Or are you talking about the portion of the archon quest leading up to Neuvillette re-sealing the primordial sea and then talking with the Knave, etc?

[untold rain]

i was exploring before starting any quest and accidentally entered meropide

that started the world quest for me

but i ignored it and did the archon quest first

[cold quail]

Isn't what I just described PART of the archon quest?? O.o

[untold rain]

yes

[cold quail]

oh okay

[untold rain]

Unfished Comedy is the name of the meropide world quest

[cold quail]

yah I accidentally wound up in Meropide but the game allowed me to bow out gracefully when I got in those search lights outside underwater...

Ohhh okay

Yah, I just accepted Neuvillette's story quest and that quest is now locked.

With any new area I usually just turn off all of the quests and explore for hours and hours and hours...

[untold rain]

there should be an option to switch

[cold quail]

So I have my Fountain at level 25

[untold rain]

and to stop neuvillettes quest

they added that feature in 4.1

[cold quail]

nah... I'll do his quest. I have no problem with that. 🙂

[untold rain]

just sayin

[cold quail]

good to know tho. 🙂

[untold rain]

neuvillettes quest isnt all that long if i remember right

[cold quail]

ah.

that would be a shame

there is SO much I want to know about him!!

I had no clue what was happening when I got hauled inside! hehe

[atomic mirage]

[weary oriole]

Can someone translate this? Because google translate is not completely accurate

[atomic mirage]

Funina “are the tears of Oceania”

I translated it into my language and then into English, I don't know if it's correct, but where did you find this?

[weary oriole]

Twitter

[atomic mirage]

@ what it is?

[weary oriole]

I don't know, I was just scrolling Furina "#"

[atomic mirage]

Oh.

[icy dagger]

translation might quite literally be tears of oceania

[weary oriole]

Then it's fake for sure, I don't see any point

[icy dagger]

it might mean something more since the context is for genshin and if it means furina is the tear of egeria/primal sea or whatever they are trying to say it would make sense with her appearance ngl

[weary oriole]

Probably, but when I realize that her constellation is a tear, she has a tear shape on her suit, she is shown crying, then it must mean something

[icy dagger]

^ and shes almost guaranteed to have some relation to her predecessor egeria so it would make sense (but if she ends up being egerias tear i wonder if she would be the first tear or last one)

i hope her story is executed really well

[weary oriole]

Possibly, if the story is full of details, then it will be interesting

[atomic mirage]

Yes

[tawdry blade]

Legend has that the Oceanid were borned from Egeria tear

Maybe the legend were true afterall

Except she isn't Oceanid

Related to soul more

[icy dagger]

i wonder if she would be considered a lochfolk or oceanid

[tawdry blade]

Did the tower sank in the first picture?

Also alot of ruins

[livid vault]

Wow

This is probably bigger than 4.1’s

[broken sluice]

No, it should be there

[stray loom]

World quest

the tower goes really deep

[tawdry blade]

Maybe it is there before the last Narzissenkreuz world quest

But it will sink when we defeat jakob?

Unless those icon is the tower but it still make sense if it sank because the tower is floating

[broken sluice]

No, the tower not in the map is just private server issue

[tawdry blade]

Ic

[icy dagger]

i saw an interesting theory that furina never actually ascended to the hydro archon position fully

also if she is under a curse and she didnt do it to herself maybe egeria did it?

[weary oriole]

In order to understand everything, it is important to know what exactly we are talking about when we say “curse”

But we will find out in a MONTH

[icy dagger]

november 7/8th is so far away

[tawdry blade]

Sound like that one leak

Furina will become the true archon after merge with Focalors

[icy dagger]

[weary oriole]

But if she wasn't an archon until now, why did she present herself as an archon and why would she be chosen to share a body with Focalor?

And that she represents pneuma

[icy dagger]

second question depends on whether furina and focalors are the same person or whatevers going on with that

first question uh everyone knows focalors was successor to egeria

[tawdry blade]

Yes ,she left the prophecy for her

She WAS an archon until she split up

[tawdry blade]

You can read this one

You already saw that but seem like you forgot about it

[icy dagger]

it doesnt say much abt her hydro archon stuff just about focalors

focalors couldve just been a god not archon

i mean before whale fight

[icy dagger]

aidhusb like when she got hydro gnosis before she could actually become an archon she shoved it in the oratrice or something is what i thought

[atomic mirage]

And the fontaine statue is like a furina and As focalors

[tawdry blade]

She have to solve the prophecy right after Egeria so she definitely have to do something else before making the Oratrice

[icy dagger]

thw statues dont actually have to be the current archons we dont know until we see egeria

[tawdry blade]

Gnosis is just like a trophy,own it doesn't mean you're an archon

Archon is well,stronger god

[icy dagger]

idk archons have a sort of blurred definition

[tawdry blade]

Archon we seen so far have ability that is much mlre stronger than any other god

In egeria case

She was connected with the Primordial Sea by Shade of Life

Which easily make her strong

[atomic mirage]

I read something different, that it might be corrupted to focalors, or something relevant, I'll send it to you, I don't know if it's true or not

- Possible Spoilers for 4.2 (complete)
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1. For comparison: Ousia = Quantum (Abyss) / Pneuma = Imaginary (Celestia)

2. Black Furina (Folcalors) is Ousia and White Furina is Pneuma. Boss Whale wants White Furina's Body (Archon Version)

3. The Heavenly Principles came from the Abyss.

4. Pneuma originated from Ousia, as the 2 were originally just a single force/energy.

5. The Hydro Dragon obtains the power of the primordial sea, Focalors' soul returns to the Vision to avoid Furina's corruption/curse (?), her consciousness merges with Furina's and Furina obtains the Hydro Pneumosia vision, they they pass from Proto-Archon to Archon. Arlecchino wants/obtained Gnosis.

6. In the Furina/Focalors Legendary Mission, Focalors will talk more, Furina won't have much to say. The quest will delve more into the main plot. In the future, Furina will still be the one who appears in General/Group stories.

7. The World quest "Melusine's Question and the Machine's Answer" will have something about Sandrone, where the Ending leaves an allusion to the film "Deadly Screams". Key points include, but are not limited to: Intelligent Machines, Human Persecution.

Note: The world boss that has the mechanic that makes the character jump higher is the result of the combination of the energies of Pneuma and Ousia.||

[icy dagger]

yeah but that was egeria we dont know anything (aside from the story leaks) about focalors

[tawdry blade]

If Focalor is her successor,she must be strong as well

[icy dagger]

why have i seen like one version saying the black one is furina, others saying its focalors

[icy dagger]

nahida isnt as strong as rukka

wait no

i didnt read that

ignore what i said

[tawdry blade]

Arkhe(pneuma/ousia) Arkhium (gravity) hmm

[atomic mirage]

I don't even know anymore, what is what

[tawdry blade]

This is exactly what harunachan said

Except some part

[weary oriole]

Maybe Focalors didn't split herself, maybe it's that curse

[icy dagger]

how they gonna deal with the merge, like two seperate personas?

[tawdry blade]

Old leak said it curse of immortality

[icy dagger]

oh i remember that but story has changed and it doesnt make too much sense imo

[tawdry blade]

Or curse from the Heavenly Principle

[atomic mirage]

This one says she is corroding herself (?) Is she a being from the abyss?

[tawdry blade]

These leak story are pretty confusing,it better wait

[icy dagger]

corruption/tainted from abyss i heard

[icy dagger]

wait whats the source for this leak

did someone translate it personally

[tawdry blade]

Translate

[atomic mirage]

My friend said it came straight from the game files

[tawdry blade]

They translate it wrong

[icy dagger]

just seen like 4 diff translations floating around

[tawdry blade]

No way that is true

[atomic mirage]

I just put it in English

[tawdry blade]

There no such thing

Only possible if it insider info

[icy dagger]

no such thing as it coming from the game files?

[tawdry blade]

It only there if there is preload

[icy dagger]

might be speculation based on whale boss, story etc

actually the whale boss fight probably gave 80% of this info

[tawdry blade]

Every preload, people can check the update file

[icy dagger]

people always find ways to leak stuff

someone leaked all of sumerus AQ pretty accurately i heard

[weary oriole]

I think that when they wanted to capture the Focalors, the Abyss army, that the Facolrs split up so they wouldn't capture her so the Ousia form was captured

[icy dagger]

captured is an interesting way to put it

think its more she got corrupted/tainted by the abyss i heard

[atomic mirage]

But why capture her?

[icy dagger]

who wouldnt want the body of a god

but the leaks do specify its only the white form they want which is a bit weird

[weary oriole]

Because she has a connection with the Primordial Sea, and they might need that power

[icy dagger]

wait no

[atomic mirage]

That's what's interesting, her being the first case of a Corrupted Archon (?)

[icy dagger]

she didnt have a black form prior im an idiot

[icy dagger]

venti was sort of poisoned

dvalin

[icy dagger]

there was that other leak saying she was the (this is the google translate) “tear of oceania”

[weary oriole]

She certainly has strong ties to the Primordial Sea, I’m 100% sure

[atomic mirage]

Her black form did not make her recognized as an Archon, so she had to use another method to become an archon but I don't know why, the whale wants the Pneuma form

[icy dagger]

ayo where did this come from

i mean black form not recognised as archon

it makes sense tho since black form would be corrupted with abyss and obv that couldnt be an archon

[atomic mirage]

Copy of mine

[atomic mirage]

Yes

[weary oriole]

But for me the Pneuma form will always be the true archon. Just because of the hair that glows. Also, as I saw in the leaks, it was said that the Pneuma form will participate in all important events. And the official drawings will certainly show us the Pneuma form

[icy dagger]

ah it would be really interesting if the prophecy did end up coming true

[icy dagger]

wait wouldnt it make more sense white form is focalors not the black one

[atomic mirage]

Yes, I wanted that, but it won't happen

[weary oriole]

That's what I said

[icy dagger]

i hope theres some fanfic written about it or something

[atomic mirage]

Me too

[icy dagger]

ah sorry leak just confused me

theres like 2 other translations calling the white one focalors? wait ima find them

[atomic mirage]

Many people change what they call it

[icy dagger]

NOOOOOOOO THE BLACK ONE IS CORRUPTED FOCALORS

[atomic mirage]

I didn't understand

[icy dagger]

black form in splash art is corrupted focalors and she seems to only appear in story quest, in future just furina white model

its almost 3 am i think im going a bit insane i am going to go now goodbye it was fun talking

[atomic mirage]

We know that the black furina will only appear to the traveler because he will help her, the rest of things politics are up to the white furina

[atomic mirage]

Until

[tawdry blade]

Ah yes she look so corrupted that she look joyful

Ousia Furina

[atomic mirage]

The only way to hide the pain is to smile

I'm joking, but I think it's playable, this corruption will be stopped

[tawdry blade]

I think it could be true but at the same time I think not

[atomic mirage]

We will only know when it launches, and we will also know its pain

[weary oriole]

Furina's drip marketing is in the story quest picture, except that it is Ousia form, which has a smile, but with a closed mouth

[atomic mirage]

Her legendary mission is with a closed smile, I think this will be her new drip

🤔

[tawdry blade]

Just say story quest

[weary oriole]

He uses a translator, so the words are sometimes not correct

[atomic mirage]

Yes

[atomic mirage]

For me, character history and legendary missions are what's in the game

Main story is Archon mission

[tawdry blade]

Is it that hard to use "story"

It 5 sen

Compare to 7 sentences

[atomic mirage]

[atomic mirage]

But did you understand right?

[weary oriole]

I still have hope that we will get two splash art for Furina, also, I would add that the icon of the character on the right side changes in relation to her form, throughout the game it is the icon for Furina Ousia

[atomic mirage]

Yes! like Seele has in Honkai Impact!!! I want that

[weary oriole]

Is it true that when Lisa reads a book, her life is shortened

[atomic mirage]

?????

[weary oriole]

“Treat them as not quite supporting characters but they have their own path that we can get deeper and explore on. For example, the caster Lisa. She touched a magic book when she was young that gave her most of her powers but it cut her life by half so she only has a few years left to live. It creates a very carefree personality of someone that just wants to live life”.

[tawdry blade]

Thing is Traveler might just remove that curse from her in her story quest 2

And yes it true

Her constellation telling us