・genshin-spoilers

[broken sluice]

im talking in the POV that i played the quest and noticed the fuckery without even manipulating it at first

[granite quest]

Youre rambling. I aint judging genshin. Im just talking about the silhouette.

And again, youre assuming i play only genshin

[tired ice]

I think I've already mentioned the fact that I'm not talking about the silhouette itself but generally everything in genshin

and it's obvious you only play genshin

[granite quest]

I think you need to sleep

[tired ice]

no one who plays other top aaa games would think a studio worth billions would make a game like genshin

[dusty quest]

HYV is 100% cutting corners with Genshin at this point, even compared to their other work. Sure you could argue that the stylistic choices of Honkai are vastly different, but it's also a demonstration of what they could do if they actually gave a crap about more than the money.

[tired ice]

genshin is cool and it has nice visuals mostly but the story telling and lazy shit like this from a company that earns 500 million per month is just outright wrong

[granite quest]

Keep rambling like that and maybe youll earn a reward

[tired ice]

listen complaining about a game isn't bad. Complaints are actually good for the game.

[granite quest]

You lose your argument when you start assuming what the player is like lmao

[tired ice]

I'm not even arguing with you u literally popped outta nowhere

[granite quest]

I just commented on the silhouette. It was your choice to reply or not lel

Still doesnt change the fact youre assuming a genshin player only plays genshin

[tired ice]

a player who'd settle for shit like the white text on black background and 2d shit like this, its obvious they dont play high quality games

[granite quest]

Yeah you really are just saying shit to say shit

[tired ice]

i've never ever seen a game do the white text on black background. They literally earn 500 mil or more a month yet they cant pull off a flashback

[wet matrix]

I agree should have been 3d but i think 2d give apep a distinct look, like he is fading ao i dont know

So it could have been an artistic choice

[granite quest]

Understandable

[tired ice]

exactly my point, they could do SOOO much more

yet they choose not to

[marble blade]

I played super mario galaxy :clueless:

if you ignore the skybox things like the toy galaxy has real objects in the background instead of 2d objects

[tired ice]

i've never played any mario games but if that's true then thats unreal

a game made pre 2010 with attention to detail is almost unheard of except for a select few

[marble blade]

yeah super mario galaxy is amazing

but the skybox is jank

it goes up to a certain point and after that there's void

[tired ice]

though it has to be said that 2d is not always bad. It's okay for studios to use 2d images instead of 3d objects in certain situations and it's to be expected from low profit indie devs, not a top aaa company like hoyo

[marble blade]

I wouldn't call nintendo an indie comoany tbh

[tired ice]

yeah definitely not but theres games that still use 2d to this day but as i said, they're usually indie

[marble blade]

and idr if the black holes for when you falk off the map is a 3d object or now

but in the observatory all the planets near it are real objects

ofc some of them don't have collision and if you use bugs or cheats to get to them you can get stuck on a gravity loop

but the fact that they even bothered to give them that attention is insane

2007 game btw

genshin was launched 13 years later

[tired ice]

yeah well its incredibly disappointing that a company like hoyo, who has access to and the resources to make their game near perfect, choose not to

the 2d image of apep isnt even the worst example of this, the worst example imo is the white text over black background storytelling sequence that they do

like you really cant afford to animate 30-1 min long cutscenes to visualize important lore?

the storytelling in this game is utter garbage sometimes and they don't even bother putting voiceovers in quests that has actual good stories such as the aranara quests and even the recent pari quest

again, this would be acceptable from an indie studio with limited resources and manpower, not from a company like hoyo that earns billions per year

[pulsar zealot]

She sounds jealous

[strange oxide]

who is amun

[muted lake]

Deshret

[untold rain]

why does everyone and everything have 5 different names in this game

i need a list of all synonmys to keep track at this point

[clever gull]

me asf

me at night

sleeping peacefully

happy

moisturized

in my own lane

balling

‼️

wait this shit isnt even on the SR where is this

[signal mirage]

not much

deshret is inspired by amun from mythology

its easy pick

[mystic coyote]

fan made? i know it's a silly thing to ask but you never know

[rare knoll]

anyone noticing that floating platform is getting closer?

ig there’s a chance it’ll be right above fontaine

[mystic coyote]

can't wait to get to Fontaine just in time to see it get nailed

[signal mirage]

i think celestia is right above natlan

[mellow burrow]

im having a love hate relationship with the new ruin area

i love the storyline hate the fights

i hate ruin graders and all the othwr bloody ruin creatures

i DESPISE them

[untold rain]

i think its just us who is getting closer

[untold rain]

isnt natlan to the west of sumeru

[signal mirage]

ah true

i mistaked the location

[lusty crest]

Celestia should be above Fontaine based on our current knowledge

[tired ice]

it's not getting closer, you're getting closer to it

[shell spire]

its celestia

[tough tide]

is this new enemy type or just a reskin??

[icy dagger]

Does venti have a tragic backstory?

[tired ice]

have u not done the prologue quest?

[icy dagger]

which one

[lusty crest]

just do his Story Quest and you'll find out

[tawdry blade]

His friend died and that is all

Nothing too "tragic" ,just sad incident

[tawdry blade]

New ofc

[tawdry blade]

Like that will ever happens,funny how people expect the whole sumeru city is fake just because of the first trailer show that the tree is burn and the city is disappearing

A region city will never begone,it just fact at this point

[tawdry blade]

Fanmade lol

[tawdry blade]

Why make 3d model of a dragon we will never able to see unless we glitch out? It is literally a waste of resources and a waste of space,it can take 100MB just to add that 3d model. Being billionaire doesn't mean you have to add unnecessary stuff that player can't see without cheat/glitch

You have to remember genshin is still a mobile game, maybe if it wasn't then black text cutscene won't be a thing,PC player complain about the most common shit ever

[tawdry blade]

Oh no! A huge open world game don't have some high quality stuff unlike other game with unavailable area you can't explore has high quality. I wish genshin was never a mobile game dam

My gosh ,you mf really compare a game with no monthly update (basically finished product,like gow,elden, cyberpunk mention) to a fucking game that still continue and the amount of space require in the future is still unknown

Genshin player find the most random excuse to criticise:
They are smart enough to use PoV instead of making full model

To put it short,stop expecting unrealistic request from a fucking "mobile game" I know it fit better for PC and PS but it is what it is,have you ever heard of some player can't play genshin because they are out of space? Maybe that is why you are so clueless like an NPC

"wow can't believe genshin ("mobile game" with monthly update,is still unfinished and take shit ton of space) isn't like elden ring,gow,cyberpunk (pc,ps and games with no monthly update,sometime dlc but not as big, finished)

Don't even says that I never played top AAA game,I already played HzD,GoW on PlayStation,it a fun experience but too bad,once you finished the game,there nothing you can do other than achievement hunting but that shit also boring

This criticism is just dogshit man,maybe if it was something related to quality of life then sure I guess, because that I can agree with,but this is not it "white knight" uh sure I guess having common sense and observing and understand the reason behind something make you a whiteknight

This map give good vibe

Because sumeru is when genshin improve, atleast we know mondstad expansion will have something cool as desert

That direction is Natlan lol, usually volcanoes are on island,it is possible for natlan to be half islands half land

The part where we go into 3 domain inside the tree is creepy as hell,the background and the visual is just creepy

Layla hangout was cute and relatable, only that I never study at home,but at school.

[sinful summit]

https://twitter.com/eliorioo/status/1647400873683812353?t=mgOkUM-7niEbeyAnrvld-A&s=19

elio (@eliorioo)

haven’t played nahida’s second story quest yet? here’s a quick and easy tldr

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LMAOOOOO

[icy dagger]

omg i forgot about that

[summer locust]

Well said. 👍

[left shore]

Ok ok, the world quest got me

It's very beautiful... damn...

I miss Lumine

[brave sigil]

So, where's this archon quest?

[summer locust]

At this point. I am starting to think that title is placeholder. From Sumeru onwards.

[tawdry blade]

Mhy often change their plan,

It outdated name

When people speculate it being chapter when the Irminsul is burn is just funny,love seeing people coping and agrue with me about it,look who's right now?

Wanna download again reddit to mock them but eh

[weary oriole]

ajax

that means all unreleased nations can have an error and inaccuracy in chapter titles

that means theorycrafting about them is useless

[tawdry blade]

Maybe some will while other stay

Fontaine title name sound valid enough,I don't think they will change it

Meanwhile sumeru outdated name is hard to understand for me ig,idk why it called truth amongst the "pages of purana",it sound like something related to desert rather than nahida

Fontaine theory crafting still fine though,for a region that is closed to celestia and many description we got so far from those npc and event

[mystic coyote]

interestingly, in Chinese the Fontaine chapter title translates to "The Sinner's Whirling Dance Steps"

or something similar

[weary oriole]

bro do you think the nymph's dream seat is going to be the hydro archon's artifact set ?
the design looks very fontaine and the color palette is prob gonna be same with focalors

[lusty crest]

Judging from leaks, Focalors doesn't have the same colour palette as Nymph's Dream. So lore wise, it's tied to Fontaine, but not necessarily Focalors personally

[livid vault]

Nymphs dream color pallette is probably previous hydro archon right?

[weary oriole]

is it confirmed that focalors is that little tsundere girl like tatsumaki frm one punch man, i still dont want to believe it

i also recall a leak for one of the chars having the ability to manipulate gravity , was that focalors too ?

[novel bear]

Yeah apparently

It was most likely a rough Bastardization of the actual leak

[weary oriole]

are azdaha, dvalin , apep the sovereign dragons that fought the primordial one ?

who was the the primordial dragon from inazuma ?

hmm raidens policy not to take prisoner prob holds up

[wild steeple]

I swear every new weekly boss theme is an even bigger banger than the previous

[brave sigil]

IMAGINE IF WE HAVE BRAT ARCHON PERSONALITY 😭 💢

[brave sigil]

Only Apep so far (it's a dendro dragon).

[summer locust]

Maybe? Since Nahida did mentioned that Focalors has a very "unique personality" with little hesitation tone. So, it kinda implies she is not normal lol. If that blue and white outfit girl is truly Focalors then I can imagine she is that type will stomp on your feet if you make her mad.

[summer locust]

Yes is time for bratty archon. Maybe this justify the reasons why Oceanics literally yeeted themselves out. 😂

[weary oriole]

plss dont, thats actually my most disliked typed of char in anime

the tsundere kid

[summer locust]

Hahaha I mean I was just guessing anyway. Still not sure what kind of person she is. Could be totally from what we imagine.

[weary oriole]

it’s like saying Husk is meant for Wanderer lol @weary oriole

don’t count on it just yet

husk matches itto's color no ?

lore wise it’s about scaramouche. So was Pale Flame partially. But Wanderer def wants neither of them.

he gets a set related to Deshret instead as his BiS

which is fine ofc

fwiw

at least we know Focalors will obv be hydro

but that’s it

ohh

yeah, was just wondering cause of the color palette

also kinda sus that they released a hydro set right before the release of hydro archon

[lusty crest]

Apep is a Sovereign. For Dvalin and Azhdaha it's unknown but they're the closest thing we have to an Anemo and Geo dragon respectively. As for the Electro dragon, we don't know anything on it yet but Inazuma had crumbs on the Hydro dragon instead in Enkanomiya. My headcanon is that the Electro dragon is the entity sealed off under Kannazuka by the Sakura trees but honestly there's no way to know for now

[weary oriole]

i was thinking that the electro dragon is probably another of raidens casualty

[broken sluice]

tcg animations 3.7
||https://streamable.com/efnqlk||

[summer locust]

I wish the electro dragon is hidden somewhere between liyue and inazuma. Just so can fill in the empty vast of space right there!!! Like helloooo my ocd.

But that being said, it will be interesting if hydro dragon and electro dragon swap places. Fontaine and Inazuma.

[sick topaz]

omg ventea animation slaps
hu tao's too
They're so cuuute (inc. Nahida)

[lone sable]

I’m pretty sure the electro dragon was that serpent

which died lol

all of them were contaminated in some sort of way, it was only orobashi who died because Ei didn’t try resolving it diplomatically ig

since you know the serpent was following orders

[ornate sundial]

I doubt a dragon sovereign would take orders from Celestia

[sharp steppe]

Does anybody has this bugged Apep silhouette from outside the desert?

[weary oriole]

unless they were forced to submission

[weary oriole]

@broken sluice

[signal mirage]

is there a story about this small ruin hunter

[high charm]

in the final part of sumeru archon quest when Nahida erased greater lord rukkadevata we saw that the previous dendro archon was of the same height as Nahida, practically looking the same. but in the latest Nahida story quest when we save the mushroom from the Chasm, it says that Nahida is small again and we have a 'cutscene' with a big dendro archon. so what is with that inconsistency?

[clever gull]

Nahida was rhat big dendro archon and she became small when she user her power to quell the forbidden knowledge in Deshret’s kingdom

Mightve been Rukkhadevata originally but now its told that it was Nahida

[topaz thunder]

Ranveer is right. Erasing memories isn't the same as erasing history, so these all happened except they just labeled it as "nahida before she used all of her power and became small"

[harsh gull]

Levi farted

[tawdry blade]

It is said that when Rukka used too much power she become smaller,not because she used it to stop the forbidden knowledge

[tawdry blade]

Because she look small,and alot of sumeru people also know that the dendro archon get smaller when used too much power,that why they don't question why their god is small like a child

I wonder why Primordial one didn't just kill all the dragon but only the king,get rid of potential threat,I guess PO is kind..

[weary oriole]

inb4 wasn’t meant for her

im gonna bet on it, im gonna prefarm now

[nimble rock]

actually yeah ive alwasy wondered what the deal with this is

[lusty crest]

Must be a sized down one. Keep in mind that most things in Genshin are made smaller on purpose

Just look at how small cities feel like

[lusty crest]

That's assuming you know which stat she's scaling off of. Realistically, it would probably be HP but you never know, Hoyo likes to change everything and break every pattern

[weary oriole]

nahh, judging from the arti, itd be the classic atk scaling char, soo atk sands hydro goblet crit circlet

but tbh, they prob gonna make a new set for focalors, im also gonna bet itll be an hp scaling arti /kit

[left shore]

please let me in

I want to see some Khaenri'ah girl

if they were exist

[sick topaz]

Using a glitch with Sorush... the space behind that door is empty

[left shore]

😭

[tawdry blade]

I wish more people are aware of this,like "WOW apep is bigger than sumeru!"Nah bro,and those stupid ass theory about flat teyvat just because we can see inazuma from distance,it common sense that how it work

[tawdry blade]

Forget about Khaenri'ah ladies, embrace Celestia ladies

[left shore]

Uhh, yeah, UG more ero than other

[tawdry blade]

I wonder how Focalor ability will actually work. Archon are getting better each region so I have high expectation

[clever gull]

tsunami type move would be fucking cool no

applies nahida levels of hydro (i know nothing about elemental gauge or whatever its called)

[wise night]

lmao wait is the “wisdom seelie” in Layla’s hangout quest nahida? I feel like it is

sorry for speculating idk if that’s allowed here

[tawdry blade]

Its layla,but you probably know already ig

[wise night]

huh

nah i didnt, i only got one ending which is her saying that yeah

but it doesnt really make sense

[gray path]

is she... playable very soon???

[lusty crest]

Layla has a split personality that emerges when she's too stressed. She herself isn't aware of it but that personality is the one doing most of Layla's job which is why Layla calls her Wisdom Seelie

[wise night]

ooooohhhhhh

i understand now

I think one of her idle animations kind of implies that too

[wise night]

man I really like how mihoyo wrote layla and her DID

the traveler isn’t judgemental about it and is like “ok cool” when alter Layla appears

even though layla has DID her actions and personality makes her feel like any other normal person

thank you mihoyo for normalizing being chill with people regardless of their mental issues

oh right I also like how alter layla explains why…she exists and how she wants to protect the other layla. I think it helps me understand why people have alters

[tough tide]

how does paimon general reaction tho??

[weary oriole]

OML YOU JUST MADE ME REALIZE WHAT SHE HAS

IT WAS ON THE TIP OF MY TONGUE BCS I DIDNT REMEMBER THE TERM

BUT IT MAKES SENSE NOW

[wise night]

mhm! really cool mihoyo did that ngl

[wise night]

paimon never shows up throughout the story quest... i didnt realize until you asked about her LOL

[tough tide]

thank youu

[wise night]

yuh!

[lusty crest]

yes the one where she's asleep and starts writing smth, it's also mentioned in her profile iirc

[tired ice]

how abt u embrace deez nuts

[gusty oar]

What's the relationship between the Unknown God, Primordial One, and the Heavenly Principles? Are they one and the same?

[tawdry blade]

Still unknown but we know for sure Amosday the unknown god and Primordial One is different

[gusty oar]

I just got curious because all this time, what I know is Unknown God is not the Heavenly Principles, but somebody on reddit claimed they are the same.

[broken sluice]

has to do something with the trinity in some religions: being Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer. creator (PO), sustainer (Unknown God)

crack stuff

But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend.```

[clever gull]

or creator sustainer destroyer

[weary oriole]

apep still being salty cause they got 1 v 7'd by a random in their own turf

[lusty crest]

It was actually 5 v 7 but the point still stands

[weary oriole]

ohh, i thought primordial one created the pillars after the battle

to help him rule teyvat or sumthin

[peak badge]

woa wenut slayer cannon

[lusty crest]

He created the Shades to aid him in battle and then terraform the Human Realm and guide them

[wind crystal]

Ez event

Not as easy as the parry one

But ez

[tawdry blade]

Can't wait for aether and lumine become the new god of teyvat ,if there is no genshin 2

[tawdry blade]

Tbh,if he can create 4 powerful shade,he alone is still very overpower but I guess he can't fight a king and 6 normal dragon all at once

[tawdry blade]

Never trust reddit if it just a theory with no confirmation. Mhy never give obvious answer "the sky is fake" meant something else because we all know mhy love giving hint but do the opposite

[karmic depot]

where is located the gates of khaenri'ah?

[left shore]

Down the ruin machines thing

you have to do the quest to unlock it

Go to very bottom of the ruin like machines it requires quest

[clever gull]

how do I turn in stuff into the pond thing

I unlocked it but theres no prompt for anything

[left shore]

the "Pari"

?

[broken sluice]

amrita pool

[queen drift]

I just found a new bow and I am confused that which bow is better windblume or ibis piercer

For tighnari

[tired ice]

that may be unknown but deez nuts shouldn't be unknown to you

[nocturne stag]

Probably windblume because it gives more em but it honestly depends

[wind crystal]

They are just the sustainer

[gusty oar]

I still have no idea where that reddit user got such info that claims that the Heavenly Principles is the Unknown God or her power.

[wind crystal]

It's pretty obvious they arent the same

[gusty oar]

Exactly. There wasn't even a timeline provided that states the date of appearance of the Unknown God. Yeah, when did she even first appear? At the inception of the Heavenly Principles as she was the Sustainer? 🤷‍♂️

[signal mirage]

i sometimes wonder of genshin's end

people spent lotsa money here

i dont think they would want to finish the game

i dont know about developer and creator tho

i just make a guess

[severe mountain]

i think u can look at the "finale" of hi3 as a reference for that

i just hope they end the story right and dont make it a convoluted mess like all gacha games end up being

[weary oriole]

I just hope the Teyvat chapter ends properly and conclusively enough on its own. Anything that comes after should just be a bonus or extension with a new lead imo.

[severe mountain]

exactly. i love genshin's story and lore because it all feels so planned out, and i hope they stay with that vision and end it properly instead of making any weird decisions like bringing characs back or diff realities just to bank on the gacha possibilities

im curious what everyone here thinks abt playable characs dying for the story even tho itll never happen

[weary oriole]

I’d say we’re not at that point in the story for that to happen yet

[severe mountain]

closest we've gotten is prolly perilous trail

[weary oriole]

if any deaths are gonna happen or permanent yeets with playables, it’s gonna be best saved in the endgame of the story. Moreso when we face off against celestia and the sustainer again.

[clever gull]

Venti being mad sus is strange because hes playable

If he really is uberpowerful and stuff its a bit off to have him playable unless he ascends or something idk

Because he has connections with celestia, bypasses irminsul sussery, and is friends with istaroth or whatever

So its strange that we just have him around in the party ykwim

[weary oriole]

i doubt hoyoverse will kill characters and made them unplayable

so many people have spent too much money and time building a character

it will cause an outrage

[severe mountain]

thats just more stakes

but realistically yea it wont happen lol

as much as i'd like them to just suck up the outrage like they did w dehya, they wont do that (can they even do it legally)

[muted lake]

“Suck up the outrage like they did with Dehya” Or maybe they don’t release shit characters, that might be preferable

Maybe don’t normalize devs making useless kits

Also there’s no legal way to stop a character from dying in a story and that wouldn’t make them unplayable (no gacha game does that) since they aren’t canonically playable in the first place aside from some quests

[severe mountain]

im not defending hoyo lol but they didn't give into the outrage cus then there'd be the same outrage anytime a new charac wasnt completely broken

[muted lake]

The outrage wasn’t the usual doom post of “oh they don’t do 3000 gajillion damage Nuke” it was “They made a fundamentally broken kit that does basically nothing”
That’s justified to criticize

[severe mountain]

the charac dying but still being playable isnt what i was talking abt but thatd be easier n what theyd prolly do

[muted lake]

Yes I know and I said they won’t do that

[severe mountain]

not saying it isnt justified, but theyre a company ur trying to reason with a company

[muted lake]

Legality is one aspect, would you ever pull for a character knowing any minute they could be taken away from you? It’s a stupid business decision

[muted lake]

Yes and the only way companies do what you want them to is by customers pressuring them into doing something

I’m all for outrage if it means no more Dehya like kits

[severe mountain]

theyre prolly (surely) not gonna release another charac as useless as dehya but theyre likely not gonna fix dehya and normalize the idea that enough outrage can fix ur fav characs flaws

[muted lake]

I never said anything about fixing Dehya? I said I support the outrage in this case because it’s justified to be angry to be sold a product that is basically worthless, and that’s what they did with Dehya.

Also never say never about them releasing another Dehya, because if they get away with it once they’ll do it again

[weary oriole]

no one in this industry will do sth that insane. Period.

The closest i’ve seen this happen with is Musashi in FGO who technically is “Data Lost” in her game profile, but you can still use her whenever and roll for her on a paid gaurenteed banner anyway.

[obsidian coral]

you have to get 6 of the orange plant bud things first then only you can start turning in

[obsidian coral]

if they do they have to get ready for a lawsuit

[wind crystal]

Guaranteed*

[weary oriole]

you can only use those banners for 15 paid sq

You'll see in your material area / when using a roll option what your paid / free split is.

[wind crystal]

Calm down I was just.correcting you-

[weary oriole]

I am calm. I’m just adding context to why I added ‘paid’ too. Since not everyone here plays or has played fgo.

you can’t get Musashi without swiping 😔 (well same goes for a some others but you get what I mean)

[wind crystal]

U just spelt guaranteed wrong-

[weary oriole]

ah auto fill moment lol

but thanks, mb

[minor saddle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/12y5clo/the_new_couple_in_the_wenut_event/

[peak badge]

pog wenut slayer cannon

[round brook]

Which sumeru act do we get to see the divine will cutscene?

[left shore]

fogor

[tawdry blade]

Crazy how people still think a playable character will be killed ,maybe there will BUT after the twin leaves teyvat,it will never show in game,maybe in a dream that is part of the plot like nahida quest

[lusty crest]

The what ? Are you referring to the Celestial Nail ?

[woeful wyvern]

|| https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/821571665431494687/1101034697334726737/Screenshot_20230427-140023.png ||

[minor saddle]

BUSTED

[tawdry blade]

First act already got me curious who tf is that npc aside the crown

Is it just me or the butterflies look like those in nahida trailer

Swiftflies look like something that would be in Fontaine puzzle lol

[signal mirage]

its canon now

also

||dori's sidekick is speaking just like her in japanese voice||

[sharp steppe]

Nahida is a troll

[signal mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/dookie-oomfie-nahida-genshin-gif-26816820

i knew she is a troll since we stuck in the same day

[sharp steppe]

Signing Scara under Hat Guy name is a high level of trolling

Imagine anyone who was accepting that documents

[pine thistle]

||he really does have a hat tho||

[storm valley]

https://shipping.fandom.com/wiki/Hailou

[weary oriole]

hailou

nice

moving on

[tawdry blade]

Any genshin character: help pick up something
Average player:

[weary oriole]

do they really add the logo lol

[novel bear]

Yes, they gave everyone a Harbinger intro

It was funny

[scenic verge]

do we have any overworld hangouts this time

[mellow burrow]

best event ever

[pine thistle]

yes

[novel bear]

Don Sombrero

[mellow burrow]

THATS SO ICONIC

[ornate sundial]

Is that real? Or just an edit?

[weary oriole]

Reallll

It really comes up with hat guy 😭

[ornate sundial]

Oh I meant Don Sombrero?

[wild steeple]

Has anyone else found it pretty ominous that you're supposed to find ropes on a forest tree?

[topaz thunder]

oh my god I never thought about it like that.

[tawdry blade]

Nothing happened in Spring Vale , Nothing happened in Spring Vale

[mellow burrow]

i just started this damn event and kavehs domain is pissing me off

[mellow burrow]

there are no [REDACTED]s in Sumeru City

[mellow burrow]

kavehs domain in the event is frustrating me SO MUCH. can anyone change the height of the items in the domain? i play mobile with bluetooth console and cant change the object height?

[mellow burrow]

update: i did it

[novel bear]

It's real. Every text language has its own variation on it. I remember seeing the Indonesian one a bit ago

[ornate sundial]

Oh that's even funnier then

[weary oriole]

soo, where are the six main school of the academiya based on ?
like is it based on a culture or a book ?

[tawdry blade]

Maybe none? Since 6 of them study different thing,just like real life, without that middle eastern name

[tired ice]

how abt u study 2 of deez nuts

[lusty crest]

The names of the 6 Darshans are based on the Amesha Spenta. It's a group of 7 divinities that emanated from Ahura Mazda (which is the highest entity in Zoroastrianism) :

Amurta comes from Ameretat, Rtawahist comes from Asha Vahishta, Spantamad comes from Spenta Armaiti, Haravatat comes from Haurvatat, Vahumana comes from Vohu Manah and Khahrewar comes from Khatra Vairya. Each god represents and rules over a concept but i'm too lazy to list them all

[weary oriole]

i never understood and of those words bro, are these from egyptian culture ?

[lusty crest]

middle eastern culture

Zoroastrianism is mainly an Iranian religion

[weary oriole]

owo

persia ?

[lusty crest]

around that area yeah

[weary oriole]

i wonder if they still practice that religion in modern day iran, but were kinda delving off topic

[lusty crest]

it's still practiced but very much in decline (about 100k followers according to wikipedia) as most Zoroastrians got into Islam (which is the most prominent religion in Iran cause Iran is an Islamic Republic)

and Iran also prohibits going from Islam to Zoroastrianism (being Zoroastrianist from the beginning seems to be fine tho)

[weary oriole]

ive little to no knowledge about the middle east
soo the old empire persia used to be practiced zoroastrian , then what happened ?

how did they turn into the muslim nation of iran

the ancient iraq followed a different religion too right ?

[lusty crest]

There was the muslim conquest of persia which led to the decline of the zoroastrian religion

[weary oriole]

ahh holdon, damn, mesopotamia is even more ancient

8k bc

was wondering if they gonna use mesopotamian culture for natlan

[lusty crest]

well technically, mesopotamia is simply a region so it's still there

[lusty crest]

I doubt that, from what we currently know, Natlan seems to have African and Spanish/Latino American roots

[weary oriole]

owo

aztec

[lusty crest]

could be an inspiration yeah

hoping for the Pyro Sovereign to be a Quetzalcoatl

[weary oriole]

i have high hopes for natlan

[lusty crest]

i just want them to have a good excuse for not giving us any relevant lore about it for the past 3 years

aside from the whole Venessa situation and what Venti told us about Murata, there's pretty much nothing to know about

[weary oriole]

what is the name of the 7th darshan? btw

[lusty crest]

if you're referring to the 7th deity from the Amesha Spenta, he's called Spenta Mainyu. Afaik, there's no reference to it in Genshin

Tho we encounter another branch of the Akademiya (other than the 6 Darshans) called Nagarjunites in the Girdle of the Sands. It's a branch that believes in "the transmission of knowledge at all costs" and that conflict is the natural order of Teyvat. They split themselves from the Akademiya at some point and they're also relevant to the plot of "Khvarenah of Good and Evil"

[weary oriole]

nagarjunites are all members of the "order of skeptics" right?

[clever gull]

yuh

[lusty crest]

yeah, it's just one of their other names

[viscid oriole]

/start

[cold quail]

I have the entirety of Sumeru at 100% exploration! 🙂

[tawdry blade]

Sumeru is less painful to explore

[novel bear]

I hope that Fontaine is reasonably sized, and that every country isn't trying to be grander than the last,

[wild steeple]

You say that, but then there's Sneznayha, and when you compare it to its irl equivalent...

[primal cipher]

they’re just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger

[weary oriole]

Sumeru map is big for a reason

it has two sides

you can consider sumeru a size of two nations

not to mention that there's still a huge portion of the desert unreleased

i believe it will connect us to the nation of fire

[clever gull]

More like undeveloped

[lone sable]

Has anybody ever had this theory that the traveler is a living nail

And the truth of the world is that their existence is to stabilize the seven nations or something

that would be kinda cool I think

[tawdry blade]

Mhy: well you want smaller map? Here let us introduce you to underwater cave exploration! 30% land exploration and 70% cave exploration!

[tawdry blade]

Fontaine has 2 side too

[weary oriole]

Right

But why?

[lone sable]

Fontaine better have underwater mechanics but I highly doubt it

There’s 0 chance they’ll ever update any exploration systems like gliding or swimming

[weary oriole]

0 chance?

they control every content of the game

if they feel like it, we can have kiana in genshin

[arctic cedar]

they shouldnt have placed the cats there...

[lusty crest]

That's vile

[livid vault]

Why do you want that?

If you dont like to explore much, just don’t?

[lean karma]

after this championship event im fully convinced that Kaveh enjoys Alhaitham being his sugar daddy

like if he was really that desperate to move, to the point where he moves stuff 2 DAYS INTO THE EVENT, then why didnt he take the W

thats just more fuel to the kavhaitham fire to me honestly

[wild steeple]

And Alhaitham knew that Kaveh would save the dinner leftovers for him if he didn't come

[lean karma]

TRUE

LIKE HE KNEW HE WASNT LEAVING

[pulsar zealot]

Bongohead, pls meet Mona in 3.8 GAA

Canadaether too

[ornate sundial]

Nah Kaveh is just too principled. He'd rather donate Sachin's fortune than to accept it but not honor Sachin's wishes.

[weary oriole]

man this was genuinely sad…

It revolves around Kaveh. The event focuses on an academic competition between the different schools of Sumeru. Kaveh representing his own darshan and hoping to win for both the reward (to help him move out, pay some debts) and win for his father who couldn’t win it 20 years ago.

through some side quests in he event we learn about an unnamed contestant/researcher who helped a nearby village some 20 years ago. He wound up eventually dying in a quicksand incident trying to save some folks, but it was especially noted how immensely depressed and how much of a ‘husk’ the man became ended up becoming before then.
We discover that this same man was Kaveh’s father, who had taken up a deep research involving human nature but came about with some very nihilistic results and approaches. His father likely make with the one who organized that same original event (Sacchin), which Kaveh was inspired by as a kid, and decided to take on his research despite never winning. But the research told a great strain and toll on him to the point he fell into a deep anxiety and depression. He wasn’t much the man Kaveh knew anymore as a result. It’s sth that Kaveh blames himself for by talking about how inspired he was by the competition despite winning many years later himself for his father. He refused to take on the organizer’s research, and instead decides to use the reward (which was said person’s inherited assets) to donate for relief and charity causes. But it ends of with a sad note of Kaveh feeling the regret he does even though he was a kid that couldn’t know any better or have control of his deceased father’s actions.

it’s really something when you see how sacrificing and idealistic Kaveh is. When you think about it, his encounter with the desert foxes may have very well been an intentional parallel/reflection on this.

[ornate sundial]

It's nice that the event quest basically retold what were in his character stories cause I don't think a lot of players read those. It also gave more details that flesh Kaveh out more. Maybe they'll even revisit some points in his hangout

[weary oriole]

yo , wtf ! hu tao is in a story quest !!

[weary oriole]

Layla too has also been a good surprise

Other Layla completely flew by my head since I never read Layla’s character stories

until Hangout and this event

funnily enough her own demo actually teases Other Layla too

right at the very end

[ornate sundial]

I had to rewatch it and yeah, in hindsight, the change in demeanor is very apparent

I really enjoyed her hangout. And it was neat to see her interact with other characters in the event quest. And it looked like she even made some friends in her darshan after the competition ended

[weary oriole]

perfection

[lean karma]

but he could just... give half the money away, keep the house, and not continue the research just like tighnari said

[lean karma]

idk maybe i dont fully understand the lesson in the event

[weary oriole]

he could and imo he wouldn’t have been wrong for doing so, but again he’s too principled for that. He didn’t believe it was his call to take any for himself after seeing the nature of Sachin’s research and wanted to use it fully spread some help/hope to people in need, cuz he couldn’t stand the idea that human nature was behind salvaging/redeeming. That’s how much of idealist Kaveh is.

it’s really further characterization into him by the end of the day as one aspect

[limber yarrow]

I fucking love that the only contest where Scaramouche goes all in on is the exact contest where the only logical outcome of his victory, would be him still losing the championship and the championship ending up in a tie

The only reason this man ever puts his back into anything is spite

[tawdry blade]

People make ship out of everything lol. They're still roommate at the end of the day,

[tired ice]

how abt u make a ship out of u and deez nuts

[ornate sundial]

I thought about that too. I was like "oh now you care about the contest". But it's probably just for the cool cutscene

[cedar hedge]

I dont think he went all in at that last part tho he looks like he's just playing with them lol. If he really did want to win that round, he would've ignored kaveh and dodged cyno then fly towars the goal already since he was fast and capable of it but he didn't.
I think that he was helping Kaveh instead. He 'pushed' Kaveh faster towards the goal then he let Kaveh took the diadem when Cyno hit it.

[clever gull]

o for sure

though for such a vibrant event it had a strangely nihilistic core to it

I like that it talked about idealism a lot but not that it sorta just left Kaveh in a depressed state

I get that a big part of it is that being very idealistic and emphatic and believing in altruism generally leads you to be disappointed with a lot of the stuff you see in life but the philanthropy of Kaveh is that he continues despite that(?)

idk it left a sorta bad taste in my mouth seeing him in a pitiful state during and after the ceremony but it was realistic tbh

[weary oriole]

think about how I felt after I realized there was a happier ending at the final meetup where he doesn’t know about what we found.
and there’s no way to pick it after you pick the first option so YT is the only way.

[weary oriole]

it’ll be very interesting to see what Kaveh’s own hangout will go about with him and his nature, should he ever get one, with this in mind

[nocturne path]

can someone explain the diff between god and adeptus to me in razor language?

[clever gull]

god big, bigger than all, adeptus semi god, has power but not like god

[ornate sundial]

I just looked it up and damn, I didn't know the 2nd option had way more dialogue with Alhaitham

[ornate sundial]

Maybe his past regarding the Palace of Alcazarzaray (which is also in his character stories). They just mentioned it in passing in the event quest iirc

[eternal gust]

Yo I'm stuck in TB20

Oh DAMN.

Chat dead as hell

Fuck wrong chat

[tawdry blade]

Or "god can terraforming and destroy life,adepti can't"

[tawdry blade]

Poor Kaveh got scammed by dori

[tawdry blade]

Man,why can't traveler use their purify ability atleast? Traveler literally purity durin blood,which strong enough to make a god go insane(baizhu quest)

[weary oriole]

https://youtu.be/gCEC_C07oew

here are the endings

you can only unlock one though

@clever gull in case you missed it

[weary oriole]

that’s not abyssal related as far as we know tbf. Just born from Chi’s ill will, so two different things imo.
Plus some would argue what they did with dvalin’s tears were either a fluke, or just low enough level that they could handle then. Since we’ve never seen them try to purify forbidden knowledge without a catalyst of some sort.

plus if the traveler could trivialize things by that much it risks makes things even less meaningful anyway as a plot gimmick.

it should at least be directly brought up more often or at least one more time though. Even to at least establish that it’s not an end-all-be-all

[mellow burrow]

who has done baizhus story quest?

[clever gull]

Tyyyy

[weary oriole]

me

I liked it

[mellow burrow]

was it fun

[weary oriole]

I liked it.

have you?

[mellow burrow]

i havent started it yet. i did my comms yesterday and spend my keys on laylas hangout

[weary oriole]

should take you about an hour or less i one sitting. It’s quite decently paced.

[novel bear]

I really liked it, made me appreciate Baizhou more

Plus his snake has a really nice voice in Japanese

[tired ice]

how abt u purify deez nuts

[wanton cedar]

purify deez

[tawdry blade]

Dvalin tear was not easy to purify at all consider it take venti a long time to attempt it without using the tear (implying that venti can't do anything with the tear despite being an archon but uses other options,some might said that he was weak but dvalin was corrupted when he is in his prime). Mhy should dig in more about purify ability and not just abandons it,I just hope Fontaine has something to do with it,like purifying the toxic as part of the puzzle and no gadgets required.

Also having purify ability would help in future plot,they would be immune to more dangerous foes,Fatui poison or something similar,I don't think Traveler being overpower again slowly each region is a bad thing .Not sure if that ability get stronger the more we adventures to new region. Traveler still have to prepare for potential Pyro Archon fight in Natlan afterall

[weary oriole]

like already mentioned, I dont think there’s anything that says

dead god remains/grudges/karmic debt=abyss
and iirc there were even signs or abyss corruption within Durin that ended up tainting Dvalin anyway. What we see with Chi’s remains isn’t likened to the same thing. So irrelevant to whatever purification ability the traveler displayed much earlier.

[teal snow]

i like how he has the fatui harbinger introduction screen

[clever gull]

Peak event

[ornate sundial]

All of them did. It was amusing in a sorta cool way

[teal snow]

hat guy was the best part

considering i named my scara "xX_hatboi69_Xx"

[sullen glade]

I'm kinda sad that this event heavily focused on Kaveh

Not because I don't like him or anything

But because it's gonna take even longer for his hangout to come 😞

He's just like me fr

[weary oriole]

my friend, his hangout is in the next patch

don't worry

[weary oriole]

if anyone should be sad it’s that Sara, Dori, Candace and a few others still haven’t gotten one

[tired ice]

this scene was so awkward

cuz there was no epic background music

[ornate sundial]

Especially Sara cause she's the only Inazuman 4-star without a hangout

[pine thistle]

BACK ROOMS REFERENCE

[tawdry blade]

Kujou Sara is a busy person,she don't have time to hangout with us lol

[weary oriole]

that’s moot, we have Ningguang!

[grand sky]

LOL SO TRUE-

[tired ice]

do u have time for deez nuts tho?

[tawdry blade]

Ningquang is not that busy all the time,she only gives order and the worker and qixing will do it, sometime do some paperwork

I could be wrong

[mellow burrow]

IM NOT THE ONLY INEVEHO NOTICED

[weary oriole]

She’s busy the to T. Even her secretaries have to micromanage her small amounts of free time for her to breathe.

[weary oriole]

Hat guy harbinger

[teal snow]

And I never changed his name

[clever gull]

Scara gamer

[tawdry blade]

Sorush event are pretty cool

[novel bear]

It really is,

Loved the Paimon retelling

[tired ice]

know what else is cool? deez nuts

[wide scroll]

Meow

[tawdry blade]

When is 3.7 live?

[ornate sundial]

This Friday, I think

[novel bear]

Yeah, it's been rumoured for May 12th

[tired ice]

how abt u make deez nuts live

[tawdry blade]

All these deez nut joke for the past few month is enough to prove that you're immature and has attention lifespan of a gold fish

[novel bear]

He's been muted by Lore channels and is a whale

[lusty crest]

common ashen L, he's been doing it for far longer than a month and got lore muted for that reason. Funnily enough, he only does this in lore channels and is more chill in other channels

[outer panther]

You guys dont have him blocked?

[lusty crest]

nah i wanna keep my blocklist clean, plus i dont really need to block him if i could just ignore him

[cedar hedge]

wait i thought they already shut down the akasha terminal or did i miss something?

[ornate sundial]

They weren't wearing Akasha terminals for me. Have you finished Act 5 of the Sumeru archon quest? Maybe it's related to that

[cedar hedge]

oh yea you're right! i forgor i havent finished aq on this account yet

[clever gull]

Oh thats pretty neat

Though then did they change justification for Alhaitham hosting

[novel bear]

I love little details like that

[vivid heart]

]

guys HSR leaks

[livid vault]

These are like 2 weeks old

[novel bear]

Should HSR leaks actually be posted here?

I don't want the server to be deleted

[tawdry blade]

Im not a coward,I don't block people unless they are a threat.

[tawdry blade]

Not sure how they will handle powercreep in the future ,genshin handle it pretty well compare to other (only standard character is mid, except for tighnari), people already made seele tip how to get every turn, basically enemy can't do anything

[lusty crest]

those chara designs are fire ngl, too bad i'm not a fan of turn based games or i would have def played HSR

[ornate sundial]

Same

[weary oriole]

i stg it feels like i’m looking at rin okumura

[weary oriole]

the only real powercreep in genshin is indirectly when mobs and bosses come to ruin your usual team’s day

[mellow burrow]

who?

[novel bear]

Yeah, like those Serpent knights that ruin your day for having a shield

[weary oriole]

or unfreezeable enemies like bosses getting added to both sides of abyss

though Ayaka can still at least do alright

cuz burst unga bunga

[tawdry blade]

That type of enemy are actually to balance some character,if venti can suck every enemy,it would be too overpower,his aoe is big and energy is low,but despite that he's still good in first few abyss. I barely have any problems with those knight with zhongli,also telling ppl to learns how to dodge with those rifthowl. I think unfreezeable bosses are alright,they lived up to their title

[ornate sundial]

I'd rather fight bosses in both sides of Spiral Abyss than tanky elite mobs that spawn one by one or very far from each other

[sick topaz]

Who the fuck wouldnt smh

Abyss getting wild these days

Last time we malded over boss abyss

And we malded over Heralds

Now we malding over mere elites

Imagine in 4.0 two bosses in a half

[ornate sundial]

Could be doable if the total HP of the 2 bosses in 1 side is equal to the usual HP of 1 boss in current abyss

[lusty crest]

Ruin Serpent + Wenut on 1st half
Golden Wolflord + Thunder Manifestation on 2nd half

[novel bear]

How long do you think it'll take them to decide to have weekly bosses on the Abyss?

[weary oriole]

never

not at this rate unless they plan to revamp it entirely

[mystic coyote]

can you imagine fighting dvalin in the abyss

no way

[novel bear]

I was thinking more Childe, Azhdaha, Signora,

You know, the reasonably sized ones

[lusty crest]

realistically, a weekly boss in abyss is just a weekly boss fight but with a timer and probably bigger health pools

[novel bear]

I mean that's the same as the world bosses, timer and more health

[teal snow]

genshin players when win 5050

[tawdry blade]

Genshin 3.7 is huge,that Fontaine character look cute too,I remember leak said there will be first Fontaine character in 3.8 right? Or it was scrapped

I missed the stream,is there the quickswap gadget thing?

[ornate sundial]

It's pretty dry aside from the usual main event quest. Then for permanent story additions, it's just Yoimiya's 2nd story quest & Kaveh's hangout

[tawdry blade]

Well,not like im gonna play 3 hours a day,it not that dry in my personal experience

Any patch without new area is pretty dry obviously

Ok I watched the stream,there Fontaine crumb with traveler diving or swimming

[weary oriole]

It’s only really “dry” if you’re one of the few that are unusually caught up lol. I still have WQs and Hangouts to go through…

and exploration too

it’s more of a catch-up patch for me

[weary oriole]

comrades

what do we have here

all our theorycrafting about vasco paid off

[weary oriole]

UNDA DA SEA

[weary oriole]

a burnt phone

that’s what

[tawdry blade]

Who need pipe bomb when you can play genshin on a old popato phone

[weary oriole]

I stg if I have to quit genshin cuz 4.0 stuffs up my storage like hell…

underwater mechanic is finally here

but at what cost

[slate agate]

I dont think many appreciate Herbalist Gui enough. My man ran all the way from here to here.

[slate agate]

Also Qiqi best girl.
Qiqi : Second dont forget to.....
Jialing : Don't forget to?
Qiqi : I forgot....

[ornate sundial]

That was hilarious

[high dune]

Got to the part where|| Welt||said:|| "The sky here is an artificial boundary. I imagine it was created to shield residents from the pitch dark of outer space, and the negative emotions that it can generate..."||

So that is basically a spoiler again for the Genshin story

[ornate sundial]

Assuming they're in the same universe

[weary oriole]

not sure what the context of said scene is where ||Welt|| said that either

[high dune]

It was when ||they seen a planet in Xianzhou's fake sky||

I think they are since we can see some items there

[half jolt]

I can post spoiler pics here right? Coz idk how to hide it like you guys do

Can someone enlighten me who is golden hair?

[clever gull]

Dain(?)

[half jolt]

And he died?

[clever gull]

Thats the weird thing about it

Maybe they thought he died for some reason or something idk

Though they wouldnt say it like that hmm idk

[ornate sundial]

Yeah it's weird that Paimon said that. Cause in the world quest, they mentioned a swordsman that was implied to be Dain

[tawdry blade]

Meh I don't think so,it supposed to reply to the above spoiler comments but whatever

[tawdry blade]

Paimon is just dumb lol

[tawdry blade]

He didn't die,he just adventure with the sibling after defending the place,they thought he died because human can only lives for 100 years (atleast in genshin world,teyvat has it own law)

[lusty crest]

the abyss sibling probably

[weary oriole]

in terms of continuity it seems apparent this was meant to take place before khvarena WQ was completed, where Zurvan already tells you a similar account and Paimon+Traveler put two and two together far better. @half jolt @clever gull
Paimon’s just assuming cuz she doesn’t realize it’s Dain here yet I think.

[weary oriole]

they realized it was dain the moment they found out the golden haired dude was a particularly cursed Khaenri’an swordsman. Sorush just didn’t know all the details it seems, so they didn’t make the association right away.

[weary oriole]

….or at least

up until the final stage of the quest if we wanna rationalize it

[ornate sundial]

Yeah the final part said that we were already successful in removing the rift in the sky

[weary oriole]

is fishcl an import from honkai or is she just mentally ill kid and copying the real fishcl's identity ala cloud strife

will we get a char from star rail this time

but arent the chars from star rail actual chars from honkai ?

whats the setting of star rail compared to honkai tho 🤔

[weary oriole]

like i’ll give it the benefit of the doubt cuz chances are the scene is prolly different for someone who still hasn’t finished Khavarena. But still.

not that i know honkai's story either

man, i was talkin to myself and somebody cut me in the middle of it

[weary oriole]

tl;dr different universe and not directly related aside from Welt (but his story so far isn’t needed to get wtf is going on)

any honkai lookalikes are just different characters by the end of the day

what or who is welt ?

the most attractive man in all of MHY

Da Wei’s self-insert

ahh i see i see, da wei is a delusion wielder

always has been

wait, whats his actual name tho

isnt it liu wei ?

[lusty crest]

Indeed, Da Wei is just his nickname

[wide crow]

no way welt is liu wei’s self insert

[tawdry blade]

Well,I would self insert myself as an overpower man with power to delete anything too

[novel bear]

Then in Genshin it's that meme Hilichurl that drops lettuce

[ornate sundial]

And throws primos

[tawdry blade]

For who don't know yet,if you done both sorush world quest and the event,come back to the wenut cave there is a chest,it look like wenut escaped

[novel bear]

There's a Luxurious chest and a new time trial

It got me to 100% exploration for that one region

[lusty crest]

There is also a Mora Rock Pile just behind where the Luxurious chest is placed

[tired ice]

the wenut may have escaped but deez nuts will never give you up, never let u down, never run around and desert u

[burnt zodiac]

traveler dies

[polar forge]

dainy boy

[half jolt]

Is the wenut gone permanently? Coz it's impossible to get the dendroculus above if the wenut isn't there. if it's temporary then the chest couldn't be unobtainable if wenut comes back.

[tawdry blade]

Yes,but you can collect the pari soul thing and it will summon a four leaf sigil

[brave sigil]

Is Changseng an adeptus? Does Zhongli know Changseng?

[polar forge]

She not

[novel bear]

My friend had said that in the hole where the Wenut used to be, there is a cave entrance that was accessible before the event, but was closed with barriers until now,

So the Wenut may or may not return, but the chest at least should be forever accessible now

[half jolt]

omg we literally have the same dp I thought someone changed my name😆

Also, what about other players who will miss the event? Do they get the permanent wenut there? 🤔

[ornate sundial]

Maybe they'll add a world quest. Like the one for Joel's father

[novel bear]

I've been meaning to visit my friend's world, where he hasn't done the event. I'll report back

[tawdry blade]

The event take place when sorush got her "hat",in this timeline ,the dark stone's still there,after the quest, everything return to normal with some exceptions,the wenut eventually runaway after being free

Mhy don't block chest behind event anyway

The chest was there on interactive map but got remove later

[tired ice]

I don't block deez nuts behind anything either when it concerns you

[wild steeple]

I hate that they just recycled the whole dynamic they did in the 3.4 desert for 3.6

Sorush is literally just Liloupar all over again. "Ohh we got this quirky floating companion that makes sassy remarks and competes with paimon as your new floating companion. Also her followers all try to use her for their own benefits and the floating companion decides to make you her master/guardian/owner on a whim"

[icy echo]

Poopy

[weary oriole]

Sorush and Liloupaur are very different characters by the end of the day though.
Part of Liloupaur’s deal was more about coming to terms that her notions on people of the desert weren’t as spot on as they initially were. All while the narrative emphasized how much of a good person she wasn’t. And most of her ‘sass’ wasn’t really directed at Paimon either. Her schtick was actually more spread out as the cast needed to bear with it for obvious reasons.

Sorush genre is the exact opposite past surface level though. She is just that passionate about making her name known and becoming glorified for her deeds, even if a heroic sacrifice came down to it. She actually ‘competed’ with Paimon as a floating companion (esp in terms of utility).

Even when looking at 3.4 and 3.6 overworld mechanic they’re actually hardly alike. The only common ground Liloupaur and Sorush have is is glowing shine effects that do very different things.

[tawdry blade]

People always says mhy recycle this or that,like event,in term of gameplay,some are but the plot are entirely new

[clever gull]

Real

[novel bear]

Sometimes I wish there were actual event reruns

Or at least for the flagship events, they're treated like Teyvat chapter interludes

Like that Irodori festival is really lore heavy

That could have been an archon quest

I mean part of me understands that Genshin is a continually evolving game,

[tawdry blade]

The way I see it is,if the new player really invested in the lore they could watch lore content they missed on youtube

[clever gull]

Doesn’t hit the same at all

[novel bear]

Not at all

[wild steeple]

Genshin is primarily a visual novel with some combat aspects on top, their idea of event gameplay is literally mobile tier. I wouldn't be surprised if one day they reveal that the following patch's event is a gardenscape tier "pull the needles" gameplay or that scammy hero wars ad with the additive power level scaling

[tawdry blade]

Well true, experience it yourself is still better

[clever gull]

fr billion dollar company btw

[short drum]

idk where to ask this but.. i have been wondering what stopping nahida to just delete dottore or heck anything from the world now that she have the world's database

[lusty crest]

Irminsul edits don't delete people from existence, it deletes people's memories about that said person. If Nahida were to do it, it would just erase Dottore out of people's memories but he would still exist, so there's no advantage on doing that. In fact, it would probably be detrimental because now, Nahida wouldn't be able to track him using Irminsul

Keep in mind that the Fatui are also aware of the Descenders and succeeded into identifying them, so Dottore being erased from Irminsul (the Descenders can't be tracked using Irminsul too) wouldn't really hurt the Fatui

[short drum]

still wouldn't it still be useful? to take out dottore's memory maybe he will become another person like the case with wanderer

[lusty crest]

It could make sense, but narratively, it would be a bad plot convenience. Imagine if Traveler relied on Irminsul to deal with every threat they have, it wouldn't make the story appealing at all

[clever gull]

raaaaa erase pulcinella

[tawdry blade]

What about delete his knowledge? He will then become the most dumbest fatui with 0 IQ

Or tutorial how to create clone,so Dottore won't be a threat,Nahida care for people no way she would let him slide and continue do experiment on human

With nahida admit she watchs traveler adventure I think it possible that she will do something with Irminsul when traveler is in danger situation

[lusty crest]

I very much doubt smth like that is possible. So far, we've only seen that Irminsul edit work on the whole person targeted, not just a part of them. Basically, you either erase them from everyone's memories or you don't do anything at all. Also, Irminsul holds records : the records are physical actions done by Teyvatians so I doubt it would work on the internal level, like erasing someone's memory. You can also factor that it's possible that Dottore shares memories and spent some time with other people (he wasn't an outcast all his life). So tampering with Irminsul could possibly also damage those other person and I doubt Nahida would take that risk given her innocent nature

[tawdry blade]

She would if it like risk 10 people or save 1 million people🔥

[lusty crest]

notice how she didn't risk Setaria's life during the Samsara arc even tho it would have been easier than the plan they came up with

Nahida's a gentle soul, especially towards her people, so she wouldn't risk anyone's life over another

[polar forge]

Can we talk to me about spoilers

[weary oriole]

what kind?

[weary oriole]

let's talk about what vasco told us about sea monsters

[weary oriole]

recap

I'm guessing

that we will meet the hydro sovereign and it will be in Fontaine

so the narrative, Vasco had an illegal dive with his friends, not knowing where the limitations are for divers, they went to a restricted area and encountered a sea monster located beneath (hydro sovereign/other new mobs unknown yet)

[lusty crest]

sea monsters aren't something super rare tho, we already know about Haishan and Osial (he's a god but you can also consider him a sea monster), not to mention the sea monster that morax fought and made him dislike squids

[weary oriole]

That makes a lot of sense

but where esle, if not Fontaine?

[lusty crest]

in order to have sea monsters, we would need a sea lol. So far we don't even know if Fontaine has a coast cause Natlan is west

[weary oriole]

land of water... pretty sure there's going to be many coasts

[lusty crest]

so far, every nation has a coast so yeah Fontaine might have one

[weary oriole]

isn't Fontaine located in the middle?

Natlan is east?

of what nation

[lusty crest]

actually i think it's west not east

west of sumeru and prob fontaine too

[weary oriole]

not promoting any channel, i just wanna give an idea of how it's gonna look like

reference: tof

https://youtu.be/iHaQqKe-mWQ

[lusty crest]

while i think this ref looks pretty nice, that will just fry the players' phones and pcs. Imo, they'll prob treat underwater exploration as a domain, so instead of having access to it at any moment, you'll need to load the underwater map first to explore it. A bit like when you teleport to Enka or the Chasm Underground

[weary oriole]

it will burn some potato phones no doubt

and pc

but considering that there's underwater stamina, because why not... we will have to reach the surface occasionally to get oxygen

if separating an underwater map with a surface of empty air for oxygen it's going to be awkward and hassle for players

||i heard Focalors doesn't run out of stamina underwater, she's going to be useful in|| exploration

how about kokomi tho... I'm curious on how they will fix her kit

[lusty crest]

why would she need fixing

if you're referring to her burst letting her walk on the water's surface, there should be no problem

[weary oriole]

i just realized

there are characters who have two burst animations and mechanics like Childe

could it be...

[lusty crest]

he's the only one iirc

[weary oriole]

i think wanderer has two as well

[lusty crest]

nah wanderer only has one

he stomps on an anemo ball and it tranforms into some black hole

[weary oriole]

look again

[lusty crest]

you have a vid ? cause i don't see any difference

[weary oriole]

https://youtu.be/9P8KsFY1YZA

this one

[lusty crest]

oh the hat

i mean, should we really count it. It's a minor difference

idk if you could count that as a different animation

cause the hat is just a normal asset

so making it go invisible shouldn't be so hard for devs

[short drum]

that'a fair ,thanks man

[ornate sundial]

Ooh has this dialogue been available since launch?

[mystic coyote]

since 3.0

bc that guy is in port ormos

[ornate sundial]

So they teased it since Sumeru launched. Nice!

[tawdry blade]

The underwater combat there is really... Shit

[mellow burrow]

im doing yoimiyas story quest and does anyone know the eng va for ahangar? he kinda sounds like guy from naruto

[lusty crest]

Well tbf there's no combat gameplay on th vid Aesir sent so I can't tell, but the exploration looks okayish. At least the scenery is worth mentioning

[grand coral]

if it is anything like that it will be great

[grand coral]

who cares it's 2023

just turn on low graphics

[minor saddle]

im getting todd haberkorn vibes from his raspy voice, similar to the drifter from d2

[lusty crest]

Well fair but I still doubt they would just let the players access underwater areas without any loading

[grand coral]

I think you're overrating the hardware you need for underwater exploration

honestly you usually need less

because you don't have to render in the stuff above the water really

I doubt it's more laggy than regular exploration

also low graphics do miracles

[lusty crest]

Hmm idk ig you could be right

[weary oriole]

anoyone done kaveh's hang out yet ?

can you pls tell me what is it about ?

[weary oriole]

yes

[weary oriole]

Dass what I'm saying bro 🗿🤝

[rare oracle]

hi

[leaden burrow]

||ARAMIYA.||

[potent quarry]

Ayaka is gonna be so mad

[sharp steppe]

Yoimiya 1 Ayaka Soggy socks/Dead Parents/Responsibility

[tawdry blade]

The quest was amazing for none archon quest

[lusty crest]

hmm so Kaveh is at least 25 years old

now i get where Cyno got his sense of humor

[lusty crest]

Ending 1 and 2 are about Kaveh helping an Eremite building a library in Aaru Village
Ending 3 and 4 are about Kaveh thinking back on his life and his mother
Ending 5 is about Kaveh trying to get Mora from another job aside from architect but with a twist

[weary oriole]

ughh, same ol boring stuff 😩

but tyvm for the info

[lusty crest]

it's not that boring imo, you can see his character develepment through the hangout. And tbh hangouts aren't meant to have crazy action cause the whole purpose of a hangout is to...well...hang out with that said character

a Story Quest would have more action on the other hand

[weary oriole]

hmm, yea but its a fantasy world and all we have is a guy building a library , we are looking for something more daring

[lusty crest]

well Kaveh's character isn't about grand things tbh so it wouldn't make sense to have him do something crazy

[tawdry blade]

Me when a very weak playable in lore hangout isn't about them fighting the harbinger: 👹

[weary oriole]

yep, thatd be more exciting, imagine amber getting ganged up by the harbingers

[lusty crest]

if you more action, you should probably do Archon Quests and Story Quests

[ornate sundial]

Yeah it's one of the best imo. Yoimiya truly is best girl

[weary oriole]

yoi sq2 made me tear up well done hoyoverse 👏

[half jolt]

Red Nara. What a refreshing story. 🥹

[weary oriole]

is there an ending to the game yet

i aint download it

i heard theres no ending or something

[lusty crest]

Genshin keeps being updated every version (which last 42 day each). We currently finished the story related to 4 nations out of the 8 (or maybe 9) of the Teyvat Chapter and the 5th nation will be out soon in a few months (there may be an even greater chapter later on but who knows), so no there's no ending to the game yet

[wild steeple]

how long do you expect hyv to keep genshin service live once the story/major updates are fully released? That question kind of bugs me because this is the model that companies take on live services nowadays more than ever. So by the time Genshin is finished, you think we'd get what? 3? 5 years before they pull the plug? and then all you achieved was for nothing, it was just for that moment that you enjoyed it and can't go back to it

[weary oriole]

they gonna keep it alive as long as it makes money mate

example, if it doesnt make any money next year, then the timer will start for its imminent shut down

[wild steeple]

which is strongly related to the game having major updates, is what keeps players retainied

so if there are no more major updates, ofc it's going to start generating less money

[weary oriole]

updates are easy to make, but if they keep making the same stuff, people will get bored
imo the biggest struggle is keeping players interested

[tawdry blade]

That exactly what Minecraft do,some people don't understand that release everything new at once is a bad game design for casual game

Genshin also said they will not add more element reaction but will add new gameplay,either parry or new cool permanent content

For us original player,it bad but for new player,they will have more fun then us

Also is it just me or new temporary map in 3.8 name "||Penumbra||" is basically what happens during solar eclipse?

So the map is a mirage ?, because it is in the desert

[ornate sundial]

Looks like it

[weary oriole]

yes, tcg for example

it has potential to start tournaments like other eSports games

keeping players in the game

[weary oriole]

mirage, domain or maybe a new concept from Fontaine

[weary oriole]

isn’t honkai 3rd still going

no idea

looks pretty dead on steam tho

[wild steeple]

I'm already tired of tcg after unlocking like 3 characters in this version and some of the new challengers in the world, I don't even wanna think about the event

[fiery cipher]

It's a temporary event right? I don't have to play it to move ahead in story right

[lusty crest]

Hi3 was one of the most successful gacha mobile games tho. Obv after the big success of Genshin, it would lose most of its fanbase, because it's been out for 7 years, the way hoyo managed its resources and content delivery on the game wasn't so bad from what i've seen. They might do the same for Genshin when we reach Khaenri'ah

[lusty crest]

yeah, the tcg event is only a limited event, tho if you play it and get the rewards, you could get mora, primos and such as well as a limited bow that will most likely never appear again

[fiery cipher]

Players are gonna stop playing after reaching the end so the fall is evitable

[fiery cipher]

I hate that game enough to give up on rewards

[lusty crest]

well obv you can't keep a game alive for eternity

[fiery cipher]

Tbh i just came back from like a year of inactivity

So idc about the rewards

[lusty crest]

play it at your own pace and enjoy the content

[fiery cipher]

True true that's why i think they're trying to milk as much money as possible

Rn

[fiery cipher]

Yeah that's what I'm doing rn

[lusty crest]

tbh hoyo didn't really milk genshin that much

it's starting but not yet

[fiery cipher]

Oh?

[lusty crest]

if they were to milk the game, they would do way more crazy shit outside of the game to promote it

there is marketing out there but it's not that prominent yet

but for example next year, we'll prob get more news about the anime

[fiery cipher]

Yeah it's not milking

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1265527/mihoyo-annual-app-revenue/

[lusty crest]

prob more intersting collabs and such

[fiery cipher]

This is just mobile

[lusty crest]

you misunderstand the definition of the term "milking"

[fiery cipher]

There revenue in mobile is falling if YTD is not even 500 rn i don't see them making a billion this year

[lusty crest]

hmm

could be the case

they're still rich anyways

[fiery cipher]

My bad genshin isn't at milking stage it's still at the growth stage

[lusty crest]

so they can afford losing some millions here and there

[lusty crest]

indeed

[fiery cipher]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1343423/mihoyo-key-financial-figures/#:~:text=In 2021%2C the annual revenue,anime-style game Genshin Impact.

[lusty crest]

when you see how people think genshin is already falling off on social media, it's hilarious tho

[fiery cipher]

Still a healthy growth tbh

But this is more of a one off case they can't have 3x growth yoy

[lusty crest]

well idk if those statistics are accurate but the game is doing better each day anyways

[fiery cipher]

Statista is a pretty reliable source tbh

[lusty crest]

i think it would take at least 10 years for genshin to be dead

it won't die so easily

honkai is at its 7th year now

and is starting to die

but genshin is just way bigger

imo star rail has more chance to die sooner than genshin

[fiery cipher]

Yeah i think somewhere someone told me that the company itself sees genshin as a 10 yr program however idk how reliable that source is

[lusty crest]

hmm i would doubt random claims that you see on the internet tbh

[fiery cipher]

Yeah I'm not really putting my money on the information

[lusty crest]

tbh hoyo never stated the sea of flowers to be the last chapter

it's the last part of the teyvat chapter

we could go on exploring celestia or the abyss next for all we know

[fiery cipher]

It would feel like they're just stretching the story

[lusty crest]

not necessarily

and tbh i'm pretty sure people would still play it

[tawdry blade]

One thing people forgot is weeb fandom is huge,the game would be popular again once new thing out, genshin suddenly appeared alot in social media after inazuma arc because raiden pull a sword out of her bob.

That is how I find the game anyway

[lusty crest]

lmao

it's funny but true

[tawdry blade]

Another is genshin anime,not sure if it will have huge impact on social media or not but considering FGO ig it would work

[lusty crest]

i doubt the anime would be the reason tbh

the anime will most likely be covering something other than the main plotline cause that would be boring as hell

imagine waiting years only to watch back what you already did in game

imo it would cover up the past of each nation

prob before the cataclysm

it would give the game way more world building and also introduce new characters

[tawdry blade]

Thought leak said there already full mond arc

[lusty crest]

i didn't follow any anime leak

cause 99% are bait

[tawdry blade]

But more dramatic though

[wild steeple]

I mean we already have genshin manga so if the plot goes similarly to it it should be fine

[lusty crest]

yeah the manga plotline was a good introduction

[weary oriole]

cant wait for genshin to add sex

[tawdry blade]

Mod genshin 🔥

[lusty crest]

https://tenor.com/view/really-sunglasses-gif-20513808

[tawdry blade]

No action but still cool

[lusty crest]

if they wanna retell the main plotline story, imo the best course of action is to implement all the previous main event plots in it

that would make it way more interesting

[tawdry blade]

I think OVA episode would be them going to the first GGA map,if it exist

[fiery cipher]

I'd watch the anime even if it's the same storyline as the game

[tawdry blade]

I don't doubt them retelling old main event,as scaramouche first encounter is technically canon because the dialogue change if you already met him. Retelling the whole archon quest would take less than 6 episode unlike demon slayer with some backstory out of nowhere before genya almost die

[fiery cipher]

But it also depends on the animation

[wild steeple]

They'd need to severely cut down the amount of dialogue if they wanted to cram down the archon quest in a couple episodes

[lusty crest]

1.1/1.2/1.6/2.2/2.3/2.6/2.7/2.8 main events should be included in the anime imo

[wild steeple]

Genshin dialogue is obnoxiously long

[lusty crest]

agreed

[fiery cipher]

Plus no skip scene

[wild steeple]

I'd argue the fungi pokemon event is canon too then since it's referenced several times later in the game if you participated, in Nahida story quest and in Layla Hangout

[fiery cipher]

Well tbh if they give skip option their quest time would drop down severely

[lusty crest]

sure but like some events have way more lore impact than others

[tawdry blade]

Because all event are canon lol

[lusty crest]

like who cares about some fungi

[tawdry blade]

Only main event that give more information than other simple event

[wild steeple]

Every Albedo event

[lusty crest]

meanwhile "the sky is fake" is prob one of the biggest lore drop

[wild steeple]

[fiery cipher]

Events would be filler episodes lol

[lusty crest]

then we have the 1.5 and 2.0 events with the most mid story ever

they didn't even bother getting it cutscenes

[wild steeple]

Dw 3.7 is contesting for the middest one now

[lusty crest]

lol

[fiery cipher]

I don't even remember the story anymore

Or why are we where we are rn

[tawdry blade]

It will be a bit hard to include event in the anime, because the timeline for it is complicated,we don't know what happens after another,like what traveler do after we done with the festival in sumeru? Go around or do some event

I didn't meant to reply

[fiery cipher]

I just know we're meeting archons to find our sibling and every archon needs some help

[lusty crest]

1.5/2.0/3.0/3.2/3.7 are prob the most mid events in term of story tbh

[lusty crest]

pretty much

[wild steeple]

Also some non-main quest lines are so extensive yet almost archon quest tier important that may as well be considered a whole arc: tsurumi Island, rana and the aranara, golden slumber, etc

[tawdry blade]

What is 3.2 main event again

[lusty crest]

pokemon fungi event

1.5 is energy aplificator (that shit should be a 420 primos event lol not a main one)
2.0 i dont even remember
3.0 is going around sumeru with collei and doing aranara carvings
3.2 is using fungi as pokemons
3.7 is a tcg tournament

[wild steeple]

On another note, I'm curious how censored/PG-E is the anime going to be. Are they gonna show death, blood?

[lusty crest]

yeah world quest series should be included

[tawdry blade]

It only censored in China so probably not

[tawdry blade]

Problem is, traveler did world quest after the whole archon quest or something

[lusty crest]

i highly doubt it, the main appeal in the game is the fact that it looks like a child's tale, but when you dive deep into lore you discover some super messed up shit

[tawdry blade]

if you done aranana quest,and finally do sumeru arc quest,the dialogue is different

[wild steeple]

But genshin doesn't really have blood or graphic deaths outside China either, monsters just evaporate, humanoids either disappear in a poof of smoke or sand, it's not like demon slayer where people get decapitated and dismembered

[lusty crest]

yeah but you're supposed to do the aranara quest before finishing the sumeru quest to have a better gameplay experience imo so i think they would follow that pattern

[tawdry blade]

I don't think they will show hilichurl getting decapitated anyway,only some blood from injury

[fiery cipher]

They'll show the health bar disappearing

[tawdry blade]

That would be funny if the anime was slice of slide anime

[wild steeple]

Pls not another SAO

[lusty crest]

they'll only show us traveler fighting ley lines lol so that there will be no blood

[wild steeple]

I can't think of any Shonen anime that doesn't have such levels of violence, so idk where would genshin stand there

[lusty crest]

they could do a DBS and change blood to sweat and spit lol

there's not any blood afaik in there

[wild steeple]

That would be giga disappointing

[lusty crest]

i mean, do you really expect the anime to show blood

[wild steeple]

DBS at least excuses itself cause everyone fights with their fists or power beams

But genshin is for the most part steel and magic

[tawdry blade]

I thought they fought with ball

[lusty crest]

i agree, it would make sense for them to show blood

but realistically speaking, it's pretty obv that they won't

they'll stay true to the game

[wild steeple]

I mean, was the manga very graphic? I never read it

[lusty crest]

i don't think so

there may have been like 1 or 2 instances of blood

then again there isn't a lot of fighting in the manga

it's just chapter 0 with venessa vs hilichurls and diluc vs dottore

[tawdry blade]

Most enemy in genshin is elemental life form anyway,some like treasure hoarder and eremite escape somehow

[lusty crest]

yeah

[wild steeple]

We do canonically kill a lot of eremites despite them still dying with the same sand animation

[tawdry blade]

Maybe they will show traveler killing fatui not in horrific way ofc

[tawdry blade]

We do kill them during Jeht quest, massacre the entire tribe lol

[wild steeple]

We went full Itachi on their asses

[lusty crest]

they deserved it tbh

the iwakura clan too

they were always the ones attacking first

[tawdry blade]

Still feel bad for them,they just wanna be famous with their sword art

[wild steeple]

I hate that quest too

[tawdry blade]

Unlucky for them that they possess no vision

[lusty crest]

they could have gotten famous without attacking at sight lol

they canonically were the ones to attack the traveler first, so it was fair to kill them

[wild steeple]

Also kinda curious that in those rare instances where you do kill, sometimes the traveler tries shielding paimon from seeing it, but there are many instances where he doesn't still, like with falcon or the rest of the clan

[lusty crest]

it could be that they were more busy murdering them more than protecting paimon's sanity

but that statement is still interesting tho

when albedo appeared behind susbedo and stabbed him, paimon went to duck behind the traveler and you can see them shielding her

[tawdry blade]

Traveler told paimon to go away in that rana's fatui quest because traveler don't want paimon to see that side of traveler (maybe),other situation are either her inside the teapot or traveler has good reason to kill

[tawdry blade]

She probably scared of getting attack

She saw xiao injury, but no one shield her from seeing it

[wild steeple]

Lol I forgot that his "injuries" are just void-looking emptiness to censor blood

Better than white "blood" at least

[lusty crest]

fr

green void ahh looking scratches

[ornate sundial]

I only remember the duel between Ei & Kamaji in Ei's 1st story quest where they showed blood. Was there another?

[wild steeple]

Pretty sure they do show blood in cutscenes, like when they showed the yakshas faces splattering with blood to symbolize their deaths. But like, the story has way too much combat and violence for them to just censor it the way they do it ingame