・genshin-spoilers

[weary oriole]

GENSHIN 2?

[clever gull]

Wait nvm that would be sick yes pls

[errant lance]

are we going to even travel to other continents?

did the archon war happen on different continents?

[clever gull]

Alternative Zhongli‼️‼️

[weary oriole]

32057215 terrabyte update 💀

[clever gull]

Alternative Nahida‼️‼️

[errant lance]

i refuse to believe that that many gods lived and fought only on 1 continent

and didnt disturb other gods

considering that venti, zhongli and ei by themselves to topple the entire continent

[clever gull]

Well I think its called a continent just cuz its a massive piece of land in a seemingly endless ocean

[weary oriole]

the "other gods" created the idea of the archons to distract the people probably

[clever gull]

Doesnt mean theres other continents for sure

[errant lance]

hm

imagine its just like

[blazing hollow]

well its hinted that the story progresses further than teyvat

[errant lance]

a combination of euroasia and africa

boom

thats your only continent

[clever gull]

We dont know anything about the stuff outside of Teyvat and we probably wont know for a reallyr eally really long time

[errant lance]

it would make more sense to have 1 continent = 1 archon

because if its just strightly the 7 on 1 continent

[clever gull]

Its called rhe dark sea for filler I think cuz they dont wanna expand lore on it too much

[errant lance]

and they destroyed the 2 nations without god

[clever gull]

Pangea

[errant lance]

we can assume the other continents have rules

[weary oriole]

when are we gonna go to mare jivari 😭

[errant lance]

rulers

[clever gull]

Teyvat is pangea real?

[errant lance]

WAIT IM GOING TOO DEEP

[clever gull]

Its right past desert

[weary oriole]

real 😎

[blazing hollow]

lmao similar to naruto where its 1 nation 1 kage

[clever gull]

thank you epic orangutan😎😎

[errant lance]

my hangover is both making me want to stop thinking about it but my morbid greed for lore wont stop me

[weary oriole]

morbius refference?

[errant lance]

no

anyway

i can only assume there are multiple celestias

like 1 continent = 1 celestia?

each continent having a different type of ruling?

with their gods i mean

teyvan has what is basically a dictatorship

maybe another continent has a case of where the rules changes every 4 years

MAN

IM WAIT TOO DEEP INTO THIS

[weary oriole]

are you sure it's a hangover and you're not still drunk?

[clever gull]

Bro is having fun

[errant lance]

yup

oh wait, im reading the wiki

ž

"In the ancient past, parts of the land now known as the Dark Sea were inhabited by the Seelie, who built palaces there. While some Seelie also dwell in Teyvat, their palaces are said to stand in the "wasteland" beyond the dominion of The Seven, which is "inhabited only by the grotesque ghostly remains of fallen gods"

[blazing hollow]

i mean we have no clue about what is outside of teyvat besides the dark sea

[clever gull]

WHAT

SOURCE??

[weary oriole]

to be fair, I've come up with wackier theories while completely sober

[errant lance]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Sea

[clever gull]

Yeah but

[blazing hollow]

oh yeah the seelies

[clever gull]

Where the wiki get it from

[errant lance]

the seelies

aparently

[blazing hollow]

lore within game

[clever gull]

Yes but where😭

[errant lance]

what vano said

anyway

wait give me a second

[clever gull]

Where ingame😭😭😭

[blazing hollow]

read the books u collect

there is a lot of lore

even about the fake sky

[weary oriole]

this line made me cry
gasping for air gasping for air (cough)

[errant lance]

so if other landmasses/ continents are wastelands inhabited by fallen gods and the 7 dont have dominion over it, whats stopping celestia from destorying said fallen gods? enkanomiya is aparently a part of this "dark sea" even tho its quite literally bellow watatsumi island

[clever gull]

What line

Probably cuz they have no reason to

[errant lance]

WAIT

WAIT WAITWAITWAWITWAIT

[blazing hollow]

no enkanomiya was not in the dark sea

[errant lance]

"Enkanomiya's history extends to long before the dominion of The Seven, supposedly to a time when The Seven did not exist and "all of humanity was unified under a single culture".[4] After Orobashi discovered this book and the secrets detailed within, he was sentenced to death by Celestia, presumably because Celestia does not want anyone to know that Celestia and the gods do not originate from Teyvat."

NAAAAAAAAAAAAH

WHAT

GIVE ME A SECOND

[clever gull]

U didnt know😭😭😭

[blazing hollow]

its independent and residing in the abyss

[errant lance]

THE FUCKING GODS ARENT ACTUALLY FROM TEYVAT?

[clever gull]

Bruhhh

[errant lance]

W H E R E A R E T H E S E F U C K E R S F R O M ?

[clever gull]

This was told to us like 3 times

[weary oriole]

technically humans aren't even from teyvat

[errant lance]

i got brain damage, i need shit explained to me like im 10

[velvet pumice]

theyre from one of phanes’ shades

[clever gull]

Ok fair pol

[blazing hollow]

arent the original inhabitants of teyvat the vishaps or ma i tripping?

[clever gull]

Yeah they are

[errant lance]

i knew about the vishaps

[clever gull]

Then celestia pulled up

[errant lance]

but like

i thought celestia was from teyvat as well

[clever gull]

The Primordial One was the orignal god from theyvat

[blazing hollow]

okay explain what u dont know

[weary oriole]

then the primordial one showed up and made these goofy ahh two legged people

[blazing hollow]

ill try to answer

[clever gull]

Primordial One was the first descender

[errant lance]

what the fuck is the primordial one

[velvet pumice]

primodial one a real one fr

[clever gull]

Old thing

[blazing hollow]

phanes

[velvet pumice]

phanes

[errant lance]

who

[velvet pumice]

damn phanes got the itto treatment

[blazing hollow]

and then celestia is the second one

[weary oriole]

the first ever god/alien i think

[blazing hollow]

the first descender

[errant lance]

if the primordial one was a descender, how was he the first god

wait no

im stupid

but like

[velvet pumice]

no celestia is first

[errant lance]

the fuck happened to him

[velvet pumice]

but technically phanes is first before celestia is first

[clever gull]

Yes

[weary oriole]

the primordial one descended but isn't classified as a descender by the fatui

[velvet pumice]

celestia showed up and started a war

[blazing hollow]

i think phanes lost to celestia

[velvet pumice]

celestia wins and boom teyvat sucks now

[blazing hollow]

thus celestia ruling teyvat

[clever gull]

Our sister is somehow from Teyvat ans all this || timeline fuckery || makes me think that || she did something ||

[blazing hollow]

basically

[weary oriole]

bring back unified civilization fr

[errant lance]

i have 72 tabs open on genshin lore

[clever gull]

Bro is deep in the lore

Nice

[errant lance]

god, why do i have random spurts of lore hunger every few months

[clever gull]

I miss doing that

[blazing hollow]

love to see it

[clever gull]

Cuz its mad fun haha

[velvet pumice]

learning the hard way just search up a genshin timeline its condensed and how i learned

[errant lance]

i was like this in fucking april

EVERY

FEW MONTHS

EVERY GOD DAMN TIME

LIKE IM SUPPOSED TO ALREADY KNOW ALL OF THIS

[weary oriole]

my brain explodes when I try to understand genshin lore

[errant lance]

youd assume as a day 1 player id understand all of this

i aint know SHIT

[weary oriole]

I've been playing since 2.5 so I know even less

[blazing hollow]

i mean its alright if someone doesn’t understand because not everyone is looking for every book or note in game

its hard to find everything and then bring it into order

[errant lance]

idont think iv read a single book

iv been playing this shit since it came out man, i cant be bothered to read every single detail

[blazing hollow]

the most „fun fact“ stuff is written in the books

[blazing hollow]

i understand that tbh😭

[elder vapor]

i mean hey, at least you weren't the one reading about Egyptian gods having weird escapades of trying to one-up each other by "spicing up" their favorite food...

[errant lance]

someone give me an explination on istaroth lore

[weary oriole]

honestly the only reason I know the archons are from Ars Goetia is because I had to read it for school

[errant lance]

because good god the wiki is too long for my attention span

[blazing hollow]

istaroth is one of phanes‘ shades and the god of time

she has close ties with venti

[errant lance]

what the fuck is a shade

[blazing hollow]

well😭

phanes‘ shades are emanations of phanes?? i would say

if thats the right word

[elder vapor]

rough explanation
Istaroth - demon name
Kairos - Greek name from Enkanomiya lore
God of Time
God of thousand winds of time
God of Moments
In Greek lore, Kairos is god of the "perfect moment", which is why they're associated with thieves and archers
Venti being a literal wisp of the thousand winds and the whole "Time and Wind" thing in Mond make both of them the sussiest characters in all of Genshin, outsussing even Paimon

what Kairos do?
idk
time shenanigans
she did help Makoto plant Sacred Sakura into the past somehow
and likely responsible for the Traveler and Paimon meeting and travelling in the first place

ah yeah
she's also one of the 4 shades of the Primordial One

[blazing hollow]

3 are unknown so we only know istaroth as the god of time and wind

[elder vapor]

the other 3 are theorized to be Moon Sisters, but it's likely also to be different people

[errant lance]

so a tld is that istaroth is basically a piece of the creator

but like

so i know why venti is sussy

but why would istaroth be sussy

[weary oriole]

did they just use the fucking lego starwars breaking sound in the new quest?

[polar forge]

because

she had

1001 kids

[blazing hollow]

ohh the moon sisters that is very interesting what people theorise

[elder vapor]

Moon Sisters are
very weird

[blazing hollow]

because she and venti are closely tied in some sense

and mondstadt sus in general

[elder vapor]

like, after Enka lore came, some were like "was that story just fiction?"
then fkn Aranara are like "nah, they valid"

[errant lance]

the fuck are moon sisters

[blazing hollow]

omg enkanomiya had my brain on overload

[errant lance]

MAN

IM TRYNNA FIGURE SHIT OUT OK

[elder vapor]

Kairos is sus because she's could be behind ANYTHING that's going on in the game
like that voice at the end of 3.3 Interlude AQ
could be her, since she's talking about fate and stuff

[blazing hollow]

corpses in form of the moon

[errant lance]

im hardstuck at 1.3 lore ok

[elder vapor]

aight

Moon Sisters lore then

so basically

3 sisters

Aria, Sonnet and Canon

they took shifts driving the Moon chariot
if they were to fail to switch shifts, a calamity would occur
which happened
and presumably that's when the Second Who Came started a new war

[distant sentinel]

Second who came was many

Also that happened less than 6000 years ago

[elder vapor]

Moon Sisters were basically like... deities
and Seelies were their underlings
except Moon sisters presumably died
and said that "only 1 sister's pale corpse can be seen in the sky", aka the Moon we see
...however we know that Abyss has it's own Moon
and we also know of a "Lady of the Golden Hall" also located on the Moon (Tsurumi island lore)

[errant lance]

so

[elder vapor]

tl;dr i guess...
Moon Sisters were the ones ruling Seelies and took care of humanity together with htem

[errant lance]

questions

who the hell is the second who came, what is the moon chariot, who is the lady of the golden hall

[blazing hollow]

yeah i think that 6000 years is pretty much the farthest we have into the past unless i forgot smt

[elder vapor]

aight

well

[errant lance]

and how is the moon a corpse

[elder vapor]

the Moon Chariot thing is simple

[errant lance]

like how massive were these fuckers

[elder vapor]

it's a greek mythology thing

[distant sentinel]

Second who came alien invaders (not a joke)

[polar forge]

Most likely, Celestia, as for the last one she might be the keepr of fate and a Shade.

[elder vapor]

and the "pale corpse in the sky" is likely a metaphor

[blazing hollow]

second who came is celestia

[distant sentinel]

not really

[blazing hollow]

the moons are the corpses i think

[distant sentinel]

According to the new lore, it was phanes himself who nailed teyvat

[errant lance]

with the amount of greek mythos i know and yet i dont know what the fuck a moon chariot is

[polar forge]

We suspected that

[errant lance]

nailed teyvat?

[elder vapor]

so first the chariot
basically
Greeks thought that the Sun and the Moon were dragged along the sky to make day and night
dragged by gods - Helios and Selene
they eventually got switched out to other more popular gods, but that's beside the point

[errant lance]

you mean like the skyfrost nail, type of nailing?

[distant sentinel]

yeah

[errant lance]

ah, i get the gift of it now

i think

aparently istaroth is the reason the solar chariot fell?

[elder vapor]

for Second Who Came, that's Enkanomiya's "Before Sun and Moon" book
basically
Teyvat exists
Vishaps (aka Dragons) are the ones living there
Primordial one arrives, makes 4 shades and kicks the hell out of vishaps, either killing them or banishing off the continent (Geo vishaps live underground and hydro vishaps live in the ocean)

[polar forge]

Asmoday was the good guy along

[clever gull]

💀💀

[distant sentinel]

“It was a faraway time of calm and peace. Divine envoys spoke openly with the people then, bringing them the word from the heavens…”
“But, in time, invaders descended from beyond the firmament, bringing with them destruction, overturning rivers, spreading plagues…”
“And though the invaders brought war to my former kin, they also brought about illusions that could break through shackles to the land.”
“But the master of the heavens, consumed by fear for the rising tide of delusion and breakthroughs, sent down the divine nails to mend the land, laying waste to the mortal realm…”
“We then suffered the torment of exile. Stripped was our connection to heaven, to our powers of enlightenment…”

“Since the disaster, I have long been cursed to never again look upon the heavens. It is my fortune that I have been able to maintain myself till now…”

Where Kin == Seelies

[elder vapor]

Primordial creates wildlife and humans and all that
people live happily
Second Who Came shows up and starts another war, which results in the Original Civilization getting nuked into oblivion

[polar forge]

Makes sesne

[elder vapor]

Enkanomiya being a part of that civ that got buried beneath the Ocean Floor

[polar forge]

we know the seelies died off

[errant lance]

did the primordial one make enkanomiya as a sort of prison for humans?

why did he even create that in the first place

[elder vapor]

well not really

it kinda just fell down
and he didn't wanna pick it up

so it turned out to be a prison, yeah
or more like a grave really

[distant sentinel]

I think the primordial one just yoinked it there...oh there were vishaps there, they will die

covers hole

there, no vishaps from hole

[polar forge]

That's probably why

[elder vapor]

remember that piece of Enka-style architecture is in the Chasm btw

so uh

[errant lance]

wait wait wait

[polar forge]

og civ

Actually

[blazing hollow]

and because it was super duper dark there they invented the fake sun in enkanomiya

[elder vapor]

likely Enka, just as other pieces, fell down during the conflict

[blazing hollow]

so that they could stay safe from the vishaps

[errant lance]

why exactly did he nail the mortal realm when he createed it?

[polar forge]

Dain said it more closely related to Khaenri'ahn architecture

[errant lance]

that doesnt even make sense

also what is the chasm anyway

[polar forge]

a hole

[distant sentinel]

He afraid humans would escape his rule

[elder vapor]

that's after the Second Who Came war

basically

think about it this way

[distant sentinel]

Which clearly shows how Phanes is a demiurge

[polar forge]

So who is the first

[elder vapor]

you have this guy who's been your god for as long as you remember
then out of nowhere another god shows up and tries to beat him
and even after your god ultimately wins, you wonder if there's anything out there beyond the firmament

and your god doesn't want you to go out

so he locks you up

[polar forge]

wait so phanes did win?

[distant sentinel]

Plus these other guys who show up tell humanity that you can beat up god

[polar forge]

YO that ties in to the

they're hiding PO theory

[errant lance]

po?

[distant sentinel]

Primordial One aka Phanes

[errant lance]

ah

[polar forge]

maybe phanes

[elder vapor]

that's the funniest part

can't even call them Phanes

[polar forge]

right

[errant lance]

so basically

the second who came, had a war with PO, PO won, his people wanted to try and leave

for what ever reason

that i dont really understand

so he locked them in enkonomiya?

[elder vapor]

well...
not so much they "wanted to"

he just didn't like the possibility

so he buried whatever civilization remnants were left and started from scratch

[polar forge]

Ecological dead zone from beyond the firmament

[distant sentinel]

the war and him being afraid of human betrayal pretty much broke the world to the point that enkanomiya fell into a hole

[errant lance]

that reminds me, so the second who came were technically a part of the heavenly order, even after being defeated...but what happened to them?

did they jsut die?

[elder vapor]

we do not know

[polar forge]

I always assumed the Celestian Pantheon was the second

[distant sentinel]

No heavenly order most probably phanes

[elder vapor]

the only perspective on it we have is the Before Sun and Moon
which was written by a scribe of Istaroth
who was already down in Enkanomiya by then

[errant lance]

no because if they were defeated why would they be ruling?

[polar forge]

cus

[errant lance]

wait why was the scribe in enkanomiya?

[polar forge]

guerilla warrior theory

[blazing hollow]

who is the third descender tho?
||aloy /j||

[distant sentinel]

Second who came was more into advancing humanity though

Current celestia is more like FU humans

[polar forge]

Are you sure about that?

I thought that is why they did the whole

[elder vapor]

sigh
ok look
i repeat again
Enkanomiya wasn't built as a prison
it's literally a piece of land that fell down through a crack in the Earth and got covered up from above

it just happened to lock whoever was there down ther

[distant sentinel]

with angry dragons

[polar forge]

Liz

[errant lance]

i find it hilariously ironic that the same dude that fought 7 dragons and created the earth and heavens "for humanity" ended up being the downfall for the original civilization

[elder vapor]

wel

we are lacking many details

[distant sentinel]

we still dont know why he created humanity

[errant lance]

straight from the wiki

[polar forge]

He got old

[polar forge]

That last part is probably speculation

That is why we said Phanes might be the PO

[errant lance]

hm

we dont really know much about phanes

[polar forge]

Cus if I remember correctly the documents that you find in Enkanomiya

say

Phanes might be the Primordial One

[elder vapor]

we do know their presumed appearance

[polar forge]

besides they've been down there for like 10,000 years so

idk

maybe some info got lost

[elder vapor]

born of an egg
genderless
has wings and a golden crown

yes

[errant lance]

sorry, but im gonna ask

[elder vapor]

it's very funny that it's kinda similar description to Paimon

[polar forge]

I think the egg is just a spaceship

[errant lance]

so after he sent the humans down to enkonomiya, did he literally just create another batch of humans?

[polar forge]

No

There were already humans on Teyvat

[distant sentinel]

curiously

[elder vapor]

...pretty much
or just worked with whoever was left on the surface
we don't know

[polar forge]

some just fell into the hole

[distant sentinel]

Goddess of flowers told Deshret this

“Otherwise, as shown by the nail of retribution, certain calamity and sorrow shall follow.”

[errant lance]

what was the point of trapping them? if he didnt want them to leak out information only the originals knew, why didnt he just kill them outright?

[polar forge]

killing bad

[elder vapor]

aye
so basically
Celestia bans ANYONE from looking into the pre-Celestia Teyvat lore

even gods

Orobashi got killed for accidentally reading the book

[distant sentinel]

but the master of the heavens is the master of the four shades

[errant lance]

yeah

wait

imma headcannon a bit

i think the head of celestia is PO

[distant sentinel]

i think its just the first one who changed his mind

[polar forge]

mf fell into a bad crowd

[errant lance]

my headcannon is that PO is alive in celestia ruling or someshit

[polar forge]

😔

[elder vapor]

if i recall, Goddess of Flowers was supposedly a seelie survivor?
and Deshret a Celestian that got kicked out?

[polar forge]

he got himself a new gang of friends

[distant sentinel]

something like that

[errant lance]

the bitch literally nailed the mortal realm, i dont think he cares lmao

[distant sentinel]

but somehow deshret was born...after the war

[elder vapor]

oh yeah fun fact btw

[errant lance]

what are seelies anyway?

[elder vapor]

weird floaty moon people

[distant sentinel]

^

[blazing hollow]

yeah he had to make the decision of being killed in the war or him and his people being killed

[elder vapor]

aye

anyway
so
fun fact

[errant lance]

you might have explained this already but why did the seelies die off?

[elder vapor]

Second Who Came is also known as "Second Throne"
at first, i didn't know what to do with the word "throne" there
till i researched biblical angels

[polar forge]

I was totally RIGHT

about the thrones tho

[elder vapor]

ok, so basically there was an Outlander, presumably another Descender
and they married a Seelie
and Seelies are apparently forbidden to fall in love (either at all, or just with mortals, idk)
so something very bad happened after that

[elder vapor]

so yeah
uh
THrones

Thrones are the second highest tier of angel

[errant lance]

huh, so tahts how the chasm was made

...

neat

[errant lance]

let me guess. Nails?

[polar forge]

Zhong Li's fat ass broke the earth when he fell

[elder vapor]

we do not know the details

[errant lance]

zhong-dong-li fell and made a crator

[elder vapor]

but basically seelies lost their physical forms and much of their intellect

now they're just funny little ghosts with basic thoughts

[errant lance]

lmao because some dude wanted love???

[polar forge]

they had it down bad and paid for it

[elder vapor]

ah yeah
so you've probably heard the joke about "biblically accurate angels" before, right

[polar forge]

nah they haven't

[errant lance]

yeah

[elder vapor]

"wheels with eyeballs and wings" kind

yeah

[errant lance]

yup

[elder vapor]

that's Thrones

literal God's wheels

[errant lance]

wait what

[polar forge]

I remember that

[elder vapor]

yes

[errant lance]

wait wait wait

back up a bit

[polar forge]

no

[errant lance]

stfu

anyway

[polar forge]

I will not throw it back

[elder vapor]

there's a type of angel called Throne
usually depicted as bunch of wheels with eyes and wings

hence
biblically accurate angel
except it's just one of the 9 types

[polar forge]

Yeah you have the thrones, serphs ect ect

[elder vapor]

highest tier is Seraphim, for example, their shtick is having 6 wings and constantly singing praise to God, as well as never leaving his side

[amber dawn]

https://media.giphy.com/media/1a7RvEqed2kcpm63Br/giphy.gif

[errant lance]

well yeah, i know about about the thrones in christian mythology as literal chariots but

[elder vapor]

you dare bring my favorite bastard into this conversation

[errant lance]

how does that translate to the divine thrones?

[elder vapor]

my hypothesis

[errant lance]

oh

[elder vapor]

the "Second Throne" is meant to be a type of angel

[errant lance]

well, it would make sense

would

but

PO is technically the first throne

[elder vapor]

kinda

[errant lance]

meaning there would be something higher than himk

[elder vapor]

but he's never called that

[errant lance]

hm

still

while it kind of makes sense

[amber dawn]

ahahahahah this is all actually just otto's fan fiction. but i find it interesting how hoyo loves to use angels as like a basis

[errant lance]

there a lot of plot holes there

[elder vapor]

well
Otto is my favorite villain

rarely if ever you get the kind of villain that you feel like cheering for when he does his last stand

"Malice of the world will be sundered by a villain"

love that bitch

[errant lance]

im gonna be honest here

[amber dawn]

True, although I hate him, he makes a good villain.

[errant lance]

this is probably a big strech of a headcannon

but i think PO isnt actually like...the creator

well i believe he created the human realm and stuff

[elder vapor]

yeah

[amber dawn]

PO is primordial one right?

[elder vapor]

ik

cuz

[errant lance]

but that hes not the highest being

[elder vapor]

Teyvat existed before PO

[errant lance]

yeah

[elder vapor]

he just came in

[errant lance]

exactly

[amber dawn]

yeah, the 7 dragon lords right?

[distant sentinel]

Teyvat is a continent of a place

I think teyvat was built on the "Teyvat world"

[errant lance]

hence why hes technically the first throne, aswell as why eboshi believed the " the identity behind the heavenly order is ambiguous."

[elder vapor]

aye

wanna hear about Lady of the Golden Hall?

[blazing hollow]

yes pls

[elder vapor]

cuz i do
i don't know much either, aside from basics

[amber dawn]

yesss

[elder vapor]

basically...
there's this one ghost you find at Tsurumi after clearing Ruu's storyline

[errant lance]

bet

[elder vapor]

boat guy

[polar forge]

Well technically

probably not

and I mean just the name

[elder vapor]

talking about needing to gather other ghosts to send them off to the "Lady"

[blazing hollow]

oh yeah tsurumi

[blazing hollow]

ah i remember

but who was that lady

[elder vapor]

saying how she's sad or angry or smth about people not making it there in time

we don't know who she is

but

we do know that this Golden Hall is on the Moon... i think

so a good guess is that she's the remaining Moon Sister

[distant sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/hutao-genshin-genshin-impact-coffin-dance-coffin-gif-20607193

[elder vapor]

instead of being dead, she locked herself in the palace

[errant lance]

so they made a golden hall on what they think is a pale corpse of a moon sister?

god damn

[elder vapor]

as i said

[distant sentinel]

some stuff isn't literal

[elder vapor]

the "pale corpse in the sky" is metaphoric most likely

[amber dawn]

jesus christ

[elder vapor]

ain't no way people thought a celestial body is a person

[errant lance]

its genshin

[distant sentinel]

errr

[errant lance]

im taking everything at face value

[distant sentinel]

didn't the egiptians said the sun was a god?

[errant lance]

there is too much shit to sprinkle some metaphores in

[elder vapor]

mm

could be a sort of...

"sign of the fallen civilization"

[errant lance]

sorry for random factoid

but im finding it funny how the aritficial sun in enko is called "helios"

or was called that

[elder vapor]

Random Factoid
the Japanese myths about "moon rabbits" are a thing because they thought the "seas" on the Moon look like a rabbit making mochi

and we call them seas, because ancient Europeans thought darker spots had water

[elder vapor]

not that weird, since we know OG Civ was Greek-based

at least in terms of names

[distant sentinel]

What bothers me is why there are two ancient civilizations

[errant lance]

khaenriah im assuming?

man, i remember back when we though khaneriah was as far back as the story went...

[elder vapor]

Khaenri'ah only starter forming after Dragonspine's Sal Vindagnyr fell

[distant sentinel]

No, Khaenriah has different architecture

[polar forge]

that isn't saying much

[distant sentinel]

most likely spiral abyss

[elder vapor]

which "ancient civ" do you mean then

[distant sentinel]

(lotsa bridges, boxy)

Enkanomiya and Chasm => Triangle shaped architecture
Sal vygnadir et all => Round things

[elder vapor]

that's the weird part
Domains
Abyss
Khaenri'ah
tons of ruins across Teyvat itself

all the same, yet can't really be

it's same architecture as Dragonspine

[errant lance]

wasnt it slightly before? since one of the citizens said they hope khaenriah could fight the gods

[elder vapor]

but Dragonspine had it's own Civ

[errant lance]

what even are domains

[elder vapor]

it was more like...
Dragonspine fell
survivors were like "there's this new place building not too far away, guess we can go there"

[elder vapor]

large alchemy stations

altars

[polar forge]

I don't think so imo

[elder vapor]

something like that

[distant sentinel]

Dragonspine architecture is similar to the dahri ruins in sumeru, and similar to those ancient ruins in araumi

[polar forge]

I think Khaenri'ah just had that reputation

[elder vapor]

we know for a fact Dahri just means Khaenri'ah for Sumeru

[distant sentinel]

but i think the sumerans called it like that because its full of khaenriah stuff

like ruin guards and gigantic mechas

[errant lance]

domains are just large alchemy stations?

in what way?

like were they used by people before?

[elder vapor]

every single domain has a sprout of irminsul

[distant sentinel]

Story domains dont

[elder vapor]

and every single one has the abyssal script, as well as the weird dual-mural

[errant lance]

in english please...

what the fuck is an abyssal script

and what is a dual mural

[distant sentinel]

those letters from abyss mages

[elder vapor]

abyssal script = the language abyss mages use and the runes you see in domains

it's

basically latin

[distant sentinel]

this

mural is this

[elder vapor]

there are some parts about the mural that can be inferred or attempted to be translated

for example, the top 5 circles are PO and the shades

the Triquetra could be Moon Sisters, but one of them is broken up

[errant lance]

the fact that people could tell what these are greatly concerns me

[elder vapor]

the weird eye-shaped leaves around the bottom middle are irminsul fruits/stars of constellations

around the bottom is also a symbol known as "triskelion"

the triple-spiral thingy

[distant sentinel]

But wait those murals shouldn't include broken triquetra

I mean. If they were done by the unified civilization

The moon broke at pretty much the end of their civilization

[vernal crypt]

is this a archon voice leak?? does anyone know who this is

not leak but

preview or wtvr

[elder vapor]

unlikely to be archon

we have no reason to believe it is one

[errant lance]

so what youre telling me is that domains are sprouts from irminsul but controlled by the abyss order?

[distant sentinel]

i'm surprised they would go to paint a mural with gold while they're dying

[vernal crypt]

i mean that's how we first heard nahida's voice

[distant sentinel]

Nahida phoned us

[elder vapor]

Venti - has ability to bring voices through wind and time
Zhongli - able to visit people in their dreams
Nahida - able to literally see your dreams and mind in general
Ei doesn't seem to have any abilities like that and we don't know of other archons being able to either

[errant lance]

zhongli can visit people in their dreams?

wait im still confused on what domains are

why there are monsters in there

why the abyssal scripts

ect.

[elder vapor]

oh yeah
the domains may be even more ancient actually, if you take the lore from the 4 elemental crowns

[elder vapor]

monsters spawn out of ley line-related stuff
domains have ley line disorders
when we beat the monsters, we revitalize the tree and get rewards (which are actually just physical form of memories of whoever used those items before)

[distant sentinel]

Thats another plot hole

"The loop"

[errant lance]

but that doesnt make sense

was the domain around the tree man made?

[elder vapor]

nothing does at this point

likely so

[errant lance]

why do we need to revitalize it each time?

[distant sentinel]

so it gives us presents

[errant lance]

more like shit on a shingle

[elder vapor]

because something is fundamentally wrong with ley lines and irminsul

[errant lance]

yeah, as if it didnt exist even bore PO came over

[elder vapor]

there were no ley line disorders in the distant past

because everything was stable

but something sure fucked them up

imma get some sleep....

[distant sentinel]

PO probably created irminsul

[elder vapor]

if anything interesting rolls up, tag me

[elder vapor]

irminsul may have been created after the Second Throne War

[errant lance]

gn ice

thanks for the explination

[distant sentinel]

True, if we go with Istaroth helping ei create a freaking tree

[errant lance]

maybe PO created irminsul with the bodies of the second who came as fertilizer?

[elder vapor]

mm

should look into the name itself

"irminsul"

[errant lance]

and used something similar to the sakura seed from inazuma

[distant sentinel]

omni seed

[errant lance]

maybe he made it out of his own body?

would explain why the tree reaches for far

or out of a piece of the dragons

[elder vapor]

so basically it's a localization thing

[distant sentinel]

yeah

chinese is world tree

[elder vapor]

Irminsul is basically Yggdrassil

[distant sentinel]

it is actually complicated

[elder vapor]

at least it ain't Sephirot/Qlyphot

[distant sentinel]

the trnaslation fixes the issue with multiple irminsuls getting destroyed

aka...the other irminsuls were just white trees

and irminsul == world tree

[wild steeple]

I like how traveler ||judgement cut'd the boulder that almost hit Wanderer||

[distant sentinel]

he getting stronger

[weary oriole]

ok so what the fuck was that voice at the end of the new quest?

[distant sentinel]

Da Wei telling lore crafters to not think EVERYTHING IS A LIE

[fresh osprey]

i checked the travel log and the initial trailer, and i think the voice looks a lot alike the unknown god

did we finally manage to wake up the big shot

[distant sentinel]

it isn't sustuna

[weary oriole]

who is sus tuna

[distant sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/kiana-kiana-tuna-honkai-gif-20764747

Of heavenly principles

[weary oriole]

oh

suspicious tuna

[distant sentinel]

https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/audio/dialogue/wav/30320511_cn.ogg

[blazing hollow]

lmao i leave for 30 minutes and i see a fish

[distant sentinel]

why the chinese version sounds like she's in a glass box?

oh you cant access it directly?

[wild steeple]

I thought it was Alice

[distant sentinel]

she sounded too boring to be alice

alice's voice is more spicy

[weary oriole]

[plush flower]

||new copium theory. What if the lady was the tsartisa but she was using the gnosis to connect to the traveller||

[amber dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-kiana-beaten-beat-hurt-gif-14006546

[novel bear]

I've seen so many different people be pinned to the voice.
Istaroth, Alice,

[ancient silo]

Does anyone have any ideas who is the mysterious voice at the of scara quest is?

[acoustic pagoda]

where the frick did he get his vision from

why is no one asking thay

[distant sentinel]

From all the archons it feels the most logical one

[hidden whale]

Istaroth

[jovial blaze]

Not sure where to put this

But what is that

[plush flower]

Celestia

I think we’ll be able to go there in fontaine

[jovial blaze]

Feel like I am the first to see it

And idk it look like it's on top of the desert

You think Fontaine has a desert in it

[plush flower]

No probably not

The reason why I don’t think it’s Istaroth tbh because the voice of the person felt too robotic?

[jovial blaze]

Yea but it doesn't feel like fontana archon either

So maybe its....

LUMINE MOM!!!!

[fresh osprey]

can't outrule it. I mean, there are 3 other descenders. And appearently people who can talk with you like Nahida are the ones who can connect directly to Irminsul. Sustainer can, Tsaritsa also probably can... there's a hand full of people who could do it, and somehow all possibilities are exciting

[jovial blaze]

the frag is a sustainer

someone who into among us too much

[weary oriole]

That's a possibility

[weary oriole]

Im removing my bet on hydro archon it could be istaroth

Idk why im thinking this but i feel like its istaroth

[tawdry blade]

Leak name is Ayame,but don't know who that is

[idle arch]

||scara getting his vision was a really cool scene||

[weary oriole]

Pantalone, the richest harbinger

Theofan definitely reached out to pantalone.

Pantalone might be the richest person in the world.

Yo, this quest is sus.

[blazing hollow]

lmao yeah

yelan even snatched the coat from him

the fur she wears was a present to the tsaritsa from pantalone

but she was like „no lol“

[slate agate]

HALP!! I CANT DECIDE ON WANDERER'S NAME!!!

[junior nacelle]

I named mine Löki

I thought it suited him xD

[weary oriole]

name him babygirl

[slate agate]

I called him Futen

[tough halo]

Did wangshen stop posting leaks?

[rain fog]

if it fits...

[spark vapor]

I called him pesci

[uneven turret]

can someone explain why traveler even cared about scara erasing himself? like at first the reasoning was that they were afraid the change might affect their friends, but then after they found out everything was still the same/ok, why were they still so upset and preoccupied with it?

like they really could have just left it alone

[wild steeple]

He's a bit softie

[stoic cypress]

NO THAT WAS MY NAME

I WAS GONNA NAME HIM SASSUKE

[rain fog]

We are twinning

[stoic cypress]

totally didnt search up good wanderer names

[stoic cypress]

yay

||yo was tht the hydro archon talking at the end of the quest||

[wild nexus]

People speculate it was ||the god of time|| or the ||hydro archon of course.||

[stoic cypress]

||what theres a god of time now?||

[wild nexus]

Yeah, it’s been a thing for a while 😭

[lusty crest]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Istaroth?so=search

[weary oriole]

Who's the VA?

This scene

I need to know

She sounds so damn familiar but I cant wrap my head around it

The JP VA

[stoic cypress]

oh damn

[lusty crest]

Unknown, tho ||it's called Amane in the beta files||

[weary oriole]

Damn

If I can just figure out who's the VA

I will know who that character is

The va is clearly "???"

[old lodge]

besides worrying about the changing timeline , earlier on the quest , nahida already told him that scara would be a good asset since he knows more about the fatui and what not , also just before he erase himself , he dropped a huge info about someone related to the abyss sibling

[lusty crest]

Gaph said that the CN va is the same one as Durandal/Bianka

[old lodge]

just the fact that he might have more info about the abyss sibling is reason enough imo

[weary oriole]

Is the CN VA for Nahida is the same for Theresa?

[lusty crest]

I think so yeah

[weary oriole]

Because CN VA for Albedo and Fischl are Fu Hua

[lusty crest]

Not sure but you could search it up

[lusty crest]

Jp and Cn VAs are the same yeah

[weary oriole]

Same one

[uneven turret]

i don't know, traveler even seemed kind of offended at the end when he suggested that their relationship and traveler helping him was just a transactional thing or traveler was doing it so that he would owe them

[weary oriole]

Fontaine is based on what country now?

[lusty crest]

France

[weary oriole]

Really doesnt add up but I guess we can assume that the next character will look like Dudu

Well hopefully

and not a klee replica

[uneven turret]

everyone from fontaine has annoying voices in eng dub so far

[weary oriole]

JP VA ftw

[uneven turret]

yeah i play jp dub i just know what eng sounds like bc i like watching genshin streams and stuff too lol

[old lodge]

everyone from fontaine? who

[weary oriole]

I still hope there will be actual Honkai characters in Genshin

[uneven turret]

like literally every single npc we've met heard speak from there so far

[old lodge]

oh npc

[weary oriole]

I was genuinely disappointed when Nahida didnt look like Theresa

[uneven turret]

yeah hopefully they wont give the playable characters annoying voices too lol

[weary oriole]

I mean

I hope so

Paimon is less annoying in JP for me

But then again, I play with JP VA on any games really

[lusty crest]

and she's even less annoying in CN

[weary oriole]

Even COD, how disgraceful of me

[uneven turret]

yeah just paimon wise CN > JP > EN

en is by far the most grating to me

i really hate how she talks in 3rd person too 🥲

bc she doesn't in any other language

[weary oriole]

That EN for you

[uneven turret]

they just want to be quirky and different so bad

i'm not an en dub hater tho, some of the VAs do really good work

but i really question the choices of the director sometimes lol

[weary oriole]

The reason traveler cared for Scaramouche is probably because he might change the timeline or disrupt reality. We did checked in inazuma tho. Plus, he said an important information to us. It's kind of a friendly concern.

[uneven turret]

yeah but im talking about after

like even after traveler realizes it didn't disrupt reality and everything is not changed

they are still really worried and concerned about him

i guess just general friendly concern makes sense

like they probably did not hate him anymore by that point

[lusty crest]

Traveler is a gentle and naive soul. That's even what Scara basically told him in his About Damselette voiceline

[weary oriole]

I don't think they'll cross him. He's on our side now actually. He has no place to go.

Only nahida and traveler remembered scaramouche existence completely. Paimon just got a few hints.

[uneven turret]

tbh i think he wants traveler to care deep down, like he says stuff that makes me think that way multiple times

"you sound like you're concerned about me" "are you worried about me?" "those words almost make you sound like you care" "the way you say that, it almost sounds like you're worried about me" etc like lol

[weary oriole]

Oh those lines

[uneven turret]

yeah, there are multiple lines like that

and yeah id say scara is even more on our side than childe at this point since he actually left the fatui

[weary oriole]

Traveler has always had a friendly personality in game. Scaramouche isn't used to any affection from other people. He got exposed to a tough environment.

[uneven turret]

yeah that's a good point

he probably hasn't had anyone really do anything for him just to be nice in a very long time

[weary oriole]

Even though he's a puppet, he still somehow can feel like humans.

He can't even thank nahida. It's kinda awkward for him.

[uneven turret]

a lot of the things he was saying about how relationships between humans are only transactional and stuff was like the exact same stuff dottore was saying in that scene with niwa

[weary oriole]

But as wanderer, he did.

[uneven turret]

so i think he got a lot of those beliefs from dottore

[weary oriole]

Yeah, Dottore is a bad influence.

[uneven turret]

yeah i think hes the type to try to show his feelings with his actions instead of saying it

its obviously awkward for him like you said

but him deciding to join them says a lot

[weary oriole]

His personality here became like kazuha's.

[uneven turret]

and him protecting traveler too from the mecha

[weary oriole]

Compared to this

[uneven turret]

its sad he still basically thinks he deserves to die even at the end though

[weary oriole]

Yeah

[uneven turret]

yeah i sort of think at the end these 2 personalities merged

in jp that exchange about the raiden gokaden descendents is like : "if they want, they can stab me in the chest with a sword. or rather.. that's what i should have done to myself already..." "..." "what are those eyes for? please don't make that face.. i know what i'm doing. "

[weary oriole]

In his trailer also, he always regretted being alive.

Depressed puppet

[uneven turret]

yeah i think you could tell by the end that traveler was feeling pity for him

when he's wanderer he asks "if we were enemies, then why are you helping me?" and they don't really have answer or explanation

but i think they're just a good person and they care

[weary oriole]

That's more reasonable outcome. They just want to help him. He's renewed himself and wanted to change. It kinda makes sense.

[uneven turret]

yeah i agree

i hope he doesnt just totally disappear from the story now though

not sure if its even possible for him to included in events and stuff, maybe traveler will just keep his identity a secret from most people

[weary oriole]

Signora said it herself. He was abused far more times than others. He's always a subject.

There should be a story quest for him when we get to fight dottore or his plans.

That's his main goal now.

Lol

They had lines during the fight. I took screenshots. The enemy was not signora tho.

[frosty blaze]

Question about the End of the 3.3 Archon Quest: Who was the voice at the end that talked to paimon and the MC about the broken vase?

[weary oriole]

No confirmed answer. But there are two characters in speculation. Some say it's istaroth, while others say it's focalors.

All this time, i didn't know i can send a video.

Mysterious voice

There's one person here mentioned another possible candidate which is the tsaritsa. It's possible that she has the dendro gnosis already and that she's using it to talk to us.

But idk if that's how gnosis really work.

[lean lagoon]

Wouldn't she have also forgotten about him since Nahida did

[finite finch]

I mean the voice says maybe a god has a slim chance of remembering but at the same time I could be over thinking it

I love the voice though it's so soothing in my opinion

[lean lagoon]

I could not remember the exact dialogue

[finite finch]

neither could I. I just watched the video

[weary oriole]

i think it's asmoday

[weary oriole]

Who's she?

[weary oriole]

Her voice and sustainer's are not alike

[lean lagoon]

The dendro archon?

[weary oriole]

No no you said "wouldn't she" who she? Lumine?

[lean lagoon]

The tsaritsa

[weary oriole]

Oh. Then yes. But idk if the tsaritsa is a descender. We don't know yet.

If she is, then she's most likely not gonna get affected by obliviate.

[blazing hollow]

i think it might be istaroth

that would be huge

[weary oriole]

yeah istaroth does make the most sense

[blazing hollow]

we would be finally getting more phanes and shades lore

maybe venti too

[weary oriole]

It's a popular theory. But no guarantee.

[blazing hollow]

yeah but i just cant think of someone else

its obviously not alice and idk about focalors

probably not her either

[weary oriole]

We have a clue tho. The jp voice says "heavenly voice".

[lean lagoon]

Phanes and shades?

[weary oriole]

It could be.

[lean lagoon]

No I meant that as a question

[sour kiln]

can i post beta leaks here

or strictly no leaks

[blazing hollow]

phanes is the primordial one

[blazing hollow]

wouldn’t recommend

[lean lagoon]

Ah

[weary oriole]

It's not strict. You can post. But you may get banned.

[sour kiln]

christoff said leek allowed 😍

[weary oriole]

Yay

! !

[weary oriole]

Bro

Why is alhaitham still wearing akasha terminal?

[lean lagoon]

Maybe while it doesn't work he kept it cuz it makes him look smart

[sour kiln]

second sword

idk if this was already sent

can see when a domain is under ground

[weary oriole]

so were gonna get to the new celestial nail?

[lean lagoon]

I believe so

[sour kiln]

setekh sandworm

[lean lagoon]

How does it see lol

[weary oriole]

Great

So lantern rite and new region

and eula

[blazing hollow]

gosh this boss looks already annoying as hell to deal with

[weary oriole]

dendro chasm worm

[blazing hollow]

frfr

everything that seems to resemble a worm is annoying in this game😭

and the new boss wont be an exception

i fear it already

[hazy sinew]

does the second sword only appear if you have his signature ?

[sour kiln]

think it just happens regardless the weapon

[hazy sinew]

ohh alright, thanks !

[whole dune]

any idea when is the new story coming out?
i am almost done with sumeru and i can’t wait for the new exploration map.

[uneven turret]

lol my sister had no idea about naming the wanderer and she was so stressed out about it

[lean lagoon]

I copy paste one and apparently it didn't register so now his name has spaces which it should not have

[blazing hollow]

i just named him wanderer and then changed it to scaramouche

[lean lagoon]

I messaged support to ask if they can help

[blazing hollow]

i think new dainsleif quest was speculated to be in 3.5

not sure tho

so i think next patch just alhaitham story quest

[gleaming geyser]

weirdly enough this gave me goosebumps as well as made me chuckle a bit

[brave valve]

I just realised something
||is Alice a descender??||

[fiery token]

Aight so I spent some time looking at al haithams burst

and the words that show up are seemingly a reference to the 4 causes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_causes

For example, the only words I could really make out were the following

Ousia - Essence/substance
Ergon - Work
Teoria - Theory

and the fact that all the words in his burst are of greek origin, seems kinda fitting

His burst name itself refers to the fact that all sentient beings are binded to the samsara

Thus, all the words present in his burst reveal the very things that bind us

And if my conclusions are correct

I feel this could be more evidence of Haitham being the reincarnated scarlet king

hes trying to find a way to bring the GoF back

by understanding how to bind a person to the samsara

[left valley]

Question, y'all! What is this news about directly confirmed shared lore between Honkai and Genshin during the latest Honkai update

[autumn widget]

Another question for you guys. So I know there’s another wipe to the new archon quest with scara and I wanna reread everything connected to him before doing that quest. So changes should be; yae/ei/childe voicelines, the amenoma kageuchi lore, husk set and possibly the pale flame set could be him or signora. Is there anything I’m missing like voicelines bc someone said mona had one? Any weapons or books etc I missed? Probably anything connected to the iridori festival too

[bitter ferry]

deleted cutscene of scara doing hand-to-hand combat with traveler /j

[autumn widget]

Pfffft ty

[granite dawn]

scara got his vision in the dream right? how does that make him have a vision outside the dream

[tawdry blade]

We teleported in the dream so

Ig vision bypass everything

[stable glen]

think there were some story lore stuff where people dreamed about getting a vision and woke up with one.

[wide harness]

Bro there are like 4 more ruin giants in the new map 💀

[sick topaz]

Do we get to go down there?

[weary oriole]

Ayo

I wonder if people pay just to get in the beta test.

They sure are early in everything.

[novel bear]

Hoyoverse finally listened and gave us underground indicators

[sour kiln]

feel like since nost of the land isnjust sand

with no structures

therell be a lot of undergound stuff

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/zhkpxz/34_windbitten_sandworm_boss_gameplay/

and then looks annoying

great idea 🤪

[echo plaza]

interesting

[lusty crest]

It doesn't lol

[tawdry blade]

Ye just like real life worm,they dontyhave eye right? Idk too lazy to google search, "they have cells called receptors that can sense whether it's light or dark. "

I guess that why the worm don't attack the player that much in the showcase

[hybrid plinth]

Who is the 6th fatui harbinger?

Is signora alive?

[versed wigeon]

We can't be 100% sure but the "only to..." suggests something bad still happened

[wide harness]

sneezes

[weary oriole]

ok but what was that voice at the end of the new quest

[lean lagoon]

Irminul can't change the past so she's still dead

[hybrid plinth]

Next archon

[sick fable]

can anyone here read CN

is this eng translation accurate (last part of interlude):
EN: ||Unfortunately, the fate of Teyvat cannot easily be changed. Perhaps a god may have a slim chance, but for anyone else... who can say.||
CN: ||不过很可惜，提瓦特的命运轻易无法撼动。神明尚且有微小的可能，非神之身…就难说了。||

i know i shouldnt trust translators but it says "||Unfortunately, Teyvat's fate is easily unshakable. There is still a slight possibility that the gods are not gods... It's hard to say.||"

more so worried about the bolded part

i think translator just didnt know how to break it down tho. makes sense when i split things up to get:
||There's still a small possibility for the gods, but non-gods... it's hard to say.||

[uneven turret]

i can read a bit and ye i would translate that as ||"the gods still have a tiny possibility, but non gods.. it's difficult to say"|| or something along those lines

@sick fable

[sick fable]

ok ty <3333

got very concerned over the translation lmAO

i appreciate it

[uneven turret]

no worries

[hidden whale]

literally just a reskinned ruin serpent

[weary oriole]

fr

[hidden whale]

too easy

[fallow crystal]

What world is this?

[fervent garnet]

?

mond

[fallow crystal]

Oh

I thought that was another world right above mond

[fervent garnet]

у меня плохой английский

my english so bad

proshu menea prostiti

[blazing hollow]

the thing above might be the dandelion sea

[weary oriole]

Where’s this from?

[fervent garnet]

I do not understand you

my english is bad

[glossy bough]

Omg! Scara's backstory brought me to tears, ||mainly because of Niwa's emotions and sacrifice. I just reached the archon quest where we rename scara and I want to rename him Niwa since he was willing to give his heart for scara. ||

I want to pull Scara solely based on the storyline. 😩

[fallow crystal]

сказали откуда. новый мир или монсдадт

[fervent garnet]

А

it's or fontein

or mondshtat

[fallow crystal]

а ок спасибо

[sharp bane]

That looks like an AI expanded Mondstadt

[sour kiln]

this is just fan art of mondstadt expansion

[wide harness]

the

[uneven turret]

niwa is his last name, his first name is actually hisahide

[glossy bough]

Yep, I know. The story quest kept referring him as niwa, so just used it in the chat

[uneven turret]

either way i think its a nice idea

[wild steeple]

||Can we get much higher||

[hybrid plinth]

Kinda same here

[idle arch]

I pulled and I got dliuc instead

so yeah

[uneven turret]

its ok reruns will always be a thing

[sturdy bridge]

smol

[sturdy bridge]

💢 💢 💢 💢 💢 💢 💢 💢

[tawdry blade]

By the time he rerun there probably already better character (gameplay wise and mechanic)

[neat sage]

i need tl:dr this story is too long

[weary oriole]

Read it

[neat sage]

wha-

[quasi frigate]

Imagine in game harbingers signature weapons are insane like this fan art

[lament portal]

I still want Ei and YukiScara meet somehow and them being cute and wholesome with each other, but now its gonna be only more depressing ;___;

[weary oriole]

Them meeting would require a high purpose. Like a major event like a fight.

Probably saving each other, specially with the encounter with the fatui.

[uneven turret]

that was never going to happen bffr

cute and wholesome meeting i mean

[weary oriole]

columbina got a whole ass biblically accurate angel

[junior sequoia]

hello, are the leaks gone?

[stone rampart]

About That

https://torrentfreak.com/court-discord-must-expose-genshin-impact-leaker-ubatcha-221202/

[stone rampart]

You can refer to this

[sour kiln]

channels gone but u can still post

[thorn patrol]

at the end of the new archon quest ||was it alice that spoke to us? I couldn't tell since I'm not playing in the same language I usually play in, but it sounds like stuff she'd say||

[untold fossil]

we've heard alice speak before and its nowhere near close to the voice at the end

[thorn patrol]

ah alright, thanks

[proud charm]

i found something that i never knew it existed

If you have Childe in your character, After you finish the archon quest Akasha Pulses, the Kalpa Flame Rises we all know that Scaramouche reset himself with irminsul tree and become Wanderer, But if we don't finish the archon quest Childe still mentioning about Balladeer, after finishing the archon quest the interactions Childe with Balladeer is gone in voice-over because we knew Scaramouche changing the past and deleting himself to become Wanderer, That's a cool small detail about Scaramouche deleting himself to other fatui.

[weary oriole]

At this point our likely descenders are:

Phanes/The Primordial One
The Second Who Came
Alice most likely
Traveler

[sacred dock]

the biblicaly accurate angel calalyst...

[uneven turret]

i like how scara's teaser basically predicted him getting a vision

vision appearing out of the "ashes"

[dapper stag]

Tbh honest idk why but I think it's Miko voice

[uneven turret]

definitely not, she has an extremely distinctive voice and way of speaking in jp and it wasn't the same

[hidden whale]

doesn’t sound like her at all

[weary oriole]

Scara's vision resembles his heart like the puppet and the ballerina story.

Niceu

Didn't noticed that

[lament portal]

To be honest anyone in the game mentioning Rukhadevata or Scarmouche in the story, past the newest quests, would be quite interesting to hear. Imagine some npc mention them just randomly only for the traveler to get big "wtf" moment.
Like meeting Alice for the first time in person and "Oh opsie, now you know I'm not from Tenyat. :3"

[weary oriole]

does it seem like the voice was Istaroth?

[uneven turret]

yep exactly, i think it was definitely meant to draw a parallel to the ballerina story

a "heart" that came out of the ashes

bro wants to be our friend so bad

[worldly quest]

whys childe still number 11 if theres only 10 harbingers now

[silent sail]

I literally cried while the whole story quest

Why can’t I just hug him

[uneven turret]

there is still a 6th seat its just empty now and hasn't been filled in years

[worldly quest]

oh that makes sense

[rose beacon]

When he poofs himself in irminsul every character interaction about him disappears

[rose beacon]

That logic only applies if both the traveler and said descender share knowledge that later 'changed' and are able to regurgitate said knowledge

Alice likely knows about a lot of things, but unless she's basically stalking us I doubt she knows about rukkha being deleted or scaramouche changing

[cold quail]

So.. okay... realistically, where do we all go if this server goes down?? 😦

[lusty crest]

We wait for SYP, Blank and such Discord servers to be brought back to activity or for the admins of WFP to do a backup server of this one ig

[cold quail]

cuz I like the people here! I don't want to lose contact with you all! 😢

[lusty crest]

I honestly don't think it's gonna happen. The WFP acted quick and hid all the leaks channels as soon as Uba got targeted. So as long as they lay low and don't spread too much leaks, it should be fine

[cold quail]

I hope so. 😕 I belong to no other servers any longer. And the official one -- people are just plain rude and a-holish! 😦

[lusty crest]

That's how it is when the server is too big. It attracts mean people, and tbh there's no shortage of it or daily trolls. I mostly laugh at it cause it's more pathetic than anything else, but I can see why you wouldn't wanna be on it

[cold quail]

Put it this way: They made me cry within 10 mins time when I was new to the game and went there. 😢

(literally)

[lusty crest]

I think you stumbled upon a mean group. Usually people are civilized and help you whenever you need it. It's a bad experience for sure, but I don't think it's that common

[cold quail]

They were actually taunting me! O.o

They were like calling me a liar when I said I was a new player! O.O

And I mean this was only 2 months after the game started! O.o