・genshin-spoilers

[dense tendon]

Love it

[frank wolf]

... racist

[slate agate]

That's funny considering Sumeru introduced an entire different species of pig.

[wild steeple]

You know that meme "where do you work out?" "at the library"
That's itto and alhaitham

[frank wolf]

if he wasn't 100% human, would u have hated him?

[weary oriole]

canon tbh

altho i wouldn't be surprised if al haitham does work out via personally seeking out reliable sources himself

[dense tendon]

Means i cant have babies with him

Ok im kidding

LOL

[wild steeple]

[weary oriole]

they have a pig!?

where is it

[wild steeple]

The ones with shrooms on their back?

[weary oriole]

ahhh boars

i shld rly catch the mushroom boar babies and put them in my teapot now that i think abt it

[dense tendon]

Is hutao a good person lore wise

[wild steeple]

Yes but everyone hates her lol

[weary oriole]

i don't think placing "good person" "bad person" labels on characters will help tbh

[wild steeple]

Idk one liyue character who can stand her

[weary oriole]

hu tao has good intentions, but she often disturbs people due to how inappropriate her comments about the finality of existence can be

[slate agate]

Yes. That i why I really like Genshin characters. They all have their own personality.
That said, Dottore is uber bad person

[weary oriole]

i know the reason why she does it, but tbh if my friend suddenly started talking about funeral pyres while we were eating mcdonalds i'd deadpan too

[slate agate]

Her grandpa

[dense tendon]

Then why is she likeable while many ppl dislike yae miko thats unfair

[slate agate]

Also Zhongli

[weary oriole]

bc funny prankster girl

also yae miko is one of the most popular female characters wym

[slate agate]

No one dislikes yae. Booba

[wild steeple]

It's okay, I hate hutao too

I don't discriminate

[weary oriole]

wfp user hating hu tao

[dense tendon]

No hutao and yae are my fav

Nahida in my top 3

[frank wolf]

Well she's been the only useful Archon so...

[wild steeple]

Lisa, Sara, Yanfei, Kuki, Jean, Dehya and Nahida are the only females in the whole roster that I tolerate

[frank wolf]

Venti is a drunk, Zhongli is an airhead beggar, Ei tried to kill us

[wild steeple]

Ok I guess I'm indifferent to the little ones

[weary oriole]

Lisa W

Lisa gets mischaracterized by the majority of the fandom too much

[frank wolf]

Zhongli especially should've had the most info to give us, but nah, he can't break the NDA or MHY would sue him

[slate agate]

To be fair, Venti does more than he lets on. My headcanon tho.

[weary oriole]

more like venti avoids answering our questions

Ei straight up just doesn't know anything because she wasn't present during the cataclysm. She only dealt with the fallout in her country

[dense tendon]

Only nahida is useful

[wild steeple]

For one, Venti suffers the "first nation" curse so he can't bombard the player with too much lore, second he also knows he has to let the traveler learn stuff in his own pace, as Nahida revealed in the samsara where she said if you were to know the full truth ahead you'd derail from your path

Zhongli is the same deal

[dense tendon]

True

Raiden is straight up useless bitch

[frank wolf]

Zhongli can't break his NDA...

[slate agate]

Raiden the only archon who killed a harbinger permanently.

[wild steeple]

I mean there was no indication that he couldn't tell us what he traded his gnosis for, he just said "lol find out in your travels"

[frank wolf]

I feel like... Inazuma didn't help us at all in our journey

like we could've skipped it in its entirety

[slate agate]

We got Ayaka from there. Best waifu

[frank wolf]

Fair point

[wild steeple]

It was a joint storyline with sumeru

Since the story ties to it

[dense tendon]

Ikr? We literally spent time to save that bitch raiden

[wild steeple]

It really only got full closure once we saw what happened with the gnosis

[frank wolf]

I mean couldn't we have gone to Sumeru instead of Inazuma?
Like if the Archon wants to screw over their country it's not our business

[dense tendon]

And got nothing out of it

[frank wolf]

Not to mention us going there resulted in their archon trying to kill us, and Yae giving the Gnosis to Scara

[slate agate]

No because Paimon tells us to explore the place later.

[weary oriole]

she was the one who told us to do that

[dense tendon]

Why blame yae

[wild steeple]

We couldn't save Irminsul without Nahida using the power of the electro gnosis

[frank wolf]

if we hadn't gone there, the Gnosis would've been safe

[dense tendon]

Nah gotta blame ayaka

[frank wolf]

i'm sure they would've found some way to deus ex machina that even without a 2nd gnosis

[dense tendon]

For intiiating this shit

[weary oriole]

let's stop the blame game we won't get anywhere with that

[wild steeple]

It still amuses me to this day how at first the traveler wanted none of that, constantly getting up mid-conversation and going "Nah, fuck you guys I'm out"

[weary oriole]

anyways, that's new i didn't pick up on that

[wild steeple]

And Ayaka constantly begging him to stay

[frank wolf]

That's another thing i'm thinking about... how did the previous Dendro archon expect Nahida to go and see Irminsul?

Oh, to see my memory, u'll need another Gnosis. Go on, get one

i think there's a discount at the bazaar for one

[weary oriole]

bc Nahida is a branch of Rukkhadevata, and Rukkhadevata is connected with the Irminsul

[wild steeple]

I mean aren't all the archons acting up on a script? Leading the traveler over as if they know where he has to go first?

[weary oriole]

therefore Nahida is connected with the Irminsul

[frank wolf]

Yeah, but yet Nahida needed a 2nd Gnosis to connect with Irminsul for some reason

[dense tendon]

Yea thats why its all ayaka fault that traveller wasted time

Lol

[frank wolf]

i feel like it's an unneeded plot point

[wild steeple]

Why did Venti tell you to head to Liyue next, why did Zhongli tell you to head to Inazuma next even though Sumeru is right there

[frank wolf]

I would've assumed since Liyue is the only nation connected to Mond by land?
Also, Venti mentioned Zhongli as the longest living Archon would most likely have grampa tales to tell us

Idk why Zhongli told us to go to Inazuma

[dense tendon]

Because inazuma is in bad shape lmao

[frank wolf]

The God of Wisdom would've been a better destination

[frank wolf]

That's not our problem though

[dense tendon]

Ikr i rather save nahida early

Who cares about inazuma

I blame ayaka

[wild steeple]

Hell Inazuma is closed, yet he still points towards that direction as if it's more important to go there first than any other nation

[dense tendon]

Zhongli probably didnt know kusanali was locked up by sage

[frank wolf]

not to mention Ei is now technically the youngest Archon yeah?

No way was going to be useful to us

Wait... did Ei become an Archon before or after Nahida's birth?

[wild steeple]

She became the sole ruler at the same time

[weary oriole]

nah he probably knew

[wild steeple]

Cause 500 years ago

But she and Makoto already co-ruled Inazuma for a while

[frank wolf]

Oh, the God of Wisdom is current trapped, rather than maybe going there to assess the situation, go to the Island surrounded by water and storms to get murdered

[weary oriole]

around the same time maybe? because sages found nahida after cataclysm. raiden lost makoto after the fall of khaen'riah

[weary oriole]

i don't think the archons would intervene w each other, is my speculation

[wild steeple]

They both died in the cataclysm, and Nahida was said to be born exactly after Rukkhadevata died

[dense tendon]

Ok does anyone know what happened to the sagss

[weary oriole]

yeah but cataclysm is a huge era

[dense tendon]

How. Did nahida punish them

[frank wolf]

Sent to Avidia forest to meditate for the rest of their lives

[weary oriole]

it counts the fall of khaen'riah and the aftereffects

[wild steeple]

She didn't, they punished themselves

[frank wolf]

if we didn't get knocked unconscious by Doctore, i'd have loved to stab them myself

[dense tendon]

They should really create new monster for sage in that forest that respawn every 24 hrs

[frank wolf]

Them sages gonna be mining cryptocurrency for the rest of their remaining lives

[wild steeple]

Like how they were mining dreams?

[lusty crest]

omg can't see shit

@dense tendon

better

[uneven turret]

archon isnt a race

[lusty crest]

ik

i just grouped them cause there's currently no human archon

Barbatos is a Wind Spirit
Morax is an Adepti (the first one)
Beelzebul is lightning itself
Buer is a "branch" of Rukkhadevata

[uneven turret]

zhongli is adepti ig, venti wind elemental, ei and makoto no idea, nahida looks like an elf

assuming that rukkhadevata was also an elf idk, she did have the pointy ears

[weary oriole]

rukkhadevata is a tree probably

the raiden twins are "the purest form of lightning" take that as u will

[uneven turret]

is beelzebub and baal being lightning itself actually stated anywhere in lore or is that just a theory?

[weary oriole]

it's stated

[lusty crest]

it was stated but i forgot where

[weary oriole]

ill search

[elfin hedge]

What why should expect about lore in the next updates?

[lusty crest]

how scaramouche acquired a vision in 3.3 and also an interlude quest where he's in and has a part

[elfin hedge]

I mean Future archon quests, 3.4 and 3.6 expansión maps, meet dain again...

I know already about 3.3

[lusty crest]

next map expansion should be in 3.4 and it will be the sandstorm on the west of the desert. You can already see it from the desert and you can see that there's a glowing thing in it

it's theorized to be either the last ruin golem Zandik mentioned or a Celestial Nail

as for the archon quests, we should get another interlude in 3.6 iirc along the Dendro Dragon weekly boss

could be related to the dendro dragon sovereign

[tawdry blade]

Who?

[tawdry blade]

Both

[idle arch]

she didn't need 2 she just needed a gnosis

the dendro one was just being used to power the akasha

[tawdry blade]

I hate when mhy did that, always the "lost conscious" excuse

[idle arch]

I mean its also strongly implied that doctore would have kicked our asses lmao

[tawdry blade]

He was with nahida ,he wouldn't

If you meant alone then sure but I doubt we will meet him again

Until Snezhaya or something

[idle arch]

nahida directly stated that he was stronger than her even if she had her gnosis

[tawdry blade]

Yes and she can still support traveler

Its a 2v1

[idle arch]

the two of them were able to defeat scaramouche who barely reached the level of an archon with prior preparation via the neo akasha

I dont think they wouldve been able to beat doctore whos stronger than an archon

[lusty crest]

lmao you're def coping if you think current traveler and nahida would beat dottore

[tawdry blade]

How is that coping

[idle arch]

scaramouche also happened to be cocky and fell into nahida's dream trap, Doctore is fully aware of Nahida's abilities so I dont think he would be suspectible to her trick

[lusty crest]

They had some hard time beating the #6 (and he wasn't even considered a complete god yet) and you want them to beat the #2 with his whole army and intellect of 530 000 (numbers made up but to say that he's very knowledgable to the point that he knew things nahida didn't)

Dottore isn't considered archon lvl for nothing

[idle arch]

well too be fair that knowledge was obtained from scaramouche from 1.1

[lusty crest]

there's also different tiers for archons

scara was stronger than nahida, yet ei would mop the floor with him

you can't generalize that term

[idle arch]

well scara was stronger than nahida with the gnosis and the god machine thing he was plugged into

[lusty crest]

Pierro was already aware of it and that's why he sent scara. It's safe to assume dottore knew too

[idle arch]

his strength vs ei is debatable though I dont think she wouldve given up the gnosis if it was stronger than her

[tawdry blade]

Nahida is not even fully god of wisdom,how do we expect her to know everything

[lusty crest]

I don't, it just shows that Dottore could beat both and probably quite easily

[idle arch]

she is fully the god of wisdom at that point, she doesn't know because she only knows what the Irmusil knows

[tawdry blade]

And a fight need strategy obv

[tawdry blade]

Didn't she like, check the Irminsul after talk with dottore

[lusty crest]

I don't wanna talk too much powerscale cause the server doesn't like it, which is understandble, but at this point it's not that hard to see that Dottore surpassed both Nahida and current Traveler combined. Wether that's the case or not after destroying his clones is smth else and we lack data

[idle arch]

she did a search of it for the traveller's sibling after

do the clones actually provide a direct power boost to him? it seems like he just uses them for more breadth

for research

[tawdry blade]

I don't think so,his clone probably have the same ability as him,also to experience life in different age

I mean yeah Dottore is stronger ,but strength is not everything, traveler would have died in raiden fight before the powerup if traveler is not that durable. And traveler has different element but even then,for plot reason mhy gonna pull out the same shit like they did during Katherine scene "oh no can't use electro to speed up)

Anyway,scara splash art doesn't give god vibe , unexpected

[lusty crest]

ig they can be used as an army. plus the more the brain the more powerful you are ig

[lusty crest]

which raiden fight ?

[tawdry blade]

2nd,the training definitely help a little though

[elfin hedge]

I think that from the leaked server data we might get another Traveler Archon Quest there

[tawdry blade]

Ye reunion quest

[lusty crest]

We actually never fought the Shogun. Only Ei. Twice. And the second time, Yae protected us with the Omamori

[elfin hedge]

And also we will have in 3.4 a new Desert Snake boss

[tawdry blade]

Ruin serpent moment

[lusty crest]

normal boss ?

[elfin hedge]

Not ruin i guess

[elfin hedge]

Yrp

[tawdry blade]

Ruin Serpent and Sandworm in the same abyss

[lusty crest]

oh ok

sandworm

[elfin hedge]

Yep

[tawdry blade]

Im calling it

[lusty crest]

if he plunges when i do my burst i ain't doing the abyss i swear

[tawdry blade]

I see,still impressive to dodge those attack

[elfin hedge]

What if we ask Dain about the descenders, and our sister?

[tawdry blade]

Mhy gonna pull "you need anemo to make the sandworm go up" force us to use anemo character

[tawdry blade]

Maybe

Why didn't traveler ask nahida about dain past

[elfin hedge]

She cant, Nahida said that someone was manipulating the Sisters destiny by the end of her journey and thats why she cant see what happened to her at he end of the journey, and she made the journey with Dain so...

[lusty crest]

dain never talked about the pre archon war history so it's assumed he isn't aware of it. So he shouldn't know the Primordial One and the descender stuff

[tawdry blade]

But his past is still there

Atleast when he was born and stuff

[elfin hedge]

The traveler doesnt care about dain xD

[lusty crest]

more like they don't wanna pry into his secrets

[tawdry blade]

Classic move

[elfin hedge]

He should be aware, in Enka is already know that they shared knowledge with Khaen'riah and that some people of Khaen'riah stole some books, if the people of Enkanomiya knew about the Primordial one, the people of Khaen'riah should know it too

[lusty crest]

where is it stated that Kaenri'ah and Enkanomiya are related ?

[elfin hedge]

There are info in Enkanomiya about some people of Khaen'riah stole some books

I think a ghost said that

[lusty crest]

oh ok

could explain why there's ruin guards there too

[tired ice]

to ruin

[lusty crest]

crazy

[slate agate]

Nahida isn't physically strong. Which is why she relied on traveler to do the heavy lifting. Which is why Dottore is stronger than Nahida.

[idle arch]

yeah I know

[slate agate]

There's no way Scara can beat Ei. Just look at what Ei can do. She'd mop the floor with him without even trying.

Don't forget that Ei was fighting the Shogun for almost an eternity in constant combat. No resting. Meanwhile Scara got rekt by a green Paimon.

[echo plaza]

Why did alhaitam lie to traveller on getting the capsule 😩

|| catching up so fast in the story is info overload||

[lusty crest]

there's no need to spoiler things here

[echo plaza]

Oki

I still don't get it tho

[lusty crest]

are you referring to when he used the divine capsule ?

[echo plaza]

When he get the divine capsule with the leader

[lusty crest]

he said it to himself but he wanted to check it first iirc

[vivid nacelle]

ooh, she also never use a gnosis to fight

[lusty crest]

A Gnosis doesn't give you a power-up, it's just to connect you to Celestia

[vivid nacelle]

I thought it was a battery or something

[lusty crest]

battery for Scaramouche's mech, yes

but it doesn't give him the power

[vivid nacelle]

lmao yes, I thought it's to enhance power

[lusty crest]

nor does any gnosis give power to its Archon

[vivid nacelle]

so it's some king of walkie talkie

kind*

[lusty crest]

you could say that

but

it connects Celesita to the Archons, not the opposite

Basically Celestia uses the Gnoses to watch over Teyvat

like a cctv cam

[steel eagle]

Gnoses are a representation or form of "control" that Celestia has over Teyvat, yeah, Nahida believes that if she were to destroy one, it would awaken Celestia from its dormancy because doing so would alert them to a "threat" in regards to their hold on Teyvat

[slate agate]

Nahida speculated 😂

[steel eagle]

it was good enough to get Dottore to shut up so big W for Nahida

[weary oriole]

Do they fatui have the dendro gnosis yet?

[mystic coyote]

yes

[weary oriole]

How

[mystic coyote]

nahida exchanged it for knowledge about the fake sky and maybe some other knowledge

[weary oriole]

She gave that for electro

[mystic coyote]

no electro was for dottore destroying his segments

[weary oriole]

Omg

But I remember she called him greedy when he asked about it

[mystic coyote]

it goes electro for destroying clones -> he asks for dendro -> she calls him greedy -> he says that this is a different transaction -> exchanges dendro for knowledge

[weary oriole]

Omg

Pain

God of wisdom exchanging her gnosis for knowledge

[tawdry blade]

Should have ask scara

Fucking dumb plot

Atleast natlan is hope

[lusty crest]

natlan is non existent

[tawdry blade]

Deadge

[lusty crest]

there's like 3 mentions of Natlan in-game

it really is dead

[slate agate]

Wisdom and knowledge are two different things lol

[echo plaza]

was this always muted i dont hear paimon or zhonglis voice

[uneven turret]

yes

the jp va streamed it and voiced zhongli's dialogue for this scene at least but yeah it was always unvoiced

[tardy bay]

wait how do u blur

her

hel

p

oh i can say what i want

i think they forgot to erase her name in this quest

LOL

cuz i finished sumeru

[lusty crest]

a one man argument

[lusty crest]

it's possible that they forgot to change some. after all the aranyaka quest is long

[tardy bay]

i liked finding that

[teal snow]

Aranara aren’t humans so

[dry crown]

but they’re from teyvat

[paper furnace]

hi! im asking this in the spoiler room bc ik ppl wanna be surprised but does anyone have like a top down view of scaras domain? like a pic?

[slate agate]

Why?

[paper furnace]

so i can draw it

[slate agate]

Sry fam

No have it

[thorny dagger]

It relieves me that traveler's gaslight gatekeep girlboss attempt on setaria does more good than harm lmao

[slate agate]

Traveler cant do harm because plot armor lol

[thorny dagger]

True true

[modest frigate]

Does the Eremites already know that their King and Dendro Archon is actually in a good term?

[hybrid yew]

About the Eremites

We all know Dehya is gonna playable some time or another

so we will be able to use the Eremite to destroy the Eremites

Like

[tawdry blade]

Not yet,nahida did said she will try to help out the Eremite

[hybrid yew]

We already got it with Childe and such with the Fatui

But like

[tawdry blade]

But I think some of them do

[hybrid yew]

Childe and the Fatui's thing seems more like "sure, I can beat up fellow Fatui, it's all for the mission after all"

[old lodge]

i think rahman alrdy told his men , at least

[modest frigate]

Is this Rahman guy is the same guy who got enlighten during the desert quest??

[hybrid yew]

But Dehya getting used on other Eremites...

[old lodge]

yeah he's the leader

[tawdry blade]

Ye,but there is more Eremite group I believe?

[modest frigate]

The squad 30 or whatever it is called. They're eremites too?

[tawdry blade]

Like the one in golden slumber quest

[old lodge]

corps of thirty or something , yeah they are but they just stay in city now

[slate agate]

Yes they know

[weary oriole]

bois who are the strongest playable characters lorewise ?

archons aside

and mc

[hallow path]

Amber

Just kidding, but it would be somewhere between albedo, shenhe, xiao

Ningguang could be up there I think

[mystic coyote]

pretty much any of the harbingers

[hallow path]

playable characters

[mystic coyote]

ah my bad

[weary oriole]

i seem to forgot about it but did traveler beat raiden in a 1v1 ?

[hallow path]

Childe IMO is on par with seasoned fighters like diluc

[weary oriole]

we only got childe for the harbinger

is ningu really strong ?

[mystic coyote]

yae could be strong since she's a kitsune

[hallow path]

There's not really any proper scaling for her, but her jade chamber cutscenes leave that up to debate

[weary oriole]

how bout itto ? is his raw strength comparable to shenhe ?

[hallow path]

sara capped him so might as well be very powerful too

[weary oriole]

ohh that was cannon

i think i missed that one tho, where was it mentioned ? did they actually fight ?

[hallow path]

Voice lines

I don't remember which, though lol

[weary oriole]

or was it the part where they got ittos vision ? the dude was takin a piss and they caught him off guard 🤔

[old lodge]

probs xiao

[slate agate]

Headcanon, raiden never did 1v1 traveler seriously.

If she wasn't holding back, she'd have split the island in two. She has done so before lol.

[late egret]

;-;

[lusty crest]

Rahman knows it, cause he was with us back in Act 4 and he probably told his group, so it's safe to assume that some do. As for the rest (the left Red Eremites and the Corps of Thirty) it's not specified so probably not

[lusty crest]

If you're talking about the Raiden Shogun, Traveler never fought it. If you're talking about Ei (or Beelzebul whatever you wanna call her), Traveler fought her twice. They got clapped without much effort the first time. As for the second time, Traveler beat Ei thanks to the ambitions of the Vision holders who's Visison has been taken from them and Yae's omamori. Ei also stopped fighting cause she realized her mistakes when Yae pointed it out in the Plane of Euthymia

[lusty crest]

Some of them are tricky to power scale cause we lack data on their power but i can do a list per region of the top fighters (it's not ordered btw) :

Mondstadt : Diluc/Kaeya/Lisa/Klee/Albedo (not sure about Jean and Eula)
Liyue : Ningguang (if considered to be with the Jade Chamber)/Beidou/Qiqi/Ganyu/Xiao/Shenhe
Inazuma : Yae Miko (you could add Kazuha but also not sure)
Sumeru : Candace/Cyno/Wanderer (we don't have any info about Layla and Faruzan but i doubt that they're strong)
Snezhnaya : Tartaglia

[weary oriole]

i mean if we factor out their visions which chars are still OP lorewise ?

[lusty crest]

without using a vision ?

[weary oriole]

yeah, chars like xiao, shenhe, they still OP if we factor out their vision right ?

the bois in sumeru are pretty ordinary compared to the chars in liyue

[lusty crest]

it depends on your standard for strong

[weary oriole]

like, who can stand toe to toe with the top fatui's

[lusty crest]

oh

[lusty crest]

the top 3?

[weary oriole]

or top 5

[lusty crest]

top 3 is probably none

[weary oriole]

oh

[lusty crest]

If we consider Capitano as #4, it's still unknown

he's considered the strongest human of Teyvat

[weary oriole]

what if chars in genshin overall

varka doesnt have a vision right ?

[lusty crest]

as for Pulcinella, if we take it that he got his #5 through sheer diplomacy, then maybe the top ones like Xiao or Yae

[lusty crest]

he does

unknown vision but he does

Varka said that he could beat Capitano in a 1v1 fight if he were to fight him, but he said it while laughing so it's assumed that he was joking. Nevertheless, Childe holds respect for both fighters as he sees them as very strong opponents

[slate agate]

Xiangling. Her pet used to be a god.

[slate agate]

Wanderer is technically from Inazuma.

[lusty crest]

yeah but you get the thing

but technically yes, wanderer is from inazuma

[slate agate]

I'm still gonna have to disagree with your list. Diluc and Kaeya yes. Albedo maybe. Eula and Jean should be a solid yes. I dont know how strong Lisa is, I only know she's smart. And I think Klee is given more credit than she deserves.

For Inazuma, you missed Gorou. Dude is literally a general that fought a war at the front lines. Sara should be included too. And Ayato single handedly took out the assassins sent to take him out.

Also Sayu supposedly part of black ops force too.

For Sumeru, Dehya is a pretty famous merc. And if Cyno made the list, Alhaitham should be there too. He fought Cyno equally.

[lusty crest]

i just included playable characters as that was what Jimmy asked for at first, but i agree with Dehya and Al-Haitham being strong

[lusty crest]

Klee literally reshaped a moutain

[slate agate]

Klee used bombs. Anyone could reshape mountains with bombs. If you gave bombs to Glory, she'd reshape mountains too

[lusty crest]

Bombs that she did herself. She's the one who made them that powerful and fighting isn't all about physical power

Klee is highly intelligent

afaik Glory can't make bombs

[slate agate]

If that's the case, then Kokomi and Kuki would also make the list.

[lusty crest]

why

[slate agate]

Kokomi moved her people herself.

Kuki says the word and the itto gang would beat you up

[lusty crest]

i'm talking about 1v1 situations. I also think that's what Jimmy was asking for, tho they didn't say it precisely

sure kokomi is a great strategist, but what could she do on her own against a kitsune for example

[slate agate]

That's pretty unfair that you'd give Klee all the time for prep work, but not anyone else

[lusty crest]

i would

prep time, but you're still on your own

[slate agate]

You think a genius like Kokomi would just do no prep work if she had to fight the Kitsune alone?

[lusty crest]

no, i think she would, but i highly doubt it could work that's all

kokomi is a war strategist, not a fighter. her role is to move troops accordingly and efficiently to ensure victory. if you add all the man power of an army then yeah, but on her own, i don't think it would end up in her favor

[slate agate]

Kokomi so smart that she made manuals for the average joe in her army to handle any situations, including fighting the Shogun's army.

If the average joe can handle the Shogun's army, I dont see how she'd be any lacking.

[lusty crest]

hmmm

fair point

[slate agate]

Also Klee isn't fire proof.

[lusty crest]

i highly doubt she would burn herself lol

it never happened before so why should it now

[slate agate]

She does take burning damage lol

[lusty crest]

well, so does every other playable character

[slate agate]

She has the arm strength of a child. How strong do you think her bombs can be if she can only throw so far without hurting herself?

[lusty crest]

good question, tho like i said she's all around bombs and did it for some time without having any serious injury afaik so i don't see why it should change

[tawdry blade]

Technically she need alot of bomb to do it and make those take resources with some of her vision power on it. But she definitely strong but in combat she would lose to someone that is fast

Though I don't know which and where the the tier list/context so it might be irrelevant

[lusty crest]

i purposely said earlier that i would only list the top of each nation, but i didn't wanna do a tier list cause powerscale never gets anywhere, but yeah she would lose to a fast opponent

[lusty crest]

fr

[frank wolf]

Only thing wrong about that is Zhongli. He does know and remember, but he's under MHY's NDA, and we know how vindictive they can be when someone breaks it

[tawdry blade]

He actually forgot some

But he still remember Khaenri'ah

He lost some of his memory that why he want someone to share his memory and why he always listen to his tale

[slate agate]

Do you know that Nahida winks every time she finish her normal attack chain?

SHO KUUTE!!

[lusty crest]

In the beta at first she would also stick her tongue out when she would do it, but they deleted it

[tired ice]

do you know that nahida is dendro 🤯 🤯

[weary oriole]

[wild steeple]

so rukkhadevata sharing the same model with nahida explains the issue with the model of the sumeru statue of the seven

since it's supposed to predate nahida, but it looked exactly like her

[slate agate]

Is this sarcasm?

[dry sky]

What tree is dottore burning at the end of the teyvat chapter?

[slate agate]

Supposedly the Irminsul

[hallow path]

do you know that you can jump as nahida in genshin

[tired ice]

no im trying to inform them

[tawdry blade]

If it was real,must be the worst parent ever,and the dad would be dead if it was me or leave the house/report(if I can't handle it anymore obviously)

[tawdry blade]

That will never happens consider that the Irminsul is under nahida control,she can kick people out if she want,like how we got kick because we are not nahida and rukka want to see nahida and inform her not traveler

Idk why people want that to happen

Even so,burn it is not a good move at all and I doubt Tsarita agree with that action

[wild steeple]

Pretty sure it'd bring catastrophic events

Everything is intertwined with Irminsul, it'd be like stopping the Earth's dynamo effect to stop spinning

[tawdry blade]

Ye game would end if that happens, people disappointed with it need to understand the lore instead of "haha burn big tree so cool best scene ever!!!"

[wild steeple]

Smh, do they even play the same game

[tawdry blade]

Elden ring player be like

[tired ice]

it is very real I do not lie I only tell the truth

[tawdry blade]

Fight back

[hallow path]

I'm really disappointed they set it all up in the harbinger teaser if that's the case tbh

So dottore burning a whole ass tree never happened?!?? Mickey mouse clubhouse

It's a red herring

[wild steeple]

Irminsul isn't the only big tree that can be burned

Remember that every nation has one big tree

The tree in Windrise, the tree in Azhdaha's tomb, and the great Sakura tree

The only big tree I can think of in Sumeru is the one in the city itself

[mystic coyote]

there's also the divine tree that sumeru city sits on

[wild steeple]

It'd be pretty horrible if that tree burns since the Akademiya sits atop it, but it wouldn't be world-dooming at least

But also, in the teaser it was one of the dottore segments talking about the prime dottore

Meaning it was happening at the time

Dottore already killed all the segments

So if it had happened, it should've already happened

[mystic coyote]

maybe the burning tree was metaphorical

nahida does love her metaphors after all

maybe dottore helping build the scara mech to replace nahida was him burning the metaphorical divine tree

experiment in blasphemy, and he explicitly calls the entire mech building process an experiment

[hallow path]

Oh yeah that's what I thought too

To think about it, the tree looks like it's somewhere else that isn't where irminsul is

[hallow path]

It was implied the illusion was cast towards collei's dream in the teaser, even though she's not involved at all with the sumeru archon quest

Or

She did but played a small role

[rugged chasm]

if mc still remember greater rukkha, doesn't this mean the tree is still contaminated by forbidden knowledge?

or descender is excluded

[wild steeple]

Since the tree has no knowledge on the traveler then it means he can't spread his forbidden knowledge onto the tree

It would be different if the abyss twin knew though

[fresh kernel]

What if abyss twin is just an impostor

After all we did see our twin get minecraftized

[weary oriole]

i think that the burning tree hasn't happened yet personally. collei dreamed of that, but people of sumeru cannot dream until the recent archon quest

so collei dreaming of the burning tree happens after the newest archon quest

meaning dottore hasn't burned any tree... yet

"Truth Amongst the Pages of Purana" chapter title (travail trailer) also has yet to be used

[hallow path]

oh god

I just fucking realized that lmao

[wild steeple]

I forgor about the truth among the pages of purana

[hallow path]

so the real storyline hasnt happened yet

[empty kettle]

Dendro gnosis is gone I don’t think we will revisit irminsol again soon

[wild steeple]

Well I mean, dottore has it

[empty kettle]

In the dream the doctor was asked where his younger prostheses Is, he answered he is busy in a experiment in blasphemy. That experiment is over now

[wild steeple]

The old dottore is also gone

[teal snow]

lmaooo deadge

and hoyo acknowledging the traveler being quiet

and not talkative

[weary oriole]

yeah, i said collei's dream happens after the newest archon quest, not that it happens right after

plus the winter's night lazzo is called an interlude teaser, so maybe burning tree happens in a future interlude chapter

[hallow path]

Collei is gonna have a major role in the story (hopefully)

[empty kettle]

After the newest quest?

[weary oriole]

let me rephrase it then. "some unknown time after act 5 of the sumeru archon quests"

[hallow path]

Also we have never seen the balladeer meet other harbingers

something that I realized lol

Speaking of which though

I'm really confused by the time period of Signora's funeral

I think they said something along the lines of "scara still has gnosis" which probably means that the entire meeting happened during the sumeru archon quests, while dottore burning the tree takes place a long time after that

[weary oriole]

columbina also asks "where's the segment on the prime of his life then?" dottore answers "busy doing a little experiment in blasphemy"

we know the dottore who made the deal is the omega build, and we also don't know if the omega build is "the segment on the prime of his life"

experiment on blasphemy doesn't necessarily have to mean "creating a god" either. i'd say burning a tree that suspiciously looks like the irminsul is pretty blasphemous too.

dottore's segments being destroyed also doesn't mean he can't make new ways to "have eyes in the dimension of time" his deal with nahida didn't include "dottore can't make new segments/clones even after this deal is done"

[finite finch]

(what of scaramouche and the gnosis from inazuma)

[hallow path]

Eyes in the dimension of time...?

[weary oriole]

tbh some timelines we thought we confident in got a little muddy after act 5 😭 esp nahida's comments abt the abyss sibling

[weary oriole]

that's what he calls it when he made the deal w nahida

[hallow path]

This is becoming kingdom hearts

[weary oriole]

hold on let me find my screenshot

dottore's response to nahida laying out the deal^

honestly i'd believe it if dottore made his segments through quantum mechanics. they use "segments" and not "clones" after all

[hallow path]

This is becoming kingdom hearts

[weary oriole]

do u know enka lore?

[hallow path]

yeah

I have no fucking idea what I just read from there lmfao

This is like

Something you get to read from history books

It's even worthy of a discovery channel show on its own tbh

[slate agate]

Bruh. I wish they'd give us the option to swap between versions for the in game lore. Cuz when Nahida yeeted Rukk from Teyvat history, all our books and in game reference to Rukkha changed too

[old lodge]

imo its better like this

[slate agate]

But I didnt finish reading all the books 😭

[tawdry blade]

Not people thinking the tree will be burn

[stone barn]

Is there any info on the comet nahida saw at the end of the archon quest?

[tawdry blade]

Probably just rukka remnant

[stone barn]

Oh ok

I thought it could have been a descender

[tawdry blade]

They were in a dream,so it wouldn't make sense

[stone barn]

But yeah it being rukka makes more sense

[tawdry blade]

He can create more clone but only when he age up. So he can't just clone his 20 y/o body again. It take resources and time so by the time we meet him again he probably only have like 5 clones

The tree being burn is unlikely,nahida is under control and can kick his consious out

[weary oriole]

and where did u get information that he can only make segments when he "ages up"?

[tawdry blade]

He make a segment of himself when he age up sort of

Technically he can make one at the same age

But if he want to experience life then

[weary oriole]

dottore only tells us that making segments takes a lot of resources. he never tells us the requirements of making one

therefore the argument that he can only make one when he ages is false

[weary oriole]

well, we don't even know if the tree being burnt actually is irminsul. it can be any tree really

it only looks like irminsul, but we don't rly know for sure

[tawdry blade]

The tree look thin compare to the Irminsul, probably not Irminsul

But there no more region that related to "grass" so idk

Forest part seem small,hope they expand it more

[weary oriole]

leaks say desert area is only 30% released so

[weary oriole]

well, there's another Pillar that same like in the Dragonspine and Chasm

maybe the leakers wanted to say that

[wild steeple]

hmm yes, totally irminsul, trust

[empty kettle]

There will be a crater in desert

[tawdry blade]

Yes,the tornado

Inazuma forgotten 💀

[empty kettle]

Where is the pillar in inazuma?

[tawdry blade]

Don't exist

Maybe dark sea? If we ever get there

Inazuma is the closest to the dark sea so

[empty kettle]

The story writer left during inazuma development so it may be possible they left out that intentionally

[broken sluice]

well Irminsul isnt just a singular tree in the physical world

[tawdry blade]

Since the voice disappear near the status of the 7 after finished the archon quest they must have connection,and the abyss have one of the status right now, pretty suspicious

[hollow wasp]

what happens in nahida story quest

[primal fable]

only 30%?!

[weary oriole]

i mean, i might be wrong, but im pretty sure it's that number. u can check w genshin leaks

[tawdry blade]

Sumeru rn is 69% complete

Just need those 2 location

[wild steeple]

can reach up to 72% rn

[old lodge]

im at 73 pretty sure you can get 74

[slate agate]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[weary oriole]

so basically it's actually there is still ~30% left of sumeru to be released

thanks

Genshin map is bigger than elden ring

[broken sluice]

69% = when you 100% all subregions, ~72-73% for a full sweep. because 100% of a subregion still has extra stuff to find

[weary oriole]

never played elden ring. how big is it 🤔

[tawdry blade]

Search it up Google

[limber ice]

Funny number

[slate agate]

Lisa's birthday is not funny.

😠

[limber ice]

Cry about it

[tawdry blade]

Smile about it 😁👍

[glass jay]

Xiao
Shenhe
Ganyu
Scaramouche
Yae Miko
Childe

[wild steeple]

Excluding the archons?

[weary oriole]

Maybe?

Dottore Has The Same Power as Archon (Lore)

first 3 rank Fatui halbringer has the same power as Archon

Traveller also the strongest character that we're using it (Based by the Lore)

[clever gull]

Who is Tulaytullah bruh

[empty kettle]

Lore will drop with the weapon description

[uneven turret]

agree with this list, i might add ning too, she always seems OP as fuck in cutscenes

[glass jay]

If you include her with the Jade Chamber then sure

[peak tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/dropping-joshua-weissman-put-it-down-let-it-fall-drop-it-in-gif-18004934

she b droppin it like

[slate agate]

Why is Tabibito not in this list?

[primal fable]

who is tabito

[slate agate]

How do you not know Tabibito???

[primal fable]

I just don't, who is tabu

[slate agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzvXdVgm8w

[primal fable]

the traveler?

but why tabito?

is that nickname or?

[slate agate]

Tabibito is literally "traveler" in Japanese lol

[primal fable]

lol sorry so Japanese is the only language in world rn I see that's why I don't know

[slate agate]

I should have named my nick Tabibito.

Then the voicelines all make sense lol

[glass jay]

Because he said no Archons or MC

[weary oriole]

What About Korean?

I didn't even know The Traveller's Called in Korean

since i'm using Korean VA

[slate agate]

I dislike Korean. Its not as nice as Japanese. But I'm probably bias

[weary oriole]

Well, i don't like japanese, cuz a lot of moans

beside that, korean nahida's VA makes me got a heart attack

[weary oriole]

well, they are the same name in my language tho

[slate agate]

You should check Dori's mora song in japanese

Its uber funny

[weary oriole]

I know

but i don't like the type of that song

i'm prefer a song like Letter of Ajax, Rex incognito

Every nation song, i like it. especially Sumeru nation and Inazuma Nation

[uneven turret]

i think the moaning in jp is overstated, its really only certain characters that make questionable noises, the rest are fine

i barely notice it anymore

[hollow wasp]

i just realized something

What if you finish the archon quest firsy before the woodland encounter

are they affected too by the irminsul forgetting rukaka

[wild steeple]

yes

[tawdry blade]

Even the forest WON'T remember

[hollow wasp]

Man

😔

shouldve done it before the archon quest huh

[weary oriole]

Hmm

[hallow path]

genshin impact: no way home

[dire arch]

yall have u done the sumeru quest? yknow when it puts u into "story mode"?If i leave the game will my progress save or no?

[weary oriole]

Wdym story mode

[azure lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/896141267786932285/1040361001461231707/Genshin_3.2_Deleted_Cutscene720P_HD-2.mp4

[shrewd pilot]

Are we going to have an archon quest in 3.3 or a story quest??

[weary oriole]

Well.... Why I Got Her (Also Her Korean VA Feels Like....)

How about wanderer? is like why nahida is so care to the Wanderer?

not gonna lie, raiden didn't event care too much about Scaramouche

[wild steeple]

she can read minds so, she probably saw a lot of pain in scara's memories and felt sympathy

even Ei admits that Kusanali is a gentle god

The fact that she barely punished the sages speaks for itself

[uneven turret]

there are some parallels between scara and nahida. both were cast aside by people who were supposed to take care of them. scara was discarded for being too fragile/weak, nahida was discarded for not being as wise as they wanted her to be. plus she probably feels sympathy for him just bc she's a kind and gentle god and she can sense the amount of pain and turmoil inside of him.

[tawdry blade]

The event plot is legit pokemon

[weary oriole]

ikr, i love it tho

[tawdry blade]

Ye

[broken sluice]

curious, and will reverse-engineer

[uneven turret]

buffmon

[weary oriole]

Because nahida is by far the most caring n kind archon

[uneven turret]

i wouldn't say by far when venti exists but i won't argue with a nahida pfp

i do think venti is very kind though, we saw proof of this just recently in the last mondstadt event

plus him helping fake stanley in his story quest etc

[hallow path]

tbf venti and zhongli are really nice people, though I dont really remember what zhongli was up to in the archon war lol

[ashen canyon]

I wonder what's the story of King Deshret and how he died now because his whole story revolves around "forbidden knowledge" which greater lord rhuk wanted everyone to forget

[weary oriole]

[little quiver]

does no one refer to nahida as lesser lord after we erase greater lord?

[weary oriole]

No i don’t think so

Since saying lesser lord assumes there was a greater lord

[hollow marsh]

I think that yes they do, I can’t remember when but I thought « why call her lesser lord when there is no greater lord ? »

[little quiver]

yeah dottore refers to her as lesser lord so i was confused for a moment lol but then tigh calls her this as well so i guess she is referred to as lesser

[stable glen]

it's most likely a localization thing. most other languages use the "great" and "little" distinction. so sumeru ppl probably use "lesser lord" cuz she smol

[lusty crest]

they do but it's an english localization thing

[timber edge]

is this a reference to how we only picked number four out of something?

[stable glen]

no, it's so it can be included in voice lines for the entire event. bongo-head is our canon main

[timber edge]

oh! thank you!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?! YAE MIKO?!

[weary oriole]

Waiting tartaglia to appear there

[tawdry blade]

Anemo fungi pyro spinning fungi and cryo is a OP combo ngl

Fungi slave

I wonder what the host is planning

[weary oriole]

i like doing anemo + cryo then electro buffs pyro atk

huge melt dmg

a bit risky without hydro or dendro but it works

i might try dendro + pyro --> hydro + cryo

actually no burgeon into melt sounds more fun

[tawdry blade]

For real,1 rotation is enough to kill the first wave (story version)

[echo plaza]

[slate agate]

Gotta trick your friends to trick your enemies

[echo plaza]

that is true

[weary oriole]

i feel the Power Of Anemo Fungi

seems like Venti, but Fungi

[fast nymph]

The callout…

[gleaming sinew]

https://youtu.be/h43WasOW6Fw

[tawdry blade]

Should have been "why you worm should bow before me"

[ashen canyon]

I'm thinking, if paimon's the long rumored unknown god turned into a kid nahida style but the reason for that being unknown, then why would she just join the traveller for some reason instead of finding a way to restore her "memories" in her own way considering she has the strength to do it(or even too much strength), like rhuk just turned into nahida but her strength is still the same but minus the wisdom and memories

Knowing with nahida being born from the purest branch, I might also theorized that paimon might be the same thing, but from istaroth considering paimon can also stop time via the menu

[slate agate]

I dont think Nahida has the same strength as Rukkha. Headcanon, memories are like fuel. Nahida doesn't have as much fuel to burn for bigger godly powers compared to Rukkha.

[clever gull]

💀

[gritty current]

buffmon

jeje

[ashen canyon]

No one beats this

👽

[slate agate]

Lmao Mihoyo calling out mangas like one piece

[tawdry blade]

Never read the manga but can confirm it true

[slate agate]

Yooo. This bunch of dodgy people behind the stage lol

[wild steeple]

Gj, getting that world quest is pretty rare

[peak badge]

shenhe main be like

[slate agate]

Yea. Gotta do 3 other commissions multiple times

[slate agate]

Spoiler alert, he doesn't have an all cyro fungi team.

[weary oriole]

How to trigger it? well

do inazuma daily quest

[slate agate]

You gotta get gourmet supremos cook off twice, foodie quiz once, and extreme cookery twice, and where did the ingredients go after that.

[wild steeple]

Yep, and the last one has to be done after 3.0 or 3.1, it won't count if you got it before that

Which is really annoying since I had no reason to come back to doing dailies in inazuma before that

Luckily it only took me a week after setting my dailies back in inazuma to get it

[slate agate]

The wiki says the last one has to be done after you completed the rest. Not sure if you can do the last one earlier for it to count.

[weary oriole]

Zhongli's Burst Is Hard To Crit....

[wild steeple]

I had done that daily several times before switching to mondstadt, in fact I'm pretty sure it was the last daily I did before the switch, but this was before 3.0 so it didn't count

I know for a fact because I had gotten all 3 of the gourmet related achievements months before I had switched to mondstadt

And the "where did the ingredients go?" wasn't a rare daily at all to get

[slate agate]

I know what you are saying. I'm just not sure if it can be any order, or do you have to do it again AFTER you do the previous 5 random commissions and get the respective achievements.

[wild steeple]

I know you have to get the ingredients daily last, I'm just saying I did get it last multiple times, it's just that genshin will only start taking that into account after sumeru, so you're forced to return to inazuma no matter what

You can't have the world quest unlocked at the start of 3.1 is what I'm saying

[slate agate]

Petition to replace Paimon with Bongo-Head. We exploring the desert and this is more important

[empty kettle]

Nice to see a fellow mobile player

[weary oriole]

Idk how to put spoilers on image

[tawdry blade]

Click on the image before you post

And click spoiler

[weary oriole]

Hydro Archon (Focalors)

Thanks

[hybrid yew]

Yo uhh

so all the medals and stuff from the thing just ended up being enough for Dori here, but then there's all those goodies in the shop including the Crown

[abstract jay]

yeah you'll get enough by the end of the event to max out the shop and get dori

[hybrid yew]

"And" or "or"...?

[ashen fable]

and

theres always enough coins to get everything

[hybrid yew]

Not enough medals tho

Oof, shouldn't have cleared out medal shop first... eh, I already got Dori anyways

Overall, event was too easy, there should be events where we can get moar stuffs which are optional

Or just adjust the numbers so you CAN get everything

[ashen fable]

it should still be possible to get dori, theres not been an event where you cant get absolutely everything

theres prolly still more things that come out in a few days

[stable glen]

^ this. even if you started the event on the last day, there's no penalty for missing any days. you will have exactly enough to get everything.

[weary oriole]

The events not finished bruh

[hybrid yew]

Wha?

Hmm

[weary oriole]

You can still get Dori later

I haven’t played the event but I assume there’s more parts of it coming out within the next few days

There always is

[hybrid yew]

I hope y'all right

Coz' the event seems to be all checkmarks already for me

Wait

. . .

. . .

C1 Dori, here we go then

[weary oriole]

Well, at least I was kind of right

[hybrid yew]

Aight

[tawdry blade]

Joke aside,only skip quest that I already done(alt) or know

[silver spade]

Do you guys think dainsleif would say

<<Those who survive a long time on the battlefield start to think they're invincible. I bet you do too, Traveler.>>

[green current]

Yes

[pulsar zealot]

I just love the faces they make

[hallow path]

"I bet you do too" is drastically different wording from the first part of the sentence imo

It's more like "I'm willing to think deep down that you also hold that same sentiment, traveler"

or something along those lines that are more formal and stretched out

[pulsar zealot]

Why did i have a feeling that ||she lost on purpose||

[wild steeple]

she 100% did, she knows how to build up a narrative

[tawdry blade]

She would just cheat ngl

Who care about disqualified if you never intended to play the tournament

[weary oriole]

Can I have some help narrowing down the next weekly boss/when the 2nd Sumeru weekly boss will be? Like when each previous weekly boss came out, the amount of versions between them, how many characters released in between each boss, etc?

[novel bear]

I know the answer but I'm not sure if I can say it in here,

[weary oriole]

Please DM

[novel bear]

Done

[wicked galleon]

Ah yes

[weary oriole]

Is there any reason why Fischl with Mondstadt vision is in Honkai Impact?

[idle arch]

shes part of a collab

[wild steeple]

I really hope they give a name to the child Scara befriended in Tatarasuna

[weary oriole]

I see.. another dead end for my theory

[lucid palm]

wait what?

[broken sluice]

lore bomb go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[topaz thunder]

woohad

[old lodge]

thats the best story spoiler ive seen all week

[topaz thunder]

haha yeah totally didn't post in the wrong channel hahahha

[cold quail]

If you lose on one of the championship fights, do you get to re-do it?

[tawdry blade]

Obviously yes

Traveler never lose

[cold quail]

okay that's what I figured. heh Just wanted to check tho! 🙂

(even tho I keep losing on those dang defense trials! GRRR)

[tawdry blade]

Use anemo fungi and it carry you the whole event

[cold quail]

On the defense trials?

[rotund kindle]

The geo mushrooms can also bonk large groups of peeps

[tawdry blade]

All

[cold quail]

which anemo?

either as they are avail?

[rotund kindle]

The one that succs enemies in

[tawdry blade]

Anemo one that fly

[rotund kindle]

oh?

I forgot which one flies

[cold quail]

well, the earlier trials don't have that one. 😐

[tawdry blade]

I see

Use geo and it also carry you like barbatoes said

[rotund kindle]

You'll want to split the skill usage and time it when the enemies stop getting aggro'd

[cold quail]

but even so, I THOUGHT I had it figured out... let the fungi attack the smaller enemies and get rid of them cuz they seem to do the most direct dmg to the leyline. THEN worry about the elite...

[rotund kindle]

rather than spamming them all on the outset

[cold quail]

but I STILL couldn't keep up with it! 😢

[rotund kindle]

If you don't have the anemoshroom yet, one of the pyroshrooms will suck the enemies away from the monolith

[cold quail]

The closest I've gotten on all of them except for the first and the 3rd, oddly, is 1750. 😐

[rotund kindle]

Do any of your mushrooms die? Because if you clear the stage without any deaths, you should be able to get at least 2000

[tawdry blade]

Target the enemy that have high hp when other enemy have low hp

[cold quail]

No... that only happened 1 time. So I always keep the healing fungi up as #1... (That's the slot I put my real healer in also)

[tawdry blade]

You can try freeze combo

[cold quail]

It's just so dang frantic! I hate that type of gameplay. 😦

I've actually been doing my best to do vaporize....

[rotund kindle]

Oh, you should see the monolith stages in spiral abyss in v1.0~v1.3

Those are even worse

[cold quail]

I don't do the abyss after 5-3. 😐 I just ...stopped. Non-stop fighting just isn't my thing!

[tawdry blade]

Geo,cryo electro and hydro is a better combo

[rotund kindle]

But yeah, freeze + anemo should work too. When running freeze, don't put anything other than cryo, hydro or anemo

[cold quail]

why is that, @tawdry blade?

[rotund kindle]

Superconduct team

[tawdry blade]

Yep

[cold quail]

Yeah but superconduct is a weaker reaction than vaporize! O.o

[tawdry blade]

That decrease their physical resistance

Which geo can benefit

[cold quail]

(unless of course you're facing the whopperflower)

[rotund kindle]

Actually, what did you put in your vaporize team?

[cold quail]

Hydro... um...

anemo I think?

and then like 2 pyros

[rotund kindle]

If you're running vaporize, you'll want to trigger the hydro's skill before triggering the pyro mushroom's skill

[cold quail]

nods

[tawdry blade]

2 pyro is a pretty bad choice

[cold quail]

I've been using the one that is like Kazhua...

I've switched it around, Ajax.

Put in the geo one for instance...

and then putting the 2nd anemo healer on standby

(the flying one)

[rotund kindle]

Other than that, you can also try hydro + cryo + pyro + anemo kazuha

It's inspired off the National Team comp

[cold quail]

ah

thx for the advice guys... Luckily I still have 13 days left to get it right! 😄

[rotund kindle]

Ganbatte!

[tawdry blade]

[rotund kindle]

No, ||Yae lost because her electro mushroom is trash||

||Her electro mushroom messed up my team comp and prevented me from using the mushroom national team||

[tawdry blade]

Electro fungi kinda good for me

It spin like the thing I forgot

[rotund kindle]

Beyblade? Top?

[cold quail]

I mean I've already bought out both stores... I'm only working on getting Dori C1 (shug) Who I'm not terribly impressed with. (Got her as a side effect. hehe)

[tawdry blade]

Beyblade yeah

Free 1 aqua wish haha

[cold quail]

Um... once you finish the last dialog with Paimon announcing stuff and all, it just ENDS?? O.o It seems totally unfinished! You didn't get to talk to any of the individuals... It doesn't say whether or not you got to keep your fungi... Nothing! O.o 😐

There's pretty much always after-chat! O.o

But this was just like... tra la la, have a nice day, everyone! See ya! 😐

You also didn't get to keep at least your one Fungi! O.o (At least it's no where in my teapot inventory!)

Is there supposed to be more after reset or something??

What's the point of giving us the stage without any fungi to put on it??? O.o

😕

is confused

@tawdry blade

[tawdry blade]

That Eremite take care of them

[cold quail]

okay.. but it totally undermines what the game told us... and what about that useless stage?? O.o

[tawdry blade]

For teapot gamer

[cold quail]

?

[tawdry blade]

Maybe build something with it

[cold quail]

oh

it seems rather pointless! 😕

[tawdry blade]

Well yeah but it is what it is

[cold quail]

In the past if they gave us a stage they gave us something to put ON it! You can't even put the orb on it cuz it's an indoor item. O.o

I feel like I missed some point somewhere! O.o

[tawdry blade]

I think the stage is for the traveler

[cold quail]

I stuck it in my teapot. But nothing to put on it seems rather strange. 😐

I stuck the orb inside.

And like I said: It all sort of ended on this totally unfinished note...

[tawdry blade]

Yeah,there always a rerun for an event

With different story

[cold quail]

perhaps... but having the shrooms to put on the stage or at least ONE of them would have made much more sense! O.O

Like the Fontaine whirly-gig robot guys.

Or the Aranara wood statues

[tawdry blade]

But it would look life less

[cold quail]

Um... no... it could whirl around and hop or whatever... just like the whirly-gig robots!

It honestly feels like Hoyo just sort of ...ended it... like they ran out of ideas or smth.. O.o

[tawdry blade]

I mean,it would be better if it actually follow you like the dog in inazuma event

[cold quail]

nods

exactly. especially like the one dog that you can sword fight with!

but the whole thing, as it stands, just feels... unfinished. 😕

[tawdry blade]

Maybe.. next time we can adopt it in our teapot,as the wisdom orb is bad to use

It would be like the ball thing in inazuma

[cold quail]

well I figured they would at least give us the hydro one as it was supposedly our core element fungi

that's why I feel this sense of... blankness... O.o

and as I said above: There was no after-chatting with the other contestants, etc. I found that odd also...

hrm

[wild steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkT2bTVltOo

a lil extra after the tournament

tl;dr ||Elchingen escaped from the matra but the fatui killed him for being a liability||

[wild steeple]

lmao mushroom national team

I love how even in the fungi pokemon meta, anemo continues to be op

and geo is even more useless because fungi can't even pick up crystalize

[tawdry blade]

Well,geo is good because of it aoe and can dmg any enemy without worry about their elemental resistance

[tawdry blade]

Dam that dark

But well deserved

He was a jerk

[wild steeple]

he was basically Ghetsis from Black & White

100% deserved

[tawdry blade]

He died too?

[wild steeple]

no but similar goals

[tawdry blade]

I see

[wild steeple]

wanted all trainers to release their pokemon so he'd be the only undisputable pokemon trainer so that no one could object him

||Elchingen wanted everyone to have fungi so that when the moment ensued he'd use the backdoor to take back control of them to cause havoc across the world||

[slate agate]

There's another follow up to the quest today. Will be playing it tonight.

[wild steeple]

||Yae... he's dead||

[weary oriole]

So

when irminsul has info on our sister

Could it mean that Lumine is from Teyvat, but we are not?

[lusty crest]

That's what it's implying, but it doesn't make sense

[weary oriole]

It could if we are a puppet maybe?

Theres an anime called tsubasa chronicles (?) where theres some guy that searches the memories of some girl, and at the end he actually found her, but it turns out this is a puppet created by the enemy and the real one is sealed away

maybe the lumine from tevyat, is literally that: a copy of lumine from teyvat.

[lusty crest]

Could be some clone, yes. Or someone tinkered with Irminsul and entered her into its database

[weary oriole]

"yo pass me the lumine usb"

[lusty crest]

Basically yeah lmao

I think some higher entity is playing with us and has some scheme that needs Lumine

[weary oriole]

What if shes like Rukka?

the original lumine finished the teyvat journey, got deleted and replaced with the abyss lumine

[weary oriole]

I believe maybe they want us to stay as long as possible

[lusty crest]

Why would someone erase people's memory of her ? And the second Golden Nara is hinted to be the sibling so that would be impossible

[slate agate]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-gif-25488313

[rotund kindle]

It makes you wonder: what if you're the only one in Teyvat who's still alive? What if you're the only one who's not alive, and you're trapped in your own dream forever while everyone in the waking world is grieving your death?

[tawdry blade]

Sound cool

I would love to stay in my dream forever,do what I want

You don't feel pain anyway,it your dream you can create your own fake friend etc

[wild steeple]

The plot of Enderal

[weary oriole]

Why fake friend of all things lmao

[tawdry blade]

That why I put etc

[weary oriole]

Anyway, I don't think it's likely to happen as many players pay for the game

It'd be frustrating if the ending is just a dream

[weary oriole]

I mean teyvat not being real is just like a dream

[hallow path]

"It's all just a dream" and "Everything resets" are both laughably bad plot devices and it takes a lot of effort to make them actually good without making anything that has ever happened meaningless

[wild steeple]

I mean... the fake skies

Dainsleif's quote in the Teyvat preview trailer "all fates will be rewoven"

The fact that we already tampered with Irminsul enough to completely change the memories of the past

I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that at the very least, we'll severely alter Teyvat's timeline

But it doesn't seem like it'll be a "everything resets" kind of thing and more like "we fixed the past so now the present is alright", making our journey still meaningful

[hollow garden]

@wild steeple makes sense

[tawdry blade]

Yeah,the plot is shit if that is the case

[half ferry]

sus?

[uneven turret]

couldn't be more obvious

might be a red herring tho

[half ferry]

red herring?

[uneven turret]

its like

when a show or book or something

puts a super obvious hint towards something

that is really just like a fake hint meant to throw you off

like a misleading clue basically

[tawdry blade]

I doubt paimon would betray us

Plot to obvious

They would surprise us by reveal that she protect traveler the whole time with her luck power /j

[cold quail]

Okay I'll look for it. 🙂

[cold quail]

@slate agate Well, I played it, but it still feels anti-climatic! O.o I mean as I said above: There's nothing to put on that stage they gave us! O.o I guess it's nice that the one contestant took them all to a "good home" or whatever... but it still feels as though we should have gotten at least 1 of them for the stage! O.o Even sculptures of them or something would have been nice! O.O (Though since it's your teapot, it's not like they were going to "go bad" and start killing everything! O.o ) And our teapot is actually the safest place of all for them! I mean it's really sad that Layla didn't get to keep her obviously-needed new companion! 😦 (Speaking as someone who is disabled.)

[ornate sundial]

And they didn't bring up again the situation in Inazuma that Kautilya mentioned when we first encountered Miko. Maybe it's just a hint to a future Inazuman event. The 3.3 event perhaps?

[tawdry blade]

The event don't have yae miko in it so ..

[ornate sundial]

Knight of Zero was talking about the current fungi event. It most certainly has Miko in it

[tawdry blade]

Ah

[slate agate]

Still waiting for Dottore weekly boss so I can bash his head in

[cold quail]

Which situation was that? (going blank)

[cold quail]

Still waiting on ANYTHING to do now... 😐

[cold quail]

ohhh... right... but he was severely punished, etc. so I doubt that it will spread...?

[ornate sundial]

I'm still curious about the situation that could possibly be swiftly resolved by the wisdom orb. Miko even cut him off before he can say it so maybe she doesn't want others to know about it

[wild steeple]

beast tamer, spectre edition

[slate agate]

Go take some pictures. New event is out 😇

[cold quail]

I always figure with those events that there's no way I would win! I have seen some amazing stuff that I could never capture.

[slate agate]

I mean in game event

You supposed to help an NPC with some pictures right?

[cold quail]

Just like when people flex their teapots... I made mine "realistic" ...but compared to the actually imaginative people (which I thought I was once upon a time) I stand in AWE of the time and effort others put into theris!

[cold quail]

No, it's not an in-game event. It's a Hoyo contest.

[slate agate]

I'm talking about Outside the Canvas, Inside the Lens

[cold quail]

otherwise I'd be all over that. heh

Yes... It's a contest not an in-game event.

I'm just SO not as talented as some of the people who do the fan art or even picture-taking contests...

[slate agate]

Then what is this?

[cold quail]

Um... I don't have that? O.o

Ah, I'm in NA.

So apparently that event hasn't "popped" yet here.

Or did you go to Inazuma to get it?

[slate agate]

I'm in Asia server

Asia server number 1 😇

[cold quail]

(yes, I know... I checked)

hehe

did you do something special to get it? like go to Inazuma? @slate agate

Oh, the article does say in-game... but it says Nov 16.

It's still the 15 atm.

[ashen canyon]

Random question...

Isn't the withering and collei/dunya's disease the same thing?

[slate agate]

Yes

[ashen canyon]

I thought that's two different things, so there's no withering anymore after the archon quest right, lore-wise?

Thanks btw

[slate agate]

Supposedly not

[ashen canyon]

Hmm so even after removing the remaining pollution on irminsul, there's still the withering?

[slate agate]

Not sure if it was a bug or just an oversight, I finished the archon quest and Nahida's story quest. But I stumbled upon a withering area in the overworld.

[ashen canyon]

Oh I meant on the lore, not the gameplay...

But same

[old lodge]

supposedly , there isnt any more after that

[ashen canyon]

That was also my guess at first since it just happened because irminsul is corrupted but I just got confused if only the withering, eleazar(?), or both came from the corruption, thanks btw

[weary oriole]

🤔

is there a musk reef/spiral abyss in the lore

[lusty crest]

i think there is, but the abyss you do each 16 days is not really the real abyss. Iirc it's like a passage that leads to it, but doesn't get there cause it stops at floor 12 (which is def not the abyss you're expecting it to be)

A massive underground city constructed by an ancient civilization long gone. To this day, the purpose of this underground city remains unknown. Its structure is divided into the "Abyss Corridor," which connects worlds, and the "Abyssal Moon Spire," which leads to the unknown. It is now collectively called the "Spiral Abyss"... It is said that many secrets and treasures that have been long forgotten by this world lay buried within...
Monsters and humans alike flock to the tower in search of the secrets and treasures it contains. Challenge different floors of the tower and defeat the enemies within to win Abyssal Stars. Do this, and the Spiral Abyss may yet look upon your hard work and bestow rewards upon you.

[weary oriole]

naruhodo ne, just wondering if people the dwell in there will get any kind of affliction of some sort

like how the actual abyss that corrupts things it touches

[cold quail]

I just came back and re-read the subs on that image... And you're right... Which situation? O.o (I misunderstood your point the first time around.)

[ornate sundial]

Right? I hope they follow up on it in future events

[cold quail]

Well at least give us a hint about what that guy meant! O.o

[cold quail]

Unless he seems to think that the war is still going on in Inazuma?

[ornate sundial]

Miko didn't want us to know just yet

[cold quail]

heh

[lusty crest]

well i think the blessing part is true, as for corruption and such i have no idea. But if it were to be true, i doubt the traveler would go there unscathed (even if they somehow have light connections)

[tired ice]

no traveller is the mc they can do anything

[lusty crest]

Doesn't really work like that. We saw the traveler get corrupted by Tatarigami or whatever the thing Scaramouche unleashed was so it's no surprise if they can't withstand Abyss corruption too