#・genshin-spoilers
1 messages · Page 10 of 1
descenders
i didnt know you were supposed to activate the electro ones
so i was just activating the other ones
- Sustainer 2. alice 3.Aloy/sibling 4. Traveller
or is aloy after traveller and 5

bosses are getting animation powercrept so hard rn
went from summoning a whale to dropping a planet
hmm
ALICE is highly possible
my girl can travel from world to world
i remember that she can break 4th walls?
i feel she went to the honkai world as well
so abyss twin is from this world?
or they became a traveler first then became the abyss prince/princess
What we gonna face the Counselor of the Heavenly Principal or something like that
Like we have to go through 7 divine beings again
That's one way Hoyo could pat out the story and make it not boring
so much lore
this archon quest is full of infos yet questions are still unanswerable
does nahida still have her gnosis?
and when will they show this??
no, dottore got it
never gg
i see
Yooo what the heck this is the best archon quest ever
the archon quests keep getting better man
More quest 3.3?
the only problem i've had with this archon quest is how the subtitles keep being inaccurate to what's being said
yea
there’s no way 3.3 comes around with no quest and is just like here’s scaramouche with a anemo vision
an
alice is a descender?
for sure
the 3rd or 2nd
she can travel from worlds
Most likely
why is jp VA the only one that has traveler react to scara falling to the ground lmaoooo
deadass thought someone would catch him
bro literally just died and nobody bothered to check 💀
its so hilarious, in jp they gasp/sound concerned when he hits the ground but cn and en just dead silence 💀
fr
you can ask nahida about him at the end and she says he's just sleep or something lmao
but its so funny they dont even go over and check
So how come our twin isn’t a descender?
dunno
Interesting
I think it's the journey
I wonder if they’ve become corrupted by the abyss
Slowly becoming like tevyt over x years
Yeah could be
im kind of sad scara's en va didn't go for it more in that final scene
he held back too much
didnt sound desperate enough
Traveler and their sibling are not that smart
I fucking hate the scary moose and I hope he fucking dies
who asked
Yea they just left him and we find out what happened to him literally at the end
is it just me or does rukka's VA sound like lumine's
he wont die anyways nahida literally says at the end that he's still alive
Saddest part of this whole game tbh
I will never understand people who hate the sumeru archon quest
i get you're mad that he beat yae miko on twitter but relax
its not that deep
This has had some of the best pacing in game so far and good character development
I don’t use Twitter 💀
But like
no way i believe that
I’m so mad at the scary moose
Imagine
Imagine being a scary moose lover
Couldn’t be me
3edgy5me, also he’s a massive douche through the entire story
ok and theres a reason for him acting like that if you bother reading lore
spent 4 hours finishing the archon quest and still not enough for 1 pull 💀
that sound like ppl who hate on ei without considering her backstory and circumstances
He grew a god complex 👍
bc he wanted to avoid the pain of human emotions
do ppl really not get this
same people that hate eula because she comes from a slavery backstory and ignoring literally everything else
like bro
ikr he suffered alot omg
???
exactly
Yeah eula is racist, haven’t you seen the memes?
im dead 💀
I didn’t mean it literally 💀
I mean I guess it’s hard to be sarcastic online
it has to be a ridiculously bad opinion to be sarcastic
yeah idk a lot of ppl act like scara was just some normal guy who said "i wanna be a god and kill for fun!" one day lol like he basically had a mental and emotional breakdown after a lot of trauma happened to him and all of his asshole behaviour is basically just a defense mechanism/him trying to avoid that pain
Ok but seriously: I didn’t like Ei at first either. What made her good was having an actual redemption arc (her second story quest)
like saying c6 yelan is garbage
The scary douche has not had a redemption arc yet
just like ei becoming a shut in was a selfish and stupid decision but you can understand it
fair, but he will get one
i liked having ei as the main antagonist in inazuma tho ngl
If he has one and it isn’t fucked up, I’ll change my mind
its already being hinted at with that convo between him and traveler tbh
But so far he’s just acted like a douche
No shit
Will it be an actual redemption arc or just Ei story quest 1?
he did show some affection towards haypasia and traveler already, just in a very twisted way
Will he be uwuified?
for now lets just wait for 3.3 and see what happens there
I pulled Ei mostly cause she’s an archon. Her second story quest made her a good character
Because that shit was actually well written
Scaramouche hasn’t had that moment yet
If he does, I’ll change my mind
Lmaoooo they turned isak into kusa cosplay bahahahahab
ikr its rlly good and i didnt get y ppl thought her 1st story quest was just a date with da traveler
Her first story quest was very uwuified tho
it looked like that ngl even though the premise is kinda obvious
supposedly (potential leak spoilers?)|| traveler helps him find and restore his memories and i guess we'll get to see his past in detail or something||, so i think it'll be better than "we take scara on a date and he becomes a good guy" hopefully lol, though i think there was more to ei act 1 than that anyways
Like yea I see why he wants to be sheltered from emotions because he’s been like fucked over so many times
"we take scara on a date" 💀
funnier than when nobody checked on him after he fell face first into the ground
Yeah tbh there was more to Ei than that, but the first story quest was pretty uwuified
Honestly first and second story quest should have been combined into one
it was but i really dont think we'll get that for scara story quest lol
Mhy could fuck it up
Don’t put it past them
I think for scaramouche story quest we look at his past w him
maybe but i think they've done a pretty good job showing there's another side to him without making him all uwu so far
around those lines
yeah i think it sounds like it could be really good
It could, it could also be really bad
how he’ll get a vision we’ll see
i prefer to be optimistic for now lol
So far the only bit of excellent writing in this game was Ei story quest 2
Everything else was mid to good
And sometimes bad
It’s rarely outright bad
i think tighnari quest was really good
Highkey I bawled my eyes out when makoto
But that could also be bc Anne yatco is a good va
i want an archon quest where someone gets their vision in the middle of it and clutches up somehow
shouldn't it be in a archon quest tho?
theres supposed to be a sumeru interlude quest in 3.3 so maybe that will feature scara too
because it will be weird
more lore yes
When 3.3 comes around and he’s just better with a vision
Yk what I want? I wanna see Ei and yae finally confess and get married
but like that would also serve as his story quest no??
That could be Ei story quest 3
I hope not
That could actually work
no he has a separate story quest
kinda like with shenhe and kazuha
it seems a bit logical
Idk like he wakes up and we just take him
It’s a option that could happen
theres sumeru interlude + scara story quest. my guess is that he gets his vision during the interlude and then we do his story quest with him. but could be other way around too and we need to do his story quest first to unlock the interlude lol
although the only person who can check up on him is only nahida...
mm
I guess
Welppp
We will see
it would be kind of weird to go straight into his story quest from where he is in the story rn tbh
When it comes around
I guess sumeru interlude with nahida and scara
right lmao
If that’s what you mean
wakes up and traveler suddenly decides to help him
My guess is he'll loose his memories and start a new era of his life ig
then the traveller will strat seeing him in the new light
Yea my thoughts is that he has amnesia or smthing
I mean like damn that fall,,,
He hit his head kinda hard
im guessing he loses his memories but then traveler helps him get them back in his story quest.
Yeaa
Probbalyvthru irminsul
Oh yea
i also heard sum things from my friend saying maybe Ei would be in his story quest
maybe she'll appear in his memories
Maybe we see her in his past
Welp
We said basically the same thing
not physically is my guess
im guessing traveler will see a different side to him while helping him and maybe develop some kind of bond with him, and then even after he gets his memories back he'll probably be grateful for that and remember it and then thats how he ends up playable
dat could da case maybe
And why are we the only 4th ever descenders
people who are not from this world
basically ppls from another world ig?
whatt
Odds of scaramouche remembering his dark past
yeah if we see ei its probably going to be in his memories
what would happen
so we’re the 4th ppl who arent from teyvat
Who are the other 3????
because we're the 4th person that wasnt from this world to come to this world
finished archon quest aaaa
And its not even our siblings
yea i mean after traveller seeing his past he can't just let him lay there
would be lumine and….
People said alice
Our siblings don't count as descenders only we are
1st is "the heavenly principles" which is the god who we fought in the beginning, 2nd and 3rd are unconfirmed
sumeru archon quest arc good
ahh
yes
for whatever reason our sibling isnt a descender for reasons unknown
oh really
sheesh
pretty sure "heavenly principles" is just what they call celestia's principles
yes
no it's a deity
it's not a concept it's a person
^ thought of this too
they did say she was not from teyvat
idts
i thought scara saying "it almost sounds like you care about me" or whatever in the greenhouse was almost like foreshadowing that traveler probably will end up caring about him or being friends with him
i thought that was the case but it isnt with the lore bomb saying this
the heavenly principles is a concept and that god we met is merely it's "sustainer"
in a sense they are "ideals" of this world decreed by celestia it seems
i keep thinking she's from the honkai universe
yes omg agreeee I lowkey got excited ngl
obv y
well the heavenly principles is the god we fought according to nahida
when did she say that lmao
I just finished the quest
with the threat to awaken them and in her dialogue later on after that
wait omg my friend would scream loudly when dat happens cuz she loves him sm
actually nahida is still in front of me rn
I love how the sumeru cast were the main characters in the archon quest - they all did so many important parts
I love it I love this archon quest
ikr
she mentions them in the 2nd choice i think
i love it too omg
and they're a descender as well
wait btw da traveler's twin isnt a descender right?
whatever she calls it, it's whoever we fought in the very beginning if im not mistaken
somehow yes
she didnt say "entity" in CN lmfao
ic
what did she said?
im hoping they dont make scara nice all of a sudden, i want his voice lines to be at least a little bitchy
"dont you remember... what changed your fate at the beginning... the heavenly principles"
make him mean but also abit nice
no clue why they'd name them like that but that's how it is
this
confusing asf
in CN "heavenly principles" is referred to by 天理
its a way of saying "ways of the sky" kind of
with 天 meaning sky and 理 roughly being able to be understood as "principles" ig
Now in chinese 天 is generallyu associated with heaven or whatever related to that
eg
heaven in chinese is “天堂“ or "sky room/chamber/place of worship"
So no nahida did not call the heavenly principles a specific god or entity, just merely something that changed the traveller's fate
I hope scara kneels and begs and simps for us
I hope not
my friend would die if dat happened rlly
No he only does it cause he falls in love with Ei and wants to date her
wjat
i see dats p nice alot more things in cn ig
sweet home alabama

w plot
wait isnt traveler like 500 yrs old? idk???
Scara simps for us so we take him to Inazoomer where he meets Ei and with a bit of encouragement from yae they fall in love and get married
And the next story quest is marriage counseling cause shogun bot doesn’t like 3rd wheeling so they decide to be polyamorous and include her
omg 5 star bow
genshin twitter will be in chaos
they're already married in my eyes
Just wait till they find out about how shenhe and ganyu are keqing’s parents
y does this remind me of failing to get yoimiya's bow (forgor da name)
But they got divorced
So ganyu’s with childe now
But childe is abusive
So she needs hu Tao for counseling
😀 huh
And shenhe is just an alcoholic
hell no, ganyu's a lesbian 😊
And childe’s a girl
i sense it sniff shiff controversy
thats one ugly girl then
My gf is femme and so am I
But I got nothing against masc lesbians
disrepec :(
Childe is beautiful… and when he broke of ganyu’s horn and uhh
It was a sign of true love
wait...
omg
i cannot handle this
i just realized sumthing from dat
not again\
n
no
It’s canon I saw a comic about it
all are part of trvalers harem one and only truth
stahp ur gibing me nightmares again
😭
Traveller is canonically invited to the archons’ swinger party

Kusanali is excluded from this party, for obvious reasons
i love how nahida effortlessly defeats scara after all that work to be a god
She just gives him a massive L cause of dreams

we luv nahida
im kinda upset after the scara boss fight literally nothing happens and they dont show him at all 💀 like he just falls to the floor and boom next scene
i too feel this.
hes in coma
ik
i REALLY expected scara to be in the after events like sum cutscene of him n all but no

can you give me what your smoking ?
That’s why Ei is so angry, cause she wanted to be with Zhongli cause of his pillars, but he was c0 and couldn’t have 2 for both of them
coma
me still sad but its alright
as they should
*you’re
i mean they shouldve stabbed him in the back while he is down smh
Yeah I hope he gets redeemed and then marries ei
:(
That would be so cute
what?
who tf are u talking about
leave.
omg
alright another one on the block list
fr
Oh yea what does it mean when the gnosis are “laws”
sweet home alabama
ei is married to yae and scara is their kid 😊
It means that now that scaramouche and Ei don’t have gnosis any more, there’s nothing stopping true love from blossoming
💀
3/10
💀
0/10
Wtf am I reading
uhhhhhh its a theory of mine but gnosis r like prison cells n the archons r the prisoners trapped by the law
When will we get a playable gnosis?
something mankind cannot look
when scara dies
Has anyone finished the new archon quest
me
Just the fucking gnosis itself
me :D
What did you think about it
I did
best archon quest so far
Busy descending rn
Yea thought the same
i give it 10/5
I give it a 10
its rlly good i give it a 9/10
Sorry but youre wrong, Inazuma had the best archon quest
the other sumeru archon quests sucked, i really liked this one
It was appealing, had the ending we wanted and also massive info giver
your attempts are getting lamer bro stop
more lore delicious
Worst
what are you gonna tell us next? liyue exploration is the best?
They milked inazuma
Uwuifying the main villain is the best
Too much
its good but not rlly sumthing i would gib my favor for
No, enkanomiya exploration is the best
Liyue and Mondstadt still have a lot of exploration left
So we may see more of that
😔
In 3.3 maybe
the scene where it panned out to every major character in sumeru kinda hyped me up tbh that aq was 11/10
In 3.3
We will see
especially the changing time animation right?
3.5 is traveler quest
w
HOW LONG IS 3.2 ARCHON QUEST? sorry for caps
15/10 for me luv how they put all the characters from sumeru in the quest
Also enkanomiya has the best npcs when the lights are on
dain 😍
About 4-5h
long
ye it long
I hope we get an actual Genshin dating sim
i started at like 10 and its almost 2 am and im still getting through the end of the dialogue 💀
Go sleep
o wrong reply
2hr max
Imagine taking nilou on a date
We don’t need no stupid dating sim
2hr if you blitz thru the cutscenes
And then halfway through she gets murdered by ayaka
💀
sniff controversy sniff
anyone else just ignoring zuzu at this point LMAO
who?
idk man
They say so much random and dumb stuff
who dat i think greater lord rukkhadeveta deleted my memories
thats for the best
No
amogus
amongus
does anyone remember the name of the hydro archon revealed
it was with f
it started with letter f
Focalor
i wonder what this means
You’re talking about dehya right?
ok yeah thanks
what happened to scara
He’s in a coma
poor man
ohh alr cool
itll take me a while to get there prob cuz im still on the 2nd story quest
💀
tyy
These quest lately have been really good
yeah
No more archon quest next patch ?
Personally I think there is more
How so?
i give the archon quest 8.9/10
it is good
interesting that the sibling is not considered one of the four descenders
Probably but i dont think he deserves a archon quest just dedicated to him when the main conflict in sumeru has ended
Mm
and the primordial one and heavenly principles might be the same thing?
unless principles arrived before primordial one
They really brought back the sky being fake from 1.1
in cn she just says hes still asleep but i guess its the same thing lol
Rip all the lore people missed
theres going to be a "sumeru interlude" so that will probably have some scara in it
And the fact that they actually had a strong part in the quest and not just there to look pretty and cool. Like every character had a unique role just for them. Tighnari as Pardis protector. Dehya as the muscle of the group, cyno as the final judger, alhaitham as the brains.. I loved it such a rag tag group of explorers and that was soo well written
And the thing was it was believable
The fact that it wasn’t just traveler but people from the highest echelons of the akademiya - the matra, the scribe - powerful people with access and advantages who also felt disillusioned by the system
Love ittt
same omg
Imagine inazuma was actually written like this
traveler being the fourth descender
Easily sumeru had the best archon quest ever

this
Idk I honestly think this was the first quest that had so much depth in it - it felt like they covered all their bases really well
I can’t believe the same game also gave us the inazuma and Liyue archon quests hahaha
keeps getting better
anyone know how to break balladeer things shield
use the mechanic
the floating thingy?
ya
how do I charge it
i dont know exactly what attacks but after those attacks it'll drop crystal stuff
and u can tp to it to collect it
at max charge u can aim a huge projectile for bigger shield dmg
ooo ok TYSM :D
i just finished the archon quest
my god, the way things paid off and how they set future plot points up.. they really took their time, damn
it was good. i love how i'm more immerse in sumeru quest compare to the other region
but the boss fight was not it, my raiden died when that big ball of electro hit the ground
Chad Nahida
i'm glad they made her a boss at negotiating
that was an amazing scene
deadass bluffed her way to destroy the No. 2 Fatui Harbinger's segments
lmao
bruh ||"top-ranked futui harbingers, up to no.3 possess powers comparable to that of a god". so i guess pierro, dottore, and columbina are actual fucking menaces||
i saw some peeps theorize about Columbina being the last Seelie and Pierro coming from Khaenri'ah.. if that turned out to be true, i would not be surprised
aloy
sorry, do i need to spoiler tag myself in the spoiler channel? lemme know if i misread the rules.. my bad if i did
no
oh okay, thank you friend
np brother
Im happy that the robot is still with Tighnari
it’s a recap for people missing out on 1.1
Like how 3.1 introduced Scaramouche to new people
💀
https://twitter.com/kradebii/status/1587650417868955648 how can i get closer to him 😭
dottore is hot
Wait did they take away scaramouche's memories after the quest tho
Can't believe nahida pull this move on scaramouche lol
ijust love this view
Ok the info about traveler's sibling literally sent me upside down and confused af
Yea,it still unclear
But my theory is the sibling got brainwash to become the leader, making the sibling become teyvat "people "
Well into the next nation!
(Knowing well that we don't even get an information on Travers siblings Again)
Idk why I'm having a feeling that he about to do this
https://media.tenor.com/ZXA5tGlYY9IAAAAM/genshin-impact-hu-tao.gif
I wonder if the other 2 descender died or not
I m thinking Paimon could be one of them
At least somethin now.
why did we record our thoughts in a capsule
still no idea what that was for
and how did alhaitham survive divine knowledge
so
Okay I'll answer this in order.
)We recorded our thoughts to be able to swap out the knowledge capsule that's supposed to go in the akasha so we could feed false info that Nahida escaped.
)He didn't actually use the divine knowledge capsule. He purposefully dropped it and made it look like he had used it with his advanced model of an akasha terminal.
Now kiss
Why do they still call kusanali lesser lord when the greater lord never existed
They only forgot the greater lord’s name but not lesser lord
Basically greater lord was never a name to begin with for them
I mean the title lesser lord is kinda an insult
SoHP = Primordial one?
Havent done archon quest at all, just curious
Do we get to use the elevator in the middle od the big shelf room in akademiya in the archon quest?
Yes
So many characters in one scene
Yeah
Unlike inazuma with ayaka not appearing in the quest
Or celebrate in the end
Kinda disappointed that cyno didn't say a single jokes on the archons quest
can someone explain what exactly is happening with scaramouche and abt everyone forgetting about greater lord?
You didn't pay attention did you?
ig I kinda understand scaramouches situation but idk with greater lord
oh
she dead
Greater lord got corrupted in her try to destroy the forbidden knowledge, so in order to save the tree and get rid of the corruption, nahida needed to destroy the momery of the greater lord, thus erasing the corruption and the greater lords memory from everyone
ah shucks, i completely forgot to try to use nahida's thought reading skill during the feast. was it possible?
No
ISTW THEY BETTER LET US FIGHT SAGES

Cuz that’s just how she’s called.
Or nahida edit people memory
Nope.
The curing of what-it’s-called Tree meant the complete erasure of the Greater Lord’s existence as she was tied to it.
The erasure of the Great Lord’s existence meant the history was edited so Nahida was Sumeru’s “only” Archon.
Where is the balladeer rn in the story LMAOOO is he still passed out in the akademiya
What happen to the Dendro Gnosis?
Apparently Nahida took him into custody.
Apparently both the Electro and Dendro Gnoses were implied to be traded off to Dottore.
The Electro Gnosis was traded for Dottore to destroy his other copies.
The Dendro Gnosis was traded for “the sky is fake” thing
How to destroy those mechanisms furing scaramouche spirit bomb? I didnt bring bow users or catalysts earlier and my atks cant seem to hit the flying ones. Should i bring aoe/catalyst/bows??
Not sur eif this is the correct channel to ask this tho hahaah but also dun wanna spoil others
I just forced my way through Phase 1 cuz I don’t know what I was supposed to do after thinking I was supposed to use the Fat Chub to damage him.
he got completely erased by yoimiya and her new bow. so much for being a "god"
Isnt it irony that nahida traded the electro gnosis for dottore's copies to be destroyed which reminds us of ei's little experiment with puppets, and the dendro gnosis for wisdom 
We trading the Electro Gnosis left and right lmfao.
Am I tripping? I think they said that forbidden knowledge couldnt be eradicated? How did Grtr Lord Ruk's sacrifice eradicate the forbidden knowledge?
First Yae traded it off for the Traveler’s life, and now Nahida traded it off for some robots to be destroyed.
Is alice also similar to traveller as there are only 3 memebers aside from traveller
Possibly.
Waiting for someone to make the "Mom can we have Dendro Archon > We have Dendro Archon at home > Dendro Archon at home" meme
maybe
i thought the brother would have been considered a descender too
but apparently not

Can we talk about how chubby and cute this little shit is??
The Traveler is one. The Sibling isn’t.
yeah
For Aether choosers, Lumine isn’t a Descender.
Isn't istaroth the descendants as well
uhhh not sure
The SoHP is the first.
nahida said the traveler’s the 4th descendent
We don’t know about the second and third though.
isnt that just nahida’s hypothesis though?
so means she could be wrong
Wait, I thought she was sure about it-
did they give dottore a face lift?
Dunno 
Dunno. But they made him kill his own copies.
Great for him
Istaroth(god of time mentioned by yae or ei in archon quest)
Heavenly principles (the one that trapped traveller in cube)
Alice
Traveller
I think these are the 4 descendants might be wrong
hmmm
its possible
||wait so guys is the dendro gnosis now in dottore's hands too??||
||first he exchanged all copies and erased them for the electro gnosis||
I think so
||then he shared something dark and deep with nahida for the dendro gnosis?||
nahida said she traded her gnosis for the descendant information
||that was the deal , but we never saw her handing it over||
i think
The 4 descenders reminds me of the 4 shining shades created by the primordial one
hm
so the forbidden knowledge is that concerning the abyss
which is why celestia wanted to destroy khanreiah
||He shared the secrets of heavenly principles about sky to nahida then yoinked her gnosis||
rukkadevata said it herself
imagine if dajnslief is one of the descendants
what a man
getting two gnoses at once
and the way he speaks
Was the forbidden knowledge the same thing that orobashi accidentally saw and died?
Unlike Signora.
Wait a minute.
so if we are thr 4th
does that mean
the enemy traveller or the prince / princess of the abyss is the 3rd descendant?
cause they came before us technically
Nope, the sibling isnt a descendant
electro gnosis just getting tossed back and forth
Where did the Anemo and Geo gnoses go though? Did Signora give them to Tsaritsa immediately after getting them or did she kept them on her before she died??
according to dottore
Not really i guess
Because nahida said that the abyss sibling was belong to this world or smth
yeah
the anemo and geo is w them
The descenders was supposed to be not from this world i think?
Damn.
^^ she said the akasha has information on the sibling so the sibling is actually from teyvat
True
and the akasha only doesnt have information on descenders
bc the trailer shows the anemo and geo with the fatui
so before signora went for the electro gnosis , she gave the anemo to the tsaritsa
and geo gnosis easily goes to them (also by signora) as a part of contract
It makes me question more about the opening cutscene
Iruminsul, not Akasha.
Why did the abyss sibling gain the light element even tho she is from teyvat
how does that make sense
bc the starting scene is them both fighting w an unknown god
Yeah and that sh make me question more
so if he was from tevyat then why would the god call them ''outlanders''
Probably from the traveller
Since he is on the same power with celestia
theyre twins though-
that makes sense bc
the sibling could have a whole element to their own
light
Aether is the Light God
At this time we can't confirm anything sure but the traveller is missing a lot of his memories
Controlling the Light and Stars
this whole archon quest is too deep
alot to think about
but there’s no way the sibling is from teyvat
because well, the unknown god called both siblings outlanders

Wait
We will have to see in the next traveler quest
When did the irminsul appeared
I am sure the traveller will question dain about this
literally
nahida says that the irminsul has memories of the sibling hence they are from tevyat
but that logic is FLAWED
bc the sibling came five hundred years ago before us , so they defintely stayed in tevyat for a long while till everything fell apart
and since they stayed , hence the irminsul has memories of it
YEAH that was what I was thinking
but what’s weird is that the traveler did so many notable things in teyvat yet somehow irminsul doesn’t have anything about the traveler? 😭
it does
they just prolly didnt ask
or seek it
dunno, nahida said there’s no information on us 
this whole archon quest is mind boggling
I mean , even the fatui knows all our feats in monstadt , liyue , inazuma and sumeru
inferring that they take this information from the irminsul
Yep
But the clues she gave is mind blowing
that is but a possibility that makes sense
They have soldiers over all nations
which is why dottore immediately recognizes the traveller
honestly
I felt like crying when I saw scaramouche see the gnosis of his mother taken away from him right before his eyes
you could tell he was inching to just get it that the wires almost detached
I want it as a pet
Deserved it tho
Bro i accidentally choked the way he falls ☠️
Can’t say he didn’t
mhm agreed
He didn’t even have any emotional reaction towards it
imagine bc of the fall he forgets himself and becomes ''wanderer''
Can definitely will see Nahida trying to fix his mess.
Only him
he did actually lol
i think there was some desperation too? because he said something about not wanting to become a mortal again
so that was kinda sad

Meh
He has but the problem with him, he dunno how emotions work.
His sadness will be cured soon
he just buried away his emotions bc of his past experiences
his main aim was just revenge against the gods
I felt the way he feel
fr
Can I just some assume ppl who chatting here now has finished the current archon quest right?
He already has anemo vision right or will he get after this archon quest
Yes
Yup
delusional and over ambitious people : pyro
knowledgeable like al haitham : dendro
yes
no
but ive been spoiled so its fine
Maybe in his story quest
i only have the last part left
I havent but I watched videos of it and im hooked
How far are you?
Ahhh okay I better not ask then.
nilou's treat
its fine dw about it
We finally can enter cat's tail
©GI FRONT
Weee
Diona lore 
it made me cry when I realized everyone actually forgot rukkadevata
except the traveller
even nahida forgot

Everybody forgor
so basically only the descendants remember
They can also forgor
Ow
I assume they forgotten her too based on their voiceline about Nahida.
if nahida forgot, i think its rlly likely they forgot too
According to leaks, cat's tail will be accessible in 3.3 as well
its just sad
Imagine living your whole life for such a noble purpose
fighting and protecting people
but bc of complications , all of you , your existence and everything you did , is suddenly forgotten
somehow it feels scary being that person
Together with the new TCG
What I am annoyed is that what is Rukkhadevata's demonic name!??
I was hoping Nahida called her real name.
I think they both share the same name
if irminsul does not remember , then how will anything on tevyat remember ?
oh yeah, why was nahida called buer by scaramouche and rukkhadevata?
am i missing something 
yeah im wondering that too
Isnt nahida basically rukkha's child tho
i think it means ''junior me'' or ''protototype'' or ''new me''
nahida IS rukkhadevata

Can say so.
not rlly
they are different people
she is though
Yeah no yeah
but like
you could say
nahida is made from rukkadevata
But is not rukkadevata herself
rukkha said nahida was a part of her
They are different people came from the same existence
Rukkhadevata is the irminsul, nahida is just the best branch plucked out of it and made into...nahida
Rukkha's line said "You are me, I am you" so kinda make them both 50/50 imo.
its only been a day and you guys understood so much ,, im glad
Identity fraud
yeah , its in a different context
she meant psychologically , as in they have the same personality
does not mean they are the same beings entirely
literally
i’m so confused about the descenders
My theory is that they are like plants with the same species... Nahida is only a seed and once she grew she will look like rukkha... Maybe that's why rukkha and nahida looks the same
is the first descender the same person who killed the seven sovereigns
imagine elysia turns out to be a descender and thats how they introduce her into genshin
Hmm, make sense.
yeah from what we know we have
loads of outlanders
like a shit ton😭
yes thats true dear
its not really confirmed
nahida herself wasn’t sure, iirc
she needa work double time cause i got questions
she hypothesised it was the heavenly principles tho
the fifth descender being queen aloy 👑😭
We only got heavenly principles, i mean she just plopped into teyvat and made celestia and traveler as confirmed
that is why i said nahida is made from rukkadevata
but they are different people
like how a child is born from the parent's skin
but the parent and child are differnet people
asexual reproduction maybe?
that’s the closest thing i can think of
pain.
this happened to me twice 😭
The way they mentioned heavenly principles sounded like one group of beings went down instead of one individual but I might be wrong on this. Reminds me of the Primordial God with 4 shades from Enka.
Yeah they were not replicated but duplicated... Exact copy with two different consciousness
I wonder how nahida would even destroy the gnosis
same
this is actually the second time its happened to me
the first being to complete nilous quest
then tighnari one
it would make more sense for the second and third descenders to be the first and second ones who came
remind me never to unlock story quests again
cause their lore is interlinked and makes sense for nahida to know about neither
Same.
mhm i told myself that but i went and unlocked nahida’s story quest 
In short, nahida is a clone...?
worth doing it
Because we are annoyed with the notification.
nah idts
Not really
that’s the closest human comparison
Is like groot
i
Yes
if we’re being literal she’s like rukkas hand being cut off and growing into her child
no two apples are the same right?
using this same analogy , we cannot conclude that nahida is a clone of rukkadevata
yes , they do share similarities
i agree, esp since rukka highlighted how different they are and their fates will not be the same
Of course
oh also anyone who’s done nahida story quest does she mention the false sky again
Scaramouche is so annoying and edgy
cause i’m having withdrawals i’ve been waiting for info on it for literal years
Like groot... Really
he's a walter white
which is why she will be a better archon than rukkadevata
bc she will let knowledge and thirst grow withdrawing the use of the akasha terminals
it was originally made to combat the pollution in irminsul
it is like a two edged sword
hence nahida understood this , which is why she disabled the akasha
an amazing step to prosperity
his boss voicelines r so cringey oh my god
I felt paimon was annoying in this quest
I think heavenly principles only refers to the unknown god, because i dont remember any details if she entered teyvat alone or smth
paimon is useless lmao
the beep beep thing was cool tho lol
I had no idea what i did during the scara boss fight in the archon quest 
paimon is the 3rd descendant dont tell me
I just blundered through fighting him and it worked
please no
i kinda hope they retcon all the sovereign and first and second ones who came lore cause it’s gonna get real confusing again really quickly
He talks like those "meet my anime alter" kids on tiktok 😭

Is the scara mech difficult for any of you
she forgot queen rukka though right
it was on one part before nahida helped us
we couldnt do much dmg at all
i think that’s what’s gonna be the identifier when we meet the next descender
they’re gonna mention her and travellers gonna be all
Someone here earlier said that aloy is the third descender... It kinda makes sense
but other than that , they made scara boss easy because hes in an archon quest and everyone needs to pass from it
nah she isn't canon forget about her lmfao
Yeah he sucks
it does.. but she’s never been mentioned in lore
I legitimately hate scara
It's so unfortunate we have a new reason to even talk about aloy /j
Rukka had to obliterate herself because she got tainted by forbidden knowledge.
Nahida, five minutes later: lol I gonna trade my gnosis for some forbidden knowledge.
anyone but her
same
I was so happy that scara got what he deserved. I loved how he went out begging like a little kid
the whole sibling not being a descender thing also makes me scared for the time travel theories
Maybe no one (even the fatui) cares about her which is why she might not be listed as the 3rd descender
it’s my worst fear
time travel is always the worst concept to add i hate it so much i’m begging
What scara did was pathetic... Tbh
Time Travel makes me every story go to shi— so I wanna see what happens lmao
yeah im still wondering how the sibling isnt a descender
Yeah yeah enough dialogue I wanna beat Scaramouche now
I just wanna beat up scara man
So, this is why eleazar still continued to exist, because people know rukkhadevata, and she is tainted?
They don’t have scara’s splash art… I’m in despair
And to top that... Scaramouche is just another successful and failed experiment of Dottore...
I can’t believe they are making him playable
If I ever do co op, I’ll leave if I see a scara
same
which dottore voice did u think was the web toon one
surely the last one right
whiny bitch voice fits
i thought collei and dunyarzad was cured of eleazar
I can’t believe people are down bad for him. Like get some standards
most of his fans are absolute harpys so good decidion
His design is ugly, his personality is ugly
He's a RAT
especially cause he just seems like a child
No, I mean before everyone forgot about rukkhadevata
Yes he made him a god but Scaramouche wasn't able to accomplish his goals... He was blinded by his emotions once again
I found my tripe
traveler and nahida destroying elezar is the equivalent of curing cancer me thinks
i mean
it would also prove wrong the whole point of them being the ruler of abyss if they werent a descender
and if they werent a descender , celestia wouldnt have much reason to be against them in the first place
put simply , it raises alot of questions
Raiden jumps into the picture: told yall
ahh i see
agreed
Yeah Raiden was smart for casting him aside
so many questions
Yae had the right idea to kill scara
Childe and signora are far more mature harbinger than scara
I hope they’ll be answered in the fontaine archon quests

They backpaddled so hard with dunyazard dying in the 2nd archon quest I'm so fucking livid
Due to their thinking...
She never died though except in our imagination
I really hope one day we can return to Sumeru after Nahida found some answers especially the 2nd and 3rd Descendant.
I like what they did
I mean the game’s name is original god in Chinese so maybe the sibling is an original god??? Nah this game is fucking w us 💀💀
so essentially the three canon descenders rn are heavenly principles girl, primordial one, and the second who came
Nahida story quest act 2...this time we get dottore boss fight
They should have given Scara the Signora treatment
^^^^^^^^
I think she just died cause of covid
also we can all agree inazuma quest needs a redo cause sumeru proved they know how to do it😭
she only cast him aside bc his body wasnt powerful enough
she never saw him as a son or her child in the first place , just a puppet
for example , ei does not consider raiden shogun as her daughter , she is just a ruler in her stead
so the whole point of scara understanding raiden's arctions from a different angle is wrong but you cannot blame him
he did not have anyone to rely on except his creator , hence he saw her as a mother
It's clear that traveler siblings are both from a civilization far stronger than anyone down in teyvat
Yes.
Nah I blame him cause he’s annoying
I wonder how nahida would find out about the old teyvat knowledge that includes primordial god, because im assuming thats the forbidden knowledge 
Scara was reset when the gnosis was taken... Thus, his redemption arc as wanderer
i kinda wish traveler told us more other than the “sea of stars” cause that’s literally nothing where tf do u come from
And thats also why orobashi was killed wasnt it, and its a god
scara craves praise and validation he's walter white the edgier edition
sea of stars ✨
Shouldn’t have given him a redemption arc
no exceptions
Yup definitely can foresee this especially with his redesign outfit and the vision holder.
is that the new excuse for locking lore now lmao😭
before it was zhonglis stupid contract
now we got forbidden knowledge
this game's story is heavily marred by the format of the game itself
can’t tell you until the plot is ready for it !
He was reset? I thought he just fell into a coma?
i’m glad nahida actually told us information 😭
i thought she was gonna pull a zhongli or raiden
Nahida: the only useful archon
They could hire a lot of famous writers and they wouldn't still be able to fix the story
and say she cant tell us because of a contract or because she was absent
Hello, I'm new to this specific channel, I checked it out becoz the latest Archon Quest was the most intriguing so far. Anyways, I have weird question. How often do people talk about or make assumptions/comparisons with "Honkai" and "Griseo" here when discussing the story/archon quests?
I cant wait for the Hydro Archon to cancell us
Hydro mommy
Trueeee, not the "Find your answers during the journey bs"
Maybe he finally accepted his fate and learned to let go... He matured from what happened.. earning him an anemo vision
imagine they pulled a “umm i can’t tell u cause it’s forbidden knowledge and everything gets fucked up again if i tell u!”
How does griseo apply to genshin lore?
What do you imagine she looks like? I think Marie Antoinette meets Justitia
bye i’ve already predicted fontaine plot
woulda thrown some hands
the fatui r obviously gonna frame us for something
Of course
and we go to court 😭👑
Seelie from Honkai
better call saul
ya this 💀
we’re gonna get another fuckin harbinger appearance
we gon be judged by the hydro archon
hopefully queen arlecchino
and i feel like damselette is gonna make a slight appearance at some point
sing us a little song maybe
I feel that too
Nah Dottore is going into hiding until Sneznaya
dame dane give us columbina already




