#・genshin-spoilers

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final chasm
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as it always does

gleaming zealot
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descenders

umbral vapor
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i didnt know you were supposed to activate the electro ones

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so i was just activating the other ones

gleaming zealot
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  1. Sustainer 2. alice 3.Aloy/sibling 4. Traveller
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or is aloy after traveller and 5

rose geyser
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bosses are getting animation powercrept so hard rn

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went from summoning a whale to dropping a planet

umbral vapor
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ong

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should've let him drop a planet on me ngl i beat his ass up before that

dusty spruce
dusty spruce
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my girl can travel from world to world

safe aspen
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||I think he has amnesia||

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that’s my thought

dusty spruce
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i remember that she can break 4th walls?

gleaming zealot
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alice is confirmed isekai

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comes from elf world

dusty spruce
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i feel she went to the honkai world as well

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so abyss twin is from this world?

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or they became a traveler first then became the abyss prince/princess

gleaming zealot
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most likely the cataclysm changed the world somehow

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and sibling was ther

weary oriole
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What we gonna face the Counselor of the Heavenly Principal or something like that

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Like we have to go through 7 divine beings again

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That's one way Hoyo could pat out the story and make it not boring

umbral vapor
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so much lore

dusty spruce
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this archon quest is full of infos yet questions are still unanswerable

umbral vapor
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does nahida still have her gnosis?

dusty spruce
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and when will they show this??

dusty spruce
umbral vapor
umbral vapor
glass jackal
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Yooo what the heck this is the best archon quest ever

umbral vapor
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the archon quests keep getting better man

safe aspen
umbral vapor
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the only problem i've had with this archon quest is how the subtitles keep being inaccurate to what's being said

dusty spruce
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i hope so

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too many things to clear out

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like what will happen to scara

safe aspen
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yea

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there’s no way 3.3 comes around with no quest and is just like here’s scaramouche with a anemo vision

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an

dusty spruce
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yeah

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like it's a loophole if they do that

final chasm
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alice is a descender?

dusty spruce
final chasm
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the 3rd or 2nd

dusty spruce
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she can travel from worlds

safe aspen
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Most likely

dusty spruce
uneven turret
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why is jp VA the only one that has traveler react to scara falling to the ground lmaoooo

umbral vapor
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deadass thought someone would catch him

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bro literally just died and nobody bothered to check 💀

uneven turret
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its so hilarious, in jp they gasp/sound concerned when he hits the ground but cn and en just dead silence 💀

umbral vapor
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fr

uneven turret
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you can ask nahida about him at the end and she says he's just sleep or something lmao

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but its so funny they dont even go over and check

tender sphinx
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So how come our twin isn’t a descender?

umbral vapor
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dunno

tender sphinx
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Interesting

acoustic saddle
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I think it's the journey

tender sphinx
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I wonder if they’ve become corrupted by the abyss

acoustic saddle
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Slowly becoming like tevyt over x years

tender sphinx
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Yeah could be

uneven turret
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im kind of sad scara's en va didn't go for it more in that final scene

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he held back too much

tender sphinx
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Or the heavenly principles made him “of this world” as a way to control him

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Ngl

uneven turret
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didnt sound desperate enough

tender sphinx
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Traveler and their sibling are not that smart

tender sphinx
safe aspen
nocturne path
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is it just me or does rukka's VA sound like lumine's

uneven turret
tender sphinx
glass jackal
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I will never understand people who hate the sumeru archon quest

uneven turret
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its not that deep

glass jackal
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This has had some of the best pacing in game so far and good character development

tender sphinx
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But like

uneven turret
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no way i believe that

tender sphinx
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I’m so mad at the scary moose

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Imagine

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Imagine being a scary moose lover

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Couldn’t be me

uneven turret
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why wouldn't i be

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he's an interesting character

tender sphinx
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3edgy5me, also he’s a massive douche through the entire story

uneven turret
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ok and theres a reason for him acting like that if you bother reading lore

umbral vapor
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spent 4 hours finishing the archon quest and still not enough for 1 pull 💀

uneven turret
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that sound like ppl who hate on ei without considering her backstory and circumstances

safe aspen
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He grew a god complex 👍

uneven turret
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do ppl really not get this

umbral vapor
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like bro

short laurel
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ikr he suffered alot omg

umbral vapor
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???

tender sphinx
umbral vapor
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im dead 💀

safe aspen
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I mean I guess it’s hard to be sarcastic online

umbral vapor
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it has to be a ridiculously bad opinion to be sarcastic

uneven turret
# safe aspen I didn’t mean it literally 💀

yeah idk a lot of ppl act like scara was just some normal guy who said "i wanna be a god and kill for fun!" one day lol like he basically had a mental and emotional breakdown after a lot of trauma happened to him and all of his asshole behaviour is basically just a defense mechanism/him trying to avoid that pain

tender sphinx
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Ok but seriously: I didn’t like Ei at first either. What made her good was having an actual redemption arc (her second story quest)

umbral vapor
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like saying c6 yelan is garbage

tender sphinx
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The scary douche has not had a redemption arc yet

uneven turret
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just like ei becoming a shut in was a selfish and stupid decision but you can understand it

uneven turret
umbral vapor
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i liked having ei as the main antagonist in inazuma tho ngl

tender sphinx
uneven turret
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its already being hinted at with that convo between him and traveler tbh

tender sphinx
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But so far he’s just acted like a douche

tender sphinx
uneven turret
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he did show some affection towards haypasia and traveler already, just in a very twisted way

tender sphinx
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Will he be uwuified?

short laurel
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for now lets just wait for 3.3 and see what happens there

tender sphinx
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I pulled Ei mostly cause she’s an archon. Her second story quest made her a good character

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Because that shit was actually well written

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Scaramouche hasn’t had that moment yet

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If he does, I’ll change my mind

glass jackal
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Lmaoooo they turned isak into kusa cosplay bahahahahab

short laurel
tender sphinx
umbral vapor
uneven turret
# tender sphinx Will it be an actual redemption arc or just Ei story quest 1?

supposedly (potential leak spoilers?)|| traveler helps him find and restore his memories and i guess we'll get to see his past in detail or something||, so i think it'll be better than "we take scara on a date and he becomes a good guy" hopefully lol, though i think there was more to ei act 1 than that anyways

safe aspen
umbral vapor
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funnier than when nobody checked on him after he fell face first into the ground

tender sphinx
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Honestly first and second story quest should have been combined into one

uneven turret
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it was but i really dont think we'll get that for scara story quest lol

tender sphinx
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Don’t put it past them

safe aspen
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I think for scaramouche story quest we look at his past w him

uneven turret
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maybe but i think they've done a pretty good job showing there's another side to him without making him all uwu so far

safe aspen
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around those lines

uneven turret
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yeah i think it sounds like it could be really good

tender sphinx
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It could, it could also be really bad

safe aspen
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how he’ll get a vision we’ll see

uneven turret
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i prefer to be optimistic for now lol

tender sphinx
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So far the only bit of excellent writing in this game was Ei story quest 2

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Everything else was mid to good

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And sometimes bad

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It’s rarely outright bad

uneven turret
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i think tighnari quest was really good

tender sphinx
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Highkey I bawled my eyes out when makoto

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But that could also be bc Anne yatco is a good va

umbral vapor
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i want an archon quest where someone gets their vision in the middle of it and clutches up somehow

dense forum
safe aspen
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Yea

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That’s why I think there’s more 3.3

uneven turret
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theres supposed to be a sumeru interlude quest in 3.3 so maybe that will feature scara too

safe aspen
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because it will be weird

short laurel
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more lore yes

safe aspen
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When 3.3 comes around and he’s just better with a vision

tender sphinx
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Yk what I want? I wanna see Ei and yae finally confess and get married

dense forum
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but like that would also serve as his story quest no??

tender sphinx
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That could be Ei story quest 3

dense forum
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I hope not

safe aspen
uneven turret
dense forum
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kinda like with shenhe and kazuha

safe aspen
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it seems a bit logical

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Idk like he wakes up and we just take him

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It’s a option that could happen

uneven turret
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theres sumeru interlude + scara story quest. my guess is that he gets his vision during the interlude and then we do his story quest with him. but could be other way around too and we need to do his story quest first to unlock the interlude lol

dense forum
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although the only person who can check up on him is only nahida...

uneven turret
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it would be kind of weird to go straight into his story quest from where he is in the story rn tbh

safe aspen
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When it comes around

dense forum
safe aspen
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yea

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Like he just wakes up

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it can’t really start like that

uneven turret
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right lmao

safe aspen
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If that’s what you mean

uneven turret
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wakes up and traveler suddenly decides to help him

safe aspen
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Yea

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hey could bring kusanali into this

dense forum
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My guess is he'll loose his memories and start a new era of his life ig

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then the traveller will strat seeing him in the new light

safe aspen
dense forum
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I mean like damn that fall,,,

safe aspen
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He hit his head kinda hard

uneven turret
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im guessing he loses his memories but then traveler helps him get them back in his story quest.

safe aspen
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Yeaa

safe aspen
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Oh yea

short laurel
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i also heard sum things from my friend saying maybe Ei would be in his story quest

dense forum
safe aspen
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Welp

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We said basically the same thing

uneven turret
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im guessing traveler will see a different side to him while helping him and maybe develop some kind of bond with him, and then even after he gets his memories back he'll probably be grateful for that and remember it and then thats how he ends up playable

weary oriole
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The lore bomb oh god

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What are descenders???

short laurel
weary oriole
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And why are we the only 4th ever descenders

umbral vapor
short laurel
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basically ppls from another world ig?

dense zodiac
safe aspen
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Odds of scaramouche remembering his dark past

uneven turret
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yeah if we see ei its probably going to be in his memories

safe aspen
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what would happen

dense zodiac
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so we’re the 4th ppl who arent from teyvat

weary oriole
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Who are the other 3????

umbral vapor
naive dawn
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finished archon quest aaaa

weary oriole
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And its not even our siblings

dense forum
dense zodiac
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would be lumine and….

safe aspen
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People said alice

weary oriole
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Our siblings don't count as descenders only we are

umbral vapor
naive dawn
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sumeru archon quest arc good

dense zodiac
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ahh

umbral vapor
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for whatever reason our sibling isnt a descender for reasons unknown

dense zodiac
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oh really

dense forum
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sheesh

naive dawn
umbral vapor
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yes

umbral vapor
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it's not a concept it's a person

short laurel
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they did say she was not from teyvat

naive dawn
uneven turret
umbral vapor
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i thought that was the case but it isnt with the lore bomb saying this

naive dawn
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the heavenly principles is a concept and that god we met is merely it's "sustainer"

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in a sense they are "ideals" of this world decreed by celestia it seems

short laurel
dense forum
short laurel
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obv y

umbral vapor
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well the heavenly principles is the god we fought according to nahida

naive dawn
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I just finished the quest

umbral vapor
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with the threat to awaken them and in her dialogue later on after that

short laurel
naive dawn
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actually nahida is still in front of me rn

glass jackal
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I love how the sumeru cast were the main characters in the archon quest - they all did so many important parts

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I love it I love this archon quest

naive dawn
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ikr

umbral vapor
short laurel
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i love it too omg

umbral vapor
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and they're a descender as well

naive dawn
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she said its an "entity"

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Im also listening in CN

short laurel
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wait btw da traveler's twin isnt a descender right?

umbral vapor
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whatever she calls it, it's whoever we fought in the very beginning if im not mistaken

umbral vapor
naive dawn
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she didnt say "entity" in CN lmfao

short laurel
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ic

short laurel
fathom oriole
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im hoping they dont make scara nice all of a sudden, i want his voice lines to be at least a little bitchy

naive dawn
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"dont you remember... what changed your fate at the beginning... the heavenly principles"

short laurel
umbral vapor
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no clue why they'd name them like that but that's how it is

fathom oriole
umbral vapor
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confusing asf

naive dawn
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in CN "heavenly principles" is referred to by 天理

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its a way of saying "ways of the sky" kind of

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with 天 meaning sky and 理 roughly being able to be understood as "principles" ig

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Now in chinese 天 is generallyu associated with heaven or whatever related to that

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eg

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heaven in chinese is “天堂“ or "sky room/chamber/place of worship"

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So no nahida did not call the heavenly principles a specific god or entity, just merely something that changed the traveller's fate

tender sphinx
naive dawn
short laurel
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my friend would die if dat happened rlly

tender sphinx
short laurel
tender sphinx
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They’re connected

short laurel
tender sphinx
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Scara simps for us so we take him to Inazoomer where he meets Ei and with a bit of encouragement from yae they fall in love and get married

short laurel
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my shiping senses r tingling but that'll cause controversy rlly

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sniff twitter

tender sphinx
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And the next story quest is marriage counseling cause shogun bot doesn’t like 3rd wheeling so they decide to be polyamorous and include her

peak badge
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omg 5 star bow

frank epoch
short laurel
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genshin twitter will go rogue

fathom oriole
short laurel
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nyways

tender sphinx
short laurel
tender sphinx
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But they got divorced

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So ganyu’s with childe now

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But childe is abusive

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So she needs hu Tao for counseling

short laurel
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😀 huh

tender sphinx
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And shenhe is just an alcoholic

fathom oriole
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hell no, ganyu's a lesbian 😊

tender sphinx
short laurel
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i sense it sniff shiff controversy

fathom oriole
tender sphinx
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But I got nothing against masc lesbians

short laurel
tender sphinx
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Childe is beautiful… and when he broke of ganyu’s horn and uhh

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It was a sign of true love

short laurel
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wait...

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omg

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i cannot handle this

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i just realized sumthing from dat

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not again\

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n

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no

tender sphinx
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It’s canon I saw a comic about it

frank epoch
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all are part of trvalers harem one and only truth

short laurel
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😭

tender sphinx
short laurel
tender sphinx
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Kusanali is excluded from this party, for obvious reasons

frank epoch
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i love how nahida effortlessly defeats scara after all that work to be a god

tender sphinx
polar forge
short laurel
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we luv nahida

fathom oriole
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im kinda upset after the scara boss fight literally nothing happens and they dont show him at all 💀 like he just falls to the floor and boom next scene

short laurel
tender sphinx
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I will not slander Nahidia

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But really

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Zhongli and makoto had the cutest kid

fathom oriole
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ik

short laurel
frank epoch
tender sphinx
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That’s why Ei is so angry, cause she wanted to be with Zhongli cause of his pillars, but he was c0 and couldn’t have 2 for both of them

short laurel
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me still sad but its alright

fathom oriole
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they showed like 0 concern and never showed him after the fight

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kinda sloppy idk

old lodge
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as they should

tender sphinx
short laurel
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:(

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i mean

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after what he did ig its y?

old lodge
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i mean they shouldve stabbed him in the back while he is down smh

tender sphinx
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Yeah I hope he gets redeemed and then marries ei

short laurel
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:(

tender sphinx
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That would be so cute

fathom oriole
tender sphinx
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Scaramouche

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Marries

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Ei

fathom oriole
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leave.

violet briar
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Wtf

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Alabama

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Fr

short laurel
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omg

old lodge
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alright another one on the block list

fathom oriole
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fr

safe aspen
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Oh yea what does it mean when the gnosis are “laws”

short laurel
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sweet home alabama

fathom oriole
tender sphinx
old lodge
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nice troll attempt tho

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6/10

safe aspen
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💀

fathom oriole
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3/10

violet briar
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💀

safe aspen
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0/10

violet briar
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Wtf am I reading

short laurel
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uhhhhhh its a theory of mine but gnosis r like prison cells n the archons r the prisoners trapped by the law

tender sphinx
short laurel
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something mankind cannot look

old lodge
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when scara dies

violet briar
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Has anyone finished the new archon quest

tender sphinx
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Like just a straight up playable gnosis

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Not an archon

fathom oriole
tender sphinx
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Just the fucking gnosis itself

short laurel
violet briar
tender sphinx
old lodge
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best archon quest so far

tender sphinx
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Busy descending rn

fathom oriole
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it was good, way better than the rest

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i give it an 8

violet briar
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Yea thought the same

old lodge
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i give it 10/5

violet briar
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I give it a 10

short laurel
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its rlly good i give it a 9/10

tender sphinx
fathom oriole
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the other sumeru archon quests sucked, i really liked this one

violet briar
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It was appealing, had the ending we wanted and also massive info giver

old lodge
old lodge
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what are you gonna tell us next? liyue exploration is the best?

violet briar
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They milked inazuma

tender sphinx
violet briar
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Too much

short laurel
tender sphinx
violet briar
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So we may see more of that

old lodge
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😔

violet briar
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In 3.3 maybe

prisma bluff
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the scene where it panned out to every major character in sumeru kinda hyped me up tbh that aq was 11/10

tender sphinx
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In 3.3

violet briar
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3.4 has sumeru expansion

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And 3.6

tender sphinx
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We will see

old lodge
violet briar
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3.5 is traveler quest

tender sphinx
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Clearly

old lodge
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w

ancient sable
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HOW LONG IS 3.2 ARCHON QUEST? sorry for caps

short laurel
tender sphinx
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Also enkanomiya has the best npcs when the lights are on

fathom oriole
violet briar
fathom oriole
violet briar
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If taken lightly

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And nice

short laurel
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ye it long

tender sphinx
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I hope we get an actual Genshin dating sim

fathom oriole
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i started at like 10 and its almost 2 am and im still getting through the end of the dialogue 💀

violet briar
short laurel
frank epoch
tender sphinx
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Imagine taking nilou on a date

violet briar
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We don’t need no stupid dating sim

old lodge
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2hr if you blitz thru the cutscenes

tender sphinx
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And then halfway through she gets murdered by ayaka

old lodge
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💀

short laurel
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sniff controversy sniff

fathom oriole
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anyone else just ignoring zuzu at this point LMAO

violet briar
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😭

fathom oriole
violet briar
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They say so much random and dumb stuff

old lodge
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screams please give me attention

short laurel
fathom oriole
short laurel
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i believe so

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scratch dat yes

tender sphinx
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Hey hey

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Ganyu’s horn and childe

violet briar
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No

peak badge
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amogus

violet briar
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amongus

dusk meadow
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does anyone remember the name of the hydro archon revealed

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it was with f

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it started with letter f

peak badge
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i wonder what this means

tender sphinx
dusk meadow
smoky sphinx
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what happened to scara

safe aspen
smoky sphinx
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poor man

safe aspen
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Kusanali will tell you as one of the options at the end of the quest

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mhm

smoky sphinx
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ohh alr cool

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itll take me a while to get there prob cuz im still on the 2nd story quest

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💀

safe aspen
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I see

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have fun during the quest

smoky sphinx
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tyy

safe aspen
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These quest lately have been really good

smoky sphinx
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yeah

sour jewel
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No more archon quest next patch ?

safe aspen
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Personally I think there is more

sour jewel
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How so?

safe aspen
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But I don’t know

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Uh scaramouche

clever iron
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i give the archon quest 8.9/10

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it is good

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interesting that the sibling is not considered one of the four descenders

sour jewel
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Probably but i dont think he deserves a archon quest just dedicated to him when the main conflict in sumeru has ended

safe aspen
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Mm

clever iron
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and the primordial one and heavenly principles might be the same thing?

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unless principles arrived before primordial one

glass jackal
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They really brought back the sky being fake from 1.1

uneven turret
glass jackal
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Rip all the lore people missed

uneven turret
glass jackal
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And the thing was it was believable

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The fact that it wasn’t just traveler but people from the highest echelons of the akademiya - the matra, the scribe - powerful people with access and advantages who also felt disillusioned by the system

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Love ittt

weary oriole
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same omg

glass jackal
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Imagine inazuma was actually written like this

weary oriole
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traveler being the fourth descender

glass jackal
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Easily sumeru had the best archon quest ever

weary oriole
weary oriole
glass jackal
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Idk I honestly think this was the first quest that had so much depth in it - it felt like they covered all their bases really well

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I can’t believe the same game also gave us the inazuma and Liyue archon quests hahaha

umbral vapor
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keeps getting better

potent nimbus
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anyone know how to break balladeer things shield

umbral vapor
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use the mechanic

potent nimbus
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the floating thingy?

umbral vapor
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ya

potent nimbus
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how do I charge it

umbral vapor
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i dont know exactly what attacks but after those attacks it'll drop crystal stuff

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and u can tp to it to collect it

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at max charge u can aim a huge projectile for bigger shield dmg

potent nimbus
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ooo ok TYSM :D

long gorge
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i just finished the archon quest

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my god, the way things paid off and how they set future plot points up.. they really took their time, damn

hard fox
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but the boss fight was not it, my raiden died when that big ball of electro hit the groundA_HuCry

long gorge
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i got an achievement for that one too lmao

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that Electro nuke was amazing

weary oriole
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Chad Nahida

long gorge
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i'm glad they made her a boss at negotiating

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that was an amazing scene

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deadass bluffed her way to destroy the No. 2 Fatui Harbinger's segments

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lmao

ember knot
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bruh ||"top-ranked futui harbingers, up to no.3 possess powers comparable to that of a god". so i guess pierro, dottore, and columbina are actual fucking menaces||

long gorge
ember knot
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also theres 2 more ||descenders... other than the traveler and sustainer||

hallow path
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aloy

long gorge
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sorry, do i need to spoiler tag myself in the spoiler channel? lemme know if i misread the rules.. my bad if i did

old lodge
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no

long gorge
#

oh okay, thank you friend

old lodge
#

np brother

tulip hearth
#

Im happy that the robot is still with TighnariE_RaidenHeart

idle arch
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Like how 3.1 introduced Scaramouche to new people

silver spade
sick fable
clever iron
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dottore is hot

sick fable
#

precisely why i am trying to get closer to him

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😔

pulsar lintel
#

Wait did they take away scaramouche's memories after the quest tho

silver spade
quick chasm
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ijust love this view

summer locust
#

Ok the info about traveler's sibling literally sent me upside down and confused af

tawdry blade
#

Yea,it still unclear

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But my theory is the sibling got brainwash to become the leader, making the sibling become teyvat "people "

silver spade
silver spade
tawdry blade
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I wonder if the other 2 descender died or not

summer locust
clever iron
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why did we record our thoughts in a capsule

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still no idea what that was for

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and how did alhaitham survive divine knowledge

gray raven
#

so

worthy forge
# clever iron and how did alhaitham survive divine knowledge

Okay I'll answer this in order.
)We recorded our thoughts to be able to swap out the knowledge capsule that's supposed to go in the akasha so we could feed false info that Nahida escaped.
)He didn't actually use the divine knowledge capsule. He purposefully dropped it and made it look like he had used it with his advanced model of an akasha terminal.

clever iron
#

nice

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alhaitham truly is gigabrained

slate agate
#

Now kiss

sour jewel
#

Why do they still call kusanali lesser lord when the greater lord never existed

violet briar
#

They only forgot the greater lord’s name but not lesser lord

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Basically greater lord was never a name to begin with for them

sour jewel
#

I mean the title lesser lord is kinda an insult

umbral vapor
#

gg?

sour jewel
#

SoHP = Primordial one?

midnight jolt
#

Havent done archon quest at all, just curious
Do we get to use the elevator in the middle od the big shelf room in akademiya in the archon quest?

empty wagon
#

Yes

slate agate
#

So many characters in one scene

tawdry blade
#

Yeah

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Unlike inazuma with ayaka not appearing in the quest

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Or celebrate in the end

silver spade
#

Kinda disappointed that cyno didn't say a single jokes on the archons quest

dense forum
#

can someone explain what exactly is happening with scaramouche and abt everyone forgetting about greater lord?

silver spade
dense forum
#

ig I kinda understand scaramouches situation but idk with greater lord

weary oriole
clever iron
#

she dead

deft rose
stable glen
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ah shucks, i completely forgot to try to use nahida's thought reading skill during the feast. was it possible?

tawdry blade
#

No

slate agate
#

ISTW THEY BETTER LET US FIGHT SAGES

tawdry blade
leaden burrow
tawdry blade
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Or nahida edit people memory

leaden burrow
#

Nope.

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The curing of what-it’s-called Tree meant the complete erasure of the Greater Lord’s existence as she was tied to it.

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The erasure of the Great Lord’s existence meant the history was edited so Nahida was Sumeru’s “only” Archon.

late osprey
#

Where is the balladeer rn in the story LMAOOO is he still passed out in the akademiya

left shore
#

What happen to the Dendro Gnosis?

leaden burrow
leaden burrow
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The Electro Gnosis was traded for Dottore to destroy his other copies.
The Dendro Gnosis was traded for “the sky is fake” thing

viscid harness
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How to destroy those mechanisms furing scaramouche spirit bomb? I didnt bring bow users or catalysts earlier and my atks cant seem to hit the flying ones. Should i bring aoe/catalyst/bows??

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Not sur eif this is the correct channel to ask this tho hahaah but also dun wanna spoil others

leaden burrow
#

I just forced my way through Phase 1 cuz I don’t know what I was supposed to do after thinking I was supposed to use the Fat Chub to damage him.

stable glen
#

he got completely erased by yoimiya and her new bow. so much for being a "god"

meager galleon
#

Isnt it irony that nahida traded the electro gnosis for dottore's copies to be destroyed which reminds us of ei's little experiment with puppets, and the dendro gnosis for wisdom C_HuPepeSmile

leaden burrow
#

We trading the Electro Gnosis left and right lmfao.

abstract wing
#

Am I tripping? I think they said that forbidden knowledge couldnt be eradicated? How did Grtr Lord Ruk's sacrifice eradicate the forbidden knowledge?

leaden burrow
#

First Yae traded it off for the Traveler’s life, and now Nahida traded it off for some robots to be destroyed.

weary oriole
#

yeah 😭

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and not to mention how she also traded her dendro gnosis off too A_HuCry

gloomy spruce
#

Is alice also similar to traveller as there are only 3 memebers aside from traveller

slate agate
#

Waiting for someone to make the "Mom can we have Dendro Archon > We have Dendro Archon at home > Dendro Archon at home" meme

weary oriole
#

i thought the brother would have been considered a descender too

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but apparently not

leaden burrow
#

Can we talk about how chubby and cute this little shit is??

leaden burrow
weary oriole
#

yeah

leaden burrow
#

For Aether choosers, Lumine isn’t a Descender.

weary oriole
#

yeah no, sorry, i play as lumine so i got used to it

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but u get what i mean so

gloomy spruce
#

Isn't istaroth the descendants as well

weary oriole
#

uhhh not sure

leaden burrow
weary oriole
#

nahida said the traveler’s the 4th descendent

leaden burrow
#

We don’t know about the second and third though.

weary oriole
#

so means she could be wrong

leaden burrow
weary oriole
#

did they give dottore a face lift?

weary oriole
leaden burrow
weary oriole
#

Great for him

gloomy spruce
#

Istaroth(god of time mentioned by yae or ei in archon quest)
Heavenly principles (the one that trapped traveller in cube)
Alice
Traveller
I think these are the 4 descendants might be wrong

weary oriole
#

hmmm

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its possible

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||wait so guys is the dendro gnosis now in dottore's hands too??||

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||first he exchanged all copies and erased them for the electro gnosis||

weary oriole
#

||then he shared something dark and deep with nahida for the dendro gnosis?||

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nahida said she traded her gnosis for the descendant information

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||that was the deal , but we never saw her handing it over||

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i think

wide harness
#

The 4 descenders reminds me of the 4 shining shades created by the primordial one

weary oriole
#

hm

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so the forbidden knowledge is that concerning the abyss

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which is why celestia wanted to destroy khanreiah

gloomy spruce
weary oriole
#

rukkadevata said it herself

dense forum
#

imagine if dajnslief is one of the descendants

weary oriole
wide harness
leaden burrow
#

Wait a minute.

weary oriole
#

cause they came before us technically

weary oriole
dense forum
leaden burrow
#

Where did the Anemo and Geo gnoses go though? Did Signora give them to Tsaritsa immediately after getting them or did she kept them on her before she died??

weary oriole
#

according to dottore

wide harness
weary oriole
wide harness
#

The descenders was supposed to be not from this world i think?

leaden burrow
weary oriole
weary oriole
#

and the akasha only doesnt have information on descenders

weary oriole
# leaden burrow Damn.

bc the trailer shows the anemo and geo with the fatui
so before signora went for the electro gnosis , she gave the anemo to the tsaritsa

and geo gnosis easily goes to them (also by signora) as a part of contract

wide harness
#

It makes me question more about the opening cutscene

weary oriole
#

oops

wide harness
#

Why did the abyss sibling gain the light element even tho she is from teyvat

weary oriole
wide harness
weary oriole
#

so if he was from tevyat then why would the god call them ''outlanders''

violet briar
weary oriole
#

so abyss sibling is adopted sibling ?

#

nice.

violet briar
#

Since he is on the same power with celestia

weary oriole
violet briar
#

He may be able to give powers

#

Like celestia does with visions

weary oriole
#

light

violet briar
#

Aether is the Light God

gloomy spruce
#

At this time we can't confirm anything sure but the traveller is missing a lot of his memories

violet briar
#

Controlling the Light and Stars

weary oriole
#

alot to think about

#

but there’s no way the sibling is from teyvat

#

because well, the unknown god called both siblings outlanders

wide harness
#

Wait

violet briar
#

We will have to see in the next traveler quest

wide harness
#

When did the irminsul appeared

violet briar
#

I am sure the traveller will question dain about this

weary oriole
# weary oriole but there’s no way the sibling is from teyvat

literally
nahida says that the irminsul has memories of the sibling hence they are from tevyat

but that logic is FLAWED
bc the sibling came five hundred years ago before us , so they defintely stayed in tevyat for a long while till everything fell apart
and since they stayed , hence the irminsul has memories of it

weary oriole
#

but what’s weird is that the traveler did so many notable things in teyvat yet somehow irminsul doesn’t have anything about the traveler? 😭

weary oriole
#

or seek it

#

dunno, nahida said there’s no information on us A_HuCry

#

this whole archon quest is mind boggling

#

I mean , even the fatui knows all our feats in monstadt , liyue , inazuma and sumeru
inferring that they take this information from the irminsul

violet briar
#

Yep

wide harness
weary oriole
#

that is but a possibility that makes sense

violet briar
weary oriole
#

which is why dottore immediately recognizes the traveller

weary oriole
#

you could tell he was inching to just get it that the wires almost detached

summer locust
wide harness
violet briar
#

Can’t say he didn’t

weary oriole
violet briar
#

He didn’t even have any emotional reaction towards it

weary oriole
violet briar
#

Only anger

#

He cares about no one

summer locust
violet briar
#

Only him

weary oriole
weary oriole
#

so that was kinda sad

violet briar
#

Meh

summer locust
violet briar
#

His sadness will be cured soon

weary oriole
#

he just buried away his emotions bc of his past experiences
his main aim was just revenge against the gods

gloomy spruce
#

I felt the way he feel

violet briar
#

Every depressed person becomes anemo

weary oriole
#

fr

summer locust
#

Can I just some assume ppl who chatting here now has finished the current archon quest right?

gloomy spruce
#

He already has anemo vision right or will he get after this archon quest

weary oriole
weary oriole
#

but ive been spoiled so its fine

wide harness
weary oriole
#

i only have the last part left

meager galleon
#

I havent but I watched videos of it and im hooked

summer locust
summer locust
weary oriole
weary oriole
#

We finally can enter cat's tail

©GI FRONT

#

Weee

wide harness
weary oriole
#

it made me cry when I realized everyone actually forgot rukkadevata

#

except the traveller

wide harness
#

Everybody forgor

weary oriole
#

so basically only the descendants remember

meager galleon
#

How about raiden

#

Zhon

#

Zhongli*

wide harness
#

They can also forgor

meager galleon
#

Ow

summer locust
weary oriole
#

According to leaks, cat's tail will be accessible in 3.3 as well

weary oriole
# weary oriole even nahida forgot

its just sad
Imagine living your whole life for such a noble purpose
fighting and protecting people
but bc of complications , all of you , your existence and everything you did , is suddenly forgotten
somehow it feels scary being that person

#

Together with the new TCG

summer locust
#

What I am annoyed is that what is Rukkhadevata's demonic name!??

#

I was hoping Nahida called her real name.

gloomy spruce
#

I think they both share the same name

weary oriole
#

oh yeah, why was nahida called buer by scaramouche and rukkhadevata?

#

am i missing something A_CryLaughTao

#

yeah im wondering that too

meager galleon
#

Isnt nahida basically rukkha's child tho

weary oriole
#

i think it means ''junior me'' or ''protototype'' or ''new me''

#

nahida IS rukkhadevata

meager galleon
summer locust
weary oriole
#

they are different people

#

she is though

#

Yeah no yeah

#

but like

weary oriole
#

rukkha said nahida was a part of her

gloomy spruce
#

They are different people came from the same existence

meager galleon
#

Rukkhadevata is the irminsul, nahida is just the best branch plucked out of it and made into...nahida

weary oriole
#

hmm

#

i guess

summer locust
#

Rukkha's line said "You are me, I am you" so kinda make them both 50/50 imo.

weary oriole
#

its only been a day and you guys understood so much ,, im glad

meager galleon
#

Identity fraud

weary oriole
#

does not mean they are the same beings entirely

snow crown
#

i’m so confused about the descenders

weary oriole
#

My theory is that they are like plants with the same species... Nahida is only a seed and once she grew she will look like rukkha... Maybe that's why rukkha and nahida looks the same

snow crown
#

is the first descender the same person who killed the seven sovereigns

weary oriole
#

imagine elysia turns out to be a descender and thats how they introduce her into genshin

meager galleon
#

i dont think we just have 4?

#

Unless...

snow crown
#

loads of outlanders

#

like a shit ton😭

weary oriole
#

nahida herself wasn’t sure, iirc

snow crown
#

she needa work double time cause i got questions

weary oriole
#

she hypothesised it was the heavenly principles tho

snow crown
#

the fifth descender being queen aloy 👑😭

meager galleon
#

We only got heavenly principles, i mean she just plopped into teyvat and made celestia and traveler as confirmed

weary oriole
#

that is why i said nahida is made from rukkadevata
but they are different people

like how a child is born from the parent's skin
but the parent and child are differnet people

snow crown
#

asexual reproduction maybe?

weary oriole
#

Nahida is the branch of Rukkha... From how i understood

snow crown
#

that’s the closest thing i can think of

weary oriole
weary oriole
summer locust
#

The way they mentioned heavenly principles sounded like one group of beings went down instead of one individual but I might be wrong on this. Reminds me of the Primordial God with 4 shades from Enka.

weary oriole
#

Yeah they were not replicated but duplicated... Exact copy with two different consciousness

meager galleon
#

I wonder how nahida would even destroy the gnosis

weary oriole
snow crown
#

it would make more sense for the second and third descenders to be the first and second ones who came

weary oriole
#

remind me never to unlock story quests again

snow crown
#

cause their lore is interlinked and makes sense for nahida to know about neither

summer locust
weary oriole
#

In short, nahida is a clone...?

snow crown
#

more like

#

a baby

summer locust
weary oriole
snow crown
#

made from their mother

#

without a daddy

meager galleon
#

Not really

snow crown
#

that’s the closest human comparison

summer locust
#

Is like groot

weary oriole
#

i

weary oriole
snow crown
#

if we’re being literal she’s like rukkas hand being cut off and growing into her child

weary oriole
snow crown
snow crown
#

oh also anyone who’s done nahida story quest does she mention the false sky again

weary oriole
#

Scaramouche is so annoying and edgy

snow crown
#

cause i’m having withdrawals i’ve been waiting for info on it for literal years

weary oriole
#

Like groot... Really

hallow path
weary oriole
snow crown
gloomy spruce
meager galleon
weary oriole
#

paimon is useless lmao

weary oriole
#

I had no idea what i did during the scara boss fight in the archon quest A_CryLaughTao

weary oriole
#

I just blundered through fighting him and it worked

#

please no

snow crown
#

i kinda hope they retcon all the sovereign and first and second ones who came lore cause it’s gonna get real confusing again really quickly

weary oriole
hallow path
#

Is the scara mech difficult for any of you

snow crown
weary oriole
snow crown
#

i think that’s what’s gonna be the identifier when we meet the next descender

#

they’re gonna mention her and travellers gonna be all

weary oriole
#

Someone here earlier said that aloy is the third descender... It kinda makes sense

#

but other than that , they made scara boss easy because hes in an archon quest and everyone needs to pass from it

hallow path
hard nova
weary oriole
hard nova
#

I legitimately hate scara

hallow path
#

It's so unfortunate we have a new reason to even talk about aloy /j

lunar socket
#

Rukka had to obliterate herself because she got tainted by forbidden knowledge.

Nahida, five minutes later: lol I gonna trade my gnosis for some forbidden knowledge.

hallow path
#

anyone but her

weary oriole
hard nova
#

I was so happy that scara got what he deserved. I loved how he went out begging like a little kid

snow crown
#

the whole sibling not being a descender thing also makes me scared for the time travel theories

hallow path
#

Maybe no one (even the fatui) cares about her which is why she might not be listed as the 3rd descender

snow crown
#

it’s my worst fear

#

time travel is always the worst concept to add i hate it so much i’m begging

weary oriole
#

What scara did was pathetic... Tbh

#

Time Travel makes me every story go to shi— so I wanna see what happens lmao

#

yeah im still wondering how the sibling isnt a descender

#

Yeah yeah enough dialogue I wanna beat Scaramouche now

hallow path
#

I just wanna beat up scara man

meager galleon
weary oriole
#

They don’t have scara’s splash art… I’m in despair

#

And to top that... Scaramouche is just another successful and failed experiment of Dottore...

hard nova
#

I can’t believe they are making him playable

#

If I ever do co op, I’ll leave if I see a scara

weary oriole
snow crown
#

which dottore voice did u think was the web toon one

#

surely the last one right

#

whiny bitch voice fits

weary oriole
hard nova
#

I can’t believe people are down bad for him. Like get some standards

weary oriole
hard nova
#

His design is ugly, his personality is ugly

hallow path
#

He's a RAT

weary oriole
meager galleon
weary oriole
#

Yes he made him a god but Scaramouche wasn't able to accomplish his goals... He was blinded by his emotions once again

#

I found my tripe

snow crown
#

traveler and nahida destroying elezar is the equivalent of curing cancer me thinks

weary oriole
weary oriole
hard nova
#

Yeah Raiden was smart for casting him aside

weary oriole
#

so many questions

hard nova
#

Yae had the right idea to kill scara

weary oriole
#

Childe and signora are far more mature harbinger than scara

#

I hope they’ll be answered in the fontaine archon quests

hallow path
#

They backpaddled so hard with dunyazard dying in the 2nd archon quest I'm so fucking livid

weary oriole
#

Due to their thinking...

hard nova
summer locust
hard nova
#

I like what they did

weary oriole
hallow path
#

oh well shouldve stayed dead tbh

#

There's like zero emotional weight in this game

snow crown
#

so essentially the three canon descenders rn are heavenly principles girl, primordial one, and the second who came

meager galleon
#

Nahida story quest act 2...this time we get dottore boss fight

hard nova
#

They should have given Scara the Signora treatment

hallow path
#

^^^^^^^^

weary oriole
#

I think she just died cause of covid

snow crown
#

also we can all agree inazuma quest needs a redo cause sumeru proved they know how to do it😭

weary oriole
# hard nova Yeah Raiden was smart for casting him aside

she only cast him aside bc his body wasnt powerful enough
she never saw him as a son or her child in the first place , just a puppet
for example , ei does not consider raiden shogun as her daughter , she is just a ruler in her stead

so the whole point of scara understanding raiden's arctions from a different angle is wrong but you cannot blame him
he did not have anyone to rely on except his creator , hence he saw her as a mother

#

It's clear that traveler siblings are both from a civilization far stronger than anyone down in teyvat

hard nova
meager galleon
weary oriole
snow crown
meager galleon
#

And thats also why orobashi was killed wasnt it, and its a god

hallow path
#

scara craves praise and validation he's walter white the edgier edition

hard nova
meager galleon
#

no exceptions

summer locust
snow crown
#

before it was zhonglis stupid contract

#

now we got forbidden knowledge

hallow path
#

this game's story is heavily marred by the format of the game itself

snow crown
#

can’t tell you until the plot is ready for it !

weary oriole
#

i’m glad nahida actually told us information 😭

#

i thought she was gonna pull a zhongli or raiden

#

Nahida: the only useful archon

hallow path
#

They could hire a lot of famous writers and they wouldn't still be able to fix the story

weary oriole
#

and say she cant tell us because of a contract or because she was absent

abstract wing
#

Hello, I'm new to this specific channel, I checked it out becoz the latest Archon Quest was the most intriguing so far. Anyways, I have weird question. How often do people talk about or make assumptions/comparisons with "Honkai" and "Griseo" here when discussing the story/archon quests?

weary oriole
#

I cant wait for the Hydro Archon to cancell us

hard nova
summer locust
weary oriole
#

Maybe he finally accepted his fate and learned to let go... He matured from what happened.. earning him an anemo vision

snow crown
meager galleon
weary oriole
snow crown
snow crown
#

the fatui r obviously gonna frame us for something

weary oriole
#

Of course

snow crown
#

and we go to court 😭👑

hallow path
#

better call saul

weary oriole
snow crown
#

we’re gonna get another fuckin harbinger appearance

weary oriole
#

we gon be judged by the hydro archon

snow crown
#

hopefully queen arlecchino

#

and i feel like damselette is gonna make a slight appearance at some point

#

sing us a little song maybe

weary oriole
#

Perhaps we’ll see dottore in fontaine

#

dunno

meager galleon
#

I feel that too

weary oriole
#

Damn

#

Selette

hard nova
#

Nah Dottore is going into hiding until Sneznaya

hallow path
#

dame dane give us columbina already