・anime

[quasi plinth]

felt like they did a gurren lagann wanna be in the end

sorry ditf fans i've exposed myself

[topaz linden]

Yeah, the robot grandpa one (Inuyashiki)

https://tenor.com/view/bank-inuyashiki-anime-gif-11525303

I remember it being pretty good

think it went a bit under the radar/underappreciated cause of the CGI tho

that generally do be how it goes

[tropic shale]

Same

I have found one of my people

[full oriole]

i

[coral gyro]

what anime is this

[tropic shale]

demon girl next door

[mighty cape]

[plain orchid]

The problem with ditf is it really good 02 is pog visuals are good the story is also good just they fked the ending soo badly that you can't even believe it how tf they were able to achieve it

Has anyone completed grand blue?

[tropic shale]

Sounds like domekano

[hard star]

[jagged stone]

yeah i get u

[coral gyro]

tysm

[ember cairn]

https://youtu.be/s-9ASSbqAbU

[zenith temple]

short hair Horikita

[zenith temple]

bro-con

[red axle]

Daki looking good in anime ver aaa

[chrome escarp]

Miyukichi ❤️

[red axle]

Im surprised she's voicing her 😭💜

[chrome escarp]

Yeah, love her voice

Wish she will be invited on the radio

Cant wait

[shadow knot]

coming soon yes

[mighty cape]

what ?

[clear pawn]

I'm at peace 🥺

[shadow knot]

oh that's from the teaser

during mappa livestream

[azure sinew]

does anyone recommend blue period ? I believe it has a manga

[ember cairn]

dude, i'm fucking dying

[hardy wadi]

yo im literally about to ball my eyes out ||Draken just died and he's literally been my favorite character since I started TR I cant do this shit anymore 😭 || Tokyo Revengers ch 223

[shadow knot]

They should've stopped after Tenjiku arc bruh

Takebitchy ||wants to save Mikey now?? foh Draken got clapped and he's also my fav too||

^ ch 223 spoilers too

[hardy wadi]

||I didnt like the random guy who came in like "Yes I am your secret long lost brother who hates you!" There was barely any foreshadowing for him and it felt like he was just written in existance and got a full backstory that should've been at least a little foreshadowed earlier on in the series if he was gonna be such a big villain. It did feel like the author was winging a few parts and I do agree he should have left some stuff out||

[shadow knot]

Yeah it would've been nice if they developed that early on

like at least give some info during Black Dragons arc

[hardy wadi]

In defense of Takeshitty, he wanted to save everyone and that includes Mikey ig too. Id be satisfied with an ending where Takemitchy sacrifices himself to have ALL of them, including Mikey, to get the good ending.

[hardy wadi]

frrrr

[shadow knot]

It's funny because if he wants to save everyone ||he kinda failed assuming Draken dies|| LMAO

They might do an asspull ||for Draken|| ngl, but if they actually kept it true then I got no words

It'd be interesting

[hardy wadi]

FR LMAO thats why he has gotta sacrifice himself. It also feels like this "Wow I can see into the future now too!" was a major dues ex machina

[shadow knot]

Yeah they only hinted on that ability during the ||Kisaki chase|| in the Tenjiku arc

[hardy wadi]

||considering we got like a full chapter of flashback and "Im on my way Emma" it doesn't seem like they're just gonna pull an asspull. As much as I want Draken to live, it'd be bad writing for him to just come back||

[shadow knot]

still feels like a huge deus ex machina I 100% agree

[hardy wadi]

true true, recently just started reading again to get caught up so I forgot a bit

[shadow knot]

yeah it'd be for the best

[hardy wadi]

TR has always felt like its been milking things tbh

[shadow knot]

It had good peaks but it's pretty formulaic

[hardy wadi]

my thoughts exactly

[humble gulch]

Nani?

[topaz linden]

a five second google of "sleepy princess in demon castle season 2 release date" says that they havent even announced production of a second season, so I'm gonna say no...

[shadow knot]

LMFAO I asked my friends if I can skip Gintama episodes

[azure sinew]

hanako!

this feature is fun.. now I can have many hanako manga pfps

[craggy kettle]

can't believe Baal turned into a demon smh

[red axle]

LMAO SJSJSJS

[elfin needle]

Favorite song
https://youtu.be/roh_p2l8DHo

[olive rover]

haha is that anime good?

[mighty cape]

idk didn't checked tho

[plain orchid]

Yep coming soon

[shadow sleet]

moonlit fantasy s2 WHEN

[proper lantern]

Romcom anime recommendations?

[stark river]

deez nuts

[proper lantern]

That’s so unfunny

I feel bad for you

[jagged stone]

thoughts on mha season 5?!

[shadow sleet]

Kaguya sama if you havent watched it yet

[shadow knot]

https://youtu.be/oIBZjyWIGng

Lets fucking go Omoinotake

I only got qualms for the production, but other than that Blue Period is worth picking up

[delicate portal]

https://tenor.com/view/pervert-go-away-no-atop-gif-9984789

anyone know which anime this is from?

[humble gulch]

Pretty good imo
More enjoyable than s1

[jagged stone]

imo better than s4 lol

also when jjk s2

[humble gulch]

Agreed
S4 > S5 > the rest
s4 had me extremely hyped lmao

[solar dew]

Natsume Yuujinchou is something that always gets thrown out there like Gintama so I’m gonna give it a try casually

[jagged stone]

xD

[wary grotto]

is it possible for someone to get a blue period

[last valley]

Its from Kyoukai no Kanata.

[vapid knoll]

Komi san season 2 when?

[topaz linden]

Confirmed to be in production, but no release date announced

Thursday next week to be exact (Oct 7)

[topaz linden]

Personally found S4 to be 3ish 8/10 episodes and 21ish 4/10 episodes. Havent finished S5 yet, but wouldnt have it near the top personally, since it felt like a bit of a slog to get through most of the season to actually get to the "hype" parts

S2's my personal favorite tho. Felt like it had the best actual character development and emotional scenes to it

and the animation for that season was just

oof

were they good ones at least?

[woeful sonnet]

doooo itttttt

it's so good

[vapid knoll]

No

Thx

I'm watching lots of hanime

Baka

[topaz linden]

legit dont even remember that lol

[shadow knot]

Bones need to stop doing movies for MHA

Seems like they've been cucking the potential its later seasons it holds

[topaz linden]

I dont remember the movies being all that bad, just weakened by their lack of canon impact.

[shadow knot]

The movies aren't bad yeah

But you notice the comparison between the later seasons (aka S4 and S5) to the older seasons right?

[topaz linden]

well yeh, but that's been a consistent trend since early S3 imo

[shadow knot]

Yeah, I'd like to think it's because Bones used their budget that could've been on their later seasons but on the movies instead

[topaz linden]

interesting theory. Not sure if thats the case tho, since I would think those would be separate budgets vs a fixed shared pool.
Imo, they seem to be rushing out production of these (putting out two cour seasons every year for the past 5ish years), and just really unequally distributing the season budget (they seem to have the budget/time for better quality, but decide to condense it into one or two episodes vs generally improving the overall season)

[shadow knot]

that actually seems to make more sense yeah

[topaz linden]

Yehhh, were you here the other day when I was talking about them blowing the animation budget on a stupid training episode?

[shadow knot]

Yeah I saw wtf

I haven't been watching a lot of mha myself but like

they could've used that budget on the actual fights later seasons

I heard that one Mirio fight in S4 was the most anticipated in the manga only for the anime to deliver it in a lackluster fashion

but honestly from what I've seen, the other fights aren't that bad and they still seem pretty baller (obviously doesn't compare to that training episode lool)

[topaz linden]

Yeah, its a shame, since the VAing for that was perfect for the scene, but the animation was pretty lackluster
Mirio and Overhaul's VAs carried the scene, so it was still fairly decent, but yeh. Deku vs Overhaul showed where the real animation budget went lol
||https://youtu.be/PkzrZ4lz548||

Mirio's animation (outside of one or two punchs) consists almost entirely of still images with a moving background

[shadow knot]

Brooo this scene gets on my nerve

Cuz like

I can feel the emotion or 2

But the untapped potential it packs to making this scene even more powerful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpOhT35YtWg meanwhile this scene you mentioned back then

[autumn igloo]

“A sister is all you need” watch it and reply with your favourite character

[topaz linden]

it's so fucking good

and the buildup to it

the weight

[topaz linden]

It's right up there with Slime S2's ||Megiddo|| for "wasted potential imo
A shame

[delicate portal]

thanks

[spring dove]

JO WTF THAT BORUTO EPSIODE WAS CRAZY HOLY

naruto was goin crazy wtf

[plain orchid]

Wtf i am watching steins gate rn how tf can it be soo pog

Its sooo great it give such a different vibe then any other anime

It sometimes gives you chills also

[humble gulch]

Anyone here has any sad romance anime recommendations??

[chrome escarp]

Something like hotarubi?

[humble gulch]

I have never watched that

[shadow sleet]

I want to eat your pancreas

A silent voice

[chrome escarp]

Mainstream : anohana, a few of Makoto shinkai and key animation works
Romace as sub genre : your lie April, guilty crown, corpse party (I forget which one), ousama game.

[humble gulch]

Been watched it

[humble gulch]

Watched

[shadow sleet]

[chrome escarp]

Is dororo sad? I only remember first heroine

[humble gulch]

Your lie in April overrated
Is corpse party even like that? I heard that it was horror lmao

[chrome escarp]

Yeah horror, but the end quite has a little bit of romance (if I remember correctly)

[shadow sleet]

Jebaited to watch horror

[humble gulch]

Which one is first
The single episode or the 4 ovas

[chrome escarp]

Sorry I don't remember, I only remember the ending

[humble gulch]

Mkay

[shadow sleet]

Plastic memories is sad ig

Idk why for romance animes i spoil myself around the climax and if the ending isnt preferrable i stop watching

[tropic shale]

Clannad

[topaz linden]

Romance as main or one of the main genres:
Love, Chuunibyou, and other Delusions
Oh Maidens in your Savage Seasons
Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai
A Lull in the Sea

Romance as a sub-genre:
Beyond the Boundary

Note: while these have "sad" parts, I havent really watched any with "sad" endings. So I'm sorry if that's more what you're looking for 😅

[humble gulch]

Eh
I watched like 8 episodes of it and forgot about it💀

[humble gulch]

I already watched bunny girl senpai, it was somewhat disappointing

[solar dew]

Oh snap

Too many people like Bunny Girl here

[humble gulch]

Fr

Like

It ain't even that great

[solar dew]

I call it a poor Haruhi/Monogatari

🍿

Everyone else here calls it "best show ever"

[humble gulch]

Oh god no

I watched it for the romance not for the science
Didn't even know it was about science as well

When it comes to science
Dr Stone negs

[shadow knot]

I thought aobuta’s neat first time around but yeah as you watch more anime it doesn’t compare to a lot

[tropic shale]

I do get what you mean, it is extremely boring while watching it.

But for me it was just finishing it and looking back at the anime and just wow, this was great

I agree Bunny girl is kinda overrated but I do like the show

[topaz linden]

It's not about science tho? 😅 One of the characters uses quantum ideas as analogies for what happens in two of the arcs, but its not really "about" science at all

[solar dew]

All of Clannad was difficult to watch and it honestly took 2/3 of After Story for it to get "good"

Some folks say you gotta watch Clannad, but honestly you should just watch as much as you can stomach and go into After Story

For next season... I really only care about Tact Ops, the rest I might give a 1 episode try.

I think there's some good back log anime I wanna work on

I'm only 4 episodes away from finishing San gatsu season 2

I keep finding gems that I wanna add to my immediate backlog so I probably won't take a hiatus like originally planned

[topaz linden]

Mushoku Tensei S2 tho 👀
(also, saw the leaked bit of Komi ep 1. Anime's lookin pretty af )

[errant kite]

v

[supple plank]

Войдите в свой театр годовщины https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/e20210928review/share.html?utm_source=share&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=web&mhy_auth_required=true&mhy_presentation_style=fullscreen#/GCENTM2IHN

[topaz linden]

@last plank @supple plank Wrong channel. You can post those links in #892254491343196160 , please keep them out of this channel.

[last plank]

ah- sorry

[topaz linden]

All good, we're just trying to keep that confined to a specific channel since it can easily overwhelm chat.
Mind deleting your post in this channel though? (I don't have Delete permissions here or I'd do it for you 😅 )

[last plank]

ofc, idm again i'm sorry

[topaz linden]

Ты не можешь положить это сюда.
Положи это в #892254491343196160

[shadow sleet]

english please

[topaz linden]

@shadow sleet 👀

Pretty much same thing lol

just in very basic Russian

[ripe gale]

pathetic death i must say smh

[tropic shale]

Can't find TR C224 anywhere on Tachiyomi 😩

[shadow knot]

That's the new Tokyo Revengers chapter?

[boreal tapir]

Spongebob was kira all along

[ripe gale]

yessir

[brave parcel]

Literally no context to the spoiler

[ember cairn]

https://youtu.be/JKNz9RGft_0
man, this was probably the best well made trailer I ever saw

[coral flower]

Does someone read battle game in 5 seconds here?

What chapter akira confessed to yuuri

[ember cairn]

Guys, can we aknowledge the fact that Ilulu canonically uses Band-aids over her nipples?

[shadow knot]

nah I only watched it

anime was so ass especially with the animation but the crackhead creativity it packs into the fights made it worthwhile

I too am curious what chapter that was if it actually happened cuz honestly tho Akira x Yuuri moments were kinda cute ngl

[topaz linden]

Was actually planning on starting that anime now that it finished airing lol, the premise seemed interesting enough for a one-off viewing

[shadow knot]

I'm not gonna lie, even if I do say it was ass I actually did enjoy it lmao

cuz like the abilities are just stupid yet hilariously creative as it tries to defy bits of logic to make the fights work

[topaz linden]

sounds about like the vibe I expected it to have from the premise lol

Guess I'll be giving it a shot 👀

(finished dragonmaid s yesterday. That one honestly carried the season for me)

KyoAni has absolutely no chill when it comes to SoL

[shadow knot]

Yeah Dragonmaid S should be like aots for summer 2021

or Tensura's

[topaz linden]

ehhh, I feel like tensura kinda half-assed too much to be aots

Dragonmaid was pretty consistent in its quality

[shadow knot]

Yeah I was just thinking cuz everyone's still raving it

Like I can def tell it don't look top notch

in comparison to lets say first season

[topaz linden]

As a fan of the overall series, was pretty disappointed tbh 😅

First half of S2 suffered from a ton of cut content, changed scenes, and overall half-assed animation.
Second half had major pacing issues, tho tbh thats partly the fault of the arc they're covering (half of the second half was just meeting talk)

[shadow knot]

ik two others who didn't like S2 a lot as well and they're anime onlies

so quite to hear

[topaz linden]

Yehhhh

Dragonmaid S tho...

Man, such a flex

[shadow knot]

yeah I heard some of the episodes are pulling mad budget

[topaz linden]

honestly gives me a ton of hope for KyoAni going forward. They've done a hell of a job training the new gen

[shadow knot]

nice to hear them back and packin

[topaz linden]

Even the smaller stuff was so nice. A ton of subtle stuff too
Like in the firework festival, they went out of their way to fake-simulate a traditional nighttime camera lens, with just a bit of grain and a similar sort of focus and light glow/flaring.

[topaz linden]

Yeah, apparently they've been letting the new gen get the hang of things by assigning them to short animated commercials, which honestly seem a little too good for TV imo lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp3vtjlz07Q

[shadow knot]

lmaoo kinda reminding me of Violet Evergarden's cinematography and glare work

I like it

[shadow knot]

And I've seen this too, pretty good!

[topaz linden]

The biggest budget was definitely the Ep 9 fight. Like, ya don't need to watch the full thing, but just the bit from 0:44-1:36 is just... my god Kyo. At least give other studios a chance to come close (the timestamped bit should be fairly spoiler free, in case you plan on watching it later)
||https://youtu.be/fBQpQoFkuaE?t=44||

https://tenor.com/view/elma-maid-dragon-kobayashi-maid-dragon-gif-22589436

[shadow knot]

damnn that's fire

[topaz linden]

Yeh, and just keep that in mind when I say

Dragonmaid was pretty consistent in its quality

Even the reddit threads agreed lol

[coral flower]

Yeah im curious on this part. I just saw some fb spoiler peeps commenting that akira confessed so im curious. Currently reading the manga and im way too far on the latest

Im at 72/150+ chapters

[shadow knot]

YO TRUE

consistent quality = consistent ratings

[topaz linden]

yee, tbh, every episode kinda slapped in its own way

Probably gonna end up with Vivy and Odd Taxi in my "cant stop talking about it" category lol

[ember cairn]

My only complaint about Dragon Maid is that we didnt had enough Ilulu x Take scenes

Thats why im reading the manga now

[topaz linden]

tru

tho the bits we had were surprisingly effective at building them up lol

They just have really good chemistry

[ember cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/korone-yes-gif-18408532

[topaz linden]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-kobayashi-dragon-maid-s-ilulu-boobs-tits-taketo-aida-gif-22585858

honestly, wasn't expecting my favorite characters this season to be her and Elma

They got a ton of development/fleshing out for their characters

[ember cairn]

Yeah, Ilulu probably came my favorite dragon after this season

But ngl, i was kinda impressed on how NSFW the manga is

[topaz linden]

KyoAni has a way of completely transforming the source material. Its always a bit of a shock comparing the two (not saying its in a bad way, just a "oh damn, that's way different than I expected based on the anime"

[ember cairn]

And not just that
Its kinda incredible how beautiful the anime is compared to the style of the manga

Tho, its one of the earlier chapters, so its much different now

[ember cairn]

But I also love the fact the Ilulu using Band-aids on her nipples is canon

[topaz linden]

I mean, this is the same studio that took this

and spent literal months rotoscoping one of the best music scenes in anime history out of it https://youtu.be/WWB01IuMvzA

^from literally two pages of the manga (well, more pages in the LN, but still)

[plucky mantle]

im bored rn and got nothing to do for the rest of the day, anyone got any recommendations?

im lazy to skim through my watchlist ajjsmwmkso

[topaz linden]

any genre preference?

[plucky mantle]

romcom, slice of life maybe idk

[topaz linden]

Hm, seen Interviews with Monster Girls? A personal favorite of mine for Slice of Life

[plucky mantle]

lemme check that one out

imma watch the first episode, thanks

[topaz linden]

Personal favorite of mine. Hope ya like it :D

https://tenor.com/view/demichan-wa-kataritai-interviews-with-monster-girls-anime-takahashi-sensei-gif-16758486

Satou and Hikari are tied for my favorites from it

(Hikari gives me Hu Tao vibes lol)

[deft needle]

Have you guys seen blue period? This anime looks promising af

[chrome escarp]

Is that another anime that has ballroom e youkoso or runway de waratte vibes?

[topaz linden]

I've heard good things about the manga, havent seen anything about the anime tho

[deft needle]

This anime is very passionate about the process of making art, almost infectiously so, while still retaining a lot of the reality that comes with it. At least, that's what the first episode led me to believe, i hope they'll keep going with that enthusiasm

[shadow knot]

I might drop it cuz I can't with the animation

Sure it doesn't matter a lot but for such a highly acclaimed source material tho
That's like the only thing I have to highly nit pick and dropping is a huge last resort (and I'll just continue thru the manga)

[vapid knoll]

Does someone recognize the name Güliedistodiez?

[shadow knot]

I think Jake should, I gave it a search and it's from spider isekai

[vapid knoll]

Yeah

Güliedustodiez nuts

[plain orchid]

https://youtu.be/dd7BILZcYAY

The op is sooo nostalgic

[plain orchid]

Watch GRAND BLUE

[tropic shale]

He gave you his help and you betrayed him, what cruelty

[plucky mantle]

https://youtu.be/R2dIdkbB2PY

[tropic shale]

How good is shield hero

Is it like re zero level or

[chrome escarp]

No additional cast?

[plucky mantle]

i'd say it's on par

[ocean quiver]

I watched it like a week ago it is pretty good compare to some trash like sao

[elfin needle]

This trash is getting a second season?

[woeful sonnet]

not even close

[woeful sonnet]

this is more accurate

[woeful sonnet]

I did not expect to see those lines in something that isn't questionable

[wheat karma]

how can u recommend something that isn't released yet tho

[woeful sonnet]

it is released

[wheat karma]

real shit?

fuck

i need disney+ now

[dry nest]

ive been trying to find this one anime i know the gist of the anime but i cant remember the name

the anime is about a website where if u put someones name in it theyll die

and it makes connections to like a red string and stuff and the people that get killed are brought to hell on a boat

[wheat karma]

a quick search says its hell girl

Each episode typically follows the format of a self-contained short story where a person has been suffering torment from an acquaintance to the point that he or she accesses the Hell Correspondence website and submits a request to get rid of the person.

there, first sentence in the plot

[swift bison]

definitely sounds like hell girl

thank you for reminding me of it! i haven't watched it in years

[dry nest]

nice let me heck it out

YES

its this one

thanks

[topaz linden]

I personally found it pretty enjoyable... up until the main conflict got resolved (||lying princess getting put in her place||)
After that... the plot kinda goes off the deep end imo lol

like, S1 just barely started the post-main conflict bit in its second half, but it gets weird, and not really in a good way. More of a "the author doesnt really seem to know where they're going anymore and is just winging it" kind of way

First part is pretty solid tho. Animation's surprisingly good, and Raphtalia's a great character

https://youtu.be/c42Kdoki5fA

[topaz linden]

yee, all 9 episodes are out. They're pretty good (tho as expected from 6 studios working on them, the quality varies a lot from episode to episode)

Trigger's feels like a straight-up parody for example lol

[topaz linden]

9 unconnected shorts, yeah.

I mean, ya can. Personally found it a bit cheesy, but its SFW

• didn't like spirited away either *

[ember cairn]

cursed

[austere finch]

[mighty cape]

https://youtu.be/y3O6jkchDaM

[exotic oracle]

Why I feel this anime has the same vibe with Guilty Crown?

https://youtu.be/Sal5NXCPv14

[radiant nimbus]

Guys can anyone tell me how do I start watching the fate series like what order do I watch them in

[chrome escarp]

Ahh, just realize this, a couple with sword and music

[topaz linden]

https://youtu.be/wnVwcUhxt1k

do you want the long version or the short version?

[exotic oracle]

And Ryo Supercell

[chrome escarp]

Yup

[radiant nimbus]

Ohh is it like HxH 2011 version vs the 1999 version?

[topaz linden]

TL;DR from the video: There's essentially three or so good series to start with, but each one of them spoils major plot points from the other two, so there's not really an "order" to them that gets around that

here's the flowchart from the fate subreddit that tries to give an "order" to do things lol

(right column is anime only, left sideis if you're willing to do the Visual Novel first)

[radiant nimbus]

Ummm wtf 😂

[topaz linden]

...the video I linked is actually a surprisingly thorough, albeit entertaining, summary of the clusterfuck lol

TL;DR:
Fate/Zero or Unlimited Blade Works first, then whichever of the two you didnt pick after that.
After those two, the Heavens Feel movie trilogy.

UBW and Fate/Zero will spoil each other and a bit of heavens feel tho, so its a bit of "choose your poison" for which to start with lol

this is why sane authors only adapt one route from a VN

[radiant nimbus]

Ohh thank you very much my guy 🙌🍻

[topaz linden]

funny enough, not even a Fate fan lol

I just find the shitshow of a timeline entertaining

[radiant nimbus]

Yea like for an outsider like myself trying watch it after seeing this I rather just not 😂

[exotic oracle]

Wow that's more complicated than monogatari series

[last valley]

They make it complicated than it actually is

Just watch Fate/Zero -> Unlimited Blade Works (TV) -> Heavens's Feel Trilogy, this completes the main/original series.
If you want you can follow the visual novel order. Its also a valid option

After that you can watch any spinoff of your choice, all of them are canon and some add a lot to the overall Fate verse

[topaz linden]

Pretty much the same summary, but thats pretty much it yeh. tho some people will disagree about Fate/Zero vs UBW first (personally didnt like both, but some people have preferences)

[last valley]

Both approaches are perfectly acceptable

Its just a matter of preference as you said

[topaz linden]

You just gotta accept that there isnt an order that doesnt spoil something in another lol

[last valley]

Yeah and thats a concept which is hard to grasp for some newcomers

[topaz linden]

I mean, understandably so

its a weird way to make a series lol

[last valley]

It really isn't

This is just how things are with visual novel adaptations

[topaz linden]

At least from my understanding tho, most VN adaptions usually only do one route, which solves the issue a bit

[last valley]

Translating visual novel routes which expand on the previous iteration is incredibly difficult to convey in anime format

[warped ridge]

Looks like with new laws Venti become the girl.

Probably Zhongli too.

[last valley]

Yeah and that works for them since they aren't structured like Fate/stay night

FSN expands on itself with every route. Hence all 3 are needed to understand the whole picture

[topaz linden]

^see the earlier comment lol

[last valley]

Its not about authors though

Author don't have control over what gets put into an anime adaptation

And adapting one route would be worst way to deal with FSN

[topaz linden]

Actually, just found out about it the other day from Oshi no Ko, but they have a ton of control over it 👀 Any changes to the work need the author's explicit approval for any changes to the content of their work. The adaption needs their explicit permission to work

since they sum it up best:

[last valley]

I think you misunderstood

FSN is a VN written by Ninoko Nasu. As i have said before its structured differently than your normal VNs like Steins;Gate. Since FSN expands upon itself with each route, you can't just adapt Heaven's Feel which the third and final route of the VN and leave it at that. Since it assumes you have read through the first two routes which are Fate and Unlimited Blade Works

this is why sane authors only adapt one route from a VN
So this really doesn't fit for something like FSN

Manga authors and visual novel authors are very different in general

I tend to stay away from comparisons

[topaz linden]

Didn't say they were (manga and VN authors). The copyright law is shared for any copyrighted work in Japan tho (its a constitutional thing. looked it up after I read that chapter)

[last valley]

the entire reason why a "watch order" exists because there's an intended method of experiencing it

Copyright of mangas and anime IPs are vastly different. This is already way way off topic anyway

Simply my point is, adapting one route solves nothing, only creates more problems .

And FSN itself is a very small part of the Nasuverse

From what I've seen over the years, people have found a pretty agreed upon way for anime only people to get into the series, which is great.

The franchise could use some people demystifying it. Because its not as complicated as the memes make it out to be

[topaz linden]

There's a read order for the Visual novels, but from my understanding, the issue when it transitions into anime becomes one where the "intended order" experience isn't necessarily the most enjoyable one (due to the generally considered "shit"/lackluster Fate route adaption).

And when people are trying to be selective with their time (hence why they don't "just go read the visual novel" as most of the guides recommend to start with), the challenge then becomes determining whether spoiling the conclusion from UBW or having the suspense cut from Zero is the greater compromise to make from an "enjoyment" perspective. Both animes were made (as most non-direct sequels (S2, S3, etc) are) to be fairly self-sufficient, so its not like you're going to be lost if you change the watch order.

Most of the "memes" I see generally boil down to "pick your poison, then laugh at the sheer number of canon spin-offs".

Once people get past the FSN bit, its generally pretty clear what order to watch things (or where order doesn't matter, like the cooking spinoff lol)

[last valley]

Yeah people think way too much about it

As far as good Fate anime adaptations go. So far there are only two

Fate/Zero and Fate/Grand Order Babylonia

The others range from being alright to just bad

[topaz linden]

the 06 one gets memed to hell lol

[last valley]

FSN 2006 is surprisingly not that awful given you don't watch it first

Studio Deen really messed up trying to create a mix of all three routes in one anime. It was never going to work

It tried staying close to Fate route but randomly introduced elements from UBW and HF

Unless someone really really likes Artoria i tell them to just skip it and read the VN in the future if they have the time.
But if they are a completionist well then i hope they can get a good laugh out of it

[topaz linden]

this is a bit closer to what I meant by the earlier statement btw 😅
Not that all three shouldnt be adapted if they want to tell the story, but that they should either stick to strictly those routes as they were told, or dont half-ass it by kinda sticking to it and kinda not, and commit to some combination of the three as an anime-only route.
(the latter is asking for trouble, but still better than only half-committing to it)

[last valley]

Well we aren't arguing here

Enough about FSN talks tbh. Im glad that FGO has been getting more attention recently

Its pretty much the premier Fate series which is currently active

[topaz linden]

FGO seems like a bottomless Abyss to a non-Fate fan like myself 😅

[last valley]

Understandably so

But finding a gacha game which uses its reach to present an actually gripping and well written narrative is rare asf

People suffer from the gacha but still play because of the story. Wild

The most recent story chapter release was longer than the entire Steins;Gate visual novel

Written by Nasu himself

[topaz linden]

the glory of text + static png story expansions lol
Author can pretty much just write a book and slap it into the game as a story expansion.

And the storage space taken up is miniscule

so the amount of story that can be crammed in gets exponentially bigger

[last valley]

Yeah its pretty much a linear VN attached to a turn based rpg game

[last valley]

I expect FGO Camelot 2 to join this list. The movie looks incredible and the staff working on it is top tier

[topaz linden]

Can def respect the animation team 👀 was pretty much what got me through the ones I watched

[last valley]

I haven't heard how Solomon was received in Japan but given its by the exact same staff which produced Babylonia i have my hopes up

[topaz linden]

just hope their budget didnt all go to Takt Op lol

that anime looks like its getting some Fate-level animation budget

[last valley]

CloverWorks with Babylonia managed to not only deliver great animation given their team of young animators but did so by not sacrificing the story. Something which unfortunately can't be said about the FSN animes

[topaz linden]

wait, shit, think im mixing up studios

[last valley]

Takt Op is my Mappa and Madhouse iirc

[topaz linden]

yeeeee... Fate is ufotable iirc

think Im mixing them up

Can't blame me, its def got a Fate feel to its animation style

[last valley]

FGO Babylonia and Solomon by CloverWorks
FGO Camelot is by Production IG
FSN and Fate Zero is by ufotable

Fate animes had a myriad of different studios who all have all presented a different style

It can be easy to lose track of who made what

CloverWorks' recent non FGO shows have been....yikes

WEP and TPN s2

[topaz linden]

went and double checked. Studio Deen did the 06 one, in what I suppose is their usual case of "coin flip quality" for their anime adaptions 👀

[last valley]

Yeah Deen made FSN 2006 which is supposed adapt the Fate route from the VN but we all know how that went

Its also called Deen/stay night by people

[topaz linden]

yee, from my limited exposure to them, their quality flip flops a lot between shows (hence the coin flip analogy)

[last valley]

Animation for the most part across the series ranges from being decent to absolutely stunning

The lowest point for the series would be some of the earlier Fate/kaleid seasons and low profile spinoffs like Case Files of Lord El Melloi II.
The latter can be forgiven since action isn't really the main focus of that show

[topaz linden]

Never heard of the latter one, but I would have thought Seven Deadly Sins S3 would have ended up any "lowest point" list for them lol

https://tenor.com/view/meliodas-nanatsu-no-taizai-seven-deadly-sins-anime-fight-gif-17374992

[last valley]

Oh when i was speaking of "lowest point" i was talking about the Fate series not Studio Deen specifically

[topaz linden]

ah, the case files thing is a fate spinoff?

[last valley]

And yeah SDS s3 is....

[topaz linden]

there's so many its hard to tell anymore

[last valley]

You remember Waver Velvet?

The master of Iskandar from Fate Zero

[topaz linden]

had to google cause I remember no names lol

[last valley]

Thats alright

[topaz linden]

I just remember him as "the whiny kid"

[last valley]

Case Files basically follows the life of Waver after the Fifth Holy Grail war (the war which happens in Fate/stay night)

Waver actually had a cameo in UBW anime

[topaz linden]

terrifying

[last valley]

This is that whiny kid now

[topaz linden]

I can just feel the edge

[last valley]

Waver and Iskandar were the favourite pair for a lot of people, this spinoff serves as a nice sendoff to their relationship and expands upon Waver as a person

[topaz linden]

Iskandar was nice, but at least in Zero, that "pair" was just Iskandar babysitting the brat lol

[last valley]

Also he's gown up to be calm and articulate. A far cry from what he used to be when he was young.

[topaz linden]

Are you sure its Waver you're talkin bout, and not Waver of Red? 👀

[last valley]

Waver learning to value himself was a nice journey to behold. Its like the most common favourite among people

[last valley]

Its Waver Velvet

Waver of Red isn't a thing

I think you mixed it up with Saber of Red

[topaz linden]

was referencing the gigguk video lol

[last valley]

Ah yeah thats Mordred aka Saber of Red

[topaz linden]

"So is that Saber of Red or the Saber that's red?"
"...yes"

[last valley]

Mordred gets this name due her being in the Red faction in Fate/Apocrypha and since she's a Saber.
She gets the name Saber of Red

i.e Saber from the Red Faction

This must sound like such bullshit to people who aren't into Fate lmfao

[topaz linden]

Very much so, yes

still less strange than their origin story 👀

[last valley]

We don't talk about that

[topaz linden]

still canon tho

[tropic shale]

I logged on and thought "Wow, so many messages in such a short time." and then i went to the earliest unread comment and saw someone asking about fate watch order

"This explains everything"

[last valley]

This chat used to be a lot more active before

I guess people have school now or aren't here more often cuz of the leaks pause

https://youtu.be/YlvQBPl_AkE

Almost forgot how good the songs of 3-Gatsu were

[exotic oracle]

I really love sangatsu no lion

[last valley]

Sangatsu manga recently came off of hiatus now that Chica Umino is done with her work in FGO Lostbelt 6

The manga got a new chapter earlier this week iirc

[plain orchid]

Censored

[exotic oracle]

Yes the new tankobon is out. Rei and Hinata is so cute

[tropic shale]

What's the point of watching ecchi anime if it's censored

[plain orchid]

Need to wait till oct 8

[tropic prairie]

Yo I just finished jujutsu kaisen (dope btw) any suggestions?

[small solar]

ok

[dawn socket]

if you want something similar wait for chainsaw man i guess

[nova fox]

hi

[plain orchid]

Mob psycho 100 i think it feels more poggers then jjk or on par with it
Stiens gate <- very hard to justify the experience
What genre do you want

[oak latch]

yo i love mp100

[chrome escarp]

Since jjk from jump, maybe another jump story will suit you, my recommendation is terra formars

[shadow sleet]

Need more fantasy/magic/isekai with a hint of romance

I want to watch the slime isekai but seeing it has multiple seasons just sounds tiring

[split tartan]

I rly recommend the beginning after the end, it’s an isekai light novel that has a manga adaptation it’s one of the best isekai ive ever watched and I rly love the light novel

And theres a slight romance between the mc and elf princess that gets more important later on but IMO it’s not the main focus of it

[hot cipher]

The whiny kid evolved into overworked support

[tropic shale]

I'm reading the manga for this rn. The pain of reading something that's ongoing is real

And I can tell that it still has a very long way to go

And I also heard that the novel is like way way way ahead of the manga

Pain

I might just read the novel

But the novel's also ongoing

Build me a time travel machiiiiiiiiiiine

[topaz linden]

At least when that one does update, each chapter is like... 90 pages long lol

Its how I justify reading each one as they release

Meanwhile, made the mistake of binge-reading all of Oshi no Ko (at least, what's currently out)

Now im stuck halfway through an arc in a series that easily could have 100+ more chapters til its done

[shadow knot]

LETS FUCKING GO

Goated manga 🐐 from Aka himself

Who’s best girl for you?

[topaz linden]

Goated manga... but ongoing manga

Personally an Arima fan, but I feel like the author is leaning more towards Akane ;-;

[shadow knot]

DO IT

Akane supremacyyy

Ik a few Arima fans who made the immediate switchup to Akane LMAO

[topaz linden]

Nah, my fandom aint that weak

Im a fan of blue haired girls, im used to losing

[shadow knot]

It gotta be Akane > Ruby > Arima for me cuz Arima reminds me a lot of Miko Iino LMAO

She’s def gonna get her chance to shine eventually but I’m just here preaching Akane in the meantime 🙌🙌🙌

But yeah I’m still at ch 50 cuz I wanna have the chapters pile up to 60 then I’ll binge them

Normally I’d binge ongoing manga when it’s about to finish but my friends kept preaching Oshi no Ko for me lol

[topaz linden]

I already caught up with whats on MD, so I think ill read it weekly til this current arc (||theatre stuff||) finishes, then put it back into the "Incomplete, Check Later" bin

[shadow knot]

Mhm

[topaz linden]

Yehhh

I try to stick to only completed series...

[mighty cape]

Oshi no ko readers are cultured af

[topaz linden]

But theres so many good ones out there that wont finish for another year or two ;-;

[shadow knot]

I also picked it up cuz I’m heavily familiar with Yokoyari’s nutty art and character designs

[mighty cape]

Has new chap been released??

[shadow knot]

Like I thought Kuzu no Honkai was decent yet great in art

[mighty cape]

Also do y'all read boys abyss as well???

[shadow knot]

Nope

[mighty cape]

Ah f...

[shadow knot]

Pretty sure that’s trending in TikTok no?

[mighty cape]

U could give it a read

[mighty cape]

Boys abyss? Im not on tiktok

[topaz linden]

Only ongoing series im reading are Beginning After the End, some low budget isekai trash, and Komi-san.
Other than that, I've managed to limit myself to only completed ones 😅

[shadow knot]

Lool

Lol typo

[mighty cape]

Im reading op, boys abyss, dog and scum, oshi no ko and strategic lovers for now

[shadow knot]

Mhm

Oshi no Ko, Tokyo Revengers and Dr Stone for me

TR kinda ass rn and Dr Stone is still ok imo

[mighty cape]

Tr is being milked fr

Read boys abyss shits really messed up

But its cool

[shadow knot]

Yeah I heard about it

I gotta pick up Urasawa’s other series bruh I’ve only read Pluto and I loved it

Might be Billy Bat first, then Monster, then 20thcb for last

[chrome escarp]

This is just my favorite, so idk if it will suit your taste or not.
Hataraku maou sama, Knight and magic (mecha), dog days.

[topaz linden]

Boys in abyss

The crossover absolutely no one asked for

[chrome escarp]

Did login into game count as isekai? If yes maybe you will like summer wars' or .hack// the movie

[topaz linden]

oh hey, another knights and magic fan 👀
Not normally a mecha fan, but the MC in that is just way too enthusiastic about workin on them, its kinda contagious

[chrome escarp]

Oh hey, another prespective I never realize till now. I normally only watch for robot.

[topaz linden]

The "knights" are mecha pilots 👀

I mean... basically yeh lol

and magic beasts

Lowkey, the animation in that one was actually pretty nice (not just the CG mechas. Even the normal fights were surprisingly decent, despite those normally being more of a sidenote in mecha animes)

[chrome escarp]

MC really contagious other character in series (why I never realize this)

So it's called cg

[topaz linden]

yeh, thats what stood out about it to me lol. Since I don't like mechas on their own, there usually has to be some other standout thing for me to like em (part of why theres only ~4 or so in my list)

[topaz linden]

CG for "Computer graphics", yeah 👀

3d models and whatnot

[chrome escarp]

What is different between cg and normal one? I only know this after arifureta

[topaz linden]

MC's gotta invent guns so he can slap em on his mecha lol

[topaz linden]

CG is using 3d models, traditional animation is hand drawn (easiest way to tell is if they bother with smear frames. models cant do that)

[wary grotto]

anime

[topaz linden]

Technically the same thing, tho CG seems to be used more for mixed animation (CG models on a drawn background, or models moving around other drawn characters)
CGI seems to be more for "completely 3d" (Like video games, or anime that dont even bother with the traditional side of things)

technically the same thing, just slight dif in context/usage

[chrome escarp]

So Tesla note, ultra suit, and the new saint seiya is cg anime right?

[topaz linden]

There's some pretty good 3d anime out there. Land of the Lustorous being one great example of CGI anime done right 👀

yeh

Very well done cgi 👀

Berserk and Ex-Arm give the medium a bad name lol

[topaz linden]

dunno the other two, but the Ultraman one is cg, yeah (those are 3d models. There might be some drawn on effects laid on top, but 90+% of it is 3d models)

3d models are used cause they're a lot easier to move and manipulate them than hand animation, it just takes a lot of skill to do it well, so its rare to see it front and center unless its a team specialized in that

So most CG in anime is used for stuff like cars and crowds lol (just... dont look at the crowds. Once you notice it, its hard to unsee them)

[chrome escarp]

Another question, why people hate it?

This happen in AoT right?

Maybe I just used to it, never think that far

Used to watch this in childhood
https://youtu.be/tshyNeyD7K8

Maybe thats why I okay with cg things

[quasi plinth]

when studios think hey this is a good way to save money instead of hey we can make something really cool with this

[topaz linden]

Few main reasons:

• Often done poorly/cheaply, with the examples of Arifureta, Berserk and Ex-Arms coming to mind
• Since its largely done as a cost/time-saving measure, some see it as being lazy/cheap ("Don't make an anime if you aren't willing to take the time to animate it"), especially when it ends up impacting the quality of the show
• There's a large "uncanny valley" gap between 'terrible' 3d and 'good' CG, so even studios that try to make an effort can come off making something that looks off/weird (Even more so if the anime tries to have 3d models moving alongside 2d animated figures)

Gigguk's video on the topic is pretty comprehensive https://youtu.be/WVQkwbhmuqQ

[chrome escarp]

Thank you

[humble gulch]

uwu

[shadow knot]

You've seen Catuious Hero right?

[tropic shale]

Seeing u guys talk about oshi no ko makes me want to read it but NOOOOOOOOO NOT ANOTHER ONGOING

[shadow knot]

If you do consider it’s worth your time

Like holy shit

Aka is so cunning in detail on the showbiz industry

And whoever’s the team translating it in guya.moe needs a fucking raise

[azure sinew]

uramichi always gets me in this scene bye

[topaz linden]

the ongoing struggle

[shadow sleet]

No, is it good?

Ill check it out

[shadow knot]

huge guilty pleasure of mine

Like if I have to choose an isekai I'd pick that

[shadow sleet]

Thanks ill check em out

[willow fulcrum]

Yae as Makima

[dawn socket]

now imagine aether eating yae

[earnest lagoon]

@stark snow 🤔

[stark snow]

lol

[tropic shale]

Ayo 📸 🤨

Sussy

[terse tinsel]

NGNL back from hiatus, we get the fairies race

[tropic shale]

now gib amime

[left finch]

where the anime

[terse tinsel]

anime gone

[muted bobcat]

LET SCU KING GO

[terse tinsel]

11th volume iirc

[muted bobcat]

it's. called no game no life btw

[terse tinsel]

we know

NGNL

i thought everyone knew the abbreviation for that masterpiece

anime wher

[muted bobcat]

they didn't LMAOO

I would love ngnl manga but like

[shadow knot]

NGNL is iconic back then

Now it’s “ngnl s2 when” and “omg ecchi”

[elfin needle]

This is why isekais are garbage

[mighty cape]

Re:Zero's pretty great if you ask me

[woeful sonnet]

W

[meager radish]

Canon?

[topaz linden]

Whatcha mean by canon?

[meager radish]

Does it follow the main story line i only watched s1

[meager radish]

Didnt know there was a movie

[woeful sonnet]

all of it is canon as far as I'm aware

[woeful sonnet]

theres 2 actually

memory snow and frozen bonds

they're both only about an hour though

[meager radish]

Do the movie move on where the anime left off?

[woeful sonnet]

frozen bonds is a prequel

and memory snow happens in between arc 2 and 3

and then season two is after all of that\

[meager radish]

Season 2?? Is there a season 2

[woeful sonnet]

...yes

it's way better than the first one imo

[topaz linden]

Season 1 had better pacing and animatiom imo, but Season 2 had better story and character development

But yeh, if you liked the first season, def give S2 a watch.
Also Frozen Bonds, cause it gives good context for Season 2.
(Memory snow is kinda just OVA fluff, not really needed)

[woeful sonnet]

it's considered a movie by mal :p

so thats what I went with

I didn't watch frozen bonds until after s2

[topaz linden]

Memory Snow - OVA, Fall 2018
Frozen Bond - Prequel movie, Fall 2019

[woeful sonnet]

it's rly worth it

[woeful sonnet]

I didn't find any problems with the pacing

but I like it when things take time to be fleshed out

rather that going at a brisk pace

I would've even preferred it to be longer

I hear about so much cut web novel content

[topaz linden]

It wasnt 'bad' pacing in S2, I just found S1's to be a bit more enjoyable personally.
S2 kinda seemed to deal with a bit from "dont want to end mid arc, so we gotta make some stuff into multiple episodes so we end when this arc ends"

Still rated both v highly, and its story was really great

[woeful sonnet]

I didn't like how jarring subaru's "change" was in ep 13

and I think the first 2 arcs were somewhat lackluster

I hear he was more abrasive in the ln to make the outburst less jarring

but they smoothed him out for the anime

s2 I was in love with all the way through

[plucky mantle]

https://animecorner.me/no-game-no-life-reveals-volume-11-cover-returns-from-hiatus-in-november/

YOOOOO

[woeful sonnet]

I didn't like it much

[brave parcel]

Yea looking back at it now, it's not as good as how I remember it

It's probably because of the vibrant art that made me like it a lot back then

[woeful sonnet]

the only thing I really liked was the art

but that can't carry a show

[brave parcel]

True

[shadow knot]

wasn't a fan of the bright colors lowkey making me blind

but I thought it was decent overall, and the prequel movie I actually liked

• they also toned down the colors lol

[topaz linden]

yeh, thought it was decent too. Don't really get the over-the-top hype folks have for it

[solar dew]

Finished San Gatsu season 2

🍿

[brave parcel]

Yea, pretty much this

[tropic shale]

I'm suppressing my urge to read Oshi no Ko since it's ongoing

Gigguk even made a video on it

I'll come back next year to check on whether it's finished or not

[shadow knot]

missing out bruh

Aka Akasaka + Yokoyari (Kuzu no Honkai mangaka les gooo) + amazing scanlation team = pristine series

I usually avoid ongoing series as well but trust me it’s worth your time if you accidentally pick it up rn

[tropic shale]

I might "accidentally" pick it up

[shadow knot]

It do be like that

[mighty cape]

Re:Zero S2's production quality was better

S1 adapted two of my favourite arcs though

I like them equally, both had really memorable moments

If we ever get S4 though... that'll be the best season.

[split panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfNvZK0rkX0

anybody know what anime is this^

[mighty cape]

https://anilist.co/anime/13333/Tari-Tari/

?

I think

@split panther

[split panther]

i watched tari tari and i dont remember that it has a good animation for 2012 anime

[mighty cape]

that's what the comments are saying at least

[split panther]

ok then, thanky

does anyone use taiga here?

[mighty cape]

I don't think anime piracy is allowed?

I use MALSync

Taiga only when I want to watch in higher quality

[split panther]

wait what higher quality has anyhting to do with taiga

[mighty cape]

Pirate websites compress files so anime look worse, I think

Might be false though

[split panther]

uhmmm you can watch anime on taiga?

[mighty cape]

"Torrents"

[split panther]

i never use the torrent

only use it for auto detecting what anime im watching on my media player. and taiga will update it to my anilsit account automatically

[mighty cape]

I don't recommend it if you don't know what you're in for

and yes

that's one of the uses

MALSync does the same except with websites like Crunchyroll

instead of media players

[split panther]

so it cannot do offline media palyer

[mighty cape]

Nope

I use Taiga for that

[split panther]

why even bother use malsync. taiga also can detect streaming website

[mighty cape]

It also adds stuff to Anilist

[split panther]

the only complain i have with taiga now is, it cannot work with MAL account now

[mighty cape]

I honestly mostly read

[split panther]

its been 2 years since MAL doesnt work anymore with these 3rd party program

[mighty cape]

AL is overall just better

[split panther]

but my eyes for some reason just seems to hate AL

[mighty cape]

That's weird considering it looks neater and more modern than MAL

AL is only questionable when it comes to what behaviour they allow and don't allow

[split panther]

idk man, maybe im just a lil biased cuz i used MAL so long

[mighty cape]

also the lack of VNs and their messy criteria for what can be added on the site as an entry

these are my only complaints really

[split panther]

and i legit just knew that you need to turn on 18+ option to look at adult content on AL. i thought they dont list adult anime on their site. turns out im just to dumc

[mighty cape]

Ouch

I'm still in despair over Sotsu and Gou

well despair's a little much

Very disappointed

[shadow knot]

I’d disagree imo

[plucky mantle]

now remember this

[shadow knot]

He’s gonna be goated if he actually fulfills it

Cuz the industry kinda yikes with minimal pay and third rate working conditions already

[sour heron]

what takes it so long, aint they been like that since 90s?

[mighty cape]

Better animation, less cut content since the whole season was dedicated to arc 4, soundtrack just as good

They squeezed every minute out of the 25 episodes

Arc 4 starts with Volume 10 and ends with Volume 15

So with 25 episodes S2 adapts 5 volumes, while S1 adapts 9

[shadow sleet]

i didnt watch re zero's OVAs, are they worth watching? if so in which order?

[woeful agate]

he shits once every nine days

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that can't be right

the animation is far worse than the first season

not terrible or anything

but it was far worse

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Any good animes that released recently?

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how recent do we want?

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2020/2021 and i saw alot of good ones already. Demon slayer, jujutsu kaisen etc

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86 if you like some of the oldschool mech (but mostly as a plot device instead of the main focus) with a good set of characters

Tsukimichi if you like Isekai trash that tries to be different

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Seems interested

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Kanojo mo Kanojo if you want a harem but all the people involved are mentally insane (in a funny way)

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You have some more. Added the both to my list

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If you want a longer kind of slice of life (but very very dramatic), Fruits Basket. Like many seasons long.
Fumetsu no anata e for some differnet kind of fantasy.

and Duke of Death is also pretty good if you dont mind half-decent CGI too much

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No

Honestly as a LN reader I appreciate S2 more, it's a better adaptation

S1 just happens to cover one of my favourite arcs

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I often find a lot of readers deeming sanctuary arc (aka S2) peak and I gotta say they capped so hard

if anything I'm just gonna bet my money on a comeback if they plan a S3

Because the shift from character to dialogue driven dispositions wasn't it for me

And considering the whole intimacy with Subaru's psyche I've grabbed ahold in S1 just felt lost in S2

yeaaa imo S1 peaked for me

pretty sure Jake and I talked about the animation too, definitely feels more alive that season

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Check out Oddtaxi and Vivy if you can

[mighty cape]

S1 had more than half an episode dedicated to a single dialogue

Re:Zero was and will always be about its characters

And it's not only readers that think S2 is peak Re:Zero anime

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yeah

I haven't read yet

planning on it if the 3rd season isn't announced by the end of 2021

but It's my favorite

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Beastars?

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Also sadly out of 27 volumes of the Japanese LN only 16 are translated

which is barely after S2

so you're gonna have to read the WN

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Don't remember enough to comment on the SFX and other production value bits (I remember liking S2's OST and OP/EDs a lot more at least), but while the second season had the better overall arcs and writing, S2's animation quality was definitely a step down in many areas from S1's (My personal theory is that their more experienced animators were busy working on Mushoku Tensei)

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Never brought up writing

[topaz linden]

Was just repeating my claim with that part 😅 Like I said, I don't remember enough of the SFX/other production value bits to compare them, so all I can comment on is the quality of the actual animation

[mighty cape]

I rewatched both seasons a month ago

Both seasons are great but S2 was just handled better

[topaz linden]

I'm not saying S1 is better. Personally, rated them ~the same (with S2's first half putting it slightly over S1 in my book). But it did suffer a bit from their talents being assigned elsewhere 👀

Looking through sakugabooru, seems they fixed some of it in the bluray at least.

[mighty cape]

It's not only about animation

Good examples are ||Subaru's talk with Beatrice||, ||The reveal of RbD with Echidna|| and ||Subaru's first death to the Great Rabbit|| (S2 Spoilers for Re:Zero)

Although the animation in the ||final battle with Julius and Subaru against Petelgeuse|| peaked, these scenes were honestly just as good as EP15's ending in S1

S1 had its weird moments and felt less constant than S2

Yes, S2 ended a while ago but I still added spoilers

just to be sure

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Never brought up writing

It's not only about animation
Well, what should I be comparing then? 👀
Personally, I found S1's "weirdness", while awkward at the time, kinda works now as "setup" for the Subaru's character development and growth in S2. So at least personally, the two feel comparable in that sense. (The ||Subaru trials|| portion of S2 was really well done though, which is what puts it a bit above S1 for me. Found the rest of the pacing/story to be about equal with S1 though imo)

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Writing is unrelated to adaptation

[topaz linden]

Writing in this case refers to what is actually shown to the viewer in the episode. I havent read the LN, so I can't comment on that

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||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGoLD1j3IYQ||
If you want to see weird stuff honestly.

I'm speaking adaptation wise

[topaz linden]

So am I. Which is why I'm confused why I can't comment on it? 😅

[mighty cape]

A good anime isn't necessarily a good adaptation

[topaz linden]

...how am I supposed to know if it's a good adaption if, like I said, I havent read the LN? 😅 I'm only talking about how they wrote the episode (script, dialogue, etc)

[mighty cape]

Also I never prohibited you from talking about it, I just reminded you I'm not speaking of writing since it's more pertaining to the source material.

Considering I kind of started or continued the debate... it's not really something I should be worrying about

[mighty cape]

I wrote this 4 minutes ago but I went out to get a drink

well not 4 minutes

3 to be specific

[topaz linden]

Yeah... now I'm just confused what the conversation is about anymore, so I'm just gonna back out.

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You do you honestly

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that was the plan anyway

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Both are great

[ember cairn]

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i joined and saw an anime chat so i immediately came to ask: who here likes neon genesis evangelion.

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It's pretty great

Aside from the ending

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I do but I need to rewatch it

[jovial crane]

missing kaworu and shinji hours

its a shame its like. the only openly gay love and kaworu is fucking killed off anyways.

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houseki no kuni

I recalled Beastars actually having two scenes in 2D in its second season, otherwise it's all 3D and by the same studios that did HnK as well

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you're referring to the "I love Emilia" scene right? I remembered that scene taking quite some time but at least I jived with it

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I'm referring to the "I hate myself" scene

and it was one of my favourite scenes

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ah the one with the emilia lap pillow?

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No

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shit

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Episode 18

S1

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I was sorta right

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Subaru wants to trespass to Mexico after getting a brain freeze from eating too much ice cream

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Cuz that's the one where Subaru was talking to Rem and she's like "lets start from zero"

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Rem stops him by reminding he left his money at the buffoon's house

Yes

Same thing.

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yep that one is really good

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Really was

I'd say it's one of my favourites from S1 but I have like

4 to 5 favourites

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Yeah there were some hard felt moments

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(Wilhelm)

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I remember Wilhelm

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Wilhelm is one of my favourite characters

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He's such a chad

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and I've yet to read Re:Zero EX

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mhm

I'd still wait for a S3 cuz I'm anime only

heard it's also packed

[mighty cape]

I love reading so I don't mind either

just as long as both the anime and the LN or WN make use of their strengths

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yeahh I'm only reading like 3 mangas and that's it

only LN/WN I've read was Cautious Hero

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Haven't read Cautious Hero yet, I'm not really interested

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and one volume of Mushoku Tensei but couldn't be arsed to continue

[mighty cape]

I read MT

don't consider me a fan of it honestly

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yeah from my experience I'd give lotta praise to its worldbuilding

[mighty cape]

Re:Zero's LN / WN is very brutal

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other than that it's isekai at one of its purest form

yeah I had a friend or 2 talked about how brutal the LN is for RZ

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MT is in fact a bunch of trends that were becoming popular at the time put together into one WN

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yeah

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The author is very descriptive

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yeah those friends described what happened to the great rabbit scene I was a tad shocked

||subaru got his ass ate|| like goddamn

[mighty cape]

Yes, chances are you'll read a death and go "what the hell"

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The anime actually did a pretty good job at adapting that

Anime in general though can't afford to be as brutal as LNs I think

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yeah I can agree

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(Cough Overlord)

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lmao

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Overlord LN is really dark but the anime is

more tame

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yeah I can believe that

I think ik someone else who reads it I think

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I've got to reread it, had to pause it two years ago because of school

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mhm

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Anyway, Tanya S2 and Overlord S4 + a movie are coming

it's a good time for Isekai fans

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yep

I should check out Tanya I haven't watched it yet

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It's really fun to watch

for that reason I've been waiting for S2 instead of reading ahead

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nice

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so I recommend it

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so re: zero's your favourite isekai right?

how would you rate the other isekais you watched/read in order?

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I'm not good with favourites

so no idea

same thing with ratings

The Isekai I like the most are pretty standard though, Re:Zero, Overlord, Youjo Senki, Konosuba

Among those 4 I wouldn't say there's one I prefer, I like them for different reasons

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ah yes the main isekai quartet

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I'd say my investment in Konosuba has diminished though, since the LN is over

a new anime's coming

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yep

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They're honestly the best

and they're very different from each other

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re:zero's the only one without a sequel announced in the quartet iirc

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Weell, it got a new season recently

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rezero and cautious hero

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Cautious Hero's just there

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every other isekai introduced got their sequel annoucements

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mhm

Kazuma and Subaru's interactions though...

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it's hilarious

kazuma saying subaru got it all easy

lmfao

[mighty cape]

Yes, Kazuma telling Subaru he's had it easy

such a Kazuma thing to do

if he ever realised he'd apologise in his head a thousands times over

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true dat

we'll see what s3 of isekai quartet would offer

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It's hard to do a bad Isekai Quartet season

so far it's been fun

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https://tenor.com/view/bri-gif-20714423

I love this gif, Q my little meow meow

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wdym

just watch s1 -> s2 p1 -> s2 p2

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not all animes go in proper order

or what we would consider to be proper

a prime example is that of bsd. its like s1 -> s2 -> random ass movie -> s4

I MEANT S3

but anyway you'd think the movie would come last

but it doesnt

but s4 is coming out next year so thats gonna be odd for new fans

because a lot of fans come in not knowing the actual order

i almost didnt.

awful times.

its confusing as shit tho when they dont put in the order of what u would think is normal

and also idk i never watched re:zero

not planning on it

was just responding to the person who was like "wdym just watch" cuz not everyone knows the chronological order due to movies being placed in between seasons sometimes with no explanation or known knowledge beforehand when getting into a series

cuz well. they never seem to explain that. idk why they dont

its hard for new fans to understand if they cant explain

not saying its that persons fault btw just trying to explain that well. its a shame that creators behind these things cant explain the order at all

they just expect u to figure it out

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what

re:zero isn't a series like Toaru or Fate

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I WENT INTO A TANGENT ABT CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER NOT MAKING SENSE SORRY

idk these series to like get into it by order

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🍿

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im just comparing it to bungo 😭

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I found an anime that makes me care again

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because bungo doesnt follow a "normal series" thing

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I’m happy

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its movies in the middle of seasons and shit like that

and they dont even warn u abt it

they like. expect u to just know

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I don't care much about bsd so can't say

[jovial crane]

its odd but its a good series!

its really only for those intrigued in internal warfare between the mafia and other organizations tho

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I feel the majority of the fanbase are Dazai simps lol

but otherwise I can see it being good

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u can like dazai but i hate that they wash his character down

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bungou stray dogs

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they just made him strictly like. "uwu suicidal"

like pls stfu

they ruined that poor man

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https://tenor.com/view/bungou-stray-dogs-osamu-dazai-evil-plan-evil-look-gif-15086474

[jovial crane]

they did not dedicate an entire season to his backstory for yall to make him nothing.

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yeah they made him kinda kek

anyways

re:zero's just s1 -> s2 p1 -> s2 p2

the movies are just side stories

in terms of chronology of the side stories it's up to you tbh LOL

cuz one of them takes place in the mansion when Subaru's chilling there and the other is Emilia back story and stuff

[jovial crane]

fandoms are notorious for ruining anything

anyways.

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yep I agree

like no doubt mha is a fine series but the fandom waters it down

don't remember

kinda?

[solar dew]

Fandoms these days tell me what to avoid if anything

I’ll try things based on my own research

I’ve done little research into next season which I think is good cause I want it to be fairly light

Major buzz kill that Date A Live season 4 got delayed and I don’t see anything I’m interested in thus far

But this upcoming week will be interesting

Will try three or four shows a 1 episode try

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Kinda ||why, but not really how.||