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tidal shore
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u reached the breaking point too I see E_KEKpat

pearl nacelle
limber seal
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nature haves some symmetry.. flowers have some symmetry...
but not all haves symmetry actually real nature haves more evident non perfect symmetry than the perfect one

celest pine
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@limber seal Keep it civil. Calling others' points "bullshit," telling them to "cope harder," and mocking their background isn't okay. Disagree without the hostility. This is your verbal warning.

Let's keep things cool and not let arguments escalate.

limber seal
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this while logic of accusing of using AI -> assumes that drawing embroidery was envisioned from start to be perfect symmetry, when maybe it wasnt cuz reasons lol

pearl nacelle
limber seal
celest pine
pearl nacelle
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You are shifting goal posts

limber seal
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shifting what?

onyx charm
limber seal
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sublimal style of drawing on replicating Nature in a minimal abstract way? by keepig the non symetry?

onyx charm
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ye cuz nature has imperfection. and tangents are part of every drawing, whether the artist make it intentional or not, it is within their nature to create these multiple instance of tangents. if u scroll up to the screenshot by the AI again, it lacks tangents.

and nature has imperfection, which is facts, the imperfection still have consistency due to the gravity of the earth and the way atoms are arranged

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versus the imperfection by AI, it's not in the way that physics, atoms, and the way ur brain is programed, basically nature, would allow it to work.

celest pine
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Honestly it's a bit sad that it was resorted to this, could be due to strict timelines and being overworked. It might be an issue with assistant or who composited it, the animator would have been separate from the one who created the background

onyx charm
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fr, i love this serires A_GaspTao
its unfortunate.

celest pine
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Also I don't understand why we're talking about nature here, that is different from a drawing, unless the argument is that it's meant to look imperfect, the art style this uses would be Art Nouveau and it is fairer to comapre it to that, and Art Nouveau is anything but squiggly or imperfect.

limber seal
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look if they used AI and the intent was to be symetric.. i wil shit on them nons top not only for making so bad...

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but jusr for beeing bad... in geenral at covering their tracks

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but all i say the anime constatly shown stuff where very often "asymetric"

onyx charm
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which is precisely my point all along

limber seal
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ok but u see we argue diferent points.. in world with 50 shades of gray

onyx charm
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thats why i say u r missing the point

celest pine
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Everything else in the episode looks fine, just this particular background, the other usual pattern I know used is posterization of a real background, in this case it must be coming from a real background and generated with most likely a really old Stable Diffusion model, current gen such as nano banana and such doesn't have much of these imperfections anymore

onyx charm
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more precisely my point of why i reply to u in the 1st place

pearl nacelle
limber seal
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my question is how many complained to mods to drag in hime here in our degen discusion of none sayng "agree to disagree"

celest pine
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The trick to doing it is following the lines and where they end up, double lines suddenly and such. That is the biggest tell of Stable Diffusion

limber seal
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s1 again another case of "asymmetry" of showing manual work not pefect

onyx charm
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i hope the backlash is big enough that no studio will pull this stuff again. also they rlly need to pay their animator and artists properly

limber seal
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what for lol?

onyx charm
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generally, i dont like the decrease in quality of a product

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i also dont like artist being underpaidA_GaspTao

limber seal
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for an animation of 2 sec in OP that a group of insane ppl on twiter got triggered? and started a wtich hunt?? t hat all is AI????
how is the new episode so bad compared to old ones?

onyx charm
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i also dont like them losing their job

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the background with unrefine artifacts and unnatural movement of the line work. maybe its not a big deal to u, but personally im an art enthusiast and i like to look at other people's work carefully to analyse their technique, its not a good sight to see their work fall off in terms of technique use

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and yes, i also consider the use of AI to be a decrease in quality so yes.

celest pine
# limber seal s1 again another case of "asymmetry" of showing manual work not pefect

Asymmetry is not the right way to detect SD era of generated works, it would be the linework and random spots where they seemingly start or end, such as in your example in here there is no linework that randomly stops or starts, there's just too many to count to still give it the benefit of the doubt

That is to say, this seems to be a shortcut on a really complicated background, and like I said, usually on a really complicated background like this it would be posterized instead, but to preserve the art direction SD was used instead, but in this case was done poorly and was not cleaned up

limber seal
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wait SD stands for?

celest pine
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Stable Diffusion

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It's a really old model at this point

limber seal
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ah, and ok the red arrows stand for? whats wrong with lines there?
cuz well that feel like average artefacts of zooming to much on a "copy of a copy" thing that eventaly loses something along the way

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i mean we are splitting the hair here still.. no? like factually speaking?
but i am curious stil to understand how that is used as prove of somthing bad
and not just typical "digital" data lose or conversion from analog to digital etc and so on
-> cuz there are so many old analog movies where u freze the frame(pause) and see hilariosu monstrosity on actors faces

celest pine
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Essentially the lines point to linework that doesn't have a coherent structure.

The reason why SD generates this kinds of mistakes is because of how SD works in itself, the "Diffusion" in Stable Diffusion refers to it being a Latent Diffusion Model, where you start with random noise, literally, and "unblur" that noise with the backbone.

This is what CNNs generally do, where convolution (the C) is where you apply a kernel to apply on a pixel in order to either 'unblur' or 'blur' the image down to what you call features.

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If you've ever tried AI image generation, you will see that at the start, it is really really blurry, that is the actual output of the model itself, rather than just their fancy way of showing progress

celest pine
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Artists practice a lot with linework techniques and making their line crisp and/or confident, and why it's the easiest tell, because due to how SD works, it doesn't 'draw lines' but just amalgamates it from approximations of noise, as in literally from noise like this

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If you take a look at an example here, see the scales and how reminiscent it is from the alleged AI background above

limber seal
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ok i dont need ther scales.... the eyes just fuck my brain..

celest pine
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And see how the linework is inconsistent not only in how 'wiggly' it is, but also the color itself, where the tone darkens/lightens and a brush in an art program does not do that

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I think I had a good example somewhere with clothes I just got to find it

limber seal
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i dont knwo if that is AI or poor artist skill it just bothers me the face alone of this dragon..dot even need to look at scales

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but then someone comes in an dsay .-> no no u see the CHN haves this art style and that is why the head is like that.. and BOOM i get roasted in saying that was AI when its just an old style...

celest pine
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Well that's the unfortunate thing is how it makes legitimate things harder to trust, and that maybe the point others do in the first place

limber seal
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yes that was my point also.. that besides the 2 main point from diferent ends(oposite) we where arguing.. there is the whole 50 shades of grey more issues we dont know that we dont even think about its really an AI isue or in geenral competly diferent thing

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beside the most evident spliting hair arguemnt... of 2 sec in OP.. that i dint even watch the episode and dont know cuz i dint finish the old season fully even A_HuDead

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but ppl just decided to burry all anime based on that frame... is riduculous

celest pine
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Compare it with this one where the linework is really confident, despite being squiggly in some parts it doesn't 'look AI' because there isn't random lines, because of how SD works in itself is why we get these extra lines in AI generated works

As in, that's literally how Diffusion works it tries to add information in between each pass it 'deblurs' the image, ever notice why AI generated people have so many wrinkle marks?

celest pine
celest pine
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So like I said, don't think it's the fault of animators but specific person who created that background and composited it, the animator themselves might've not even seen the background at all

limber seal
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yes probably also... i prefer to not lose my shit and give them the benefit of doubt and not go scorched earth burned wells etc.. poisoned fields etc ect tce

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also for ppl saying this is AI -> imagine or assume... for that probability(even if is very low) -> that this not just human error(and not machine used at all AI etc) but actual intent of them doing it on purpose asymmetric wacky etc... for reasons.. be it design intent or wtv , all 100% human made

How would that creator look at this critic int he future? when they know they did nothign wrong yet ppl asummed all the worse...

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Anything you say would be a moot point from now on. to those creators -> cuz they will never care on you "feedback" from this kind of ppl anywhere cuz you your self poisoned the well of trust

onyx charm
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i thought we are talking more specific into the bookworm anime, not the general idea of accusing random artist of using AI, but okay. cuz obviously, the production has decided to use AI for that 2 frame. this is not random accusation, this is pointing out actual fact for the anime having let AI bypass their final screening

personally, i wouldnt even let it past even its just 2 frames. i subscribe to human made art, not random computer generated stuff. the AI usage in this case is not used for the purpose of enhancing the art with intention, it is for the purpose of speeding up cuz the lack of staff and constrain working time. i rather wait for a product to come out rather than a decrease in quality like this.

its like u go out to by a flower vase, and they flower vase is chipped, obviously u wouldnt buy it even if the purpose of it as a flower vase is still fullfilled, would u? cuz its chipped. similarly here, i stand by that, it is a small element, but it is still unwelcome.

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in short, i think the criticism of using AI here is pretty much justify.

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maybe in ur view, it is not much of a difference, but personally, i just dont like it cuz i can see the flaws

craggy mango
limber seal
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what language is that?

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no idea who is that.. is that one of ofshore stdios that did side of work for anime all the OP?

limber seal
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holly fuck i totaly forgot some of the stuff from s3 of bookworm girl with all random the dead pan delivery of life altering issues as if nothing...

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oh and all the random child abuse.. each episode

tidal shore
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once you have any semblance of skill or understanding of drawing, it becomes painfully obvious

pearl nacelle
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😭

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(They lived)

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Mild blood warning

tidal shore
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what's that from again?

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nvm got it from thread

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some peak replies there

limber seal
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wtf

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also who the fuck is adopting who i still dint understand..what this whole nobles oblige works in this anime

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the new season anime is also an improvement over past seasons

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seeing the ppl on twiter mald over a background when anime improved so good its hysterical if not sad also

pearl nacelle
ionic schooner
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Cuz they'd consider them women

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Which is a pro transgender kinda thing

versed snow
pearl nacelle
tidal shore
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me when having long hair and wearing a funky hat = gay or ts

tidal shore
pearl nacelle
limber seal
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and we nearly achieved serendipity with media also rush hour and tropic thunder of clash of cultures in accepting being different etc joking on each other with no maliciousness

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There was the whole pretty boys dandies metrosexual falmeboyant drag queens femboy etc then twinks tomboys twinzies twinkj wtv their name and many more.. cuz ofc IT WAS NOT A BINARY thing ..

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but nope... ppl decided to go and be extremist paint it all under 1 umbrela or u bad cis or wtv new word to say u old type
so if u a boy and like to flowers or wtc crochetery sewing etc... all of suden u need to cut your privates cuz u clearly trans... CUT UR JOHNY NOUUU!!!
and if u girl and like cars or camping in mountains and wtv CUT UR BOOBA!!

tidal shore
limber seal
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tidal shore
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it really comes down to bickering over word definitions, doesn't it

limber seal
limber seal
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an entire anime season in a single episode

ionic schooner
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I'm literally cool

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versed snow
craggy mango
next crescent
next crescent
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Love this dude's mom, she's massive and buff as hell and doesn't know her own strength but is kind kekw

craggy mango
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outer scaffold
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This is why
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limber seal
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do a hero landing is also cool.. but ppl dont do cuz u fucking break your limbs

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shooting a gun or a bazzoka also cool.. ppl dont fucking do it cuz u get arested lol

pearl nacelle
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limber seal
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dumb ppl be writing dumb shit...

tidal shore
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^guy who doesn't know the story

tidal shore
limber seal
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Ok im also done with Isekai as tree... or evolution wtv
i knew it will be half slop but at least the author dint take themselves too seriously at start jokes where there...
now is just cringe serious cringe as fuck and somehow dude started a long war as if he thinks this is the naruto war when lacks al lthe build up cuz its only 40 chapters deep lol

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And i literally could not care on anyone dying...

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actually wishing for MC to die and get actually isekaied maybe author reseting their story wil get better at wirting lol

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ok let me wash my palate of that tunred to shit CHN manga and watch this uptent twiter mass hysterya drama source

pearl nacelle
tidal shore
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nice

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he's got the guts that I don't have xd

limber seal
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okm watched first episode... of this mariage toxin...

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and for 90% of anime i was like...

limber seal
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also curious how in "last" seaon they had the worse version of this with that other squad of "oficial GOV mandate torturers" anime and had even there elss than 10% of the apeal of this anime

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still the crossdresing dude is clearly just BI.. not trans in any way

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the poisoner is clearly straight

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wait wth i got auto censored

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WTH lol wth i swrong with this server? LGTB and cant sayt the L world??

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gay

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and the author is still edgy as fuck

tidal shore
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it's why I don't indulge y'all's attempts at making me share nsfw

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and yes I'm peeved about the strict rules here but what can you do A_HuTaoShrug

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the mechanism makes sense so A_HuTaoShrug

limber seal
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lesbian

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oh ok only the contracted word is nerfed.. wierd srsly weird

limber seal
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americans are crazy drunk with their tabo words

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or wtv derivated in this filtered words makes no fuking sense

tidal shore
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mine is much less based on vibes I'd fathom

limber seal
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crazy crazy?

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drunk drunk?

tidal shore
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i just described it above....

limber seal
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yo wth is this anime with princes and barbarian...

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did they get the wrong genre?

ionic schooner
pearl nacelle
onyx charm
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i mean his sis is a lesbian and the entire point of this story is ||tradition is outdated and dead and theres no reason to follow stupid tradition even tho it is still tradition|| (manga spoiler)

||gero x kinosaki may be the end game|| afterall. which hopefully it is

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||smh kinosaki has the biggest death flag btw.||

pearl nacelle
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😭

onyx charm
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||it may be a doomed yaoi even if they r endgame||

onyx charm
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It's confirmed

limber seal
# onyx charm i mean his sis is a lesbian and the entire point of this story is ||tradition is...

yah i typed that but dicord auto-filtered out my wall of tex essaying and i dint whant to bother to rewrite it with whole sis and rest
but in general my take on this whole drama on no the dude is trans and not just "gay".. is like.. that old story...
..where Gov punishing some soldies after an interview video showed for a few second in smal side of screen that there was a "bad" word writen on missle/rocket that was planed to be launched on some 3rd world vilagers...

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and i am like.... biiitch how about we take a few dozens steps back an dlook at how insane this wholle shit is...

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but yah lets get trigered cuz golbin salyer.. slays goblin...

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or someoen was falsy accused of sex assault in dumabs fucking fictions... and triger half of terminaly online twitaroos

frank musk
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Starting sentenced to be a hero

versed snow
frank musk
pearl nacelle
pearl nacelle
pearl nacelle
# onyx charm i mean his sis is a lesbian and the entire point of this story is ||tradition is...

Plus like

The story has been setting up his grandma, the person who’s forcing her own grandkids to produce an heir whether they want to or not, a longtime potential endgame antagonist too

Especially with how the top assassin clans promote very sketchy things approaching ||eugenics and straight up forced natalism||.

||Gero and Kinosaki ultimately coming to terms that they’ve fallen for eachother down the road would thematically be the biggest “F U” to this part of the underground society and their agenda.|| Especially with how much human connection and agency has been a highlight of the story.

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On one hand, yes he’s expected to produce an heir

Plus ||it’s been especially even more obvious since the Beast Clan arc that just simply following through completely with her wishes is not necessarily the endgame, even if Gero wants to decir it in his own terms||.

tidal shore
frank musk
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He'll either ignore it or double down

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I say the former

next crescent
tidal shore
pearl nacelle
next crescent
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Ikr

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What the hell is dude doing in future space

limber seal
limber seal
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their bigest mistakes in order now are:

  1. listening the complains of trigered crowd on twiters
  2. responding to their demands
  3. not doing proper quality control in post production
tidal shore
tidal shore
# limber seal their bigest mistakes in order now are: 1. listening the complains of trigered ...

I disagree with the first 2 btw
there are layers here you're ignoring like:

  1. setting a precedent in the industry
  2. stealing jobs
  3. decrease in the quality of the craft
  4. the issue of production over customers (not respecting customers is generally a bad business idea anyway)
  5. you're assuming that twitter has any influence (it doesn't)
  6. the loss of respect that comes with AI use
  7. the gray area of legality
  8. Worst case scenario the use of AI could lead to centralization of the production resulting in even worse quality products over time
limber seal
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cuz its so stupid lol cuz i said already a moutain out of molehill

tidal shore
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Bro I'm saying ur wrong
it's not a mountain out of a molehill by any measure (ok I realize this statement is extreme but yk)

limber seal
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mass hysteria over nothing twitarros beeing what they are terminaly online no lifers knowing nothing how life works also cuz well no lifers

tidal shore
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@frank musk bro doesn't see the light it's joever

limber seal
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one of the bigest nothing burger in recent online dramas lol

tidal shore
limber seal
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have u seen the "latest" power point slide shows that wherent even an issue of "AI" and just general geed or idiocy from creators?

tidal shore
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it's a different issue

limber seal
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the issue isnt in AI, the issue in passive bitches eating slop or defending CROPA slop for the the sake of WOKE mentality

tidal shore
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powerpoint slideshows are a manifestation of poor scheduling, funding, and work culture
if anything, that'd make the studios more likely to use AI, not less

limber seal
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look at latest but she trans clearly and not just a gay dude or wtv bi

tidal shore
limber seal
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the society degen is multy layered and AI is just the latest fad to hate the new "bugeyman", instead of focussing on the hand under the puppet of AI... until it still a human hand for now at least.
i know AI can be bad,, but you or others like you dont understand why and just yell "WOLF WOLF WOLF!!" at anything AI related

tidal shore
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uh... how do I even reply to this?
you still keep ignoring every point I've made

limber seal
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call in akkers here and i will respond to you both, in a very direct and simple way

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@frank musk raise your hand i seen u post in tc lunge lol o/

tidal shore
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nah I don't owe you anything, not when my arguments are being ignored in favor of reducing everything to extremism
if you have a meta-perspective then describe it properly
describe this "hand under the puppet of ai" or whatever

limber seal
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cuz its need to be "live"

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they are not ingored, i will just show it "live" better

tidal shore
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sure, whatever

limber seal
tidal shore
# limber seal also how i am an extrmist here -> When you made a multi bullet list of all tha...

When you made a multi bullet list of all that is wrong with them using AI and decanting the industry fall of just cuz of them an dusing them as exampel of fall off..
those are examples of what small actions can lead to, they aren't definite end-points, and all the examples are quite logical if you ask me
also how i am an extrmist here ->
suggesting, based on what I presume to be "vibes", that this is some woke trans whatever thing (or somehting similar to it), or that it's the latest fad to hate on, without providing any plausible and logical explanations for each of those statements
and how u show this falloff if not with twitter outrage lol? but then u say twiter doesnt mater?!?!?!?
because twitter is a social media platform, it's a small percentage of the population from all over the world that engages (and most of the accounts are bots). as such they're not a reliable metric to gauge the "public opinion"
all cuz off a few second baground made with AI in an OP???
what is this referring to? why people could be concerned about AI and what power twitter holds over corporations are separate to an extent. The decisions still have to be made by the executives, and twitter is more of an international platform than one that steers Japan's corporate business
besides the Wit Studio itself has plenty of reasons to not want AI in their works, some of which are present in the 8 points I mentioned. So suggesting that the decision was solely made by twitter is extreme in my opinion

limber seal
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-me: like ppl chill let ppl live its not really that big of a deal and its even just a few second in an OP not full product, there are worse things that need this kind outrage of energy investment dont use it on this nothing burger lol.

-You and rest of enraged "burn the witch" herd: NO NO this haves global ramification! for this small thing we need to punish specifically this studio SO ALL LEARN FROM IT! who cares of others before them that did worse, BURN THIS WITCH!!

..and then im accused of being extremist...

tidal shore
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look, I gave you logical reasons why I perceive you as such
if you want to respond me then do so with logic too, state proper arguments instead of lumping me with "people who cry wolf"
I'm definitely not crying "wolf", and I am definitely providing plenty of angles on the issue, and these opinions weren't cooked overnight either
quite frankly I'm feeling hurt by being lumped with the "reactionary" crowd despite all the evidence that I am anything but

limber seal
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ok lets take a simple point now, "twitter" to not involve other and complicate things... let tag the "twitter" nt important but important line

tidal shore
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for twitter I'd recommend checking out manufacturing consent
the platform as a whole encourages outrage, so of course it should be viewed with those platform-wide incentives in mind

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the userbase is subject to the platform's incentives is what I'm saying

limber seal
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and how u show this falloff if not with twitter outrage lol? but then u say twiter doesnt mater?!?!?!?
because twitter is a social media platform, it's a small percentage of the population from all over the world that engages (and most of the accounts are bots). as such they're not a reliable metric to gauge the "public opinion""

-> how you show disatisfaction with them them in using AI? then???

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protest in front of their studio?

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take trip to japan now? later?

tidal shore
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oh I see, what you're saying is there needs to be a public response that would make the studio want to "save face" or something to that extent, right?

limber seal
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yes and now and evruthing all at once

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fuck..i mistyped but its fun so i wont correct..

tidal shore
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certainly, public outrage might play a role to some extent, but here we would have to focus on Japanese twitter instead
but what about the studio's incentives?
for example, Studio Ghibli values humanity above all else, Miyazaki personally detests the use of AI because he views it as something that diminishes humanity
And then what about the social culture of the country?
an asian culture that relies on shame, cooperation, and "fitting in"
there's multiple things that add up to this, so Ig what I'm saying is that social media isn't the primary thing that guides the corporate decisions
but still, you're right in that social media can be used as a tool to show disapproval. collective action is some of the most persuasive things afterall

limber seal
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btw my main issue with AI let me throw it now but dont react to it for now wil get later on, i just need to get this peble out of my show for now, im not your enemy.. im saying in egenral to people DONT CRY WOLF TOO SOON AND ESPECIALY ON WRONG THING
||my maint point of AI outrage is that its all superficial...mainely... just full on bullshit crying wolf/barking at wrong tree etc etc
ppl only get mad when they see it notice it.. but when dont see it they dont care.. cuz there are such catle...
What i care is the use of AI in general where ppl dont even see it
AND mainly not only how AI that not only helps or steals from OG creator.. for CORPA abuse but also -> impact on society for decades if not centuries to come||

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so anyway back to twiter...

tidal shore
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look, I'm just saying it's a systemic risk, and I'm asking you to view the situation more holistically

limber seal
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social media showed a lot of aproval to that tomboy? jean dark? game and none played it... what is that medieval sowrd game called 14somthing?
1348 Ex Voto!

tidal shore
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look, it's not like I disagree about how reactionary platforms like twitter are

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but what about you? do you disagree that if studios normalize AI in production, that it affects: jobs, quality control, and incentives?

limber seal
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social media was ready to crucif expedition 33, when found a few AI stupid images? posters? even if the STUDIO where the apothesois batant example of INDY fight ANTI corpa movement...

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fuck... me and my memory

tidal shore
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also, am I to take it that you don't understand, or maybe disagree with why people are annoyed about the usage of AI in this specific situation? or other situations idk

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if so, then I've provided like 8 different points and 3 essays on why people might disagree with it

limber seal
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ahh 1348 Ex Voto

tidal shore
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?

limber seal
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i needed proper name to shit on it and "social" thingy

tidal shore
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do you though?

limber seal
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cant just be to vague on certain things.. edited my above comment

tidal shore
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speaking of vague, you do resort to many labels
I wouldn't mind if you were able to argue all of those labels though

limber seal
tidal shore
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so something like what Corridor Digital did? except it was much more transformative

limber seal
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translation for more? keep in-house Authro uses AI/rboot and not giving money to CORPA midle men that try to teach the authro what "modern audience" whants

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need better animation? same train AI.. dont use COPRA umbrela that turn abusive/exploative etc

tidal shore
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yea but using AI could lead to more corpa abuse
good example would be: more workload for the same pay, and also a decrease in quality due to time constraints, since corpos love to squeeze people out as much as they can (human labour is most costly after all)

limber seal
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have god wirting skills no drawing at all? coupl with an artist u like.. and ask them do wtv train AI model or do manualy tedrawn fill in colors polish all alone.. they 2 choose it

tidal shore
limber seal
tidal shore
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u wot xd

limber seal
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Simple -> ask CORPA how u got your AI so good?? u disregarded copy right globaly biitch... and trained your model on all free shit on internet!
BIITCH ITS NOT YOURS ITS OURS AI!

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1 country enough to do this stance vs AI CROPA lords -> and u REKT out of all AI corpa

tidal shore
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and I'm suggesting that the twitter mob gets outraged for the same reasons

limber seal
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im saying sheeps wil be sheep and be epxloited by smarter well funded bad actors...
like broken clock they may bark at right tree tree once or twice a day but all rest time they will just brainlesly do what a mob does... eat shit slop

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is that enough borken reference or want more?

tidal shore
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@limber seal

limber seal
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dint i respond above already? u eman they fear for bad future if AI abuse...
and i said in very flavored way -> "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
cuz meanwhile the social mob i seen them more with the mentlaity of "burn the witch" and not throw the tea in the water||(not liek that is good examnple also in this case cuz they still took its beef with wrong target even then lol)||

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they mostly always get super focused on wrong target

tidal shore
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yea Ig the underlying perspectives from which people argue on twitter wouldn't come out easily
since as I mentioned earlier, platform incentives for outrage

limber seal
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but then my point was... still... "the customer is right in maters of taste"....

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there are worse examples ppl should be outrated.. this DEV decided to play this card.. let them see how viewership sales end at END

tidal shore
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yea but that's for food

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I mean, series that don't get traction (revenue) get axed so it's still true

limber seal
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there are ppl who like 50 shades opf gray and ppl who liek wreslting mania and ppl who like gore fest etc...

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there are ppl who like wtv italian brainrot AI... and thow who like cocomelon.. and those who like frienship is pony magic wtv... even if above 20 lol

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for me i see them all as shit doesent mater where it comes from

tidal shore
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so to sum it up (correct me if I'm wrong):

  • you don't disagree that using AI has real long-term impact
  • you don't disagree that twitter as a platform encourages outrage
  • and you don't disagree that collective action is effective
    so where you disagree with is how people argue about it, or why, or what positions they hold in the first place on those platforms?
limber seal
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its still an ""the customer is right in maters of taste"...."

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"it depends" thats all i say

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i argumented them above alredy.. wants me ti spell each above point agaIN?^

tidal shore
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it always depends, but I'd like to establish some common ground on where we agree, and I'd need confirmation from you on that part if you want our conversation to be productive

limber seal
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ofc it always mater on the "how"

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yews u need to educate your kids.. and not harm them..
but oen thing is beat the shit out of your kid on buss.... or let your kid throw down all rpoduct ons hels in supermarket and say violence is wrong...

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there are proper and wrong way always..not binary... many grey shades of good and bad choices

tidal shore
# limber seal 1 -> it depends ...for a few second in some dump OP as curent internet drama? no...

it depends ...for a few second in some dump OP as curent internet drama? no it doesnt mater
but what about setting the precedent, or changing the industry standard as a result? you know how it goes with things once they're "permitted"
like sure, I'm all for moderation and good-faith usage, but just focusing on that isn't holistic enough for me
it depends- how its used.. just cuz it hits 1 important target doesnt means it can also harm an inocent later.. but curent score is more like 1 right target 9 wrong targets
yea this is more where I'm focusing on platform incentives than the targets and what people talk about. and refer to my point 2 verses higher with the holistic thing and other messages about platform incentives.
also Imo a healthy discourse is impossible on twitter
it's also why I don't consider it a representative sample of the population (although there are arguments to be made based on the communities, since some communities are more online than others)
it depends same as 2
that'd be cuz the de-facto decision makers within the studios/companies/institutions have the last say, right?

ionic schooner
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I ain't reading allat...

tidal shore
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hi coco xd

tidal shore
ionic schooner
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Nowadays Gemini saves ur conversations for later tho even if u close the tab I think

tidal shore
tidal shore
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recently I found out that Copilot can "remember" different conversations, even after you delete them

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it creeped me out tbh

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is it joever for gemini now?

ionic schooner
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Skynet terminator when

tidal shore
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coco quick take over gemini and become the skynet

limber seal
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ofc buring too much oil is bad or dumping oil in rivers or ocean is bad etc....and so on abuse
BUT when u have this dumb fuck green protestors -> go to museum or open arts and throw pain on it to protest or glue them selves to said art works....
HOW that helps yuour cause? how that punishes CORPA etc... and not just makes all normal ppl hate not just your dumb ass but also your whole movement????

tidal shore
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the idea is to make noise, not to punish
and certainly it's not a good look, but any press is good press as you know it

limber seal
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If you are such green vega etc.. how going to the a street food dude camper.. or local pizeria and yell at ppl for eating meat there helps?
how throwing paint on ppl wearing leather full etc helps your cause???
You udnerstand that even if u are a rebel teen and your echo chamber cheers you... HOW THE not just GLOBALY but even localy helps you raise awernes for ppl agasint animal abuse??? instead of them heting your dumb protestor ass more and buying more of animal product instead after your ations??

tidal shore
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why the skull? I'm right!

tidal shore
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although the decision-making power is at the policy level, so... talking with government officials, anyway having organisations and social backing n stuff can help too

limber seal
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you are still mounting he teen angst rebel OS.. update it... plz C_HuPepega

tidal shore
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bro it's not like I'm disagreeing 💀

limber seal
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i know.. but u deserve this roast.. u cant defend the first point in no way there lolz

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its deferent from saying i understan dtheir spirit lol.. but yah terible aplcation..
vs any publicity is good one lol

tidal shore
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anyway, at the local level (so something like collective action for example) with issues like with oil and food, it would be much harder to enforce change via collective action due to different poverty levels, the availability of products, the personal diet choices of people, etc
in the end the most productive thing is to change the law and manufacturing

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this is why solar and EVs became popular, manufacturing improvements are what made it viable, and this is what's also forcing the governments to adapt too

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it's just one example tho

limber seal
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to first points the most clear its -> biitch just show how animals are threat in those industries

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like u literaly show facts... and no personal direct harm to consumers yelling stalking runing their products etc

tidal shore
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that said Ena, you know that's like 0.1% of the crazies in any movement (unelss it's a conspiracy theory then everyone's crazy)

tidal shore
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online activists especially have a persuasive power

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and then that leads to more ykyk

limber seal
tidal shore
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did I defend them? it's true that in some contexts any press is good press (look Logan Paul)

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or the infamous redo of healer

limber seal
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very 2 diferent things

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its not just aples and oranges... its more like meat boy vs grany in park

tidal shore
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both validate my point tho
and it's not like I don't condemn extreme activists, it's just not the angle/layer I usually think from so it doesn't occur to me to say it first A_HuThumbsup

tidal shore
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AI in anime chat, we're still here

tidal shore
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shush Ena I'm saving your ass here A_HuTaoStareIntense

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don't wake the mods

limber seal
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with anime at end i mean

tidal shore
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sure sure

limber seal
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cuz we ket claling back to other twitaroos vs anime controversies

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literaly same day with trans vs gay/BI

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and then so on past examples

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actualy..

tidal shore
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I may as well say it tho
you realized that I default to systems-style thinking, right?

limber seal
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PLEASE link me a good exmaple where twiter outrage was justified in persecuting its target??

tidal shore
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dunno man I don't use twitter

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for anything other than art

limber seal
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social in geenral

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i keep saying tiwter but i queate that in general to internat mob outrage

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best english typing example rigth there

tidal shore
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ah fair enough

limber seal
tidal shore
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there's no text, my timeline is images only

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and any examples I do remember were reactions to reactions about real world events

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or they're too political to bring up here

limber seal
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anything is political deep down of not right in your face just cuz its proves one side wrong so they say "hey no politics!"

tidal shore
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wouldn't you be more qualified to bring up examples? seeing how much you talk about it (which indicates to me that you must engage with it a lot)

limber seal
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wasnt this whole speech about "shaming" creators for using AI? and thus implictitly means to use web social media enraged crowds? to yell "Wolf" at them?

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this whole thing since started this weak is basicaly this

tidal shore
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yea and I thought we closed it already tbh

limber seal
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so we both right? or its a 50m 50?

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i dint keep the score there i just ranted and yaped and etc

tidal shore
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I dunno. On my end I see where I agree and where I have a suspicion that you might be missing the more holistic picture. You on your end probably have your own thoughts too.
I don't really keep scores with things like this. I just go by the vibes on whether we attained "mutual understanding" or not.

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I mean, tbh, my entire reason for debating with anyone is usually to obtain a better perspective myself and achieve mutual understanding

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and sometimes to offer something from myself when I think the other person may perhaps be not focusing on the whole picture (from where I stand)

limber seal
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bruh how is that this remake of fist of north star IS STILL WORSE than OG?!?!?!

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the OP is worse..

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the presentation of worls is worse

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the audio/sound accompany the images is soulles

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even the meme image of you already dead "NANI" is worse

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i on purpose watched fully the OG ep 1 and its still better even now, and somehow the new version managed to cut of some moments for nothing

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the only good thing is when the images goes pseudo black and white before fight starts seemed decent rest is so bad...

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40 fcking years latter and still a worse product

next crescent
limber seal
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wash your mouth!! one of the best uncensored with bullshit revenge stories

ionic schooner
next crescent
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Just going to make sure, Redo of Healer was the one where there's just blatant sexual assault and abuse throughout the show, right

limber seal
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im tired of half assed villains portrayal in modern stories

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someone who clearly got in their position by massacring "villages" left and right.. where all kinda of abuse happened... clearly
all of sudden in certain scene cant be racist can say any bad word and clearly no no no to sexual assault.. cuz modern audience doesn't like even the implication of that on screen in the clearly not just insane super fictional stories.. but not even in this fucking not just world but universe even

pearl nacelle
tidal shore
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revenge stories are always

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full on revenge leaves a poor taste in my mouth

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while "I'll be the bigger person and forgive you" is also anti-climactic asf

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Y'all know of any that have a good balance?

limber seal
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old classic no?

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count of monte cristo

ionic schooner
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Das crazy

limber seal
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do tell then

ionic schooner
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Wait it wasn't about well written anime villians

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It was about villians that r right

limber seal
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yah wtv same do tell

ionic schooner
# limber seal yah wtv same do tell

Anime and manga is full of inspiring heroes. Those are the good guys... or are they? What happens when the bad guys make more sense than everyone else? What if you relate to them more? What if you start to see yourself in them? Or even worse, what happens when the villain is actually right?

Check out my Mangaka Training Arc ► patreon.com/Pave...

▶ Play video
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I put this guys videos in the background when I'm grinding a game

limber seal
ionic schooner
limber seal
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ooh its his mic...

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understandable.. i guess...

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i always had this skit about how ppl use their mic in news v ideo for phones smalels one etc...

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where you keep diferent kind of vegies fruits nuts seeds etc as if they are mic

ionic schooner
next crescent
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All I remember is it being like 90% shock value

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After hearing it pretty much just shoves assault in your face on top of the abuse and things, I refused to watch it

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Like idm if it's implied and the story itself is good but like 😭

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All I heard was bad stuff about it

pearl nacelle
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I remember statistics showing it was especially popular with a sizable female audience A_HuKek

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😭

next crescent
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But still, not my cup of tea

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I don't like outright abuse in response to more abuse. "An eye for an eye" sort of thing. Unless someone is trying to kill you or assault you in the moment, I don't condone that sort of thing

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Which is why, when people were explaining the show to me, it was immediately a hard pass for me

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Even if it's for revenge, something like sexual assault just isn't it/excusable

next crescent
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But also what does all of that say I don't speak whatever language this is

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Is that Hindi?

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Or Filipino maybe

pearl nacelle
onyx charm
onyx charm
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the animation is so good tho

frank musk
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Me scarfing down my food while watching the faeries scarf down the holy knights

onyx charm
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its very grotesque

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even tho theres barely blood

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those monster design are just insects merge with whatever

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but insects yknow insects. do u happen to torture flies when u were youngseer

outer scaffold
outer scaffold
outer scaffold
next crescent
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No

outer scaffold
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Booktok is a fandom where readers (mostly women) read... "ecchi" books but in the form of written instead of drawn

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The S word for the genre

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Why is the S word banned but not ecchi?

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It's the same shit

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If a booktoker should watch anime, the first anime they will pick is ofc ROH

next crescent
limber seal
onyx charm
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I think the main issue is only the main issue if u make it be a main issue.

u seems to be very focused on these fandom/headcanon discourse. but the way u phrase it i also dont rlly undersand enough to make a proper discussion even when i backread :')))

limber seal
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because that was the whole point of the initial tweet posted in here that started this argument?

next crescent
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No

tidal shore
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just "No" XD

next crescent
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😭

tidal shore
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if that's what u meant tho, Ena, then it definitely didn't come across that way since even vwino who you seem to be implicitly agreeing with isn't seeing it

next crescent
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Bro had a Rick astley pfp I wasn't doing shit

tidal shore
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ong

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I have a friend with a Rick Astley pfp

next crescent
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Do they go around telling people to look at their profile?

tidal shore
tidal shore
next crescent
tidal shore
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oh

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lowkey I gut reaction block any bot I see so I wouldn't have noticed A_HuCry

next crescent
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LOL no problem

tidal shore
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me when curiosity is dead

limber seal
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the continuous broken telephone game i see played is just THAT impressive

frank musk
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Like i said

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MTL

outer scaffold
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So, I just learned a band called Kiyoshi Ryujin 25, IT'S A BAND WHERE THE MAIN CENTER MEMBER, A SINGLE MAN CALLED KIYOSHI RYUJIN (Same name as the band) REFERRED TO THE REST OF THE MEMBERS AS HIS WIVES

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HE LITERALLY PROPOSED TO THEM

frank musk
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truly the center of attention

limber seal
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so 25 was his age when made the band?

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or 25 refusals before decided to make the band?

tidal shore
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harem life just sounds annoying ngl

next crescent
next crescent
outer scaffold
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You can read this

next crescent
tidal shore
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how so?

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I'm just like... double people = double trouble
more and it's especially a pain if you want to be a good partner

limber seal
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ok so...

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This season we got
Remake of Kenshiro Fist of North star...
Ynuyasha restart...
and Isekai FMA?

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what other big thing did i miss???

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me: im sorry but i read it as "Die Hard Balls" ..and that will be your name forever

next crescent
# tidal shore really?

I've known some people who were in polygamous relationships with many women/trans men and a single cis man and unless all the people involved are very easy-going and mentally stable, each person can get very jealous about how much attention they are getting instead of the others and start feeling insecure and desperate

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To the point of leaving in some cases because they couldn't deal with it anymore

pearl nacelle
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Yeah nah. Putting up with and learning to manage healthy 1v1 relationships can be hard already.

I tip my hat out to those who managed to make it work with a 3rd party or more for years A_HuKek

tidal shore
pearl nacelle
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On that note

Slight personal rant: I don’t really see the appeal much of polyamory/harem endings when it comes to these kinda romcom titles. If all parties are at least invested in each other and emotionally connected that’s one thing, but it feels like a pretty easy way to be a cop out ending for a lot of the stuff I’ve read or watched that it’d be forced lol

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I’m especially iffy when it comes to the whole “rely on one person to make y’all happy” angle

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IMO I’m okay with there being some characters on the “losing” end but I feel much better when they’re portrayed to have a life and interests that’ll carry on even without the MC

Also cool if they also fall in love with another character that’s also present along the way too

next crescent
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Yeah

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Like if the story is genuinely driven with good characters that have depth and various personal interests, I'd be invested

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But whenever I see anything having to do with comics containing polyamory as the main plot, the characters are usually all one note and have no substance to them and anything that happens is done just to make something happen and no growth or anything of import actually occurs after 😭

tidal shore
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small clarification request: when you say "one note" what does this mean? Is it the character has 1 arc only, or the character is just there for the sake of being there (e.g. no plot involvement, no emotional connection, no relationships explored)?

pearl nacelle
next crescent
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They have no depth to them and it's a single attribute that defines the entire character

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"she's the fat one" and the entire character's thing is just that they eat a lot and nothing else, no interests or hobbies outside of that. The character barely has a personality outside of eating food and how that makes them feel. The entire cast makes fun of that character for being fat and nothing else comes out of it. Etc etc

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One note just means no depth, they are a single thing that makes them, them

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Unless it's done well with witty storytelling and is the whole point of the show, it's usually a really boring thing to do with characters

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A lot of the time, I see it used to describe characters that are "dumb" and literally nothing else

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Like you have no way to describe the character's personality or part in the show/story aside from "they're the fat/dumb/lazy/aggressive/happy/etc one"

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They have nothing to them

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Hence, one note

tidal shore
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ah yeah one note sidekicks

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easiest to write too, lowest effort required

pearl nacelle
# next crescent A character that has a single attribute like "she's very nervous" and the entire...

This reminds me of sth I really like about a lot of Marriagetoxin’s female cast.

To use your “shy girl” as an example, Shiori appears to be largely that at a glance, but all things considered she’s really a young woman who has to deal with her dad’s passing, pressure of inheriting his comically powerful company, and struggling to socialize with those in her uni.

But after the positive influence she get being around the two main leads, she doesn’t rely on them on a clutch to grow or change sth about herself, you actually see how much she’s trying to fortify her own backbone and take agency. She might look silly at first she really pulls through. Even when her life is at risk when she’s being targeted by one of the funny super assassins.

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Also she got mad extreme biking skill E_ScaraChaos

next crescent
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They have no hobbies outside of the trait they're assigned

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No talents or anything unless it's for a gag

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But I also tend to find them boring unless it's part of a well-written gimmick

pearl nacelle
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Ya

Gets worse when you spot these in titles that are actually seem to be trying to convince you it’s taking itself seriously with these characters when their track record has been buns 😭

tidal shore
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to the one note characters' credit, they do have a few good uses
namely, they're consistent, which makes them predictable, and as such they feel "safe"
they can be good comic relief
they're also fun mascots

next crescent
pearl nacelle
craggy mango
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i mean if its okay now to give spoiler on airing series, i wont hold back too in future

pearl nacelle
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It’s actually sth fairly consistent you’ll see across many of how the heroines in the ‘first act’ play out (though there are noticeable differences between them too mind you):

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The manga cares about not treating its heroines as trophies/decoration and gives them nice coverage/motivations outside of interacting with the main character by the end of the day

ionic schooner
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My marriage truly was

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A toxin

pearl nacelle
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Consider a divorce

ionic schooner
pearl nacelle
craggy mango
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next crescent
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one of my favorite dumbasses

outer scaffold
versed snow
onyx charm
limber seal
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like how so many ppl watched that dumabss anime mirai niki comapred to all the rest better stuf

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onyx charm
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after all those discussion u still miss the main point but its okay

frank musk
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incoming thats not the point gif

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I mean even talking to a mod, idt hes learned anything

tidal shore
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me when communication

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that had a lot more AI bgs than I thought <- guy who never saw the intro btw

frank musk
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Im assuming all the bgs were done by one person, so studio wit is just replacing all of the bgs on the assumption that AI was used on all of them

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But looking at the comparison now, ena makes a good point with the photo he sent (the following statements are what im assuming is what he meant), the new one looks like a rushed replacement to quell the outrage from the old one, i wouldve much preferred that they went "ok so we have seen that some portions of the OP was AI, so we will take the time to replace the bgs, so expect a new OP in the coming weeks", the new one clearly looks like it was done in a few days

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Now ppl online saying the old one looks better cuz of the rushed job they did with the new one

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We couldve avoided this shitshow if they didnt use AI in the first place

frank musk
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Anyways

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Context: person in the box screwed up at work and is embarrassed to show her face to the guy (shes drunk)

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Sauce: Shachou to Sake to Hoshi (its ecchi just a heads up)

ionic schooner
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😔

pearl nacelle
onyx charm
pearl nacelle
tidal shore
tidal shore
tidal shore
ionic schooner
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Count

pearl nacelle
ionic schooner
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All of them

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Cuz like

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The later parts have different main characters

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Than the original Johnathan joestar

pearl nacelle
frank musk
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Wait

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Technically hes not wrong

tidal shore
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I still remember Joseph most fondly

ionic schooner
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It's funny how Johnathan would probably not run away

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But he still calls it the joestar technique as if all of them do that

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I guess he was the only alive joestar tho

limber seal
# frank musk We couldve avoided this shitshow if they didnt use AI in the first place

agre... best ->best sacenario
but since we where at the point where in rweal life and the mistake was done...
They could ahve come out with just no aknowledging it
second best deply an CORPA legalese speech and say something like "we are investigating it" -> and never fix never change it
just wait and see how in general will be the viewership and then work from there at end

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cuz like i said i dont liek this "Outargaed mobs on social web" then say burn the witch to 9 wrong things after take 1 right

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and i would not defend such brainless mobs even if was in reverse

tidal shore
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🔐

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🔑

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hmm.......

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why is this emoji blocked wtf

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key2

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wtf

tidal shore
ionic schooner
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that was bannable

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i remember the drama

limber seal
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ppl are fking crazy

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do tell to i wana laugh

tidal shore
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someone spill the beans

ionic schooner
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do u want me to dm

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i cant say it here

tidal shore
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coco dm I'm high

limber seal
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meh where is the fun tho

limber seal
ionic schooner
tidal shore
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I've been DM'd

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it's the dumbest thing truly

ionic schooner
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ya

tidal shore
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only wfp could come up with this

ionic schooner
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but they kept spamming it so it got banned

tidal shore
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lynch the perps

ionic schooner
tidal shore
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I want my gothic key back

tidal shore
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what did you do?

tidal shore
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gross

limber seal
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Daemons of the Shadow Realm is peak anime

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i realy wanna see how the author will manage to white wash this bitch after she butchered so many ppl

pearl nacelle
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Imagine she doesn’t

outer scaffold
outer scaffold
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Making a bad person suddenly good

next crescent
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that's an interesting use of the word wash kekw

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at least in that context

next crescent
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i usually only see it used in a negative way

ionic schooner
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Make a good guy bad

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🗣️

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limber seal
outer scaffold
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Saizeriya is entering Indonesia!!

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I heard that this is a cheap but good restaurant in Japan

limber seal
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never understood why ppl where shitting on "school days"

onyx charm
# limber seal agre... best ->best sacenario but since we where at the point where in rweal li...

hmmm if u want this to work, u would require a society which values material over quality like the USA. WIT studio is from Japan yk. and u already know Japan has a culture that is very hostile when it comes to products/service being falsely advertised. This is the same country that will rally their entire train station staff to did a 90 degree bow at the customer when the train is literally 1 min late. I dont think ignoring the use of AI in a product that ppl expect human art is going to do anything good for WIT studio.

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addressing it is very important unless WIT studio wants to burn their yrs of reputation to ashes.

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i also want to address that WIT studio portfolio is has many bangers big anime. u already know that it has the same status as MAPPA, Ufortable, Kyoani. studio Triggers when it comes to their animation quality. when ppl hear WIT studio, they literally expect good animation with a reason, not whatever low quality slops.

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having those AI bg go literally against their branding

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in short, they aint small enough to pull ur suggestion imo

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wait sentenced to be a hero will get a 2nd season???

scenic crescent
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mid piece

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🥀

tidal shore
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holy shit the voices make my ears bleed

versed snow
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frank musk
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Speaks a lot about their quality control

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There is also the possibility that they did in fact find it during quality control and chose to ignore it, out of being afraid to speak up (sadly a japanese work culture thing) and snitch on the artist who did it

tidal shore
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ghost ping?

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@versed snow could've left it here

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I'm just a hater for omega high pitched voices

frank musk
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Not anime but did yall see those ATLA movie leaks?

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Man i cant wait for when it comes out in october

tidal shore
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saw Overanalyzing Avatar overanalyze what came out already, nothing outside of that

tidal shore
frank musk
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Leaked entire scenes

versed snow
tidal shore
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oh

frank musk
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gg

tidal shore
versed snow
tidal shore
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weird if not related

frank musk
tidal shore
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ripge

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as someone who doesn't bother with cinema I'll never understand the extent of your plight, but I sympathise

tidal shore
next crescent
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No, I just saw absolutely no one talking about it getting a season 4 A_WheezeTao

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And that it was so close to releasing

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Or at least I don't remember anyone talking about it

tidal shore
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it's been

next crescent
tidal shore
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10 years? since the first season released

next crescent
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Probably

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I remember watching the first season and being excited for the second

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The second season released and I was less excited

tidal shore
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pulling an AoT with the time gap attention loss

next crescent
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Then the third released and I didn't really care anymore but still saw people talk about it

tidal shore
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damn you got far

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I didn't even get onto S2

next crescent
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Season 2 was.. okay

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It wasn't anywhere near season 1 levels though

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At least imo

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Then something something magical door only the female MC can open something something she finally has a purpose in the story other than being the male lead's damsel in distress romantic interest something something we still don't get to see the goat, Rem, being a goat

frank musk
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And thats despite the rising cinema tickets prices

limber seal
next crescent
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Yeah, movie theaters used to be incredibly strong and malls were like the place to be, but after COVID they've shut down so many because nobody goes to them anymore

limber seal
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needed to google it and be like...

next crescent
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They're all going out of business and being torn down and replaced with things like Costcos

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Like, for the few that are still in business that I occasionally go to with my grandparents and cousins, a ticket is $14+ per person and you won't want to get food because even a water is $5 😭

next crescent
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And I only just recently found out that there's a drive-in movie theater that still exists and is probably one of the few left in the country about a half hour from me

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I thought they all went "extinct" because I only ever saw them in moves from the 80s and beyond

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So hopefully that one lasts a while longer lol

tidal shore
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huh I'd expect theaters to be available mostly everywhere

next crescent
tidal shore
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you gonna go?

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if anything, I've always seen them mostly as romantic (thank you games)

next crescent
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There used to be two but one shut down and the other tried to shut down because it was, I shit you not, on an ancient burial ground and the owner said they didn't want the land anymore but she couldn't sell it so she's just reopening the theater again this summer 😭

next crescent
# tidal shore you gonna go?

Tempted depending on what movies they show, he told me they actually do show some modern ones and ones you'd find in a theater rn

limber seal
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Rol over and die had such a good start.. but just got butchered towards the end

limber seal
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ok... duno what happend with this anime but mid season Release that witch anime CHN dubbing is worse than eng dubbin and lip sync in genshin

limber seal
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ok quick internet search... such sad state of affairs.. aparelty ends with ep8..and what its aired was alredy mad ein fucking 2022... 4 years ago..

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they "simply" had internal drama with homie investors and they chickened out..

ionic schooner
limber seal
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wierd cuz at start i thougt the studio was same as for Lord of mysteries

sullen wyvern
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Glad to know it's still kicking if nothing else

limber seal
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bruuuh.... i dont wanan read another CHN novel with 1k + chapters..

next crescent
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Yeee

pearl nacelle
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He’s so distinct

onyx charm
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hot tan manC_HuPepeSmile

versed snow
versed snow
ionic schooner
craggy mango
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i hope he got enough resources like Gigguk did with Baan

tidal shore
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wtf

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jack spedicey sure is trying new stuff

sullen wyvern
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Why does this exist

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In other news, the entire ATLA movie leaked via an email and is now all over Twitter. Somebody's getting fired lmao

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Its legit and I was able to find it with a single search. I guess the last few days it was just clips but now it's the whole thing

frank musk
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Gonna try my best to avoid it then

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Apparently this isnt even the first time a nickelodeon movie got leaked, one of the spongebob movies in got leaked a year before it was supposed to release A_GaspTao

versed snow
craggy mango
limber seal
outer scaffold
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I shared it here because it has storyboards for those who are interested

ionic schooner
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It probably won't get a full anime adaptation because ||it's an alternate route and not part of the main route the anime follows||

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It's in the opening of the new season tho

limber seal
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oh, dint read spoielrs cuz dont whant to spoil it.. one of few isekay with decent plot

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so il wait to see if something cool happens with that stairs scene in anime this season, since they put it in OP

limber seal
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is that some iconic anime moment or what?

frank musk
craggy mango
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i posted it when Frieren season 1 was airing, im too lazy to dig it

tidal shore
frank musk
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"ur series is dogshit"
"at least we get new seasons"

craggy mango
limber seal
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its troll image

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cuz i was about to also say no fuckign way rent a girlfriend is so popular... but then.. just realized ofc its trolling lol

scenic crescent
limber seal
limber seal
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but now is so fuckign stupid look at it and understand how fucking extra it is lol

limber seal
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ok Witch Hat Atelier is the only one in its "franchise"(?atelier) that dint make be sleep out of boredom during its first episodes ,, the start is stil stupid as fuck she should have know better amd not to play with random spells
the very very start with the narrator speaking about pop idols and astronauts is honestly even dumber cuz it ruins all the magic.. literally and literally
The way apparently all know right away about here is off-putting(cuz if later we have a moment where the info should been shared t others like in our age with phones in each pocket but then its not il get mad)
The dude who haves a window teleport with only 3? modes and one of them is "wasted" rigth away on that dangerous white tower with monster guarding it better have a good reason in plot and not just "look cool shit be cool"

limber seal
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and ofc ep3 already falls flat on its face with what i said above...
its not just her being stupid acting like a dumbass as newbie, the other girls also clearly dint have any OSHA education...
nor the dude who dint miss a beat to tell to to magic world that he got an extra girl.. could not leave any SOS device for the other girls to call him in if something urgent needed his presence...
||And ofc this dumb bitch since the drawing on shoes got ruined.. first though tis to drawn it directly on her own feet.. AS IF THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE ffs.. i swear this dumb bitch is too dumb... -> and its not like she is even some sort of "modern audience" that grew with a sliver spood fed by others and cleaning her ass until 5 as in our age -> she clearly grew in a "hands on the job" household with mom being an seamstress or wtv the crafting name.. sewing and cutting with scissors all the time so SHE knows what self harm is clearly... ||

i swear i diss more this pseudo intellectual wanna be authors that have 0 coherence in their story telling then those who just start with 0 brain cells.. kuz u know slop is slop and dont expect too much

tidal shore
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we're eating good today

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pearl nacelle
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shadow knot
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not anime but at least ATLA movie looks nice

versed snow
tidal shore
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thigh cam

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lol

versed snow
limber seal
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i read it all in few hours cuz why wait 2 years

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also since u dint see me rant about it like i usually do about others it means its far from being a disappointment

limber seal
frank musk
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i literally searched "atla movie leak" and theres 4 links

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dawg wasnt even trying

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and no dont tell me to send the link

next crescent
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You mean the animated one where they've grown into adults, yeah?

limber seal
frank musk
next crescent
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And I think most people would rather forget existed lol

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I didn't know if you meant the animated one or if producers were trying for a second live action attempt 😭

frank musk
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There is no live action atla movie

next crescent
frank musk
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There were at least some cool moments in the atla live action series and a notably very good one ep, but ultimately i was let down by that one as well

limber seal
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i dont even rember why they needed to makle kora...

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wasnt the ATLA story finished to a point?

tidal shore
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was that the ATLA recap episode?

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i think

frank musk
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Yep the Ember Island ep

tidal shore
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nice

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I'm ATLA encyclopedia ask me anything

limber seal
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truer words where neevr said

pearl nacelle
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Latest episode of Rent a GF

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💀

frank musk
pearl nacelle
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iykyk

frank musk
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RaG's "No, I don't want that" moment

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I remember speed reading the chapter, then suddenly stopping at that page and just laughing for minutes

tidal shore
limber seal
# versed snow https://vxtwitter.com/animetv_jp/status/2043744990245839109

i thought this artist was the same for this other anime in same season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4y11mtLkGQ

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im tone deaf i gues...

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cuz i thought this other past seaons anime was same singer...
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ok...but someone tell me im not actualy that bad...

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cuz it feels their way of singing is very similar--- for this songs at least

frank musk
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But almost all the major threads have been solved iirc

craggy mango
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cant send it here but they also animated the other scene of that A_WheezeTao A_WheezeTao A_WheezeTao

frank musk
# limber seal i dont even rember why they needed to makle kora...

Sorry late answer, i think one of the reasons they wanted to do TLOK (aside from just more Avatar content) was to create more worldbuilding for the spirit world and explore more of the avatar's origins (like the lion turtles like the aang met before his fight with ozai)

limber seal
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so then technically KORA was a literal milking the franchise?

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since the OG was completed

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no lose ends etc

frank musk
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Well yes and no

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It explored enough new stuff that it didnt just end up as some form of nostalgia bait, the themes were more dark and mature (that p'li death is wild to me even till today)

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Personally im more worried with Seven Havens (the upcoming 3rd series) and what they will try to expand on the Avatar lore

frank musk
limber seal
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wow that long ago?

limber seal
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i mean i watched it long after it finished a few years... and then dint kare about kora.. cuz well i dont know...
ALTA was ok but nothing to have me ask for more...

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i think its a miracle i even ended that.. cuz on clone wars that all hyped up was one of the dumbest shit i seen... ofc not that dumb ass the trio live SW prequels

next crescent
next crescent
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I love this talking otter monster

pearl nacelle
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Bros straight up butchered the Spirits so bad man

limber seal
# versed snow Nah its not

yes i mean i said it C_HuPepega cuz the names writen right there where diferent
but they way they sing its so similar for me

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FMA is technicaly a story about AI right?

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was thinking what good stories we have about AI or "artificial humans" or uploaded intelligence that start to act different form normal humans and whole "drama" between them

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cuz Ghost in shell that inspired matrix its there but barely touched upon very very tangential and only at end

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SAO is again basically non existent the whole humans vs AI dilemma even if they could make it plot wise important, but they brushed of with not even a 5 min focus lol

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then there is that waifu AI regressing in time into her defaul idol robot job that should help humans avoid skynet apocalypse. but again flunked big time with plot... no actual dilema AI vs humans

tidal shore
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SAO is still big in Japan tho

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I think

limber seal
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the point is good stories that focus arround humans vs AI or vs uploaded/changed humans that are not humans-> with good dileams dicussion who who is who etc

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cuz it feels unironcaly FMA is the best case we have

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and not "what still popular stories we have that mentions "AI" ...thats the least important part of my question E_pepelol

tidal shore
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FMA you mean homunculi being not "not" people?

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I don't know if they're a good stand-in for the AI though

limber seal
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yes honunculi are technicaly "artificial human"

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and they wai of thinking makes them kinda "human but not human same time"

tidal shore
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they're also magically extracted from one being afaik
and they represented different emotions, right?

tidal shore
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they have memory, and are capable of critical thinking

limber seal
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eh....
.. im gonna add parasite in this also.. at this point

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like good stories of "humans vs "other" intelligences artificial(mainly) but also external(aliens/demons etc) or mutated other humans and the fight of self survival for each"

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but problem with adding "demons and aliens and parasites" that is cuz it hugely enlarges the pool the groups and ppl will start adding any "Demon/Yokay" shonen story lol like yu yu hakusho bleach demon slayer etc

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all isekais etc

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When im interest more in the philosphy aplied by each for their survivial beside dumba stuf "might make sright, if we beat you the u die" biiiiitch!

ionic schooner
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This scene was so cool it really showed how nice the full metal alchemist world is

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Good thing nothing bad happened after between these two characters

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Or one character 💔

versed snow
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deft needle
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man, maybe i should stop being lazy and pick up 86's LN

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i hope there's a good translation B_ZhongHmm

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because lord knows we will not get another season

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getting part 2 was a mircale of its own

limber seal
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i still dint continue the 86 anime after that interuption
did the anime got a prope rending?
or the manga keep sgoing? after anine still?

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also wth i got a ghost ping while tpying the above.... little window on right bottom corner said somthing but nothing here

craggy mango
outer scaffold
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I found out that Orihime was gonna be introduced as part Dragon, the only thing that could've directly connected Bleach and Burn The Witch, but Kubo's ex-editor prevents it by saying that a main heroine shouldn't be scary at all

limber seal
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ehhhh i wil take that with a ~~grain ~~truckload of salt

frank musk
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frank musk
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So it looks unlikely

limber seal
tidal shore
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limber seal
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damn... petal of reincarantion doing a mass attack only on ep 3... yah.. i can forsee that telgraphed blood bath from miles away lol

woeful plinth
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bro got obliterate by her

next crescent
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Gotta love the parallel to frieren's shot in front of the moon

outer scaffold
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Moving on, we need to list manga that do NOT deserve a second season (other than Usagi Drop), if there's alist for those who deserves it, there must be the opposite of it

outer scaffold
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I feel like this has been chosen too many times, NEXT!

limber seal
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i dont even know wth is that

outer scaffold
limber seal
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huh? i dint remmeber it having that type of style/art
is that an illustration made by someone else maybe?

versed snow
ionic schooner
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Cuz the first season is like a thousand episodes long!!!

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The 2nd one would be like 2000!!!

versed snow
outer scaffold
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This one also, NEXT!

outer scaffold
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Seraph of the End

versed snow
outer scaffold
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Isn't the anime also bad/controversial from the start?

versed snow
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And long

outer scaffold
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I think I need to put a condition: the manga's first season must attract a lot of people because they like it, not because it attract controversial things

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Like SOTE

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Maybe Noragami? I remembered reading it a few years back after the anime and couldn't track what was going on

outer scaffold
versed snow
outer scaffold
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Let me ask you Sleepy, do you watch SOTE and knows the characters?

outer scaffold
versed snow
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Its not ended yet?

outer scaffold
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Yes, it still is.

versed snow
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How about twin star exorcist?

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Does tat count

outer scaffold
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Twin Star Exorcist is on the same category as TPN

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Good manga, bad anime execution

versed snow
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tidal shore
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Chronicles of the Lazy Sovereign is pretty good

outer scaffold
tidal shore
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i just wanted to mention it

scenic crescent
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Least dedicated bleach fan

tidal shore
outer scaffold
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You never know how people interpret such message these days

frank musk
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more like underestimate ppl's reading comprehension

tidal shore
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and honestly speaking, as someone on the spectrum, I find that most neurotypicals are straight up assholes, lacking compassion and empathy

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yeah I just vented mb

frank musk
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oh no no i mean with like ppl in general, especially on the internet, i didnt mean that towards anaxa

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i shouldve worded that better