・anime

[onyx charm]

its just its limited

[tidal shore]

ya but they lack nuance

[onyx charm]

yep true

[tidal shore]

adhacently related, I'm a victim of black and white thinking

my parents would give these slogans like X is bad Y is good, do X if you want X, etc

while ignoring all the nuance

and then I'd trip up like crazy stuck in my own confusion

[onyx charm]

ye thats what i dislike. i dont rlly like to fall trap into it

[scenic crescent]

Same😭

[onyx charm]

i dont believe in black and white thinking for this reasons

so with my parents i will try to be combative abt their XY decision until i got the logical reasoning of it of how it makes sense in the situation

it applies to everyone btw

[scenic crescent]

I wish i could be combative

[onyx charm]

but ye

[tidal shore]

let's go

[scenic crescent]

[tidal shore]

do they ever get annoyed by this btw?

[onyx charm]

we fought everyday during my teen ye

but they learned that they cannot convince me with gaslighting apparently

they have to reason with me to convince me. its possible. u just gotta give me a reason

then i will agree with it. its just need to makes sense and logical

[tidal shore]

vwino be like
📝 convince me

[onyx charm]

[scenic crescent]

Lucky

You didnt get hit with the

"Because i fucking said so"??

[onyx charm]

i did bro

[tidal shore]

Asian parents built different

[onyx charm]

but im very combative u see

im asian too

stubborn kind

[scenic crescent]

And "you dont respect your elders"

[onyx charm]

u think igaf with that

i got that

but i need a reason bro

[tidal shore]

mine I only started learning they knew nuance once I asked, they just forgot to mention it to me when I was little

[onyx charm]

i just need a reason

just give me a reason

then no fighting

[scenic crescent]

Ill ask you to bargain prices for me next time

[onyx charm]

we fought everyday for 3 yrs
i think we are now good

[scenic crescent]

Get me a ps5 for 20 dollars

[onyx charm]

i can manipulate stuff if i want

[tidal shore]

remind me to lowball you if I ever comm you

[onyx charm]

[scenic crescent]

Real

I dont have the energy to fire back anymore lmao

Got kicked out of my house 3-4 times already

[tidal shore]

that's unfortunate

the whole "respect your elders" stinks of multigenerational family structure too

we also have a saying in Poland "the fishes and the kids don't speak"

[onyx charm]

ye i find this true

[tidal shore]

used to shut us up

but yk

[scenic crescent]

Backwards tradition

[tidal shore]

kids are smarter than people think

[onyx charm]

it doesnt work that way most of the time. thats how ic it

[scenic crescent]

"Woman should be seem and not heard" ahh

[tidal shore]

they are just more emotional and as such less rational, but still capable of rational thought

that's also why I think "teenage rebellious period" is not a phenomena, but a failure as a parent

[onyx charm]

i think its important to respect everyone equally, regardless of age, race, gender or sexuality

[onyx charm]

i think of it that way too

my parents did not bring their experience with me to my younger silbings tho

so thats good

im the first in the family, so parenting is the first time for them too

why are we talking abt parenting in anime channel ahh

[scenic crescent]

True

[onyx charm]

💀

[dusty fable]

nah, it is. There are multiple reasons for that. Ofc, parents can make it way worse than it should be

[scenic crescent]

This is why so many animes have deliquents as their protag lmao

Let me count

Yusuke

Ichigo

Jotaro

The entire jojo series

[onyx charm]

i still dislike the notion of anime being abt a bunch of highschoolers tho

somehow

make them adults

idk

[scenic crescent]

Hanamichi

[onyx charm]

[scenic crescent]

Tbf they were published in shounen and shoujo magazines

For highschoolers

[onyx charm]

u can make good shounen/shoujo stories with adults characters

sakamoto days??

[scenic crescent]

True

[onyx charm]

akudama drive??

exactly

[scenic crescent]

But shin exists to fill the teenage role

[onyx charm]

why the age needs to be highschooler

[scenic crescent]

despite him being 20 lmao

[onyx charm]

i think teens is a demographic

but adults exist

[tidal shore]

calling it a rebellious period is inflammatory though, naturally this mainly describes a need for greater autonomy and self-expression

[scenic crescent]

The bulk of the shounen audience are teens

[onyx charm]

so many young adults read shounen/shoujo

[scenic crescent]

Also Kaiju no 8 was so dissapointing

[onyx charm]

ye by name

[scenic crescent]

It went with the "look we got adult mc"

Then did nothing with that lmso

Lmao

[tidal shore]

were you deliquents?

[onyx charm]

frieren is an adult

maomao

[tidal shore]

maomao is shoujo

[onyx charm]

ye

exactly

[dusty fable]

if you think THAT inflammatory... well... 😆

[onyx charm]

she aint highschooler i think

maomao is grown right?

hangon

[scenic crescent]

Yes but Stark is there to provide the teenage role

[onyx charm]

shit

[onyx charm]

hes 18

[tidal shore]

she starts at 17

[scenic crescent]

A teen yes

[tidal shore]

I'm on LN11 now btw

[scenic crescent]

I think its 20

The threshold of "not a teen"

[onyx charm]

im refering legally adults

so 18+ characters for me

[tidal shore]

well, think about it, parents do use it as a way to escape responsibility, and "rebellious" has a mostly negative connotation

[scenic crescent]

Starkk is very much a teen stand in

[onyx charm]

hes 18

then u compare the majority of shoujo/shounen its like 14-17

[scenic crescent]

Ooh marriage toxin

[onyx charm]

marriage toxin hell ye

[scenic crescent]

Ichigo is 18 at the thousand year blood war

[tidal shore]

marriage toxin?

[scenic crescent]

Peak

[onyx charm]

good shounen

[dusty fable]

there are parents like that, but I can't say if there are many like that. Not many among those I know

[onyx charm]

adult characters

[scenic crescent]

Ong the kisaki romance flag just got activated

[tidal shore]

if it's not not romance Idc

[onyx charm]

it has romance

[scenic crescent]

I meant kinosaki

[tidal shore]

if it has 30 yo adults acting like teens Idc (kaiju no 8)

[scenic crescent]

Isnt that kinosaki

[onyx charm]

as in mc is trying to find a fiance

to continue his bloodline

[scenic crescent]

To stop his sister from going to a loveless marriage yeah

Because shes lesbian

[tidal shore]

huh is this like medieval royalty moment

[onyx charm]

no

[scenic crescent]

Modern assassin manga

[onyx charm]

its modern setting

[tidal shore]

crazy

[onyx charm]

its just hes from a lineage

like mafia thing

[tidal shore]

crazyyyy

[onyx charm]

but u change mafia to assassins lineage

[tidal shore]

that is so crazy

[onyx charm]

there are multiple assassin lineage

just try it out

peak

[scenic crescent]

Best ship

[onyx charm]

i found it trhough the crossdressing tag on mangadex

[scenic crescent]

Nah same 😭

[tidal shore]

poor guy

[onyx charm]

[tidal shore]

https://tenor.com/view/ayo-looking-everywhere-emoji-ayo-looking-emoji-looking-everywhere-gif-26682115

[dusty fable]

personally, I think the school and friend circle decides the most how the teen phase unfolds. Like you don't really need to break the mold, if you have a good friend circle and school is going well. So, imo, parents just need to more or less check on friendships you have and moderate them, if they can be detrimental (ideally at early age, when parents really have a say in that). Ofc, that's in ideal world

[onyx charm]

look there are many peaks through this tag

like my senpai is an otokonoko

actual peak

exploring gender expression and romance drama

and sexuality

[scenic crescent]

KINOSAKI ENDGAME RAHSGHSG

[tidal shore]

I just want the protags to hanky panky

[onyx charm]

what is hanky panky

[tidal shore]

err

[scenic crescent]

I have
So much unpleasant thing to say about this manga

[onyx charm]

why

its so good

it has an anime btw

i remember finish reading it. then a few months later anime annoucement

oh ye that crossdressing bar with the girls manga/anime is also good

and cute

[scenic crescent]

Please make kinosski end up with gero

[tidal shore]

interesting

[onyx charm]

mark spoiler sommehow

[tidal shore]

if it's 2 guys then it's just hangib oyu

out

hangig

hanging

[scenic crescent]

Kinosaki is a weird case

Because manga spoilers

[onyx charm]

||with how the manga is going,, at this point the brother will turn gay, just like his sister||

ultimate edging

thats the manga in the nutshell\

[tidal shore]

||gay sister||

[scenic crescent]

This would make it narratively fullfilling lmao

Thats what triggers the grandmother

No offsprings

[onyx charm]

[scenic crescent]

Ohh

I remember loving that

[onyx charm]

ye its super cute

one of the few romance manga that i read without angst

its all fluff

[scenic crescent]

I think chapter 100 is THE kinosaki flag

[onyx charm]

[scenic crescent]

I watched the anime lmao

Because i heard the vas voice

[onyx charm]

i never heard the girls voice

[scenic crescent]

And was like

[onyx charm]

but i rlly like the yellow hair and purple girl pair

[scenic crescent]

"Oh gotta check that out"

[onyx charm]

then 2nd is the tanned girl and the simp guy

[scenic crescent]

Cutest doujin pair ngl

[onyx charm]

its also fem dom

[scenic crescent]

Real

[tidal shore]

tanned girl lets go

[scenic crescent]

Honestly ive seen so mant copies of it

[onyx charm]

i like that pair the most purely cuz that

[scenic crescent]

Recently i saw

The same manga

Down to the character archetypes

[onyx charm]

that pair is so funny

[scenic crescent]

But with crossdressi guyz

[onyx charm]

they keep going in circle

[onyx charm]

eh......

hmmmmmm

does it have fem dom

exactly

i need that

[scenic crescent]

Uhhh

Idk

Might've been BL tho

[onyx charm]

what

[scenic crescent]

I only read like 3 chapters

[onyx charm]

for BL specifically

[scenic crescent]

5 monthd ago

[onyx charm]

i rlly dislike it when its a big guy and a small guy

too much feminisation and objectification of the relationship

i prefer it equal

apply for straight romance too

[dusty fable]

https://myanimelist.net/anime/59828 guys, what is this? First time I hear about this anime and the score is pretty good

[onyx charm]

usually with BL, this trope is very fast fashion

its shallow

lack of characterisation

[scenic crescent]

Also honest to god black hair girls my type

[scenic crescent]

Theres a reason why yaoi exists as a term

[onyx charm]

but when its with a big guy and a big guy, like equally tall, it tends to be better written

but nor guarantee

[scenic crescent]

Its like

[onyx charm]

ye but even tho its BL/shounen ai, its mostly like yaoi in that way too

its badly written

[scenic crescent]

True

[onyx charm]

its the most popular trope in BL, as well as the most likely trash

its like isekai nowadays

for marriage toxin right

[scenic crescent]

Whens the last good isekai again😭

[scenic crescent]

Kinosakis situation looks very complicated

[onyx charm]

even tho the relationship that is may or may not be gay, the small guy sitll has equal contribution as the big guy

so its actually well written

i like it this way more

[scenic crescent]

Because he has a scar on his chest???

Might be important later

[onyx charm]

idk

[scenic crescent]

I gasped when i saw kinosaki kabedoning gero with his legs lmao

[onyx charm]

havent read that part yet

but i am at abt the hamster girl chapter

but from the start to that arc, the crossdresser guy have contributions

just as much as the MC

[scenic crescent]

Ohh hamster girl

That arc went full shounen

[onyx charm]

so it tells u a lot abt their writing

like the crossdresser guy is not existing for objectification

[scenic crescent]

Half the manga is kinosaki dragging gero around and the other half is gero dragging kinosaki around

Lmao

[onyx charm]

ye exactly

thats my point

if more BL are like this, i would be glad

[onyx charm]

i like the purple hair more

[scenic crescent]

Alot of bl is literally just making the fmc a guy lmao

[onyx charm]

somewhat like that

but ye

[scenic crescent]

Because she draws?

[onyx charm]

shes

what i like abt women irl

if i have a gf like that man

i would die in peace

actuallty

[scenic crescent]

Real

Simply draw your ideal gf

Simple

[onyx charm]

[scenic crescent]

Then be schizo like the rent a gf author

[onyx charm]

nah thats too mcuh

[scenic crescent]

I forgot that man has a wife lmao

[onyx charm]

when will zzz have this type of woman i swear

[scenic crescent]

Artist dominant girl?

[onyx charm]

actual dominant girl

[scenic crescent]

Uhhh

[onyx charm]

dont be like caesar

[scenic crescent]

Jane?

[onyx charm]

jane?

hmmmmm

[scenic crescent]

Jane

[onyx charm]

appearance wise, not so much

too mommy

[scenic crescent]

Real

[onyx charm]

i like tomboy

short hair

[scenic crescent]

I am honestly just fine with art girls lmao

[onyx charm]

but given the game demographic

ig never

[scenic crescent]

I like gogh from fate because she draws

Where else is van gogh a gloomy anime girl

[hard scarab]

fate mentioned

[scenic crescent]

Real

[tidal shore]

what the heels

[onyx charm]

LMAO

[hard scarab]

my daughter

[scenic crescent]

I also like the borderlinr hololive vtuber osakabe lol

[hard scarab]

hololive also mentioned

[scenic crescent]

Thats what everyone says about gogh😭 😭 😭 😭

Her heels

[hard scarab]

The design seens more niji than holo

regardless, she wears glasses
great design

[scenic crescent]

Nah fgo is so wild because half of the servanr lists are actual pro artists

😭

Even jeanne d arc

And Huyan Zhuo

[hard scarab]

Everything about fgo is wild in general

[onyx charm]

if we talk abt artist character that i actually like, ig i have none that i like cuz they draw

[hard scarab]

Not just fgo, everything about fate is

[scenic crescent]

Every single summer event involves them writing doujins before deadlines

[onyx charm]

closest i can relate to in terms of drawing would be akito from pjsk

[scenic crescent]

Real

[onyx charm]

but bro sing not draw

then his sister draw

[scenic crescent]

Yeah like mushroomd are actually aliens

[onyx charm]

ahhhhhh

[scenic crescent]

The greek gods are alien mech

[onyx charm]

https://tenor.com/view/project-sekai-akito-akito-shinonome-pjsk-akito-pjsk-gif-11572956652270162816

[scenic crescent]

Hmm

Artistic expression maybe?

[onyx charm]

ye

his passion, his expression, his work ethics

its relatable

[scenic crescent]

I like characters with

[hard scarab]

I miss him

[scenic crescent]

Like a self expression element to them

[scenic crescent]

Goetia is pupeteering his corpse now😭

[hard scarab]

In fate, Planets are fucking strong

[scenic crescent]

Nope

[onyx charm]

ena is very low self-esteem. akito has low self-esteem too. but akito apporach it different from ena

[scenic crescent]

Only a select few are strong

[hard scarab]

mostly earth

[scenic crescent]

No diffed by ishtarin

[onyx charm]

ena solution is temporary. thats why i dont like her for her drawings

[scenic crescent]

You seem to like characters with low self esteem lmai

[hard scarab]

true...

[onyx charm]

akito solution is rather a long term thing.

[onyx charm]

shush

i like ena cuz her interaction with mizuki

[hard scarab]

is it alright to say that this is one of my favorite fate servants

[scenic crescent]

So real

[onyx charm]

shes kind

[scenic crescent]

This is mine

[hard scarab]

I read fate requiem

[hard scarab]

Castoria

speaking of castoria

I like senji muramasa

[onyx charm]

akito is passion oriented. his mindset is more of "im not good enough hence i need to work my ass off to be good enough". ena is "im not good enough so i take selfies and talk to ppl to make myself feel good"

[scenic crescent]

Found the pixels

[scenic crescent]

Dont do ma girl like that😭

[onyx charm]

its true tho

[hard scarab]

well, he isn't exactly muramasa either

[scenic crescent]

mid fanservice

I like castoria because of her story

[onyx charm]

i rlly dont like ena cuz she keeps going that. like girl. if u sucks at drawing. just draw more. what ur dad says is true. so stop lashing out to him

[scenic crescent]

Greatest fate story imo

Fuck it

[onyx charm]

[scenic crescent]

Greatest gacha game story

[scenic crescent]

I feel like im getting backhanded

[hard scarab]

😔But I liked him, I like shirou but that's not the reason why I like muramasa

Actually

[scenic crescent]

God i love castoria

[hard scarab]

Can we get much more cu content

[onyx charm]

pls dont take it to heart. i wouldnt careless if u like the thoughts or not. but thats my genuine reaction when i read ena's story

i dont get why artist find her relatable cuz all she did is sit and cry abt her own failure

its mildly infuriating

[scenic crescent]

No im joking its fine

[onyx charm]

thats good

[scenic crescent]

You ever drew

And drew

And fix and fix and fix

But you hit this wall

[hard scarab]

I can understand why, but it's more exaggerated

[onyx charm]

if u hit the wall, smash the wall

[scenic crescent]

Her bond lines are the best imo

One might expect a Child of Prophecy on her pilgrimage to do everything she could to help others, even if it's scary. The truth, though, is that the Child of Prophecy set out on her journey to do her best, because she knew people would be disappointed if she was frightened.

She always conceals her deeply negative feelings. "Everyone is scary, society is nauseating. I don't have any motivation to save the world, but I also don't want to go against the people around me, so I'll try to be their savior."

Despite that, her deeds appear noble in others' eyes, seeming a worthy equivalent to King Arthur's way of life. In truth, though, Altria Caster is obsequious, reactionary, and pessimistic. So she constantly criticizes herself, thinking, "I pulled it off this time, but I'm sure they'll sack me the next time around."

If Faerie Britain was a fairy tale envisioned by Morgan, the Pilgrimage would be a tale following Altria's growth and evolution. Her role may be similar to the character Dorothy from "The Wizard of Oz," but in actuality she is a combination of the Scarecrow who cannot walk properly (who does not have his own footing and lacks wisdom), the Tin Woodsman who lacks a heart, and the Cowardly Lion, combined into one. So how did this Altria manage to keep being the Child of Prophecy until the very end, and what was she fighting for? The answer to that question will spell the end of her tale.

[scenic crescent]

Alot more complicated than that

[onyx charm]

thats how i have been doing it for the past 6 yrs

and thats exactly why akito is relatable rather than his sister

[hard scarab]

Oh right, speaking of fate
fgo's on it's final arc right?

[scenic crescent]

No lmao

[hard scarab]

ordeal call?

[scenic crescent]

The lostbelt arc is

[hard scarab]

icic

[scenic crescent]

But fgo is bringing in so much money theyll do a third part

[onyx charm]

wait it is exaggerated???

[scenic crescent]

Crazy

[onyx charm]

i told yall i stay awake for 3 weeks straight for that reason

thats the reason

[scenic crescent]

Oh-

[onyx charm]

i mean i did get over it

[hard scarab]

ah I meant the final chapters for lostbelt

[scenic crescent]

Foreigner ordeal call maybe

Then the end

[scenic crescent]

Good

Also-

Hopy shit its late

[onyx charm]

oh shit

i supposed to sleep

fuck

u too

[scenic crescent]

I need to sleep i have a job

[onyx charm]

exactly

i have studying to do tmr

[scenic crescent]

If you see me online: you didnt

[hard scarab]

It's funny how jesus being born in fgo was actually how Solomon and david become really proficient in magecraft just cause they're related, buddha is also a thing in fate but he hasn't been in fgo(only fate extra)

[scenic crescent]

Isnt jesus a girl

[hard scarab]

how does that even work, reverse inheritance?

[hard scarab]

no

[scenic crescent]

Yumina is jesus no

Yumina is either connected to or is jesus

[hard scarab]

She's connected

But jesus is confirmed to be a dude

[scenic crescent]

We dont know that

[hard scarab]

Backstory and such

[scenic crescent]

Because fucking nasu gave us 3 sentence of yumina lore in 20 yesrs

Years

[scenic crescent]

Ehhhh

[hard scarab]

Martha

[scenic crescent]

Also jesus wont appear like ever so

[scenic crescent]

Yes but a character being one gender in another characters story before being genderswapped is commonplace

[hard scarab]

Regardless, Jesus so op his blood allows people to do wishes

[hard scarab]

I guess, There's 2 arthurs

[scenic crescent]

*prelati

Musashi

[hard scarab]

And merlins, as well as musashi

[scenic crescent]

Half of the entire gudaguda cast lmao

Oda Nobunaga😭

[hard scarab]

Speaking of arthur/artoria, I think I want a dad like Arthur (prototype)

[topaz linden]

Who needs borderline hololive when you have full on hololive Artoria
https://youtu.be/yN7POteJXBU

[scenic crescent]

Also da vinci(special case)

[scenic crescent]

RAHHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-14085814

[hard scarab]

apparently he was so perfect that mordred (prototype) got too obsessed with him(not in an approval type of way) that he played a villain just so arthur would look cool

[scenic crescent]

Real

[hard scarab]

The difference between arthur and artorias relationship with their mordred is one suffers from neglection while the other is an extreme fanboy

[outer scaffold]

I don't like how Koichi's mom wants everything to be honest, there is something called a white lie, i'm sure almost every religion has this thing

[tidal shore]

white lie is still a lie

lie by omission is a thing too

wanting everything to be honest though is totally a character flaw

[rancid ledge]

wanna watch fate?

play the light novel.

[hard scarab]

no

!!!

[rancid ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-elf-cute-kawaii-gif-1391919008270779198

[hard scarab]

In all honesty, any methods for consumption is fine

[ionic schooner]

THAT

HAS SEX

[rancid ledge]

you cant say that word

[rancid ledge]

ok and, some of yall prolly watch the h word all the time

[ionic schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/fate-stay-night-fate-stay-night-heaven's-feel-heaven's-feel-sakura-sakura-matou-gif-329917896338665230

[hard scarab]

So do many vn that became anime

[ionic schooner]

zamn

[next crescent]

Don't many vns also give the option to ignore/skip those scenes

[hard scarab]

Some you can skip or fast forward scenes and dialogues in general

I do that

[next crescent]

Ye

[hard scarab]

What makes it bad for fate is lore bits are added to those scenes to my dismay

[tidal shore]

@ionic schooner say raunchy scenes instead

[next crescent]

I don't do vns but I remember some friends asking me to play one and I said no because I didn't wanna read teens doing the hanky panky and they told me there was an option in most to skip that

[tidal shore]

yes

[next crescent]

Dude that's diabolical

[hard scarab]

I'm glad some vns don't put lore in those scenes😭

[tidal shore]

there's usually an option to disable r-18 scenes, there are also all ages versions

unless it's gory like Dies Irae

[rancid ledge]

mushoku tensei has raunchy ass scenes but nobody is complaining about that

[tidal shore]

and unless it's a nukige

[hard scarab]

Funnily enough, Fate wasn't originally going to be an 18+ vn, but nasu had to because it was a marketing strat

[tidal shore]

no way lmao

[hard scarab]

Same reason why the mc became shirou and the arthur became a woman

[next crescent]

I complain about it any time I talk about mushoku tensei lmao

[hard scarab]

From the original prototype, Executive decision had them change since apparently
it would look like targeted to girls

[next crescent]

Like I did earlier/yesterday

[tidal shore]

Grisaia no Kajitsu did this too afaik, peak

I gotta say tho
VNs are as low-brow than anime

[hard scarab]

that's right chat, Arthur became a woman and Shirou became a thing because Type-moon didn't WANT people to mistake it for otome

[tidal shore]

whuh

[next crescent]

What are you on about? Lol

[hard scarab]

Fate prototype is what's left of the original writing

[next crescent]

Oh

[hard scarab]

Type-moon's marketing strategy

we could've had a Gilgamesh route

[next crescent]

Is that also a fate thing

[ionic schooner]

IT HAS RAUBCHY SCENES!

[rancid ledge]

i think gantz and berserk has raunchy scenes too

[tidal shore]

@hard scarab is what ur saying conjecture or did type moon actually say this?

[hard scarab]

Somehow, I randomly remembered elfen lied

[hard scarab]

Interviews yes

[tidal shore]

that's crazy

[rancid ledge]

oh yeah that show... was something.

i did not like yuka at all

[hard scarab]

psychological horror I suppose, everything about the show put me in edge

[rancid ledge]

and there was corpse party

[hard scarab]

I remember playing that game

[rancid ledge]

oh hell yeah its peak, but scary as hell

[frank musk]

Same author of hyouka, basically a more serious version of that series, personally i like it

[rancid ledge]

damn they look good

[frank musk]

https://tenor.com/view/shoushimin-series-shoshimin-how-to-become-ordinary-qazira-yuki-osanai-shoushimin-gif-16087136566872103470

I will admit i prefer hyouka when comparing the two

[frank musk]

I also hear this might be a full adaption of the novels

I should probably rewatch hyouka to give a more accurate evaluation its been 10 years since ive rewatched it

[shadow knot]

hyouka is great every time I revisit it

[tidal shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584480669586161674/1379331158466101288/Sasaki-san_wa_Chotto_dake_Sugoi_-_Ch.11_-_Conjuration_-_4.png?ex=683fd9be&is=683e883e&hm=ba2e7fff5ebe70a293ba9448322cf02c52047476998e78e101f1cf2ee80e9303&

KnH volume 11 spoilers

I'm swooning

[brazen bane]

Thanks for the recommendations, I finished it a few days ago and it was an amazing watch!!!

Watching wotakoi now

[scenic crescent]

REF DO SOMETHINGGG

[frank musk]

Sergio ramos would be proud

[dusty fable]

thanks, it did give off Hyouka vibes to me which is why I noticed it

[dusty fable]

my man, are you like this reading those lines?

[tidal shore]

yes

[rancid ledge]

its a fucking soccer game, what the hell

[scenic crescent]

Not a single ball in sight

[rancid ledge]

ITS NOT EVEN THAT DEEP

[scenic crescent]

The fact that blue lock leans on the realistic football manga scale too lmao

[rancid ledge]

wtf

[tidal shore]

overload ball side ON
team press ON

[dusty fable]

I recommend Odd Taxi. Wotakoi is good, if slightly generic. Made In Abyss is not a relaxing watch at all, and it's pretty gorey, a good show though. Can't say anything about Beasters

[scenic crescent]

real

[scenic crescent]

ref hes threatening the lives of other players 😭

[dusty fable]

it's japanese soccer. They don't show it on TVs, because compared to Takeshi's Castle show, ppl don't survive through this

[rancid ledge]

yeah imma go watch inazuma eleven bye

[scenic crescent]

blue lock is real life football compared to inazuma eleven lmao

😭

[rancid ledge]

shut up leave me alone

[scenic crescent]

what

sorry

[tidal shore]

Okita's right XD

[rancid ledge]

yeah and i see a ygo characters killing each other with cards

[tidal shore]

it's heightened reality

no one actually has superpowers there though

it's more like Slam Dunk vs Kuroko no Basket

[scenic crescent]

Kuroko no basket is crazy

You got people with actual unironic-super powers

[tidal shore]

yep

[scenic crescent]

In terms of realistic football mamga

From most to least

The popular ones anyways

Ao Ashi- Blue lock- Captain tsubasa-Inazuma Eleven

Ao Ashi is very very realistic

Down to the tactics and plays

Blue lock stays relatively realistic, with the series' super goals being references to real life, other than a few exceptions like Julian Loki and Nagi(those mf hacking)

Captain Tsubasa is

https://tenor.com/view/captain-tsubasa-tsubasa-spain-captain-tsubasa-spain-tsubasa-oozora-gif-26923782

And inazuma eleven speaks for itself lmao

[tidal shore]

LMAO

[scenic crescent]

I was reading it and was like

"My parents grew up with THIS?"

Its so unintentionally funny lmao

[tidal shore]

I might watch it just for this

[ionic schooner]

aurafarming😭

[tidal shore]

o kurwa

there's whole Inazuma Eleven in Polish on YouTube

how did it survive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip4ANqmo_5A @scenic crescent

[outer scaffold]

Finally trash a gf is finally reaching its climax

[frank musk]

i skimmed the chapter

the world must be ending

but nah, im betting reiji pulls another "undo progress" button next chapter, like he did with the movie arc

[brazen bane]

Just finished wotakoi and where is my season 2 😭 I need it nowwwwww@tidal shore

[tidal shore]

u can always Manga I think

also YOU'RE FAST

[brazen bane]

I loved hearing momose's voiceeeee

[onyx charm]

oh its good

finished the manga

but i forgot the ending

LMAO

||i think its a multi ending lol||

[brazen bane]

Good I don't want any spoilers

[onyx charm]

ofc

[brazen bane]

How many chapters?

[onyx charm]

100+

its been 3 years. i hardly remember lol

[brazen bane]

Lmao

Maybe I will read

[outer scaffold]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DJP5wPdRq4L/?igsh=MWRidWw0bDYxbXM2Zw==

goofyahhtees (@goofyahhtees)

This MIGHT be cannon😭
-asuka langley tee available in my bio🤝

▶ Play video

InstaFix

[outer scaffold]

Asuka!

Oh and that "normal" US rapper...

[scenic crescent]

agenda will be maintained

yo-

are you kidding me 😭

is this a farewell chapter

doomed yaoi

[scenic crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962544072227180564/1379760152663560242/image.png?ex=68416947&is=684017c7&hm=aa9f0fd8766e7eb51074de6fc29a1de16be1b2d62ff58e720e50ae85ac921954&

[tidal shore]

Monogatari Series should've been in top 3

[dusty fable]

no, Solo Leveling

[tidal shore]

heretic

[dusty fable]

if you can't beat them, join them

[tidal shore]

john them

[dusty fable]

sung john woo them

[tidal shore]

I finally got TW3K working on my PC again

I will conquer China after finishing Apothecary Diaries LN

[dusty fable]

Caveman conquers China. A joke as old as Denisovans there in China

[tidal shore]

I don't see the joke

[dusty fable]

I was cheering on you. If Denisovans could conquer China, so can you

[outer scaffold]

Yoshitsugu Matsuoka got that dawg in him bro

[tidal shore]

bruh

[dusty fable]

Damn, Windbreaker started rather bad and now gets really good. Didn't expect to have this much fun watching hoodlums' story

[scenic crescent]

SHIRTLESS CHIGIRI RAHHH

[brazen bane]

I thought it was a girl at first

[tidal shore]

he's the blue lock's femboy

colloquial term

[scenic crescent]

acting like hiori doesnt exist

[tidal shore]

hiori who

Idr him so he's made no impression on me

[scenic crescent]

he does shit in the manga so

[tidal shore]

lmao chain collar

oh I know

what if Blue Lock but dog personalities

[scenic crescent]

all cover characters have collars lol

except for julian loki(mbappe) and ahnri

haremsagi

[tidal shore]

is this just

fujoshi bait?

[scenic crescent]

what do you think?

[tidal shore]

fujoshi bait

[scenic crescent]

75% of blue lock readers are girls

that

should tell you enough

[tidal shore]

crazyyy

maybe that's why I was popular with girls as a teen, I'd play football

[dusty fable]

phew, at least you weren't wearing a collar with a dongle, otherwise you would have been already either married or in slavery or both

[tidal shore]

true true

the slavery could've totally happened since I did have a stalker

lao

[ionic schooner]

not a single soccerball in sight

[dusty fable]

but balls action is definitely going on somewhere

[scenic crescent]

Shounen battle and boys love disguised as football manga😭

[barren quiver]

can a japanese person please confirm if the subtitles' doing something funny or is my brain playing tricks on me?

[scenic crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962544072227180564/1379765332574605322/image.png?ex=68416e1a&is=68401c9a&hm=24881876b96008eb4c7657d3b4954069fc36c3c790cc1bbedc4e8648a7a818e9&

[tidal shore]

it is normie true

where's Monogatari Series

[scenic crescent]

Wtf is one piece doing there

[dusty fable]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

Perfect Blue is not normie top10 though

[scenic crescent]

Shit piece, attack on plot contrivances, death note and hiatus x hiatus being up there

😭 😭 😭

[scenic crescent]

You know whats worse

Mf put solo levelling at 46th

[dusty fable]

I agree. The problem is, these shows are still mostly "the best" in their own genres. Like they have huge demerits, I freaking hate AoT, but I accept it being one of the greatest shows of all time, even though I hate it. Death Note... well Light vs El is still probably the best confrontation in anime ever, even though everything else is crap of bull. HxH turns into shit for me, One piece I watched only half an arc in the middle, was really impressed, but won't watch it.

With all that, still top10 belongs to them, hard to deny

[scenic crescent]

I cannot put aot as the best of all time with that shit ending

Also tenma vs johan was 10 times better than l vs light was

[tidal shore]

ngl 9 years of watching anime and his judgement is so low brow

[dusty fable]

I dropped it in 2nd season 2 times, and dropped it once 1st season. I just can't watch, the moments of stupidity overwhelm me. But brilliance is there too

[scenic crescent]

Sorry but that fuckass ending

[dusty fable]

And if you don't care about how the plot is a freaking spaghetti that coils and doesnt turn into a thread, then you are in for a great show

[scenic crescent]

Except for that ending

Mf put monster at 20th

[dusty fable]

Idk about the ending, never watched past the 2nd season

well, I also didn't manage to spoil myself. So maybe there will be a 4th try along the road, though I doubt

[scenic crescent]

You know code geass ending

Yeah

Its that but trash

Eren goes back in time to...kill his mom

[dusty fable]

hmmm

[scenic crescent]

Then the lelouch plan doesnt work because eldia gets carpet bombed by the outside world after like 50 years anyways💀 💀 💀

[dusty fable]

you are this close to being ignored though

[scenic crescent]

No more spoilers but shit sucked so fucking hard

Like what?

Can i also talk about the one piece glaze

[dusty fable]

well, it's kinda expected. Author can't make ends meet throughout the anime. Picks up and drops threads, ofc it's gonna flop (AoT)

[dusty fable]

well, put it under spoilers though and let ppl decide if they want to read it

[scenic crescent]

Yet people still talk about it like the greatest anime ever

[dusty fable]

Personally, I am not watching 1000 episodes

[scenic crescent]

Im not even gonna bother to spoiler this

Gear 5th

Fucking

Sucked

I think everyone knows gear 5 by now

[dusty fable]

I can understand why. From the glimpses I had. It REALLY is well done on many different levels

[scenic crescent]

Oh my god gear 5th sucked so hard

[scenic crescent]

Nope

The themes it touches and the worldbuilding?

[topaz linden]

You need a Japanese native speaker to tell you that one line of subtitles isn't enough for two different people talking? 😂

[scenic crescent]

As wide as the ocean

But as deep as a puddle

Pre time skip was very good

Thats the only thing id give it

God

I hate the one piece glaze

Shit female characters

That too

[topaz linden]

Only thing nice I know about them is Ado does the singing for one of em (Uta)

[scenic crescent]

Movie sucked

My queen ado carried

🔥

[topaz linden]

Seeing them in 36 days

Hyped

[scenic crescent]

ADO?

I went to her tour last year

I wanna go again aaa

[topaz linden]

Yee, shes doin another NA tour

[dusty fable]

ok guys, it's Osaka hijack time

[tidal shore]

lmao Limp Bizkit

[topaz linden]

https://youtu.be/DAtx-kT4dJ0

[dusty fable]

Spoilers for Azumanga. Nice joke

[tidal shore]

missed opportunity to make a rectangle grid of copypaste rolling Osakas at the end

I think it would go hard

[dusty fable]

true true. 4koma spirit

[tidal shore]

and square the amount every repetition

https://tenor.com/view/pop-popteamepic-epic-team-poputepipikku-gif-23016007

[dusty fable]

I am sorry guys, it's an old meme, but if you haven't seen it, you need to watch the video entirely without skipping for a full experience https://youtu.be/GT5JQ-ZR1ho

the real thing is that this video is a real torture device, because you know the waffle will fall, but you don't know when. And it becomes almost unbearable. Some people report visions of past and future where waffle doesn't fall at all, the music stretches and stretches, but it never happens. Others say the waffle falls multiple times. It's almost agonizing

And the joke is, sometimes they put a 10 hour video of the waffle instead

[topaz linden]

Except for people with addons like me

[dusty fable]

well, gratz, you just ruined once in a lifetime experience

tbh, it's not a full experience, but for full experience you have to watch both JoJo's anime and multiple versions of this meme along together

[tidal shore]

sponsor block moment 🔥

[topaz linden]

Sounds like a lotta work

[tidal shore]

https://x.com/tentenchan2525/status/1930267438463189143?t=YaxqubDCzHB7QJZMFtPzAw&s=19

tenten (@tentenchan2525)

X · Jun 4, 2025, 2:16 PM

[topaz linden]

[dusty fable]

hey, no pain no gain

https://youtu.be/SyicicIZIf8?si=lXVjvmPSfzZ3rYt_ also you get to listen to great music

[dusty fable]

Sadge. I was looking for the best Hiroyuki Sawano song. There is no full version of it on YT anymore. Well, you can listen to a worse fidelty live recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtIpTpHQZvE it is still good.

[outer scaffold]

I think Monster is an example where the empathy choice is wrong over the logic choice

[rancid ledge]

ayo jojo in the big 25 lets go

[dusty fable]

I never get a clue about anime VAs, but I am sure she is voiced by Shinomiya san from Love is War. They are literally the same person

Though, now that I listen more, her voice is a bit deeper... hmmm

[outer scaffold]

What anime?

[ionic schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-chika-fujiwara-kaguya-sama-wa-kokurasetai-love-is-war-anime-gif-14648226

this gives me nostalga😭

[outer scaffold]

Her seiyuu has voiced Makima.

[dusty fable]

Witch Watch

[tidal shore]

KnH volume 12 is peak

I waited 1600 pages for this!

😭

unrelated, they forgot Lahan's Brother 😭

[tidal shore]

unrelated 2: I misread "children died prematurely" as "children died permanently" and it threw me for a loop

can you die not permanently

death as a social construct

[topaz linden]

https://tenor.com/view/montypython-igotbetter-gif-5528939

Also... next month 👀👀👀
https://fixupx.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1930465006195204535

Manga Mogura RE (Anime & Manga News) (@MangaMoguraRE)

Kyoto Animation's new TV Anime "CITY - The Animation" NEW TRAILER REVEAL!
︀︀
︀︀Based on the Absurd Gag Comedy by "Nichijo" creator Keiichi Arawi
︀︀
︀︀Air Date: July 6, 2025
︀︀Animation Studio: Kyoto Animation
︀︀
︀︀Director: Taichi Ishidate (Violet Evergarden)

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▶ Play video

FixupX · Jun 5, 2025, 3:21 AM

[tidal shore]

wow this style is so nichijou coded

[topaz linden]

It looks like Nichijou with the saturation turned way up

[tidal shore]

true

[opal agate]

https://youtu.be/iu_0kOfMGD0?si=AydQ55UpDg3chVQc

peak opening

[ionic schooner]

freaky hands

[opal agate]

They just like me fr 🙏

[woeful plinth]

https://youtu.be/wYygXC2DFkE

oh hey

vietnam anime

looks promising

[outer scaffold]

Senukin sourced?

[tidal shore]

fuck
gotta wait for KnH volume 15 until September

WHAT A MOOD

that's why I don't like reading on-going series

[dusty fable]

so, first Vietnamese anime is releasing in 2111?

[woeful plinth]

late 2025 lmao

[scenic crescent]

woah wait interesting

i hope its on youtube

so no goverment meddling

[dusty fable]

last frame should be: you do know I was brought up in a brothel

[tidal shore]

I will say

based on Lahan's Brother's reactions

I don't think other men see her as a woman 😭

(Volume 14 spoilers, you will see if you read )

I do encourage you to read

[outer scaffold]

I learned something new today in the world of entertainment media, The Bechdel Test!

But (I'm not being a misogynist), do you guys believe that a woman who complains about the media they enjoyed fails the test can also fail the test irl?

[topaz linden]

...not sure how the two are related?

unless the assumption is that women can only complain about men in media (what the Bechdel test is about)

which would be misogynist

[outer scaffold]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DKlIfomJxPH/?igsh=ZDlidmhucnZwdWF1

This.

[topaz linden]

...?

Not sure what the video is supposed to clarify about the question

[outer scaffold]

Just curious, can a woman irl also fail the same test?

[topaz linden]

Well, technically no, since it's specifically a test for conversations inside media (so dialogue in movies/books/etc.)

So a real life conversation wouldnt count technically

[outer scaffold]

Ok

Btw, I have something funny

https://youtu.be/iQXVU2YVFCc?feature=shared

[dusty fable]

Above conversation led me to this: Comic book writer Kelly Sue DeConnick proposed a "sexy lamp test": "If you can replace your female character with a sexy lamp and the story still basically works, maybe you need another draft."

[scenic crescent]

what

[outer scaffold]

Big shots for 6.X Genshin

[next crescent]

Isn't this #・anime and not #・genshin-spoilers lmao

But that's cool

Idk any of these people

[shadow knot]

anime vas moment

[tidal shore]

y'all playing genshin with jp voice over are crazy

[ionic schooner]

i do cuz english got 50% of the cast voiceless

❤️‍🔥

[tidal shore]

anyone here actually playing with Chinese vo

[next crescent]

I did for a very short while in the beginning

Y'know who's a different breed though? The ones who use the Korean dub

I haven't met a single person yet who says they use the Korean dub

And no I'm not bashing on the Korean dub, just feel like it's the one with the least usage/love

[outer scaffold]

Sugita Tomokazu: Gintoki.

[next crescent]

Who

[outer scaffold]

Gintama

[next crescent]

Oh I never watched that

[tidal shore]

that would be like using German/Polish dub for a Polish/German game 😭

[next crescent]

But it's a Chinese game

[outer scaffold]

Ok, he's also the seiyuu for Gyomei, I think you're more familiar with

[tidal shore]

ya all im saying is considering their collective history it would be crazy

[outer scaffold]

German... Japanese...?

[next crescent]

Nope

[outer scaffold]

ASUKA!

[next crescent]

Ohhh

[outer scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/asuka-langley-gif-26113883

[next crescent]

You will hate me

But I never watched evangelion

[tidal shore]

same

dropped ep1 cuz it was so ass

[outer scaffold]

Damn, what did you watch then?

[next crescent]

A lot of other stuff that, for the most part, everyone else would call mainstream trash

With very few lesser known/mainstream shows and movies

[tidal shore]

we are what we eat

[outer scaffold]

Do you see some familiar faces?

[tidal shore]

ayo Sugibro

[outer scaffold]

Also, fucking pre-reincarnation Rudeus lol

[tidal shore]

hold up

is that

nvm I got my hopes up for nothing

ohh there's a chara from your lie in april

[outer scaffold]

Damn, you guys's watched anime are... unique.

[tidal shore]

I recognise charas from:

• Demon Slayer, Tokyo Ghoul, Vanitas, NieR, F/GO (only through artwork though)
• almost everything from Sugita
• almost everything from Nakamura

[hard scarab]

fgo mentioned

[next crescent]

Who said I wasn't trash?

[tidal shore]

Your Lie in April is awesome btw

[hard scarab]

yeah, I didn't expect ken, kousei, sieg and tanjiro to have the same voice

[tidal shore]

you should watch it

[next crescent]

Oh yo he's vanitas

[hard scarab]

much less with vanitas too

[tidal shore]

go watch Your Lie in April

[hard scarab]

pretty much sums it up lol

[tidal shore]

and then watch Sangatsu no Lion because I got reminded of it cuz glasses-kun

[hard scarab]

yusuke feels so out of it

[next crescent]

Ohhhh gojo

[hard scarab]

😭

[tidal shore]

change for Nakamura, I only don't know Ikuto from him

[next crescent]

The problem with me is I can recognize the faces of characters from anime others have talked a lot about but the ones I've actually seen in comparison are miniscule

[hard scarab]

Gojo's va does have similar kind of vibes to his characters

[next crescent]

But I can imagine their voices from at least one character on those lineups so that works

[hard scarab]

Even those with a wide range?

[next crescent]

Who has wide range?

I've only heard their voices from one character for Nakamura and sugita

[tidal shore]

crazy

[next crescent]

And three from hanae

And the three from hanae all sound the same/really similar imo

[tidal shore]

we could opt for range within 1 performance then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v05AIPh-ooE

good example

my goat

[next crescent]

Oh this one

[frank musk]

Im still so happy we got sugibro for varka

It was what i wanted from the start

[shadow knot]

yeah this is my fav VA showcase

[tidal shore]

finished KnH vol 14

the slow burn romance dynamic has ||sort of reversed||

which is crazy

[outer scaffold]

DLsite now supports one of the most popular indonesia's payment methods, DANA

[trail garnet]

Voicing Varka is the goated move by Hoyo JP team tbh

[hard scarab]

yeah

[tidal shore]

do I play the Fate vn?

[dusty fable]

Yes. But personally I would suggest to start VNs either from Umineko Naku no Koro Ni or Swan Song (or 999 which is halfway towards VN)

[tidal shore]

I've read VNs before

honestly I only really like Grisaia

[dusty fable]

Fate still gonna be a tough read. It's an old school VN through and through. But it's much better than any other Fate story

[tidal shore]

I've tried Fate before and dropped it due to annoying character traits

[dusty fable]

Well, yeah, it's an old-school style

[tidal shore]

actually same reason I dropped some older anime too

like Inuyasha

or Magical Index

also top rated VN on vndb was total arse, I don't see what people see in it (it's mecha too) (it used to be muv luv)

why is Rance top that's literally so 😭

Aiyoku no Eustia never getting a full translation release Ig (I've been waiting half a decade now...)

[dusty fable]

VNs take really long to showcase their worth. Outside maybe Swan Song, you need 5-10 hours usually to get through introductions to the real meat(pun intended). Most VNs don't follow Hollywood tropes or try to grab your attention immediately, which is never happens to stories anymore

[tidal shore]

true

but like

if it doesn't grab my attention in the first hour then I'm done

[dusty fable]

Understandable

[tidal shore]

if it's not good from the get go then the rest won't be good either

if it's romance though I will eat it up regardless of quality

[dusty fable]

https://vndb.org/v57 you could try this one. It's my top10 VN and it starts decently fast, though slows down a bit in the middle

[tidal shore]

I didn't expect you to be an avid VN reader

JFC

[dusty fable]

Why? I am a sucker for a good story, and some VNs can easily top my list of the best stories

[tidal shore]

hmm

[dusty fable]

Ngl, it helps that I started watching anime in 200x and at that time most of the good anime stories were from VNs. So I kinda got used to VN anime quirks

[tidal shore]

what other VNs did you particularly enjoy?

[dusty fable]

My top1 is G-Senjou no Maou, though it has the same sort of character type you might dislike. Top2 is either Higurashi or Ever17. Then top5 is World End Economica(though WEE just really suits my taste), Saya no Uta(this one you will definitely dislike), and Chaos; Head/ Chaos; Child

[tidal shore]

you will find it surprising to learn that I already read G-Senjou no Maou and enjoyed it quite a bit

[dusty fable]

Then you will like Sharin no Kuni, same devs, same world

[tidal shore]

icic

you're right about Saya no Uta, it's supposed to be psychological horror or something (it has an alien too), but I realised what's going on early (first 10 minutes really) and lost interest

[dusty fable]

Higurashi... Is a weird thing. It has a lot of pointless text, but when on spot, it hits like a truck. But it's better to get to know Ryukishi(author) from Umineko

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I've been rec'd Umineko

before

[dusty fable]

Oh, it's the best horror story I have ever known tbh. But it can be really distasteful

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I see no mention of subahibi though, which is something I saw a few people yap about before too

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what's so horror about it?

[dusty fable]

Language. Sentence formation. Suspense. I would say, author even bested Stephen King at that

But it takes a lot to get there. Not until the protagonist starts to dig up the past

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all I saw was gore and MC being fucked in the head

[dusty fable]

Yeah, it's not even the hardest(or the worst) part to swallow

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it's just really distasteful Imo

[dusty fable]

Like I would totally not recommend reading it, unless you had a ton of experience in body horror/horror genre

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because of gaming I think we're all used to some body horror

[dusty fable]

Yeah, but the part that is really good is worth it. I would say, read through at least Umineko and Higurashi, and if you really like those, maybe you could then try Saya

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hmm I dunno

[dusty fable]

Have you seen Mouthwashing? It is kinda an introductory game to the genre that got some hype

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I tried Higurashi anime once and didn't even get through episode 1

just found it thoroughly dull

kinda like Saya no Uta

[tidal shore]

no but I've seen Darkwood which is a better horror game than anything that's purposefully visually visceral

body horror is really just there for shock value, I take no pleasure in it but neither does it disgust me too much, I find it thoroughly uninteresting

[dusty fable]

Yeah, personally I hate gore in anime. I can understand the dislike. I dropped Umineko and Higurashi multiple times(I finished Higurashi multiple times too). It's just about how fed up you are with every other story in existence

Tbh, Fate has a lot of gore too. It's a horror story, compared to anime

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never got that impression from watching fate/stay night

[dusty fable]

No, in some cases it's not only shock value. Saya no Uta raises some philosophical questions about the perception and makes you confront your own perception. It's done in a rather straightforward way, but hey, if it works, it works

[dusty fable]

Fate stay night doesn't even scratch it. You get a couple horror cases in Fate Zero and that's all. VN is a very different story

Well, in the end, horror is a fickle thing. You can choose not to be impressed and have 0 entertainment value

I do that with action shows most of the time

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fair

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qualia moment

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have you read Dies Irae @dusty fable

[dusty fable]

No

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I recommend

it has vampire na#i zombies

[dusty fable]

I'll remember it. Unfortunately I already have 2 VNs planned

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cya in a few months then

[dusty fable]

at best

[ionic schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/super-nintendo-wolfenstein-3d-wolfenstein-snes-gif-10564913681426794832

[dusty fable]

At this point just play Return to the Castle Wolfenstein

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fr

btw my copy got bugged and I couldn't unlock the true ending

which sucks

it's so fucking horrible

I'm still not over it

[dusty fable]

Bruh, not killing Heinrich VII means Silesia is forever under the Reich because of you

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what

Idr any of that

I did play with a guide though

I couldn't even progress past the first route

cuz options that should've appeared, did not

[dusty fable]

Wait, are you talking about Dies Irae or RtCW?

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Dies Irae

[dusty fable]

Well

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man 😩

[dusty fable]

Ngl, playing with a guide didn't immediately click, because atp zoomers won't be able to complete RtCW without a guide probably

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playing old games without a guide is crazy

[dusty fable]

Part of a charm. 20+ years later my biggest butthurt in my life was from a thing in TES3 Morrowind I spent like 20+ hours looking for. It's still very vivid

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you're going to have a field day with King's Quest then

[dusty fable]

Hmm, pretty sure I played it. I think it had a remake too?

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"oh you didn't combine that jello with an item from 5 hours ago which you can only get at a specific time when specific criteria are met? too bad GAME OVER"

[dusty fable]

Pixel hunting quests from the 90s was another abomination I have fond memories of.

[tidal shore]

I'm thinking King's Quest III

specifically

or that Robin Hood game

this is hostory I'm too young to experience though

especially when coming from a post-soviet country