・anime

[long peak]

I don't think he was naked

[mighty cape]

Are you tired of romance anime/manga that just straight up ends as soon as the main couple confess to each other

[shadow knot]

if they’re mid anyways I wouldn’t care

[rough meadow]

Yeah

That's why I luv my cyberpunk Edgerunners

[shadow knot]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-anime-lucy-cyberpunk-edgerunners-david-gif-26713348

[fair wedge]

Mike Rafi is my fav tbh. (Then again I don't watch any others but him lol)

[mighty cape]

Ocoho from Radiant
She looks so cool

[rough meadow]

"Sorry we couldn't go to the moon together."

[rancid ledge]

https://x.com/mangakagome/status/1838042323432898978?t=_G9b8qKunImJqf3-atigIw&s=19

۟bria (@mangakagome) on X

he’s an AMERICAN?

Twitter · Sep 23, 2024, 2:26 AM

[ionic schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/osaka-azumanga-daioh-ayumu-kasuga-america-american-gif-16371661515816938929

[rancid ledge]

america ya

[rancid ledge]

im convinced the manga is always better than the anime

if theyre not, gimme a manga that has the worst ass writing

[tidal shore]

that's the point of romance tho

if you want the "they live together" part, may as well watch marriage anime

[tidal shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3E4DKqoQNk

[craggy mango]

Nooooo

The official version isnt even available in my country

[weak gyro]

@snow peak

#►♠brago-d-ace op please

Just kidding, thank you for your service king you'll be missed

[long peak]

[topaz linden]

It'll be on aggregators at least

[tidal shore]

true

[craggy mango]

I hope so

[topaz linden]

No reason why it wouldnt lol

They pull everything from the official sites

[craggy mango]

https://twitter.com/Omgiamonfire/status/1838594135558660174?t=g3mWq0uJkFeNE5QUFo_jYA&s=19

Ohmygodiamonfire (@Omgiamonfire) on X

Crunchyroll.jpg

Twitter · Sep 24, 2024, 2:59 PM

[next crescent]

[mighty cape]

I miss pre-Sony-acquired Crunchyroll…

[frank musk]

never used crunchyroll so i cant say anything about it

[craggy mango]

Saudis Gundam by Sunrise studio
https://youtu.be/6CMIFRzuStg?si=oh30FNZjWdjIv90v

Oil money goes hard

[dusty fable]

This is like the highest concentration of tropes I have seen in a long time

[next crescent]

A little late to the repost there doge

[woeful plinth]

whoops

[craggy mango]

Typical bassist

[frank musk]

https://x.com/jojoslyfe21/status/1839168520413712890?s=46&t=fFJWLewvhJoJfrJlBjMwog

Jojo🎰 (@jojoslyfe21) on X

They’re thanking Myamura before they’re thanking gege,let me repeat that for you they’re thanking the person who illegally posts the Japanese comic over the guy who has slaved himself for 6 years to make said comic and you guys are acting like it’s regular?whats going on?

Twitter · Sep 26, 2024, 5:02 AM

jjk fandom are just a different breed

[next crescent]

Rip gege

[craggy mango]

Just normal thursday in twitter

[long peak]

Really?

The only message you've ever sent and it's that

[rough meadow]

I ain't your average sicko

Tf

[long peak]

I'll handle it

[long peak]

https://x.com/dismaidenart/status/1839017276722524164?t=ll3b_lF0as9VVHuz-hAATw&s=19

Dismaiden 🍥 (@dismaidenart) on X

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End but it's Moo Deng the baby pygmy hippo! #SousouNoFrieren #Moodengforeverlove

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 7:01 PM

I didn't steal this from geo

If you're in that gc and you saw this no you didn't

[mighty cape]

https://fixupx.com/redli8ning/status/1839263964586455365?s=46

[next crescent]

[tidal shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjGxGMxvg4M

bangla

[ionic schooner]

im bad just like disco

my bank account is zero zero zero oh no

[tidal shore]

ln adaptations be like

[long peak]

https://fixvx.com/animeDANDADANen/status/1839349220614213632

The music is crazy

[long peak]

[shadow knot]

kensuke ushio moment

[meager kernel]

[long peak]

Oh hey geo!

Nothing to see here

[woeful plinth]

https://twitter.com/seiyuucorner/status/1839513170928627740?t=PbHMfOxThwwebR81-tRhCA&s=19

Seiyuu Corner (@seiyuucorner) on X

Japanese singer and musician Sayuri passed away on September 20 at the age of 28.

She was known for performing the ending songs for Scum's Wish, Lycoris Recoil, My Hero Academia Season 4, and Erased.

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 3:51 AM

F

[shadow knot]

WAIT WHAT

I'm a Sayuri truther that's so fucked man

I usually come back to the scum's wish ed and ranpo kitan ed they go hard af

rest in peace

[next crescent]

Not sayuri

[dusty fable]

@meager kernel No way, she was so good...

[rancid ledge]

WHAT

[craggy mango]

She just got married earlier this year 😔 still very young

[meager kernel]

why did you @ me lime

[tidal shore]

Yeah this anime oozes with style

actually the music reminds me of Persona in some places

English dub still sounding a bit off tho

aside from a few scenes that are 🔥 🤌 quality

[rough meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpeetmZuc80

Wowzers

[next crescent]

Cool

[tidal shore]

what are they making a live action now?

nvm it's anime

am I the only one here who found the Cyberpunk anime meh?

[next crescent]

Probably not

[tidal shore]

oh yea y'all love leaks
did you know there was an inside fight about writing the anime, and the original author got substituted and then not even credited after finishing the entire script?

and most of his work was used for the final story

[next crescent]

No I hadn't heard

[tidal shore]

now you had

and it's unfortunate 😔

[next crescent]

😔

[dusty fable]

Ehh, sorry. I was going to write you a message but responded to that instead lol

[shadow knot]

I've talked to a lot of people who didn't like edgerunners because its very short and rushed

they tend to be characterpilled and not plotpilled, I see edgerunners as a plotpilled show and seeing it any other way would hinder the experience

every character contributes just the right amount to set the tone, set the standards, and regardless of what happens they keep moving

it's literally what I wanted over akudama drive (hated that show) and I wouldn't want edgerunners to be any different, maybe one extra episode but that's the maximum I would change
arguably favourite trigger show enjoyed more than kill la kill

[ionic schooner]

tru

ig the entire point was that they r nobody

cuz in the end the city doesnt change

[shadow knot]

exactly

[next crescent]

[ionic schooner]

🦧

[tidal shore]

explain the difference between character pilled and plot pilled

[shadow knot]

show revolves around the character vs show revolves around the plot

[tidal shore]

when you say "character pilled" I hope you are not talking about that egocentric storytelling that I've been seeing too much of

[tidal shore]

yeah so I find this way of looking at it a little odd because usually a good story has both

[shadow knot]

can you elaborate on egocentric storytelling I'm not familiar with that buzzword

[tidal shore]

it's cuz I made it up, but basically everything revolves around the MC, every side character exists for the sake of the MC, and the world only moves for the sake of the MC

[shadow knot]

that makes sense

[tidal shore]

it's like

think about any generic isekai anime

or most manhwa out there

[shadow knot]

yeah I can easily tell

and easily why I avoid them lmao

[tidal shore]

lmao

so about Edgerunners, I see now what you mean

we didn't get a deep dive into the main characters, so the show made it really hard for me to get invested in them

and so anything that happens to the characters kind of bounced off of me, aside from the Smasher Smash

why he Smash best girl

w/e

I guess I'm into cuckoo girls now

[shadow knot]

I'm a plot guy too, as long as the characters serve their needs and make the story/plot/whatever cool then I'm here from it

[tidal shore]

that's totally fair

[shadow knot]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-smasher-cyberpunk-cyberpunk-2077-live-reaction-smasher-reaction-gif-9150394556507483165

they also made adam smasher 10x better in the anime

[tidal shore]

TRUE

[shadow knot]

mf barely did shit in the game until they reworked him years later

[tidal shore]

in game he was such an underwhelming boss

and I know cuz I beat the game 4 times

I think he got better with the Phantom Liberty dlc

now that I think about it, the game is character driven whereas the anime is plot driven

usually you'd see the opposite

[tidal shore]

nvm I'm projecting, but I do find it interesting

[shadow knot]

slice of life fans seeing their favourite characters do nothing for chapters and episodes

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-that-is-cinema-kino-commercial-charlie-day-gif-10928365559191482329

[tidal shore]

true

I'm gonna be honest

I used to be a SoL hater

until I watched K-On

[shadow knot]

it's how the work resonates with people, you can be moved by the characters or the story or both

sol is an easy example provided because it's usually about the cast living in their world and showcase their appeal to the audience

I thought k-on was cool but I think bocchi the rock is my superior music sol anime next to beck

[tidal shore]

tbh CGDCT is a bit different, cuz before that I watched Running with the Wind

and it's a good example of character driven story

what about stories that do both?

say for example Land of the Lustrous, Heavenly Delusions, Witch Hat Atelier

[tidal shore]

well, they do both really well Imo (ok Heavenly Delusions doesn't exactly fit here, but I'm gonna shill it anyway)

watch Heavenly Delusions

[shadow knot]

houseki no kuni was about the characters until some point in the manga

[tidal shore]

hmm

[shadow knot]

to which it becomes a better aot

heavenly delulu I only watched the anime not read the manga
it felt more about the characters than whatever they're trying to do cuz they're wandering around the apocalyptic world

[tidal shore]

delulu is solulu

[shadow knot]

and a lot of sol utilizes that premise

such as blame!
or the cgdct version that is girls last tour

witch hat atelier I actually haven't read I just see the cool panels

[tidal shore]

hold on

[shadow knot]

looks like a sol with a cracked magic system tho

I'll tap back in an hour gotta run some errands so if you wanna splurge thoughts then I'll see if I can peep afterwards

[tidal shore]

sure

for heavenly delulu there's a whole lot of worldbuilding happening though, so then would plot-driven storytelling be ignoring characters' thoughts?

as I understand it, another example, Overlord, I think it to be plot-driven
is it?

or does plot-driven storytelling require more than 2 parties to organically create [shit happens] kind of stuff?

characters reacting to the world vs changing it? the plot pushing the characters to do [things] vs characters driving the plot and making [things]?

[tidal shore]

ok I think I got it with my last question here, let me know when ur back if I have properly grasped what you're talking about @shadow knot

[dusty fable]

The game simply had pretty bad endgame balance until the rework in PL. You were either OP if you considered your options carefully, or a complete mess if you picked whatever you liked. Lorewise Adam Smasher is very strong

[tidal shore]

mehh I was still OP and I didn't think much about what I picked lol

just a katana and double jump and some epic hacks

[dusty fable]

I am a character shill, but I liked Cpunk anime. Characters are quite good there, especially considering the amount of exposition. I guess I also think that the story was a bit rushed for my taste, considering that it is pretty emotionally heavy, but has a tempo of an action movie which doesn't work that well together.

[ionic schooner]

cyberpunk is so fun

idk how to actually do dmg tho

i did like 1% of smashers health per shot on normal mode

i mustve skipped a tutorial or something

[dusty fable]

Well, that's because endgame katana skillset was OP whatever you built for the most part

[dusty fable]

I would say character-driven narrative makes character inner states influence situation more. E.g. romance is inherently more character driven. Plot-driven narratives make that events and emergencies drive the story more. E.g. detective stories would be inherently more plot driven

And since inner states are unique to each character, they generally require more development time. Because situational environment is shared by most characters, the story rarely goes beyond 2-3 different environments at once.

[tidal shore]

ya you really need end game gear for this and some multipliers for headshot damage

on my 4th playthrough I pretty much did everything in the game 100% (including Phantom Liberty dlc) and it still wasn't that easy

[shadow knot]

lol haven’t watched and zero plan to

so I wouldn’t know

[dusty fable]

Also both kinds of narration can have reactive or proactive main characters. It's just that character driven story is more geared to have proactive characters and plot driven story can be complacent with being reactive

[shadow knot]

^^^ cook

[tidal shore]

yea that was my dilemma

cuz then there's stuff like Overlord where the plot happens because the characters are proactive

but we don't get see into each character's psyche too much

and so the writing feels more detached

like it's a plot-driven thing

as in, the emergent plot from each character's proactivity

ykyk

[dusty fable]

Overlord is complicated. It switches between and often. It is character driven until it kills off the characters. Then, to fill the gap when a new set of characters is being built, they do heavy plot

[shadow knot]

overlord the one piece of isekai!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[dusty fable]

Well, they both excel at introducing new characters well, so in that regard yes

And by introducing well I mean getting you invested

[ionic schooner]

i just useds the guns i liked

like johhnys gun

now i use pride or whatever

its so busted

[dusty fable]

Interestingly, I think it's intentional. It makes you feel that way intentionally, so that you understand MC better, because he is also emotionally detached from the world for the most part. Tbh, Overlord uses the most complex narrative I have seen in a long time, it is very intricate and clever in how it uses its tools

[rough meadow]

Dawg Adam Smasher is kinda light work as long as you have dashes and double jump

[tidal shore]

that explains things

although I think now u can make these guns pretty good in the end game

with the crafting system and weapon upgrades

and skills

[tidal shore]

idk man I pretty much slept through the entire anime

[dusty fable]

I am just not sure what's the endgame there in Overlord, what author wants to achieve. That sort of suspense is very rare, mainly because it could be detrimental to the perception of the story

[dusty fable]

Well, that's the direct result of what author was doing. Basically, a collateral damage

[rough meadow]

From the people I've heard, you rather think Cyberstink is peak, or it's just... Eh

[rough meadow]

Woah ya got the dlc?

[tidal shore]

ye

it's pretty cool

[rough meadow]

I gotta get it, thooo only interested in the black wall quickhacks or whateva

[tidal shore]

xd

fair

[frank musk]

Uzumaki is tomorrow, hope the wait was worth it

[topaz linden]

ngl, I feel like the author got burnt out. everything post holy kingdom has sort of felt like the author just going through the motions

At least, compared to the pretty constant progress of the volumes/arcs before

[craggy mango]

https://fxtwitter.com/animetv_jp/status/1839990990536310988?t=dnKjGZ787pkLxlzt8CUq1g&s=19

Bocchi fans punching the air rn

That fans is me

[ionic schooner]

Af me

[undone marten]

Didn't know HxH was this good wtf

[rustic pivot]

it should've been me, not her

[woeful plinth]

https://twitter.com/seiyuucorner/status/1840044292867489865?t=vyFY6zeQD3JQToOcGFLhJA&s=19

Seiyuu Corner (@seiyuucorner) on X

Happy 27th birthday Yumiri Hanamori! 🎂

Join us in wishing Yumirin all the best @hanayumi09

#YumiriHanamori #花守ゆみり

Twitter · Sep 28, 2024, 3:02 PM

hpbd

atsui

my god yanfei also a precure too wat

[next crescent]

I get scared when one of these is posted because I can't tell anymore whether it's a birthday or death until I read it

[woeful plinth]

lmao

[tidal shore]

Hayasaka!!

huhhh Evileye

those are stand outs I remember

[craggy mango]

Its sad that Kemono Jihen probably wont get season 2

[tidal shore]

and then there's a whole cute and funny section at the bottom

buruaka

[tidal shore]

u liked it that much?

I remember the first few chapters being really strong

[craggy mango]

I really like the later arc

Kon development is really good imo

[craggy mango]

I just realized, she got lead role (Nadeshiko) at young age? Damn

Not as crazy as Sora Amamiya which got 3 lead role at 21, but still

[mighty cape]

Watching the 2011 anime?

[undone marten]

Ye

[mighty cape]

How far are you? And did you reach the first chapter of the manga by any chance?

[undone marten]

Heaven's arena just finished the ||gon vs hisoka|| fight

[mighty cape]

I’d recommend at least reading the first chapter of the manga.

There’s stuff in it that’s gonna be really important down the road that the anime adaptation here kinda did a sloppy job at.

Great anime otherwise.

[shadow knot]

personally the first chapter/first episode from the 1999 didn’t really make a difference for me

[undone marten]

Ah damn

Alright

Thanks

[topaz linden]

Those two + Nadeshiko for me

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-nadeshiko-anime-bump-to-m-irror-gif-12003921

[tidal shore]

CHARACTER NAMED sAGIRI

oops caps

Sagiri

there's only one Sagiri I've known until now

I'm glad she's getting replaced in the public consciousness by Hell's Paradise

[craggy mango]

He walk the talk. Respect.

[ionic schooner]

Not way bro died on the stones

😭

[mighty cape]

It’s a shame you feel that way given it details how Gon met the very same guy that inspired him to be a Hunter in the first place.

The 2011 anime for some strange reason omits this meeting entirely and treats it like a hastily random recollection episode on Gon’s part that only really further de-edifies his character, or to mention how important said character is in later arcs.

It’s really the only thing I’d give the 2011 anime a point down for

[shadow knot]

I would only encourage watching the first ep of 1999 if someone complains that Gon's motivation in the 2011 isn't as convincing

for me I just wanted to see everything unfolds and let the characters do their job

[tidal shore]

league

[dusty fable]

@tidal shore daamn, Mookhyang after ch 210 is firing all cylinders. The shit goes really hard. And it gets better and better

[tidal shore]

yea I think so too

[dusty fable]

Lmao, my first time reading smartphone manga, only on 221 chapter I figured out I can rotate phone to look at rotated pictures. Before I just rotated them in my head.

[ionic schooner]

🔥

[dusty fable]

This story gets really really good. Like Warcraft 3 story only better. Half the dark mages just remind me of Kel'Thuzad. || I am kinda surprised they really believed they would be able to kill Demon Lord as soon as he enters the body of a dark mage. That's like such an obvious vulnerability of a Demon Lord, as if this rumor was intentionally spread to make people more willing to sell their body to a demon. Why would they think a Demon Lord would proceed with such a flaw in a contract ||

[mighty cape]

https://x.com/IIuvatar_/status/1840089057004528014?t=j8YIzNTvBt1jqB633KwXuw&s=19

Iluvatar (@IIuvatar_) on X

i'm still baffled by this.
The Management for Fate/Strange Fake production is absolutly dogshit.

Show wasn't in "actual" production until very recently and out of nowhere Aniplex decided to rush the first episode for ~ in 2 months".

Twitter · Sep 28, 2024, 5:59 PM

Ooooh boy

[craggy mango]

https://fxtwitter.com/MON0EYE/status/1839757714068529212?t=S4aqLBzDLqmZnVXI5oJubw&s=19

[woeful plinth]

https://x.com/han_meg_han/status/1839994652419879191

潘めぐみ💎MEGUMI HAN⁷ (@han_meg_han) on X

シーーーーカ！！！！（日野日野日野日野）

シーーーーカ！！！！（日野日野日野日野）

シーーーーカ！！！！（日野日野日野日野）

シーーーーカ！！！！（日野日野日野日野）

#しかのこ
#しかのこのこのここしたん

Twitter · Sep 28, 2024, 11:44 AM

nun

shikanokonoko

[craggy mango]

https://fxtwitter.com/ShitpostRock/status/1840151168766628194?t=ixs-nCE2aOVBHoH-GS6R1g&s=19

[tidal shore]

this is an emotion

[craggy mango]

Another W for romance enjoyer
https://fxtwitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1840397583690182887?t=15TW9cKmz2GkqifL1mGR5g&s=19

[shadow knot]

good luck to the blue box watchers I thought the manga was cute and decent enough

[tidal shore]

disappointed by the anime adaptation ngl

if it looked like Demon Slayer it would be #1 sports anime

[shadow knot]

shōnen romance moment

[tidal shore]

oh that reminds me

Japan

football world cup

They did an anime moment there

and Blue Box was getting popular around that time

[shadow knot]

I heard of it but wouldn’t know the full details

[tidal shore]

dude

dude the Japan performance in the world cup was insane

they beat Spain you know?

Spain, that Spain

[shadow knot]

I think you are talking about Blue Lock

[tidal shore]

I'm talking about real life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91eoGiLSCgY

[shadow knot]

also I’m NA so I had to do a double take that its “soccer” for us

yeah thats what made blue lock popular not blue box

[tidal shore]

yeah NA do be weird like this

[tidal shore]

damn, this is such a failure, I will never recover from this

[shadow knot]

I remember that moment clearly once I figured you meant soccer and blue lock

[tidal shore]

blue lock blue box same thing 😭

god I will never recover from this 😭L

[frank musk]

such a shame about them getting knocked out tho in the round of 16

[shadow knot]

I mean blue lock is shit anyways just peep the other guy’s work like bokutachi ga yarimashita
jagaaaan maybe but that one fell off

[frank musk]

imagine being put in the group of death and managing to top that group

[tidal shore]

they beat the best football country in the world, I'd say that's an overall win still

[frank musk]

well tbf spain back then wasnt the best team in the world

that was argentina

[tidal shore]

yea

Spain did dominate before a lot tho

[frank musk]

spain in the euro 24 was something else tho

[tidal shore]

they bounced back form the tiki taka

I'd say Euro Spain is the most beautiful Spain I've seen in the past decade

[tidal shore]

u read the manga?

[craggy mango]

That JJK ending is truly one of ending off all time

[tidal shore]

final chapter out?

[craggy mango]

Yee

[tidal shore]

ok time to get on the grind

[craggy mango]

The final page is hilarious af

[tidal shore]

oh boy I can't wait

[shadow knot]

dropped

[tidal shore]

unfortunate

[tidal shore]

I got quite invested (partially cuz I love football)

[craggy mango]

If you like football manga, try Ao ni Nare

I think its far better than Blue Lock

[tidal shore]

sure

ty

[dusty fable]

Tbh, it was destined to spun out. It was already running out of steam towards the end of the anime. But still a good story. That kind of storytelling is just not sustainable

[dusty fable]

Personally, I would suggest Ao no Ashi. One of the most intelligent anime about sports ever

[tidal shore]

BVB looking mfs

[dusty fable]

Team Camaro

[undone marten]

Why didn't they just animate that

Finished the auction arc and got curious so I read the first chapter

[shadow knot]

thats like between yorknew and the greed island arc

[undone marten]

Ye

The little training arc before the screening

Also

Kurapika is a guy right

[shadow knot]

yes 😹

[undone marten]

That emoji's sus

Well they do refer to him as a he so he's a guy ig

[crisp skiff]

https://x.com/gb_anime/status/1840349711863308433

TVアニメ『ぐらんぶる』公式 (@gb_anime) on X

＼俺たちの夏は終わらない！／
⠀⠀TVアニメ『ぐらんぶる』
⠀⠀🍻Season 2制作決定🍻

PaBメンバーが夏空の下で乾杯する
ティザービジュアルが到着！

▼新情報配信中📻
https://t.co/CQ6vAe4gUc

#ぐらんぶる

Twitter · Sep 29, 2024, 11:15 AM

Finally, time to drink some water

[mighty cape]

very nice

[craggy mango]

Ah yes, they make anime adaptation of Nicolaus Copernicus manga
https://youtu.be/u8BYhzoSQ1Q

Madhouse making a lot of anime these days, they're so back

[tidal shore]

still no S2 of NGNL

[dusty fable]

Hmm, how many chapters in Stepmother's Marchen rn?

[dusty fable]

It's rebranded as NMNA now

[dusty fable]

Is Marchen in hiatus?

[tidal shore]

tl;dr?

[eternal wyvern]

Not really anime/manga related, but donut hole getting an mv remake was not on my 2024 bingo list

https://fxtwitter.com/hachi_08/status/1840557345371562292?

...wait is this counts as an mv remake when the og mv doesn't have a plot afaik

[dusty fable]

No Money No Anime kappa

[tidal shore]

😔

[next crescent]

133 chapters for the main story, Stepmother Marchen is on hiatus for right now because it just finished season 2 like a month ago but has uploaded 3 chapters for a bonus story to give insight on certain characters

[next crescent]

What does having a plot have to do with a remake

If they remake it, doesn't that make it a remake?

[next crescent]

Oh sorry, just read the newest extra chapter, the hiatus is official now and not a month ago with the season finale

[dusty fable]

Hmm, I wonder what are the chances that they ended on a cliffhanger? Well, I guess I've started reading it anyway

[next crescent]

On which ending

One they didn't, the other they did

[dusty fable]

The one they did is the only that matters, isn't it?

https://youtu.be/kRL2nBz7Z6E Hmmge, pretty banal, I like it

I feel like this seiyuu works on anime I generally like, even though idk who she is

[frank musk]

oh its reina ueda

[next crescent]

That's the thing, there's two endings

One for the main, current story, and one for a canonical past story

They're both the end of season 2 though

[dusty fable]

Thanks

[dusty fable]

Well, I just don't like cliffhangers, since I generally don't return to ongoing series for a year or two after I stop. That's only manga specific. I like cliffhangers in anime and tv shows

[next crescent]

Ye

[dusty fable]

Turns out I was wrong. She sounded a lot like Saori Hayami. Like 95% Ayaka

[undone marten]

||so this is the guy that gon met in chapter 1||

HxH stuff

He still met him in the anime but they only show it in a flashback

[mighty cape]

A hashed out flashback too

Pretty sloppy

[undone marten]

Yeah, bad flashback

Can't get over how much of a bad father Ging is

[mighty cape]

That’s another thing too

The 2011 anime Glinda glossed over some nuance regarding Ging

Even from the first episode

[undone marten]

Hmmmm

[mighty cape]

Not that the series goes out its way to absolve Ging’s decisions as a father

But in the first chapter of the manga alone you at least knew he didn’t just drop Gon off and left

He lost custody over him

And never came back in the manga

[undone marten]

They didn't tell me this tf

Anime literally said he left gon to do pro hunter shit

[mighty cape]

In the anime it comes off more as “here ya go this is my kid” with no extra context

Which in a way is still a thing in the manga too

But like I said

There’s a bit of context and nuance to it

Don’t get me wrong tho

Ging

Is fucking awful as a dad still lmao

Just you wait

[undone marten]

They don't sugarcoat it in the anime

[mighty cape]

If you thought plotting child endangerment by prepping his kid to explore greed island was bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet

[undone marten]

"yeah he's a shitty father and all of this bs is happening because of that"

Ah so it's banned

[mighty cape]

Ging: “one day my son is gonna land on this island. Give him hell bro.”
Razor: “uhh even if I accidentally kill him?”
Ging; “lol tf you talking about? that’s my son.”

[undone marten]

He had a point though

If you think abt it

"if he's a coward and uses accompany he meets kite"

"If he's brave and uses magnetic force he meets me"

Wtf kinda logic is that

[mighty cape]

https://youtu.be/y2d6yZA6TXY?si=6iYbfpzDkWja-uUN

The first 20 seconds

[undone marten]

Yeah I just saw the ep

[mighty cape]

Gon is a monster

[mighty cape]

Yeah Ging has many people beat at playing “off to get milk”

Also worth noting that Gon never once refers to him by “dad”

Which is really sth given his reaction to listening to Ging’s record as he was about to talk about whoever his mother was.

Mito is his ‘mother’ and he leaves it at that

[undone marten]

Wasn't he referring to him as dad before he returned to whale island or smth

Or was it "Old Man"

[mighty cape]

Don’t remember that

But he largely refers to him by name nonetheless

[undone marten]

Old man or ging yeah

Can't believe ging beats yujiro on being a worse dad

[dusty fable]

Hey, he passed pretty good genes to gon. Pretty good in my books

[undone marten]

You could say that for Yujiro and Baki too

[dusty fable]

With that body structure? Arthritis will make knots of that guy by his 40s

[undone marten]

Also

[mighty cape]

it's Yujiro

this guy will make his own arthritis supress itself from fear

[undone marten]

Isn't passing good genes like

[mighty cape]

[undone marten]

The bare minimum for Ging

[mighty cape]

that's the joke

yes

[undone marten]

Guy's top 5

That's what they're saying atleast

[dusty fable]

Hmmge, I don't think Ging is a guy who would easily pass his genes. Probably deliberate af

[undone marten]

[mighty cape]

yeah.
We don't know where exactly he falls into that compared to the top dogs you'll see in the rest of the anime.

[undone marten]

I like that the MCs not too op and we're constantly reminded that he's got potential but he's got a long way to go

[dusty fable]

He was lucky not to be born into Zoldick family, would have been boring traumatized op mc

[undone marten]

Killua isn't boring though

[dusty fable]

That's because he is a sidekick

And not traumatized

At least not the levels of Shinji traumatized

[undone marten]

He jokes about his trauma

most realistic part of killua if I'm being honest

[dusty fable]

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about his older brother. I retract saying he is not traumatized

[dusty fable]

Aren't top hunters above the law? I doubt losing custody means anything to Ging

[mighty cape]

Togashi wrote the manga

not me

he lost it to Mito nonetheless so, it's not a stretch to see him conceding to that much

[dusty fable]

I mean, if it suited him, then yes

[mighty cape]

there you go

there are jankier bits of hxH I could pick apart myself in terms of consistency

like

how tf did Killua go this long

[dusty fable]

I mean, with or without losing custody fact, he still basically dumped Gon, so that fact is not influential in the grand scheme of things

[mighty cape]

without even formally learning Nen

[dusty fable]

Probably because Zoldicks weren't intent on killing him, quite the opposite? They nurtured in their perverse style a danger instinct in him, which made him survive all the encounters outside

[tidal shore]

I love spoilers 🤩

Can't wait to read my favorite manga HxH and know everything about it 🤩

[mighty cape]

everything has been covered halfway into this anime on this discussion lmao

[tidal shore]

actually good idea, Imma start reading it today

[tidal shore]

it's ok I forgot

it's like 8 years passed or something since I watched

[dusty fable]

And most of it is implied within the first story arc

[tidal shore]

this is how I saw it too

[undone marten]

They knew about his potential

[tidal shore]

if it's what I think it is (hazy memory)

[undone marten]

And Silva wanted him to lead the family so

Yeah

[mighty cape]

that doesn't explain much. Esp given the potential he himself already had, it'd make more sense to actively nurture that sooner.

Kalluto himself, who's several years younger than Killua, already can use it an developed a hatsu at a younger age on top of that.

And you can progressively learn Nen without needing to be exposed to a Nen-based attack to awaken it too. Killua and Gon, being who they are, just decided to speedrun that process in Heaven's Arena.

I chalk it up to be a writing hiccup on Togashi's part really.

[undone marten]

Didn't they learn nen in less than 3hrs

[mighty cape]

they learned it throughout a few weeks iirc

while in HA

[dusty fable]

||I wonder if Silva really expected to be dead by this time by Killuas hand, if not for Gon's influence||

[undone marten]

Oh yeah I forgot

They learned ten in less than 3hrs

Not nen

But still

How the fuck

[mighty cape]

the fastest progress they did in awakening their aura was having Wing forcibly open their nodes for it so they can resist Hisoka's ren yeah

what's more impressive is Kurapika tbh

[undone marten]

Bro came back a monster

Also ||hax ability||

[mighty cape]

he did all that, and developed 4/5 hatsu within months

[dusty fable]

Then Killua would have been more reliant on nen than his instincts which is not a good thing

[undone marten]

Professional hater🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[mighty cape]

and yet Kalluto is right there competent enough even younger. Kalluto's bad habit is that he overindulges in|| beating his victims to a bloody pulp that it wastes time, but not to a point where he's slow either.||

That's a not a main issue under the Zoldyck's wing

hence, likely just a Togashi writing hiccup

it happens

[dusty fable]

Eh, Kurapika would probably have had the most complex character story, if he was Killua lvls of story importance

[mighty cape]

I'm still bitter Milluki did jack all during Yorknew

that amounted to so little lmao

esp after the tease it was bringing up

[undone marten]

Yeah he just got up and left lmao

All he did was ||give kil the hunter website url||

[dusty fable]

Wdym younger? Also it might imply that he is discardable

[mighty cape]

Kalluto is Killua's younger brother

[undone marten]

It's a he?

The fuck

[dusty fable]

Hmm, I remember only the older one and the weeb

[undone marten]

He looks like a she

[dusty fable]

Ohh, her

[undone marten]

Yeah the sibling that's with the mother

[dusty fable]

I also thought it was imouto

[mighty cape]

yep. Almost all of Silva's children are sons.

Though you could prrroooobably make a case for another unseen (for you) sibling. But that's a whole other discussion and topic on certain implications.

You did see a silhoutte of her in the early parts of the anime

but it was super quick

[undone marten]

Bisky is 100% a sailor moon reference

I think so atleast

[mighty cape]

the one to Killua's right

[undone marten]

Oh

Yeah I know her face

[undone marten]

Isn't togashi's wife the sailor moon author

[dusty fable]

Oh yeah, in my memory the girl and the kid fused into one

[mighty cape]

the Zoldyck family relationship chart (spoilering for Arius but it's nothing big either that gives away anything major)

[undone marten]

ig

I alr started chimera ant

[mighty cape]

oh yeah

this guy is funny

Zeno's grandfather

he actually shows up in Yorknew briefly

but was omitted in the 2011 anime

[dusty fable]

A pet rock Zoldyck style?

[undone marten]

Yeah I didn't see him

[mighty cape]

yeah in the anime is was just Kalluto accompanying Illumi

he doesn't really do anything relevant in either version at that point so it's w/e tho

[tidal shore]

capitalism :oooohhhhhhhhhh:

[undone marten]

Is togashi cooking again or did he stop

[mighty cape]

he's cooking

but he's also chronically ill too

spine issues

[undone marten]

Damn

[mighty cape]

he does what he can at his own pace

[undone marten]

Must be hard

[mighty cape]

he actually even leaked out 3-4 possible endings for HxH in case he passes away early

given recent passings we've had

[undone marten]

I don't think we'll even get a continuation in the anime

Madhouse is busy

[mighty cape]

HxH will resume in October iirc

[undone marten]

[undone marten]

AIN'T NO WAY

Holy shit

[mighty cape]

there's not a whole lot to adapt either so far

unless he's planning on ending the current arc soon

*sub-arc

then maybe they could do a 2-cour (24-26 episode) continutation

but I'm in no rush to want more

[undone marten]

I'm fine if they make it seasonal

[mighty cape]

fwiw the anime stops on a very very good note too

[undone marten]

[mighty cape]

much better than whan the late 90s anime stopped for a while

[undone marten]

Bleach has been cooking

[mighty cape]

it stopped legit where Kurapika though the Phantom Troupe were dead lol

during Yorknew

[dusty fable]

What, why would he leak that. Just find a proper successor, it's not unheard of

[mighty cape]

Togashi wants to get the job done himself, so that's his call tbh

[dusty fable]

Pretty sure anyone would be honored to finish HxH

[undone marten]

But then like

It wouldn't be the same

Can you imagine Araki having a successor

[dusty fable]

You would be surprised how well top authors can imitate other works. It's not that hard to finish the work when someone has already done all of the world building and heavy lifting

[undone marten]

Fair point

[mighty cape]

yeah, it's better to just respect their wishes really.

Togashi could totally decide to work with a co-artist if he wanted, but even after that recent one-shot collab he did, he still hasn't

It doesn't just matter if they could, but if they want to (within healthy reasoning). They're human beings too.

[mighty cape]

https://fixupx.com/rhymestyle/status/1840542064875811079?s=46

That was golden but cursed 😭

I can’t

[dusty fable]

Oh no, golden ping

[mighty cape]

https://fixupx.com/extralongdokkan/status/1840788029591765092?s=46

[ionic schooner]

https://youtu.be/YLoTVOO88n4?si=x-pR5tZwbQNu_YPz

[rough meadow]

Chooms

[ionic schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/cyber-punk-edge-runners-david-martinez-jumpscare-scream-gif-26935683

hes me

[rough meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/maine-just-keep-runnin-xd-gif-10021849997427746219

Just keep on running

[ionic schooner]

and then he ran so hard his jacket became wearable in the game

🔥

[undone marten]

The amount of spit in the room

[novel knot]

Guys, is he hot?

I personally think he’s hot.

[topaz linden]

I mean, if you're into that I guess

He strikes me as the annoyingly flamboyant type

[long peak]

Eh

[next crescent]

He gives me James vibes if James was blonde, grew his hair out, and had a scar across his face

[undone marten]

@mighty cape how would you rate the chimera ant arc

[craggy mango]

Original anime Mecha Ude, coming this thursday
https://youtu.be/jmdyjRVPZ7E

Looks fun

[topaz linden]

oh yeh, forgot this week/next week is when the next season starts

nice reminder

[woeful plinth]

https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1841009920562385300?t=lw6mjAur9sQz6qlJnBqQCw&s=19

Amelia Watson🔎holoEN (@watsonameliaEN) on X

o7

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 6:59 AM

o7

[fluid tinsel]

Which anime was rokudenashi one voice from?

I kept getting akashic records in searches

[frank musk]

Just checked, its not an op or ed of an anime, its just a popular j-pop song

[ionic schooner]

NO

ITS GOING BY TOO FAST

[next crescent]

"I just like how the word sounds"

[rancid ledge]

if my tastes are bad in anime how are yall finding ones that are peak?

[woeful plinth]

https://twitter.com/CloudMonkeyTWT/status/1841151957479931943?t=EUfNw4uIXUL9P0Pbvk6nBw&s=19

Cloudy (@CloudMonkeyTWT) on X

Rie Takahashi just built different

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 4:23 PM

rieri moment

[next crescent]

It's preference

If your taste isn't the same as someone else's and they think it's trash, then that's just their preference

[rancid ledge]

well fair

[shadow knot]

yeah I don't get the question because what if you think your taste is peak

what makes you think its bad

like my "peak" anime can be "shit" to others for instance

[topaz linden]

Part of it is getting exposed to a large enough amount of shows that you can start telling what's original/unique to a show, what's been done elsewhere but better, and just a broader idea of where a show falls in general vs looking at it just on its own

Your taste will be different than others ofc, everyone's is different. But exposure will let you refine it so you can find stuff that's "good" (to you) easier, and explain your taste better to others

[next crescent]

Yee

[frank musk]

took them 6 years, but we finally have an official violet evergarden figurine

it also costs 50k yen (well those are the rumors at least)

https://tenor.com/view/violet-evergarden-anime-running-umbrella-sassy-gif-16841559

really great pose they chose

[next crescent]

The best moment they could've chosen for it

[tidal shore]

I need to keep reminding myself that she's a war veteran

[next crescent]

A traumatized one at that

[shadow knot]

too bad I didn’t like the show, VE herself is cool though

[dusty fable]

Feels lacking nuance or substance imo. The war feels superficial despite the drama. The drama itself is pretty good, solid storytelling

[frank musk]

Now that u mention it, the war isnt mentioned much in the show

[dusty fable]

Wasn't MC originally a war tool that tried to integrate into society by working in a post office? Like the allegory for veterans not being able to reintegrate. And the other notion is that if ppls lives are disrupted, they still live on in their communications? Like an allegory that internet remembers everything in a good way

Well, at least that was my impression from the anime

If I remember correctly, the story happens on a backstage of a big war happening elsewhere(or was it one war has ended and the next one was about to begin/beginning in the end?), but still being a pretty central motif to the story

[frank musk]

Wait

I didnt think of it that way when i first watched it

Now the war veteran thing ppl have been saying makes sense

I should probably rewatch the show

[dusty fable]

Well, there was a whole romance with a war officer story arc too, though I mostly remember a pendant part of it

[frank musk]

only eps i remember were the mother ep and the first ep, notably the moments where she failed at making letters for that woman

[outer scaffold]

Hey, going oot, i think it's a criminal that Snow Man's agency doesn't release Stories (Black Clover op 11) to spotify

[rough meadow]

Watch one that you think is your taste, look and see if you can connect with the stories and characters, look if you really love the visuals and stories. Boom

[dusty fable]

Aww, such a good touch to these characters. I love the artist drawing this manga

[craggy mango]

Wake up babe, new episode of Re Zero and Gun Gale are out

[next crescent]

Yeee, the artist does amazing

Hands down the best art I've ever seen for an ongoing manhwa series

Their grasp of lighting, anatomy, colors, everything is just so good

And how they use textures without it looking out of place or cheaply thrown on

[tidal shore]

victorian pattern gloves

funny how patterns like this can be printed for 5 cents today, whereas 200 years ago it would take a king to commission something like this

man I just love Victorian style, fashion peaked then and there

it's only been downhill ever since

fuck, they even had pockets (real ones) for women

[next crescent]

Yeah, the fact they had functioning pockets because women genuinely needed the space for carrying stuff to do their daily tasks and now it's basically expected that you wear a purse

[dusty fable]

There is still a difference in embroidery. Cheaper embroidery has more uniform pattern, also it uses less thread, so it has less relief.

[dusty fable]

I wish the story expended a bit more time developing other characters besides main cast. Even Richelieu barely gets any. I guess it's the problem you get when translating a book into a manhwa

[next crescent]

Did you read until the current chapter

[dusty fable]

No, but going 70 chapters without much outside the manor is... Harsh.

[next crescent]

A little, but you get more insight on different characters

Not nearly as much as the main cast of course, but each one gets their spotlight with time I feel

[dusty fable]

Like I kinda understand what kind of story this is, but families like these have a lot of properties around the land. So visiting them for organizing purposes would be a good change of scenery and respite from the manor. Plus, the older kids are about the age where they should start participating in overseeing properties that belong to the family

Funny, how this is totally not a problem for a book, since it doesn't require diverse scenery

[rancid ledge]

anybody watching re zero season 3

[next crescent]

Did you read the book before Jake showed you the manhwa?

[tidal shore]

see at least pockets are small enough to know what you have and where, a purse on the other hand puts every item in a quantum superposition 💀

every time my mom asks me to search for one particular thing for her, I question it every time

[dusty fable]

No

I meant in general

[next crescent]

Neither have I, so I won't assume they've removed a huge chunk of story to focus on the main cast

In general is fine, but you were specifying with this story when we don't know if that's what they've done or not

[dusty fable]

The manhwa literally implies it. They do a 3year skip out of nowhere and describe how different factions formed, which is likely properly written in a book so it's safe to assume

[dusty fable]

I kinda consider manhwa and the novel as separate stories

[next crescent]

I found the novel translated so I guess I'll read it and see

[dusty fable]

I meant the development of factions. The time skip is likely there, 3 years is a large period of time

[dusty fable]

Also, I think you misunderstood me

Or I am misunderstanding you

[next crescent]

This reads as you saying it's an issue specific to this story as well

And the second time you mentioned when a novel gets translated into a manhwa

Which is why I asked if you read it

Like I said, in general is fine
But you said it after that which makes it feel like you were specifying that it was the same with this story too

That's all

For all we know, the novel could expand more about the main cast and they cut out a bunch there for the manhwa

[dusty fable]

@next crescent Eh, I should have elaborated. I meant the pacing of the story. Like 70 chapters of manhwa could be a rather small amount of pages. So when you translate say 100-150 pages of a book into 70 chapters, story in a book feels to be developing faster than when it is realized in manhwa format

And when events in a book are decently paced, it can feel slower in manhwa

So, I didn't mean any sort of omissions

[next crescent]

That's just what happens when words turn into pictures

[tidal shore]

then it's an issue with the approach to an adaptation, not the story or the format

[next crescent]

All those long sentences describing a 1 second scene that take a couple of minutes to read can be summed up in a single image

But also that's not what your message conveyed, you complained about other characters not getting expanded upon and then brought up that it's an issue with translating written story into a manhwa lol

[dusty fable]

Yes, which is exactly what I meant in a highlighted sentence. But it doesn't mean that I don't feel that the pace of side character development is a bit slow

[next crescent]

So that's probably where this misunderstanding comes from

[dusty fable]

Well, yeah, I skipped a thought. But basically what I meant is that I expect that side characters were developed later in the book, but it takes ages for manhwa to get there

[next crescent]

I mean, you're also at 70

There's another 60+ chapters to read in the manhwa and it isn't finished yet

[dusty fable]

Idk, maybe I am not an avid manga reader, or spend too much time looking at pictures. It took me 10 hours to read 70 chapters, and the progression feels a bit slow for that amount of time

[tidal shore]

this is what I feel with most manhwa too

progression could be so slow sometimes for no reason, maybe try not to give a new picture to every 4 words 😭

[dusty fable]

Maybe they expect you to scroll faster? If you consider, one manga spread (2 pages) contains between 4 and 16 frames, and you kinda get all of them in one glance. In manhwa you get 1-3 frames per glance

[tidal shore]

maybe

or maybe averahe manhwa chapter has less frames than average manga chapter

which wouldn't surprise me

also, I think if a story doesn't expand on characters and kind of ignores side characters from the start then it's not a good story

[dusty fable]

They might, but what I meant is information throughput

[tidal shore]

whatever you mean by this

just say ur getting less content per chapter

or per page

[dusty fable]

Amount of information you get per minute of reading on average. Manga allows more frames thus more info to get to you in one glance which means you get information inherently faster

[tidal shore]

ye it's pretty much the same thing, just said differently

ok well there's some difference nvm

oh, that would explain why it takes so long to read too and why the pace feels like shit

[dusty fable]

So to equalize the throughput, you need to scroll manhwa faster

Which is probably what zoomers do

[tidal shore]

I get it man, please stop elaborating I don't want to get stuck on a small detail 😭

[tidal shore]

hey, I'm a zoomer, how dare you

oh I know

this is like what happenned to The Hobbit movies

[dusty fable]

Hey, I have just spent some time on a misunderstanding, because I skipped a thought, let me elaborate

[tidal shore]

manhwa is just The Hobbit movies without the movies part

[dusty fable]

From the start is different thing for a book. "A start" could be anywhere between 50 and 200 pages, because if you are an avid reader, you read 50 pages in an hour (or even faster than that)

[tidal shore]

crazy

[dusty fable]

I remember in junior school, reading comprehension expected us to read 1 page of text per minute for a top grade. That's like 250-300 words I think? And then you have either to summarize what you have read in a paragraph or two, or answer quirky questions to check that you have read it. I wonder if there are still tests like these

[next crescent]

We had to do that in elementary school in order to even continue on with reading classes

Like I wasn't going to be able to take Spanish courses until I was able to read roughly 200 words in a minute

My brother couldn't get it so he had to take English courses geared towards improving reading for another 3 years before he took Spanish in high school

Now I can barely read like 150 a minute

And we had to read it out loud for the teacher to hear so they could count how many words we read legitimately

So you can imagine how much we slurred our speech trying to read at the speed of light at the age of 10

[tidal shore]

we didn't have those

or well, I wouldn't have known since I skipped most of school anyway

there's a chance I missed it

I totally would've failed tho

this test is geared against ADHD

u have it u don't pass, no way

[dusty fable]

Yeah, likely. Simply because reading is not the single means of getting information nowadays. It is like schools went from teaching pupils memorizing whole chapters to memorizing a page or a couple pages for recitation (probably a couple paragraphs nowadays). Because the skill became more obsolete

[tidal shore]

well, this is Poland, so probably nothing changed for 80 years

all teachers yapping about how students dehumanise them

meanwhile they ignore how school dehumanises literally everyone, and students have it the worst

right, I'm just venting

anyway, discussion isn't even taught here so it's pretty bad

[dusty fable]

Ah yes, we had this variant too, reading aloud fast. Funny to remember

[tidal shore]

reading comprehension only goes as far as "my interpretation is correct, your grade depends on how close your interpretation is to mine"

ur still expected to read aloud, they do that in primary and sometimes in middle school (now it's just 9 old fashioned classes in one package), but no one's timing u on it

[dusty fable]

Let's be honest, teachers have it rough. It wouldn't be that bad if they had to teach 5-10 ppl, instead of 25-35

[next crescent]

You can suck at passing it until a certain point where they force you forward whether you're ready or not

[tidal shore]

teachers also have a choice and aren't forced into a system where they can't say no

[next crescent]

Which is what they did with my brother

[tidal shore]

a teacher has pretty much the same protection as a government employee, they're untouchable

they're protected by law no matter what happens

[dusty fable]

What choice? Not to teach? Not a good choice tbh, we need more teachers not less.

[next crescent]

Ours kinda are

[tidal shore]

they can abuse their authority and get away with it (most of them do)
they can be lazy asf and demand higher payments (most of them do)
they can be incredibly incompetent and abusive (many of them are)

but I am biased, this is only my experience

[next crescent]

They aren't protected by law the same way a governing office is

They're incentivised to push students forward because if any are held back it is a negative look for the teacher so no matter what happens they try and push students to the next grade

Which is ultimately fucking kids over

[dusty fable]

A lot of these issues can be solved by better wages and smaller classrooms tbh

[tidal shore]

what no consequences does to mf

[next crescent]

I think this is a difference from cultures because our teachers can't really demand higher pay and need a second job to live the minimum a lot of the time, and very much do get punishment for abuse if they're caught

[next crescent]

The consequences are on the teacher if the kid doesn't succeed, so the teachers are incentivised to continue a kid's education past where they are able to succeed because if they don't the teacher will get penalized

[dusty fable]

I am pretty sure teachers are generally underpaid all around the world

[tidal shore]

I see, my school participated in a protest a few months before the finals and it was all the lazy teachers that ruined my passion for the subjects I was supposed to learn, that's when I completely lost faith 💀

[next crescent]

I'm pretty sure that's what happened to me because I would continually fail almost every class but every teacher would pass me with the bare minimum it takes to pass

I didn't start doing better until I got to college and took a course I had basic knowledge in already and the professors actually catered to the students because they wouldn't get penalized for failing anyone

[tidal shore]

niiiice

[next crescent]

But still passionately wanted everyone to succeed

[tidal shore]

yea passionate teachers make all the difference

[dusty fable]

The unfortunate thing is it goes both ways. Teachers can lose faith in teaching or simply burnout, so they become lazy

[tidal shore]

so change job, go on vacation, Idk

oterwise ur fucking over hundreds of students for your own personal gain

this is like the trolley problem

iirc teachers here get longer vacation because burnout is a thing

[next crescent]

"go on vacation"

Not in America you don't

[dusty fable]

Well, if teacher changes job, the next teacher gets more load and faster burnout. And we get a negative feedback loop

[next crescent]

Our teachers didn't really get more vacation than anyone else, they'd maybe have a week or two off a year

And then there's the teachers who stay over the summer months for summer school, so they don't even get the summer off like the students mostly do

[tidal shore]

man.

unfortunate

[next crescent]

A lot of times it's someone who genuinely wanted to do the job but the job ends up being more stress than they were originally prepared for

[tidal shore]

honestly, I feel like teaching is one of those jobs that would benefit from lower working hours

[next crescent]

And get fucked over over time, and then fucking over kids because they have a life they want to hopefully pay for (i.e. affording food)

[dusty fable]

Our teachers had a fucking 50-60 hour workweek. They got bonuses sometimes. Sad life

[next crescent]

I feel like teaching gets brushed off to the side with how hard it actually is on people vs what people think it's like

[next crescent]

Yeah

[tidal shore]

anything that pertains to our mental and social development should be treated with utmost care, that should include teachers too because they're more responsible than most people care to admit

[next crescent]

At least it feels like people are trying to help that, it just isn't as good as anyone would want it to be and probably never will

[tidal shore]

so fucked up we get all these underfunded national education systems

[next crescent]

Ye

[tidal shore]

it's practically the country saying "ehh what do I care about our youth -- waves hand"

[dusty fable]

And those 50 hours is not sitting in office either. Like most of it is actual work

[next crescent]

I think most from like 6-7am all the way to about 4pm

My middle school started classes at 8 but the school itself opened to students at 6 and you'd see teachers there

[tidal shore]

don't they work different hours? can't be a 10 hour work day, right?

ohhh right

cuz Poland has paid breaks

Idk about Murica

so they probably stay on site there longer

[dusty fable]

We also had an afterschool curriculum, which was often nominally paid (like very small fee). Teachers didn't need to do those, but they did

[next crescent]

They're there the entire day from the moment they walk in the door (usually around 6:30-7am) to prep their work for the day and didn't leave until their final class at 3pm

But many stayed after school hours to do more work for the next day's classes and help any students who needed it

[tidal shore]

the way I saw it some teachers actually came after me and left before me

[next crescent]

Plus there were clubs after school that required a teacher's guidance

So several dozen would stay for that

[tidal shore]

actually, school was pretty much empty on my 6th through 8th lessons (8 lesson school day be like)

[next crescent]

Idk if teachers got paid to stay after though

We ourselves didn't get to have breaks outside of transition between classes and our lunch period until senior year when we could finally have a study hall if we got enough credits for college

[tidal shore]

huhhhh you had clubs? nice

[next crescent]

But teachers didn't get that since they'd still have students for their classes who didn't get study hall

[dusty fable]

Probably either a bonus system, or parents collected funds themselves.

[topaz linden]

Just checked because I'd find a 3 year timeskip to be a very strange change from the source material: that's in the web novel too

[next crescent]

Our parents paying the teachers directly to stay after?

God no, not unless someone was feeling very charitable

[dusty fable]

Thanks, well it's a large timeskip, so it is likely to be there. Still probably elaborated more on succession factions in the book

[dusty fable]

Well, you kinda expect a teacher to teach your kid for 3 to 6 years, so being a little charitable goes a long way. Meaning simply that you want to support your teachers. At least not unthinkable

[next crescent]

3-6 years?

[dusty fable]

When I studied, we had subjects change their teachers permanently a couple times. Not a great experience, since you have to adapt to a new teaching style all over again

[next crescent]

We had one teacher per class per year and most didn't teach multiple different grades

[dusty fable]

Well, that's a better situation that we had. Physics, math, biology, chemistry etc, we had like a single teacher per 2-3 years on average.

[tidal shore]

depends on the school I guess

mine had 3 years per class, then switch

then middle school and high school didn't care

it was kinda random

[dusty fable]

Some really good teachers taught the whole length of 6 years

[next crescent]

The only time we had that was in elementary school where each teacher was teaching us all subjects, from basic math to basic science

[tidal shore]

yeeee

that's it

[next crescent]

Then middle school introduced us to transitioning to different classes across a 3-floor building, having different teachers for each subject, our classes being different depending on the day, and rotating electives throughout the year

And that continued into high school

Only some math and history teachers were insane enough to take on teaching different levels of their core subject across different grades

[dusty fable]

Well, yeah. The same system. But we had teachers teach us multiple years. Like animal and plants biology teacher, human biology teacher etc, each took 2-3 years. Similar for chemistry, maths and physics

[tidal shore]

that only happened past the 3rd grade for us

starting from 4th

[next crescent]

Yeah no, we had different teachers each time

After elementary school

[dusty fable]

I guess having a lot of teachers does disincentivize you from supporting them... Which means less money circumventing the educational system with a possibility of a better education if teachers are actually specialized in their subjects

I guess our system worked well, because teachers were incentivized by school to have students win competitions, so the teachers actually adapted their classes to their students somewhat. This unfortunately made it impossible to ask what was on the test another group of students who had it before us

[shadow knot]

akudama drive
edgerunners

[rough meadow]

Real

[craggy mango]

Common knowledge

Akudama Drive only hyped because Cyberpunk game were suck at that time

[shadow knot]

I mean there are snobs who still think akudamid is better

and edgerunners isn't because its a trigger show at the end of the day

even if it's literally what I wanted out of akudama, like hell its literally reuses the same ideas but made it more plotcore and fun to my liking

[fluid tinsel]

Aniwave alternative right now with lots of anime library. i only need title and most popular assortment then I'll dl them on nyaasi

[dusty fable]

Just use Livechart (literally the name of the site) to find what anime aired per each season

[craggy mango]

Wake up babe, Dandadan first episode is out

[tidal shore]

first 17 seconds a guy alrdy 💀

cryptobros getting animated

💀

[eternal wyvern]

Just saw they've already uploaded the OP and ED for dandadan on yt, almost forgot the anime starts airing on netflix today

Time to watch it then

[craggy mango]

Is that Trillion Game?

Damn thursday really is stack

[long peak]

https://youtu.be/ovW7yRi1iJ8?si=PnegFLbOoZ1Wg7UI

[tidal shore]

negative positive angler

[long peak]

The Ed is sick as hell

We love turbo granny in this household

[tidal shore]

idk if I can say this but the guy tries to hang himself in first 17 seconds so watch out

[tidal shore]

heh balls

[long peak]

We getting okaruns balls back with this one 🗣️🔥

[tidal shore]

we love ball stealers in this household 🗣️ 💯 🔥

war on balls 🗣️💯🔥

[eternal wyvern]

This ED makes me already feeling kinda sad ||since we don't get to see her in the manga nowadays, I hope we get to see her again soon||

[long peak]

||Nah she'll come back, trust||

[eternal wyvern]

Also just finished watching episode 1, honestly forgot how snappy the pacing was in the manga

I like how creepy the set designs vibes are, reminds me again how bad I am w/ creepy stuff and jump scares in general lmao

Can't wait to watch the 2nd ep next week

[craggy mango]

Science Saru is perfect for Dandadan

[tidal shore]

Science Monkey????

[craggy mango]

They always have unique art for all of their work

[tidal shore]

oh they're literally called Science Saru

I'll never understand why the Japanese like to mix and match English with Japanese romanised like that but sure

ayo they produced a lot of amazing anime

nice

[eternal wyvern]

Ooh they shared a couple of the osts to their yt channel, nice. I hope they'll publish the full version of the ost from the first trailer/teaser one day, it was really nice

https://youtu.be/aDrjQLXgbbw?si=Iy__buRDncbHBtwc
https://youtu.be/mXZoX8Wx9cw?si=xsIHdykOxS8X0a8l

Also TIL the new official hige dandism that got uploaded a few days ago was for blue box's anime OP

[tidal shore]

yo that's neat

[eternal wyvern]

Was wondering what's with the blue in the title

Eve also did the ED for the anime, "teenage(d) blue"

[craggy mango]

They also got Kensuke Ushio for bgm

Just perfect

[eternal wyvern]

I honestly do not know who that person is, but I saw a lot of comments praising them, so I'm assuming they're a big name musician in the anime industry

[tidal shore]

yee ost and even sfx artists are generally unsung heroes

in animation

[tidal shore]

I'm looking at his catalogue and he did quite a bit for some of the most memorable anime for me

[eternal wyvern]

Ooooh

[craggy mango]

There is other anime which got beautiful animation and Kensuke Ushio's music this season

Its called Chi Chikyuu, will be dropped tomorrow

I think its a first anime that sets in Poland

[tidal shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9tu253SOas

wow

he also did this

[eternal wyvern]

Just read the synopsis for chi chikyuu, got somewhat interested. Maybe I'll put it on my reading wishlist, since I'm more of a manga reader than an anime watcher tbh

[tidal shore]

yo Science Saru is doing Ghost in the Shell in 2026

[eternal wyvern]

Ooh chi chikyuu was only 62 chapters? I don't have to put it on the back burner that much then, I thought it was on going or smth

[dusty fable]

Remake?

If so, tough call

[tidal shore]

Idk

probably a new adaptation with a new take

[dusty fable]

Gits arguably the most iconic cyberpunk anime

Good luck

[tidal shore]

yep

Japan has Ghost in the Shell

Murica has Blade Runner

both bombed on release

both became cult classics

[dusty fable]

It would be great, if they manage it. Gits is great, but damn it has drops in pace that don't really work with narration. Could use some brush up

[tidal shore]

can't speak about it since I never watched it

nor have I watched Blade Runner

sorry!

[dusty fable]

You should really watch Blade Runner. If you get a mood, it needs that, but the experience is great

[tidal shore]

I just know it's a philosophical story

and I'm pretty much convinced that we already live in a Cyberpunk without any of the fun Cyberpunk gadgets and tech

so Idk if it will have as big of an impact on me as it should

[dusty fable]

It is, but for the most part it's a SciFi detective. You don't dip into philosophy too much, until the end

[tidal shore]

fair

[dusty fable]

Ehh, you don't appreciate internet and smartphones and soon AIs enough. All that shit was SciFi for the most part when I was a kid

[tidal shore]

what about flying cars and cybernetic implants?

I want those too

[dusty fable]

Why would you want those

[tidal shore]

why not?

[dusty fable]

Flying cars don't give any advantage to conventional transport. If anything, I was hoping maglev or hyperloop would work out

[tidal shore]

hyperloop would be cool too

flying cars are cool tho

they're just cool

build them cuz they're cool

no other reason

just like with jetpacks

[dusty fable]

Implants is mostly bullshit. If we are to get anything with that, bioengineering is the way, but it's a long way there

Like implants work, but it is just a crutch

[tidal shore]

yeah implants include bioengineering

u need bioengineering for the kinds of implants I have in mind

[shadow knot]

people watching dandadan rn meanwhile me who skimmed 6 episodes of it

[shadow knot]

ushio easily top5 anicomposers

[tidal shore]

booooooooo

[dusty fable]

Technically, you don't need implants. With proper bioengineering you will get an Internet of Things, but biological. So anything you want could be achieved through external bioorganisms connected to your own biocosm

[shadow knot]

need to tell people its mid and proved that I’m 2 steps ahead

https://tenor.com/view/nikocado-avocado-nikocado-two-steps-ahead-what-i-do-ellie-and-mason-house-gif-3434051371042453549

[tidal shore]

okay but ur supposed to find that out together with everyone 😭\

I'd say the manga is pretty entertaining, dunno about the anime

[shadow knot]

I trust saru doing the adaptation justice but I dropped the manga after a few chapters

[dusty fable]

Manga looks like something to get into my top3, unless they fuck it up

[shadow knot]

cool art and fights but for me it got old fairly quickly

[tidal shore]

damn this is crazy

I didn't find dandadan to be thought provoking at all, which is what I usually consider when deciding on my favorites (aside from being entertaining)

[shadow knot]

they can make as many dirty jokes as they want and I’ll laugh at them but after a bit I was like yeah lemme read something else

[tidal shore]

what about you?

[shadow knot]

thought provoking is crazy

[dusty fable]

Well, I didn't read it. Just the idea should work well with me, so it is up to implementation

[tidal shore]

elaborate

[shadow knot]

why should I? I dropped the manga in less than 10 chapters so I wouldn’t know

[tidal shore]

oh I thought u were referring to "thought provoking" used as a criteria

[dusty fable]

Thought provoking is too uncertain for me. Like I consider Skip to Loafer thought provoking. I could write an essay. Like yeah, there are anime that specialize in that, but otherwise any good story is thought provoking

[shadow knot]

battle shōnen fans calling anything thought provoking in general is funny

hxh watchers when they find out humans were far worse than ants all along

[dusty fable]

Hey, do you mind if I dm you?

[tidal shore]

sure

I've been yapping for 4 hours now but sure

[tidal shore]

ahh yeah battle shounen really aren't meant to be thought provoking, true

but yk

anime isn't just geared to teens

actually what am I saying, you do know this

there's no need to elaborate

back to ck3 babyyy

🤩

[long peak]

Dandadan is mostly spectacle, but it is super cool

The fights are sick

And the creativity is off the charts

[craggy mango]

Just watch kekkon surutte (365 days to wedding) first episode, it has 'okay' adaptation as expected

I just hope they dont skip too much story

The first episode already adapted more than half of first volume smh

Also they changed the little detail ||its supposed to be Siberia instead of Alaska|| idk why

[ionic schooner]

https://youtu.be/eC4QkSVyWsI?si=rcZos1P2e2pVVGcZ

[eternal wyvern]

I still have a few gripes w/ how some of the arcs ended feeling kinda abruptly ||(the Vamola arc showed the most imo)||, but overall just easy fun read in general

Speaking of easy dumb fun read, just remembered I haven't kept up w/ another battle manga that I like. I hope there's a new update on that one

[undone marten]

I can now see why some people think Chimera Ant is one of the greatest anime arcs of all time

[outer scaffold]

Hey guys, what would Vivi from one piece be if it's based on real life? (You guys know where this is going right?)

[tidal shore]

are u asking cultural inspiration for character design?

[outer scaffold]

Yes. (Sorry for the late response)

[craggy mango]

I think i agree with Matsunaga (Creepy Nuts), this song hits harder than Bling Bang Bang Born
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKw_Astidg&si=qnmApxFH1ovGYSgX

[tepid sky]

https://youtu.be/IVYjJ5eEmuk?si=Mi0VO3aGJRqE8l7N

[undone marten]

https://youtu.be/LVKOsWZm8Ms?si=OmLCIQQY43aqM1uD