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enable subs, there's English

mighty cape
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If you see intentional hiding of the hands

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Get a lil sus

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they've gotten kinda good at it too

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hold on lemme bring up some examples

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No shit AI has problems lol

mighty cape
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Drawing hands HARD

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And it blows when people assume actual drawn art is AI when

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The artist genuinely struggled with hands

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I really don't give a shit about "AI or not"

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People acting like we just replaced manufactures with machinery or some shit

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If it’s a tool used to complement the human input, I don’t mind. Like the spider verse films.

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Past that? I get iffy

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Idc, get gud or scramble

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Survival of the fittest

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My ass ain't paying for commissions ever again after AI gets better

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Shit's expensive as hell

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AND takes a long time

mighty cape
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Well kinda depends where you’re looking tbf. Been commissioning more skeb artists as of late with how low the yen has gotten.

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Lmfao

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But it can take a while

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It’ll usually be a month before I get the completed piece

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That fucking sucks

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I want my shit done NOW 🗣️🔥💯

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Or they don't get my vision and draw smth else entirely

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Fuckass artists like that exist after all

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tidal shore
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sorry

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about tghe last pic

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I'm still not sure if it's AI or not, but it only exists on some suspicious chinese site, it was also uploaded to a pinterest account that mainly uploads AI

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so it's like

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hmmm

junior vessel
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well pinterest, its either ai or stolen/repost

tidal shore
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it's okay we have SauceNAO to back us up

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maybe the model was trained on this

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unless that's also AI

edgy bone
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everytime i tried using saucenao it didnt help

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but i saw some cool ai arts on twitter the other day

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i couldnt even tell they were ai just by looking

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crazy

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well

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we all learn with time

edgy bone
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for me it 's like

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hmmmm

edgy bone
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once they settle on an artstlye and start spamming it everywhere i get used to it and can spot it

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but when they change the artstyle i can't really tell at ifrst

tidal shore
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yeah this is why u gotta watch for common characteristics across all of AI generated images

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like

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the smoothness of brush strokes

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but it requires you to more closely inspect regular art for a while to understand

edgy bone
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i mean i dont really care

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as long as the art is pretty it works for me

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damn

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artists are sooo doomed

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what commodification of art does to mf

high storm
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Boruto never fails to disappoint

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What shit drip

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same author btw

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edgy bone
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kishi only does the writing afaik

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oh is that so?

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I didn't know

edgy bone
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it used to be

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Yeah Boruto looks like shit

edgy bone
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artist +writer duo without kishi

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then kishi started a new separate manga

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the manga got axed

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edgy bone
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then kishi was like hey actually i want back on boruto

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then they fired the other writer lmao

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edgy bone
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oh he wrote that

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For 10th anniversary of Naruto

edgy bone
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i sitll havent read those

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10th?

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It is a very nice side story

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Sorry I meant 20th

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Oopsies

edgy bone
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gotcha

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altho wait there was a minato one shot in 2019?

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i dont remember

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The 2023 one

edgy bone
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shouldnt that be like

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50 pages

edgy bone
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25th anniversary then

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or is this counting the anime or

high storm
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¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯, I mean anime did start airing in 2004 no?

edgy bone
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ig? but im not used to manga authors doing stuff for anime anniversaries

high storm
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Oh it was actually 2002

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Naruto99 and the winner gets a oneshot

edgy bone
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yea but that's not the manga author

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Minato won

edgy bone
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that's shueisha

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that poll was so wack

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why was itachi's friend like top 3 or w/e

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bro had like 5 chapters tops

high storm
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Shisui is the goat bruh

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The vote was just fans wanting to know more about this or that guy

edgy bone
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how would voting help with that

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I mean one shot was sick

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edgy bone
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ah that's how that worked

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but why would shueisha do something for the anime anniversary

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esp when the manga anniversary is this year

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Maybe Kishimoto asked or smth, what does it matter ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠∵⁠ ⁠)⁠┌

edgy bone
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just feels weird is all

high storm
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Eh, maybe

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How is this shit monthly

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Ofc they gave Boruto failing raijin with solo activation

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Fucking LAME

edgy bone
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casually dropping spoilers in a public server

high storm
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It's fucking Boruto bro

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Also it's a super minor spoiler, because that was like a given he gonna have it eventually

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It's like being surprised Boruto gets a rasengan

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But I had some little hope for better and not some mary sue bs off-screen training

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Feels like I just saw Minecraft YTuber do some "Mining off camera" and he returns with netherite gear after wearing chainmail previously

mighty cape
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Spoilers

edgy bone
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how does one wear chainmail in vanilla without cheats

mighty cape
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Naruto is Boruto’s dad

high storm
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Or dungeon loot

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No?

edgy bone
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~~if youre far enough in the game to go dungeoning i feel like you should be able to make iron ~~

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didnt know it shows up as trades

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Does it not?

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I remember getting it like back in 1.7.2 from trade

edgy bone
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idk i havent played survival since 1.13

high storm
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Or maybe I am misremembering

edgy bone
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and they overhauled the villagers now

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idk what their trades are exactly

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It IS possible

edgy bone
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humu humu

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I may forget which day is today but I remember shit like this

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Damn

edgy bone
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also obligatory ew light mode

high storm
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That's google, is there a dark mode for it?

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Boo! Light mode here too!!!

edgy bone
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on pc there should be a dark mode button but i dont remember where

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i use firefox with a dark mode extension and ublock on phone now

high storm
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Sunlight is cool actually

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I don't mind light mode nearly as much as I used to

edgy bone
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yes but that's not sunlight it's artifical light

high storm
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Dark mode is not anyhow superior anyways

edgy bone
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i love how they feel the need to mention it's set in brazil

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edgy bone
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average manga reader living in brazil won't spend money to read it

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Lol

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@edgy bone I remember seeing this (from author of Usogui) and thinking "Damn, this must be popular in latin America"

edgy bone
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nice cover

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Usogui author is a real mfing chad, he draws super well and some chapters end this QR code saying "Here is my boxing match btw ^_^"

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wtf minecraft

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50 year old man btw

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crazy

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bro colored his hair

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good haircut tho, the puffy sides counteract the male balding pattern 🔥

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Nope

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asians do be aging slower tho 🤔

high storm
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Oh that's just him starting to grey out

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I know cus my 18 year old friend has the same issue lmao

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ohh ic

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(i dont see)

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bro is gonna live to 120 u can see it

high storm
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Another Araki vampire type

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araki was the jojo author ye?

edgy bone
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i have no idea what yall are looking at

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i dont see any baldness or gray hair

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edgy bone
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my point stands

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grey beard hair

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the hairstyle covers the male baldness pattern tho

edgy bone
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why are you zooming in on an image that much

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cuz ur blind and u asked

edgy bone
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you noticed it without zooming in?

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oh he's 46

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edgy bone
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nice biopunk

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IRL minmaxer wtf

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It's just a torture device

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zamn

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I really fuck with Usogui (yeah my pfp)

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I really should either re-read it or read his other mangas

tired robin
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Need some new anime recommendations man I am so bored watched big 3 watched blue lock, demon slayer everything something underrated anyone ?

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tired robin
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Pretty much no flaws besides slow start

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Imo

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Like 1 seemingly random word being foreshadowing for 200+ chapters ahead and doesn't feel like an asspull? I kneel

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tired robin
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pop team epic

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tired robin
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Land of the Lustrous

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Hellsign Ultimate

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tired robin
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it's about a rock who wants to be a different rock

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tired robin
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I will give it a try

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: D

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kokoro connect (it has the girl who said the line)

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tired robin
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Some nimrod suggested school days to me and I am scard for life

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💀💀💀

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Took me two ep to understand whole plot line and lead of the story

high storm
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@tired robin heard of Link Click?

tired robin
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Will I be bullied if I say no ?

high storm
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No you won't

tired robin
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Huh so no

high storm
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You are clearly a newfag to all of this

tired robin
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That clear huh

high storm
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If you like detective/thriller with time travel give it a try

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tidal shore
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well, if kokoro connect got u confused, link click will get u even more confused

tired robin
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Well watched Tokyo revengers I liked that so won’t be harm to give it a try

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I never was confused watching it at any point

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high storm
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Besides season 2 is out

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So whatever

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also time travel always got me kinda huhhhh what about the implications and parallel universes and

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tired robin
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Agree with that

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They explore into that

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honestly

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I hate time travel as a plot device

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not even steins;gate made me stomach it

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ohhh have you watched Magi? @tired robin

tired robin
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I like more of Tokyo revengers and wind breaker vibe

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The worst time travel I've ever seen is prolly Tokyo Revengers

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Re:zero 2nd least favourite

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tidal shore
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I need to make a fantasy anime tier list

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the good ones are so scarce

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Stein's gate, Summertime rendering, Link click, all sooo good

tired robin
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Also emotional, Violet Evergarden

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Watched it with my mom, cried both

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tired robin
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As we speaking

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icic

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I think it's like good but not amazing

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Some real good moments are present though

tired robin
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Is Tokyo ghoul getting remake ?

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I would hope so?

tired robin
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Man I hope they stick to the manga

high storm
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Same

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Anniversary is in September so we hope until then

tired robin
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Is it me or everyone forgot about boruto ?

high storm
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It's ass, we talked about it 1 hour ago

tired robin
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Got it cool feels good to have someone who shares same opinion

high storm
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Boruto fans are legit paid bots in my eyes dawg

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Like suuuuure

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Ofc someone likes it that much, uhum

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sure

next crescent
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You sound like one person we used to have here who'd dunk on anyone who liked isekai anime lol

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There's people who would like it that much, especially probably younger people

high storm
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Children should not be able to leave comments low-key ¯⁠\⁠_⁠༼⁠ᴼ⁠ل͜⁠ᴼ⁠༽⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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I am not gonna take anyone named "borutoispeakfiction" seriously

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That even sounds like irony/troll

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I mean yeah that does LOL

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But there's 8-10 year olds who would be able to make accounts and spell

edgy bone
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idk why you bother reading the comments on that app

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every time i looked at them was like this series peak everything else trash

high storm
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I don't take them as sincere, literally any other place on internet dogs on boruto

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Deservingly so imo

tired robin
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Worse than boruto fans are mha. I have a friend who really thinks all might can defeat goku

high storm
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Power scalers are just funny people overall

tired robin
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True

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Literally "My dad could beat your dad!" For 20 year old weebs

tired robin
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😂😂

high storm
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Some debates are funny tho purely off the energy people give off

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I used to watch some Naruto ones

tired robin
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I was a Naruto one ngl

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But I am done with that shit

high storm
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And the Kakuzu winning against Pain with "Sheer durability" was the laugh of the town in the community for months

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tired robin
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My laugh was when I saw Sakura and her dumbness. Everything an ep surrounded her i skipped

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Quite savage

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💀😭

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nyaa.si
search: naruto sakuraless cut.mov (128GB) 🧲

tired robin
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Nope I am good have a little sanity left in me

mighty cape
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Im sorry I just realized this

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What exactly led to this conclusion

edgy bone
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read here

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edgy bone
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the themes and writing style is pure shonen

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not really

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mecha stories are usually more down to earth and political

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from what ive seen

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Piloting a robot = mecha

edgy bone
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granted ive not seen much mecha

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edgy bone
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refer to my earlier comments about isekai and shonen then

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that doesnt really tell you anything about the writing it's just a gimmick

mighty cape
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Same with Transformers

edgy bone
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it's like saying there's swords genre anime

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edgy bone
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cuz they fight with swords

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but functionally funny

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i always thought aot is just spiderman teenagers too

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Lol

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because of the manuever gear

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aot is tiny mechas lol

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rancid ledge
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naruto is basically whos the strongest shinobi

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HAHAHA KIDDING

high storm
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True!

rancid ledge
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when luffy says "im gonna be the king of pirates", it sounds like pinocchio says he wants to be a real boy

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im not kidding, it just sounds like it

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yeah luffy is kind of an idiot

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80iq individual (even tho I don't believe in iq)

rancid ledge
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bros a fucking wimp

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but

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he gets strong

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and kinda just punches through everything

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ultra instinct looking ahh form

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blackbeard is like the exact opposite of him

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im talking about the mastered one

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just wait till deku gets a form where his hair goes all white

mighty cape
# edgy bone granted ive not seen much mecha

thing is.... Gurren Lagann has drawn inspiratation from a number of anime that precde it that do just that as well as known example. Gundam, Getter Robo, and GaoGaiGar are historically very popular examples that predate this.

Still mecha.

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just wait

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just wait.

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edgy bone
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all i will say is lagann is a shonen with a mecha skin

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im not the first person to say this either im surprised no one here has heard it before

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He'd complain and degrade anyone who even remotely liked isekai and would make pointless arguments about it as if people can't just enjoy mindless shows

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mighty cape
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Still mecha tho.

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He spent an hour arguing with Jake and I about why silent voice is a terrible movie

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nvm he's dead to me.

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And how it's just "kid gets bullied wahh"

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And nothing more

edgy bone
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can't really comment without watching

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how could anyone say silent voice is terrible.

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disgusting.

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mighty cape
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Understood, but still mecha. I'll leave it at that.

edgy bone
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it just feels dumb to me to have some genres have a thematic meaning and others be just a gimmick that has nothing to do with the writing style

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that's not a genre at that point

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rancid ledge
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man i needa finish gundam 79

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mighty cape
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LOOK AT THIS

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😂

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it's that outlandish

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rancid ledge
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okay i thought it was shining finger

next crescent
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And completely ignored or tried trolling us for talking about the other 90% of the movie's themes

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because cyyu is also a gundam fan and he yelled out shining gundam

mighty cape
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thing is, there are subgenres within mecha anime

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not necesarily a 'one size fits all' formula

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next crescent
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But Jake got back at him later by explaining how his favorite anime is technically an isekai because the mcs go to a different world via their psyches kekw

mighty cape
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a variety of flavors can go into the mix

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next crescent
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So we didn't really know he'd be like that for everything and then go off and call Jake terrible shit later on

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Simply because he likes isekai

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frank musk
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If theres one positive thing about that guy, he definitely made this chat active once he opened his mouth thats for sure E_pepelol

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Aaaaaaah

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@topaz linden make your presence known, this @high storm peasant doesn't know who his liege is

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tired robin
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Hehe

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Gantz huh

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i've read that

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like 1/3rd of it

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all i remember is that i didn't really enjoy it

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also

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that the author invented a technique for drawing something nsfw that's now popular

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it was written in one of the credits pages

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Light bars?

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no

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the lines that indicate motion

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or something like that

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Lol

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im not sure if it was the lines or drawing afterimages

edgy bone
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why is that nsfw

tidal shore
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well, he used it for nsfw when he was making his own independent works

rancid ledge
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never am i reading gantz

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never again...

tidal shore
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what's the problem?

rancid ledge
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nothing. Tadano_Sweat

edgy bone
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oh boi

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WTFFF

edgy bone
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the funniest part to me is

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i dont really have as much of an issue with this than i did the initial nika reveal

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and i'd argue most of the stuff people complaining about this reveal could be applied to the nika reveal too

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ig luffy just gets judged by different standards cuz protag status

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I think it's sick personally

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dunno haven't watched

edgy bone
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i like it for the most part ,only complaints i have are basically the same as i had with nika

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Art of Maetel (whoever that is)

edgy bone
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altho the implications for the future storyline kinda make me go hmmgee

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like her power now is busted

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can she copy anything?

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she's basically neo from the matrix at that point

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just get the right mindset and youre omnipotent

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edgy bone
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isn't that a very old tale

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Night on the Galactic Railroad (銀河鉄道の夜, Ginga Tetsudō no Yoru), sometimes translated as Milky Way Railroad, Night Train to the Stars or Fantasy Railroad in the Stars, is a classic Japanese fantasy novel by Kenji Miyazawa written around 1927. The nine-chapter novel was posthumously published by Bunpodō (文圃堂) in 1934 as part of Complete Works of K...

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act age had a whole arc on this play

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honestly best art in the series

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whos maetel

edgy bone
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the character

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another one with same face syndrome

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not that I'm complaining lol

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ok yea im complaining

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actually i am complaining so hard rn

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ooohhhh im complaining

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Nyooo

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Facts and logic destroyed me

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Or smth

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problem for me is I can't use this as a reliable reference cuz he only does 1 face

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I love the way he draws faces tho

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but it gets stale by the 5th image

edgy bone
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i dont see why that's an issue

high storm
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Subscribed on Instagram and just sometimes get a nice pic in my feed, ain't complaining

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# edgy bone i dont see why that's an issue

well, if I find it boring it's an issue, cuz I want to see the artist try do different faces, expressions, emotions, see how they choose to accentuate which facial features, muscles, bones, etc

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Fuck that I love 1 trick ponies

edgy bone
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you can still see it from 1 picture

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work with what you got

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😤

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it's not there

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what im looking for is not there

edgy bone
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the nonexistence is still something

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holy fuck it's 19:50

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Bless this artist

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mannn

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UOOHHHHHHH

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There is like several hundreds

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Not even joking

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Such a great acc

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God I wish I was this talented

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Or like this guy and draw some kickass stuff

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Does this really resemblance Stark? Not really
Is it awesome? Sure is

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he's so real for this

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Drawing JJK, Tokyo ghoul, Frieren, Choujin X etc in this style makes you awesome in my eyes

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choujin x 💀

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Can't tell me this Frieren fanart doesn't look awesome dawg

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yea it's pretty cool

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Easily best one tho

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????

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what does it mena

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mean

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JJK meme

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especially in the left one kekw

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the style is cool though yeah

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If Un-ironically some of the best JJK fanarts I've ever seen too

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oooo

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idk why but the first one gives me berserk vibes and i like it

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Yeah I vibe with this artist's style a lot

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Weird how little comments posts get

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yee

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finally, my instagram account which I made to like the pewdiepie wedding post will finally become useful

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fuck

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i forgot password

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and email

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which email did i use

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wehatever i will just bookmark...

mighty cape
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what the fuck

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this is what Rudi's parents should've done

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Sakura kun from wind breaker is so cute

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edgy bone
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fear and hunger mentioned

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Dungeon meshi slight spoilers

edgy bone
tidal shore
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ain't no way 💀

high storm
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Fanarts like this got me to watch the show

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So spoilers good actually!?
(No, they still are not)

edgy bone
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i generally dont really mind spoilers unless the narrative is one of those things where it's constructed around the reveal itself and knowing about it beforehand changes your perspective on things

high storm
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Yeah, fanarts and panels looked sick so I decided to check it out but even still plot was great imo

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Even knowing the whole dragon shtick I was surprised

edgy bone
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I still need to read it so this means nothing to me

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ionic schooner
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She is

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DEER WOMAN

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It gives me late night tv vibes

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huhhh

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Haven't we talked about it already? Shit is gonna be second coming of nichijou

tidal shore
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ok yea I remember

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I remember reading this last year

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or maybe evenm before

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probably 2 years ago

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wtffff

high storm
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Was it funny?

tidal shore
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I'm such a manga buff

tidal shore
high storm
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Lmfao

high storm
tidal shore
high storm
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Dropped monogatari 1 episode in trying to read flashing text is annoying

tidal shore
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yeah see? this is how you know someone's opinion is wrong 🗣️ 🔥 💯

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damn i had to edit it, now it doesn't have the same punch

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but yk, it's probably a decent comedy, just not what I was looking for at the time

high storm
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Hahahaha

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I am just tryna start shi am bored

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Uuuuh I am gonna read "Blame!" Or whatever was that one manga dude in here recommended

tidal shore
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I read that one

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it was pretty epic

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I understood a total of nothing in it though

tidal shore
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im not eveb joking, my team had 35% possession

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35%

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you know that's low, right?

ionic schooner
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whys it remind me of oppenheimer

high storm
high storm
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Wowza, that's pretty cool

ionic schooner
#

whos to Blame!

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?

high storm
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🙄

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Didn't even read the synopsis but by chapter 7 I think the basic gist of story is that in far dystopian future a great plague killed many people and we ran into living in many iron concrete cages and by the time plague went down everyone was already used to building and from there due to low population post apocalypsis we made "synthetic life" how they call and since main character is trying to find the before plague sample I assume the said illness affects fertility rate or smth

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Am I on the right track?

ionic schooner
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thought you were reading a manga not real life

high storm
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If that's the case

ionic schooner
#

i love ghostrunner

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i didnt get the first movie but the 2nd one with ryan gosling was cool

high storm
#

Ghostrunner

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The GAME

ionic schooner
#

WAIT

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I THOUGHT YOU MEANT BLADERUNNER

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😭😭😭

edgy bone
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coco...

ionic schooner
#

RUNNER THIS RUNNER THAT

edgy bone
#

how about you runner some bitches

ionic schooner
#

EDGERUNNERS BLADERUNNER GHOSTRUNNER

ionic schooner
high storm
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Ghostrunner is a great game

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10/10

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Recommend heavily, made me feel incredibly cool

ionic schooner
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i havent played but i saw its cool

edgy bone
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i played it for a bit

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the concept is really cool but im not really into games where dying a lot is part of the gameplay

high storm
edgy bone
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the repetitivity gets to me

high storm
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I fuck with dying as much as it gets since respawn is instant

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I only hate backtracking

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Despise that shit

ionic schooner
high storm
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When I think about it I actually played lots of games where dying is frequent

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Sekiro, meat boy, both hotline miami games

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Sekiro is easy baby shit tbh, amazing game tho 9.5/10

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Modded terraria is harder than Sekiro even without all the cheesy strats

tidal shore
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Poland lost 3:1 not even surprised

tidal shore
shadow knot
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I beaten both hotline miami games but I died so many times

tidal shore
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also love how there's so little dialogue in Blame

tidal shore
high storm
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I think it was level 11 or smth I died so fucking many times there on B side

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Prolly in hundreds

rustic pivot
rustic pivot
ionic schooner
chilly lynx
craggy mango
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Dungeon Meshi, Konosuba, and Yuru Camp is finished

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I only have The Boys to watch now

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Oh i remember Mushoku Tensei next episode is about to get canceled by people in twitter

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Nokotan seems to be the only interesting series to watch next season

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Wait, Giji Harem and some dc villain isekai (i cant type it because they banned the word) are also next season

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I thought they'll be on fall

ionic schooner
topaz linden
topaz linden
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Nah man

ionic schooner
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with another driver

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and he meets the old guy

topaz linden
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I feel like it was a nice, complete package as is

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Still mad that the recap messed with the perfect ending it had

ionic schooner
ionic schooner
shadow sleet
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either this season's konosuba was really good or im finally enjoying their comedy

ionic schooner
#

KONOSUBA

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SEASON 3

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???

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I GOTTA WATCH THIS

shadow sleet
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yeah just ended a couple of days ago

tidal shore
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bro named genshin talk

ionic schooner
craggy mango
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Give a chance to Giji Harem

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Its all about Hayamin flexing her va skill

frank musk
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Ive read the manga

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And yes, this anime is gonna be hayami just flexing her range

frank musk
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Dungeon meshi spoilers, id love to have this on my shelf ngl

mighty cape
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Pollo

edgy bone
#

marco?

long peak
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God I love himmel

edgy bone
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are you watching frieren

long peak
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I'm trying to finish it since I stopped during the mage trials

edgy bone
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himmel still shows up after that point?

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i dont remember

long peak
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I'm currently in the middle of the mage trials

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But I imagine he does

edgy bone
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i meant like

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what prompted you to talk about him

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i dont remember him being mentioned in that arc

long peak
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His reason for being a hero

next crescent
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fat chimken

long peak
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Eat the chimken

edgy bone
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would

chilly lynx
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UwU

outer scaffold
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wUw

long peak
#

Frieren vs. ||Frieren|| was amazing

topaz linden
outer scaffold
long peak
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Himmel FeelsWeakMan

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He's so awesome

high storm
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Wow you like him a lot

edgy bone
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i didnt care much for him ngl

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there were like a couple moments

next crescent
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I like fern

high storm
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I like stark and the priest guy that joins them briefly

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They don't behave like damn robots at least

edgy bone
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priest was the best part about the story

long peak
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He's such a cool guy

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He'd be the best character in the show if Frieren wasn't there, but they're tied in my mind

long peak
edgy bone
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hes extremely generic

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idk what you want from me

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there were like

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a couple quotes i liked

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that's about it

long peak
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I think you might have missed a lot then

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Or just didn't finish

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Even then I dunno

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He's pretty far from generic

high storm
long peak
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Not at all

edgy bone
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it is

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i know what the point is

long peak
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You completely missed his whole point then

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Wow

edgy bone
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doesn't mean i have to be into it

high storm
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I've read the manga and nah he literally is the cookie cutter good guy except maybe his joke with posing and ||hero sword rejecting him||

long peak
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He literally is not

edgy bone
long peak
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Do you not have reading comprehension

edgy bone
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you probably have different standards then

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which is fine

long peak
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My standards are that he is a beautifully written character

high storm
#

I do and I don't hate anyone in Frieren really I just don't like anyone that much

long peak
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He's way more than what you say he is

high storm
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He is like a protagonist of any old school JRPG ever

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Not a bad thing per say

long peak
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On the surface level, yes

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But as a character, no

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He's more than that

high storm
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I would say he is very basic and Frieren as a animanga really fucked up making Frieren cry over him in first episode

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It would hit much harder if it was say 100+ chapters into

long peak
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She's not emotionless

high storm
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She is 99.9% of the time

long peak
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She absolutely is not

high storm
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That's my biggest gripe with Frieren as whole

long peak
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See now I'm starting to think you really don't have reading comprehension

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You just didn't pay attention

high storm
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Everyone is just always so calm collected and normal it's not something I enjoy personally

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It feels alienating because that's not how people actually behave in situations like they are in

long peak
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Well yeah she's an elf

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We don't have experiences with living for thousands of years

high storm
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She might as well be a robot who "tries to understand human emotion" and it would be near the same

long peak
#

You're missing the point by a mile holy shit

high storm
#

I don't like enjoy the "journey" part that much so I don't like Frieren

long peak
#

Absolutely insane yet again

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She's a fantastic character

high storm
#

It's 8/10 and has immaculate world building but I really don't like any character in particular

long peak
#

There's almost no world building, the world is generic as hell

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You got the whole thing backwards

high storm
long peak
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It's useless trying to reason with you

high storm
edgy bone
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he's just a human moral compass for frieren

long peak
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HE ISNT

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HE LITERALLY IS NOT

edgy bone
#

that's literally the point of every flashback he's shown in

high storm
#

He is, she never recognises him (yet at least) as someone she loves

edgy bone
#

frieren feels unsure about something

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flashbacks to first party

long peak
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It's useless trying to reason with you two

edgy bone
#

now she understands the feelings of the humans or what she's supposed to do or w/e

long peak
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It's like we didn't even watch the same show

edgy bone
#

again, im not against this

high storm
#

Yeah and first party was like leagues above current one tbh

edgy bone
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it just didnt do much for me

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it was okay

long peak
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It's in my top 3 of all time

high storm
long peak
#

The characters are what make the show

edgy bone
#

im not much of a character person in general

long peak
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But if you can't read past a surface level then I guess it makes sense

edgy bone
#

i mostly enjoy stories for the plot

long peak
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Well then that's probably why for you

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The characters are incredibly well written

high storm
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I don't like how EVERYONE is just always so calm robotic and composed that's horribly unrealistic and makes me unable to bond with characters

edgy bone
#

are you gonna explain your perspective or?

high storm
long peak
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No fucking way on ubel

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She's a good character but no way

high storm
#

Ubel is openly a psychopath while everyone else is just behaves like almost a psychopath

long peak
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That's just not true?

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We're not watching the same show

high storm
#

Psycho as in absence of compassion and showings of emotions

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Not like "Buahahaha I am going to kill everyone"

long peak
#

They show plenty of compassion and emotion

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I don't know where you're getting this

#

They show time and time again that they have these things

high storm
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Way too little for any normal reasonable person irl

long peak
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In fact, it's one of the core components of the show

high storm
long peak
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They're consistently kind and compassionate whenever they stop by a place

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Okay yeah you're straight up not watching the same show

high storm
long peak
#

There's no point in arguing

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NO

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it's not even about himmel

high storm
long peak
#

I mean your point of about them being compassionate

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Obviously he's the final goal

high storm
#

Frieren doesn't just do good things because she is kind or good but because that's what Himmel would do and it gets boring after a while

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Before meeting him she literally was winning the "idgaf" war

long peak
#

But the flashbacks to the old party are when Frieren learned about this sort of stuff or experienced it initially, without the feelings and grief that she's gone through, and how she's learned since then

long peak
high storm
long peak
#

Yeah I agree

high storm
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Too bad he is dead 1st fucking episode lmao

long peak
#

Well yeah that's the whole point

edgy bone
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sorry golden im also playing mh and only checking on here on occassion ping me if you want me to comment on anything

long peak
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It's about the fleeting aspects of life

edgy bone
#

i can't read the whole convo rn

long peak
#

It's fine

#

I have to sleep soon

high storm
long peak
#

Frieren only realized these things that she shared with the party upon their deaths

high storm
#

Frieren only went to kill demon lord because Himmel asked her too

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She is a proxy for his kindness

long peak
#

That's not true

high storm
#

That's boring

long peak
#

Back when her family was killed, she got that ambition from flomme

high storm
long peak
#

It wasn't

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I haven't read the manga

edgy bone
high storm
# long peak It wasn't

He literally came up to Frieren ans asked her to join his fight and she just goes "Naaaah"

long peak
#

It contradicts because Frieren doesn't just learn from a flashback

edgy bone
#

the flashbacks give her the push she needs to realise w/e message the episode is trying to tell

long peak
#

It's an explanation to the viewer of a situation she faced with the old party

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Not at all

edgy bone
#

same difference

high storm
long peak
#

No???

edgy bone
#

youre arguing over semantics

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yes

long peak
#

It's not semantics its the writing

edgy bone
#

it's the same concept i was trying to get at

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you just phrased it differently

long peak
#

Its not at all

edgy bone
#

it is

long peak
#

It's completely different

edgy bone
#

what's the difference

long peak
#

The flashbacks aren't the thing that push her to make a decision

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She's already learned this from her time with himmel and the others

edgy bone
#

yes

high storm
#

In the manga she literally ||time travels to old party and like 😐 Fern and Stark? Yeah whatever I just don't wanna cause paradoxes"||

edgy bone
#

i dont see where the disagreement is

high storm
#

Himmel is her role model

long peak
#

It's that you're missing the point on why things are written as they are and boiling it down to "because we see a thing as she makes the decision, that's why she does it"

long peak
high storm
#

I don't like people who are clearly doing something after a role model

long peak
#

It's because of the huge impact that he made on her life

edgy bone
#

that's what i said

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._.

long peak
#

That's not what you said

high storm
#

I dislike such both in fiction and irl, I want her to figure out things on her own without saying the damn "That's what Himmel would do"

edgy bone
#

she has himel as the role model goody 2 shoes guy

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and uses her experiences with him and the party to help her understand how to act in the present

high storm
#

I want Frieren to stop being a literal guide what to do in situation

long peak
high storm
#

He needs to be a part of decision, not the whole decision

edgy bone
#

yes

long peak
#

That's not his character

edgy bone
#

thats the point of a summary

#

to boil down

#

im not gonna do a full character analysis of every minute detail

long peak
#

On the surface he is this, but if you actually listen to what he says, he isn't

edgy bone
#

it's irrelevant to the greater point

high storm
long peak
#

it's not a minute detail to call him a fleshed out character

#

Because he is

high storm
#

She was is still is completely clueless to his infatuation

long peak
edgy bone
#

i didnt say he's not fleshed out

#

i say he's generic and i dont really care for his character personally

long peak
#

But reducing him to a goody two shoes is incorrect

#

He's not even generic

edgy bone
#

again, semantics

#

i dont want to argue over wordplay

long peak
#

it's really not

#

It's not word play

meager kernel
#

Himmel E_OMEGARAZOR

high storm
#

He is the JRPG good guy who has like 3 things to differentiate him from them

long peak
#

You're reducing his character to something that is not

outer scaffold
#

The point is that the whole series is bad and Ex-Arm is good.

long peak
#

Okay finally something I can agree with

#

Thank you flame

high storm
long peak
#

Ex arm is peak

high storm
#

That's undisputed

outer scaffold
high storm
edgy bone
outer scaffold
high storm
#

Juca not getting the joke prolly

edgy bone
#

it's flame

#

i dont trust it's sarcasm coming from him

high storm
#

Lol

long peak
#

Himmel as a character is kind and compassionate towards others, even when his own party feels otherwise

goes through life trying to make small impactful moments on a personal level, instead of always putting his mission in the fire front

Personally aims to make a world that can have Frieren remember him and the party after they're gone so she won't forget them

He embodies one of the central themes of "living through remembering" as is stated plenty of times

meager kernel
#

Golden are you going to finish

#

oh

outer scaffold
long peak
#

He's the driving force behind that theme infact

high storm
#

Alright "living through memories" is kinda unique I will give you that

long peak
#

Living through memories is one of the core themes of the show

#

It's the whole reason why himmel posed for statues

edgy bone
high storm
#

I still feel like he is just the embodiment of what author wants to portray as good things

#

He is good guy for the sake of being a good guy

edgy bone
long peak
high storm
long peak
#

Well obviously there's more behind it

high storm
#

He literally doesn't miss too

long peak
#

But being a good person is its own reward

high storm
#

Not once his decision had negative consequences I think

meager kernel
#

doesn't he just have a good moral compass? idk if that makes him shallow

long peak
#

It's not the only thing about him

outer scaffold
high storm
#

That's it

long peak
#

He does have a good moral compass

#

That's not it

meager kernel
#

The man just wants peace

high storm
#

If evil characters are shallow for "Doing evil for the sake of evil" so are the good guys for doing good because that's what's right and good

outer scaffold
#

Can we just fucking agree that both of you, golden and kvit, have different opinions of himmel and move on?

long peak
#

Again, his whole thing is living on through memories, he helps these people and towns and villages because he wants to live on through memories as a person who went out of his way to help individuals and towns instead of rushing to kill the demon king

high storm
long peak
#

His definition of a hero is more than someone that did a good thing

high storm
#

It's not like I hate the characters I just don't agree with Golden

meager kernel
#

agree to disagree then guys

#

I personally agree with golden but I do see where kvit is coming from

long peak
#

I just think it's reductive and missing the point to call him generic

high storm
#

No, demon girl don't count

#

They killed her same episode

long peak
#

Demon girl absolutely does count

#

It was a time that himmels kindness was shown to be objectively the wrong thing

outer scaffold
high storm
#

No I want something that Himmel has done that left NEGATIVE impact you get me?

#

Like fucked up Frieren's journey

outer scaffold
long peak
#

I mean thats fair

#

Objectively he has been in the right a majority of the time

high storm
#

Yeah I don't like that :/

long peak
#

But there's plenty of story to give him opportunities to mess up more

high storm
#

I sure would want to see that

long peak
#

But I don't feel like that should be the main focus

high storm
#

Haven't happened so far

outer scaffold
outer scaffold
high storm
long peak
#

So I get where you're coming from now

high storm
#

Does she see him as just moral idol or truly a companion

long peak
#

It's just different than what I got from it before

#

I mean that's fair

high storm
#

I don't hate Himmel he is a golden retriever (lol kinda a pun) but I don't think his portrayal is good

outer scaffold
high storm
#

I want something to challenge his views

outer scaffold
long peak
#

I can agree to that

outer scaffold
high storm
#

Also that was in strangely unnecessary arc, they told us like 1 important thing, which felt weird