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Bro artists complain about drawing hands like literally everyday
The worse part about it is that
No shit AI has problems lol
Drawing hands HARD
And it blows when people assume actual drawn art is AI when
The artist genuinely struggled with hands

I really don't give a shit about "AI or not"
People acting like we just replaced manufactures with machinery or some shit
If it’s a tool used to complement the human input, I don’t mind. Like the spider verse films.
Past that? I get iffy
Idc, get gud or scramble
Survival of the fittest
My ass ain't paying for commissions ever again after AI gets better
Shit's expensive as hell
AND takes a long time
Well kinda depends where you’re looking tbf. Been commissioning more skeb artists as of late with how low the yen has gotten.

Lmfao
That fucking sucks
I want my shit done NOW 🗣️🔥💯
Or they don't get my vision and draw smth else entirely
Fuckass artists like that exist after all
@mighty cape this is AI
A little tricky with that low res
sorry
about tghe last pic
I'm still not sure if it's AI or not, but it only exists on some suspicious chinese site, it was also uploaded to a pinterest account that mainly uploads AI
so it's like
hmmm
well pinterest, its either ai or stolen/repost
it's okay we have SauceNAO to back us up
it looks very similar to this guy's art tho https://inf.news/en/culture/2db7977d272d64fbecf7474fb622cdb2.html
maybe the model was trained on this
unless that's also AI
everytime i tried using saucenao it didnt help
but i saw some cool ai arts on twitter the other day
i couldnt even tell they were ai just by looking
for me it 's like
once they settle on an artstlye and start spamming it everywhere i get used to it and can spot it
but when they change the artstyle i can't really tell at ifrst
yeah this is why u gotta watch for common characteristics across all of AI generated images
like
the smoothness of brush strokes
but it requires you to more closely inspect regular art for a while to understand
same author btw
Fucking sock with holes type fit
isnt it a different artist now
kishi only does the writing afaik
it used to be
Yeah Boruto looks like shit
artist +writer duo without kishi
then kishi started a new separate manga
the manga got axed
And reads pretty meh too tbh
then kishi was like hey actually i want back on boruto
then they fired the other writer lmao
The Minato One-shot he did a year ago proved he still can do good stuff surprisingly enough
oh he wrote that
For 10th anniversary of Naruto
shouldnt that be like
50 pages
¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I mean anime did start airing in 2004 no?
ig? but im not used to manga authors doing stuff for anime anniversaries
Oh it was actually 2002
They did like a global voting
Naruto99 and the winner gets a oneshot
yea but that's not the manga author
Minato won
that's shueisha
that poll was so wack
why was itachi's friend like top 3 or w/e
bro had like 5 chapters tops
Shisui is the goat bruh
The vote was just fans wanting to know more about this or that guy
how would voting help with that
I mean one shot was sick
Shueisha run a vote and the winner got a one shot made by kishimoto for 20th anniversary
ah that's how that worked
but why would shueisha do something for the anime anniversary
esp when the manga anniversary is this year
Maybe Kishimoto asked or smth, what does it matter ┐( ∵ )┌
just feels weird is all
Eh, maybe
art
2 pages of action lines instead of background
How is this shit monthly
Ofc they gave Boruto failing raijin with solo activation
Fucking LAME
casually dropping spoilers in a public server
It's fucking Boruto bro
Also it's a super minor spoiler, because that was like a given he gonna have it eventually
It's like being surprised Boruto gets a rasengan
But I had some little hope for better and not some mary sue bs off-screen training
Feels like I just saw Minecraft YTuber do some "Mining off camera" and he returns with netherite gear after wearing chainmail previously
Spoilers
how does one wear chainmail in vanilla without cheats
Naruto is Boruto’s dad
Trade?
Or dungeon loot
No?
~~if youre far enough in the game to go dungeoning i feel like you should be able to make iron ~~
didnt know it shows up as trades
idk i havent played survival since 1.13
Or maybe I am misremembering
It IS possible
humu humu
also obligatory ew light mode
on pc there should be a dark mode button but i dont remember where
i use firefox with a dark mode extension and ublock on phone now
yes but that's not sunlight it's artifical light
Dark mode is not anyhow superior anyways
i love how they feel the need to mention it's set in brazil
Sales secured in 1 country
average manga reader living in brazil won't spend money to read it
Lol
@edgy bone I remember seeing this (from author of Usogui) and thinking "Damn, this must be popular in latin America"
nice cover
Usogui author is a real mfing chad, he draws super well and some chapters end this QR code saying "Here is my boxing match btw ^_^"
wtf minecraft
50 year old man btw
crazy
bro colored his hair
good haircut tho, the puffy sides counteract the male balding pattern 🔥
Nope
yep, you can see his beard has white hair
asians do be aging slower tho 🤔
Oh that's just him starting to grey out
I know cus my 18 year old friend has the same issue lmao
He got WILD genetics yeah
Another Araki vampire type
araki was the jojo author ye?
my point stands
why are you zooming in on an image that much
cuz ur blind and u asked
you noticed it without zooming in?
oh he's 46
yes
Bro upgraded his art so much I hope he does live to 120
nice biopunk
IRL minmaxer wtf
It isn't
120th manga chapter vs 1st chapter
It's just a torture device
Nah it's like 1 vs 400+ chapter
zamn
I really fuck with Usogui (yeah my pfp)
I really should either re-read it or read his other mangas
Need some new anime recommendations man I am so bored watched big 3 watched blue lock, demon slayer everything something underrated anyone ?
Wow that's a newcomer if I ever saw one, watch Gurren Lagann
Well 😭😭😭 thanks.
what do u like about it
Story, characters, foreshadowing, art, mind games, the arcs they go through
Pretty much no flaws besides slow start
Imo
Like 1 seemingly random word being foreshadowing for 200+ chapters ahead and doesn't feel like an asspull? I kneel
heavenly delusions (sci fi), monogatari series (philosophical), baccano (fun psychopaths), ping pong the animation (bad name but it's good), haikyuu (shounen sports), saiki kusuo (comedy)
Also tension, better than any thriller
Haikyuu done and first two done
pop team epic
banger
Try Death parade
Man haikyuu is peak
Done
Land of the Lustrous
About ?
Hellsign Ultimate
it's about rocks
Huh context got it.
it's about a rock who wants to be a different rock
Samurai Champloo
: D
How about Drifters
kokoro connect (it has the girl who said the line)
Drifters Opening
"Gospel Of The Throttle 狂奔REMIX ver." by Minutes Til Midnight
bangerrrr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTRde0nVSPA @tired robin
From: Kokoro Connect: Episode 4
Inaba and Taichi share a "touching" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) secret...
Himeko Inaba is best girl.
GOAT - PRAISE INABA
The 60fps on this one turned out pretty well.
No Copyright Infringement Intended
Video and sound not owned by me
absolute peak peak peak 🗣️ 💯 🔥
Well this was confusing one to be honest
Fire
Took me two ep to understand whole plot line and lead of the story
@tired robin heard of Link Click?
Will I be bullied if I say no ?
No you won't
Huh so no
You are clearly a newfag to all of this
That clear huh
If you like detective/thriller with time travel give it a try
Yes, very
well, if kokoro connect got u confused, link click will get u even more confused
Well watched Tokyo revengers I liked that so won’t be harm to give it a try
I think it's pretty clear actually
🫡
I never was confused watching it at any point
end of season 1 got me like CLIFFHANGER? WHY????
Cliffhanger is not "confusing" that's cliffhanger lololo
Besides season 2 is out
So whatever
also time travel always got me kinda huhhhh what about the implications and parallel universes and
Ever seen summertime rendering?
Agree with that
They explore into that
nah
honestly
I hate time travel as a plot device
Time travel where parallel universes exist and are utilized
not even steins;gate made me stomach it
I LOVE TIME TRAVEL RAAAAH
ohhh have you watched Magi? @tired robin
I like more of Tokyo revengers and wind breaker vibe
The worst time travel I've ever seen is prolly Tokyo Revengers
Re:zero 2nd least favourite
On my list man
Stein's gate, Summertime rendering, Link click, all sooo good
Really i feel Tokyo revengers is quiet good
why re zero?
In a vacuum prolly yes
I need to give your time travel anime a try man
Just doesn't click with me that much tbh, very drawn out and has to be binged imo
Link click first episode also is quite emotional
Also emotional, Violet Evergarden
Watched it with my mom, cried both
have u watched past S1? I haven't but I heard the concept got expanded there
Watching the show right now
As we speaking
Yeah I am caught up on anime
icic
Is Tokyo ghoul getting remake ?
I would hope so?
Man I hope they stick to the manga
Is it me or everyone forgot about boruto ?
It's ass, we talked about it 1 hour ago
Got it cool feels good to have someone who shares same opinion
Boruto fans are legit paid bots in my eyes dawg
Like suuuuure
Ofc someone likes it that much, uhum
sure
You sound like one person we used to have here who'd dunk on anyone who liked isekai anime lol
There's people who would like it that much, especially probably younger people
Children should not be able to leave comments low-key ¯\_༼ᴼل͜ᴼ༽_/¯
I am not gonna take anyone named "borutoispeakfiction" seriously
That even sounds like irony/troll
I mean yeah that does LOL
But there's 8-10 year olds who would be able to make accounts and spell
idk why you bother reading the comments on that app
every time i looked at them was like this series peak everything else trash
Oh it's just for shits and giggles
I don't take them as sincere, literally any other place on internet dogs on boruto
Deservingly so imo
Babahhh the cringe
Worse than boruto fans are mha. I have a friend who really thinks all might can defeat goku
Power scalers are just funny people overall
True
Literally "My dad could beat your dad!" For 20 year old weebs
😂😂
Some debates are funny tho purely off the energy people give off
I used to watch some Naruto ones
And the Kakuzu winning against Pain with "Sheer durability" was the laugh of the town in the community for months
batmanruto HAHAHAHAAHH
me! me! that was me!
My laugh was when I saw Sakura and her dumbness. Everything an ep surrounded her i skipped
Quite savage
💀😭
Nope I am good have a little sanity left in me
read here
Honestly no idea what he means except maybe it's more so psychology and friendship
That's any mecha tho
the themes and writing style is pure shonen
not really
mecha stories are usually more down to earth and political
from what ive seen
Piloting a robot = mecha
granted ive not seen much mecha
Simple as
refer to my earlier comments about isekai and shonen then
that doesnt really tell you anything about the writing it's just a gimmick
It doesn’t even just stop at piloting a robot
Bubblegum crisis is mecha too
Same with Transformers
it's like saying there's swords genre anime
AoT is mecha with very fast suits
cuz they fight with swords
aot is just teenagers fighting giant nudists
Eren's FrEeDoM vs Yujiro freedom too 🗣️🔥💯
nah very different thing
but functionally funny
i always thought aot is just spiderman teenagers too
Lol
And one piece is about plundering the British since they are pirates then yes?
and finding the treasure
True!
when luffy says "im gonna be the king of pirates", it sounds like pinocchio says he wants to be a real boy
im not kidding, it just sounds like it
bros a fucking wimp
ultra instinct looking ahh form
blackbeard is like the exact opposite of him
im talking about the mastered one
just wait till deku gets a form where his hair goes all white
thing is.... Gurren Lagann has drawn inspiratation from a number of anime that precde it that do just that as well as known example. Gundam, Getter Robo, and GaoGaiGar are historically very popular examples that predate this.
Still mecha.
Ive never seen gaogaigar
No, someone else who got banned lol
well yeah it's still mecha, but from what I understand juca is describing how he's interpreting the mecha within gurren lagann
havent seen so can't comment
all i will say is lagann is a shonen with a mecha skin
im not the first person to say this either im surprised no one here has heard it before
is this who i think it is?
He'd complain and degrade anyone who even remotely liked isekai and would make pointless arguments about it as if people can't just enjoy mindless shows
Does his name start with c
well yeah, that does seem a little overboard (even tho I'd probably 90% agree with him)
me neither, but popular influences, and footage I've seen from it say as much.
Plus, we have G Gundam. Has its own goddamn "Super Mode" lol.
Still mecha tho.
He spent an hour arguing with Jake and I about why silent voice is a terrible movie
nvm he's dead to me.
again, it's mostly about the themes and writing style
can't really comment without watching
I have, and I disagree, these are not mutually exclusive
Understood, but still mecha. I'll leave it at that.
it just feels dumb to me to have some genres have a thematic meaning and others be just a gimmick that has nothing to do with the writing style
that's not a genre at that point
this one??
yep. I saw that as a kid. really fun.
man i needa finish gundam 79
toxic masculinity male encounters emotional vulnerability, his reaction is insane | Slop Live
like....
LOOK AT THIS
😂
it's that outlandish
He used a very ignorant and basic premise for his argument which didn't extend past the first 10 minutes of the movie lol
okay i thought it was shining finger
And completely ignored or tried trolling us for talking about the other 90% of the movie's themes
because cyyu is also a gundam fan and he yelled out shining gundam
thing is, there are subgenres within mecha anime
not necesarily a 'one size fits all' formula
i'd say this kinda behaviour is a sign of underlying personal issues, so I wouldn't pay the argument too much attention
But Jake got back at him later by explaining how his favorite anime is technically an isekai because the mcs go to a different world via their psyches 
a variety of flavors can go into the mix
That was our first ever interaction with him for the most part
wait tell me more, what anime is this
So we didn't really know he'd be like that for everything and then go off and call Jake terrible shit later on
Simply because he likes isekai
Ya liking it so far?
Who's Jake
If theres one positive thing about that guy, he definitely made this chat active once he opened his mouth thats for sure 
I forgot the name but the poster for it is like teens in a black space with some 3D cube without sides they're climbing on or smth
Jake, you know, the mod, got a long name, is called Jake, often seen here, the Jake
JakeFromStateFarm(insert a bunch of Chinese text here)
Aaaaaaah
@topaz linden make your presence known, this @high storm peasant doesn't know who his liege is
Oh definitely lmao
can't say I've heard of it
Look it be Gantz or smth lol
It’s something like I am shocked
Hehe
Gantz huh
i've read that
like 1/3rd of it
all i remember is that i didn't really enjoy it
also
that the author invented a technique for drawing something nsfw that's now popular
it was written in one of the credits pages
Light bars?
Lol
im not sure if it was the lines or drawing afterimages
why is that nsfw
well, he used it for nsfw when he was making his own independent works
what's the problem?
nothing. 
WTFFF
the funniest part to me is
i dont really have as much of an issue with this than i did the initial nika reveal
and i'd argue most of the stuff people complaining about this reveal could be applied to the nika reveal too
ig luffy just gets judged by different standards cuz protag status
I think it's sick personally
dunno haven't watched
i like it for the most part ,only complaints i have are basically the same as i had with nika
Art of Maetel (whoever that is)
altho the implications for the future storyline kinda make me go hmmgee
like her power now is busted
can she copy anything?
she's basically neo from the matrix at that point
just get the right mindset and youre omnipotent
Comments say it's from "Galaxy express 999", anyone heard of that?
isn't that a very old tale
Night on the Galactic Railroad (銀河鉄道の夜, Ginga Tetsudō no Yoru), sometimes translated as Milky Way Railroad, Night Train to the Stars or Fantasy Railroad in the Stars, is a classic Japanese fantasy novel by Kenji Miyazawa written around 1927. The nine-chapter novel was posthumously published by Bunpodō (文圃堂) in 1934 as part of Complete Works of K...
act age had a whole arc on this play
honestly best art in the series
the character
Yeah but the faces he draws are beautiful so what
problem for me is I can't use this as a reliable reference cuz he only does 1 face
I love the way he draws faces tho
but it gets stale by the 5th image
i dont see why that's an issue
Subscribed on Instagram and just sometimes get a nice pic in my feed, ain't complaining
well, if I find it boring it's an issue, cuz I want to see the artist try do different faces, expressions, emotions, see how they choose to accentuate which facial features, muscles, bones, etc
Fuck that I love 1 trick ponies
i literally can't
it's not there
what im looking for is not there
the nonexistence is still something
holy fuck it's 19:50
Bless this artist
mannn
So many variations of the fuckin hampter
There is like several hundreds
Not even joking
Such a great acc
God I wish I was this talented
Or like this guy and draw some kickass stuff
Does this really resemblance Stark? Not really
Is it awesome? Sure is
he's so real for this
Drawing JJK, Tokyo ghoul, Frieren, Choujin X etc in this style makes you awesome in my eyes
choujin x 💀
Can't tell me this Frieren fanart doesn't look awesome dawg
yea it's pretty cool
Easily best one tho
JJK meme
she looks like a titan
especially in the left one 
the style is cool though yeah
If Un-ironically some of the best JJK fanarts I've ever seen too
yee
finally, my instagram account which I made to like the pewdiepie wedding post will finally become useful
first artist I will follow is this one
fuck
i forgot password
and email
which email did i use
wehatever i will just bookmark...
“It’s not over yet Sukuna…”
Sakura kun from wind breaker is so cute
Brave of sacrifice, scared of hunger
ain't no way 💀
Fanarts like this got me to watch the show
So spoilers good actually!?
(No, they still are not)
i generally dont really mind spoilers unless the narrative is one of those things where it's constructed around the reveal itself and knowing about it beforehand changes your perspective on things
Yeah, fanarts and panels looked sick so I decided to check it out but even still plot was great imo
Even knowing the whole dragon shtick I was surprised
I still need to read it so this means nothing to me
Lols
Cod mw
reminder that the weird ass deer anime is airing next month, i have no idea wtf is going on but i will be there
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huhhh
Haven't we talked about it already? Shit is gonna be second coming of nichijou
ok yea I remember
I remember reading this last year
or maybe evenm before
probably 2 years ago
wtffff
Was it funny?
I'm such a manga buff
I dropped on chapter one, sorry
Lmfao
If you hate it it must be good then 🗣️🔥💯
that's not true, I cannot be wrong, anyone who likes Monogatari Series cannot be wrong
Dropped monogatari 1 episode in trying to read flashing text is annoying
yeah see? this is how you know someone's opinion is wrong 🗣️ 🔥 💯
damn i had to edit it, now it doesn't have the same punch
but yk, it's probably a decent comedy, just not what I was looking for at the time
Hahahaha
I am just tryna start shi am bored
Uuuuh I am gonna read "Blame!" Or whatever was that one manga dude in here recommended
also bored asf, watching Poland vs Austria and it's just Peak Slop
im not eveb joking, my team had 35% possession
35%
you know that's low, right?
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
whys it remind me of oppenheimer
Lols
Absence of dialogue is bit confusing but I am liking the first 3 chapters so far
Wowza, that's pretty cool
🙄
Didn't even read the synopsis but by chapter 7 I think the basic gist of story is that in far dystopian future a great plague killed many people and we ran into living in many iron concrete cages and by the time plague went down everyone was already used to building and from there due to low population post apocalypsis we made "synthetic life" how they call and since main character is trying to find the before plague sample I assume the said illness affects fertility rate or smth
Am I on the right track?
Kinda reminds me of Ghostrunner
If that's the case
i love ghostrunner

i didnt get the first movie but the 2nd one with ryan gosling was cool
coco...
RUNNER THIS RUNNER THAT
how about you runner some bitches
EDGERUNNERS BLADERUNNER GHOSTRUNNER
i havent played but i saw its cool
i played it for a bit
the concept is really cool but im not really into games where dying a lot is part of the gameplay
It's like hotline miami skeleton with with sick ass parkour on top
the repetitivity gets to me
I fuck with dying as much as it gets since respawn is instant
I only hate backtracking
Despise that shit

When I think about it I actually played lots of games where dying is frequent
Sekiro, meat boy, both hotline miami games
Sekiro is easy baby shit tbh, amazing game tho 9.5/10
Modded terraria is harder than Sekiro even without all the cheesy strats
Poland lost 3:1 not even surprised
yeah it was a big source of inspiration for me, at one point I'd just doodle some lookalike panels in my notebook
I beaten both hotline miami games but I died so many times
also love how there's so little dialogue in Blame
honestly no clue, it's been a while and back when I read this my brain was still 80 iq
I beaten B side too but man does the fucking boat level SUCK
I think it was level 11 or smth I died so fucking many times there on B side
Prolly in hundreds
don't Blame! anyone for ur own faults 
MY TEAM IS ASS
my team is gyatt
Dungeon Meshi, Konosuba, and Yuru Camp is finished
I only have The Boys to watch now
Oh i remember Mushoku Tensei next episode is about to get canceled by people in twitter
Nokotan seems to be the only interesting series to watch next season
Wait, Giji Harem and some dc villain isekai (i cant type it because they banned the word) are also next season
I thought they'll be on fall
Personally planning on watching Nokotan, Oshi no Ko S2 (gonna be the theater arc, really nice arc in the manga), Tower of God S2, and Monogatari Off & Monster.
Otherwise, yeah, looks like a slow season 🤔
imagine
odd taxi 2
Nah man
I feel like it was a nice, complete package as is
Still mad that the recap messed with the perfect ending it had
what was the ending tho😭
oh yeah i watched that
either this season's konosuba was really good or im finally enjoying their comedy
yeah just ended a couple of days ago
Me?
OnK is nice (manga reader since day 0) but lately im not down for some soap opera drama
Give a chance to Giji Harem
Its all about Hayamin flexing her va skill
Dungeon meshi spoilers, id love to have this on my shelf ngl
Pollo
marco?
God I love himmel
are you watching frieren
I'm trying to finish it since I stopped during the mage trials
i meant like
what prompted you to talk about him
i dont remember him being mentioned in that arc
His reason for being a hero
big chimken
fat chimken
Eat the chimken
would
wUw
Frieren vs. ||Frieren|| was amazing
I bet Frieren won
Nah, Frieren wins the battle, not Frieren
Wow you like him a lot
I like fern
I like stark and the priest guy that joins them briefly
They don't behave like damn robots at least
priest was the best part about the story
He's literally peak
He's such a cool guy
He'd be the best character in the show if Frieren wasn't there, but they're tied in my mind
Gigantic humongous L though
hes extremely generic
idk what you want from me
there were like
a couple quotes i liked
that's about it

I think you might have missed a lot then
Or just didn't finish
Even then I dunno
He's pretty far from generic
I think his whole point is being the generic good guy except a few jokes like posing no?
Not at all
doesn't mean i have to be into it
I've read the manga and nah he literally is the cookie cutter good guy except maybe his joke with posing and ||hero sword rejecting him||
He literally is not
i finished the anime and i didnt like it enough to read the manga
Do you not have reading comprehension
My standards are that he is a beautifully written character
I do and I don't hate anyone in Frieren really I just don't like anyone that much
He's way more than what you say he is
I would say he is very basic and Frieren as a animanga really fucked up making Frieren cry over him in first episode
It would hit much harder if it was say 100+ chapters into
She is 99.9% of the time
She absolutely is not
That's my biggest gripe with Frieren as whole
See now I'm starting to think you really don't have reading comprehension
You just didn't pay attention
Everyone is just always so calm collected and normal it's not something I enjoy personally
It feels alienating because that's not how people actually behave in situations like they are in
She might as well be a robot who "tries to understand human emotion" and it would be near the same
You're missing the point by a mile holy shit
I don't like enjoy the "journey" part that much so I don't like Frieren
It's 8/10 and has immaculate world building but I really don't like any character in particular
There's almost no world building, the world is generic as hell
You got the whole thing backwards
"That's what Himmel would do"
Shows basic human compassion
Do that 1000 times
It's useless trying to reason with you
Whaaaat, folk magic is my favourite thing they ever introduced
he's just a human moral compass for frieren
that's literally the point of every flashback he's shown in
He is, she never recognises him (yet at least) as someone she loves
It's useless trying to reason with you two
now she understands the feelings of the humans or what she's supposed to do or w/e
It's like we didn't even watch the same show
again, im not against this
Yeah and first party was like leagues above current one tbh
It's in my top 3 of all time
I like the drunk priest more than Fern
The characters are what make the show
im not much of a character person in general
But if you can't read past a surface level then I guess it makes sense
i mostly enjoy stories for the plot
I don't like how EVERYONE is just always so calm robotic and composed that's horribly unrealistic and makes me unable to bond with characters
are you gonna explain your perspective or?
Exceptions being Stark, priest dude and maybe Ubel
Ubel is openly a psychopath while everyone else is just behaves like almost a psychopath
Psycho as in absence of compassion and showings of emotions
Not like "Buahahaha I am going to kill everyone"
They show plenty of compassion and emotion
I don't know where you're getting this
They show time and time again that they have these things
Way too little for any normal reasonable person irl
In fact, it's one of the core components of the show
The literal expression on everyone's faces is 😐 90% of the time
They're consistently kind and compassionate whenever they stop by a place
Okay yeah you're straight up not watching the same show
Because that's what Himmel would do lmao
It is, on technicality, meeting him again is the point of the journey
Frieren doesn't just do good things because she is kind or good but because that's what Himmel would do and it gets boring after a while
Before meeting him she literally was winning the "idgaf" war
But the flashbacks to the old party are when Frieren learned about this sort of stuff or experienced it initially, without the feelings and grief that she's gone through, and how she's learned since then
That's because she had no one to care about since flomme
Yeah Frieren pretty clearly cares for him
Yeah I agree
Too bad he is dead 1st fucking episode lmao
Well yeah that's the whole point
sorry golden im also playing mh and only checking on here on occassion ping me if you want me to comment on anything
It's about the fleeting aspects of life
i can't read the whole convo rn
Yeah I don't like that part as much
Frieren only realized these things that she shared with the party upon their deaths
Yeah so? That's just how she tries to know what to do in this or that situation
Frieren only went to kill demon lord because Himmel asked her too
She is a proxy for his kindness
That's not true
That's boring
Back when her family was killed, she got that ambition from flomme
Have you heard of the South Hero? Idk if it was in anime
i dont see how that contradicts what we were saying tho
He literally came up to Frieren ans asked her to join his fight and she just goes "Naaaah"
It contradicts because Frieren doesn't just learn from a flashback
the flashbacks give her the push she needs to realise w/e message the episode is trying to tell
It's an explanation to the viewer of a situation she faced with the old party
Not at all
same difference
Frieren is proxy of "What Himmel would do" and takes out almost any agency or impact from her decisions
No???
It's not semantics its the writing
Its not at all
it is
It's completely different
what's the difference
The flashbacks aren't the thing that push her to make a decision
She's already learned this from her time with himmel and the others
yes
In the manga she literally ||time travels to old party and like 😐 Fern and Stark? Yeah whatever I just don't wanna cause paradoxes"||
i dont see where the disagreement is
Himmel is her role model
It's that you're missing the point on why things are written as they are and boiling it down to "because we see a thing as she makes the decision, that's why she does it"
That I agree with
I don't like people who are clearly doing something after a role model
It's because of the huge impact that he made on her life
That's not what you said
I dislike such both in fiction and irl, I want her to figure out things on her own without saying the damn "That's what Himmel would do"
she has himel as the role model goody 2 shoes guy
and uses her experiences with him and the party to help her understand how to act in the present
I want Frieren to stop being a literal guide what to do in situation
See, you're boiling it down
He needs to be a part of decision, not the whole decision
yes
That's not his character
thats the point of a summary
to boil down
im not gonna do a full character analysis of every minute detail
On the surface he is this, but if you actually listen to what he says, he isn't
it's irrelevant to the greater point
Frieren doesn't know or even tbh care about other parts
She was is still is completely clueless to his infatuation
She literally does
i didnt say he's not fleshed out
i say he's generic and i dont really care for his character personally
Himmel 
He is the JRPG good guy who has like 3 things to differentiate him from them
You're reducing his character to something that is not
The point is that the whole series is bad and Ex-Arm is good.
We don't talk about how 10/10 ex-arm is
Ex arm is peak
That's undisputed
Or any Ecchi series is better than Frieren. I stand by my decision. /j
Say, what makes Himmel NOT the generic guy except this 3 bullet points
Poses for statues
Has unanswered love interest
Rejected by the hero sword
dont put words in my mouth pls
Now that i think of it, what's the meaning of "don't put words in my mouth" for this context?
Juca not getting the joke prolly
Lol
Himmel as a character is kind and compassionate towards others, even when his own party feels otherwise
goes through life trying to make small impactful moments on a personal level, instead of always putting his mission in the fire front
Personally aims to make a world that can have Frieren remember him and the party after they're gone so she won't forget them
He embodies one of the central themes of "living through remembering" as is stated plenty of times
I am joking brother, it's literally so fucking obvious, i'm not as rigid as a piece of rough cloth (a joke in my country (feel shame to have explain this))
He's the driving force behind that theme infact
Alright "living through memories" is kinda unique I will give you that
Living through memories is one of the core themes of the show
It's the whole reason why himmel posed for statues
thats exactly what i meant with goody 2 shoes
I still feel like he is just the embodiment of what author wants to portray as good things
He is good guy for the sake of being a good guy
youve said a lot of things in the past that i thought were jokes that then turned out to be serious so i can't be sure anymore
Because it's the right thing to do
???? That's shallow as hell
Well obviously there's more behind it
He literally doesn't miss too
But being a good person is its own reward
Not once his decision had negative consequences I think
doesn't he just have a good moral compass? idk if that makes him shallow
It's not the only thing about him
Ok, just give me an example, i'm sorry if i make you misunderstand me
He does good because he is good
That's it
The man just wants peace
If evil characters are shallow for "Doing evil for the sake of evil" so are the good guys for doing good because that's what's right and good
Can we just fucking agree that both of you, golden and kvit, have different opinions of himmel and move on?
Again, his whole thing is living on through memories, he helps these people and towns and villages because he wants to live on through memories as a person who went out of his way to help individuals and towns instead of rushing to kill the demon king
I do like Frieren world and some characters while Golden seem to have quite a polar view while still liking the whole thing
His definition of a hero is more than someone that did a good thing
It's not like I hate the characters I just don't agree with Golden
agree to disagree then guys
I personally agree with golden but I do see where kvit is coming from
I just think it's reductive and missing the point to call him generic
I would appreciate the characters more if they were shown at least 1 flawed decision from old party
No, demon girl don't count
They killed her same episode
Demon girl absolutely does count
It was a time that himmels kindness was shown to be objectively the wrong thing
I have been on this channel for a long time (but not as long as kvit (maybe)), to know that kvit's taste for japan's stuff is different than others, idk about golden though, he isn't active on this channel as much as when i started active on this channel
No I want something that Himmel has done that left NEGATIVE impact you get me?
Like fucked up Frieren's journey
I'm not saying you hate himmel, i'm saying you have different opinions on himmel compared to golden
Yes, I don't think Frieren is second best thing since sliced bread so I just don't get where Golden is coming from
Yeah I don't like that :/
But there's plenty of story to give him opportunities to mess up more
I sure would want to see that
But I don't feel like that should be the main focus
Haven't happened so far
Maybe making frieren feels at a loss...?
That could count though
Yes, I want author to test Frieren's feelings
So I get where you're coming from now
Does she see him as just moral idol or truly a companion
I don't hate Himmel he is a golden retriever (lol kinda a pun) but I don't think his portrayal is good
I don't read or watch frieren, but i remembered from a post on social media that in the manga, frieren was in a dream and was about to marry himmel
Golden
I want something to challenge his views

I can agree to that
That was an illusion
That could still be used as a way to play her feelings...?
Also that was in strangely unnecessary arc, they told us like 1 important thing, which felt weird





