・anime

[mighty cape]

cowboy bebop so true

we love spike

[long peak]

I feel like there's a few more in there but yeah

My first tattoo is gonna be you're gonna carry that weight

[mighty cape]

horimiya is so good

i love the dub since cyyu does a great va for miyamura

[long peak]

You mean Alejandro

[hot notch]

WFM and MT are great picks

https://tenor.com/view/suletta-mercury-gwitch-tanuki-surprised-smile-gif-7088991570002194527

https://tenor.com/view/mushoku-tensei-eris-discovering-sea-excited-gif-23400274

[wicked urchin]

what's the best anime you guys would recommend to a person who knew nothing

[long peak]

Knew nothing about anime?

[wicked urchin]

yh s

ping me

or dm me

[long peak]

Probably Cowboy Bebop? Something with a more serious story

It really depends on the person

You gotta know them and their tastes to be able to show them their first anime

[wicked urchin]

true true

everyone just ping or dm me so i can read later btw im not that person

ik lots of anime

[mighty cape]

Shield hero

[topaz linden]

... why would a revenge anime that doesn't even make it through S1 before going off the rails be your rec for their first anime? 😅

[fair wedge]

Depends on what you think youll like

[topaz linden]

Imo, for a first anime, you want something that they will most likely at least "like". Ideally, you would then use what they like about those shows to make deeper/better/more niche recommendations of shows for them.

Personally, if it's a new person, I'd say starting with stuff with the broadest appeal would be best, then narrowing it down later based on what part of those shows they liked.

Example starter list:
Love is War: Broad appeal rom com that's generally regarded as a well done show, and can help them see what sort of comedy characters they like.
One Punch Man: Another high-budget series with lots of stopping points, and broad appeal. Can help them get a feel for tropes in the action genre as well.
Bocchi the Rock: Good meme-y introduction to the music genre, with lots of modern pop culture references non-anime fans can catch on.
Beastars: Good intro into mystery thrillers, and overall a good story.
My Hero Academia: First two seasons are legit good, and it's a good story-driven intro into tropes of the superpower genre.
Gundam: The Witch from Mercury: In addition to being new enough to not suffer from dated characters and visuals, this is just a legit good starting point to see if Mecha's their thing.
No Game No Life: Fun and visually appealing enough that even if they're lost, they can still enjoy what's going on. Also appeals to the gamer side of things.

Cyberpunk Edgerunners: Good branching off point into sci-fi esque animes like Ghost in the Shell and Psycho Pass.

[fair wedge]

My first anime was Blend S

Which is a decent start

[topaz linden]

Copy pasted from another server I'm in and tweaked it (since this exact topic came up there)

[long peak]

Ain't no way

[next crescent]

if not show then a movie i'd suggest is silent voice

[mighty cape]

i dont have good taste but if anything is the best anime, it depends on what that person likes or enjoys it

[next crescent]

since it's universal and doesn't really go into crazy territory with anything

[mighty cape]

my first was inuyasha

[fair wedge]

Kc were not trying to depress the new anime person just yet

[next crescent]

don't wanna weird the person out first

HEY

IT'S A GOOD FUCKING MOVIE

OKAY

[fair wedge]

I mean your not wrong but still lol

[next crescent]

then violet evergarden

[topaz linden]

Imo, starting then with a slice of life anime first would be better. If they like that kinda story, then I'd pitch that to em

[mighty cape]

slice of life is good

or a 90s anime

[fair wedge]

Yeah

[topaz linden]

Jumping straight into A Silent Voice is a big jump

[next crescent]

slice of life is good but like someone said earlier, it's better to know the person and their tastes first

[mighty cape]

i think i started off with romance anime

[fair wedge]

I did too

[next crescent]

but i feel like a ton of people like stuff like both of those

but i wouldn't go and give someone like

[mighty cape]

also i watched higurashi and corpse party in middle school

[fair wedge]

Agreed

[next crescent]

"generic" anime where everything is magic timey wimey bullshit with sister complexes, ecchi, very japan-centric humor, etc

[fair wedge]

Ahem hs dxd has entered the chat

[mighty cape]

is hs dxd good??

[fair wedge]

Yes and no lol

[mighty cape]

i was about to say is highschool of the dead next

[fair wedge]

That one really is up to personal taste

[next crescent]

oh i forgot high school of the dead existed

[fair wedge]

Cause it swings hard right into fan service

[next crescent]

i watched like 4-5 episodes and got extremely bored

so i stopped

[fair wedge]

So if your not into that then no you really wouldnt like it

Story itself is a 5 or 6 out of 10

[topaz linden]

Start em right in the deep end of the cultural waters
https://youtu.be/ymP81hBZni4?si=5ioU_nBew96W78PI

[next crescent]

OKAY BUT THIS IS CLASSIC

[mighty cape]

hey i watched kill la kill too

[fair wedge]

I have yet to watch it

[mighty cape]

its so good

mushoku tensei?

IDK IF I SHOULD

[fair wedge]

If you want a good all round anime do The Kings Avatar

Its a fucking masterpiece

[mighty cape]

CUZ I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS ECCHI IN THERE

[next crescent]

good if you can look past the like 7 instances of nonos

for mushoku tensei

[topaz linden]

Dropped kill la kill 2ish episodes in. I just can't do Studio Trigger's style of storytelling

[mighty cape]

as for eminence of shadow?

[topaz linden]

Love their animation tho

[mighty cape]

its a straight up no

just no

cant do it

wont do it

[fair wedge]

If your into cringe and edge lord stuff go for it

[mighty cape]

mot ever

[next crescent]

yeah the animation in kill la kill is awesome

[mighty cape]

UM NO THANK YOU

UH BUH BYE

[fair wedge]

The most cringe i can do is tokyo ghoul lol

[next crescent]

kirito on crack

[mighty cape]

okay tokyo ghoul wasnt that cringe

[fair wedge]

Ehhh

[mighty cape]

kaneki first episode was on steroids

[next crescent]

i've been told s1 is the only season you need and it's the only one that matters for tokyo ghoul

[mighty cape]

all because HE RIZZED UP A DAMN WOMAN

like you met the girl then hours later she eats you alive

[fair wedge]

Only thing i didnt like about the anime was that tatara didnt get enough screen time

And also that he got killed in such a bullshit way

[topaz linden]

Ngl, surprised that eminence is a hard no but Shield hero is a strong yes for ya

[mighty cape]

SHIELD HERO IS GOOD OKAY

[fair wedge]

I waited ages for tatara to make screen time and bro got like 5min tops in the ending season

[topaz linden]

Like, Naofumi's one of the mc types the dude's ripping off

[fair wedge]

Like what kinda bullshit is that

[mighty cape]

eminence is a hard no for me because LOOK AT THEIR POSTER

what the fuck is this, hot topic?

what am I looking at

[fair wedge]

Should just rename it The Edge Lord

[topaz linden]

Ngl, I pretty much never see anime posters

So I wouldn't know

[mighty cape]

Its just blegh

No.

no no.

nuh uh.

i am so sorry for my complaining BUT GOOD GOD

that is fucking disgusting and so nasty

[topaz linden]

???

I can get the edge and cringe labels

But where tf does that come from?

[mighty cape]

I dont know, im stupid as fuck

[topaz linden]

...okay then

[fair wedge]

Lmfao

[next crescent]

this sounds like literally judging a book by its cover (like i did with bunny girl senpai )

[topaz linden]

Quite literally, yeah

[long peak]

1984d NOOOO

I didn't know that was a censored one

[fair wedge]

Rip u

[mighty cape]

Oof

so hows everybody liking spy x fam s2??

[next crescent]

havent started it yet

[wicked urchin]

i might start spy x fam but is it good

some people say its bad

[stark hinge]

it's wholesome

[wicked urchin]

right

[stark hinge]

i've read the manga it's so cute

can't wait till cruise arc

[wicked urchin]

kk

[next crescent]

It's a mix of action, comedy, and slice of life and does it all really well

It's very good if you're into that sort of thing

It's very wholesome and cute with bits of kickass here or there and plenty of comedy

[meager kernel]

the show is funny ngl

mundane man solos

[ionic schooner]

Fr

[hot notch]

Eminence in Shadow really isn't that bad. It is kinda cringe? Yea. Does it own that? Also yea. If it's not your brand of comedy then that's okay but I don't think it's fair to call it outright trash.

[hot notch]

Also, did you actually watch WFM Jake? Have we finally gotten you to like Mecha?

https://tenor.com/view/prospera-prospera-mercury-gundam-gwitch-gundam-witch-from-mercury-gif-18352198854843535469

[shadow knot]

not suffer from dated characters and visuals

filtered by old anime

otherwise most of these picks are fine if you’re steering them away from battle shōnen

[topaz linden]

Yeah, they keep bringing it up to trash talk it and I just want to photoshop Cid's face onto that one meme like:

https://tenor.com/view/regina-george-mean-girls-obsessed-gif-14169675

[topaz linden]

I did watch the first four or five episodes. Didn't really enjoy them though, so I dropped it. Mecha's just not my thing

[hot notch]

Sadge

[topaz linden]

As someone that's been forcing themself to watch some older animes recently... it really can be a dealbreaker.
Some of the older tropes/characters are painful to watch 😅

Like the way they used to write female characters feels straight out of an Ember Island theatre

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-legend-of-aang-atla-katara-aang-tearbend-gif-17635381

[shadow knot]

Its supposed to be a “so bad its good” show

so it depends

wasn’t for me so I finished the first season and gave it like
a really really low score

[hot notch]

I don't really agree that it's supposed to be a "so bad its good" show. I really don't think it's that bad.

[shadow knot]

if you don’t think its that bad then feel free to explain

I think the production is very half assed and the 4th wall jokes were corny af

[topaz linden]

Well, what exactly is "bad" about it?

Cause it feels more reminiscent of OPM to me (minus the Madhouse animation budget), being meant as a parody of the established genre rather than being meant to stand on its story on its own

Production seemed decent enough imo

Since they put some money into the highlight bits

[shadow knot]

opm jokes were very clever and the production was stellar

it lost all that in s2 though

nowadays there’s an overfluctuation of “op mc” stories in manhwa/fantasy series and it doesn’t really hold a candle to the likes of it

opm was supposed to be a parody of the battle shōnen genre anyways

[shadow knot]

but yeah like I said the production and jokes were more than enough to filter me

[shadow knot]

can’t deny this there are a lot of old shows that have the classic tropes

would take it over most modern shows today tho

[hot notch]

I feel like this is a you issue personally. If you feel like there's such a influx of "op mc" stories than just stop reading/watching so many of them? I personally just enjoy that type of story a lot so even if I'm watching 3-4 of them a season as long as they aren't egregiously terrible then I don't see a problem with them and I don't think Eminence in Shadow falls anywhere close to the egregiously terrible part of the spectrum.

[shadow knot]

thats the thing I don’t even read or watch any of them

[hot notch]

Just isn't your genre I guess then

[shadow knot]

I just see and I already know “yeah that looks garbage”

[topaz linden]

Still not sure what you mean by shoddy production tho. Cause it seems to do a pretty good job when it had moments that needed the extra animation.

https://i.imgur.com/ArJvzAs.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/N2vF6GF.mp4

Looks fine to me

No OPM, sure, but few anime are

[craggy mango]

That's pretty great by Kadokawa standard

[shadow knot]

kadokawa..

I did think rezero and konosuba had some good scenes

[craggy mango]

I agree

Re Zero was declined in season 2 tho

[shadow knot]

100%

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-hands-handshake-good-morning-anime-gif-16849160

this scene counters those 2 gifs jake sent

[topaz linden]

ReZero S1 had some pog action sequences.
ReZero S2 had good emotional beats, but I can't really recall any action scenes that particularly stood out

Missing Rem flexing with her chain ball

[shadow knot]

wait tbf that was movie production

[hot notch]

Not every anime has to have insane levels of production quality so I don't really feel like saying "this really good scene makes those other good scenes not valid" is a good argument.

[shadow knot]

it doesn’t

I literally think a show from the 70s look better than almost every isekai you can throw at me

https://tenor.com/view/ashita-no-joe-joe-anime-boxing-training-gif-27408274

[topaz linden]

See, I look at that and it looks like a flash animation

[hot notch]

https://tenor.com/view/mushoku-tensei-gif-19911957

[shadow knot]

I miss flash animation fr

[topaz linden]

Woops, deleting cause flashy

Rip Flash

[shadow knot]

its funny how I dropped mt twice

[hot notch]

This is all really coming down to a preference thing I think. I would take Eminence in Shadow's art style over this 9/10 times.

[topaz linden]

Same tbh

[shadow knot]

like say you give me demon slayer as an example

I would actually argue most of the production is ass

past s1 at least

[craggy mango]

The movie was great tho

[shadow knot]

story wise I thought it was whatever

[craggy mango]

Not the story, but the animation

[shadow knot]

animation wise

[topaz linden]

Directing/pacing is one thing, but animation/sound design wise it's held up pretty well

[shadow knot]

I think everyone can agree the cgi blobs are whatever

[topaz linden]

Really looking like it's a style preference thing here

[shadow knot]

but the vfx threw me off so much

along with the backdrops

its like they took a ss of some irl background image and copy pasted the characters

[hot notch]

The backdrops threw me off for like the first 2 episodes and then they really grew on me

[shadow knot]

its like they used irl flames

I was like pls

this is anime not live action

[hot notch]

Definitively a preference thing

[shadow knot]

yea at the end of the day its all subjective

[hot notch]

Yea no use getting worked up over it. Different people have different preferences and that's okay.

[shadow knot]

give me an engaging story I will eat that shit up

everything else is just an add on for me to judge whether I think it does it good or not

[craggy mango]

Damn Frieren is consistently great

Idk why but this small scene from the latest episode is very satisfying to watch

[shadow knot]

madhouse w/ the rotoscopes

[topaz linden]

The ||dragon|| fight was really nicely done 👀

[mighty cape]

any dub enjoyers here? or do yall enjoy sub??

[topaz linden]

Depends on the anime.

Some have really good ones, others are pretty shit

For this season, In Love With the Villainess has a fantastic simul (same day as sub) dub, so I'm watching it dubbed

[shadow knot]

mostly sub but I'm biased for dubs from the 2000s

even earlier too

[fair wedge]

Agreed

I remember when j was young DBZ & yu gi oh were always on Saturday mornings in dub

Good times

[next crescent]

Yeee

[fair wedge]

Playing with Legos and watching those

[next crescent]

And then Naruto at night

[fair wedge]

I don't think I ever saw it

At the time tho I thought dbz and ygh were more cartoons lmao

Didn't know they were anime

My first time watching anime knowing it was anime tho would be Blend S

[shadow knot]

doraemon, sonic x and powerpuff girls z were my first anime

[next crescent]

Yeah I didn't know they were Japanese, just thought they were high effort cartoons with actual stories to follow and not episodic like SpongeBob or Rugrats

[fair wedge]

After blend S was hs dxd and Tokyo ghoul lmfao

Or no NGNL was next then those 2

After that I got lost in the abyss of anime binging

[next crescent]

If it wasn't on toonami or 4kids, then the first anime I actually watched was fairy tail

And from there it's just been downhill and into the rabbit hole

[fair wedge]

I've never watched FT looked mid to me. My ex liked it tons tho lol

Same with OP

Just didn't seem good from the clips I had/have seen here or there

[shadow knot]

those are like childhood series

[fair wedge]

Ah

[shadow knot]

ft abused the power of friendship trope because that's literally a huge part of their power system

[fair wedge]

[shadow knot]

so its fine to not be a fan of it but you can argue its so dumb too

imagine breaking every single bone of ur body and still being able to leap urself and keep going or smth

[fair wedge]

Oooh I forgor about fmab. That was also one of my early ones

10/10

[shadow knot]

in that one ezra scene

fmab is so good (I haven't finished it)

[fair wedge]

[next crescent]

Yeah, magical world where the power of friendship triumphs all and keeps everyone alive (except like 20 characters they killed off and one was actually on screen)

But yeah, it scratched that fantasy itch in my brain at the time lol

[fair wedge]

xD

[next crescent]

The comedy was good in the first season too

[fair wedge]

If I ever do watch it would have to be with someone csuse I don't think I could bring myself to watch it lmfao

[next crescent]

But they took too damn long to show the dragons

That's fair

[fair wedge]

Ik the feeling fr

[next crescent]

Though, the Tartarus arc is still shit

Like, I liked the premise, but the end of the arc spent about 15 episodes showing the exact same scenes with barely any difference between them and only focused on one scene to expand upon each time

[fair wedge]

Lmfao

FT and OP are like 90% filler tho fr

[next crescent]

So I had to watch Titania get whipped by the stupid fucking bird lady each time until she finally broke out 12 episodes later and I wanted to punch a fucking wall

It wasn't regular filler though

It was reusing a dozen of the same scenes over and over and over again for a dozen episodes in a row

[fair wedge]

Oh lmfal

[next crescent]

It was like Dragonball but worse

[fair wedge]

💀

[next crescent]

Yeah

It got so annoying

[fair wedge]

I'm still coping about Tatara in tg

[next crescent]

Tg?

[fair wedge]

Bro had 30 seconds of screen time

Tokyo ghoul

[next crescent]

Oh

[fair wedge]

In like yhe last ep

[next crescent]

[fair wedge]

On yhe last season

We finally got to see him fight

[mighty cape]

konosuba dub is so good though

but i gotta continue fmab

[fair wedge]

Bro gets 1 shot in 30 seconds

Like what the fuck man

[next crescent]

Ripppp

[fair wedge]

And in yhe most bullshit way too

Was another ghoul getting revenge on him

Not even the cops

[next crescent]

😭

[fair wedge]

Jumped him from behind

Sum bullshit

https://youtu.be/hE-xqQ2E0yE?si=Wy0EiCNowLGdek4w

[next crescent]

Yeah that sounds ass

[mighty cape]

oof

[fair wedge]

[mighty cape]

what happened to my boy takizawa

[fair wedge]

Jason

I think

[next crescent]

LMAO THEY SCREENRECORDED SOMEONE ELSE'S AMV AND THEN REPOSTED IT

BRUH

[fair wedge]

XD

[hot notch]

This is part of the reason Gundam Seed gets shit on a lot. Almost any fight scene where they just need to fill runtime they'll just use the exact same bit of animation just with whatever suits are fighting and whatever backdrop they're in. It's literally the exact same thing for all 100 episodes (Seed > Seed Destiny). Everytime it comes up I laugh a little because it's just so funny to me.

Like I love Seed's designs but if we wanna to talk about shows with poor production quality the Seed is definitely a contenter.

It's not all bad but where it is bad is so glaring that it's hard to overlook.

I kinda want them to remake that bit of animation for the new movie just for the meme.

[dusty fable]

I would agree only with Edgerunners and One Punch Man. Maybe also the new Gundam. Others are already very specific. Bocchi and Love is War has very specific sort of humor and a lot of jokes revolve around japanese culture.

[hot notch]

Love is War dub is very approachable for anyone

Bocchi is also just funny

Even if you don't get the cultural jokes.

[dusty fable]

yeah, but entry points?

[topaz linden]

Both feel pretty accessible to people not already familiar with Japanese culture

Bocchi's just the indie music scene

And Love is War is academy shenanigans that wouldnt feel out of place in a stereotype UK/european school

"Poor but talented class president and wealthy talented vice president flirt through school activities" is pretty universal

Same with "shy girl with hidden talent and a youtube account joins a music club"

[dusty fable]

The premise is easy to grasp. The same is "boy meets girl". Would I suggest some generic japanese romance-ecchi as an entry show? Likely not.

For that matter, Spy x Family is much better suited imo

since it already has sort of "western" setting

[long peak]

Ah, they do the Toei time magic as well

[topaz linden]

I would. Same reason I'd suggest Star Wars for someone as an entry into sci-fi.

Is it the best sci fi film ever made? Imo nah (tho some would disagree). But it has a very broad appeal, so lots of people will at least "like" it, even if they don't love it. And from there, you can figure out what parts they liked and go deeper down the genre rabbit hole

The rec list was aimed at a more genre by genre introduction. Spy x Family's very good if you just want to introduce them to anime in general tho, I agree

Also, I wouldnt say Love is War is ecchi at all outside of that one OVA. Not sure where that's coming from 😂

[dusty fable]

For romantic anime I would probably suggest Bakuman. It has the simplest romantic premise in the world and also literally explains how manga and anime work

[topaz linden]

Romance and nothing else is a hard sell for a lot of people though, so that narrows down your target audience. I dropped Bakuman myself at about Episode 2/3ish cause of that

Stuff that does multiple things at once casts a broader net to have at least one or two things a person will like

[dusty fable]

Well, Bakuman grips with the ages old premise with a twist and then it casts the widest net possible with all the different genres they try out during the story

it's a bit slower paced, yes. But on the other hand all the tropes used are solid and not overboard

I wouldn't want to overload someone's brain when they watch anime lmao (and that's what might happen with Love is War)

so while mindgames is my favorite subgenre, I wouldn't suggest watching mindgames anime to a first timer. So NGNL, Love is War, Death Note etc are out

until a person has a good grasp of what anime is

From my personal experience, people just get distracted by all new stuff that is happening in anime compared to usual TV shows, so they don't have time to pay attention to mindgames and what is happening there

[dusty fable]

if that person is mildly interested in rockets, space or astronauts don't sound like a complete miss, I would say Space Brothers is an ideal entry point https://myanimelist.net/anime/12431/Uchuu_Kyoudai?q=Space Broth&cat=anime

honestly, I still remember how I was overwhelmed with Full Metal Alchemist humor and style when I started watching anime. Today I would think nothing about types of jokes there and the chibis they used.
But for me at that time it was literally a cultural shock. (even though I was exposed to anime via Pokemon and Sailor Moon before that)

Maybe nowadays anime style has a better penetration into western culture than 20 years ago and chibis wouldn't be so alien lmao

otherwise I would totally sugest FMA as a first entry into anime

[shadow knot]

uchuu kyoudai and planetes 🔥

[topaz linden]

FMAB being overwhelming is certainly an... interesting take 😅 Considering how much of a slow burn the series is

The first episode is a bit sudden (though that's hardly unusual for episode 1s), but I recall the series as a whole being on the slower/subtle side of things

[topaz linden]

Never watched the anime, but I remember the manga being kinda unusual

Like, it felt linear-ish, but also kinda floaty with if it was episodic or more of a single story

Reminded me almost of Cowboy Bebop's flow

[shadow knot]

first half was kinda episodic

second half followed through with an actual plot

[wicked urchin]

are there any JJK fans here?

[shadow knot]

probably

[topaz linden]

I enjoyed the handful of episodes I've watched. Havent gotten around to the rest tho

[wicked urchin]

i havent wacthed the new eps yet

i only watched a bit tbh

[topaz linden]

Im left off on like... ep6ish of season 1

[wicked urchin]

oh rightt

apparently smth sad happens later on

[topaz linden]

It does seem like the kinda story to have sad things happen

Also saw the movie, which was pretty nice 👀

[wicked urchin]

oh nice

[topaz linden]

Was kinda interesting going into it semi-blind, ngl

[ionic schooner]

I stopped at s2 episode 6 or 7

The start of the new arc

[wicked urchin]

at least you finished a season

[shadow knot]

jjk 0 is good to watch regardless of where you are in s1 since its a prequel anyways

[ionic schooner]

Fr

Iits about my man the rizzler

[wicked urchin]

i might start spy x fam soon

[ionic schooner]

🔥

[wicked urchin]

if you watched my hero academia

how far in are you

[dusty fable]

yeah, that's the point. From today's perspective FMA is nothing unusual (also I am talking about the original show, not FMAB). But I vividly remember how it was for me 15 years ago. That was literally a cultural shock. So I can emphathize with a person who knows nothing about anime

[ionic schooner]

I finished it

It's pretty cool

[wicked urchin]

i stopped a bit into season 5

[wicked urchin]

yeah i love the storyline

[edgy bone]

im caught up to the manga

it's ugh

something ig

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1138233596952465448.webp?size=48&name=despairge&quality=lossless

[wicked urchin]

the mangas too long for me

i just watch its easier

[edgy bone]

ugh

if we're talking about length it's the same story in the end

and reading a chapter is faster than watching an episode

[wicked urchin]

yh true

[edgy bone]

it's fine if you prefer the medium but I wouldnt use length as an argument

[wicked urchin]

fair enough but readings not exactly my thing

but i do buy manga sometimes

[shadow knot]

juca is caught up on my peak academia ⁉️

[edgy bone]

I used to be caught up on all of jump at some point

then I slacked off

[shadow knot]

sounds like torture

[mighty cape]

season 4 and 5 are getting better and better

[next crescent]

Current

[edgy bone]

it's fun when you binge

I wouldnt recommend trying to keep up with it weekly tho

just feels like a chore

at this point I just let it build up and binge when I feel like it

[mighty cape]

any animes you currently watching

[edgy bone]

i dont follow weekly stuff

I prefer binging

as for that

i started the garden of sinners movies

and wanted to binge mob season 3 before that

but I got distracted with other stuff

[shadow knot]

binge read is fun

especially with shōnen titles their chapters tend to be short so you can read like 100 chs with not much sweat

[shadow knot]

lmk if you fw it I thought movie 5 and 7 were pretty good but the others can be slow burn imo

[edgy bone]

I only finished the first one

idk

I kinda expected more?

it just felt like edgier less funny monogatari

[mighty cape]

GARDEN OF SINNERS IS SO GOOD

[next crescent]

What do you like

[mighty cape]

I forgot T^T

ugh i should watch fate

[next crescent]

You don't know what genre you like?

[fair wedge]

frrf

[next crescent]

Action, adventure, romance, slice of life, drama, etc?

Isekai?

[fair wedge]

E all of the above

[next crescent]

Oh LOL

Wait not you

[fair wedge]

xD

[next crescent]

Teruko

[fair wedge]

ik

[next crescent]

😭

[fair wedge]

[mighty cape]

OH I THOUGHT IT WAS JUCA TALKING TO ME IM SORRY

WHAT THE FUCK

[mighty cape]

adventure and fantasy

possibly something like inuyasha

[next crescent]

LMAO

And okay

From what I can remember, kekkaishi has a similar vibe to Inuyasha

https://myanimelist.net/anime/1606/Kekkaishi

Trying to think of shows like Inuyasha but it's been so long since I've seen it

And idk how you feel about bloodier shows that are fantasy adventure

It's less adventure and more fantasy though

But had some good old fights if memory serves

Especially when yoshi's spirit partner is involved

[mighty cape]

theres kamisama kiss

[arctic osprey]

Escaflowne is a good watch if you like Inuyasha.

It's also an action, adventure, romance, slice of life, isekai.

[dusty fable]

also Dororo.

if you liked Inuyasha I am positive you would like Dororo

[mighty cape]

OH DORORO IS SO GOOD

[ionic schooner]

What is dororo

And dorororo

And dorororoeo

And dohedoro

And dorohedo

😔

[dusty fable]

it's all dodo family. Which is dodoco from

[next crescent]

Dorohedoro is verrrrrey different from dororo

[long peak]

Nah it's basically the same

[next crescent]

Nahhhh 😭

[edgy bone]

dororo is a very old manga by the guy who did astro boy

it was adapted into an anime a few years a back

completely different artstyle and they rewrote some things tho

dorohedoro is a completely separate manga by a different author

it's relatively recent I think

dark fantasy

[frank musk]

Guilty crown, guilty gear, same thing really

[edgy bone]

with a lot of really weird stuff happening

[shadow knot]

hi no tori best tezuka

https://fxtwitter.com/AssLatam/status/1712868042139472081

[long peak]

Holy shit

[edgy bone]

feared even in hell

damn they actually read the manga

[mighty cape]

i was trying to look for anime like shield hero and black summoner

dunno if i want to continue shield hero s2

[fair wedge]

i forget whats black summoner

never watched shield hero

[hot notch]

You know it's funny. I thought black summoner was something else and then I was going to recommend you black summoner.

[fair wedge]

lmfao

oops

lol

[mighty cape]

its very good

[topaz linden]

Only thing I remember about it was that its opening was 99% After Effects

https://youtu.be/1ev6YeMqDdI

[fair wedge]

xD

[topaz linden]

not actually a half bad way to make a visually nice OP on a budget, ngl

since the show very clearly was lacking in it

[fair wedge]

oh yeah

i remember now

[topaz linden]

https://youtu.be/SjaxlfiR2ys

[fair wedge]

tbh i like that type of op/end

trying to remember others that had similar

[topaz linden]

God of High School had a somewhat similar one

in that kinda visual style at least

[fair wedge]

didnt p5 also have something similar?

i wanna say goblin slayer as well

overlord maybe on one of the seasons

[topaz linden]

Kokkoku's OP was in that style too

one of my favorite openings... despite having never watched a single minute of the show

https://youtu.be/fhBA6ynorvc

[fair wedge]

i remeber this

such a fuckin bop

i forget what the anime is aboiut tho xD

[topaz linden]

Ngl, half of my favorite openings are shows I dropped in a single episode 😂

[hot notch]

So real

[topaz linden]

I guess that's where they decide to throw their limited budget

[hot notch]

I'll admit that I've tried a show just because the OP seemed cool so it's an effective marketing strat

[topaz linden]

Yee, I wouldnt have even tried those one episodes if not for that

[fair wedge]

sad but true

[fair wedge]

i mean i would to tbh

or at the very least make sure its got a decent portion put into it

that would be the last thing i'd skip out on budget wise

[topaz linden]

Like My One-Hit Kill Sister coming in earlier this year with this banger of an ED

https://youtu.be/3lW9VAz9zcc?si=mxZToAPK3sjCkt0n

[fair wedge]

i still need to get around to watching it

[topaz linden]

Do you tho?

[fair wedge]

might be the one i start next

[fair wedge]

ye

i have like 20 anime from this year that i havent gotten around to watching

was gonna binge them at end of the seasons

never got around to it

[topaz linden]

It's basically Do You Love Your Mom and Her Two-Hit Multi-Target Attacks? but with the dude's sister instead of his mom

[fair wedge]

also that was indeed a banger

[topaz linden]

Don't expect too much from it

[fair wedge]

eh

[fair wedge]

also need to get around to that one as well LOL

[topaz linden]

[hot notch]

What do you mean? The sister 1 hit kills but the mother has two hit multi target attacks. Completely different.

[fair wedge]

[topaz linden]

Only way id watch either one is if it was an abridged lol

Like how SWE went and did one for In Another World With my Smartphone a few weeks ago

[fair wedge]

Irregular at Magic HS, all of their OPs are absolute bangers

[topaz linden]

Oh god

That damn show

[hot notch]

LiSA and ASCA

[fair wedge]

jaja

[hot notch]

Good artists

[fair wedge]

so good

[topaz linden]

I hate the show so goddamn much... but the music is so damn good. Which just makes me even more pissed off at the show 😂

[fair wedge]

why the hate broski

[topaz linden]

That music deserved a better anime

[fair wedge]

[topaz linden]

I watched the entire first season during a really slow seasonals season, and the last half was such a slog to get through

[fair wedge]

[mighty cape]

I heard akame ga kill is good

[fair wedge]

i loved all the seasons very much

[fair wedge]

never seen it

so idk

[wicked urchin]

what do you guys think of the disastrous life of saiki k

for me it gets pretty boring at one point

[fair wedge]

doenst sound familiar so idk

[shadow knot]

can be fun ig

[wicked urchin]

really? its on netflix i think

[craggy mango]

Daddy Nanami

[dusty fable]

not really. Some decent stuff that is drowned in an unnecessary drama and gore

[next crescent]

He's angy

Better tell him all your secrets so he can be happy

[placid grotto]

helloo

[ionic schooner]

helloo

[dusty fable]

Hmm, I have a small theory

This elemental lifeform said they like to help others (and it's also their function to some extent). Also, they mimic lifeforms and adapt.
There is a know lifeform that is good at adaptation. Which is Oceanids. Also Seelie

So what if the prophecy was an initial dream, created by Nabu Malikata or maybe someone who had more authority than Nabu Malikata?

So Rene stumbled upon that dream and interpreted it in a different way

as a future end of all things

but for certain life forms, like Melusine, that dream or vision looks like paradise

so Nabu Malikata using the predictive powers of the Irminsul entered that dream/prophecy too and her interaction later with Deshret resulted in curse being laid upon her and Deshret unleashing the Forbidden Knowledge onto Sumeru

[woeful osprey]

anime chat, not genshin chat

[fair wedge]

fr

[ionic schooner]

Genshin anime!!!

[dusty fable]

lmao, I forgot, sorry

usually I stay in lore channel

[next crescent]

lemme spin this into an #・anime theory

that's a reference to reincarnated as a slime

[next crescent]

especially the first half of this part

[fair wedge]

GET BACK IN THE BASEMENT

[hot notch]

I love the way spells work in Faraway Paladin. Their equivalent of Counterspell is basically just telling the opponent to shut the fuck up.

[topaz linden]

Now that pretty much all the animes for the season have started, doing my seasonal habit of going through all the OPs and EDs...

Quite a few hidden gems this season, ngl 👀

(Still not gonna watch half of em, but some looked surprisingly good)

[dusty fable]

nice follow up 👍

[next crescent]

[topaz linden]

damn, for an anime I had heard literally nothing about, Protocol: Rain has one hell of an OP
https://youtu.be/tsNhwrj8xQQ

apparently an anime about e-sports

[frank musk]

Wait ppl harassed yoasobi because the OP didnt match the tone of sousou no frieren???

[fair wedge]

want a good anime about esports, The Kings Avatar

its just

[topaz linden]

I mean, harassment aint ever okay, but it really doesn't

[woeful osprey]

I do have to agree with jake but it definitively is by the people doing the harassment

[topaz linden]

Most likely not going to watch either tbh I was just going through the list of OPs/EDs this season for bangers

[fair wedge]

you should tho fr

[topaz linden]

every season there's always a few trash shows with incredible openings/endings

[fair wedge]

its so good

[woeful osprey]

Like just keep it to yourself and skip it, not that hard

[fair wedge]

its not a new one

been out for couple years

[topaz linden]

I'm aware of it lol

[fair wedge]

people b sleeping on it fr

[topaz linden]

think I've watched an episode or two before

wasn't my thing

[fair wedge]

smh

[topaz linden]

(sports anime in general never really connects with me)

seeing as the last time I played any sort of organized sport I broke 6 bones and was out of school for 3 months

[fair wedge]

skill issue

truly

[woeful osprey]

Just get stronger bones

but what sport was it

[topaz linden]

tallest kid in the class tripped over the shortest kid in the class
hella skill issue

[topaz linden]

flag (american) football

[fair wedge]

frfr

bro forgot to drink his milk

[fair wedge]

no shot you broke a bone much less bones in FF

🤣

[topaz linden]

yee

his lil hobbit fall hurt a lot less than my fee fi fo fum one

[fair wedge]

lmfaoo

actually skill issues no way

[topaz linden]

I have excellant hand eye coordination. But the coordination ends there

[fair wedge]

[woeful osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/winry-you-didnt-drink-your-milk-fma-anime-milk-gif-11146880

[topaz linden]

https://tenor.com/view/olaf-frozen-idonthaveaskull-orbones-gif-13485996

[fair wedge]

remind me of the "oh, ive been impaled"

https://youtu.be/vMj4qNbnrls?si=zl5DeDI2oWXYlS-E

[frank musk]

I do wish i got back into sports, my stamina is now just nonexistent

[fair wedge]

my athsma is what stopped me basically

i can run like a mf

[woeful osprey]

I had been away from sports for 3 years before finally starting volleyball this year

[fair wedge]

but after about a minute feels like im coughing up blood

and also hard to breath

so i stopped lmfao

[craggy mango]

https://youtu.be/V4WuFN9F1ts?si=atI4dOtXN0Q32w7B my gf really like this song, ed of beyblade x

She doesn't even like beyblade 💀

The op sounds mid, i was expecting better from one ok rock

ShanFro has good op too
https://youtu.be/4hUx_N8QIYA?si=1v6X3Pwo6F10ulGL

[fair wedge]

ooh

kinda a bop

[topaz linden]

yee, this one's got some good kpop vibes

Def in my top 5 or 6 this season

[hot notch]

I want to like this show so bad

The actual game section just look so bad

Like I don't even know if calling them PS2 graphics would be fair to the PS2.

Song is a banger though

Caught me off guard when I heard it the first time

[hot notch]

This is so real. Asthma gang rise up.

[topaz linden]

Not the first time a garbage quality show has had a banger OP It's why I go through them all each season to begin with

there's always a handful of 4's and 5's (out of 10) with surprisingly hype openings/endings

Haven't checked out the show yet (hadn't heard about it until I was going through the season's OPs/EDs), but Shy has a pretty pog OP

https://youtu.be/2e_Zo9Jaw2M

I really like the aesthetic of it

[hot notch]

This might be a case of the OP selling me on the show

[topaz linden]

same

Going to at least check out the first episode or two here

[hot notch]

The song is alright but the visuals are great

[topaz linden]

Yee

[half fable]

Anyone knows the sauce?

[hot notch]

"Do You Love Your Mom and Her Two-Hit Multi-Target Attacks?"

Actual show name.

[half fable]

Thaaaanksss

Oh wait no

[hot notch]

?

[shadow knot]

monmysekai

[half fable]

I mean I shouldn’t have asked about the sauce

[hot notch]

"A Returner's Magic Should Be Special" has actually been a pleasant surprise so far

Pretty good OP and the first 2 episodes have managed to hook me so far.

As long as you can overlook the Arifureta S1 class CGI dragon at that start it hasn't really had any glaring flaws so far.

[next crescent]

My favorite of these is still the op to Deep Insanity: Lost Child
Or whatever the show was called

The show itself was like a 5 but the op is just jamming

Love it

[fair wedge]

I just finished cheat skill in both worlds anime last night in one sitting

10/10

Very happy with the development altho yhe ending was a bit rushed, but leaves a good ground work for a s2 if it gets one

[dusty fable]

should have joined some martial arts club. The first thing they teach you is how to fall. Literally. We spent first 3 training sessions just on that, and we kept training falling the first half of a year. Don't know if that helped, but I never broke a bone. And I literally spent most of my time outdoors

[hot notch]

Learning how to fall properly can help you in literally anything

Also an incredibly important part of Parkour

[next crescent]

^

Falling from a tree or ladder is nicer

When you know what to do and have put it to practice

[dusty fable]

I think parkour would assume that you have time to prepare for the fall. Martial arts training is good because sometimes you need to know how to protect yourself after an unexpected fall

[fair wedge]

Yeye

[next crescent]

That's what I was saying lol

When you put unexpected falls into practice, it makes it easier

Especially if you practice enough that it becomes muscle memory

Sorry I should've specified I meant the first message

Still an important part of parkour too though

[hot notch]

I wouldn't call this a garbage show (I actually think it was quite good) but this is my contribution to OPs talk for rn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0rfZS13e_o

[dusty fable]

the hardest thing is to learn not to get stiff as a board everytime you fall

[topaz linden]

Main problem being that requires physical activity

me no likey

I'll do walking and swimming, but the rest isn't really enjoyable for me

[dusty fable]

that's like plenty already

[next crescent]

https://youtu.be/248-aaZRVPk?si=4roKKLWoIYFU5mYK

My contribution

Like I said, the show isn't great, but MAN if the op isn't a damn banger

[topaz linden]

then there's the Domestic Girlfriend opening...

that song really deserved a better anime

[hot notch]

Minami my beloved

[topaz linden]

https://youtu.be/SaKdpMnwZf0

Minami

[hot notch]

Please watch the full MV if you haven't already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YF8vecQWYs

[dusty fable]

and then there is Kuzu no Honkai, which is perfect in every way

[next crescent]

I agree

[dusty fable]

I listened to this a decent number of times. Is this from some anime?

[topaz linden]

The song was used in the OP I just linked

To everyone's eternal torment

cause it's like... the trashiest of trash shows

well, one of em at least

[hot notch]

I know it has nothing to do with it whenever someone brings up Scum's Wish's jp title I can't help but think of Honkai Impact 3rd.

The brainrot is real

[topaz linden]

yeah, took me a second to realize they were talking about Scum's Wish

thought it was a honkai spinoff

[dusty fable]

hmm, I really should watch that anime. I was kinda planning to watch it. And I rarely get disappointed if I really like OP song

[hot notch]

Obligatory DomeKano ending meme (spoilers for the end)

[next crescent]

Okay but that show's also shit with an amazing op

[topaz linden]

,,,I mean, you really don't need to 😂

[hot notch]

I mean if they fully adapted it I'd watch it for the meme

[dusty fable]

is it really that bad?

[hot notch]

Yea

[topaz linden]

Natsuo is a high schooler experiencing the crushing despair of unrequited love towards his teacher, Hina. In an attempt to lift his spirits, he attends a mixer where he meets a girl named Rui. The two sleep together, expecting never to see one another again, but fate has other plans. His life suddenly becomes more complicated when his father comes home and announces he has remarried a woman with two daughters whom Natsuo has met before: Hina and Rui!

[next crescent]

https://youtu.be/bICvbcVnNuI?si=67NZ7oMeb_lwCZoK

The op is banger but the show... I've heard nothing but bad about it

[dusty fable]

well, ending was light years better, but still not bad OP

[hot notch]

Crazy when you think it's also one of OnK's predecessors

[topaz linden]

TL;DR: Guy has unrequited crush on teacher. Sleeps with girl at a mixer to get over it. Comes home, is told his father is marrying the mother of both the teacher he has a crush on and the girl he slept with. So begins a love triangle between the two stepsisters and the MC.

[dusty fable]

seems like a generic description, which I would never use as a reference 😆

[topaz linden]

Complete with a ||suppository scene||

and the anime only adapted the trashiest parts of the actual manga

[hot notch]

Fits very nicely into the "How is this not H" category

[topaz linden]

yeee

[dusty fable]

ok. This sounds so bad that it might actually get good

I mean, I have to believe in the power of an OP song

[hot notch]

It doesn't. It's like Rent-A-Girlfriend where it only gets worse over time.

[dusty fable]

otherwise I have no reference point for the current anime space

[dusty fable]

[dusty fable]

ok. What do you think of Sankarea?

[topaz linden]

Imo, at least going off of the manga (for DomeKano, not Rent a Girlfriend):
Chap 1-72 (what the anime covered): godawful trash that's basically an H film with more drama
Chap 72-110ish: Soap opera drama
Chap 120-160: dumb, but better-ish?
Chap 160-268: Actually really good. I liked this segment a lot since it veered pretty hard away from the trashy segments.
Chapters 269-276: I still to this day do not understand what led the author to do to this series's ending what she did. Literally the worst destruction of everything a series stood for in an ending that I've read, ever, of all time.

[hot notch]

I think I've heard of this show once before

The only reason I remember vaugely seeing something about this show is because of the Catboy

[dusty fable]

dude. At least a third of the manga is good. Which is more than the most from my perspective

[topaz linden]

You gotta understand tho.
The ending was like... Game of Thrones bad

where it retroactively turned that segment to shit because you now know it's not going anywhere

[dusty fable]

I don't care about the ending if I don't get there

there are very few things I read till the end

[topaz linden]

You also have to get through 3-4 good mangas worth of shit to get to the good part

[dusty fable]

Game of Thrones is a great example Though books have much lower percentage of not being fully read

[topaz linden]

there's better ways to spend time

[dusty fable]

I mean I can just leaf through it

[topaz linden]

You could, but you don't have to

you could just... read something else

[long peak]

There's a better, longer story

||read one piece||

[dusty fable]

the goodness of the OP just makes me to. I won't necessarily do that, since I have plenty to watch this season, but if I don't forget by the next season...

[topaz linden]

Drug Eating Genius Magician?

[long peak]

No

20th Century Boys

Or Vagabond

[dusty fable]

That's pretty much why I never started any really long show except Gintama (and well Hero Acacemia, but I didn't expect it to be that long tbh)

[topaz linden]

There's a better, shorter story

[dusty fable]

Have you watched Sankarea? https://myanimelist.net/anime/11499/Sankarea?q=Sankarea&cat=anime

[topaz linden]

Nope

[dusty fable]

omg

my lithmus test doesn't work here

[hot notch]

Like MT. Defintiely shorter than OP.

[topaz linden]

MT anime: yes
MT manga: Ehhh, not a fan personally

[long peak]

This looks like shit

[dusty fable]

why manga if the source is ranobe?

[hot notch]

MT LN: Amazing

[topaz linden]

The MT manga ignores the tone of the anime/light novel, skips arcs because it feels like it, and also rewrites some main story events in ways that completely undermines their impact

The MT discord has a bot to warn people about it for a reason

[hot notch]

Poor Shirone Arc

[topaz linden]

rip

[hot notch]

Became a Castle Seige

[topaz linden]

also the entire depressed adventurer arc

[dusty fable]

it's a strange thing. And pretty unique. Not for everyone, but it definitely has a lot of interesting stuff going on (even though there are also just simply bad segments of storytelling)

[topaz linden]

skipped so much they actually got major pushback for it and ended up having to make a spinoff just to adapt it

[hot notch]

Tbf the manga was my first introduction to the Depressed Adventurer Arc

It wasn't in the WN

Unless I somehow missed like a whole volume

[topaz linden]

it was an entire volume in the light novel, but it wasn't in the web novel at all

[dusty fable]

they skipped depressed MC arc? Thanks god, I hate when hero's angst goes on and on

[topaz linden]

it's like... 3 episodes man

[dusty fable]

unless it is really detailed and complex

[hot notch]

Depressed Adventurer Arc is actually really good

[topaz linden]

^

it is

It pretty much sets the tone for the next arc and a half

[hot notch]

||Poor Sarah got done dirty||

[dusty fable]

it might be a reason though why going from MT s1 into s2 never worked for me

[topaz linden]

It's 3 episodes

After that comes ||Magic Academy arc||

[hot notch]

Top 5 arc

[topaz linden]

Yeah, it's painful the way it ends, but Rudy kinda needed that wakeup call tbh.

[hot notch]

I feel like MT doesn't really have that many 'bad' Arcs

[topaz linden]

They did a good job making Soldat both an asshole but like... an asshole that's kinda in the right?

Like, sure, he could be nicer about what he's saying, but he's making fair points

[hot notch]

Soldat's actually a G in the anime. I love him.

[topaz linden]

yeh

[dusty fable]

that sounds promising.

[topaz linden]

The resemblance to Paul was really well done too. It's directly said in the light novel, but they had to do it indirectly in the anime and I think they nailed it

[hot notch]

Yea

Also Rudy ||soloing the dragon|| at the end of the Arc will never not be hype.

[topaz linden]

Any excuse to have a non-CGI ||dragon|| fight is one I'm willing to accept

[hot notch]

I was scared they were gonna skip it but they didn't and it made me so happy

You know after they skipped the introduction of one my favorite characters (I will not let go of this) I always have to be vigilant of them skipping things.

[dusty fable]

ok, I might have spoiled a next cour reading your discussion but... are you discussing manga or waht? Because CGI doesn't really often come to mind when discussing manga

[hot notch]

Discussing S2 of the anime rn

[dusty fable]

ok when did he ||solo a dragon||? I thought they were just ||collecting scales and just happened to help Soldat's team|| if it's the proper scene I am remembering

[hot notch]

Like 2 episodes after this

[dusty fable]

hmm, I totally don't remember this somehow lmao

[hot notch]

S2E4

Literally the opening scene

[dusty fable]

did I miss an episode...

[topaz linden]

sounds like it lol

that or just not paying attention and missed the scene

[hot notch]

Pretty important episode imo because it's the change of Arcs

[topaz linden]

yee

[dusty fable]

||hmm, well, I would rate that as a 6/10 vywern (dragon) fight. Too fast to be impressive||

It had 0 impact on me it seems, so I just forgot it

[hot notch]

I mean the fact that it's as fast as it that is kinda what makes it impressive. It shows off his growth well.

[dusty fable]

||the scene with bears takes almost the same amount of time as the dragon scene||

[hot notch]

I mean they're two completely different combat encounters so I don't think it's fair to compare them.

[dusty fable]

honestly, him calling the storm when he got a staff from his teacher is still comparable to most of his deeds afterwards

[hot notch]

Maybe but that's because it's an entirely different class of magic from what he normally uses

Once you start getting into Saint Class shenanigans things get wacky

[dusty fable]

erm, isn't rock/earth magic like his second most used type of magic? Like his nickname Doronuma basically Earth+Water

[hot notch]

He actually uses Earth Magic the most depsite being most proficient in Water.

Earth magic is just way more versatile in most combat scenarios and his incantationless casting allowing him to cast combo spells with ease (e.g. Quagmire, a mixture of Earth and Water magic and also his namesake).

[fair wedge]

What I miss

What anime yall talking about

[topaz linden]

The whole post-Orsted bit tbh is him taking his vast mana pool (which he's had all the way back when he first summoned the storm) and figuring out how to use it efficiently/tactically.

Sure, grand storms are flashy, but in a practical fight, being able to creatively/quickly deploy spells is what he needs to have a chance the next time he's up for a rematch

[hot notch]

I think comparing the ||Dragon|| fight in S2 to the ||Serpent|| fight at the end of S1 Cour 1 is a good way to showcase his individual growth.

[fair wedge]

Oh

Yall talking about MT?

[hot notch]

Yea

[fair wedge]

Ah

[dusty fable]

yeah, sure. They presented his level of magic manipulation progression pretty well. I just mean that in terms of impressiveness his magics didn't evolve that much

[hot notch]

Don't worry that will change

Maybe not next Cour but in S3

[topaz linden]

good ol ||Orsted P2, Iron Man boogaloo||

S3 spoilers

[dusty fable]

I totally wasn't impressed by his ||spinning drill attack that knocked out Demon Lord||. I expected it not to work actually

[hot notch]

||Tactical Nuke incoming||

||King Class Water Magic go brr||

You know it's been so long I forgot that ||Ruijerd|| had hair

[topaz linden]

Oh hey, right on cue

Literally uploaded 3 minutes ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Tstekb8lA

[dusty fable]

yes, it's a pretty sad genre indeed. Recalls the time when Zero no Tsukaima was the peak isekai

[topaz linden]

I think the genre's in a good place currently

The oversaturation has meant there's a lot of isekais that are now forced to try something different with the genre in order to stand out. Just being "isekai" alone isn't enough

[dusty fable]

My personal peak isekai is this https://myanimelist.net/anime/387/Haibane_Renmei I prefer a good old phylosophical angst

[topaz linden]

personally can't stand most anime pre-2010ish tbh

[dusty fable]

yeah, good ol' times when they had a thing called storytelling

[topaz linden]

The characters is the main thing that disagrees with me tbh

[dusty fable]

it's not like they don't have it nowadays, it's just better to have a good animation rather than a story

[topaz linden]

Looking through my MAL page, the only pre-2010 animes I've actually finished (not dropped) are pretty much:

• K-On! (2009)
• FMAB (2009)
• Bakemonogatari (2009)
• The Girl Who Lept Through Time (2006)
  Everything else I've completed is ~2012ish or later or I dropped.

[dusty fable]

did you drop Great Teacher Onizuka, Death note?

[topaz linden]

Death Note, yes. Great Teacher Onizuka is in my "watch someday if I'm out of more recent shows to watch" list after I watched an episode or two

Close to finishing Bebop to take it out of that same list, but not really enjoying that one

[dusty fable]

yeah, Bebop is rather... slow paced

[topaz linden]

It seems more interested in atmosphere than building a story. Which is perfectly fine, but I usually need a bit more than that

[dusty fable]

Well, if anything, NANA, Honey and Clover and Natsume Yuujinchou are one of the best stories that were released at that time. Those I would suggest to watch to anyone even though they won't appeal to everyone

NANA is incomplete though. But still worth it (especially including manga)

[shadow knot]

this is decent
wouldn’t call it isekai tho

nana is amazing

I think the anime left on a good note

[dusty fable]

Also, if you ever want to see the greatest SciFi anime noone knows about, check this https://myanimelist.net/anime/593/Mugen_no_Ryvius That's how you make a proper "do or die" situation thriller. Without gore which is often the case. It's very different from space sagas of that period

[topaz linden]

This sounds extremely similar to the plot of Astra Lost in Space, ngl

[dusty fable]

it's a bit slow paced, but mostly oriented on char development and psychological strife. And it stops short of the overbearing angst like in Evangelion

[dusty fable]

the premise is not that rare tbh

[topaz linden]

"group of teens seperated from adults are stranded in a space ship and must make a long journey home while tensions and threat of an unknown saboteur linger in the air"

[long peak]

I heard perfect blue was good

[long peak]

AMONG US

Sorry

[topaz linden]

That's pretty much Astra's plot to a T

[topaz linden]

nah, that's the other Nana

the talentless one

[long peak]

[dusty fable]

well, how about a twist? ||Adults want to kill all the kids|| I think that's not much of a spoiler, but that's a decent spoiler nonetheless.

[topaz linden]

Kind of a spoiler, but ||same applies|| to Astra

[dusty fable]

well, I guess I'll watch Astra

[topaz linden]

I liked it a lot tbh

it came, didn't overstay its welcome, and delivered a solid mystery thriller

not much rewatch value, but for a one time viewing it's pretty solid

[dusty fable]

it's good in a very unique way. I didn't like it. But I appreciated it overall. It's kinda like Serial Experiments Lain, which I liked though

Oh, I actually remembered another great title from early 2000x. That doesn't completely makes sense, but is great nonetheless. https://myanimelist.net/anime/790/Ergo_Proxy

[dusty fable]

its just a different type of isekai. Not-your-typical isekai of nowadays

But I also agree if you decide it's not isekai. It's just a matter of definition

[hot notch]

I know I'm mister almost anything can be considered isekai but I feel like most space exploration stuff falls under a different category because if it didn't things like Star Wars or Star Trek would also just inherently be isekais. Like could space exploration things be considered isekai under the literal definition? Yea. Would I personally put them in that category? No. That's me though. You do you.

[topaz linden]

To me at least, there has to be at least some form of the tropes present. Either directly, or an explicit rejection of them.

But I'm also in the camp of people that'd call SAO an isekai

[hot notch]

I mean the people who don't are just wrong

Like Sao is 'the' isekai.

We would not be where we are with the current state of isekai if not for SAO

And outside of the pretty much anything to do with ALO and the movies it fits your definition of isekai pretty much to a tee.

I would say GGO also fits your definition since they do technically have to survive in the other world as well for one reason or another.

Or at least some of them do

[ionic schooner]

NO WAY WARFRAME

WARFRAME ANIME

[dusty fable]

that was a Haibane Reimei discussion though, which ticks off most of the points from isekai story list. Literally ||after death second chance in another world|| It doesn't have contemporary tropes, so if Zero no Tsukaima could be considered a typical isekai by today standards, Haibane Reimei is on a border between genres. If there was a word for a phylosiphical afterlife in another world genre it would be it

[topaz linden]

I'm somewhat out of the loop on Warframe's plot (since I haven't played it in over a decade), but I don't really see the similarity?

[hot notch]

Is warframe really over a decade old?

[dusty fable]

literally the last teaser ||connected Warframe's story to alternate Earth timeline||

[hot notch]

Holy shit

[topaz linden]

Yep

decade and a half

I played a bit of it at launch and decided it wasn't for me

[hot notch]

Jake 2013 was only 10 years ago not 15

[topaz linden]

wait

10.5

[hot notch]

Or did you mean it like 10.5

[topaz linden]

that's what I meant

[hot notch]

Oh ok

[topaz linden]

yeah

[hot notch]

lmao

[topaz linden]

my b

[hot notch]

All good

[ionic schooner]

Yeah

I still play it

It's cool

[hot notch]

Still have to come to terms with the fact that Destiny will be a decade old next year

[ionic schooner]

Warframe still better😤

[topaz linden]

Dropped both, so I can't say

[ionic schooner]

Atleast Warframe is f2p

Destiny costs like 500 dollars to get the full experience

DW mods Warframe has an anime trailer so it's allowed

[long peak]

It's only 160 actually

[fair wedge]

[ionic schooner]

That's only the witch queen+ another dlc

You still need 4 others

That they'll remove in a few weeks anyways

[long peak]

I got mine on sale

Idk what you spent

[shadow knot]

160?

1 pull reference?

[mighty cape]

Yolo

[ionic schooner]

None because I deleted after 2 hours (there was no more free content)

[hot notch]

I mean this is just false but good for you I guess

Also my friend recently rebought most of his DLC on PC since he transitioned from Console gaming to PC gaming and the main DLC don't transfer. It cost him like $75 for all the modern DLC excluding dungeons and seasons which do transfer over. Granted this was on a really good sale but still it's not anywhere close to $500.

[hot notch]

Also you play D2 golden?

[hot notch]

I was curious so I did the math. If you had bought all the Destiny Franchise (both games and all DLC) at Pre-Order/Release full price using the most cost efficient bundles it would have cost you a grand total of $759.88 before tax.

This includes everything including The Final Shape which comes out in February

I also created a list of each DLC and it's associated costs.

[hot notch]

I'd also just to let it be known that you could get this number higher if you didn't buy the annual passes/deluxe editions.

Welcome to my brainrot btw. I have over 4k hours in the franchise.

[long peak]

Did you also include dungeon keys

And 23 seasons of the battle pass

[hot notch]

Annual Passes/Deluxe Editions cover those

Here I'll send the list I made

59.99 Destiny
34.99 Destiny Expansion Pass (House of Wolves/The Dark Below)
39.99 Destiny: The Taken King
29.99 Destiny: The Rise of Iron
59.99 Destiny 2
34.99 Destiny 2 Expansion Pass (Curse of Osiris/Warmind)
69.99 Destiny 2: Forsaken + Annual Pass (Black Armory/Joker's Wild/Penumbra)
59.99 Destiny 2: Shadowkeep Digital Deluxe Edition (Season of Undying/Season of Dawn/Season of the Worthy/Season of Arrivals)
69.99 Destiny 2: Beyond Light Digital Deluxe Edition (Season of the Hunt/Season of the Chosen/Season of the Splicer/Season of the Lost)
99.99 Destiny 2: The Witch Queen Deluxe Edition 30th Anniversary Bundle (Bungie 30th Anniversary Pack/Season of the Risen/Season of the Haunted/Season of Plunder/Season of the Seraph/WQ Dungeon Key)
99.99 Destiny 2: Lightfall + Annual Pass (Season of Defiance/Season of the Deep/Season of the Witch/Season of [REDACTED]/LF Dungeon Key)
99.99 Destiny 2: The Final Shape + Annual Pass (Echoes/Revenant/Heresy/FS Dungeon Key)

[hot notch]

I could probably get close to 1k if I did it as inefficient as possible

I won't talk about this anymore in here though since this is wildy off topic

[fair wedge]

xD

[fair wedge]

[hot notch]

Still one of my favorite CR titles

[fair wedge]

Lmfao what

[hot notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq6gZ2n2SH8

Also, Gate was a great anime and you will not convince me otherwise. Enjoy Rory Mercury being Rory Mercury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rovD2S2wIxg

[mighty cape]

any peeps a berserk fan??

[dusty fable]

oh, that reminded me of another great old anime: Claymore

[mighty cape]

Should I give that a watch?

[dusty fable]

If you liked Berserk

[ionic schooner]

LETS GO

CHRIS IS GOATED BRO

[mighty cape]

whats this anime about??

[ionic schooner]

I think its about a dude being Reborn to Master the Blade: From Hero-King to Extraordinary Squire (Female Symbol)

[hot notch]

@topaz linden this is you but anytime someone asks for an anime recommendation instead of a book.
https://youtube.com/shorts/dAd6piXlzGg

[topaz linden]

I mean, I could just as easily do books if anyone ever asked for recs

Both weeb and non-weeb