・tc-lounge

[dense lantern]

Ya I go at the night

Like batman

[limpid galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/nihilux-but-i-refuse-rohan-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-meme-gif-2917808770912758227

[dense lantern]

You can't kill a watt, son 🗣️

[oblique ermine]

AINT NO WAY GNG IS THAT 67K DPS 😭

[dense lantern]

Six savennnnnn

[limpid galleon]

roku nana

[dense lantern]

Did u know revenant used to be a completely different character

He was the first reborn (fully reworked) character

[limpid galleon]

wada

[dense lantern]

He also introduced the whole no new legend every season thing by making the season all about him

[dense lantern]

Ya he used to throw a ball that disabled abilities of anyone who walked near it

And his ult made u return by death

So u could rush into an entire squad and die and return back to where he ulted

I remember the octane revenant meta where u revenant ulted and octane jumpadded and you wouldn't be punished at all because you're immortal 🗣️

[limpid galleon]

https://tenor.com/tHJbu0MBT5C.gif

[dense lantern]

And then they reworked lifeline and fuse

Lifeline rework wasn't even that big it just made her more modern

Fuses rework was crazy tho

[limpid galleon]

why is this conduit person broken

[dense lantern]

Ya she makes ur teammates and urself instantly Regen shields

The supports this season are so op

Gibraltar Newcastle and conduit r like the top 3 supports

All of them are good they're just really op

People jus don't play Newcastle cuz he's a boring character

[limpid galleon]

true

what about oldcastle

[dense lantern]

Yeah he kinda got slimed by the cartel

😭

The Newcastle rn is a retired soldier dad (Bangalore's brother)

He became Newcastle to pay off the debts of the old Newcastle

[limpid galleon]

wadahelll

[dense lantern]

Btw revenant slimed octanes dad in front of him 💔

[vapid current]

weeb

[dense lantern]

Bro couldn't even do anything about it

[vapid current]

why they got people named after places

[dense lantern]

Mozambique here 😎

[twin thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-umamusume-uma-musume-uma-picmix-gif-3713538852965125353

[crimson oasis]

i need good dps in zzz

[inner ether]

https://tenor.com/view/labyrinth-laby-ptn-path-to-nowhere-gif-10403234496847111740

[crimson oasis]

WTF

ISOLDE IS WHAT

[limpid forge]

dw he's just likes sandrone and is secretly doomposting her so that she gets buffed

@solid dust yo you never told us her burst was 🤏 close to being a cocacola advert

[opal bone]

a soldier

[crimson oasis]

oh

that was quick

[proud tusk]

@solid dust
I figured it out
Gil, Rossi, Perlica, Mifu

Start with Finisher to trigger Perlica Combo and get the Phys buff from her weapon

Electrification will trigger Gil's Combo to apply 1 Vul stack

Use Gil's skill to apply art infliction and trigger Rossi's Combo for 2 stacks of Vul

Use Rossi's Skill to apply Phys & Heat dubuff from her passive and 1 more stack of Vul for max stack

Gil's Ult for Art sus then Rossi Ult

Mifu combo skill for Phys Sus and then do her Skill 2 to consume the Vul for 4 stacks of Crush then Skill 3 for final beeg punch

Now did I cook or nah

[limber heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792147187076694057/1496542351764754593/16.gif

[limpid forge]

oh wow nicola is a seelie when she plunges

[deep niche]

Damn

Mifu potential pics fucking hot damn

[hot fiber]

oh yeah, i watched the stream

kinda sadge Mifu is an Endmin replacement

[proud tusk]

Kinda happy about it

About damn time the phys team gets some upgrade

[hot fiber]

I mean, Endmin is still missing some potentials

[proud tusk]

Now can they please release more Phys support

[proud tusk]

Mifu looks pretty stacked tho

She also comes with Phys Sus

[hot fiber]

oh, I might've missed that

[limpid forge]

i literally just 90ed endmin last week

[odd brook]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arknights-endfield-mouzyy-5f1rUrJ9XBCnQbcYfZ

[hot fiber]

dont worry, I just 80ed Akekuri and got her Ult to M3

[proud tusk]

Her combo skill applies phys sus and gives her stagger resistance

[limpid forge]

does it give more sp?

wait

is vampo boy a vanguard?

[hot fiber]

yup

[proud tusk]

Ye but we have no stats yet

But I would assume he would give more consistent sp ren

[twin thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sirius-symboli-sirius-approaching-i-am-approaching-your-location-uma-gif-16992141653340269406

[proud tusk]

Also more AOE attack

[limpid forge]

consume 100 sp to apply 4 heat inflictions in a 10m radius and refund 10 sp for every stack of heat infliction applied on enemy

real

[dense lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-perlica-huh-what-confused-gif-2544174384777554452

[limpid forge]

g!truth is this facts?

[molten maple]

Paimon's Wisdom

Question

is this facts?

Response

It is decidedly so.

Requested by puf.fin

[oblique ermine]

g!truth are you gay

[molten maple]

Paimon's Wisdom

Question

are you gay

Response

My sources say no.

Requested by 1auvre

[proud tusk]

His skill doesn't refund sp
It applies heat sus and heat infliction

When the affected enemies die, the skill will bounce to the nearby target and apply heat sus and infliction again

[limpid forge]

fischl in that event quest coded aah

[proud tusk]

I'll probably skip the vampire guy unless he cracks the hell out of Laev

[limpid forge]

bricked. /s

so anyway that means instead of ake he'd replace ardelia?

@hot fiber

[proud tusk]

Still need ardelia for corrosion

For Laev's combo skill

[limpid forge]

her buffs that big?

[limpid forge]

i find that wulf gets that job done usually

[proud tusk]

No but corrosion is corrosion and she is the most consistent way to trigger her combo skill

[limpid forge]

such a shame. ardelia's skill feels p clunk

is his sp recovery however it is. good enough to replace akekuri by alot?

[proud tusk]

No stats yet so we won't know

[limpid forge]

aah

[proud tusk]

But previously Ardelia will have to consume the corrosion for Art sus

But now with the vampire guy Ardelia no longer has to use her skill for sus, thus you can have heat sus and corrosion on the enemies

[flat elk]

damn

[trail pier]

i would LOVE if laev and camille work together

[limpid forge]

aah so just proc her combo and that's it? ardelia becomes 0 sp user?

[trail pier]

i just got my laev p5

[limpid forge]

say it with me guys

[limpid forge]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE

[trail pier]

im ngl

i didnt even spend hardly at all

she was p4 her first run

[limpid forge]

hi ngl i'm Souka || Souka || SOUKA 67/69

[trail pier]

hi

[flat elk]

@limpid galleon did he just-

[limpid forge]

who knows what that means in whale context?

[proud tusk]

Yea

[limpid forge]

[flat elk]

YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY

[trail pier]

just a few thousand

[flat elk]

MY NAME

[trail pier]

jkjk

[flat elk]

Jesus what

[trail pier]

this was all from game release, BP welkin and didnt spend too much other than that

i cant remember its been a minute

how many pulls with BP welkin were out first patch

[proud tusk]

Also generally he just applies more heat inflictions

Not only his skill will bounce between enemies when defeated so he doesn't need to constantly recast the skill like Akekuri

His Ult also applies heat infliction

So overall he is just better qol than akekuri

[flat elk]

wait what did you use for this

[trail pier]

endfield tools

https://endfieldtools.dev/

[flat elk]

ty

[oblique ermine]

@flat elk

https://fixupx.com/thegodoffortuna/status/2057193047759196314/video/1?s=46

aknee (@thegodoffortuna)

from that event
︀︀
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[iron drum]

https://fixupx.com/ZZZ_EN/status/2058035192434971026

Zenless Zone Zero (@ZZZ_EN)

On this brand-new road toward the future, it's time for Starlight Knight Billy to make his debut!
︀︀
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FixupX · May 23, 2026, 4:00 AM

[unreal zenith]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QAuPCAOC_28?si=zAvNZqNV9ox0sMFB

[flat elk]

GODDAMN AURA

HOLY MASTERPIECE

[long lance]

https://x.com/raiden_isa/status/2057853224439218637?s=46

Isa 🪽🇵🇸 (@raiden_isa)

I went to ask Alain his opinion on Sandrone's new dress

X · May 22, 2026, 3:56 PM

[solar saddle]

my account standing got bad but

whatvr

[pallid tangle]

goodmorning tcl

well afternoon

[plain portal]

this DA buffs sucks...

why two anomaly shill...

[odd sigil]

just saw someone that spread misinfo about what happened to sandrone in 6.2 and when confronted, said that they dont do the stories because they alr know what happens from the leaks

like the bullet point telegram leaks arent enough for you to enter lore discussions 🫩

also one person came up with the idea of sandrone keeping the longer dress but in return getting a larger chest and the art that has been on my feed

[deep niche]

Oh damn. I thought it was just me

[pallid tangle]

i'm forever gonna be stuck in this quest bru

[unreal zenith]

same story, bru, but with cuprium

[shrewd sinew]

Finally

It happend again

I got Denias weapon from the free x10 pull they gave on anni

[pallid tangle]

it's always the free 10 pull they give that i get a 5 star

the first 10 pull was lingyang and now its denia

something's up

[limpid forge]

so ake is just.. useless now

[limpid forge]

https://tenor.com/bVQFj.gif

[proud tusk]

ake is still more universal

[limpid forge]

"just say no if you disprove"

[limpid forge]

who even wants ake now tho over others? i don't have rossi, maybe her?

yvonne team is airtight
laev team booted her out
fangyi and avy like arknight
physical would like pog and we had that selector for pog

i mean like bis

is she like kazuha now?

[proud tusk]

budget wise ake just works everywhere technically
she still generate a lot of SP with basically just spam Ult and she still gives Link

and she is budget friendly

Vampire guy only works for heat team
still and he is a premium 6 star

so ake still has value

[long lance]

https://x.com/notthiswayqq/status/2057966683570975086?s=46

NOTTHISWAY (@NOTTHISWAYQQ)

Someone was saying that FGO players don't know generosity, comparing it to HSR giving Gilgamesh away for free.

Anyway, so here's 55 of the units FGO has given away for free, which includes some units that were absolutely fantastic, fan favorites or which have unique gimmicks.

X · May 22, 2026, 11:27 PM

[proud tusk]

GI players cried looking at this

@deep niche Mengzhou official leak

[deep niche]

cyberpunk huanglong

[deep niche]

do i see a naked person over there???
also did they give astolfo for free??
is he even playable in fgo?

[unreal zenith]

i hope we're getting a free CP2077 deluxe edition copy on steam during the collab with wuwa

[deep niche]

dream on lmao

i hope too

[proud tusk]

clearer pic

[deep niche]

wait is this some convention??

damn

[proud tusk]

yea
the anni offline event in china

[deep niche]

they went that way to drop mengzhou

wow

[odd sigil]

generational dottore diss https://fixupx.com/m1s3ne/status/2057813364852892133?s=46

m1s3n (@m1s3ne)

I'll do anything

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https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-death-the-boys-the-boys-finale-gif-12557701460464900851

[limpid forge]

this is really sus in the context of the infamous dottore dialogue

skelly

[sinful wigeon]

I don't even like Dottore but delete this Dottore still have class as a villain 😔

[limpid forge]

ofc he has class. blud never graduated. he has tonnes of classes left to attend. that bum

[proud tusk]

@deep niche
https://fxtwitter.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/2058088037523882468

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

Turning Around | Wuthering Waves 2nd Anniversary Special Cinematics
︀︀I will be there for everyone... As we head toward our shared future, leaving the past behind.
︀︀
︀︀Wuthering Waves 2nd Anniversary EP "Turning Around" is presented by the special creator Grabbitz from the Pioneer Association.
︀︀Production: Wuthering Waves
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︀︀
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FxTwitter · May 23, 2026, 7:30 AM

[limpid forge]

omg i'm 1 primo away from perfection

[vapid current]

but your name is 6769, so you are 197 primos over

[limpid forge]

my name is Souka || Souka || SOUKA 0.9710144928

[vapid current]

no i just renamed you

[deep niche]

balls

[limpid forge]

no i'm Souka || Souka || SOUKA 67/69

[limpid forge]

@thorn sun we were robbed brooo

she can canonically teleport to seelie courts

lmao finally she's not wearing a bricked set 😭

neat how since i don't have the hex reso i don't get the full buffs but my chasca still gets the 20% pyro damage bonus regardless

[pallid tangle]

WoAh

that looks so techy

same nation as jinzhou that's insane

[unreal zenith]

https://leonardo.osnova.io/9092a9bc-b6fc-5980-aef8-2e02d63291ca/-/format/mp4/#t=0.1

[proud tusk]

I mean
jinzhou is pretty techy too consider they have cars, giant laser turrent and holograms communication

[limpid forge]

holy shit chasca with nicola durin iansan really is leagues above chasca furi/benney/citlali
and the ppc here is extrememly dense coz i haven't even imported nicola's artifacts in there. 2.36mil on nicola without any artifacts at all

2.8 mil after i imported her broke aah artifacts 😭

[mystic smelt]

are endfielders here

how is mifu and Camille

[limpid forge]

https://tenor.com/piZw0JWtJfq.gif

[mystic smelt]

i saw comparisons between rossi and camille but i forgot if rossi ended up better after people got her kit

[vapid current]

who do I sub durin for...

i was thinking nicole mona

but does it matter if chasca isnt hex

[trail pier]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-sandrone-genshin-sandrone-sandrone-gif-7059706214724830859

nicole being hex for durin there is way more important than durin being hex for nicole

[vapid current]

yeah thats what I thought

man, it really feels like Nicole was the upscale Durin needed

and I didn't get him. and i dont have enough to get him now

[trail pier]

at least nicole is still goated

[sinful wigeon]

She's cute even when she's mad

[long lance]

dah moon crazy

[long lance]

astolfo is technically free at times and yes he's in the game twice

[mild arch]

i saw zayne's AND???

[solid dust]

Arknights dont have leeks. So its pretty much physical dps and lavacake support

[plain portal]

Genshin average pull per region

1.x - 80 (7 patches)
2.x - 76 (9 patches)
3.x - 74 (9 patches)
4.x - 76 (9 patches)
5.x - 80 (9 patches)
6.x - 82 (8 patches est. )

If next update gives more than 74 assumed pulls current average might go up

[pallid tangle]

wait bets, what are the chances of planarcadia being "fuyuki city" in the fate pt 2 collab

[solid dust]

I cant believe , I am in britain type shit

[long lance]

hsr fans vs fate fans feel like its own kind of holy grail war

[pallid tangle]

the plot of fate apocrypha

[long lance]

wdym

[pallid tangle]

i just chalked it up to the fact of it being 2 team holy grail war

[proud tusk]

no stats yet
so all we know is their role

Camille is a Heat Vanguard so he and Rossi serves entirely diff role

Mifu is a guard, playstyle focus on having the team build up to 3 Vul stacks then trigger her combo skill and combo with her skills to do dmg

she'll mostly just replace MC in phys team

[flat elk]

Yah shits fucking epic, also... call me weird but this is the first sylus solo card that i don't rlly want

Idk... changing into a literal kitten-

Is a bit much for me

But collection pepe... should i get or skip...

[crimson oasis]

aaaaaa

i need another dps in zzz

i cant pull billy i dont have his supports

[deep niche]

M6 billy and m6 corin trust

M6 manato trust

[crimson oasis]

i just started

the only m6 i have is soukaku

[long lance]

fair point

[crimson oasis]

i've decided to catch up to two stories at the same time

[devout steeple]

This is how people get burnt out and be bitches on the internet

[crimson oasis]

cap

[devout steeple]

Truth

https://tenor.com/view/sandrone-genshin-impact-sandrone-true-true-truth-nuke-gif-1841417766263918298

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-true-sandbina-true-sandbina-truth-nuke-sandbina-kirari-gif-10551132383944043409

[crimson oasis]

this is how i can get promeia's weapon

evanescia

evanescia weapon

[flat elk]

Get e1

Better than s1

[crimson oasis]

if i even get her

😭

if i lose my 50/50 i'll skip for yaoguang

[flat elk]

GRIND HARD SAI

[flat elk]

Oh shit actually ya

Yaoguang is a much better investment if u want elation

[crimson oasis]

ice elation

i need to clean my pc

but i dont have the air thingy

[devout steeple]

It's 84

[bright raven]

ts been on my feed so often

[pallid tangle]

GUGU GAGA GUGU GAGaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA

[plain portal]

Which one?

[devout steeple]

The patch pulls 6.7

Also the fucking reddit comments

Saying we r so back

[plain portal]

Oh yeah just saw
Well then average goes up by one
So now nod krai has 83 average then

[devout steeple]

When this was the trend for years

[sinful wigeon]

https://x.com/i/status/2058127839572934911

Can this be average from this point onward thanks

About NodKrai🌙 (@AboutNodKrai)

REWARDS 6.7

FP2: 84 wishes
Welkin: 107 wishes
W+BP: 116 wishes

Via Hiragara
#GenshinImpact

X · May 23, 2026, 10:08 AM

[plain portal]

Average has only gone up so yeah
Nod krai already at 83 average
Snezhnaya should be higher or same

[limpid forge]

idk. durin+nicola give pyro resonance and shred. ig the next best thing is fischl?

wait i'll check

[devout steeple]

Ifl people that are loud on social media

Aren't here since day 1

[limpid forge]

deadass having power outages on the one weekday off from work today 😭

[devout steeple]

Cause atp

You get used to it

[pallid tangle]

at the very least it isn't 2 days

i once resorted to reading books cuz powerbanks ran out

well novels at least

[limpid forge]

omg wild

bro became literate 😭

[pallid tangle]

ill be honest if i need to read something i usually do it online

[limpid forge]

ok so fischl durin was never really far off from the citlali furi benney team. that's wild

but if fischl has gift...

[vapid current]

yeah but

idc

about durin teams

[limpid forge]

hmm not that good since the pyro doesn't get buffed

oh wait

sry i looked at durin fishl iansan
instead of nicola fischl iansan

k yea

fischl iansan nicola

better than c2 furi citlali ttds benney

[vapid current]

what con iansan?

[limpid forge]

and this nicola doesn't even have 3500 atk coz artifacts are unlevelled poopoo

c6

[vapid current]

[limpid forge]

oh wow she reached 3900 atk on this team coz of fischl hex buff i think

[long lance]

i mean

check 5.8, 4.8, 3.8. 2.8 and 1.6

[limpid forge]

oh no wait it's prolly 3900 coz of yea fischl. and also counting nicola's own buff lul

k yea she's only givign 474 atk instead of 600

so atleast in this scenario nicola >> durin
a half assed nicola at that

and it's rare but chasca can defo use a shieid instead of shred.

so the tipping point is durin's damage vs fischl's damage which idk how big the gap is

[vapid current]

okay. so do I have to look for a sub for iansan now too

[limpid forge]

ig c6 ororon

or c6 chevy

or maybe c1 iansan is still worth it

[vapid current]

i do have c6 of both ororon and chev

[limpid forge]

right before power cutoff i saw that my venti finally got a winds set so time to test it out ig

oh right wait i was gonna look for faru totm build

[vapid current]

i need to farm new set so bad. my nicole is suffering

but i needed to level her up first

so i have to do boss instead of domains

and now im out of xp books again...

[limpid forge]

did you atleast do the witches homework unlike me?

[vapid current]

I'm going to do it soon, because I only just now got her to level 70

i did not prefarm, I impulse pulled

so I had nothing for her

[limpid forge]

coz the new set is literally just 20% er at 4pc without the homework done

ok faru is on a totm now and venti allgedly does 1.2 mil damage i think if my multi config is right

[long lance]

wait

[limpid forge]

i thought the same but after i pulled her i rememberd that i prefarmd the world boss for her

😭

if i'd dedicated to saving that 163rd pull that would've been quite a shock after 20 days

[vapid current]

also since I didnt plan on getting nicole, i obviously didnt plan on getting prune

so

2 chars unplanned im building for

and I gotta prefarm for sandrone too

since u can get everything iirc

she doesnt use anything new

[limpid forge]

man idk what to do with prune

unlike nicola, prune really is only bis for varka unless she's c6

[vapid current]

yeah. i got varka too so thats why im building prune

[limpid forge]

so idk when i wanna build her

[limpid forge]

oh damn

3 cost 145k dps team in the big 2026

[vapid current]

otherwise I probably wouldn't build prune

idk what set prune uses. vv?

[limpid forge]

think so yea

[vale granite]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/2058095592732282928

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

Ever Shine With You | Wuthering Waves 2nd Anniversary Celebration
May the kindling of Startorch burn bright, and our path stretch ever farther.

Claim Radiant Tide x10 and 2nd Anniversary Exclusive Avatar "Tidesong Once More" via the [Gifts of Grand Celebration] Anniversary

X · May 23, 2026, 8:00 AM

[limpid forge]

definitely a very low bar but this ig a 67k dps team did better than i'd imagined

oh. faru has 20s cd. so it's closer to a 60k dps team if multi opt right + whatever durin damage is

k so 87k team allegedly

[sinful wigeon]

Streets been saying shugus rerun....do I grab M2...

[limpid forge]

with an nicole with half levelled artifacts

*shogun?

[flat elk]

Yes.

Dew it

With that u can just hold e and be done

[sinful wigeon]

[limpid forge]

oh wow it's very close to right. irl team did better than optimizer calcs even somehow

ig multiopt has a few nas less than what i do

[proud tusk]

this is why average is such a shit way to measure it

cuz by the pulls per new limited 5 stars, Nod Krai got the worst

[limpid forge]

aah right tigh and dehya

makes sense how i started having actual savings around sumeru

skipped 3.0 coz duh and skipped 3.1 coz i wanted to have nahini before niloo instead of having niloo and gambling nahini

[long lance]

you don't need to pull every nod krai 5* though

[limpid forge]

but this also doesn't doesn't consider losing 5050s and what not. it's p fair standard i think ngl

[proud tusk]

I mean
you don't need to pull all the characters in every patch and in any gacha but erm

[limpid forge]

not just what you get

but also what you need

[plain portal]

It's average for a reason..
New players or those who don't save are going to be affected more of course

[limpid forge]

even if not pulling every single character it kinda accounts for less/more characters

[proud tusk]

average is still a poor metric
new or old
even more so for old players, cuz what's in the past is already past for them

[limpid forge]

imagine if her explo was "compass if you alr own compass BUT you can also travel to seelie courts"

[long lance]

that's true

[plain portal]

But again it wasn't really for that anyway
It was just showing that total pulls have increase not decreased as Twitter wants to believe

[limpid forge]

heck just limit it to like a portable waypoint deal like zibai even

but limited to seele courts

no actually that's p shite nvm

[vapid current]

this would be kinda busted tho lol

like you would have so many more tp waypoints across the entire map

[limpid forge]

fox has a valid point

pulls on avg has increased

but the need to pull has also increased.
especially with shilled content

[plain portal]

That's true for every gacha lol

[limpid forge]

and looking at it that way the pulls per char is indeed low

[plain portal]

Unless you think other gacha don't have pwercreep over time

[limpid forge]

overcompensation for the "she is compass but only if you already owned compass"

[proud tusk]

shilled content
more agressive push on bundles

and still some patch alone still has very little pull

even if the average gone up
it wont make patches that drops with 50-60pulls feels any better

[vapid current]

why does that need to be overcompensated for

?

are u saying thats bad?

[limpid forge]

she might as well not have a explo passive and you could just hold Z to use compass instead

but ngl just doing cas on her while travelling is p fun instead of compass

[vapid current]

shilled content doesn't matter, its bragging rights. Abyss 12 is doable with a lot of teams, Stygian beyond diff 3 is just for like, small benefit and mainly just to prove you can clear

IT is the only one, which like, does have shill stuff but its on a much easier scale

and its shill is mostly having a horizontal account

[limpid forge]

hmm hmm IT speaking of IT. need more units == need more pulls

[thorn sun]

IT is a generational wealth endgame

If you don't have years of progress, good luck lmao

[limpid forge]

stellar IT when pls

1500 per month real.

[thorn sun]

It will happen eventually

[proud tusk]

well they're not necessarily overcompensating for it

if the pulls before already feels balance, increasing the pull amount would balance it
but if you increase it but you also make more game design choices that would push players to need to pull more than before

than you basically just take steps forward then taking steps back again
and if the push for those out weight the increase in pulls then it's worse

is what I mean

[thorn sun]

I'm preparing for it whenever I can.

[limpid forge]

oh choc means nicola passive

atleast i think choc meant that

[proud tusk]

oh mb

[vapid current]

I did

[thorn sun]

Picking up 1 copy of all 4-stars is kinda useful

[vapid current]

i dont use compasses so idk how they function. but the nicole passive seems like its pretty convenient.

[thorn sun]

Just from an IT perspective.

[vapid current]

I have accidentally used it in Nod Krai where I am forced to obtain the compass.

[limpid forge]

more the reason they should have every flagship event with 4* char have the last released 4* as a pick your own option

[vapid current]

it just shoves it into my inv

[long lance]

so fox is saying that if they increased pull count they would make shill content even worse than it is now

[vapid current]

unlike other regions where I have to craft it

[plain portal]

Idk but if you pulling for character just to clear SO for few elixir...I think you have bad spending habits at that point

[proud tusk]

they already make shill worse than before since natlan so it's not a would it's already happening

I don't think they're planning to change for the better in the future looking at how nod krai is
but it is what it is by this point

[devout steeple]

Tbh i kinda just use the exlirs to finish a 4 piece

Than ideal pieces

[vapid current]

The main issue is not shill content, but shill teams, where u kinda have bricked units outside of specific teams. where its like "oh i have varka, but I need nicole now because otherwise he's not as good, and he also needs prune, who only has half a kit for every other character in the game"

[limpid forge]

i saw cyno fall down on his knees at walmart when we got the confirmation that sandrone is needed for stellarconduct

[devout steeple]

I would argue it's bosses

Because hex teams

[limpid forge]

how does that even work? is cyno a quickswap now coz he NEEDS sandrone?

[devout steeple]

Aren't even that meta

And it's

Shill hard with x

Shill easy when you have the 2 bundled

It's ultra specificity in bosses only i would argue hex teams the 4 premium set up rn

[limpid forge]

guys am i close to gta sanandreas in genshin?

[devout steeple]

Lunar with aino does enough

For most content

[limpid forge]

oh i alr had that hairstyle 🗿

[plain portal]

It's become worse definitely after skirk but the design philosophy was always there

[vapid current]

yeah i am saying meta doesn't matter rly. anything beyond diff 3 (piss easy) for SO is bragging rights. Abyss is not easy and it does have shill bosses, but like, SO diff 4 is way harder than it. and diff 5 is even moreso, and when a lot of people talk about meta, they mean "clear diff 5"

[limpid forge]

so many items in MW and i somehow got 2 of the same emotes at the same time

[devout steeple]

Assume you don't 9 star twelve

The lost is like

What 100 primos

[vapid current]

yeah

[proud tusk]

shill content and bundle aside tho

I just don't really like how "average" doesn't really reflect on the actual experience
, like if someone say "the average now is 80"
it's not like people are getting 80 pulls per patch. some patch still ended up with 60ish pulls.
and the average being 80 doesn't make experiencing a patch with 60 pulls any better

[limpid forge]

i got the cool looking skirt lesgooo

[devout steeple]

That's a dress my guy

[thorn sun]

im likely never upgrading my female manekin from here on out

she reached peak

[limpid forge]

yea i'd rather if those pulls were frontloaded instead

[obtuse sage]

Finished Expedition 33 and now I'm so fucking depressed 😔

[limpid forge]

Eulasalute

[vapid current]

Content clear is for bragging rights, which is why like, yeah, pull counts are bad. but I would never use meta to justify why the low pull count is bad for the game. It's bad because you have a lot less individual units.

X unit is paired with Y and Z

and if u dont get Y and Z, X is not very functional

[plain portal]

Genshin has been consistent since fontaine with releasing 11 5 star per region

Few one them are standard as well but eh

[proud tusk]

I don't think they're ever consistent with it

[plain portal]

You can count I guess

[devout steeple]

Like in all honesty the patch deficit of not clearing endgame

[devout steeple]

Is like 300 at most

Atp just do dailies and you can get characters you want

[limpid forge]

rate my ever changing manekina

[devout steeple]

Girlypop

[thorn sun]

here's mine

[limpid forge]

isn't that from the premium banner?

[proud tusk]

yea that is also kinda an issue with their design lately

[thorn sun]

yep
i used the one time dose of premium currency we got

and got that one

tldr it will remain peak forever

[limpid forge]

same. i got this sweater/skirt one

with the funni intro emote

[proud tusk]

technically back then has it
but like itto need gorou etc
but even then losing gorou is not world ending for itto

[plain portal]

Even with goro it was world ending for itto I'm afraid

[proud tusk]

I mean in comparison to with or without but yea geo is still ass but you get what I mean

[devout steeple]

Also tbh the arguement that milastra ruined the game is kinda dumb imo

[thorn sun]

i like the sleeves with the criss cross pattern

[limpid forge]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/5yOSov1P35

i'm not allowed to unwear this coz of this

[plain portal]

Geo is getting carried by zibai now

[limpid forge]

ngl it's p annoying how they never gave us free premium pulls after

[proud tusk]

milastra is a pretty good idea to keep the game active when there are no content to do

problem being it's just not what most players are playing genshin for

[thorn sun]

first dose is free

[limpid forge]

sounds like druggie talk or smth

[plain portal]

Hoyo is working on new open world flagship title so definitely a lot of money and manpower going there

[thorn sun]

that's because it is

[limpid forge]

[thorn sun]

hoyo operates on this for all their games

it's a predatory gacha game you're playing lmao

[devout steeple]

I think senior devs

[plain portal]

Older titles will have to do on their own

[devout steeple]

I've heard the new game is actually paid

[proud tusk]

people are drawn to genshin for the story and openworld design

so when people that the dev is slowing down on openworld updates and then push more milastra contents

it rubs the players the wrong way same way when they tried to push TCG back in 3.X

[devout steeple]

Not sure

[mystic smelt]

i was talking more about comparisons between mifu and rossi

[limpid forge]

i'd rather the gacha have no pity and we get a 10-30pull on premium every 2-3 patches that guarantees atleast 1 purple rarity outfit

[devout steeple]

But ik it's the big unreal engine one

[limpid forge]

they release 3 new every patch anyway

[mystic smelt]

given both physical that's looking like on fielder

[limpid forge]

🥀

[mystic smelt]

oh mc

[thorn sun]

yes but you're the consumer, you naturally want things that benefit you without paying
and hoyo wants you to pay, so they're not gonna give that to the consumers

[mystic smelt]

ngl i do think it's a bit early to replace endmin in a team

[proud tusk]

I don't think so
given their budget and resources they're not really the type to cut resources from existing project and shift focus to a new one

especially when the said project is one of the main project of the company

[mystic smelt]

but then again new endgame

[vapid current]

my faith is low man. pre-natlan I had a different view on how this company handles game design specifically. If it's really an MMO. First thing, I don't believe Hoyo is capable of understanding games don't have to be gachas, so it'd be an MMO gacha which sounds horrendous

[mystic smelt]

might warrant getting mi fu

[limpid forge]

btw is this a valid nitpick complaint?

it's getting real annoying that we never get the eyecolors for the free sets for the 20 day login

[mystic smelt]

aw that's depressing

anyway

[vapid current]

and I think what I have seen and understand of their other games, their design of an actualised "endgame" is not good.

[thorn sun]

still not sure why that cn dress makes manekina's hips look wide af ngl

[plain portal]

It's called a feature

[thorn sun]

like dude wtf

huh

[mystic smelt]

oh this bbl dress is this free

[thorn sun]

no it's paid

[oblique ermine]

What the hell

[limpid forge]

hmm

[limpid forge]

oh THIS ?

wata fak man

[proud tusk]

Mifu and rossi kinda works togather
Mifu team need a lot of Vul, and Rossi just so happen to do that

Rossi kinda replace Chen and Mifu replace MC

Mifu overall just has more QoL than MC before considering the dmg

[mystic smelt]

watch them use this as a tester for a future character with this proportion

[thorn sun]

op dress

[mystic smelt]

yea, maybe it's the satisfaction level in me but the 1.0 physical team feels so complete

[thorn sun]

dont need to, varesa exists

[devout steeple]

Hoyo is tits over ass kinda company

[mystic smelt]

especially if you got lucky with the premiums

[devout steeple]

I doubt

They giving us a lantina booty character

[mystic smelt]

varesa is kind of a different case

think black swan

[mystic smelt]

they have us global passive black swan

they'll do it again

[thorn sun]

also this pose doesnt help

[proud tusk]

Hoyo is better when it comes to visual and narrative (to an extend)
but when it comes to game design I don't think they are as good as people think they are

the 3 games that they announced this year imo kinda feels like they have fallen off from what they have initially achieved with GI

[limpid forge]

ever seen llama?

[cosmic kernel]

Welp, it looks like that Ye Shun and Random Kid could be rerunning for 3.0

[thorn sun]

isn't the dahlia the latest "powercreep" in this regard

[mystic smelt]

different proportion unit

[thorn sun]

i havnt kept up with hsr at all

[limpid forge]

aah for medium you mean

[mystic smelt]

i was talking about characters who's hip ratio is bigger

like hip heavy unit by design

[proud tusk]

I personally don't like the 1.0 phys team
imo phys still feels like they lack a lot of synergy that other teams have

lightning team imo is the most complete one

[thorn sun]

think lauma wins in genshin

handily tbh

[mystic smelt]

genshin has a new trend where they focus more on making characters look leggy

[thorn sun]

lauma just wins everything ngl

[mystic smelt]

lauma is like tall tall woman proportions ngl

[molten ermine]

bruh wdym sunday already got a novaflare

[plain portal]

If lauma can survive nod krai winters surely somewhere in snexhnaya there's another....

[mystic smelt]

true iirc i lucked out on getting p1 lifeng that made the team feel better

but then again that's like another factor: a lot of the 1.0 premium physical is standard

[dusty pollen]

?

What

[thorn sun]

genetically engineered by hyperboreans to survive in any weather while wearing skimpy outfits, true and real

[crimson oasis]

this is such a jojo moment

[mystic smelt]

it's easy to make limited variants but factoring that there's already people with p1 and above

[molten ermine]

@fading cypress come back I miss you

[proud tusk]

Lifeng isn't as useful
probably even more so for Mifu, cuz she has built it Phys susceptibility

[limpid forge]

i just realized how tight the fit is rn with my venti

he's my first 5* using my first 5* weapon. said weapon's aesthetics matches with his wings. and he's lending a skyward atlas to his top support there on the 4th slot

[mystic smelt]

yea lightning is fun

just got the bp sig for fangyi

[molten ermine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1tldfxa/next_batch_of_novaflare_buff_via_full_stop_chan/

[mystic smelt]

disagree

[plain portal]

Fraud stop chan hasn't this dude been wrong lots of time...

[thorn sun]

drip meta

[mystic smelt]

oh...they saw lingsha and fugue's resurgence with the dahlia and mblade and said fuck them

[dusty pollen]

Broooo

[limpid forge]

closest a f2p will ever get to full drip

aside from xiao

[thorn sun]

ive been using the kfc wings on chasca and mav for this very reason

[dusty pollen]

Too bad I quit hsr since last year

🥀

[crimson oasis]

how is sunday getting buffed before acheron

[molten ermine]

what's funnier is that Sunday is still good as hell 😭

[crimson oasis]

wtf

bro what

[molten ermine]

THAT'S THE THING

[crimson oasis]

?????

[mystic smelt]

4.4 having 2 new eruditions and an erudition novaflare

if this is not the herta upscale i would laugh

[proud tusk]

well lifeng already wasn't that useful before
his saving grace is that he is one of the few char that can provide phys sus

but now mifu has it, lifeng's value kinda just gone down pore

He still has Link, but most would lean towards using Akekuri for it since she does a lot more for the team than Lifeng

[crimson oasis]

maybe the jiaoqiu buff was the acheron buff we need

[plain portal]

Wasn't anaxa already an upscale....

[dusty pollen]

I wish Genshin had a case of "buffing an already good 5*"

[thorn sun]

kfc wings op

[mystic smelt]

again i disagree with lifeng's value given how i find the combos with his premium team good and he has other stuff like his ult grouping and damage to make him valuable

[dusty pollen]

Cyno and Yae Miko buffs are genuinely good though

[limpid forge]

damn. i want the hexadecatonic back on SO now

[mystic smelt]

ig with mifu you can do two physical teams

for the physical supremacists

[molten ermine]

genshin can't even give a free limited chars let alone said buff isn't locked to restriction wdye from them

[limpid forge]

they cool but imo the natlan gliders look better for them

[proud tusk]

yea he still feels good to play

I just mean in the overall meta there are better slots

[mystic smelt]

are you not up to date with hsr

[proud tusk]

not enough support for it

[thorn sun]

wings of soaring flame? nah looks bad

[proud tusk]

also there's no content that demands multiple teams yet

[molten ermine]

well the last limited char was Aloy but she's suck as hell so

[plain portal]

I am it was joke lol
He was supposedly her support and she still underperformed

[dusty pollen]

Sure but I'd take the extent of Genshin buffs over HSR

[limpid forge]

the bronze thing is p ugly yea but it doesn't bring it down imo

[mystic smelt]

mifu rossi akekuri flex
endmin pog chen flex

[vapid current]

||insane. why is alice trolling a 12 year old. dont u have an actual job.||

[dusty pollen]

Esp. since Genshin also did do weapon buff

[thorn sun]

nah is uggo imo

[dusty pollen]

HSR just don't do it for some reason

[limpid forge]

the white stands out too much for me

amber would love it tho

everything looks ass for her

[thorn sun]

who?

[proud tusk]

could work
but then again, the game right now doesn't really need you to have multiple teams yet

so there is kinda 0 reason to have 2 phys team

[thorn sun]

havnt used amber in like 4 years

[mystic smelt]

give and take ig

hsr and zzz buffs are very independent but disregards their sig for buffing

genshin buffs both sig and character, but gives them ties to faction/new reactions

[limpid forge]

times like these i just appreciate getting this one for free which looks decent on prolly 90% of chars

[molten ermine]

fair, hsr meta shifts fast
though recent meta has been healthy lately, which is sus

[dusty pollen]

IMO I'd take what genshin does, because it gives new life into the existing units

[vapid current]

i still dont have these wings

lol

[thorn sun]

it's ok ya

[limpid forge]

league of legends?

[mystic smelt]

yea and honestly that's my point in why i didn't get rossi and definitely mifu

do i really need a physical upgrade with what i have now or a second physical team

[vapid current]

yeah

[limpid forge]

https://tenor.com/rdSv3uje6WJ.gif

[thorn sun]

starlit feast is nice for blue units

[mystic smelt]

it's easier to justify investing in a new element to me

[dusty pollen]

I wonder if they heard the complaint? HSR slowed down in 4.x which feels like they're healing, but it feels too late for me

[mystic smelt]

like we don't have a true nature dps right

[thorn sun]

blu

[proud tusk]

I'd say rossi is definitely a better picks than mifu

at least for now

Rossi's best team on her own is actually heat nuke team
she is like the best nuke character right now

[dusty pollen]

They started doing more frequent single 5* banner which is best news imo

Hated them spamming double 5* banner

[limpid forge]

lmao venti can 1 cycle kongamato now

daaaamn

[dusty pollen]

I rather stable schedule like genshin

[proud tusk]

meanwhile Mifu is actually just phys upgrade

[limpid forge]

and i'm nowhere close to satisfied with either durin or venti's builds

and nicole isn't even built

[thorn sun]

nicole op

[mystic smelt]

heat - laev
physical - mi fu(?)/rossi
electric - fangyi
cryo- who's the girl again i forgot

[limpid forge]

pull

[limpid forge]

yvonne and last rite

[dusty pollen]

Anastasya the Tsaritsa

/j

[mystic smelt]

they already filled the premium limited carry ig

[devout steeple]

How did you get that

[thorn sun]

buh

[mystic smelt]

yas

[thorn sun]

limited paid thing

was available in the shop during fontaine

[limpid forge]

heat - gilberta
physical - gilberta
electric - gilbertafangyi
cryo- gilberta
future nature- gilberta

[limpid forge]

kinda punches your eyes ngl

[mystic smelt]

me getting gilberta in laev banner was a blessing in disguise

[thorn sun]

i actually havnt done drip optimization for linnea

[mystic smelt]

it feels like the equivalent of getting columbina in flins' banner

why is she everywhere

[limpid forge]

oh btw time to flex

some freaking how i ended up with p1 laev p1 gil p1 yvonne p1 tangtang

[proud tusk]

heat- rossi (laev if AOE)
Physical team right now is technically rossi still, Rossi would benefit Mifu anyway

[limpid forge]

would be funny if when i pull for mifu or vampyboi i get p1 fangyi too

[proud tusk]

laev single target DPS is kinda not good

[mystic smelt]

oh yea i forgot rossi has conversion shenanigans so she might benefit from Camille too

[thorn sun]

actually wait no, starlit feast were the pizza hut limited code thing during fontaine, not the shop wings

[proud tusk]

her team also has a major problem with SP so

[limpid forge]

ardibrother inflicts 4 heat stacks with one skill. real. trust

[thorn sun]

starlit feast wings were ANNOYING to get holy shit

[limpid forge]

[mystic smelt]

okay endfield i get you now

[thorn sun]

the paid wings are the uh, black space ones

these

[mystic smelt]

rossi ending up being the only pseudo dual element carry like i did not see the vision

but then again we are blind in this game @proud tusk the lack of leaks makes future planning out the window

[proud tusk]

not as much i think

Rossi's team is very SP efficient to begin with, that's why most of her team has no vanguard

Unless Camille comes with other stuff that would directly buff her dmg I don't think he is as big of an upgrade for her

[limber heath]

about The HSR X UBW Collab
that's not Rin, that's Ishtar for sure

[limpid forge]

if you told me in 2024 that venti would be buffed and would be able to 2cycle whatever hp that boss has (if it didn't get res) i'd slap you

a f2p venti who's not even built completely yet

[thorn sun]

"our little secret!"
mercilessly kills stray animals

[mystic smelt]

okay...that sounds more interesting

gosh this is very funny like discoveries like these makes leaks important to me

[cosmic kernel]

Guys, what is Hoyo doing with Norma? They are sabotaging their "audience" character

[sinful wigeon]

Another line of hers being "I live within you" like whatever that means. Okay Mufasa

[limpid forge]

nicola coco. what a silly goose

[proud tusk]

yea leak is just non existance in the game
so a lot of things we can only know when the update drops

rossi despite being phys and heat dmg, her personal dmg is heavily lean towards heat more

[thorn sun]

i just like it tho ngl
it's such a comfy line

[mystic smelt]

imagine if we had proper beta leaks like people would be so mad with rossi because of her flexibility

instead she suffered a delayed positive because it took people days after release to figure her out

[thorn sun]

when she gets to yap for one (1) minute uninterrupted

[mystic smelt]

also this means my future endfield plans should be focused on getting units like Rossi

[limpid forge]

[limpid forge]

not even 0.000000000001% of her lifespan

[thorn sun]

also she giggles all the time

bro why did hoyo do this to me

[proud tusk]

rossi isn't really that flexible
her synergy is quite weird

but she is definitely strong still

[thorn sun]

screw you hoyo

[limpid forge]

just pull bro

don't think

just pull

it's nicola

[mystic smelt]

i was catching up to opinions on endfield tc and i heard she's very flexible

but then again that's why i was asking people who play endfield too on how is she in practice

[stone portal]

@limpid galleon take this with a slight grain of salt cuz novaflare leaks change often but

Your goat is here

[mystic smelt]

ngl they really need to make these novaflares faster like luocha and fu xuan when

[limpid forge]

https://tenor.com/mGTPMITlOiV.gif

[dusty pollen]

Is this about endfield

[limpid forge]

btw are the new echo trials any difficult?

[mystic smelt]

yea leaks are dead in endfield so not a lot of meta tc conversations i see

[thorn sun]

hoyo when they spend 10 times more effort making nicole cute and adorable before butchering her kit at c0

[limpid forge]

i have good builds but ts is crazy sometimes

[mystic smelt]

people are just... guessing how the game will go given how they handled the original game

[dusty pollen]

No offense but the devs being aggressive about leaks actually make me disinterested, like a genuine turn off

What's all this effort even for, anyways?

[sinful wigeon]

En Nicole is so giggly

God bless

[thorn sun]

"how DARE YOU market our game for free?!"

[dusty pollen]

Idm NTE not having as much leak bc they have 1 week clairvoyance

[vapid current]

they all are

[thorn sun]

she giggles when she RUNS AROUND

like BRO

[vapid current]

what happened to not being able to speak...

[limpid forge]

she's p strong kit tho. esp for me chasca. i havne't tested in dps lab yet coz she's not even levelled artifacts but allegedly she shouldbe 30% better than beneny citlali furi team acc to optimizer (tho my strongest team is a benney iansan furi iirc)

[plain portal]

I'm still salty

[vapid current]

why u giggling

[sinful wigeon]

I don't think as much no? I've only compared to jp

[mystic smelt]

i think it sets the tone on what game they want endfield to be, especially how a lot of the 6 stars units are good like

[dusty pollen]

Hehehehe

[thorn sun]

nicole existing: GIGGLES

[oblique ermine]

Ohohohoho

[vapid current]

oh. I've not listened to EN specifically, but I've used both KR and CN

[limpid forge]

try giggleing wihtout using your mouth.

you can

[sinful wigeon]

My iconic giggly queen

[vapid current]

and like, every 2nd step she is giggling

[oblique ermine]

True

[mystic smelt]

they don't care if nicole is good with chasca

that's why they think her kit is butchered

[thorn sun]

fr

[wet leaf]

Nicole doomposters are usually poor or don't understand nuance

[limpid forge]

but fr there was no harm in making her 1% better than benney dawgg

[wet leaf]

It only takes c1-c2 nicole to powercreep bennett usually

[limpid forge]

😭

[dusty pollen]

I think if Endfield falls off, the aggressive leak hunting will be a factor

[proud tusk]

imo she is abit weird of a character

in her nuke team her phys stacks are mostly useless, the only few instance where it's useful is with Gilberta since her burst gets bonus buff based on the amount of vul stack the enemies has
if you want to play her in a phys team, you will need a character that can apply element infliction which is any synergy with the full phys team right now and it can become quite sp hungry

Mifu kinda fixed that, since she has phys sus, so you can drop lifeng for someone who can apply elemental infliction to make Rossi work

[oblique ermine]

She's just an e bot for non hex which is already better than Bennett

[mystic smelt]

a support's flexibility is irrelevant if it does not concern units they care for and honestly that's fine

[wet leaf]

And bennett (amp teams) are very strong

[limpid forge]

at c0r0

[dusty pollen]

At least og arknights had 6 month clairvoyance

[wet leaf]

She's good for mav

Long term

[limpid forge]

none of the units she benefits are REMOTELY close to 200k dps zybau anyway

[wet leaf]

Mav is

[thorn sun]

this is the issue

[dusty pollen]

zybau 😭

[wet leaf]

If you play correctly

[mystic smelt]

again as i said if the units Nicole is good with are characters they don't like then her value is irrelevant to them

regardless of how powerful her buffs are

[vapid current]

the issue is that we don't have more teams that are as good as zibai? no i think that's actually a good thing

[limpid forge]

shh we don't talk about ecqcdcccf3dcfdcfcdcc

[dusty pollen]

Sounds like twitter/tiktok behavior

[vapid current]

We can keep zibai as the ceiling for a while please

[sinful wigeon]

Nicole is at least a slight increase on my Arle OL team ig

[plain portal]

You just don't understand the struggle
It's the fact that the only character that use benny boy on my account is fucking Mav
Nicole just don't have a home I'm afraid

[thorn sun]

shoulda left her at 150k smh

linnea why'd you have to be so op

[dusty pollen]

Should tsaritsa hit that ceiling?

[oblique ermine]

Yeah

[proud tusk]

leaks can also bring a lot of negative impact let's be real

just look at with all the gacha with leaks
every backlash starts with leaks

[vapid current]

im not just saying this because I have full zibai premium

[thorn sun]

the reason linnea was able to powercreep so much

[wet leaf]

What do most people like anyway lol

[oblique ermine]

Sonset

[dusty pollen]

I tried to do 50/50 linnea, lost to tighnari. So now i full save for Sandrone

[wet leaf]

Because she works in plenty of teams

[limpid forge]

they really REALLY avoided 67

[dusty pollen]

I'm zibailess

[sinful wigeon]

Probably teams that breach the 130k benchmark

[vapid current]

when i get my nicole actually built, I'll try her out in more stuff.

[thorn sun]

"best i can do is 3 more weeks" - hoyo

[mystic smelt]

i think you just don't gaf about the units she buffs because why are you chasing zibai's best team anyway

[vapid current]

this is my current scuffed no set just random artifacts.

she just wants atk right

[thorn sun]

nicole? yeah

[limpid forge]

but i don't ahve zybau

[vapid current]

atk and ER

[sinful wigeon]

She's so artifact friendly

[thorn sun]

she wants ER if ur building a hex team

[wet leaf]

I think the issue is mav wants c3 r1 and c2 citlali before nicole

[vapid current]

yeah, sick

so I just need to chase these stats but on set

[mystic smelt]

interesting so mifu + rossi now leans more physical or do you play the two with heat supoorts

[thorn sun]

giggle meta

[vapid current]

Alice The Riddler
Nicole The Giggler

[mystic smelt]

it shows

[thorn sun]

nicole is literally the full of whimsy meme

[vapid current]

Alice is also a giggler too. she will be laughing as she blows up the hilichurls

[thorn sun]

because she rly is

[limpid forge]

oh that was p easy. 1st try and i didn't even have the full buffs

[vapid current]

i dumbed it and failed once

[mystic smelt]

istg when people get into the dps check doomposting i often wonder if they even play a lunar team in the first place

like you're not realistically getting two premium lunar teams unless you can split columbina in half 😭

[thorn sun]

local hilichurl when alice pulls a prank on them (they all died)

[proud tusk]

you need someone who can apply art infliction at least

right now the plan is either Mifu, Rosi, Ake and Pog

or what I'm more interested in is Mifu, Rossi, Gil, Perlica

the later one is leaning more towards hybrid dual dps team

[limpid forge]

welp. now time for wanderer. bichass game is defo gonna give me a c0 faruzan or smth i'm 99% sure

[mystic smelt]

okay i do have gil perlica

and the best thing about endfield is i can possibly get mifu on a latter banner as a rate up

[limpid forge]

oh. 🗿

noone

[vapid current]

my 2 lunar teams be like (nefer one is more for overworld rn but its still funny)

[proud tusk]

right now they seems to rerun pretty quickly anyway

[wet leaf]

Ikr? These doomposters are larpers I swear, they only do menacing/fearless SO

[vapid current]

the primordial giggler gave her the power to exclusively giggle, but not speak

[mystic smelt]

honestly imo those are two good teams

but the dps purists here, they'd shit on the second team and honestly if people are sticking with that high of a standard then you really should just get zibai and be a sweaty mavuika combo player and don't even stress at the other teams anymore

[thorn sun]

psychic giggling

[mystic smelt]

it's the zajef effect

[sinful wigeon]

Speaking of

[mystic smelt]

when you measure your expectations on a character strength with them being a so dire clearer it definitely makes the conversation different

[plain portal]

That's the beauty of getting zibai she doesn't care about columbina as much as others

[wet leaf]

She does care

[sinful wigeon]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2057193776850817502

God Turn Me Into a Reason to Get Out of the House (@motorbags)

OKAY.

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 20, 2026, 8:16 PM

[wet leaf]

Zibai without columbo is around 157k dps in kqms

With columbus she's 180k

[mystic smelt]

and you're getting 200k dps on her without Columbina? assuming you have c6 illuga though?

[thorn sun]

ok that actually looks annoying af ngl

[wet leaf]

That is a massive difference

[mystic smelt]

exactly

[long lance]

I just spent like 20 mins on the rhythm game

was really fun though

[thorn sun]

im getting 196k with c0r0 zibai bina linnea c6 illuga

3-star weapons

[mystic smelt]

they were talking no bina

[thorn sun]

oh

[vapid current]

already loving the QoL over benny

[devout steeple]

Lowkey i'd say nicole is pretty nice

[vapid current]

if you play klee, its so nice

[limpid forge]

yea nicola is good

[thorn sun]

yeah but who tf plays klee...

[mystic smelt]

you want that metaslave slave zibai team you get the fucking exodia

[vapid current]

like, you CANNOT stay in benny circle realistically in a klee team

[devout steeple]

I like playing dps venti now

[plain portal]

C6 illuga and linnea are more important for her yes
You can use aino or yelan in place of columbina

It's not like nefer where you get extra mileage from using columbina where you can use lauma hold e now

[devout steeple]

I stay alive

Better

[vapid current]

she's as good as varka now

[limpid forge]

nicola is good. she's just not op like investing in zybau team.

[vapid current]

and she will get a buff when Alice comes out

[thorn sun]

i know
it's obscene how big a buff she got

like actually craaazy

[mystic smelt]

again i'm more annoyed at the dps purists who shit on everyone who's not zibai like even i know zibai ended up as the top team for the game as of the moment

[sinful wigeon]

If Alice comes out 💔

[thorn sun]

alice is actually a subdps for klee

[vapid current]

Alice in 8.0 with solar reactions

[thorn sun]

and the final team is klee alice nicole durin

[mystic smelt]

but that doesn't make everyone else irrelevant like dawg this isn't a game with a one team endgame why the fuck are you so deadset on one team

[wet leaf]

Being a meta slave entails using a lunar slop team, a mav team and something else

[plain portal]

But do those dps purist know that literally one one is on zibai level (f2p meta anyway)

[wet leaf]

Doomposting non zibai teams doesn't make sense yet

[vapid current]

Do you think we will get like, actual KH units tho. Like realistically

Is there enough to fill a roster

[wet leaf]

We only have one lunar bundle per SO

[mystic smelt]

they already moved on to sandrone

expect more of that doomposting to transfer to her once v3 is out

[plain portal]

Yeah not like anyones beating her right now so what are you even complaining for

[limpid forge]

his b*tchass is here wtf

[mystic smelt]

who tf is one one

[limpid forge]

atleast it was easily doable with my lost prayer mochi

[plain portal]

Uh no one I meant to say

[vapid current]

Rerir is a possibility, I can give you that now. I think Hoyo can make any excuse they want to get him out of the moon realm w/e, and they have kinda justified him in a way to playable. Dain obv. Rhine would maybe fall under that gimmick, but even then, it's a 50/50.

anyone else I have big doubts

[thorn sun]

nobody is doomposting her here as far as ive seen
im not saying shes bad, she isnt
but she isnt what i wanted out of her, which is why im disappointed

[vapid current]

1 guaranteed (Dain), 2 likely slot ins. that's rly all we got. Maybe we can get an expanded idea after Snez story

[thorn sun]

that's all

[long lance]

sandrone will be good, just wait for vod

[vapid current]

and I could give like, 1% possibility to Hrop given we dont know much about him

😭

[mystic smelt]

yea still kind of the annoying part with these thought Olympics about the meta, even if zibai's team is bar none the strongest, it doesn't mean you only need that team to survive endgame

[limpid forge]

btw what's next IT elements?

would be a shame if no pyro 💀

[mystic smelt]

how do i say it

lemme use zzz ysg era

[thorn sun]

in fact, nicole might actually have received some of the best presentation work ever by hoyo

like, her EN VA is SO GOOD

it's better than the JP one

[mystic smelt]

iirc ysg is like, a league of her own, but you don't see people shit on other units in comparison TO her

[limpid forge]

zybau found bricked in a witch

[vapid current]

Oh wait. I forgot.

[limpid forge]

Eulasalute

[thorn sun]

zzz meta is way more fleeting tho

[vapid current]

Abyss sibling

I think that's a strong contender

[limpid forge]

meanwhile varka in this cycle:

[vapid current]

for playable

[mystic smelt]

like why the fuck would you compare promeia to ysg??? they're not even on the same team??? if your ysg is stronger there's three fucking teams needed???

[limpid forge]

releases with 1 or two whole outfits to boot

[vapid current]

and they have not used elemental abilities whenever we saw them

[mystic smelt]

doesn't make that an excuse to shit on other units that literally don't make sense for the love of doompost

[plain portal]

You don't have to go that far
Just say sure use zibai and ask now what about other two SO stages? Who's running there?

[vapid current]

So I'd say 4 good candidates. Yeah. I think if they just give us a couple new ones we don't know about, it's definitely possible

[thorn sun]

i dunno what ppl have said
but promeia kinda has an uphill battle with so many ppl owning miyaber

she is ever present

[mystic smelt]

yea, like ofc the whole varka era definitely is frustrating but i feel like it's definitely headache inducing that even nicole got shitted on for not elevating varka to zibai level

she wasn't made JUST for varka

[limpid forge]

dain is dain

ifl like with leyline stuff and loom stuff. capi has a 🤏 chance of playable in the future. heck maybe he becomes young or smth and has a handsome face too for the 💸

then sibling.

but with how they gave skirk the seven deadly serpent thing and made her a cryo. what would sibling be?
or just freely pick elements like traveler?

[thorn sun]

if they put nicole's extra 300 atk from her c2 into her base kit, nobody would complain

[limpid forge]

[mystic smelt]

they're not even pulling even if that's the case

[vapid current]

yeah. Capitano is possible too. We might have a roster on our hands.

[thorn sun]

i would

hell yeah

[limpid forge]

hoyo was like:

your banner is over. now

nerd_middle_finger

[mystic smelt]

because idt that would even put varka premium to zibai levels

[thorn sun]

it's the fact shes so specifically designed not to work with meta units that annoys me

[vapid current]

Sibling is gacha unit, and is just omega powercreep over traveler

[mystic smelt]

yes stay annoyed then

[limpid forge]

the fuckass 3 second anti mav bullshit dawggg

[thorn sun]

it wouldn't, which is why it would be reasonable to do

[limpid forge]

even one of chasca's ca suffers for it

[thorn sun]

yep

[limpid forge]

and arle who's also frontloaded

[sinful wigeon]

Yeah this actually my issue

[vapid current]

I'd say 1-2 more is a solid lineup, especially if they want to do like, a Khaenriahn gimmick to their kits.

[sinful wigeon]

For no reason lmfao

[limpid forge]

catagony

[mystic smelt]

when a unit is designed for flexibility and uplifting old units rather than a true wheelchair like I'm not mad if she can't turn c0 venti into lunar levels idk

[thorn sun]

just let nicole play nice with units, let her be comfy bennett

stop with this faction bullshit

[limpid forge]

it's not like casuals would be reaching zibai performance with mavcola if they didn't implement that 3sex

[mystic smelt]

like maybe my expectations isn't 200k pilled like some of you guys

[long lance]

just get c6

[plain portal]

It's specifically the units I pulled that doesn't want her atk buff and one that does aka Mav also don't care
Kinda wanted her to be universal but alas...

[sinful wigeon]

Uplifting old units is fun and dandy till HP inflation hits and these units aren't able to keep up despite the buffs

[thorn sun]

she wouldnt even be universal
she would just be a benny upscale, which is where she deserved to be

[limpid forge]

i don't think anyone is happy about zybau reaching 200k. she should've stayed at 150k levels. maybe started off at 135k in bina banner and 160k with linnea since she has a dedicated lunar 4* unlike nefer/flins

[sinful wigeon]

Like my old units have cons

I can't imagine doing abyss or Stygian with c0r0 lmao

[mystic smelt]

i mean with that fucking logic every unit is doomed

[sinful wigeon]

I don't think a c0r0 venti with Nicole buff is gonna keep up

[vapid current]

stygian is quite easy

everything beyond diff 3 is bragging rights which dont actually matter

[limpid forge]

you guys imagine pierro ever being playable?

[plain portal]

It's honestly the hex passive where you have to get other hex in team that kills her for me
Even with current buff she'd work just for qol
I ain't pulling durin for her man

[sinful wigeon]

But what if Nicole had been designed to be able to let these old units keep up instead

[thorn sun]

yep

[limpid forge]

yea he might do spirals ST now sure but so above d4? not a chance

[mystic smelt]

and yet it's another case where people want new teams to catch up with the new dps ceiling and then when you get it it's another cycle of who gets left behind like it's just annoying af at this point

[sinful wigeon]

Why couldn't she have been that actual benny upscale like idk

[mystic smelt]

istg this was just last year mavuika

[limpid forge]

same mfs will complain about powercreep too

but nicola was done dirty

[thorn sun]

keep zibai at 150k
ditch the 3s rule on nicole
game fixed

that easy

[mystic smelt]

she is you just already doomed her with the future

[sinful wigeon]

She isn't though. At least not without R1 or cons. Lol

[plain portal]

If nicole didn't have hex passive I'd pull her for my varessa chevy team but as she is right now I can't

[mystic smelt]

zajef pilled opinion but that's fine

[sinful wigeon]

Shrugs we'll see her use case in the future then. Id be glad to be proven wrong

[thorn sun]

i would imagine her future use will be alice and alice only

as far as meta goes

[sinful wigeon]

If they release her from jail anytime soon

[mystic smelt]

this really is like a cycle at this point it's just the peak character differing

oh but the future hp inflation 😭

[thorn sun]

like imagine we're at the point that 4 cost teams can reach 300k
alice is among them, she'd probably use nicole right

[mystic smelt]

but what about dire stygian

[sinful wigeon]

Or get a new support

Lol

[plain portal]

Those future team must accommodate hex as well as whatever new reaction bundle wants
Hard to say she'll find much use...
Unless they extend hex teams with new units

[vapid current]

i think we dont need to invent a problem to be mad at. we can wait for the hp inflation and then get mad

[thorn sun]

barbeloth

[sinful wigeon]

Oh but I hurd

[limpid forge]

flins 145k coz he has sheilder and qol and easy to play
nefer at 150k coz no shielder and no healer even
zibai at 160k coz access to dedicated lunar 4*

mav from down from wherever to up to wherever
skirk at 145k
varka at 145k coz he has shielder nicola
lohen at 140k or smth idk
zybau without linnea releasing at 135k or smth.
even mualani is like 140k as a older unit
i think varesa was alr 135+k with durin?

everything would be fine if zybau was weaker on launch

[sinful wigeon]

[mystic smelt]

you already see people think like that here

[vapid current]

getting mad pre-emptively just is...

idk

[thorn sun]

yep, game fixed

[sinful wigeon]

Vape back on the menu true

I keep forgetting mua exists

[vapid current]

we can just treat her as the outlier she currently is.

hex teams are keeping up with NK non-zibai

[limpid forge]

sandrone releases at 105k dps with the new buffs
she gets electro 5* supp and she's 120k dps
she gets tsaritza supp and 4th slot always flex and she's 150k dps

ez

[mystic smelt]

yea but if your measure of meta viability is just stygian... well you get shit opinions like these ig

it's not even about just the kit and synergy itself it's just like hey new unit doesn't have zibai damage, trash

[vapid current]

SSC is looking promising with literally dogshit served on a plate for units rn

[limpid forge]

if you have c6 prune rn then might as well won the lottery like someone getting r1 gest or gust whatever that weap is on a 10 pull

[thorn sun]

exact position that mav was in a year ago

she was the meta then

and now shes barely keeping up with complex combos

[fading cypress]

Hii

[plain portal]

She still is if you can do combos yeah

[sinful wigeon]

I can't believe I really used to think she couldn't be powercrept

[fading cypress]

Long time no see indeed

[molten ermine]

OMG HIIIII

I MISS YOU ARTO

[limpid forge]

[fading cypress]

How have you been?