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Valid point
Something something my power is constantly leaking
bro is trying so hard to prove Rerir is not that strong even though it's literally what the story tells and shows us
what is bro trying to prove? 
it's a hypothetical, they're used in debates all the time
She ranked third tho for a reason right
I like how they portrayed rerir except the end
Right— made me mad i love her design i love how they teased her as this ethereal figure
They should've copied FF14 again for it
yeah i'm arguing that's not what the story showed us. That's what the characters SAID, but in terms of how Rerir actually performed, he's definitely not all that
she's ranked 3rd because there were 3 moons 🥁
BAHSBSJSBS
This is her weakest version
Before she defected from the Fatui, she fulfilled the Tsaritsa's "role" for her, which is why she is so severely depowered and needs the Traveller's Eternal Moon Marrow to sustain herself
I’m dead
Is this mike Tyson beefed up with abyss juice and nothing has been helpful in taking him out? Then yes
And your analogy doesn't even make sense because said "nuke" was the last resort anyway here for Rerir 
People be like: omg u made up a fanon version in ur head and mad she isn't that. Meanwhile there are the harbingers voice lines about her that make her out to be this scary woman
I think in the last AQ they basically said ||they ranked her 3rd out of “pity” and to simply make her happy and use her powers for other purposes, and her power is useful for other purposes (dottore’s intelligence) but shes pathetic on her own”||
Bro….
Whatever that task was it left her at what is probably weeks or at most months of kuuvahki to sustain her existence anymore
she was never called for any mission
Smh the problem is we dont seem to ever be able to see her in her previous form
Or can even know her previous form
she stayed in Fatui for awhile and just left
Alas we won't because well the next powerup she gets will take her beyond that state
well no, it's just what they had available as I said. They went from punches to a nuke(in this analogy). Whereas in reality, Mike tyson probably dies to any gun
Cryo Archon probably just wanted to keep Columbina under control/cage to monitor her because her power could affect her plan
Bro
Analogy fails cause Rerir ain't Mike Tyson
No she was, right before she defected she fulfilled the Tsaritsa's request, which drained her kuuvahki severely
It just wasn't Gnosis related
true he's more like a 10th grade wrestling champion
From the harbinger that was humming, smiling, and resting her head in the tombstone of her fallen harbinger so non-chalantly-she became this 
That's it, I'm putting you, a nuke and rerir in a room
Figure it out yourself
I was yapping but nobody else did so it felt awkward
U DID NOT SPEAK BRO.
I did
Or ot could be Gnosis related who knows, but not for acquiring one
Point is, Columbina did something with her powers for the Tsaritsa, and it was a huge strain, because it left her in the barely self-sustaining state we meet her in
You don't remember anything
Also true..
You remember "alright" and "yeah s" and nothing else
Alright
THEY ARE FUNNY GODDAMNIT.
Fair point
besides not all alchemy is created equal anyway. Durin and Albedo's alchemical power is likely far lower than rhinedottir's, despite being the same source.

That's not how alchemy works I think
What's Tsaritsa plotting anyway...
why is bro stating the obvious?
Waiting for traveler to show up at her door
Something probably.
Marrying me
Except if she's a bronya expy
We might become a harbinger who knows.
Tho the lore of the gnosis being her past lover and her wanting them cause of that is really cool it’d make it so unimpressive and such a futile reason to go through this entire plot that affected several nations
what?
Baiii cutie.
I wouldn't say bringing back another descender is futile
Goodd luck.
We are talking about a descender
Unfortunately that lore doesn't lore 🥀
But yeah that's one uhhh
Eh is she thinking shes bringing back a descender and everything that entitles or just bringing back her lover
are you dumb
Can't wait for all 4 descender to fight
Battle of descenders (traveler got one shot in the starting 1s) 
Assuming her lover is the third descender wouldn't both apply?
Unless the vessel isn't enough to bear the powers of a descender
Then oh well
he skipped Hiisi Island lore, forgive him
I love sending memes.
I'm so funny.
? Which part of lore
snow maiden is not the tsaritsa
the part wher Tsaritsa is not the only cryo archon
and the 3rd decenders died before the archon war
No I'm just used to good execution
you really are dumb then
Well he had to die b4 the archon war since that war is literally about fighting for his body pieces
Tsaritsa would be the daughter of the Tsar, and could have been alive for ages before she became Archon
She can predate the Archon war in theory
I will actually quit if we do that
Tsaritsa has only become Archon around 500 years ago
Yes but Tsaritsa doesn't need to have been born 500 years ago
then why we discussing about overthrowing the
tasrista
and it took her 2000 years to execute her plan for whatever reason?
I mean the Tsar rules the snowlands, she would have been just a princess
she has only stated collecting gnosis in the last few years
Because the vessel was identified
She could need to be in power to actually do something
The vessel was non existent if we predate even like
tsaritsa is more likely to have been motivated by the tsar's death than a supposed lover thousands of years ago
It'd prolly just been recent
hymns of the far north is simply talking about someone else
The Tsar only dies around the Cataclysm, waiting 500 years for whatever pieces she is waiting for to align isn't unreasonable
Plus right after the Cataclysm, she would have to focus on rebuilding Snezhnaya anyway
To have power and influence to gather the gnoses
people are just coping with their head canon now
yeah
it's a different person
And his name is JOHN CENAAAAAAAAAA.
it's not the tsaritsa
I don't necessarily believe or not believe in the theory
But there are plausible ways to align Tsaritsa snd the theory
Abs never interrupt me ever again.
Y'all acting like it is a logical impossibility is the real issue
You can dislike a theory and still not misrepresent it
Average TCL discussion.
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Hymns_of_the_Far_North#Vol._2
reading this might help
it's a dumb theory
and it's wrong
And I have stated my explanation for how it could also be explained to be the Tsaritsa
You are unwilling to acknowledge it and that's that
No use continuing further
It's not a theory I am very invested in anyway, I don't care to fight over how plausible it is
if it's the tsaritsa
what about the supposed char releasing in Luna VI (6.5)
Well that'll be revealed then, won't it
Ok you may have your problems with it but you cant call it 100% wrong as others cant 100% call it truth, ofc they wont disclose all this lore for us before the nation but theres many workarounds they could do, or simply have it be another char but also connected to her
Douma
Douma’s track record basically 
It's basically vague enough that it ends technically true
Why is he so cute in the post 😭
"Next playable character will have an elemental skill and an elemental burst" basically
thanks for the plumbing work
Zibai is anti-istaroth

Great to finally see you, Yelan!
||Ronova is a major hu tao buff||
Imagine having Ronova on the team and the enemies DON'T die instantly
was zibai created by istaroth
Bro only has power over his own death
i wish he'd use that power on himself
there's definitely a connection
what is this cope
I did notice the eye on his hands, is it related to ronova?
The next AQ will give him more than that
that is not true at all
okay and? when did Surtalogi create pocket universes, and when did Rerir destroy them? When did Vedrfolnir create civilizations??
wtf he whiplashing
@lyric fossil do you think zibai is alive
i dont recall any sinner aside from maybe Rhine, doing anything remotely close to what any of the Shades have done
Hmmm although i dont agree, i would still argue
Power ≠ Feats
maybe the heart thing was punishment
How can you claim they have the same powers if they don't have the same feats? What point of comparison do you use lol
after what egeria did
Even if they can, doesn't mean they will yk
Gold can create life too, like naberius
Plus we dk much abt either parties rn so
will zibai appear in nod krai main story
aren't they specifically operating outside of Teyvat in the Gods' Limit teaser? wasn't that the point?
i dont rly see what this means.
Get me one. Its hard to find one
so you're saying every shade has more power than the sinners by virtue of PO, but then every sinner has the same power as the shades
which is it?
🥀
okay so its not the same power
if it can't be used in the same manner, its not the same power.
why not
JOE MAMA
when? who??
Wait lemme pull up the source
Pi how about you get a job.
Ur more unemployed than me, like how is that even possible.
Get a part time job.
I don't got anything.

was your first source on this reddit?
No I've seen a lot of yt and discord comments abt it cuz apparently "nothing is interesting enough to battle" or something for him
And one of the shades was mentioned so
idk. im still not convinced the sinners are anything but cheap imitations of the shades.
especially bumrir
Facts.
what has he done other than make shadow hands
The sinners are like Temu version.
What do u think about the moons then
they are similar to the shades but they commanded different authorities is what I understand.
The Moon sisters are cuter.
||The doctor said reason life death time and space||
So they win.
Put a spoiler on this.
We haven't even seen them
Bro just straight up likes balls 😭
||yea but he is referring to the shades, no?||
Hey Moon is cute okay .
So the MOON SISTERS ARE DEFINITELY CUTE
Yeah he is.
||I'm actually not sure now, but given how he was seen controlling time, I'm guessing its the moons which had their powers stolen and given to the shades||
i really doubt he's talking about them
its more on the people who doubted him
cuz u know he's a fucking ||college dropout|| 💀
its a bit open to interpretation. u can take either meaning I guess
true
Very relatable Dottore.
Very relatable.
Lets see in the next patch
I would drop out of med too.
Bro was a dropout but still calls himself a doctor
Ts lowkey tuff.
he's so goated
gotta call himself The Doctor because he can't call himself Dr. Zandik
"Making fun of a college dropout in public".
what about the one that is both a sinner and shade
The Doctor ~of philosophy~
Exactly Women>Men.
HOW DO YOU MAKE THE TEXT FADED
I lost so much aura
like this.
You never had any.
-# like this
Not that, the low opacity one
Theres another one, which makes it half invisible
:(
-# what is he yapping about.
I just did
"-#".
I'm just so goated.
Thank you all
I'm the best person ever.
Cry about it.
i am
No choc gets 70% of the credit
No, I'm cuter so I get more credit.
You can debate that with choc
Nah I don't wanna talk to thatt guy.
He debates all the time.
This text is tiny 
He has more experience but I'm cuter.
Damn
this one is extra tiny
Ur wrong.
Teach me this spell too
But it's okay, I still love u.
-# this text is huge
"#".
I'm so cute.
You get 200% of the credit this time
surely you will not abuse this power
Hehe...
Does he know?.
did you assume sandrone's gender? mods get her ass 
Sandrone is an it
Woah woah woah.
I will expose u.
Plus Sandrone is a CLANKER, so any pronouns work.
woah woah woah
Sara has no opinion on the matter.
Thanks to @Kennie-Adventure for voicing Tails!
Footage from Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie (A.K.A. Sonic OVA)
@bright raven I need chocolate.
It's like 2 minutes long, i ain't watching allat.
entertain yourself while chat is dead
How about you entertain me?.
Do ur job as a husband/wife smh.
This chat is more dead than my dms wth.
Guys become alive.
no
No
i've resigned yesterday, ask one of the other 1000s to do it for me 
That's not how it works, youu need to do ur job now, no resignation whatsoever.
||fr tho stop calling me your husband
||
Fine :3.

i'm all for keeping a gag around but i got limits 
I get it dw <3.
how long until tga
tga?
What's tga.
the game awards
Uhhh a week or smth.
i dont
People watch streamer awards 🥀.
This is nothing compared to that.
The next ZZZ character is Gru from the Minions.
they might tease angels of delusion
I got no idea about ZZZ lore at all.
I just skipped through everything.

@lyric fossil do u know ZZZ lore.
no war.
damn i wanna pull for bina 
I have saved for so long
last banner I pulled was nefer

I wanna gacha already

joe mama
Mods you know what to do.
KEEP MOM MOM'S NAME OUTTA UR MOUTH 🗣️🔥🔥🔥.
Papa.
It's my balls!.
balls
Looks like Kiana
My balls!.
Share it with me cuz I'm gonna skip all of ZZZ remaining lore I have left.
Nah how about u explain.
Ur better than some youtubers.
You are expecting too much from me parker.
When you do get the finer details, do tell me.
in time like this, if only we could ask Nahida for help
she has the history of the world in her hand, she would know what changed compared to what Nicole remembers
DUDE I CAN DO THE SO
I'm so proud of you.
FUCK YES
asmoday looks like kiana
I DID IT
@deep niche hey 🅱️alls are u gonna pull banyue or shunguang
torn between them. kinda want both
do both 🔥
i cleared the generator with overload arle
actually works
the buff snapshots to Fischl
lmao that exploit was insane. i had flins and man, his jumps during mini burst and LEC was also buffed.
fischl too lol
i tried flins as well
but i dont deal enough dmg with him
i get like 5% hp left
arle was more consistent with the dmg so i just used her
thats also the prob with flins team
yk what lets gamble
flins rlly squishy
yup
so u cant weaken the attacks
what i did to dodge was just jump. not gliding not atking. just jump and leave it
that too
but i was stunned when i learnt abt the buff to fish and LEC for flins
like hell yeah
only found out about it in yt
Pull banyue cuzz balls.
since i was wondering what team to use for the boss
And ur all about balls.
cuz i got no plunge teams
same lol
legit the reason i wanted banyue. and also that he has 6 arms
We need to bring back baller for the meme reset.
DUDE
THAT WAS SOOO LONG BACK
lmfao aino way
P discrimination
bruh
she's just still columbina ingame
Like 4-5 years lmfao.
LMFAOOO
Crazy fact??.
Hi queen oomf
Friendship ended with Columbina, Sandrone is my new friend.
DUDE THIS IS REAL. I JUST CHECKED
he?
idk why m i surprised by a useless fact like this
check dn
P facing peak discrimination
Sandrone is a CLANKER, so all pronunciations are okay.
You check deez nuts
checking
Why is Unamusume so peak?.
yeah but she still went with her design, you gotta respect her decision
Papa.
who cares bout hsr
Does any character have a X in their name.
???
xiao?
xianyun
xianyun?
xilonen
xaio
Okay bro.
real
I have reading issues.
Xcheverouse
xoe mama
Zurina.
ajax
Who??.
hi queen they decorated the office w christmas decor omgg
im exploring
I wanna say something rude but I won't cuz ur having fun.
<3.
You like skeletons that much?.
dont say im exploring the 1900s
Weirdo.
Nah you already explored the 200bc, why 1900s.
YOU STARTED IT.
Can we ban chaos, she's too old.
Ban her regardless.
I don't wanna try you, you have like millions of years of experience.
ugh my boss is coming im gonna die 💔
You didn't die in millions of years, you'll be fine.
I don't know why I started hating on chaos.
But it's lowkey fun.
It's my balls.
Omggg I wish we could do it togetherrrrr, is it pretty like you?
oh there's a new liyue 4*
you're not pulling zibai?
What's stopping u?.
EMBRACE URSELF PARKER.
her playstyle is boring
also varka is right after her if he really is luna V
I'm just Columbina.
i need to do the AQ man
Why is Ronova so cute.
Yeah that's my full government name.
why are u pointing to yourself
Who's Yourself.
real

?
You promised thatt you would buy me chocolate.
?
Give me chocolate.
k
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h...
isn't that an old song
top 5 fruits tier list (including things considered fruits even if they technically arent)
nectarine
red guava
red grape
cantaloupe
mango
banana
Apple.
All of these are botanically fruit and would also likely be called as such culinarily
In botany, berries are a subcategory of fruits so any berry is still also a type of fruit
Grapes are botanically a berry, but also by extension a fruit
Culinarily at least here in Finland it's grouped up with "fruits" not really considered a "berry" like blueberry, raspberry etc.
Even though realistically it does share size similarity to "berries" but idk it's still somehow more landed as a "fruit" in public perception
The nerdism was already introduced to the conversation by the "technically" part so I am merely expanding on that
Urm actually 🤓.
illuga has had a couple mentions
Zibai has lore mentions they are just more obscure
She's supposed to be a mysterious Adeptus in lore, her being widely known and having lots of info available goes against her lore
I'm aware, I added that clarification when I asked elsewhere because someone wasn't sure whether to count their preferences.
average genshin player: whoo?
tbf that's most lantern rite chars aside from xianyun
Are we forgetting that Ningguang was a 1.0 character
Yixuan has BEEN in genshin
we knew baizhu but even he felt like he just slithered in instead than any hype or anything
Nah Ningguang is four star.
ig shenhe kinda came from nowhere, but everyone else got teased ahead of time iirc?
She's still Yixuan
Also Nod-Krai is likely to still get a few surprise charas like this, we have 2-4 unknown chara slots still for the region
Nope Yixuan is 5 star.
Lan Yan?
Also Gaming had no setup I swear
yeaa the divine damsel stuff had alot of promo right?
They were just there after their patch
fair, ig i just dismissed them since 4-stars
Mods nuke him for making a small mistake.
me when i argue which gacha character in the last 5 years is the first to use the millenia old chinese wuxia martial artist concept.
Does he know?.
not a mistake, i just don't think hoyo cares about selling 4-stars that much unless they're jahoder
just like how you never mentioned illuga who also got drip marketed today 
Mods nuke him regardless.
we had shenhe mentioned in voicelines iirc
not flins. i mean you
But you already used 4 stars in your argument "Illuga has mentions" you cannot suddenly exclude other 4 stars

gaming and lanyan i dont think were really mentioned anywhere. the only one that actually we knew about was yaoyao
and xianyun
i'm still bewildered that nikita was actually the male kinda nikita 
and xiao if u want to count him
coz depending on if alice is playable female starshnya could've also been a cool important playable char
Most 5 stars that were added after the region conclude kinda just showed up
Outside ofc the lore important ones
just xianyun teased for quite a while and baizhu coz dendro wasn't a thing right?
aside from them..
oh yea skirt
Ye baizhu was def cause dendro didn't exist yet xianyun was more of a additional idea
Like we still had old shenhe assets
Why not
avg f2p player when hoyo asks them to pull 6 random characters out of nowhere
we saw xianyun's human form p long before we got her playable tho
Which one is Starshyna Nikita
and the zhongli skin that was struck from history
illugawuga papa
Was the guizhong cutscene before xianyun
i.e the lightkeeper npc with a beard
yes
Escoffier ans Mizuki idt had anything in-game before their patch?
Let me check real quick
they're the same one
guizhong cutscene was when we first saw xianyun's design
No way it felt like it released same year atleast
Average TCL discussion.
i wasn't there for first lantern rite but if i'm not wrong
shenhe lantern rite
guizhong reveal lantern rite
xianyun launch lantern rite
hutao/adpts lantern rite
zibai
unless guizhong reveal wasn't lantern rite at all
Nvm it was a year after
u are probably thinking of the "Nice to finally meet you Yelan!" teaser where we saw young Madame Ping for the first time. which is before we saw Xianyun or Guizhong.
man why did we even stop getting playable madame pings now? 
it's been now 3 years almost. why stop now
because nobody cares about her
Tbh doesn't make sense for it character wise idk why they coping
and she had her moment in the story
it's p funny seeing it pop up in the leaks sub every year
She's satisfied being a granny
like they'd shamelessly powercreep the one remaining yaksha with another adepti we've mostly only seen as a granny as a plunge dps
nah only a random cow thicc girl can do that to him
I want Zibai cuz she's cute.
so rn im saving for varka
fr pls. is they really saying mememememme aura meme?
and deciding if I should gamble on durin/varesa
Huh.
I'm braindead.
imma just pull ineffa with no guarantees 
tho tbf i kinda hve a 2 limited 5* guarantee for that patch coz capturing radiance
if i lose 5050 on bina then ineffa from capturing
if i win 5050 then that means saving will be enough for guarantee ineffa
Does he know?.
Woman.
and in turn she locks bina in too
not beating the geo skirk allegations
stealing furina from my other teams
zibai would do the same for columbia
who came first? the mother or her child aah answer
on the one hand, she does seem like a decent geo dps and my account has literally 0 geo presence
me praying for navia somehow relevant.. somehow
on the other hand
0 explo
0 lore
random autoattacker kit
locks in the archon
Eron how are u a whale without any Geo.
skipping geo was how i accrued my fortune
like she gets added to free constellation selector before even her cons become severely outdated. even if her early cons aren't as good as furi/neuv/arle/clorinde early cons as is
Gold Roger had it all ahh 🥀.
i think she gets upgraded teams with bina
build noelle in the big 2026. real.
u can run chiori since u get geo constructs
Noelle is so cute.
no chiori for lhc benefits and no albedo for durian addition. 
no xianyun for plunge melt whatevs either 🫠
Xianyun rerun soon, trust the Process.
seems likely ye
I want more Men.
mf finally got his c6 gorou a couple months ago on my acc 😭
if i pulled zibai surely that'd be her fate too
c6 illuga when she's being wheelchaired by dainslef/rhinedottir core
you got flins and varka
yearly men allotment quota has been reached
request denied ❌
Varka gameplay is about to feel unreal.

I want more Men..
genshin move to unreal engine from unity? ?????
Unity mentioned??.
the difference is, itto was mid even when he launched
Absolute violation.
yea i have no idea what i was thinking when i pulled for him when he launched
him and ayato
he was fun to use
he indeed felt fun but playing around his energy req was mega aaah and so fun to do 0 damage 
whale for R5 SS or whale for sig
if varka is 6.4 then the king is almost here
c0 whiteblind user with c1 gorou and no albedo was p ass
reunion when
Triple T is coming for us all.
The conversation between them is gonna be funny.
Frederica in Dornman Port, we get Jean and Barbara and their mum. ||and hoyo will make up for there being no Alice and Klee interaction in the 1st patch where Alice physically shows up.||
oh i didnt do that yet
yes
i never said
they never see each other
we dont see it
"horse."
"dead."
"tummy"
"what the fuck."
"Shame died on the beach."
"Shame was busy getting freaky on a Friday".
actually tho that is khotun khan from tsushima
smth smth his troops were hungry and so he even sacrificed his own beloved horse to keep them fed
Chaos we did not ask for a face reveal.
u thikk im a bald white middle aged man?
bro that's disrespectful to the guy in the gif 
ABSOLUTE VIOLATION 🥀🥀.
@grand apex chaos called you thicc
I know I'm thick.
thicc with k's
That means more thickness.
doing durin sq and i just realized something
Does he know?.
natlan- nation of DRAGONS and the only significant dragons who're alive and well is just little one and chasca's mama/sis
saurians. not even the old advanced dragons. most we see is one corrupt one and a bunch of ai dragons.
mondstadt meanwhile outta nowhere now has 2 live dragon beings
I wanna have Dvalin as a pet.
liyue has one but he's senile and gone insane
I we're in ur prime like 2000 million years ago.
my face card never declines
Yeah we don't abuse the elderly.
Cuz it's too old to register.
bro was already old AF back then

well im abt to abuse u
WASNT HE LIKE 2KYEARS
Ragebaiting Chaos
THATS NOTHING FOR ZHONG
Ur way older.
We should make a youtuber channel called chaos getting ragebaited.
with all the recent lore i'm inclined to believe archon war zhongli is much much closer to current age than when he was born
<insert cleo patra to us vs cleopatra to the pyramids fact>
WHAT? Ok hold on archon war was 2k yrs ago. zhongli is 6k rn which meansohnvm

it ended 2k years ago
unc needs a break
You need a break unc.
how long did it last
it started a long time before that
you're proving your point. you've grown senile and forgotten the fact
we dont rly know exactly.
We all should gang up and jump Chaos.
how about i break ur skull SO U DONT HAVE TO THINK AND SAY NONSENSE AGAIN
yall are haters ong
HATERSSSS
u know what this means
How about ur skull? It's probably rotten.
i dunn wanna break any senile bones. count me out
Yeah the elderly are always amazing.
I mean you had like 200+ million years to practice.
Carefully, ur lungs are too old for that.
I'm a A1 hater.
nice job caring for the elderly
make a server. call it elderly care daycare. invite @knotty badge
and leave
2000 years ago is the described end date though
That's when the last Archon (aka Xbalanque) claimed the seat
@lyric fossil I need a favour.
Do this for me.
2.6 i think may relate to some event in mondstadt. not entirely sure
i would but my server cap is capped
I don't wanna create servers cuz I'm lowkey gay.
Triple T is coming.
discord is anti gay??
2.6 was chasm
lmao wolf man just stalled for 600 years/. wild
nah, archon war ended in some places earlier than others.
and like, im pretty sure sumeru didnt even rly have a war.
or archon war specifically
the gods all kinda just offed naturally 😭
as far as I'm aware, Deshret is the only one who was offered it directly. and then he just refused it.
crazier is me just realizing eleazar has existed for almost 2000 years actually and rukkha sacrificed her self 1500 years after that started
i dont think we have a date for it, do we?
Natlan didn't have an Archon war either
It and Sumeru basically just had one remaining candidate remaining through other means than Gods killing eachother
Fontaine also not really Archon war afaik? Remus was probably the candidate until gets himself and Remuria killed with the Phobos, and Celestia brings out the Egeria backup plan
yea.. that's what i mean by rukkha lived with elezar existing for 1500 years in a child form
her reducing into a child was right when around deshret brough forbidden knowledge and died and what not no?
oooh
right
yeah I guess. idk. I am kinda counting all the dragon vs human stuff as part of it, since it was a fight for authority.
rukkha was had 2 friends. one naturally died. other basically went insane. she even reduced into a child trying to unto 2nd friend's wrongs. she was so traumitized she even erased herself from existence 2000+ years after the fact 😭
It is a fight for authority but even the charactwrs describe it as not really archon war
Humans vs dragons is a pretty different from gods vs gods
wish we got more on thoth and gang. sumeru kinda really only has them for mythical kinda stuff aside from aranara
monds has a dragon and even witches and not
liyue has literal gods
inazuma has yokai
fontaine has this whole cute race of dragonborns
natlan has saurians
sumeru has aranara that 99% of the population don't even believe is real
yea ik every nation actually has literal god/archon too
witches arent rly a race. they're a title.
Fontaine has/had oceanids too (now hydro eidolons)
just mythical stuff i mean aside from humans and monsters
into their lore
wait what was archon war against
Ig it does have present day oceanids too cuz everyone who got primordial sea poisoned turned into one
But the original oceanids who didn't turn into humans left after the waters turned evil
it's in the name
i mean. Sumeru has the only proper alive sovereign (neuv is a bum)
i mean who were archons fighting
cn text implies azdaha is THE geo sovereign
apep is an OG
Authority over an area, against other gods
Either by killing other gods or driving them away
everyone else is a fraud who wouldn't be able to recognise nibelung
it was a basically musical chair
Zhongli kicked Orobashi out of his turf into Inazuma and then Ei scared Orobashi underwater
but thrones in this case and prize was elemental authority
then celestia/nibelung nonsense scared orobasi out of underwater and rip 
bro deserves justice
bro was just a chill dude chilling around with his people underwater coz he was chill like that. #justicefororobashi
Just remembered Azurelight description
The angels described here in order seem to be
Nicole
Nabu Malikata
Sybilla
Zibai
pls let that encounter be something more interesting than the traveller
it wont be. but pls let it be
white haired women?
no, its just a vibe
white haired liyue tall women and skirt vibe? 
The fandom wiki has a timeline compiling the notsble historical events
It doesn't have nearly everything but it has the most wide-reaching events in the history
Lord of the night instead of Nicole
Cause moonless night 
after the first 2 er rolls i was honestly rooting for it all to go into er and hp so that it was a good reroll candidate but game wont' even let me have one win here
yeah. Kin who will not return makes more sense for that too
I mean in a way any night is "moonless" since the moon is fake
But yeah I can see Yohualtecuhtin for the 1st one too
"Wandering" fits Nicole better tho
Since LoTN is well, not capable of much locomotion
Zibai one is interesting cause if you assume stagnant foreign land to be khanerria then the Angelica the one from perinheri could be attributed to her
She was also from liyue too
And called herself freedom which is associated with wind
Idk Nicole also seems to pay attention to her seelie peers based on you know what
||yeah but it also kinda proves they are able to return in a sense.||
The stagnant foreign land is Liyue still
"As for her, she had no choice but to be trapped within the shell of the starry sky, forced to tarry within this stagnant, foreign land, awaiting her mother's thousand threads, awaiting the erosion of hardy stone, awaiting the next encounter from beyond..."
This is how her life in Liyue is described in Springs of Hidden Jade
The one from perinheri also came from liyue and she talked about her God being dead which I assumed could be one of the moons
And her association with freedom
yeah. Stagnant foreign land is Liyue. Obvious relation between stagnant and rocks, but Liyue is also the longest standing nation as far as I'm aware
and its probably the most stable
and as far as adepti are concerned, nothing happens there.
Last lantern rite called the 8 adepts not being part of adepti
And now zibai is dripped to be adepti anyway 
I smell another en mistranslation
I can see it attributed to either
It's vague
It doesn't really have much distinct terminology unlike the other 3
Yeah it can be nicole too since the term used is wander
Although Lord of the night does wander night kingdom in a way
Nabu Malikata and sand
Sybilla and melody
Zibai and stagnant land
No the last part is a reference to Springs of Hidden Jade
@lyric fossil
Yes but well the Azurelight desc only has these 4 prophecies shown
I kinda don't think nicole factors in there since she got her original form after joining hex which makes it seeems like she doesn't actually suffer now does it? since she regained her desired form...
And prophecy is all about suffering
Yes that's the point
All 4 angels from the prophecy are supposed to suffer
But nicole is literally free now after joining hex
This makes me think it's Lord of the night still
I don't think Nicole is supposed to narratively be some angel who got off scot free
Would feel really shitty for her to just prosper while all angels wither away
It would fit the witches part since that's what they're shown to do
Fuck the system basically 
Wolfy gives insight into this with his story
Nicole's curse was unique among the angels, but her lost voice is her punishment
She lost that but retained more power + ability to choose her form
We dunno what was up with Nabu Malikata, didn't seem to lose any of these
Sybilla eventually withered into the golden bees so her curse was her lost form
Nabu also died while showing the forbidden knowledge to Deshret
Wolfy: Those boars who placed their heads on the scales became wolves, lizards, and snakes, leaving only their strength. Those who offered their muscles became rabbits, leaping three paces to a bound, instinctively guiding people to treasure.
Wolfy: But there was one boar who placed things evenly on both sides, until the rusted scale broke right down the middle...
Wolfy: And so she became a mute person — for she had placed her voice upon the scales as well.
She became something in that effect too
These are the three types of Angels Wolfy describes
Nicole got to keep her form because she spilled all the juicy lore
But the yap became too much so she lost her voice afterwards
The rabbits are the ones who turned into seelie obviously
Other animals ig are the ones who got to keep their consciousness and some power
And the boar/Nicole lost her voice
Too bad when nabu did the same she had to die
Hex privilege unfortunately
Tho the categorization is s bit odd, it makes it sound like everyone lost something equally
But obviously Nicole lost the least and seelies lost the most, losing both consciousness and form
Maybe Zibai chara stories will expand on what determined how an Angel ended up
If boars represent fallen angels
Then boar princess must be the first angel
Boar princess is also associated with boreus makes sense now
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You know I wonder what the fuck the Sinners think about Rerir
Bro joins their evil plan and then, from their point of view, does absolutely nothing for 500 years, leaves no trace anywhere😭
Yeah yeah we know 33 is very interesting.
Let the sink in.
i dont think they made a team
all them seprately obtained powers from beyond
for their own separate ambitions
bro was literally a nobody even when he got initiated. prolly the same
They do not give a fuck about Rerir prob.
....
They're not a team but like he got a huge ton of abyss power and they specifically expected him to join
But then as far as they are concerned, he does nothing with it
how are rest of sinners a "team"
It's not like they'd be concerned or smth but like they'd be confused about a dude who achieves ultimate power and just leaves no mark on the world unlike the rest
I don't think they care enough bro.
It's not about "caring" it's just curiosity
Ofc they would like to keep tabs on the powerful beings on Teyvat
True..
And Rerir disappearing right after acquiring the same abyss power they did would be a tad confusing and intriguing
tbf the other sinners also mostly just f-ed off.
only vedr started the abyss order
rhine created albedo and ate life
surtalogi literally was like f this planet and byebyed
yeah
their goals are beying our understanding
Surtalogi still left a mark, interacted with beings, Narwhal hanging around, Skirk sticking around
Exactly.
They are like too sexy for us.