Where u land on an alien planet
#・tc-lounge
dense lantern
devout steeple
That's getting nerfed
dense lantern
And u gotta go through each stage and u get a bunch of otems
solid dust
That's getting nerfed
love seeing mavuika getting crept..but why by random ass geo dps.. is it china buff??😭
sour rivet
actually zajef is hitting 190k with her
This is escoffier all over again where hoyo looks at a random character and go "yes, you will change the meta 
"
grand apex
Good.
solid dust
This is escoffier all over again where hoyo looks at a random character and go "...
this would literally change geo element to becoming top 1 dps team lol
slender sleet
Noooooooooooooo. i wanted to milk that drama
solid dust
its just flashbang lol
https://vxtwitter.com/chevroos/status/1996329534262743509?t=S4gU-nRoXxZa0uzArppqCw&s=19
dense lantern
its just flashbang lol
https://vxtwitter.com/chevroos/status/1996329534262743509...
I haven't updated my genshin who is this 💔💔💔
solid dust
I haven't updated my genshin who is this 💔💔💔
random ass new character. dont worry about it
dense lantern
random ass new character. dont worry about it
🔥
slender sleet
its just flashbang lol
https://vxtwitter.com/chevroos/status/1996329534262743509...
how is any of this shit "most creative" burst?? how thirsty are those simps??
brave lily
Finally built mauvika xilonen citali, what's her team again
Mauvika xilonen citali and
?
wooden forge
Bennett
buoyant ermine
how is any of this shit "most creative" burst?? how thirsty are those simps??
I think they’re being sarcastic
long lance
That's getting nerfed
not by much tbh
trail pier
I haven't updated my genshin who is this 💔💔💔
new 4* support for highest dps team in the game
long lance
she's still gonna be a top 5 dps
hot fiber
random ass new character. dont worry about it
not really new, but okay
dense lantern
new 4* support for highest dps team in the game
What da hail
trail pier
mavuika is shaking rn
solid dust
bro is so random he didn't even get a foreshadowing in nodkrai trailer.
long lance
he is mentioned in several of flin's character stories and voiced dialogue
solid dust
a lot of characters does. 
dense lantern
solid dust
even npcs get dialogues nowdays
trail pier
https://tenor.com/view/alice-alice-genshin-genshin-genshin-impact-alice-genshin-...
whos this
limpid forge
depends. if the original back when the adepts were a thing was an angel then maybe she's THE one. if hooman then like lanyan/tao.
limpid forge
omg dude. wake up. this is not genshin. this is irl.
long lance
depends. if the original back when the adepts were a thing was an angel then may...
wdym
we do know that it's her
limpid forge
oh then cool
long lance
wdym
tame tendon
has censorship laws goten more loose? i just realized why mona and others have censored outfits and then varesa exists
limpid forge
heck even i'm p6 and i have alot less messages sent
buoyant ermine
has censorship laws goten more loose? i just realized why mona and others have c...
They fired the guy
The one that made the law
limpid forge
prolly smth smth to do with the bot kicking me out once tho 
buoyant ermine
Because the gacha market got screwed or something
buoyant ermine
deadass? who was he and why he got fired?
Eron told me the lore but I don’t remember the details
limpid forge
has censorship laws goten more loose? i just realized why mona and others have c...
i thought that's why hoyo moved to singapore and whatnot?
buoyant ermine
deadass? who was he and why he got fired?
I think he got fired cause the law was bad for the games
tame tendon
did the law get passed?
limpid forge
that they were in china. therefore laws strict.
moved hq to singapore and voila. no need to follow them laws?
buoyant ermine
did the law get passed?
Yes because that’s why we got the censor, also reason why fontaine units except coffee are covered up
limpid forge
aah cognosphere is the one in singapore but hoyo still headquarter in shanghai so ig ignore everything i said?
limpid forge
Yes because that’s why we got the censor, also reason why fontaine units except ...
what happened 1 second after we finished fontaine aq tho?
like suddenly we get
i feel like even skirk's boobs area got enhanced that wouldn't exist back in that era
tame tendon
grand apex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctheRln_epI
Inazuma buff would be epic.
tame tendon
this is funny to me because they're definitely not gonna do a yokai faction buff first
that would mean ayaka and yoimiya get skipped and i think people would not like that
grand apex
that would mean ayaka and yoimiya get skipped and i think people would not like ...
As long as My mom gets a buff it's okayy.
sour rivet
that would mean ayaka and yoimiya get skipped and i think people would not like ...
Nah it's fine
They made razor a hexen but not lisa
Hoyo is just quirky
tame tendon
in 6.3 itto and gorou (i don't even think they're a yokai) will be fine
brave lily
Inazuma buff would be epic.
They would prolly get a nerf with all the china japan stuff going on
grand apex
They would prolly get a nerf with all the china japan stuff going on <:A_WheezeT...
Just leave my Mom out and it's okay <3.
sick raft
Ok sleepge time
Gn tcsus
opal bone
tcdn
vapid current
They made razor a hexen but not lisa
Keep in mind the reason for the buffs is just ||Alice going, "these guys are just weak as hell, can u just go and tell them to become stronger??"||
I imagine Inazuma would be the same, replace ||Alice with Raiden, and then Raiden herself goes, "heh. okay. time to get serious. I was only using 10% of my power before..."||
sour rivet
I imagine Inazuma would be the same, replace ||Alice with Raiden, and then Raide...
The arknights logic, I dig it
grand apex
Genshin fans after making the 20000th joke about Lauma's chest size 🥀🥀.
sour rivet
Genshin fans after making the 20000th joke about Lauma's chest size 🥀🥀.
Think of it as Lauma tanking the damage
Otherwise we would be flooded with Columbina feet jokes
grand apex
Otherwise we would be flooded with Columbina feet jokes
Lauma protecting Columbina as always..
So emotional vro.
limpid forge
this is funny to me because they're definitely not gonna do a yokai faction buff...
funny enough yokai buff also discounts raiden
don't own yae on my main but would love a buff that makes raiden/yae work actually well
ig we'll first have to see about fav faction. if albedo gets to double dip then chars like sara get to double dip in official business faction as well as yokai faction
limpid forge
ngl like klee getting optimizations to her base kit i could see a bunch of chars getting similar treatment
grand apex
Dealing 200m damage.
grand apex
ngl like klee getting optimizations to her base kit i could see a bunch of chars...
Puffin I was saying something.
Never ever interrupt me again.
limpid forge
fischl outdpsing her in teams that would want yae i p pathetic performance for the guuji yae 
limpid forge
Never ever interrupt me again.
grand apex
fischl outdpsing her in teams that would want yae i p pathetic performance for t...
Fischl needs to be killed.
I will do it myself.
limpid forge
reborn as a 5* frfr
grand apex
I'm going to mondstadt tomorrow and killing Fischl.
grand apex
I can destroy the whole mondstadt so it's not a problem.
Unless they give me Fischl.
They give me Fischl, only Fischl gets killed, if they don't, all of mondstadt gets destroyed.
tame tendon
6.3 is gonna make itto and gorou the best inazuman units unironically
grand apex
did i miss leaks? why 6.3? brb
Lunar crystallization ig?.
limpid forge
6.3 is gonna make itto and gorou the best inazuman units unironically
kuki hb still peak inazuma
grand apex
6.3 is gonna make itto and gorou the best inazuman units unironically
The 2 Itto mains are so happy rn.
tame tendon
lunar crystallize is the new hyperbloom, raw geo damage still dead
limpid forge
welp chiori should work without c1 with lhc so ig big chiori buff no?
tame tendon
noelle is probably already fine rn. due to role consolidation she has furina teams
limpid forge
HOW DO U SPELL NOELLE.
grand apex
I need to leave discord and study bro.
Being with @limpid forge just makes me dumber day by day.
deep niche
Noella Meta 🏳️⚧️.
Noelle albedo columbina fish
grand apex
until you reach 100% <:A_HuPensive:807551025942495274>
Dude ur gonna make me as dumb as patrick.
limpid forge
Dude ur gonna make me as dumb as patrick.
bruh you're going up from below patrick star
grand apex
Noelle albedo columbina fish
OH MY GOD GUYS, ITS UNCLE BALLS.
limpid forge
i see this as an absolute win
grand apex
bruh you're going up from below patrick star
I'm gonna rip ur spine out.
deep niche
sigh hav to farm golden troupe for albedo now
deep niche
OH MY GOD GUYS, ITS UNCLE BALLS.
balls
grand apex
*sigh* hav to farm golden troupe for albedo now
Work like a dog.
deep niche
Work like a dog.
Yup. But not in genshin. Farming is ez. But tedious
limpid forge
Noelle albedo columbina fish
btw do we know how lhc works with ec aura? smwhere someone said when ec aura it only produces electro shards
grand apex
Yup. But not in genshin. Farming is ez. But tedious
I hate the Golden Troupe domain.
limpid forge
we get lhc aand electro shards? just electro shards? just lhc? that guy was lying?
deep niche
btw do we know how lhc works with ec aura? smwhere someone said when ec aura it ...
Then we can replace fish with someother hex chara. Or hav noelle xilo furi bina
grand apex
What is bro yapping about.
tardy grove
What is bro yapping about.
something a lioness like you shouldn't concern yourself with
mystic smelt
oh god the pink girl in wuwa is elysiana grande
it's like if nanami and elysia had a baby
deep niche
they out to get me
Do miyabi monoice. The enemy maybe ice resistant, but not miyabi resistant
deep niche
oh god the pink girl in wuwa is elysiana grande
Who??
limpid forge
if zibai has that 180k big pp damage too then the powercreep is very real wtf
vapid current
if zibai has that 180k big pp damage too then the powercreep is very real wtf
i think ur probably gonna be running ZL anyway because her best f2p is HoD, and sig is not a large amount better
deep niche
HOLY WHO IS SHE
deep niche
if zibai has that 180k big pp damage too then the powercreep is very real wtf
nahh, noelle also provides the same shit, with healing that too
limpid forge
what did hoyo mean by this?
deep niche
what did hoyo mean by this? <:A_ThinkTao:808987776073596929>
nice
sinful wigeon
Every new shiyu is just a realisation that my miyabi is washed now wtf
deep niche
Every new shiyu is just a realisation that my miyabi is washed now wtf
wait why
she is still good
monoice still rocks
sinful wigeon
She feels like shit to play compared to my yx idk
Maybe I need yuzuha cuz...
This just ain't it bruh
slate beacon
why traveler got a new girl every patch
buoyant ermine
Cause Lumine is simply that girl
limpid forge
got me 🤯 for a sec there lmao
fr thought he was gonna get a 2nd drip marketing like furina or like lyney/lyette with 2nd outfit.
slate beacon
got me 🤯 for a sec there lmao
what is that
i literally couldnt tell by switching back and forth on the character screen
grand apex
i literally couldnt tell by switching back and forth on the character screen
It changes his horn and tail a tiny bit.
That's it.
slate beacon
bruh
long lance
columbina drip got delayed
thorn sun
neato
grand apex
grand apex
The microsecond we get a geo IT I'm cooked
That's a bad month.
grand apex
unless i get her ig
Or Sandrone.
thorn sun
well
thorn sun
it's 100% gonna be a hydro geo IT
long lance
did bina drip get delayed
grand apex
it's 100% gonna be a hydro geo IT
thorn sun
so uh
grand apex
thorn sun
does zibai have infinite IR?
grand apex
Now that I think about it, Sandrone is such a me character.
grand apex
Theyre literally us
True..
mossy geode
Ate it sorry
long lance
are they planning something?
grand apex
where is the columbina drip
Be patient vro.
grand apex
are they planning something?
Are u becoming schizophrenic again.
mossy geode
Me personally
mossy geode
it's 2 days after patch release
Why does this mean they have to be planning something
grand apex
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-cute-adorable-vaporeon-gif-17858020
You have a VAPOREON plushie too right?.
long lance
wait a sec
mossy geode
You have a VAPOREON plushie too right?.
Yes
long lance
i know what they're doing
mossy geode
My baby boy lucy
grand apex
My baby boy lucy
That's a cute name.
mossy geode
He's on top of my TV rn
grand apex
I would name my starter that next time i nuzlock a game.
mossy geode
With my arlecchino plush
mossy geode
I would name my starter that next time i nuzlock a game.
Hehehe
long lance
she hasn't dripped yet
grand apex
He's on top of my TV rn
I thought about putting something ontop of my TV once, but I was just too lazy and put em all ontop of my bed.
long lance
because the moon hasn't risen yet
grand apex
she hasn't dripped yet
It's okay bro.
mossy geode
My TV is on a giant desk and the way it's leaning against the wall has space for them to sit at the tap
Top
grand apex
Abs I'm genuinely concerned for u.
grand apex
Top
I'm actually too fucking short to reach the top of the TV so I have too manually get a chair to put something up there which pisses me off.
BEEE ME, ME BEEE.
deep niche
william afton??
mossy geode
I'm actually too fucking short to reach the top of the TV so I have too manually...
LOLLLL
long lance
will check then
grand apex
william afton??
Nah can't be afton.
grand apex
ROOM TOUR??.
deep niche
wtf
grand apex
HELL YEAAH.
mossy geode
ROOM TOUR??.
It's my living room
grand apex
https://tenor.com/view/catnap-smiling-critters-catnap-x-dogday-dogday-catnap-mem...
I forgot this guy existed.
mossy geode
grand apex
It's my living room
I forgot people actually have more rooms than the Bedroom.
Maybe I should go outside.
long lance
hoyo is very sus rn
grand apex
Cinema.
mossy geode
Still the best animation they've released
grand apex
I should get a pokemon plushie too, maybe piplup.
mossy geode
Natlan can eat a bomb
Mavuikas animation couldve been 4 minutes and given me the same amount of information
deep niche
oooohhhhhh
grand apex
Still the best animation they've released
It truly looks like a great anime ngl.
It looks like that one Yuri anime.
grand apex
The AI dub of Banana fish is so fucking funny.
grand apex
Dude like a Voice Actor barely costs something, y'all don't even pay them enough.
Using AI just ruins ur rep and Nobody cares about you anymore 🥀.
slate beacon
https://tenor.com/view/mwah-mwah-girls-kissing-ilysm-gif-3978772078228953130
AYOOO
someones gonna make crazy art of this
grand apex
Isn't that literally my pfp.
slate beacon
Isn't that literally my pfp.
HAHA
long lance
Natlan can eat a bomb
i'll fight you
slate beacon
you know ball
long lance
rn
grand apex
you know ball
Nah, compliment @mossy geode it was her idea.
frigid cipher
Wao
long lance
Leaks
mossy geode
i'll fight you
Didn't care for natlan animations
Again, mavuikas promo animation did not need to be the length it was
Boring as fuck
grand apex
THATS SO CUTE LMFAO.
long lance
that is an incorrect opinion
grand apex
Ineffa is a cheater.
mossy geode
Alright Abs
mossy geode
Ineffa was so silly here
frigid cipher
Someone really likes Miku.
Yes
long lance
Alright Abs
It is true
grand apex
It is true
Abs it's okay.
frigid cipher
I wanna buy this too if there is merch of it already
Well there’s more but I haven’t unboxed them yet
grand apex
Well there’s more but I haven’t unboxed them yet
But the Mesmerizer Miku if you don't have it already.
Or the Bunny one.
frigid cipher
But the Mesmerizer Miku if you don't have it already.
it's so dang expensive
$200 for teto & miku mesmerizer
these plushies, they cost me like $10-20 only
grand apex
good morning
Good morning Soru.
slate beacon
this fkin quest is too damn cute
grand apex
this fkin quest is too damn cute
I agree with this person.
slate beacon
waxen hull
Okay I don't usually care about spotify wrapped but this feels like an issue..
main dust
this fkin quest is too damn cute
which quest
grand apex
Okay I don't usually care about spotify wrapped but this feels like an issue..
Bro really likes Diana.
slate beacon
anyone know how long durin sq day 1 takes?
trail pier
anyone know how long durin sq day 1 takes?
pretty short
prob like 20 min or less
i think day 3 has been the longest one
vapid current
and you still wouldn't be able to read it
18 hours is impressive
how long did u spend looking for something to reply to
proud tusk
and you still wouldn't be able to read it
Sorry not interested in reading children's book
If I want something easy to read, Endfield is better at that anyway 
proud tusk
and you still wouldn't be able to read it
This is basically you guys but without the sarcasm
https://fxtwitter.com/monthlyilluga/status/1996378322457256210?t=nMmqvGk79N5d1gLl7MMVpA&s=19
vapid current
not very
waxen hull
AH FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME WHAT
I can't think of a single character in genshin that moves too much too fast to be readable
Yoimiya's flip is the closest and even that isn't bad
I speak as an animator myself, FOR ANIME GACHA GAMES on top of that, Wuthering Waves has some tragic readability
vapid current
It's very much a modern anime thing too. There's a lot of emphasis put on flashiness of whatever is going on
waxen hull
The characters in WuWa move too fast, don't carry momentum at all, wield heavy weapons like they're light as a feather and it just becomes excessive at a point
A comparison I like to draw is Jingliu or Eula
They wield large weapons with relative ease
However they're slow and calculated movements
Not SHING SHING SHING EVERYWHERE BOOM BOOM
vapid current
as the saying goes, hype and aura
waxen hull
Keqing's ult would look trash if she was using a claymore
That's what wuwa feels like
solid dust
genshin could never
https://x.com/ghosttaal/status/1996693404403773451?t=FPSW1Fh9DpImq8zrAT1BBw&s=19
X
waxen hull
as the saying goes, hype and aura
Arlecchino is proof that speed isn't required for hype and aura
Some of her most popular animations are simply a few steps of walking
vapid current
Keqing's ult is also centred. A big thing with wuwa is chars are moving across large parts of the screen
waxen hull
Micro > Macro
waxen hull
Keqing's ult is also centred. A big thing with wuwa is chars are moving across l...
That too
Even when wuwa animations rarely are good, the camerawork ruins it
grand apex
genshin could never
https://x.com/ghosttaal/status/1996693404403773451?t=FPSW1Fh...
This would've been so cool.
ornate quail
genshin could never
https://x.com/ghosttaal/status/1996693404403773451?t=FPSW1Fh...
this is so fire 💔
thorn sun
what tarot card you got?
Temperance
ornate quail
the fact he cant fly either lmaoo
solid dust
haha jokes on you genshin cant do that.
solid dust
default glider is too much work
waxen hull
https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-gacha-kuro-kuro-games-gif-2075021986...
Fucking tragic
The spin is too fast and she comes to a halt way too suddenly
No sense of momentum
Not even centered on the camera
Even being off-center is fine if she's AT LEAST on a third point but she isn't
limpid forge
Temperance
sand king follower huh
grand apex
@limpid forge I need urgent help.
limpid forge
Even being off-center is fine if she's AT LEAST on a third point but she isn't
fr you don't see this girl nor the domain she laid out properly
waxen hull
Also the sudden pan upwards isn't anticipated by leading lines or anything
It's unbelievable to be that these are PROFESSIONAL ANIMATORS
I love wuwa's character designs, the gameplay is fun, the worldbuilding isn't great but at least it's interesting
waxen hull
But god the animations kill it for me
waxen hull
https://tenor.com/view/brant-wuwa-brant-wuwa-wuwa-brant-wuthering-gif-1639983731...
Brant's ult is one of the best in my opinion because the momentum is carried appropriately
It's not great
But it's not bad
waxen hull
The effects at the bottom are a poor choice though
They draw attention away from the subject
waxen hull
https://tenor.com/view/zzz-yixuan-zenless-job-job-application-gif-13098558437833...
this IS my job buddy im an animator and cinematographer for anime gacha games
go on what about you
solid dust
waxen hull
There are a lot of issues with genshin's animations but none are quite as bad as some wuwa ones
solid dust
this IS my job buddy im an animator and cinematographer for anime gacha games
bro who hurt you lol.. i was just showing yixuan ass with meme tag
waxen hull
bro who hurt you lol.. i was just showing yixuan ass with meme tag
It's a meme that you usually... direct at someone 😭
particularly someone ranting about something that makes them sound jobless
soo
it looked targeted here
solid dust
shit showed up when i looked up zzz ult😭
waxen hull
ah
I love Yixuan's ult animations they're both amazing examples of cinematography and animation
My only issue with her is the excessive impact frames
vapid current
its not rly the ults. the ults are deliberately cinematic. its the normal attacks where they fly around.
waxen hull
its not rly the ults. the ults are deliberately cinematic. its the normal attack...
The ults in wuwa ARENT cinematic though that's part of my issue
The normal attacks are far worse though
It took me about 20 minutes to realise chisa was using scissors because every time i tried to analyse her animations she'd hit the border of the arena by moving too fast
Thats BAD
vapid current
yeah. I think they have been doing that a lot with the newer chars that I have seen.
limpid forge
dang i didn't know nefer was thicc like that. her body hip things clips into her thighs 😭
waxen hull
ZZZ characters move a lot but the movements they make aren't overly complex
like Yixuan as an example again
She might do a flip or teleport
In the same amount of time a wuwa character does 3 flips, dashes, teleports twice and leaps into the fucking sky
waxen hull
There's "fast" and theres "what the fuck was that"
solid dust
new wuwa character..the one they dropped trailer for
waxen hull
dang i didn't know nefer was thicc like that. her body hip things clips into her...
This irritates me mihoyo are quite bad at model optimisation sometimes
but their animations are hot so i dont mind
waxen hull
new wuwa character..the one they dropped trailer for
The pink haired one?
solid dust
hey they gotta reduce those polygons to run that shit on mobile
vale granite
cyrene coming to wuwa?
waxen hull
cyrene coming to wuwa?
no 😭
waxen hull
WAIT IS THAT JUST A CHANGLI SKIN
THATS NOT EVEN A NEW CHARACTER LMAOO
vapid current
dang i didn't know nefer was thicc like that. her body hip things clips into her...
X
limpid forge
why are we even discussing wuwa? genshin clearly superior and that's why we're here
-# well that goes for astleast 99% of us i think
limpid forge
https://x.com/naraemigenshin/status/1996398868830032003
waxen hull
why are we even discussing wuwa? genshin clearly superior and that's why we're h...
We're discussing what makes genshin superior specifically
limpid forge
looks like one of those 2012 memes
waxen hull
its not changli
vapid current
why are we even discussing wuwa? genshin clearly superior and that's why we're h...
fox was trying to ragebait by looking up a message I made 18 hrs ago on a different convo
waxen hull
why does she look like a changli skin
solid dust
WAIT IS THAT JUST A CHANGLI SKIN
THATS NOT EVEN A NEW CHARACTER LMAOO
same face syndrome
vale granite
We're discussing what makes genshin superior specifically
me like how even though wuwa story not that good compared to genshin at least they got people to experience avengers teamup cutscenes
waxen hull
BRO WAIT NO THIS IS COPIED FROM GENSHIN HANG ON
THIS IS STRAIGHT UP THE ANCIENT SACRED MOUNTAIN
vale granite
it not the best writing but fun experience
waxen hull
WHAT
THIS IS THE ANCIENT SACRED MOUNTAIN IS IT NOT??
THE THING YOU SHOOT THE BALL UP
tardy grove
that's khaneriah
solid dust
me like how even though wuwa story not that good compared to genshin at least th...
now lets talk bout how many actually had interaction with each other before avengers moment. 
avenger main charm is the goofy interaction between different superheroes.
vapid current
similar vibe, yeah
limpid forge
THIS IS THE ANCIENT SACRED MOUNTAIN IS IT NOT??
yea lul
waxen hull
similar vibe, yeah
NO NO LOOK AT THE RAMP TS THE SAME RAMP 😭
limpid forge
minus the flower things and i'd think it's some other volcano insides in genshin itself
wuwa steal that?
waxen hull
cyrene coming to wuwa?
apparently
limber heath
https://tenor.com/view/star-lord-marvel-avengers-infinitywar-meme-gif-14470076
master oogway
waxen hull
vale granite
now lets talk bout how many actually had interaction with each other before aven...
that why me say story not the best compared to genshin but they did team up against a world ending threat like the avengers do
imagine like in natlan if we had a cutscene of the 6 heroes fighting together against the dragon
limber heath
was it Tailung?
waxen hull
I need jahoda ughhh
vale granite
in wuwa they made everyone fight like avengers
limpid forge
fuck nvm tollan also had giant flowers. man they totally copied it wtf
@grand apex send that "what happened to shame?" pic
vale granite
maybe it's very bad writing if genshin did do 6 heroes vs dragon
that's why it was just us and mavuika
but wuwa feels more fun as a player
solid dust
that's all it takes for a good story? natlan story wasn't any better.. but if it all it takes just create a hype moment with characters that have no interaction with each other to fight together. at that point just add phonk music as well.
nothing is more hype than phonk
limpid forge
wuwa could only mimic a FRACTION of what fortnite did
waxen hull
no its in wuwa's 3.0 trailer
plain portal
that's all it takes for a good story? natlan story wasn't any better.. but if it...
At least Natlan character had interaction with each other to build some connection even if the overall plot was lackluster
limber heath
wait that's not genshin?
solid dust
vale granite
that's all it takes for a good story? natlan story wasn't any better.. but if it...
wasn't mavuika vs capitano hype too even though it just happened very early in the story
fight scenes make hype me feel
limber heath
fight scene only good if is has reason and emotion behind it
solid dust
wasn't mavuika vs capitano hype too even though it just happened very early in t...
that's two enemies fighting for a goal. that's how enemies work.. you dont interact with enemy when you wanna kill each other. allies do.
limber heath
a random flashy fight means nothing
vale granite
a random flashy fight means nothing
it feels like alot of genshin weekly boss fights count in that?
limber heath
most of genshin story is like that
solid dust
lets be real capitano and mavuika had deeper dialogues before fight than whole cast interaction of wuwa.
like those dialogues are peak for enemies
https://youtu.be/J4uJsK1gNKg
limber heath
just my biased opinion but, genshin has never made me feel emotional attached to any of the cast
like if someone in story dies i wouldn't feel much
limpid forge
like those dialogues are peak for enemies
https://youtu.be/J4uJsK1gNKg
she liteally says "let our fists do the talk bruv"
limber heath
i read lot of VN so i just have different standard
solid dust
she liteally says "let our fists do the talk bruv"
YEA THAT'S WHY ITS PEAK.
small banter so lets just beat each other🔥
limpid forge
YEA THAT'S WHY ITS PEAK.
i saw this randomly on my feed some time ago and like... that's it? that's wuwa aura farming? vs random aah dialogue genshin camera panning ?
solid dust
btw wuwa dont have these type of interaction.. cause rarely each character see others faces. 😭
90% its just rover x someone. mofos actually didn't have this issue in 1.x ..they fucked it up
plain portal
"Fucked up" I wouldn't say that since this direction made their game more successful
Their fandom is just built different
vale granite
wuwa is dying game unlike genshin need to do things to keep revenue rip
limpid galleon
solid dust
i dont know when wuwa people will realize ..cause their devs do listen..its just they act like dense mofos. like how can you like a story with almost all of the character being isolated.
i tried to get in..i swear i tried so many times..its just their story is so ass
limpid forge
speaking of aura farming do we even get a proper explanation on wtf even happened here ?
casually punches the roof of the night kingdom away and saves us and noone talks about it ever.
plain portal
i dont know when wuwa people will realize ..cause their devs do listen..its just...
Bold of you to assume they want it
They actually embrace their "gathering wife" accusations and are quite happy with it
They don't like MC that isn't center of the universe in fact they ridicule traveler precisely for this shit
solid dust
next arc would be even funnier if they just do isolated characters again. imagine you studying in a school and main characters have 0 interaction with each other. 😭
vapid current
speaking of aura farming do we even get a proper explanation on wtf even happene...
it is explained. I don't remember the specific explanation for why, but she used the memories of the objects in her room to get more power. I assume it's tied to how she can use the gnosis to fix the leylines.
or reweave them
because the night kingdom is tied to their memories.
solid dust
it is explained. I don't remember the specific explanation for why, but she used...
plot armor baby🔥 saving the hero in the nick of time cliche /j
nova coral
Ngl was thinking bout trying wuwa again after getting a new laptop, but im juggling so many games rn
limpid forge
it is explained. I don't remember the specific explanation for why, but she used...
yea ik that. i mean where is this happening?
she's punching air south of the stadium?
limpid kiln
next arc would be even funnier if they just do isolated characters again. imagin...
Does wuwa still have bad va's
solid dust
they fixed their vas
limpid galleon
wait is varka not playable
solid dust
its good now
limpid galleon
yet
limpid forge
did she open a rift there like gosoythoth or real moon in the fake sky ?
vale granite
Does wuwa still have bad va's
wdym genshin is getting wuwa vas for newer characters
vapid current
I think its directly where they entered into the night kingdom from?
solid dust
unless you hate briish accent lol
vale granite
lauma is cantarella and nefer is changli
plain portal
wait is varka not playable
Luna 5 most likely
vapid current
I'd have to go through Natlan AQ again. which I haven't done.
limpid galleon
Luna 5 most likely
oh wow i thought they released him already
nova coral
they fixed their vas
Did they update the voicework for earlier stories?
plain portal
Two more updates to go
limpid forge
I think its directly where they entered into the night kingdom from?
wish we got to see a temporary rift or smth in the overworld like "oooh that's waht she did"
solid dust
I'd have to go through Natlan AQ again. which I haven't done.
i respect your will brother. i dont think i can go through act 1 and 5 again
limpid kiln
wdym genshin is getting wuwa vas for newer characters
Well idk i remember it was shit and unbearable
vapid current
I mean, not playing it. I'd just rewatch it.
nova coral
Well idk i remember it was shit and unbearable
A lot better in newer versions
vapid current
mostly all I do is just go to the wiki for specific sections if it comes up in a convo.
solid dust
vapid current
but too lazy rn
waxen hull
bro i haven't even touched the new archon quest. procrastinating
tick tock 500 primogem event wont last forever
solid dust
tick tock 500 primogem event wont last forever
devout void
20 hours of AQ
Too much 
limpid kiln
limpid kiln
New aq is really good
solid dust
solid dust
New aq is really good
i know.. that why i am reluctant to do it.. you know how you save the good stuff for last.
limpid forge
i know.. that why i am reluctant to do it.. you know how you save the good stuff...
rather tick tock time is ticking for 5 day time gated durian sq limited time rewards
solid dust
i will never forgive hoyo for these bullshit ass timegates
limpid forge
like wtf why is it time gated? is this a sign every new one will be like that? ig it's fine if there's some really good story reason in there but we always get a wait until tomorrow ingame anyway so not like they couldn't do that
solid dust
plain portal
They found out a new way to hide that patch has no exploration content
limpid forge
They found out a new way to hide that patch has no exploration content <:E_pepel...
well they could just give away 1600 primos for free instead. every player happy. everyone happy enough to ignore lack of content
solid dust
62 pulls patch after all.. they always do scummy shit when pull count is low asf
devout void
I hate timegated content
I always do things last minute so it's Extremely inconvenient
limpid forge
There are 3 moons behind her
wonder if smth smth spoiler and next aq we come to the conclusion that columbus is the one true moon goddess successor. not just of the frost moon but all thre
solid dust
wonder if smth smth spoiler and next aq we come to the conclusion that columbus ...
so that's how she discovered America
limpid kiln
The domain
limpid forge
so that's how she discovered America
"she tried to yeet herself into the moon. but in realioty she found amerika"
rare dune
is there a razor spreadsheet with teams artifacts weapons and all
solid dust
they do update animation in later version..so just copium
limpid forge
The domain
they do tend to tweak animations alot
most noticable one i know of is chasca's ult
limpid forge
and we have 3 chars rn. so maybe they're taking their time. we're not even 1 week into it anyway. iirc the chasca change was like 3rd or 4th week
limpid forge
like this was cahsca's ult when leaks started
but rn ingame it pops a whole lot more
and with lotza effects
solid dust
and we have 3 chars rn. so maybe they're taking their time. we're not even 1 wee...
that's why we got shit like 190k c0 team😭
limpid forge
Barely any change lol just infusion
soo... kinda like navia's hers is just shiny gold color instead of normal gold 😭
limpid forge
that's why we got shit like 190k c0 team😭
man i really hope she gets gutted to 130k or smth at the bare minimum
limpid kiln
Navia was 2 years ago...
limpid forge
c6 4*, new archon, new char with.. actauly who's even zibai's 4th slot? c6 gorou?
solid dust
yea
limpid forge
hell yea. gutt her dps to 120k
limpid kiln
Also genshin's va so iconic, || we all can tell when dottore showed up and made the plottwist really good lol||
limpid forge
limpid forge
Also genshin's va so iconic, || we all can tell when dottore showed up and made ...
holy. first spoiler i accidentally clicked. good thing it was an expected one.
solid dust
holy. first spoiler i accidentally clicked. good thing it was an expected one.
same
its joever
limpid kiln
But yeah i didn't see any spoiler before doing the aq
limpid forge
Also genshin's va so iconic, || we all can tell when dottore showed up and made ...
only voice i really dislike is still mika's
toooo nasal voice
limpid forge
toooo nasal voice
durian kiiinda has it but not really.
limpid forge
I was like ohh okay she's gone and <:C_KEKTaoWait:841148745383149609>
BRO SPOILER
wth
limpid forge
man my internet must be quite shite indeed. i sent message before jahondurainda
anyhoot time to yeet myself off
-# out of this server until i finish the aq myself
limpid kiln
tardy grove
||Archon quest was peak||
tardy grove
We are all needs.
ok nerd
grand apex
What does varka even do in the story
What does he even do?.
plain portal
What does varka even do in the story
He makes the plan and stand there looking good
grand apex
https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-nihil-light-true-false-pokemon-gif-11119372515552...
True..
tardy grove
What does varka even do in the story
when he was hiding in shadows during meeting i thought he will do something
limpid kiln
What does he even do?.
grand apex
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-imagination-box-gif-1238735801943719394...
We are so funny bro.
tardy grove
why are you spamming the same pic
limpid kiln
when he was hiding in shadows during meeting i thought he will do something
Mooning all over the place
limpid forge
sorry chicken. nothing personal.
-# i'll unblock later if it's possible idk never tried using this. feel like it should be ez enough.
grand apex
@inner ether I need some help.
grand apex
sorry chicken. nothing personal. <:A_HuPensive:807551025942495274>
-# *i'll unb...
Puffin.
tardy grove
should I get yae cons
limpid kiln
should I get yae cons
grand apex
should I get yae cons
Yes.
tardy grove
https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-fucking-not-absolutely-not-l...
I don't really have much good options
grand apex
https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-fucking-not-absolutely-not-l...
Maintain the Agenda.
tardy grove
got c1 ganyu before
grand apex
limpid forge
lul chat looks funny for me rn
grand apex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1003895062771531837.gif?size=64&quality=lossle...
Can you kill @limpid kiln and feed them to me.
Eating chicken is so casual.
limpid forge
so the one think i click had me make the same face wtf.
@limpid kiln
dam jahonders almost used a ophthalmologist word
what is blud doing up there? 😭 no real spoiler
runic harness
fixed that bum
waxen hull
gotta love arguing with people that aren't there
i just called my dad a poser and a fake leftist government bootlicker meanwhile im alone talking to my monitor 😭
do other people do that or am i having another mentally ill moment
wait i have 666 achievements on my genshin alt OH MY GOD ITS SATAN OOO
limpid forge
do other people do that or am i having another mentally ill moment
i might sometimes do that. yea we're prolly mentally ill. we're cooked
devout void
do other people do that or am i having another mentally ill moment
Mentally ill
There's no cure
waxen hull
i might sometimes do that. yea we're prolly mentally ill. we're cooked
I have DID so it might be related to that
but if you do it too then maybe not idk
It could be psychosis but my psychosis should be gone since i no longer have any fungus in my brain
i just realised how insane that sounds out of context
limpid forge
for fr tho i saw a few weeks ago about a poll about "having a internal dialogue"
and the results were like 60% did.
now i don't know what qualifies as "internal dialogue" for everyone who voted yes or even ones who voted no. i voted yes like me gathering thoughts. talking to myself.
waxen hull
i used to have mycotoxicosis induced psychosis so i got really bad hallucinations and whatnot (all the juicy psychosis stuff)
but the fungus should've cleared up now and i still get hallucinations so idk whats going on
limpid forge
i just called my dad a poser and a fake leftist government bootlicker meanwhile ...
then there's rare moments where it drifts off so far that i forget i'm not talking to anyone. and might speak out loud.
waxen hull
brain damage is possible but unlikely
waxen hull
then there's rare moments where it drifts off so far that i forget i'm not talki...
I do that really badly oh my god
cosmic kernel
Cloudflare is down again...
limpid forge
Cloudflare is down again...
mother of
waxen hull
for fr tho i saw a few weeks ago about a poll about "having a internal dialogue"...
internal dialogue is like when you ask yourself a question in your head
like
"how do i spell x is it this or this?"
then you write the word
limpid forge
no wait things that went down last time are working fine for me
waxen hull
Internal dialogue is tame, typical stuff as if you're talking to your brain
limpid forge
no wait things that went down last time are working fine for me
maybe just smth local unlike last time?
waxen hull
If you have multiple "internal dialogues" those aren't internal dialogues and it's worth looking into dissociative or hallucinative disorders
you should only have 1
waxen hull
i have like fucking 20 and they take over my body sometimes
thats a simplified explanation of what DID does (used to be known as MPD, multiple personality disorder, but after clarifying that theyre more than JUST personalities, it was renamed to Dissociative Identity Disorder)
opal bone
get real be purple guy
limpid forge
I do that really badly oh my god
think i used to do that alot when i was younger. mostly when i'd be waiting for the bus in the buspark in school. like this one time a kid walked up and shouted "this brother is talking to himself!" like mf mind your own business
opal bone
real
cosmic kernel
https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GytokxpXcAMuWYh.gif
waxen hull
think i used to do that alot when i was younger. mostly when i'd be waiting for ...
damn
theres a lot of things it can be
cosmic kernel
Roblox is down and my lil brother is so angry lol
waxen hull
https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GywleJKWIAA7jsK.gif
I dont understand this meme
limpid forge
guys i think dau might be william afton from the hit indie game five nights at freddies fazbear's pizzera simulator 6
waxen hull
Roblox is down and my lil brother is so angry lol
I fixed it try again
waxen hull
oh god my meds just kicked in
limpid forge
I dont understand this meme
coz like umm.. you get it
waxen hull
https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737
your name is giving me a stroke tony stork
cosmic kernel
Wait, i remembered you were a staff here
What happened?
limpid forge
he's dau tho
limpid forge
your name is giving me a stroke tony stork
tony stork and tony stark and tony stank and tomy stank and tomy stork are different people
waxen hull
he's dau tho
no he's Pthoughekneihge Stork (Pronounced Tony Stork)
limpid forge
no he's tone stork
waxen hull
being a motion capture actor and physically disabled is a blessing and a curse
cosmic kernel
I fixed it try again
You really fixed it, my brother is playing again lol
waxen hull
I can do some unholy poses to model for fantasy shit
waxen hull
You really fixed it, my brother is playing again lol
yeah i wasnt joking
limpid forge
no he's Pthoughekneihge Stork (Pronounced Tony Stork)
waxen hull
I can do some unholy poses to model for fantasy shit
but also it hurts
cosmic kernel
Toney Baloney?
waxen hull
Toney Baloney?
Tone-deaf bard?
fuck i need to maintain my c6 arlecchino account i should be pulling for durin
limpid forge
toe knee stork
limpid forge
holy fuck my meds dont usually hit this hard
hit them back. FIGHT BACK
waxen hull
hit them back. FIGHT BACK
iits liquid that would not do much
idk what to do on my c6 arle account ughhh
arent we expectng a neuvv rerun or smth
limpid forge
iits liquid that would not do much
waxen hull
does ineffas level impact lunar-charged much
considering she's not the main trigger she's like secondary usually
wooden forge
does ineffas level impact lunar-charged much
It doesn't at all
Level isn't in the formula
waxen hull
oh for fucks sake my laziness comes back to haunt me
wooden forge
well thats not true
Wait she should be level 90...
waxen hull
why
wooden forge
It's her a1 that doesn't benefit from the level but lunar charged does a lot oops
wooden forge
But her a1 is most of her damage
waxen hull
do you know how much her level buffs lunar charged
im trying to fix my clorinde team but idk what to prioritise first
this fucking keyboard s annoying me now my v and i keys only work when they feel like it and sometimes they double type like ii or vv
wooden forge
do you know how much her level buffs lunar charged
I did a scavenger hunt and it said 30% and actual lunar charged is like 30% of her damage so it's worth
waxen hull
oh okay sweet ty ill do that next then
opal bone
What happened?
they killed helpers
limpid forge
I did a scavenger hunt and it said 30% and actual lunar charged is like 30% of h...
is ineffa's contribution in teams significant enough that her weapon options changes team output significantly?
waxen hull
is ineffa's contribution in teams significant enough that her weapon options cha...
In a clorinde team probably
In a flins team probably not
Not sure about other dps options
limpid forge
like if i manage to get her missive is the only thing i can slap on her. how's the shovel in comparison at r1?
waxen hull
is missive R5?
limpid forge
yea
top results are all old ones so dont' see one with shovel r1 and r5 with the others
hoary crest
In a clorinde team probably
In a flins team probably not
her sig bumps up flins' dps too pretty sure
limpid forge
huh right. gleam passive. ig missive is just comfier too
waxen hull
her sig bumps up flins' dps too pretty sure
Judging by the way they asked it was pretty safe to assume sig wasn't on the table
waxen hull
huh right. gleam passive. ig missive is just comfier too
missive gives 96 EM
I'm trying to figure out how much lunar-charged dmg bonus that is to compare it to shovel
waxen hull
missive is probably better if you struggle for atk
shovel will be better in almost every other scenario though
limpid forge
missive is probably better if you struggle for atk
shovel will be better in almo...
not too sure if i'd lock her into only ascendant gleam teams though. r1 or r5 both shovels should be worse than r5 missive in non ascendant gleam teams i'm guessing?
waxen hull
It triggers off-field from what I can tell
idk who calculated that assuming 50% uptime it should be 100%
The reference used to confirm otherwise was done with xiao for some reason so I wouldn't trust it as a source
limpid forge
wth this other one also assuming just 60% uptime
vapid current
||are we going to get a celebration of the death and resurrection of the moon goddess in about 4 months from now?||
vapid current
u probably have to use the plants somewhere
and then have like a 0.5s window where ur high enough to trigger it
limpid forge
I knocked down one but how the hell do i get up there for the other
why is fps 19? 😭
waxen hull
strange
I'd test it for you but I don't have it
icl i regret picking arle as my first c6 fontaine character
i should've gone for C6 clorinde
C0 arle is stronger than C0 clorinde by a mile so i'd probably have 2 solid teams by now
but because i got arle c6 and my clorinde has no cons yet she just feels ass to play and does no dmg
waxen hull
kinda the same shit isn't it?
nah?
c0 arle is stronger than c0 clorinde
i would be able to 36 star by now if i picked someone else as my first fontaine c6 and kept arle at c0 or c1
but i cant because clorinde is one of the weakest fontaine units
hoary crest
nah?
c0 arle is stronger than c0 clorinde
I don't want to be a bad guy but
if you can't 36 star with c6 arle c0 clorinde there's bigger problems than your pull choices
waxen hull
oh I'm aware
hoary crest
besides, clorinde isn't one of the weakest
waxen hull
I'm working on it
hoary crest
she's like solidly a bit above average
waxen hull
besides, clorinde isn't one of the weakest
???
sigewinne and navia are arguably the only fontaine characters weaker than her
in terms of 5 stars at least
hoary crest
lyney, wrio?
waxen hull
both are stronger than clorinde hello
hoary crest
they are not
waxen hull
wrio has escoffier and/or durin
lyney isn't great but he's still a bit better than clorinde
waxen hull
clorinde overload is far weaker than wrio escoffier or wrio melt
clorinde's best carry teammate is ineffa anyway not chev or durin
vapid current
wrio coffee i could buy. i do not buy wrio melt lol
unless the melt in question is "its actually just mavuika"
waxen hull
wrio coffee i could buy. i do not buy wrio melt lol
wrio melt is stronger than clorinde because wrio isnt the one melting
durin is
hoary crest
this is one of clorinde's shittier overload teams
waxen hull
wrio and clorinde are BOTH weak units
but wrio works as a better driver than clorinde in current meta because ineffa just isn't all that strong as an off-field carry
hoary crest
this is one of wrio's best freeze teams
waxen hull
this is one of clorinde's shittier overload teams
I'm aware that she's strong but also consider that this s a HARBINGER OF DAWN clorinde
which is incredibly inconsistent and flimsy
and makes for a very biased outcome
harbinger of dawn clorinde does huge dmg when passive is active but trash dmg when its not
and that team has no shielder
hoary crest
gimme a sec
vapid current
tbf. out of anyone who would be using HoD without a shielder, clorinde is probably one of the best. very good self sustain, so even if the passive drops she can get it back up again, and her whole thing is in-built dodging.
waxen hull
tbf. out of anyone who would be using HoD without a shielder, clorinde is probab...
even she shouldn't though
vapid current
i mean yeah. its obviously not 100% uptime
waxen hull
her self sustain is good but considering she loses chevreuse and bennetts sustain for it you aren't really gaining all that much
you'd have more sustain with keqing over clorinde there assuming a decent chevy build
it's like saying arlecchino (if she was sword) would work on HoD because her ult heals her
it makes sense in theory but has SO many holes in practice
hoary crest
I'm aware that she's strong but also consider that this s a HARBINGER OF DAWN cl...
there you are
waxen hull
black sword r5..?
vapid current
i mean no
waxen hull
vs widsith r5 in freeze where the EM is useless?
vapid current
arle healing is tied to an ult with a cooldown
hoary crest
the wrio team has 4 5 stars...
are we nitpicking black sword r5 now?
gimme another sec...
vapid current
I think comparing Clorinde healing to Arle is wild
Clorinde is a much better self sustain
hoary crest
there
waxen hull
the wrio team has 4 5 stars...
I'm aware
I'd also like to point out though I stated that neither are great dps and wrio is just better because he works as a durin driver
hoary crest
clorinde uses durin much better tho
waxen hull
However wrio STILL works as a durin driver where clorinde doesn't come close
waxen hull
clorinde uses durin much better tho
That's straight up a lie what
Do you know what durin does?
hoary crest
durin in a chev team is far greater than durin melting his subdps damage...
waxen hull
For hypercarry/personal dmg yes, clorinde makes better use of durins kit
Especially because fischl is hexerei
But this isn't about hypercarry
Hence my word choice of "driver"
limpid forge
I'm aware that she's strong but also consider that this s a HARBINGER OF DAWN cl...
just use lions roar. ez
waxen hull
no?
she has an atk scaling self-buff with a cap
but she still benefits from more atk
just not as much
limpid forge
this exactly
limpid forge
clorinde is much stronger. ppl say meh about using mav in cl team but i dont' see the problem there either. i just QE out with mav. and mav makes iansan work 100% with clorinde
waxen hull
she's straight up above average fontaine unit
My initial point was moreso about her vs arlecchino anyway so this still isnt really relevant
hoary crest
allowing a subdps their amp reaction is not a winning strategy anymore, this is 2025 not 2021 with internat days
mdpses do far more damage than subdpses
at least if they're good
limpid forge
meanwhile i hate to say it but navia is worse than clorinde kinda. think she got buffed with albedo/durian but no albedo so i never bothered to check what numbers she at
waxen hull
meanwhile i hate to say it but navia is worse than clorinde kinda. think she got...
Yeah Navia isn't in a great spot right now
She's not trash but she's not too good either
limpid forge
while clorinde has easily been usable in alot of the SO bosses
hoary crest
My initial point was moreso about her vs arlecchino anyway so this still isnt re...
clorinde with durin is not far behind arle at all
we're talking like 5-10%
vapid current
but she still benefits from more atk
not rly. clorinde's whole thing is that her MVs aren't very high. She works because of her passives, so if u cap it, u dont rly need more atk. if you can get there without bennett u can drop him
waxen hull
clorinde with durin is not far behind arle at all
Clorinde gains a lot less from C1 than Arle does though
limpid forge
more than half of them were ec shill and clorinde pulled though. that burning boss for kinich that wanted pyro but not a pyro dps? clorinde pulled through.
waxen hull
not rly. clorinde's whole thing is that her MVs aren't very high. She works beca...
???
vapid current
???
hoary crest
???
waxen hull
I said she still benefits from it
I never specified how much
vapid current
yes, its a functional cap. u dont need more.
waxen hull
a 1% increase is still an increase what is there to argue over
vapid current
its a waste
limpid forge
we're talking like 5-10%
does anyone have clorinde/bina/ineffa calcs btw?
vapid current
because you're arguing on a technicality. yes, the actual stat does not cap. but she has no practical use for atk beyond her passive cap
hoary crest
does anyone have clorinde/bina/ineffa calcs btw?
idk that's not my game, I'm keeping an eye out for raiden wheelchairs
waxen hull
I'm saying she benefits from more atk
Not that its a significant increase
It's like saying hu tao benefits from flat atk
Just because it's not a lot doesn't change the objective fact behind it
waxen hull
because you're arguing on a technicality. yes, the actual stat does not cap. but...
You're the one arguing on a technicality
She objectively does benefit from more atk
It's not a lot but it's not completely useless either
limpid forge
btw tree why do you even have c6 arle and not much other dpses?
vapid current
yeah, and furina benefits from atk too because u can maybe waste 1 second using a normal atk on her
waxen hull
btw tree why do you even have c6 arle and not much other dpses?
This is a fontaine focused alt
vapid current
You're the one arguing on a technicality
She objectively does benefit from more ...
i dont think u understand what technicality means
waxen hull
yeah, and furina benefits from atk too because u can maybe waste 1 second using ...
Furina's normal attacks are not her primary use case don't be obtuse
hoary crest
bina ineffa looks like around 800-1m dpr for most non NK carries though (unless lauma is also on the team)
so take that where you will
limpid forge
everyone technically objectively benefits from attack stats 🫠
vapid current
going from 700 to 720 on ur normal atk is a 20 atk buff
waxen hull
she objectively does benefit from more atk.
It's not a lot
She objectively does not benefit from atk at all unless you go out of your way to force her to
long lance
this is strange
limpid forge
no special state
grand apex
waxen hull
Exactly
Clorinde's MAIN USE is her electro dmg in skill state
Therefore any increase to that is a benefit assuming you use her as normal
Furina's MAIN USE is her skill and ult which atk does nothing for
Going out of your way to normal attack with her is VERY DIFFERENT to getting a small increase on Clorinde's main dmg source
It's not a huge dmg increase
But you're not wasting anything to get it because you already rolled those atk stats
you DO waste time normal attacking on furina though
limpid forge
yea ik i'm just basing it off on the technicality that every single unit can benefit from higher atk than less
waxen hull
I swear people in this chat just argue for the sake of it most of the time 😭
waxen hull
yea ik i'm just basing it off on the technicality that every single unit can ben...
this is not true ‼️
limpid forge
tho tbf i should use another word aside from 'benefit'. coz every single unit benefits from having 100k hp and 100k def than not
waxen hull
Barbara's normal attacks scale on hp% (im not lying i promise)
so she cant use atk at all
hoary crest
grand apex
waxen hull
and she cant trigger the passives of eye of perception or skyward atlas because they require the user to have atk scaling normals (you wont find anything about it because its hidden it doesnt say it in the weapon descriptions)
so she cant even use atk for those
hoary crest
limpid forge
put that navia chiori one pls
grand apex
vapid current
I swear people in this chat just argue for the sake of it most of the time 😭
this is wild because u have admitted like 5 times in this convo that the benefit isn't big, it's just "objectively" an increase. Like, you understand the benefit is not worth going out of your way to team build for. If you can hit the cap, the increases beyond are much more extreme diminishing returns. but you are still the one who argued against "she has an atk cap" because on a literal technicality, she doesn't. because, as stated in this point, you understand its NOT a worthwhile increase to build for.
hoary crest
put that navia chiori one pls
vapid current
if you want to say I am arguing for the sake of arguing, go for it. Maybe understand you did it first though.
limpid forge
love how we were just talking about clorinde is better than wrio -by a good margin
long lance
what is going on
waxen hull
this is wild because u have admitted like 5 times in this convo that the benefit...
It's not a cap though
On furina if you have X atk you have to normal attack to utilise it, which wastes time
On clorinde if you have 3001 atk it's still increasng her damage WITHOUT wasting time
It's not worth going out of your way to build more atk, but it's not useless like it is for furina. Furina's only ways to utilise atk well are from C6 or wasting time in the rotation. Clorinde can utilise extra atk without any cons and any changes to her rotation.
Your argument is full of holes because you're comparing a character who loses dmg by using higher atk to a character who gains dmg but not much by having higher atk
vapid current
holy shit
waxen hull
A small increase is not the same as a general decrease
waxen hull
are you being daft on purpose?
You're using a fallacy to misrepresent clorinde's kit
vapid current
no
grand apex
Oh ts lowkey fire.
waxen hull
You are in no position to insult anyone elses intelligence when you are using logic this flawed
vapid current
im understanding that language is fluid, and saying a character has a cap, does not LITERALLY mean they have a cap. You already agreed in that point that its not worth worth going out of your way to build for it. So it functions as a cap. If you hit the cap, you stop. You don't build for it.
long lance
did every intern lose access to genshin's social media accounts
waxen hull
im understanding that language is fluid, and saying a character has a cap, does ...
It's not worth going out of your way to build more atk on her, but it's not a bad thing if you have extra by accident because it still provides some increase, regardless of how small.
In your comparison, you isolated Furina and/or implied that wasting rotation time (causing a net decrease in teamwide damage) is somehow the same.
hoary crest
mfw a simple clorinde vs wrio debunk turned into an argument about the nuances of whether or not clorinde is soft capped or not
grand apex
mfw a simple clorinde vs wrio debunk turned into an argument about the nuances o...
Oh look it's my aunt.
waxen hull
You compared a small increase to an overall decrease and acted as though they're the same thing. It's so illogical I can't even figure out your thought process.
long lance
40 minutes then
vapid current
No, my initial point was that you argued on a technicality that she doesn't have a cap, and that building for atk beyond it is a waste, and you replied with "??? UMM AKSHUALLY I NEVER SAID HOW MUCH SHE BENEFITS FROM IT JUST THAT SHE DOES"