・tc-lounge

[thorn sun]

it's not out of the goodness of their hearts

1. generate goodwill by buffing favourites
2. make reruns more valuable
3. make ppl excited about more old units getting buffed in the future

[long pilot]

The explanation in the story is that if he kills all the Jedi for Palpatine, dude will teach him how to save his wife from her fated death. Yoda just tells him "let her go bro." But it's still like going from 0 to 100 real quick. The Clone Wars cartoon and other stuff kinda sells it all better that Anakin is willing to do all sorts of fucked shit if pushed.

And other Dark Jedi falls are also written better I think.

In comics and games and stuff.

[thorn sun]

the jedi just kinda dropped the ball big time with him

[lyric fossil]

The best star wars since TLJ was… acolyte and andor imo

[long pilot]

Andor is great.

[thorn sun]

Andor's sick af

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/acolyte-sith-qimir-sol-lightsaber-gif-14459348629890541028

Turns out casting hot men somewhat saves your project

[vapid current]

this is not true. general unit value and more importantly con value is where money is made. because they're the things ur typically dropping cash on. welkin only gets u generally enough for most chars at c0. so most ppl are just spending extra for cons.

[hollow cedar]

Childe Bennet Durin Sucrose/Albedo

will this cook or get cooked

[lyric fossil]

Fair enough
I had in mind the casual spenders who drop hundreds a time on fun units and dip

[long pilot]

Childe wheelchair

[vapid current]

those ppl spend on hyped units

[lyric fossil]

Childe sucks because of his cd

Let the childe dream go

[vapid current]

they will come back, see varka and alice are playable, drop $300 because they dont play the game to have a stockpile of primos

[thorn sun]

childe's gonna get buffed so goddamn hard

[vapid current]

and then play a bit, leave until next character

[thorn sun]

bro is like actually unusable now

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/ayato-ayato-pretty-genshin-genshin-impact-ayato-alone-gif-25224546

[vapid current]

not rly. childe could be a durin driver

[hollow cedar]

Never mind

Not to self

[vapid current]

if u want to play the dps durin mode

[lyric fossil]

Cd problems

[lyric fossil]

I was jk

[hollow cedar]

Don’t consult this server for Childe related TC post 3.x

[long pilot]

I have C1R1 Childe I played him in every abyss for literal years I want that buff.

[hollow cedar]

Too late

Ur blacklisted to me on Tartaglia TC

[thorn sun]

ganyu too

[lyric fossil]

What is the typical tar tar rot

[thorn sun]

ganyu, tartaglia and zhongli will get HELLA buffed

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-patrick-spongebob-sad-gif-355481321846362250

[hollow cedar]

NO

[thorn sun]

they will

[hollow cedar]

Not Zhongli…

😭

[long pilot]

Well, for now I'm just happy with the Hexen stuff.

[thorn sun]

look at what venti is getting rn bro is being glazed by hoyo

[long pilot]

Albedo is back

[sinful wigeon]

Buff my goat raiden

[thorn sun]

now imagine what the CN archon will get

[hollow cedar]

Make Geo NA dps Zhongli usable

[sinful wigeon]

Actually buff dehya first

[lyric fossil]

Electro mavuika

[hollow cedar]

Sure in 2 years

[thorn sun]

i think his shield will get minor buffs
but his burst will get BUFFED

like, 10x dmg

[sinful wigeon]

Dawg don't buff his burst

[long pilot]

Dehya is a cool design with such a nerfed kit.

[lyric fossil]

KB mentioned we have a buff roadmap

[sinful wigeon]

Huh

[lyric fossil]

Wont happen

[hollow cedar]

*half broken kit

[lyric fossil]

His burst is low cost

Cant justify high dmg

[thorn sun]

energy does not matter

[vapid current]

its not broken, its just got shit numbers rly

[thorn sun]

time spent matters

[lyric fossil]

It can have other utilities

[thorn sun]

zhongli burst is literally trash

[long pilot]

Like just let her be a damage mitigation unit for real, up those numbers even if you don't want her to be able to do major damage or pyro app.

[thorn sun]

like active griefing yourself by using it kind of bad

[long pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837317430576807977/1078140875919593572/dehyadance.gif

[lyric fossil]

That is slotting in ZL in the first place

[hollow cedar]

Try not making getting frozen cancel her burst for one kek

[lyric fossil]

[thorn sun]

when he came out he was decent

dps wise

[lyric fossil]

Yes

[hollow cedar]

I remember when Pike Zhongli could actually clear content

[long pilot]

Zhongli was also one of the first event units though

it's been a long time

[vapid current]

her intended role is something of a bruiser class. she is designed so that when she is on field she has tools for dmg and self sustain, and when off field, has tools for team utility in survivability.

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/geo-dude-bald-zhongli-genshin-impact-genshin-gif-16932017657884131518

[thorn sun]

i think they'll omega buff his burst

so it's actually worth using

[vapid current]

literally rarely ever an issue

just a funny point people who never used dehya like to pretend matters

[lyric fossil]

They can keep the damage same but if it reduces def on enemy …

[blazing swan]

if i wanna do DPS venti next patch is it ATK/Anemo/Crit?

[lyric fossil]

Ig so

[thorn sun]

again
it's what like 2 seconds of animations to do nothing?

[blazing swan]

c1 right?

[thorn sun]

3 seconds? i forgor

[vapid current]

no, he was ass at everything when he came out. the only thing he did was have a shield.

[long pilot]

Mav unfortunately just powercreeps every part of her off field and burst stuff. And her survivability stuff is mid at best.

[thorn sun]

imagine spending 10% of your rotation to do nothing

[lyric fossil]

No clue
Ask the_descola / bec in #・current-beta-tc

[thorn sun]

😔

[lyric fossil]

Def shred is very valuable though

For amp and raw comps

[long pilot]

Venti's C1 still isn't even that good, right?

[thorn sun]

it's alright

[lyric fossil]

Not alright its really good

[vapid current]

ehh. not rly? she has pretty good self sustain unless ur getting absolutely rolled

[lyric fossil]

It is just extra mv iirc

[vapid current]

in which case its kinda major skill issue

[long pilot]

like the MV upping and auto targetting makes it viable for a change, but it's still 10-15% isn't it?

[lyric fossil]

I am most excited for Ganyu buffs
I got aqua losing flins sig
And her C1 too

[thorn sun]

venti burst auto targeting is insane

[lyric fossil]

They fixed it after 5 years

[thorn sun]

bro might actually be fun to use now

[long pilot]

truly the biggest buff he got

bigger than the witch stuff, bigger than the NAs working for a change, it's huge.

[thorn sun]

yep

[long pilot]

No more skill issues with Venti. No longer a pain compared to Kazoo.

[thorn sun]

yeah it's like the difference between kazuha and venti

ease of use

now it's just, boom shoot closest enemy

done

except he might be even easier to use than kazuha

[lyric fossil]

Ill be TH17 today
Finally

[thorn sun]

because he has auto target on both E and Q now

you dont even need to move at all now, just EQ swap

[lyric fossil]

Hes better with witch bonus

[thorn sun]

with kaz you had to be close

makes his rotations way tighter, plus he has a massive dmg buff too now

like wtf

[long pilot]

Sure, but part of Kazuha lasting as long as he did is he slotted into a ton of teams, so it's a fair trade off that Venti's better if you limit one team slot to other Hexen units.

[lyric fossil]

Fischl , Durin, Mona, All good

[thorn sun]

venti might be the unit to use with alice

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/durin-durin-genshin-durin-genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-gif-2313671472391888225

[long pilot]

Nicole and Alice will also no doubt be good.

[thorn sun]

hm

venti buff is only for anemo carries isnt it?

[long pilot]

modern units > buffed units still.

[lyric fossil]

So can anyone give me a rundown of the release schedule

For the 5*s

[lyric fossil]

If they trigger swirl
Yes

Hes varka support

[thorn sun]

right

hm

[long lance]

chess boss is underrated

[lyric fossil]

6.0- flins lauma
6.1- nefer
6.2- durin
6.3- mare bina
6.4- varka
6.5- sandrone ?
6.6- nicole
6.7- alice
6.8-???

[thorn sun]

6.4 could be sandrone

other than that who tf knows

[long lance]

her id is 133 though

[lyric fossil]

So theres chance for rerir still

[long pilot]

it's not, she's way up there in the character ids.

[thorn sun]

hm ok

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-rerir-genshin-rerir-gi-rerir-gif-15225652399499932218

[long lance]

not playable in Luna

[runic harness]

is bina really 6.3

[long pilot]

133 Marionette
132 ???
131 Unknown Lady
130 ???
129 ???
128 Varka
127 ???
126 ???
125 The Damselette
124 Jahoda "Windthreading Shadow"
123 Durin

[lyric fossil]

Yes

[thorn sun]

well durin is 6.2
bina extremely likely 6.3

[long pilot]

who is Unknown Lady? Once again: unknown.

[lyric fossil]

Its prolly nicole

[long pilot]

Also 126-127 most likely CNY characters (4-star and White Horse)

[flat elk]

i'll be so fucked if this is true

[thorn sun]

we've also had a leak of hoyo planning a double whammy for 6.3

so bina + mare seems likely

[lyric fossil]

Wh

Why

[flat elk]

i heard mare is an anemo support too

[lyric fossil]

Ye

[thorn sun]

we dunno

[flat elk]

to brick my lunar with no bina or brick my varka

[thorn sun]

odds are good shes high value

[long lance]

i think mare will be generalist

[lyric fossil]

I hope they give a roadmap in 6.3 so i can plan out for rerir

[long pilot]

That was a claim, but fairly sus for the moment. I'd believe whatever comes out in 1-2 weeks more.

[flat elk]

please let me skip mare

[thorn sun]

shes apparently platinum hair with golden eyes

[flat elk]

i need to focus on my damn varka

[thorn sun]

mare in 6.3

[long pilot]

"Daughter of time"

https://tenor.com/view/istaroth-genshin-impact-time-shade-gif-11831854694408342009

[thorn sun]

yeah shes another strand tied to istaroth

presumably having been kept safe by liyue for a long goddamn time

[long lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1MbXNPL0ho

[thorn sun]

shes not adepti

iirc

[lyric fossil]

Shes an angel who took a liking to her i suppose

Its funny how

Mare is our first playable angel not nicole

https://tenor.com/view/dehya-dance-gif-27573679

[thorn sun]

The Gold-Eyed Celadon Mare is one of the Eight Adepts. She was once one of the Angels, and was described as a "daughter" of Istaroth.[1] According to Frostmoon Scions accounts, she once dwelled on the moon.[2] During the Archon War, she along with the rest of the Eight Adepts fought to subdue the god Tao Dou.[3] At some point, she met a young boy in the bamboo forest of Mt. Qingce, whom she told about the Three Moons that died during the Funerary Year.

Adept, not adepti

tldr shes old af

[lyric fossil]

Imagine if Mare has a line on Phanes

[lyric fossil]

At least 7000 years old

[flat elk]

daughter of istaroth Lord have mercy on my pull plans

[lyric fossil]

Second oldest btw

[thorn sun]

nicole prob older

[lyric fossil]

No

Nicole and mare same age

[long lance]

this is one of the best phase 2 weekly boss themes in the game

[lyric fossil]

Oldest character would be Ineffa for a long while

And maayyybbeee kinich if you wanna include Ajaw

[dense lantern]

@stone portal bro what

why am i -17/100

😭

[tame tendon]

is this a good e0 team? watching my friend play the final boss of amphoreus

[thorn sun]

celadon mare is kaeya's horse

confirmed

[long lance]

https://youtu.be/H27i2Bh0ACA?si=cMYzM-MowkWnS-5E

is that alice

[thorn sun]

noe

[flat elk]

e0? yeah i guess

[tame tendon]

i just saw them got absolutely destroyed

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/jahoda-jahoda-genshin-jahoda-kucing-joget-jahoda-dance-genshin-jahoda-gif-1530812624521343293

Jahoda cd reduction made her good for flins

[thorn sun]

actually wait it might be...

[lyric fossil]

Also
For flins
Furna really is the best hydro

[thorn sun]

true

[lyric fossil]

Turns out NK resonance when maxed out is great

[flat elk]

[flat elk]

prolly cyrene sagging along with her e0

[tame tendon]

i think the sustain isn't good enough and cypher keeps taking all the attacks @flat elk

[flat elk]

wait actually thats not the best e0 team

[thorn sun]

why isnt 6.2 here yet wtf

[flat elk]

ur missing evernight

[tame tendon]

they got to phase 2 and they did an attack that killed both cipher and healer girl

[long pilot]

I'm not even that interested in 6.2 I just want to see Columbina

[lyric fossil]

Still a bum but hey shes funny

(Jk)

[lyric fossil]

@ toby stick

[flat elk]

hyacine is the current best healer in the game btw

[lyric fossil]

Jahoda enables furina for ineffa and flins

[flat elk]

cipher don't do much there anyways its better to run evernight

[lyric fossil]

Hmmm

[long pilot]

6.3 has all the important stuff. Columbina. CNY characters. New artifact sets, hopefully an actual dedicated one for Durin.

[tame tendon]

they do not have evernight

[thorn sun]

zajef calc'd on field durin using marechausse at 160k+ dps

with furina to give him a usable set

[flat elk]

welp that sucks

[thorn sun]

i have NO idea if that calc was anywhere close to accurate, but he was using mistsplitter iirc

[lyric fossil]

It is not

[thorn sun]

durin looks way too balanced rn

almost like hoyo is actively trying not to powercreep anyone

something's sus

[dense lantern]

wazzzzaaaaaappppp

[mystic smelt]

https://fxtwitter.com/DimPacifistV2/status/1986869008570679709?t=0R2oSfhdn3dcVGBJST6iBw&s=19

Dim (@DimPacifistV2)

i've said it before but the erudition support unit that spawns dummy enemies IS COMING

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[lyric fossil]

He still needs his signature

[flat elk]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-scary-scary-movie-scream-gif-16966640

[dense lantern]

does dis buff the herta or sum

anaxa buff!!

[dense lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/lucia-zzz-lucia-zzz-zenless-zenless-zone-zero-gif-4638053467014792241

[mystic smelt]

the filo oomfies are preparing for super huge typhoon

think venti ult that is as big as liyue

[dense lantern]

r they considered boss enemies cuz then it doesnt do anything

[mystic smelt]

well...it would be a way for aoe units to mitigate when hsr goes back to shill st bosses

[dense lantern]

bros fighting osial

😔

[thorn sun]

@long lance actually
phase 1 of the chess fight sounds like alice
phase 2 might be voiced by barb

[mystic smelt]

exactly

[dense lantern]

i thought it was alice's test or sum

[dense lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/childe-childe-genshin-ajax-tartaglia-tartaglia-genshin-gif-9850581877539470206

[thorn sun]

do we think

celadon mare will have explo

y/n

[mystic smelt]

wake up zzz has done it again (second post release buffs)

[lyric fossil]

if shes horse

definitely

[thorn sun]

they already did that with lauma tho

[lyric fossil]

thats deer

[thorn sun]

also how will they do varka explo if celadon mare can run as a horse

[bright raven]

varka's never gonna be explor

[thorn sun]

varka explo leaks

[mystic smelt]

okay so there's a "store" locked buff and novaflare

I'm guessing it's similar to how genshin level 100 works (long term players and spenders benefit)

[bright raven]

burnice?

burnice rerun??

i get my goat soon?

[mystic smelt]

new buffing system in zzz

[bright raven]

no but the recent buffed chars reran right?

so burnice rerun maybe in the cards?

[mystic smelt]

ssanby and ellen will get the second buff that's currency locked

the rest are first time buffs

[mystic smelt]

probably yea

[flat elk]

locked buff

[mystic smelt]

leifa says it's decently obtainable

[crude root]

!!balls

[round siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813606884820516884/1241787910513098782/ac1dballs.mp4?ex=664b789d&is=664a271d&hm=44480b56707be360b9db1d9784197d3d085b6aa57088388e5c2f030e5d26abae&

[flat elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233638887532920875/1297368325839654943/togif.gif

how obtainable

cuz i am willing to do anything for my ssanby

[mystic smelt]

we wait for updates

[vale granite]

omg @burnt crow leeks

[bright raven]

[wooden forge]

I want columbina leaks

[bright raven]

soon

first son livestream in two weeks

[vale granite]

new endgame mode so fun

[bright raven]

so when you delete past quest resources on gfn you have to sit there and watch it download again (switched to alt)

nice speed tho

99mbps

[wooden forge]

This game mode is addictive 😭

[vale granite]

are there not much chars that have a recommendation that you shouldn't use them in the off field

cause in this roster hyacine is the only one with the "don't use this char off field warning" so is why she on field in my team

[twin thistle]

Shut up layla main

[vale granite]

[lyric fossil]

Is zzz fine on gfn ?

[tame tendon]

1: can they do another ship with trailblazer ever again after cyrene?
2: is firefly salty?

[bright raven]

yea

just blurry

[lyric fossil]

blurry ?

[bright raven]

like uhhh 480p

not 1080p

that might just be my internet though

[lyric fossil]

oh

rip

[mystic smelt]

if you read the post trailblaze quest you already have your answer

||aha x trailblazer shipping and glazing time||

[tame tendon]

wait what? i have game not downloaded btw so now im like what???

[mystic smelt]

long story, you'll get it if you play 3.7 and do the post quest and listen to the radio

they already set up two possible hsr planets for 4.0 and it seems like it's not a red herring

[tame tendon]

any clue when we might visit the hacker planet and/or any plot hook on connecting the 2 bronyas in star rail?

[mystic smelt]

none, even the revealed 4.x expies are very sus on why they're chosen

blade sp
sparkle sp
robin sp
aventurine sp
himeko sp

then

la mancha
pearl
yaoguang
and yae expy

the cast is giving penacony 2.0 but with a lot of familiar faces

oh wait sampo sp

[tame tendon]

la mancha
say that again...

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-don-quixote-confetti-gif-15890753718484231634

[mystic smelt]

i just KNOW pearl is gonna be a hit

adult mecha kokomi with this design?

androgynous mecha woman

[tame tendon]

maybe i should get into star rail again but idk if im shooting myself in the foot for missing so many content patches. i originally quit because building teams and characters didn't feel fun anymore (due to rising difficulty and game releasing characters to be partnered with others)

i actually fine with powercreep as long as you still get the choice to think for yourself in terms of finding cool character combos

[mystic smelt]

you WILL feel the missed content but thankfully perma content exists

and you will have to accept catching up on the endgame will take you 3 patches

and smarty choices

my recommendation is simple

prioritize units that bypass weakness type (high def shred, high res pen, weakness implant, omni toughness damage) and get the universal supports first

[tame tendon]

last time i played was 2.0 i think. i almost got back into the game but seeing tribbie just used in every team turned me off

[mystic smelt]

oh...a tribbie nonliker

https://tenor.com/view/oopie-goopie-hsr-tribbie-tribbie-hsr-tribbie-gif-3176559744909034998

[tame tendon]

i don't hate tribbie as a character

again i enjoy building teams and feeling smart for things working

[mystic smelt]

did you hate when ruan mei was used in so many teams

same as when furina and nahida had their era in genshin

[tame tendon]

yeah

[mystic smelt]

do you enjoy pulling for units that work on a smaller amount of teammates

[obtuse sage]

Do you hate Bennett

[tame tendon]

usually no

[mystic smelt]

tbf tribbie being universal is 🔥

e1 tribbie and e1 ruan mei is a fool proof wheelchair to enemy types

i saw someone run those two and cipher and it ended up nice 😭

[blazing swan]

Should i go do my test now or should i sleep and do it in the morning

[tame tendon]

if you're wondering what kind of mentality i have my only c6 character in genshin is cloud retainer

[tame tendon]

yes

[mystic smelt]

the unit that gave birth to 67 meta plunge teams

[flat elk]

maybe i should finally use one for e1 ruan mei...

also yes i just saw e0s1 dahlia + ff e0s1 showcase and she literally broke the rules of break

it rlly is time to get dahlia

[mystic smelt]

25% res pen
20% def ignore
30% weakness vulnerability
e1 rm + e0 tribbie

[flat elk]

i have e1 tribs thankfully

[tame tendon]

actually lemme be more clear: im fine with niche characters AS LONG AS they're not dps

• i skipped flins and nefer but pulled ineffa and lauma
• i c6'd cloud retainer and currently main her
• i hate bennet and treat him as a gatekeeper
• i pulled ayato because i heard he was a flexible on fielder
• im unsure on my opinion on furina since she did change the game a lot but in an interesting way that put emphasis on healing but im leaning more on positive
• i do not like neuvilette on release

[flat elk]

so i am not that worried on missing out cyrene for now

on my cas team

[mystic smelt]

that's why E1 robin is potent too

robin e1 + rm e1 has what, 40% def shred? put rm on ddd and you get double teamwide aa

[flat elk]

oh to have 2 s5 ddd

i'd kill someone for it

[obtuse sage]

Man I love Skirk

[mystic smelt]

the problem rn with hsr for me is that a lot of the dps are...slow

a fast dps would work so nicely on wheelchair comps that focus on buffs and less on aa/speed

[tame tendon]

@mystic smelt btw do you play limbus company or know it? idk if you got my joke

[opal bone]

FUCK why both shunguang and zhao for 2.5

[flat elk]

zhao is A rank right?

[long lance]

rita is

[mystic smelt]

no 😭

75% anemo damage bonus

and 20% energy recharge + up to 48% crit damage

[twin thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-umamusume-gold-ship-gold-ship-uma-musume-gold-ship-funny-gif-10574052350195395264

[flat elk]

@limpid galleon she is so fun imma cry

[vapid current]

this seems fake because its not written consistently at all.

[opal bone]

https://vxtwitter.com/juken_psu/status/1986341924777976120

じゅけん (@juken_psu)

君らゼルネアスの事嫌い過ぎやろ！
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[vapid current]

normal attack/skill/burst

respectively gain 1 / 3 / 5 / 10 stacks

3 abilities, but 4 potential stack amounts lol

also such an odd scaling method

nvm, just noticed it said enters battle as the last thing for 10 stacks.

[lyric fossil]

fake btw

not from telegram

[wicked solstice]

WHO?

[trail pier]

https://tenor.com/view/oopie-goopie-hsr-tribbie-tribbie-hsr-tribbie-gif-3176559744909034998

[mystic smelt]

oh thank goodness

that 2nd set sucks balls

[lyric fossil]

yeah too simplistic

also
i finally reached th17

[vapid current]

he also doesnt really care about ER

when he has a functional 40 cost burst

[lyric fossil]

no he does

you need at most 140%

that set pretty much kills any need for ER subs

[undone heron]

he still likes er subs

[long lance]

hsr having an unexpected controversy

[deep niche]

Whats arcane res??

[deep niche]

Its a pain to skip such a good chara. Hafta lie to myself and console myself with r1 miyabi. No funds for dialyn

[limpid kiln]

Why cicada

So ugly

[mystic smelt]

hallo nom how is super typhoon preparation

we just bought raincoats in the prospect of floods getting to above neck level because of how severe this one is 😭

[mossy geode]

Columbina has been support doomed. My plans to c6 have never been clearer

[deep niche]

Natlan cake is just a fruit salad

[deep niche]

Afternoon tea

[lyric fossil]

its a fake leak no

[mossy geode]

Idk im c6ing anyway

[lyric fossil]

spoiler decree is over bw

btw

also which sub is that

[hoary crest]

better safe than sorry idk

that's the okbuddy subreddit do not go there

[long lance]

hsr char cn is angry about

[hoary crest]

Did you know that the only reason Rerir didn't kill Varka

is because Varka is not a child

[lyric fossil]

oh that one

it sucks

[lyric fossil]

no hes manchild

he had adults around him to bail him out

[hoary crest]

Rerir neg diffs this guy

[lyric fossil]

varka downscale

[lyric fossil]

no he took abyss to save his wife

[long lance]

"wife"

[lyric fossil]

rerir would find a way if those werent crimson moon babies

[hoary crest]

rerir when killing 6 year olds: All glory to Khaenri'ah! This is completely necessary!
rerir when asked to kill tholindis: No... this has to stop now, specifically!

[iron drum]

https://tenor.com/view/ineffa-ineffa-genshin-ineffa-trailer-genshin-genshin-impact-gif-6451279203066542417

[long lance]

i met netochka

[hoary crest]

the more i hear about khaenri'ah the more i'm on the shades/archons' side

that place actually sucks

[lyric fossil]

it is all because of irmin man rerir has to be blamed for

[lyric fossil]

this is rhinedottir whitewashing

i like it

[hoary crest]

rhinedottir is the only one with the brains to join the right side

gotta respect Gold's hustle

[long lance]

time to become nibelung pilled

[lyric fossil]

possibly hroptatyr too

[long lance]

Luna III Beta Leaks (OST) ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2xIFFPQnU||
||wonder when this will be used in the AQ||

[mossy geode]

Arlecchino mischaracterization makes me want to blow my brains out

She's not a fucking child murderer. She AS A CHILD was forced to fight HER PEERS. It had nothing to do with age, that didn't matter. She had to defend herself and kill her "Mother." Modern day Arlecchino doesnt kill children, and anyone she trains to be in the fatui can leave at any fucking point. Her entire story quest focused on that

Comparing Rerir, a selfish genocidal grown man to a child defending herself is actuslly batshit insane

[lyric fossil]

@unkempt rampart

[long lance]

so about arlecchino being rewritten

this is from 2.4 btw

[mossy geode]

Why are we pinking coffee

Pinging

[mossy geode]

Making sure youre just showing that she wasnt rewritten

Bc otherwise it makes no sense to say she was and then show that she wasnt

[lyric fossil]

To play devil’s advocate, irmin was good at brainwashing children with no reprieve or prospects such as Rerir well into their adulthood and didnt mistreat them like crucabena to keep up the charade

[lyric fossil]

She fights the arle slander on the daily on tiktok and yt

[lyric fossil]

Doesnt excuse what he did

[mossy geode]

Doesn't matter. Rerirs entire story was focused on his identity in his job becoming less secure the more he murdered children

[long lance]

exactly

i don't think she was

[mossy geode]

The story focused on him realising everything he did was wrong, every scene was children painted him in a bad light. Brainwashed or not, he murdered children and felt guilt for it. He stopped too little too late

[mossy geode]

I think a lot of misunderstanding of harbingers being rewritten comes from voicelines like childe and wanderer, but i feel like people dont understand that the harbingers seem to focus too much on their rankings and let their opinions sway based on that.
Of course the 4th of the fatui who killed the previous knave is going to be described in a scary way by the 11th and youngest harbinger. That doesnt mean when the story tries to show us its all a misunderstanding that she was retconned.

All it means is genshin made her playable

[lyric fossil]

And was still clutching on saving what he held dear and ready to betray dain on the one good thing he could have done

Maybe with new khaenriah he gets to undo some of what he did

[solid dust]

Noooo my macrooo

[long lance]

not to mention

the wiki spreading misinformation

[lyric fossil]

wiki doesnt spread misinfo

[trail pier]

just watched frankenstein on netflix, that was phenomenal

[lyric fossil]

Del Torro's ?

[trail pier]

yeah

[lyric fossil]

for a min i thought it was the robert egger's one

then remember hes not doing that but instead took up the christmas carol movie

[long lance]

it does

[lyric fossil]

when did it ?

[long lance]

lol

[dusty pollen]

lmao

Rip those people that try to auto click the story tho

[solid dust]

Well technically you can still use macro just gotta be big brain. Make manual mouse clicking.

[long lance]

like you said

the wiki makes assumptions

[mossy geode]

A new world doesnt cleanse you of your sins

He commited genocide, you cant undo that. No matter if genshin tries to say "well everyones back and they forgive him" or not

[mossy geode]

Is this misinformation??

[long lance]

no

it's just funny

[small sparrow]

Wtf

Whats the new hoyo game

It looks amazing

Im going to assume its pc only

[lyric fossil]

Isnt this in line with actual aq ?

[lyric fossil]

Yes and it lists them as such with references

[ember oasis]

this will surely not get abused and weaponized in any way shape or form

[devout steeple]

I still don't get what the chang

[lyric fossil]

Yes
Those are written down and cannot be undone. He was an active genocider and nothing he does could make up for any of it.

Except perhaps by aiding Abyss Order to bring them all back with his memories and correcting the wrongs that led to it in the firdt place

Book possibly written by Vedrfolnir

[long lance]

wdym

and yes

people in the comments are arguing that because the inversion of genesis interlude aq is not mandatory and that we supposedly don't know where in the timeline it takes place (it's not hard to figure out) she should have a voiceline about scaramouche

[lyric fossil]

It is chronological

Arle comes into the traveler plot only after the wipe

Traveler is meant to have met Nicole first beforehand

[long lance]

i think the only interlude chapter that you could argue takes place before the latest region's AQ is the 1st one

[devout steeple]

Ngl i just do release order as the chronological

Tho for events that don't reveal major plot

[long lance]

The Crane Returns on the Wind

[lyric fossil]

Events are also chronological mainly no

[devout steeple]

Kinda || but this one the traveller ain't really connecting the tempe and cat to something like nefer so kinda hard to agree on that ||

[lyric fossil]

Anyway traveler plot line progresses in order of them discovering things slowly

Revealing too much at once results in Traveler death or collapse

Hence dainsleif who was about to, does not spill everything on the first meeting

[lyric fossil]

It could happen in tomorrow’s quest

To me im sure it happens after 6.1 aq

[devout steeple]

Ye probably

The statement at the beginning

Been a while

Since last visit was nahida's bday

5.1

[long lance]

wdym death

[lyric fossil]

And this event is an obvious continuation to ||Nefer backstory||

As it deals with ||Thoth||

I think traveller would spell it out soon anyway

[lyric fossil]

Nahida says it in 3.0

Too much information kills you

Hence they go about differently to clear the Samsara

Same thing for traveler

[long lance]

traveler could've survived

she's wrong

[lyric fossil]

Dainsleif, Sibling, Witches, Archons drip feed them with info or appetisers to help them figure out on their own

[lyric fossil]

No

[long lance]

are traveler chapters chronological as well?

[lyric fossil]

Yes

[long lance]

would you say the jade chamber building interlude chapter takes place before inazuma and the inazuma prologue

[lyric fossil]

I dont remember it

Wasnt around then

[long lance]

the shenhe quest

you also meet yun jin

[lyric fossil]

i dont remember

[vapid current]

no

[lyric fossil]

i dozed through the liyue quests

the most recent quest out of order would be skirk's

it happens before traveller goes to natlan imo

for one you still get fontaine tokens

no evidence of pmc

traveller also doesnt mention gosoytoth

[devout steeple]

Thus like every fandom having what's the chronological order debate when the simpliest answer us release order lol

Optimal jojo watch order my ass

[vapid current]

because u go to fontaine

[devout steeple]

Skirk's sq i can say could be pre natlan

Just cause we don't use pyro

Or pre 5.3 atleast

[lyric fossil]

quest happpens entirely in liyue

[long lance]

why not

[long lance]

fake fan smh

[vapid current]

oh ya. idk then.

[lyric fossil]

my guess is they planned to release skirk earlier but then it got shafted by the release scheduling and they placed it late 5.x

hence why we got the whole plot leaked 3 months in advance

[devout steeple]

I mean the time period

[lyric fossil]

yeah that too

[devout steeple]

Is from 4.2

[lyric fossil]

and pmc was a huge boost to traveller power

[devout steeple]

Also tbh

It could be after arle

[lyric fossil]

around arle's story quest time is when skirk quest happens imo

prolly after arle

yeuah

[devout steeple]

Cause why would we lose to arle when we got skirk training unless intentionally holding back since HOH issue

[long lance]

paralogism is definitely after natlan

[lyric fossil]

childe was asking arle to search for skirk (lol)

[lyric fossil]

yeah

and author intent wise traveller was strong then

going into natlan

able to carry on their own

[lyric fossil]

yes
it happens before easybreeze resort

[devout steeple]

Also that doesn't explain how scared the traveller was at the crimson moon

[long lance]

also space and time

[lyric fossil]

es

yes

[devout steeple]

Honestly the hardest question to slot in the time are dain quest

[lyric fossil]

only explanation is unfamiliarity with arle's balemoon contract

[long lance]

nah

[lyric fossil]

space and time for you defo happen before easy breeze resort

[devout steeple]

I mean the earlier ones

Or I'm forgetting

[lyric fossil]

oh
like the chasm and caribert ones ?

[devout steeple]

Happened 4 years ago

No like inverted statue

[long lance]

first dain quest is actually a wq

[lyric fossil]

i feel like caribert and bedtime story happened back to back

hence traveller clocking fontaine prophey on vedrfolnir

out of the blue

[devout steeple]

Bedtime story

[lyric fossil]

before inazuma

[devout steeple]

Is the abyss core one right

[long lance]

after liyue before inazuma

[lyric fossil]

bedtime story is the one where all sinner's name is revealed

[long lance]

probably right after the dainsleif wq too

[devout steeple]

Oh right

[lyric fossil]

caribert happens after nahida is freed

[devout steeple]

4.x dain quest

Right

[lyric fossil]

yes

[long lance]

tbh

[lyric fossil]

space and time for you happens 2 weeks before god's limits teaser

[long lance]

i guess you could say

[devout steeple]

Wait huh then caribert released on the card event patch

[long lance]

liyue interlude chapter could be after inazuma act 3

[lyric fossil]

3.6

yrds

yes

[devout steeple]

I mean all else fails use release order

[long lance]

nope

3.5

[lyric fossil]

i think the most random quest of all time is the chasm archon quest one

investigating yelan's ancestors

[devout steeple]

The jade chamber was reriredc

[long lance]

actually

[devout steeple]

It's pre sumeru just for the fact the traveller has no explored the chasm extensively

[lyric fossil]

it begs the player not to confuse with the dain quest there
it was confusing to new players like me then

[long lance]

caribert is after sumeru aq and interlude

[devout steeple]

I player since 1.0 so i'm pretty clear on time lines

[long lance]

bedtime story is after fontaine aq

[lyric fossil]

alternating between the world quest, dainsleif and yelan

[lyric fossil]

no theres argument that it was before too

it doesnt make sense that the disturbance near that village lasted a whole damn year lol

[long lance]

no

[lyric fossil]

and dain was going around that place for a year too

[long lance]

it was recent

[lyric fossil]

also, remember that traveller without hearing about vedrfolnir or the visionary clocks the fontainian prophecy from masquerade of the guilty as his

it makes sense if it comes after bedtime story

traveller doesnt remember sibling but does dain's words

[long lance]

why didn't traveler remember the name surtalogi then

[lyric fossil]

ykw
fair point

[long lance]

not to mention mona mentioning "a visionary." would've gotten the traveler to point out it was vedrfolnir

[lyric fossil]

that would imply AO frolicked around Sumeru jungle for a year to scrape caribert from their leylines

[long lance]

makes sense

also i think dain misinterpreted what they needed the eye of the first field tiller for

[lyric fossil]

why

and how

[long lance]

the core

or maybe their plans changed

[lyric fossil]

i need to brush up on it

no

the core was crucial to the loom of fate

probably needing the memories stored within

i suppose

[long lance]

nah

[lyric fossil]

sibling still had to face dainsleif for it

[long lance]

originally it was going to be attached to be to the defield statue along with osial's limbs to create some sort of mechanised god but i think it's purpose changed to be a component of the loom of fate

[lyric fossil]

it was to control osial and his god energies ig

[long lance]

originally

[opal bone]

real

[twin thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/1619-zenless-zone-zero-angry-rabbit-alice-gif-17052604127315677898

[lyric fossil]

I like this gif so so much

[long lance]

seeing the abyss sibling not being real theory

[lyric fossil]

that is untrue

[bright raven]

I need to stop thinking it's sunday

[lyric fossil]

but

[bright raven]

I keep getting upset

[lyric fossil]

traveler and sibling are the same person

[bright raven]

No

Sibling exists

"abyss sibling" is a creation of irminsul like tholindis

[lyric fossil]

no

[bright raven]

actual sibling is still inside spaceship

[long lance]

i agree

[lyric fossil]

no they are more than likely, just like PO ,the same one person

[bright raven]

Why same

[long lance]

abyss sibling basically got summoned to khaenri'ah

[bright raven]

Sibling in spaceship is more fun

[lyric fossil]

PO is two persons in one body or was at some point

[long lance]

and got amnesia

[bright raven]

I know phanes lote

Why trav same

[lyric fossil]

Traveler being the same is hinted in the fool arcana

[bright raven]

When we've seen both exist at same time

[lyric fossil]

traveler is a descender with their own laws

[bright raven]

We've not seen shades and phanes exist same time

[long lance]

most likely from khaenri'ah too

[lyric fossil]

traveller is prolly trans like phanes

/j

prolly liike marika and radagon

[long lance]

that's what people don't understand

[bright raven]

Who

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/radagon-marika-transition-color-change-gif-5052837046386747792

[long lance]

our sibling only remembered us after direidyth mentioned them

that's why they abandoned khaenri'ah

[bright raven]

Hmm

[lyric fossil]

also bakunawa proved it is possible for different yous to coexist at the same time and space

[bright raven]

?

[long lance]

@lyric fossil right

[flat elk]

No same, i was like, you have an ice dps alr

[lyric fossil]

o

no

[bright raven]

no

[lyric fossil]

what am tryna say iis both siblling and traveler are one and the same like the arcana suggests

[bright raven]

that i got how is the lizard evidence

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/aether-aether-suffer-aether-pain-aether-reaction-aether-genshin-impact-gif-27635331

[lyric fossil]

lizard ?

[bright raven]

bakunawa

[lyric fossil]

oh that

it is to just explain why both instances of traveler coexist at the same space and time and even speak to eah other

[bright raven]

HOW

How is bakunawa your source

Cite your sources!!!!!

[lyric fossil]

corroded letter part 3

drops when you beat bakunawa for the third time

[bright raven]

-_-

[vapid current]

idk. im reading it as just like, they are split from the same source. i think they are still individual beings, just made from the same thing.

[lyric fossil]

anyway i am relating this hyperborean prayer about Phanes

to that arcana of traveler

ignore bakunawa for now

[bright raven]

You think "monster eating his own kin" is bakunawa eating itself?

[lyric fossil]

yep

mare jivari is barren except for it

oh

and the mysterious nocht and nana ofc

[bright raven]

Hmm

[lyric fossil]

i hope it is that

easier to rationalise that way

[bright raven]

Me agree with choc

[lyric fossil]

but with the samsara shit it is probably one is traveler from the previous cycle

either by action of phanes or traveler themselves

[long lance]

wdym no

[lyric fossil]

i know the answer can be figured out by reading gnostic or buddhist or taoist mythos but it is too much hassle to figure out the twist

[vapid current]

oh i didnt even think of something like this. different travelers from different cycles? if descenders are born from will, can u undescender someone by breaking their will??

is that the idea here

[lyric fossil]

yea
i suspect it was irmin who did it

remember that sibling accumuated enough power to destroy the planet many times over

and it was specifically forbidden knowledge

for few moments he was stronger than phanes

[vapid current]

are u basing this on like, BP? 1 gets corrupted, 1 new one comes through.

hmm. makes sense...

[long lance]

the abyss sibling didn't remember their sibling until direidyth found them

[vapid current]

are they spawns of some kind of hivemind

[lyric fossil]

i didnt think of the bp now until you brought it up

anyway before i go on a tangent

[long lance]

@lyric fossil actually

asmoday being involved makes more sense

[lyric fossil]

i didnt mention this when i completed the quest but at first i assumed that the serpent was Irmin

but the AQ showed the serpent was indeed Vedrfolnir

okay back to the cutscene and to the travelers

[long lance]

cause not only was direidyth displaced 500 years in the future she was physically displaced in a different space as well

[lyric fossil]

i wanna relate it to the rene note on becoming a descender

[long lance]

from somewhere near khaenri'ah 500 years ago to present day natlan in atocpan

[lyric fossil]

Rene believed that the only way to become one was to sink into the abyss, and arise from the depths as a newborn baby

it failed for him

but for khaenriah, they summoned the traveller from the outer space/ The abyss itself

[deep niche]

Smh

[lyric fossil]

traveler crashed in nod krai

while sibling rose from the abyss and arrived at khaenriah

[deep niche]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-ouroboros-ouroboros-snake-tail-snake-gif-10572710539427286483

[lyric fossil]

this is vedrfolnir and istaroth in a nutshell

[vapid current]

so is ur idea that like, once we crossed the firmament or something, we already fucked with space and both spawned in different locations??

[lyric fossil]

probably

i am still unsure
traveller was most likely a descender before arriving at teyvat too

[vapid current]

I like the idea that 1 is older, got corrupted, but due to the nature of whatever the fuck the siblings are, they believe they come from the same time

[long lance]

wait i was wrong

[lyric fossil]

it can be that the sibling is indeed traveler's abyss copy and not a true sibling, but they still feel a sense of familiarity because they were literally one person before and hence only traveler was in the space ship

or

they were indeed different people but the abyss sibling in their crash into teyvat, tapped into the true cosmos/ abyss the same time Universitas Magistrorum did their descender wishing and arrived there via their reason over space

[long lance]

this is slightly wrong

[lyric fossil]

thats the thing

abyss doesnt really corrupt descenders

it should be somewhat of a second nature to them

in fact abyss isnt antagonistic outside of teyvat

skirk people coexisted with it peacefully

hol up

lemme pull the receipts

this is about phanes

[vapid current]

could relate to whatever fucking thing spawned us. Traveler origin story is literally just BP.

If they are planning on keeping same MC for a Genshin 2, I think its a lay up for that plotline.

[lyric fossil]

the only missing piece in the puzzle is the genesis pearl

[vapid current]

ya

[lyric fossil]

there are signs

vedrfolnir from the future baiting every sinner to do his bidding is how i see the implication was

[vapid current]

given what he did with rerir, very possible. if he can't interfere with fate, if he tells something to someone who can, does that interfere with it??

[lyric fossil]

the power of time is the weirdest among the core five

is hoyo trying to imply it is stronger than phanes's reason somehow ?

[rose pilot]

Chat should I risk it all and ask a woman 8 years older than me to marry me and live a happy life thereafter?

[lyric fossil]

by the time their fates are all sealed, he like istaroth live in past, present and future

[rose pilot]

Or be financially well and live a life single

[lyric fossil]

it is a weird thing to wrap your head around

vedrfolnir is free from fate like all of the sinners but

[brave lily]

How bout a third option

[lyric fossil]

he can see how he ends, and every moment in the past and present and future as he wiishes

[rose pilot]

Third option would be a short term relationship but she's too innocent for that

[lyric fossil]

still he was not a descender, and none of the sinners were

[vapid current]

i thought they were still bound by it? wasnt that the whole thing with surtalogi picking up skirk

[brave lily]

The invisible fourth option is what we need then

[lyric fossil]

perhaps all of this is 4d chess to get traveller and sibling to do his bidding

[rose pilot]

Fwb?

[lyric fossil]

no, surtologi is free from fate but not his destiny

[vapid current]

[lyric fossil]

destiny is self determined and he wishes to die at the hands of skirk

[brave lily]

Honestly though u shud discuss this with her

[rose pilot]

Nuh uh

[lyric fossil]

like i get a vague sense that dottore or rerir himself would drop a huge lore twist regarding traveller before heading into sneznaya

[long lance]

i have a theory about dottore tbh

[lyric fossil]

it should be the "Truth of this World" that traveller is being teased since start of the game

[brave lily]

What

Better not be crap

[lyric fossil]

we need a CN lore nerd with a deep knowledge in hoyo's sources here to explain their findings to all of us

[brave lily]

Theres a good ytuber no

Minslif or something

[lyric fossil]

EN keeps getting short end of the stick with incorrect translations

[brave lily]

He said correct stuffs months to an year back

[lyric fossil]

Rächer of Solnari is moon avenger but in CN Rerir is merely moon hunter

[brave lily]

Which are happening now

[vapid current]

i am always confused by fate va destiny because they are always used kinda liberally and definition depends on author

[long lance]

sumeru aq dottore is not dottore

[lyric fossil]

this is one time it is better to imagine teyvat as a eternal theatre

i think of fate as a script or a superscript that celestia gives to everyone on birth based on their constellation and name and they are forced to act in it. the script is based on perspective of celestia so the actor can still wiggle around and create a different outcome (Focalors' plan)

whereas destiny is something you get to decide and but participate without bargain

[brave lily]

What is this yapping

Just say fate is script and destiny is shooting

If someone cannot understand then they are dumb and further explanation isn't needed

Simple and short

[long lance]

real dottore does not leave snezhnaya

[lyric fossil]

surtologi is a hollow personality who passes time and boredom by indulging in combat but he is sick of it with having no stakes, an indulgence not ambition
This leads to him wanting a true deal and training skirk to challenge that annd put him to rest, deciding that as his destiny when he took her in

[brave lily]

In mommas home

[lyric fossil]

no

it works for everyone except sinners who apart from descenders broke from fate

[brave lily]

Wdym sinners don't have fate then?

Lol

[lyric fossil]

and genshin lore kinda weird it can break your idea of it by developing an obscure note from 3 years ago to surprise you

literally what happened in 6.0 and 6.1

[lyric fossil]

yeah they dont

[brave lily]

Everyone has fate if fate exists

You realise being stuck in a loop is also a fate

Having a blank ending is also fate

Becoming immortal is also fate

[deep niche]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DKOPaJlS1qq/

[brave lily]

It's all part of it

[lyric fossil]

nu

[deep niche]

Woah lore chat

[long lance]

@lyric fossil ||if the leaks are true then omega build dottore will be the weekly boss but not the real or "original" dottore if that makes sense||

[lyric fossil]

ii am not gonna speculate on it yet

[brave lily]

What is this knik

[lyric fossil]

this was the gripe of all ancient civilisations and thus far only sinners broke the cycle

https://tenor.com/view/1619-zenless-zone-zero-angry-rabbit-alice-gif-17052604127315677898

[brave lily]

Which is also fate

[lyric fossil]

no sinners broke it

they broke the fourth cycle and the whole planet is headed into an uncertain future

[long lance]

why not

[lyric fossil]

there is genuinely no material yet

not even leaks

[brave lily]

Which is also fate

[lyric fossil]

no

[brave lily]

Fates already decided, just you don't know it yet

[lyric fossil]

no

vedrfolnir does

[brave lily]

Yes

[lyric fossil]

and they also know how to beat it

[brave lily]

Yeah, it's still fate

They were fated and destined to do it though I doubt the second may be inaccurate

[lyric fossil]

thats the thing

they broke that

fate is only from perspectve of the gods

[brave lily]

Ye

[lyric fossil]

these charaters still have a lot of leeway

[deep niche]

Tf it didnt emb??

[lyric fossil]

if you smuggle in abyss studies you can beat fate

[deep niche]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DKOPaJlS1qq/

[lyric fossil]

since you now have knowledge and will to challenge

[deep niche]

@brave lily

[lyric fossil]

it

[brave lily]

That's not how fate works

[long lance]

i have another theory

[lyric fossil]

except that is how all of them broke fate

deshret and rene tried that and got fried

[brave lily]

Ye that's what I am saying, that is not how it works

[lyric fossil]

the 5 sinners did this and succeeded

[brave lily]

The said god's aren't actually god's tbh

[long lance]

@lyric fossil what if dottore wasn't the harbinger who wanted the moon marrow but pierro instead

[brave lily]

Like look at us, some animals might think of is as gods literally

[lyric fossil]

theres the error, Celestia obviously wouldt allow for that to happen

to use abyss and opposse their laws

[long lance]

pierro's technically a harbinger after all and the director of the fatui

[lyric fossil]

pierro doesnt work

[brave lily]

And celestial is just a power controlling stuffs, not a god

Even celestial has a fate

Celestia*

[lyric fossil]

they dont

[brave lily]

Wdym they dont

That's not how it works

[lyric fossil]

they have a descender who has more influence on fate than the true universe

[long lance]

wdym doesn't work

[lyric fossil]

it is self determined for them

[brave lily]

No, they are simply controlling stuffs

That is not fate

But they were fated to do it

That way

[lyric fossil]

that is very much fate here in genshin

the sublunary sphere is that concept
also elucidated in the book Little Witch and the Undying Flame

[brave lily]

Definition of fate does not change game by game

The ppl think it as fate

Because they are unknown to the power above them

Think of people of amphoreus

[long lance]

what if pierro is the 10th harbinger technically

[brave lily]

And their beliefs

They were just oblivious

[lyric fossil]

it does

here

ribhu is here

yay

[brave lily]

No, I just said why it dosent

[lyric fossil]

they would explain the sublunary sphere here

[plain portal]

Fate in genshin is an artificial system created by PO it's different from normal fate as we understand
Although for people under such system it works exactly as normal fate simply because they don't know the truth

[brave lily]

Ye that's what I am saying

That's why I said think of the people of amphoreus

[plain portal]

There's also several hidden spaces aka areas where God gaze doesn't fit where you can circumvent this system which is what hex witches do

And most likely sinners too

[lyric fossil]

i am unfamiliar with HSR lore

[brave lily]

They slyfully call it fate when it's pure control by power

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FixupX · Nov 8, 2025, 11:05 AM

[long lance]

@lyric fossil what about dottore creating a god

[brave lily]

Is nefer good yet

Is there bina leaks yet

[plain portal]

What was the convo about anyway?

[lyric fossil]

i argued that sinners broke free from fate

[buoyant ermine]

YES SHES THE BEST

[brave lily]

I don't trust you

[buoyant ermine]

😭

She’s good it’s only Varesa mains agenda posting that she’s better than Nefer

Plus Columbina isn’t out yet

[brave lily]

[lyric fossil]

meta art is fun

[long lance]

who created teyvat

[plain portal]

Ah well then that could be true yes because abyss has such powers
Neuv also broke free from fate even though he still willingly accepts his constellation just so he can keep on serving fontanians

Witches are the same in this regard

[lyric fossil]

another argument was that celestia itself has a fate they dont know

which i vehemently disagree

[unkempt rampart]

THANK YOU, I FEEL SEEN
WHEN I TELL YOU PPL ARE DUMB

[lyric fossil]

harkening back to gnostic belief, their fate is self determined as they influence that of others

[plain portal]

True
Authors are not really bound by their own story only the characters

[lyric fossil]

like the true universe and planets outside the sublunary sphere

which you told me the other day

[plain portal]

Unless they decide to actively insert themselves into their own story

[lyric fossil]

archons being some of the ccelestial bodies on influencig fate on behest of the Demiurge

[unkempt rampart]

ALSO HI TWIN

[lyric fossil]

re: Istaroth and Vedrfolnir ?

[lyric fossil]

late reply but you do what you like the most and are comfortable with

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/dottore-il-dottore-genshin-genshin-impact-fatui-gif-27281281

[rose pilot]

Lol it was just a fun question.

[plain portal]

Nah istaroth actively influence the fate she's still the author
Ved i don't think would want to be under fate either after breaking out
The problem for Ved isn't breaking outside fate it's influencing fate and changing it which only a descender can do

[long lance]

is nefer the only sumeru char wanderer hasn't met

[lyric fossil]

Ah

[lyric fossil]

And rn hes banking on travellers to do it for him

[lyric fossil]

Also ribhu

[plain portal]

Dw PO agent paimon is also banking on them

[lyric fossil]

Found our snake

[plain portal]

Evil paimon allegations are not going away

[lyric fossil]

Irmin isnt the snake but rather Ved

[lyric fossil]

Paimon and Ved arguing who got dibs

[long lance]

wonder if columbina jumpscared childe

[lyric fossil]

When paimon pulls out a 2000 page contract traveller was tricked into signing

[plain portal]

Isn't this Oroborus? Signifying past leads to future and future leads to past kinda thing basically a loop...which is a thing with Ved

[lyric fossil]

Crazy how arle slander/ misinformation disappeared after her interactions with bina and sandrone

[lyric fossil]

Future saves the past - Vera’s Melancholy, Vol 8

[unkempt rampart]

Ikr? Like cmon yall what happened to “she’s evil?” Yall quiet now! Almost like we’ve been TELLING YALL THIS

ppl can’t read

[plain portal]

People who did latest hsr quest would know how this works
Brace yourself people genshin is also gonna do something similar maybe a certain pink girl will also arrive

[lyric fossil]

Hoping the same happens with rerir

He just needs more cat scenes i tell ya

[plain portal]

Mavuika says the same
She's the only other archon after venti who knows traveler already hinted from their dialogue

[lyric fossil]

People forgive cats immediately

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cyrene-elysia-cyrene-elysia-lygus-romantic-story-gif-9033133258052100269

Cyrene Tsaritsa ?

[plain portal]

@lyric fossil ||previous cycle theory|| looking more apparent every day

[lyric fossil]

Wait she does ? When and where ?

[lyric fossil]

Yeah

Sibling or Traveller are like Mickey 17 and 18
One is a copy that shouldnt have survived into the next cycle

We dont know which is which

[plain portal]

Remember in her sq where traveler ask her "does she get tired?" in their mind and mavuika replies to them and then they wonder how did she know what they were gonna ask?
There's also where she said something similar to meeting again in the beginning similar to that venti line

[lyric fossil]

Whens the second instance ?
I assumed the first was her deduction skills

[plain portal]

The common understanding was that mavuika having seen the past and future using sacred flame might have known but now with the ||cycle theory and loop|| I'm thinking it's different

[long lance]

how do chars travel over water in the AQ

[lyric fossil]

This can also explain how she knew who gets which ancient name

Also kinda tragic how she cant view an end to the bakunawa mess though

[long lance]

like actually how

[plain portal]

See my reply on spoiler channel

[lyric fossil]

Yeah

[long lance]

@lyric fossil

[lyric fossil]

Idk man

[grand apex]

Rerir's bandage roll LMFAO.

[hazy thunder]

is there any video leak with the next SO boss?

[lyric fossil]

No

[sonic hull]

guys

i already got c6 collei

what will happen after i get the constellation from event

[grand apex]

5 free wishes.

[long lance]

wtf is wrong with genshin wiki comments

[sonic hull]

🤑

you mean the gems

right

[lyric fossil]

5 star glitter

[sonic hull]

yeah that

[grand apex]

Don't you get 25?.