・tc-lounge

[knotty badge]

IM VERY CONFUSED

[plain portal]

Would anyone who skipped narze ordo quest line even get what was told anyway?

[lyric fossil]

Yeah

They would have understood enough to get them curious about it

And complete the quest

[knotty badge]

Dwg

i swear to god

WHY DOES IT say 23 HOURS LEFTTT HELP

[silent comet]

This was the one with caterpillar and that robot dog right?

And the Mary Ann stuff

[plain portal]

Yeah

[lyric fossil]

Yes

Caterpillar

[vapid current]

||yeah both were a bit wonky. nefer bit was definitely worse (in terms of placement) because it just kinda derailed the main story stuff for what was obviously just an excuse to add in nefer backstory because they're not doing SQs.||

[lyric fossil]

I loved that one les miserables quest

[fallow geyser]

||Abridged version, doesn’t address lyris/mary-ann properly either so I’m guessing there’ll be another round or they show up||

[silent comet]

Bro the world quests was a thousand times better than whatever half of Fontaine's AQ was

[vapid current]

probably not

[lyric fossil]

||yeah , a measly excuse to say they ended up in her psyche and it happens to her sometimes||

but hey we got ||rerir cat||

||Evil kitty||

[silent comet]

Apparently I went to YouTube and I got spoiled this LMAO

So yeah

[lyric fossil]

Which reminds me, we havent gotten any info on city of Ys and arcadia

[silent comet]

Stuff happens

I was just scrolling shorts

I saw what I thought was a meme video

Coz they were literally meme-ing it

Then I saw what happened and I was like oh

[lyric fossil]

Yeah

Those were fast

Esp the ||rerir cat|| scene

It was everywhere

[silent comet]

Yerp

[plain portal]

Nefer was there to show ||parallel with Rerir both suffered and yet one didn't use that suffering as excuse to hurt innocent and fall to dark side||
Although yes it could've had better timing it felt abrupt kinda

[silent comet]

How long is the AQ?

Imma binge it

Like rn

[lyric fossil]

4.5 hours at most

[silent comet]

Not too bad

[vapid current]

4.5 watda

it took me like 6 hrs

do u just read and not listen to the full dialogue lines

[lyric fossil]

No

I took 7 hours

To snap important dialogue and cutscenes

[vapid current]

thats not taking u 2.5 hrs

[lyric fossil]

I cross checked one of them with archon quest textmap and found that one of the ??? Had a name in the text map

Unintentional lore datamined

[lyric fossil]

Well i also was tuning into durin tc then

[silent comet]

okay i readjusted my build. that is really fucking good damage LMAO

[lyric fossil]

Okay fine i was gawking at a certain two … character models

[vapid current]

the 2 big ones

[silent comet]

2 POUND ANTLERS 5 POUND TIDDIES

[lyric fossil]

Thats one of them

This is the other

[silent comet]

||why does bro look like recolored gallagher||

[lyric fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-sad-crying-skywalker-gif-12607558

[silent comet]

he literally went to the dark side

||this is dains brother right?||

[lyric fossil]

No ||he was never shown||

[silent comet]

oh

||this was younger rerir?||

[plain portal]

Sorry but after seeing varka ||Rerir just look like npc
Also they already ended his playability atp too unless he gets updated model||

[silent comet]

||prolly as cope as capitano coming back coz they share the same model methinks||

[lyric fossil]

The unintended datamine

[lyric fossil]

Oh he will
Both VA and model designs are hot af so i cant take sides

[knotty badge]

GIYS

I HAVE

C6 LISA

FINALLY

FUCK UEAHHHHH

[lyric fossil]

How

[vapid current]

buy her cons from shop

[knotty badge]

NO

PURELY BY PULLING

HAHAHAHA

[vapid current]

whale

[knotty badge]

wtf

GIRL ITS MYL UCK

[silent comet]

whale actually

[vapid current]

whaling on standard too

[knotty badge]

DPS LISA

[vapid current]

[knotty badge]

LESGOOOO

[plain portal]

Yeah not to mention unlike cap who had good characterisation so cope felt more believable here that's not even the case

[knotty badge]

wtf

SROP

i want amber cons now

i have c3

[lyric fossil]

Tbh the ||kids had it coming||

[silent comet]

theres no way you get c3 amber and c6 lisa without buying from shop and purely from pulling

[plain portal]

Simp level over 9999

[silent comet]

what the fuck

that has to be whale

[lyric fossil]

Proud one

[vapid current]

day 1 player I still only have c0 kaeya

[knotty badge]

girl i biy fates with that currency LMFAOO

[knotty badge]

LLLLL i have c2

IM GONNA BUILD ALL MY STANDARDS

🩷

[lyric fossil]

I think i have C2 too

[wintry sphinx]

whale

Stinky whale

[silent comet]

i mean fates are just 1000% more value than the beginning character cons as rare as they are

[plain portal]

As long as you don't go signora mains route of simping which is to say become delusional that's fine

[knotty badge]

fhis is gaslighting

[knotty badge]

exactly

[knotty badge]

HI

AND STOP

IM A DOLPHIN BUT NEVER ON STANDARD EE

[silent comet]

whale

[lyric fossil]

I go there and see the future of rerir and dottore mains

[vapid current]

||the rerir mains get the benefit of their character won't die so there's always a chance.||

[lyric fossil]

He also had the ||thigh strap of playability||

[vapid current]

[lyric fossil]

But another issue is he was ||confirmed heterosexual or least bi||

[silent comet]

check out how much i folded over for this banner. i had 310 initially

to be fair it should've been 240

but the number didnt look nice

[vapid current]

i was gonna say damn 200, u got a lot. then I realised I have more.

[dusty pollen]

@lyric fossil Did you see HSR stream?

[silent comet]

so i threw 40 more to see if i can get luck with a C1

[wintry sphinx]

stinky whales

[lyric fossil]

The gays of the gods wont let this transgression be

[wintry sphinx]

chaos is stinkiest

[vale granite]

neuvi so strong

[lyric fossil]

No i dont play hsr

What happened

[silent comet]

you pulled recently?

[dusty pollen]

If E0 Cyrene really doesn't have as much full energy as in the livestream (which seems like an E2 Cyrene showcase because of her energy bar being more filled up at start), 3.7 is going to be the most explosive version in HSR history

Because of possible false advertising

[lyric fossil]

Oh

Cyrene

[vapid current]

i have nefer. but like uhh. it was split pulls from flins banner trying to get aino cons

[silent comet]

i mean ive pulled for lauma and nefer so i think thats around 150 pulls down the drains for me

[dusty pollen]

CN people already are not happy that Cyrene's kit is very weak for a flagship character, but now it appears there could be potential false advertising in 3.7 livestream

[vapid current]

so nefer only took like 30 pulls

[lyric fossil]

The bricked at beta character ?

[vapid current]

oh. ya I got lauma too

[lyric fossil]

Oof

[mystic smelt]

i feel like you're overreacting but sure why not

[dusty pollen]

Is potential false advertising "overreaction"...?

[mystic smelt]

have a rip at some needed cyrene changes because of the livestream

[dusty pollen]

CN netizens do not like false advertisement at all

[mystic smelt]

is the concept of a unit not being released yet not clicking to you

[vapid current]

famously rational community, the chinese gamers.

[mystic smelt]

we still have creator server and post release before any false advertising happens

[devout void]

How long is the new AQ?
Need to add the hours to the already 15h long AQ 6.0 one that's pending

[vapid current]

its shorter

[silent comet]

i dont play hsr anymore but apparently shes like temu Durin. coz she cant do jackshit if shes outside of amphoreus teams apparently lmoa

[dusty pollen]

... that's why I said "IF", so I am thinking there is any change, but if there is not, then it could be bad

[vapid current]

but its like 5-6 hours

[dusty pollen]

What part of "IF" did you not see

[vapid current]

while the other one was like a solid 8

[silent comet]

durin at least can do something outside of hexenzirkel

but lets be honest he is just a lot better inside hexenzirkel teams

[mystic smelt]

you're overreacting with your "ifs", point still stands

[dusty pollen]

But also like I thought beta 3.7 updates ended very early compared to others

... Then I'll ask when 3.7 goes live

[lyric fossil]

Ah

[mystic smelt]

I don't like forward thinking doomposting like such a hassle

[devout void]

[silent comet]

i mean

its hsr

[lyric fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1422555418189893664/i0521023966.gif

[vapid current]

honestly tho. its consistently pretty good. I feel like there wasn't rly much downtime in this one.

[silent comet]

if she turns out to be really bad then thats one patch of saving. in a game where you literally pull every patch or smth lmao

[mystic smelt]

10 days till 3.7, probably 2 until creator server

even the major story leaks revealed got immediately debunked

[dusty pollen]

Leakers are famously bad about story leaks in HSR lmao

[vapid current]

genshin needs to movie mode the AQs tho.

[dusty pollen]

It's almost as bad as WuWa leaks from what I've saw

[mystic smelt]

i honestly think they're fine turning Cyrene because they know

[dusty pollen]

... well, as bad as that one WuWa leak called "Buling is a girl" could get, like wow it was so obvious 🤯

[mystic smelt]

she's a prophecy for chaos

[lyric fossil]

I liked the scene where ||rerir crosses his victims files||

[runic harness]

who should i get

[lyric fossil]

Nice storytelling to make the viewer feel sick and set the stage

[lyric fossil]

Albedo Nar1N

[plain portal]

Cyrene is good (actual upgrade) for castorice bundle which includes hayacine and evernight, also mydei
There's also anaxa but this dude keeps getting buff anyway
For everyone else she's just worse than tribbie
And if you don't have crysos heir then she's even worse not even a unit actually at that point....

[runic harness]

really

[lyric fossil]

Yes he is top tier now

[mystic smelt]

c1 albedo adds 50% def to his kit

[dusty pollen]

Oh, HXG is saying livestream Cyrene is e6... uh...

Welp, I'll wait for release

And see who's right or what gets change

[runic harness]

do i still use husk on albedo

[dusty pollen]

Anyways

I'm still waiting for v2 or something for beta to get more showcases of Genshin buffs

[silent comet]

i think petra is a good option? idk

i heard from zajef like

petra albedo gives more damage than furina

[molten ermine]

what about Phainon without uh, Cerydra

[silent comet]

idk how true that is tho

[runic harness]

i havent touched his build since forever

i dont even remember what this bum does

[silent comet]

e swap

e swap

thats what he does

[molten ermine]

drop flower (E) and flower does damage every hit
ult (Q) deals more damage with flower on field

[mystic smelt]

in teams with albedo petra gives 42% + 35%

[silent comet]

i think his ult gives EM too?

i forgor

[molten ermine]

Glad they buffed his C4 ngl

[silent comet]

but a lot of the time the ult is so...negligible

[plain portal]

She's taking the 4th slot I'm afraid not replacing cyredra or Sunday
Also iirc painon has anti synergy with cyrene on that lygus boss

[silent comet]

its actually dps loss with how slow the animation is

idk if theyre doing anything about the ult now tho

but apparently razor mona fischl albedo looks real nice rn

[molten ermine]

I kind of just wish they dropped the split scaling

[vapid current]

i agree they occasionally do some interesting things, but in general this is few and far between and the pointless Press F to progress Traveler "dialogue choices" just kinda kill the pacing.

[lyric fossil]

Yes

[silent comet]

mona omen extension by doing normals is pretty neat ngl

possibly strong driver

[lyric fossil]

Even those were done well, like in 5.8 IfaRon world quests

They just need the creativity and time to integrate them

[runic harness]

can you even reach 3k def on albedo

[plain portal]

Mona fischl Bennett xiangling anyone tried that?

[lyric fossil]

No
People dont want to calculate this because of fischl

[plain portal]

What about fischl?

[lyric fossil]

I tried calcing flins overvape and quickly realised tracking two different reactions is hell

Without gcsim

[plain portal]

I mean people already have calculated overvape before not like it's a new thing

[lyric fossil]

Prolly with Xilonen Sig

[vapid current]

no im strictly talking about AQs because they're voiced. I am talking about a movie mode where the story just auto progresses. because in general, a large bulk of the AQs is just dialogue

and often the player input is meaningless

with some exceptions

[lyric fossil]

Yeah you are right
One can put this comp in sim and force these buffs

It is just durin that is an issue

[vapid current]

xiangling in current yr

[lyric fossil]

With his weird icd

[vapid current]

she's gonna be jobless soon

[lyric fossil]

True
Agreed there

That or more cutscenes

[wind wraith]

WOAH WOAH ||HES HERE??|| aq 4 im only doing it now cause i wanted to wait a day

[lyric fossil]

Wait until adeptus resonance comes and she summons guoba clones

https://tenor.com/view/guoba-attack-besties-besties-calling-all-besties-xiangling-gif-22918978

[vapid current]

same reaction

[mossy geode]

Nah there is. Enough to hit lvl12

Prob wont hit 12 though. Im not playing games that are tedious and poorly made to get achievements

Ill stay lvl11 for now

[vapid current]

what if u made ur own game

and got the achievements through it

[lyric fossil]

You can ig

[mossy geode]

Probably possible but game makings pc only

[lyric fossil]

There are xp farms like this

https://fixupx.com/sel_tun4/status/1981453420104913325?s=46

sel (@sel_tun4)

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[mossy geode]

Yeah xp farms my beloveds

Only 1 of them has ever had achievements though, thank you random exp farm

[vapid current]

is this a meme or can u do custom img uploads

thats so wild

[mossy geode]

You can custom img upload 😭

Ive seen almost straight nsfw

[vapid current]

we love zero moderation

[mossy geode]

Ong

[lyric fossil]

Someone fr did it

[grand apex]

Nah why is ZZZ so good wth.

[lyric fossil]

Speedrunning to roblox ‘s current state

[grand apex]

Genshin is Gone vro 💔🥀.

[mossy geode]

Theres a glitch in bridge bsttle where you can just

Jump on an invisible platform and run to the goals to win

I just deranked because of one person doing this every game i got in bruh

[lyric fossil]

No this is tame

And tbh not bad at all

[wind wraith]

this is a meta team i can feel it already also aq spoilers and all that

[vapid current]

honestly. very likely

except for the bum

[wind wraith]

obviously

it is nice ||to see colummbina makking some more friends ||

[limpid galleon]

man

[lyric fossil]

||therapy for everyone on the good side||

[vapid current]

||honestly she's kinda funny in this one. she's becoming funnier. I was indifferent to her on vibes and design, but I like her a lot now.||

[limpid galleon]

i was gonna stay up late but i promised someone id go for breakfast with them

😡

[lyric fossil]

||shes so effortlessly sassy||

[vapid current]

why would u promise breakfast

[limpid galleon]

cuz its the only time shes free tmrw

🥀

https://tenor.com/view/whitebeard-edward-newgate-one-piece-shirohige-cry-gif-26963731

[wind wraith]

im surprised ||she doesnt know who dain is||

[azure trail]

So, I only have one Lunar team. Is there a way to brute force one of two furure Stygian bosses that require a lunar team?

Maybe a double DPS with 2 elementa for the Nefer boss or something?

[topaz bobcat]

[wind wraith]

||no lie i wouldve killed this child. your dynasty is gone bozo ||

[silent comet]

||Port Ormos theme playing here is actually so peak. I wanna go back to that time I first heard this banger||

[topaz bobcat]

The scissors attack reminds me of blade wolf's tail attack from mgr revengeance ult animation is pretty

[long lance]

WHAT THE HELL

uhhhhhhh

welp

[long lance]

did you do it in one sitting?

cause it took me longer ngl

[fallow geyser]

Albedo enjoying the sunlight for a patch

[blazing swan]

Did HSR send all their devs to Genshin?

[vale granite]

star rail whale game now

cyrene bow so expensive

[long lance]

Man wtf

[blazing swan]

I think I’m too out of touch with what’s expensive or not

(Ignore my name)

[vale granite]

omg u getting e6 s5 cyrene?

[long lance]

||That was a lot to process but I feel like I was fighting for my life during that boss battle||

[mossy geode]

I need to do the aq so bad

[blazing swan]

Yeah that’s why in my head it’s not a big deal

[mossy geode]

I need snacks and drinks tho

So lazy

[vale granite]

did u already get the primos in advanced

[long lance]

||Idk if the trial chars are just weak or he has a fuckton of HP||

[blazing swan]

No not yet waiting for patch

[mossy geode]

||both||

[blazing swan]

Because lootbar does discounts on patch release

[long lance]

||I died multiple times||

||No wonder Nefer was hurt from that cause I died as her||

[wind wraith]

||"do i look likke teh kind of guy who can be bought with money?" same energy ngl|| aq act 4 and all that

[mossy geode]

I wish you could be someone besides mc in columbinas little area. I wanna takena picture with her and my ugc chr :(

[long lance]

||I think they improved his voice ngl||

[wind wraith]

||he still sounds kinda dramatic to me but thats what i likke about him. reminds me of cell||

[long lance]

||What vo? I love The Wise's voice ngl||

||Honestly I was hoping to hear Irmin but ofc they're saving that||

[wind wraith]

||Hroptatyr (wise) sounds kind of... fantasy-wise? idk he jjjust sounds likkke that old dude youd find in an rpg who gives off "i know a lot of shit" energy||

[lyric fossil]

||wise is meant to be an upstart young man btw||

also he is definitely ||final villain material||

[wind wraith]

||that was the LAST thing i imagined him as whhen i heard his voice||

[long lance]

||Also Thlondis really just said she'd meet Rerir again then proceeded to get torn to pieces. Kinda dumb ngl||

[lyric fossil]

||of the sinners he is the most evil one and rerir killed the whole opposition and hunted down their descendants. hroap is responsible for irmin's spiralling into abyssal madness||

[lyric fossil]

their fate is left unknown

[fallow geyser]

She just wanted another test subject

[long lance]

||Like y'know test it on something first||

[opal bone]

the fuck

yeahh im not touching any of those i really need to do aq

[long lance]

||Yeah none of the sinners are innocent. Rerir included who's probably never going to be playable tbh||

[buoyant ermine]

That part is pretty good, I really like this and everything going forward with the quest

[molten ermine]

it's been peak, you really should go through it

[lyric fossil]

i hope he is

its okay if anakin got redeemed so can he

[long lance]

||Idk they made it pretty clear||

[opal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-papa-papa-front-man-gif-6520310647408085330

[lyric fossil]

no thhey didnt

they ended it at being a mystery

[topaz bobcat]

Same, I'll finish it by tonight in 1 go

[long lance]

Idk about that

[long lance]

||Given what happened when Rerir went into it||

[empty crag]

Bratty pose

I like it

[lyric fossil]

we dont what happened at that plae

placce

[long lance]

||They made it pretty clear she's probably dead though unless it only attacked Rerir as a form of defense mechanism||

[dense lantern]

Jahoda 🔥 🔥🔥

[lyric fossil]

no we dk

only implied but even then we lack sufficient proof for certainty

[empty crag]

She reminds me of Nozomi with that pose

[long lance]

||That's why they assume though. Guess we'll see, their story in Nod Krai has definitely been wrapped up now||

@lyric fossil

[lyric fossil]

no

it is not ||concluded||

[foggy shuttle]

Who do you think i should choose

[lyric fossil]

though we will get it before it ends

[lyric fossil]

ayaka or tightnari

[wind wraith]

||because ehs not playable duhhh||more aq spoilers

[long lance]

||He has a relationship of course he's not playable smh||

[lyric fossil]

no that spots open for now

[long lance]

We'll see.

[lyric fossil]

||rerir is nod krai secondf weekly boss|| late 6.x spoilers

[opal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-are-you-sure-omni-man-gif-10978130412778304783

[long lance]

||Are you coping? Lol||

[topaz bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/pretty-sure-mark-grayson-maybe-yes-invincible-gif-20907699

[long lance]

||His story in Nod Krai as an Antagonist is over||

[lyric fossil]

no this is legit leaks

[lyric fossil]

no ||it is not, he is returning||

[wind wraith]

o no...

[long lance]

you can keep coping

[lyric fossil]

okay
my king will be playable one day

[twin thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/polariokz-tenis-oguri-cap-saber-gif-10978728852378027155

[long lance]

||He has been banished to Khaenri'ah Chapter||

[lyric fossil]

no.

?

seems you are unfamiliar with the actual mystery of nod krai

[long lance]

||He is dead, jk. Well his story is over kind of||

[long lance]

||Do you not get what I'm saying?||

[lyric fossil]

no

[waxen hull]

being a game dev is so annoying sometimes

like the decisions im making rn are so odd

If a character has no weapon type because they attack with kicks and occasionally their artificial tail, do they count under the String weapon category or the Miscellaneous weapon category

How the fuck do I pick

[inner ether]

How would kicking be a string weapon

[wind wraith]

i love this guy. more spoiiler mhm aq 4

[waxen hull]

I'm talking about their tail

It's an artificial tail sorta like escoffier's cooking tool

[inner ether]

They kick more than they hit with their tail

[waxen hull]

Yeah

[inner ether]

Miscellaneous

[waxen hull]

fair enough tyty

[gaunt marsh]

They don't use any string though so how could that ever be a string weapon

😭 😭 😭

[waxen hull]

its an artificial tail not a biological one

[inner ether]

Maybe the tail is made of string

[long lance]

||Rerir himself is out of the AQ, I don't think he's going to escape wherever he's ended up anytime soon. Obviously this doesn't mean that his story won't be connected to the plot moving forward but he himself is on a start of hiatus you can say||

[gaunt marsh]

Yes but it's a tail not string

[waxen hull]

"String" weapons in my game refer to anything string-like in nature
String itself (thing kafka, yelan, evelyn)
Bows are string weapons too
Chains are string weapons

But since their tail isnt their primary weapon idk if it should count?

The weapon categories are all pretty vague

[gaunt marsh]

Dual scaling

[waxen hull]

its an intentional choice

[gaunt marsh]

[lyric fossil]

yeah there i agree

[waxen hull]

well its not a damage type its an equippable weapon sooo

[inner ether]

Misc it’s misc it’s more than one thing

[gaunt marsh]

Have them be able to equip both

[gaunt marsh]

Dual wield

[waxen hull]

Misc typically just refers to any weapon that doesnt fit into the other key categories (magic, chakram, etc.)

[gaunt marsh]

[muted geode]

@waxen hull

[waxen hull]

Yea?

[inner ether]

So for weapons that could be more than one you just pick one?

[gaunt marsh]

Just use both slots for that then

Ez

[waxen hull]

I wonder if it'd be too weird to have them ABLE to equip a string or misc but only one or the other at a given time
like if raiden could equip mistsplitter instead of a polearm

but there's only one slot

makes them more f2p friendly too so it might be a good idea?

[waxen hull]

it'd also just be weird though

[waxen hull]

BURT

[muted geode]

Ur pfp basically

[long lance]

||I don't think he can be redeemed ngl but you could say playable character morality has certainly changed because of Nefer but Rerir has done much much worse||

[inner ether]

F2P? You’re not going to charge money for your game

[waxen hull]

It's a gacha game

[vale granite]

what's a string or misc

[waxen hull]

Well its a story game with gacha

[gaunt marsh]

Noooooo

[muted geode]

||where did they throw Rerir?||

[gaunt marsh]

Wait this is prime

Monetize on how they can equip several weapon types and have 2 slots or sum

[vale granite]

that sounds so confusing

[waxen hull]

String is anything that contains or acts as a string
So kafka/yelan/evelyn for example, but bow characters are included, chains are included, etc.
Misc is anything not defined by another category
So casting spells (like catalyst units), chakrams, etc.

[vale granite]

what chars will have two weapons available

[waxen hull]

Yeah um no

[muted geode]

||I feel there's no redeeming to be done , he's fueled by his obsession , he just wants to be with his girlfriend or fiancee. Also wild hunt isn't caused by Rerir||

[lyric fossil]

yea
but one can hope

[gaunt marsh]

Cringe

[lyric fossil]

rautvangi yes

[vale granite]

what about stringless

[waxen hull]

There wouldn't be a stringless bow in my game lol

[gaunt marsh]

It's hard to be a game developer lookin ahh cant even make their character dual wield hybrid and multiple slots

[vale granite]

are u making a game

ohhh

[waxen hull]

Yeah lol

[waxen hull]

It's a story-focused game the gacha isn't the focus
Why would I make the weapon system so P2W

[inner ether]

You are my enemy for making a gacha game but also good luck I hope everything pans out well

[long lance]

I mean I'm mixed

[waxen hull]

Tyty!! I've tried to make the gacha system forgiving though so hopefully it's not too bad TwT

[long lance]

||I am actually with how his character turned out tbh||

[inner ether]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[gaunt marsh]

Oh so basically its a story jrpg with light gacha mechanics

[waxen hull]

Yeah sort of

[gaunt marsh]

Make them dual wield anyway

[long lance]

||Also people complaining about the Nefer story part piss me off ngl||

[wind wraith]

||aww thats cute. my goat cyno wouldnt allow that shit tho||more act 4 spoiler

[inner ether]

Woah woah woah

Whatttt

[lyric fossil]

they dont understand why it was tere

[inner ether]

You did not spoiler tag that photo

[gaunt marsh]

Replace one of their other slots (utility, armor) in place for a weapon slot so they dual wield with one on tail and one on hand

[long lance]

weird

i was unsure at first but then i was able to piece it together

[inner ether]

All your ideas are evil

[waxen hull]

Hard Pity: 75
Soft Pity Buildup: Every 10 pulls
Character banners have a 50% chance to give you the rate-up character, and a 50% chance to give you a standard character instead. If you get a standard character, your next 5 star is guaranteed to be rate-up (Typical 50/50 system)
Banners for Gods (6 star characters), both concept and elemental, have no 50/50 system but have increased Hard Pity limits (100)
Each player's first 50/50 is guaranteed
You can increase the chances for which standard character you lose to
You can choose to guarantee a rate-up 4 star if you get the wrong ones twice
Old weapons (maybe after 6 months or a year) will go into a rotating event shop, buyable with in-game resources obtainable for free
Two Ascension Phase materials can be converted to one of the same rarity. In Genshin terms, you can convert 2 of a character's stella fortuna into 1 of another character's, but the characters must share rarity.

that is a text wall

[inner ether]

Never cook again

[waxen hull]

sorry lol

[wind wraith]

no i did

[lyric fossil]

quustion have you played warframe before

[inner ether]

No

[waxen hull]

Yeah I have

[wind wraith]

discord bug

appens to me too

[inner ether]

Ohh

That makes sense

[waxen hull]

This is our game's pity system

[lyric fossil]

i understand your game dev now

[waxen hull]

STC

[long lance]

did you

[inner ether]

Yeah

Discord sucks

[wind wraith]

it be like that somemtimes

[gaunt marsh]

And make it so you can only equip one certain type to each weapon slot which all have no synergy whatsoever cause they aren't adjacent

[long lance]

i've heard people call it jarring which I think is on purpose

[gaunt marsh]

[lyric fossil]

it took me a while to understand the purpose of te segment
i knew why that segment happened in game plot toug

[lyric fossil]

yeah

[waxen hull]

kit writing is fucking hard bro

[inner ether]

You are going to be assassinated if you ever made a gacha

[waxen hull]

how does hoyo do this

[gaunt marsh]

Booba sword

Bow water thing

Fish

[inner ether]

They have an entire development team with hundreds of people and more monetary resources than you can ever dream of

[gaunt marsh]

Bow fire thing

Twink sword water

[long lance]

The AQ would be weaker without it

[gaunt marsh]

Twink bow wind

[lyric fossil]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-gi-rerir-rerir-genshin-gif-13924032698926826640

[inner ether]

This is why we limbus our companies

[gaunt marsh]

Bold of you to assume I could

[inner ether]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-hong-lu-gif-15601412091151338865

We love you hong lu

[gaunt marsh]

Ginger tall twink with bow and swords

[waxen hull]

Hunter's Spirit (Ability)
•Pressing [ability key] on a marked enemy causes Enya to hone in on her prey, which only allows her to target 1 opponent for 20 seconds. In this state she can attack the enemy and double jump after every 3 Normal Attacks to achieve great vertical height, allowing her to deal high Plunge Attack DMG. You can cancel the Hunter's Spirit state prematurely by pressing [ability key]. (Cooldown 4s, starts after the ability duration)

this is a FOUR STAR TAP SKILL BY THE WAY

[wind wraith]

||oh she IS a bitch. a crazy one 😭 || damn what is this quest bruh

[long lance]

||Nefer didn't kill people though she made them kill each other which is big brain||

[inner ether]

DAMN YOU DISCORD

[waxen hull]

icon

she rlly said im not getting my hands dirty

[inner ether]

Count of Monte cristo moment

[lyric fossil]

true

[inner ether]

She wishes she could be Edmond Dantes

[lyric fossil]

rerir ccould have done it too

||the concrete killed them||

[waxen hull]

Dewdrops (Normal Attacks)
•Dewdrops consists of 6 Normal Attacks and 2 Charged Attacks. Ira does a series of 6 continuous strikes dealing Physical DMG to enemies hit. Ira's Charged Attack deals 3 consecutive hits of Physical DMG to enemies hit. During Nymph's Aura, Ira's charged attack becomes Enhanced. The Enhanced Charged Attack causes her to continuously slash enemies within the field of Nymph's Aura, dealing moderate Ripple DMG.

THIS IS A BASIC ATTACK DESCRIPTION

IT TAKES SO LONG TO WRITE KITS

AND FOR WHAT

[wind wraith]

||flexing your relation to cyno is NOT a flex bro 😭 ||haiyah this quest

[waxen hull]

Well technically ||he could be talking about sethos because he's connected to hermanubis too||

[long lance]

||Both these AQ's are the king of awkward moments ngl||

[lyric fossil]

||like flins and varka||

[wind wraith]

||she mentions that too 2 lines later but the big wig is cyno||

||welp 2 more 5 stars in 7.x||

[lyric fossil]

[molten ermine]

jesus christ Cyrene's bow is at least 20k Shards topup worth

[wind wraith]

||HELL YEAH MY GOAT RERIR||

[molten ermine]

HSR became more predatory

what the fuck is going on in HSR devs head rn

[stone portal]

The Sinner yearns for the|| feline life||

[wind wraith]

its just following in its sister game's footsteps

[lyric fossil]

he seemed happier as lumine

[molten ermine]

yikes

[lyric fossil]

bow ?

yyou mean sig ?

[molten ermine]

no, her costume

or her weapon skin

to be exact

20k worth of top up

[wind wraith]

uhh its like if you had to pay 20k gensis crystals to get skirk to change her natural weapon to that of whatever weapon you had equipped

instead ooof it looking ugly or somethinng if you didnt ave her sword

[lyric fossil]

and isnt vcyrene just bad ?

[wind wraith]

FIRST E(-2) CARACTER

[stone portal]

It's not at all the same

Y'all describe it as if it costs 20k

But you buy 20k, then get additional rewards, and are left with the 20k to use freely

Massive difference between these😭

[wind wraith]

its still shit to me personally

[stone portal]

It's additional rewards if you buy 20k shards, not in exchange for 20k

[lyric fossil]

that is just insanse lmmao

[wind wraith]

wheres my Lightcone pulls like arecher

we were cooking so well

[stone portal]

If you weren't gonna top up before this shouldn't and doesn't force you to right now eithet

It's just extra value if someone was already planning to top up

[wind wraith]

then hoyo had to capitalize on the cyrene simps

[stone portal]

Nobody loses anything😭

[wind wraith]

I LOSE MY HAPPINESS

AND MY PARASOCIALNESS

[stone portal]

It's literally just higher value for the customer if they pay, and the same value as before (that is, 0) to people who don't top up

[molten ermine]

it's literally enough to E2 Cyrene no?

[wind wraith]

20k?

thats like 125 pulls

[stone portal]

Uh no it's just 125 pulls

[wind wraith]

if youre lucky sure

but its not really enough for e2

[molten ermine]

Okay, so it's not even enough to get her to E1 too (if you're lucky)

but that is a damn dirty work fr

[stone portal]

Ultimately

If you weren't gonna top up anyways, this changes nothing, because the rewards are pretty irrelevant stuff

If you are topping up, you get a few freebies

There are no losers here

It's just a meh extra reward program

[molten ermine]

because everyone still getting mid stuff in the end

[stone portal]

But it's not tricking anyone or pressuring anyone into anything

[stone portal]

Yes but there is a difference between it being mid and it being predatory and whatnot

[wind wraith]

wy did it have to be my wife

what actually makkes it count as predatory

whats tat line

in the context of sr

[molten ermine]

true
it's just sad how HSR becoming more predatory lately

I mean, if you're not interested with the endgame stuffs, then sure everything is good

[stone portal]

Well hard to say

People have different interpretations

Ultimately can giving more value for a purchase be "predatory"

If giving a better value product is predatory, then economics are in shambles

[wind wraith]

||omg a black hole|| yadda yadda rada rada aq 4

[wind wraith]

I see

[stone portal]

The most predatory thing they could add ig is a unique combat affecting thing that is only available from this paid system

For example a global passive acquired only from that

But as long as it's cosmetic or just an item that is otherwise acquirable, it's hard to frame giving more value to a customer as inherently bad

[wind wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[molten ermine]

is Castorice still the only one with the global passive

[stone portal]

Yes

People really doomed it like everyone would get a global passive and you would be forced to pull every chara to keep up

[molten ermine]

funny how the global passive ended up being rarely used

[wind wraith]

cant wait for yae to get one too raaaah anni units exclusive surly

[molten ermine]

if you're dead in endgame stuff, that is some skill issue in your part

at least, that's what I believe it

[stone portal]

I was always of the opinion that they were gonna very sparingly use it

Cuz they likely don't wanna make a global passive that is just a stat buff

And then they have to craft the passive to a specific powerlevel and it cannot be negative towards any team

So the actual effects they can implement as global passives are not that numerous

[molten ermine]

I mean, it still could happen

very unlikely, but still could

not everyone, at least but maybe some few characters if the devs felt like making them

[stone portal]

Yeah often if you die once, you die again soon

And sometimes it ends up saving you, which is nice, but it's often the kind of thing where you could have avoided death by resetting combat and trying again

So it's often just saving time by sparing me the effort of resetting

Now some people do make runs that specifically rely on the passive to survive an extra turn, and hey if they can so precisely plan their run, I say congratulations

[wind wraith]

||... i need to remember a moment like this... Arle fight?||

[runic harness]

varbum

[bright raven]

|| all of them ||

|| traveler almost always has nothing to do with whatever troubles that are plaguing a nation, but they jump in anyways ||

[grand apex]

I agree lmfao

[long lance]

||Rerir's boss fight was insane I felt like I was fighting for my life ngl||

[bright raven]

i cant wait to experience that

[grand apex]

It wasn't that hard.

[bright raven]

i just watched on youtube bcz i was getting impatient

[molten ermine]

||The part with The Hydro Traveler and Nefer only really had my adrenaline up LMAO||

[grand apex]

That was the hard part fr.

[molten ermine]

||Thank god for the Hydro Traveler's drop water healing fr||

[grand apex]

||Like the Nefer wasn't dealing any damage vro||.

[bright raven]

|| nefer without any hydro is so bad like ||

[grand apex]

I agree and hydro traveler isn't a good applier.

[bright raven]

|| c3r1 nefer, player obvs knew how to use her, and she was doing almost no dmg ||

[bright raven]

...do they even apply hydro?

[grand apex]

It's so bad fr.

[grand apex]

She is not skirk tier at all

[molten ermine]

||so far during the fight that I had to Nefer E first then pew pew with Hydro Traveler E a bit, after the moon stuff filled up, I used Nefer E again with the 3x Nefer Charged Attack during her E||

[long lance]

really?

[molten ermine]

Lunar-Bloom is weird

[grand apex]

It's a little hard,sure but it wasn't insane or anything.

[wind wraith]

||omg actual development?????? I alaways prayed for this day||

[bright raven]

this was so surprising

[wind wraith]

||HHOYL SHIT ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT 😭 ||

||THHANKK YOU HOYOOVERSE MY FUCKKINGGGG GOD THHANK YOU 😭 ||

[molten ermine]

||if you knew her lore, this at least play a good part||

[grand apex]

This AQ was actually so fire.

[wind wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/this-shit-means-something-to-me-man-gif-16040192993841974726

[grand apex]

I hope they make 6.2 AQ even better.

[long lance]

||Did you beat him? I couldn't get his HP down that much but he honestly doesn't let you||

[wind wraith]

||thats why im so hhappy its finally getting brought up||

[grand apex]

Duh obviously, you just gotta spam.

Eventually you'll win.

[molten ermine]

pretty hopeful for that ngl, considering we'll actually see Alice and Nicole there iirc based on the leak

[wind wraith]

||OH MY GOD THIS IS PEAK||

[grand apex]

WANDERER PLEASE, COME BACK.

[molten ermine]

Honestly, I'm especially hyped for Nicole

[grand apex]

We need Wanderer.

[pallid linden]

i keep praying for raiden to come

[grand apex]

I think they'll release Varka before Columbina.

[grand apex]

Copium.

[long lance]

It was easy for you?

[grand apex]

We are not seeing Raiden anytime soon 💔🥀.

[pallid linden]

torn to oblivion the antagonist plzz raiden

[grand apex]

I wouldn't say Easy but it wasn't that hard.

In the middle.

[molten ermine]

where were you when the Mizuki patch out...

[grand apex]

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-genshin-impact-genshin-impact-impact-genshin-gif-26197482

[pallid linden]

i was there

loved each seocnd

[wind wraith]

||i like how detailed te albedo sketch isi||

[grand apex]

You might love Inazuma or something..

[lyric fossil]

it was all done by ||varka iirc||

[grand apex]

It's actually so cute too.

[molten ermine]

Don't think we'll get another Ei anyway, considering she doesn't have any relevancy with Nod-Krai

[pallid linden]

glory to inazuma

[grand apex]

Next year, Maybe we'll see Ei.

[molten ermine]

unless I'm missing some lore ahead but

yeah

[buoyant ermine]

I think the image isn’t spoilers

Spoilered*

[mellow tundra]

I'm a little disappointed in genshin rn

[grand apex]

This year is impossible for Ei to make an appearance unless an event or something.

[wind wraith]

||WAIT SO WY CANT HE SKETCH ME?????????||

[grand apex]

On what?.

[wind wraith]

isa part of quest so i qill be kkind

[mellow tundra]

Like overall the game is improving from how dogshit natlan was

[wind wraith]

oh thats bu

bug

[grand apex]

I agree lowkey, Nod-krai is so much better than Natlan.

[mellow tundra]

But we haven't really gotten anything new or interesting in Nod Krai

We just got 2 fake reactions and their respective coloured physical dpses

[long lance]

Idk I found it difficult

[molten ermine]

I don't mind if they forgot Inazuma ngl
I hated every aspect of it

[mellow tundra]

I don't consider that to be fun or innovative

[buoyant ermine]

I think lunar charge is its own reaction

It’s actually different

[grand apex]

Now that's where I think you should stop.

[molten ermine]

not the character at least

[grand apex]

Because that's UR opinion.

[mellow tundra]

Its close

[mellow tundra]

Correct that is my opinion

[buoyant ermine]

What would you do to make it a full reaction

[grand apex]

Natlan as a whole sucked, but saying Nod-krai is bad, i wouldn't say so.

Nod-krai is like way better, we are getting so much relation, I do agree the new reactions are a bit unnecessary but I still Think it's quite fun imo.

[molten ermine]

Honestly I think the exploration in Nod-Krai played the big aspect here, considering Natlan's exploration was poggers as hell

[long lance]

Ngl I was getting anxious multiple times during it

[buoyant ermine]

Yessss I agree I really loved the Natlan exploration

[molten ermine]

Sure the kuuvahki is nice but

[mellow tundra]

The thing is that while it technically is a real reaction, it #1 does kinda fuckall DMG, and #2 it's just EC but without the clunk

Its still nice and I like it but, it doesn't quite feel... New... Its just what EC should've been

[molten ermine]

nothing beats being a saurian

and asha

[buoyant ermine]

Agreeeef

[mellow tundra]

I didn't say nod krai is bad

I said I'm a little disappointed

[buoyant ermine]

The kuuvhaki is clunky but nod krai compass change is nice

[grand apex]

I mean Nod-krai is a bit worse than that but the compass made it so much easier.

[buoyant ermine]

I liked Natlan exploration more though

I like nod krai story more

[grand apex]

Well that's very valid.

[buoyant ermine]

And then characters it depends on which one

[buoyant ermine]

Why do you think it doesn’t do anything

[molten ermine]

fair, but still, the exploration being actually fun is something

[mellow tundra]

Wdym?

[buoyant ermine]

You said the reaction does fuckall, why do you think that

[long lance]

Did anyone else die in the AQ?

[mellow tundra]

I said it does fuckall DMG

Cause it's just kinda weak

[grand apex]

I mean, I did have alot of fun during natlan expo, but Nod-krai was easier and tbh eased me alot so i like more.

[lyric fossil]

yeah ytou just need to give him beer

[mellow tundra]

And I know that was always the point of EC, to have a team with a lot of talent damage and easy swirls, and some side damage from the reaction

But I wish it was a bit stronger

[long lance]

||I died multiple times during Chess ngl||

[buoyant ermine]

||Same||

😭

[grand apex]

That was lowkey so annoying.

[mellow tundra]

I can give it to LC tho, it's a fun thing to play around with for a month or 2

The issue is that lunar bloom is so garbage that I'm lwk scared of the future lunar reactions

[pallid linden]

i think u are supposed to

[long lance]

It was fun though

I'll admit

[buoyant ermine]

Tbf though you can’t really change how the dendro cores work

[grand apex]

Lunar bloom isn't all that bad(Copium).

[buoyant ermine]

Cause then Nilou wouldn’t work, Nefer wouldn’t work

And they can’t do that

[pallid linden]

||the same song playing over and over in rerir's story drained my life ||

[mellow tundra]

its just bloom with lunar in front of it

And an arbitrary resource

[grand apex]

There's a few differences but sure.

[molten ermine]

Lunar reactions also changes how your artifact build works though no

[grand apex]

Yeah I think so.

[mellow tundra]

name one

[buoyant ermine]

The cores have to stay the same so if you’re not working with the cores you have to do something else

[buoyant ermine]

The meter

[molten ermine]

I mean, you can't rely on the DMG Bonus anymore

[buoyant ermine]

The lunar bloom dmg

Those are different than normal bloom

[mellow tundra]

What meter

[grand apex]

Lunar bloom dmg depends on CD.

[molten ermine]

and had to go with something the Lunar Reactions needed

[buoyant ermine]

The verdant dews

[long lance]

||Ok Trial Flins died to Rerir once and so did some other characters but in my defense I wasn't thinking about rotations and was just endlessly attacking him as much as I could||

[mellow tundra]

Yeah I said arbitrary resource

[grand apex]

And AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, Lunar bloom colour is Dark green.

[buoyant ermine]

Well you said mention a difference

That’s a difference

[grand apex]

It's still a difference.

[mellow tundra]

right

[proud tusk]

clearer footage

[molten ermine]

||Rerir also drains your burst energy btw, which makes it harder to attack him with Flins||

[long lance]

Honestly wonder if there's any way to fail parts of that AQ

[molten ermine]

I learned that the hard way LMAO

[buoyant ermine]

Also lunar bloom dmg is the only type of damage that scales solely off of em

That’s why Llama and Nefer have base em

[grand apex]

Skill issue-

[long lance]

which

[mellow tundra]

I mean... Yeah I'm strictly talking about the reaction

Not the direct reaction DMG, cause that's just boring as fuck

I don't even think it's worth talking about it

[grand apex]

Well then reshape ur argument tbf.

[mellow tundra]

Like yay we have characters who use em as dmg% and ignore def

Insane

[molten ermine]

to be fair, Flins rely on his Special Burst for the big damage

[long lance]

||No wonder Lauma kept not having her burst ready||

[buoyant ermine]

The reaction dmg is part of the reaction

That’s why it’s reaction dmg

[grand apex]

He does indeed but I'm calling getting drained by Rerir the skill issue lol.

[long lance]

||Also Nefer with Traveler doing 30k against Rerir||

[wooden forge]

Lunar bloom barely is a reaction kinda

[mellow tundra]

I don't consider it to be

Well it is for lunar bloom

Cause lunar bloom literally has nothing else

But it isn't for LC

[grand apex]

Unnecessary argument y'all.

[molten ermine]

I'm sad that Nilou doesn't work with Nefer

[buoyant ermine]

Well it’s just a fact

[molten ermine]

sure she's there for the hydro app

but

[mellow tundra]

LC has an actual reaction to it

It would've been much more fun to have characters which directly impact the DoT reaction than to have a def ignoring attack that doesn't like dmg%

[grand apex]

It's just sad now.

Like my poor Nilou </3.

[grand apex]

Arguing with a wall fr 💔🥀.

[mellow tundra]

?

[pallid linden]

im skipping everyone i love for neuvillette escoff and columbina

[mellow tundra]

Why are u being mean what 😭

What did I do

[grand apex]

Escoff and Columbina, i have a feeling they're gonna be a good pair.

[lyric fossil]

neuvillette in 2025 🥀

[long lance]

||I think the only thing that gave me trouble was the Abyss laser ngl||

[pallid linden]

hes the best character in genshin

i love him

[grand apex]

"Every support is a Neuvi support"

[lyric fossil]

design wise ?

[pallid linden]

story wise

[grand apex]

I don't know about that bro.

[grand apex]

Nah there's way better story wise characters imo.

[wooden forge]

If you squint hes still a top 5 dps

[buoyant ermine]

I do agree with that, the thing is lunar reactions were made to fix the “bad” things about the normal reactions. Like the aura thing with EC, and with bloom it’s the fact that you can’t vertically invest in bloom. So the new reactions are just fixes

[grand apex]

Copium.

[buoyant ermine]

When you keep that in mind

[molten ermine]

well, he's still viable, and still looking good

[mellow tundra]

Okay

I don't feel like the things that were introduced in nod krai, aka the lunar reactions and def ignore as a gimmick, are very interesting

I could name at least 2 more interesting concepts to make these lunar reactions more fun to use without just making characters who have a different coloured physical kit

[buoyant ermine]

I don’t really mind the new reactions

[pallid linden]

he just has that aura

[lyric fossil]

ah yes

[buoyant ermine]

Cause there wasn’t really anything else you could do with them

[lyric fossil]

top 5 wheelchair

[wooden forge]

Pls ignore that ineffa does more damage than him in his own team and he’s number 5

[lyric fossil]

yeah he still works

easy to use

[lyric fossil]

the best neuv team has skirk as sub dps

[buoyant ermine]

I love Neuv wheelchairs cause of that

[long lance]

||Also I thought the wild hunt patrol would turn back the other way but then they didn't so I realised you just had to wing it and run in the right direction||

[grand apex]

I don't think he even number 6-7.

[buoyant ermine]

I love it more when Neuv lovers hate on Mualani

[lyric fossil]

this surely means he totally isnt holding TTDS and is doing majority of damage

[mellow tundra]

Number of neuv upgrades since xilonen: 🥀

[molten ermine]

Ineffa also grants you shield though

[grand apex]

Mualani does so much more damage vro.

[lyric fossil]

escoffier
mavuika
citlali
ineffa
skirk
lauma
durin

[molten ermine]

Escoffier is there...

[mellow tundra]

what?

[buoyant ermine]

Yeah they’re mad she’s a real DPS

[grand apex]

Ineffa and citllalli, LAUMA, escoff.

[topaz bobcat]

Yep I saw that from reddit, pretty standard kuro gameplay all around

[mellow tundra]

None of these are upgrades

[long lance]

||Maybe I'm just bad at the game tbh||

[molten ermine]

???

[buoyant ermine]

His best team is with Ineffa and Llama

[grand apex]

Are u serious? They're are still his supports??.

[wooden forge]

His best team is neuv furina lauma ineffa

[buoyant ermine]

Neuv, Fuina, Ineffa, Llama

[mellow tundra]

is everyone here a zajef parrot

[empty crag]

After Chasca and Narwhal nerf, Apep and Xinyan take their place. With that, Gosoythoth deck wins once again but with less effectiveness. That nerf was huge and impactful.

[grand apex]

Llama! My favourite genshin character.

[buoyant ermine]

No girl it’s just a fact

Like you can’t say it’s not

[empty crag]

Victory dance

[buoyant ermine]

That’s just how it is

[grand apex]

Like she can lit nuke.

[mellow tundra]

Ineffa Lauma calcs well at KQMS, it's mediocre anywhere above it

[buoyant ermine]

It’s the team that does the most damage

[mellow tundra]

Yeah, at kqms

[buoyant ermine]

For Neuv

[long lance]

||Anyways that was a peak AQ I have no complaints or issues||

[mellow tundra]

Kqms also states that Mualani is a garbage character

[grand apex]

Guys keep fighting, this is very interesting.

[buoyant ermine]

I mean how much vertical investment are you talking

[grand apex]

MUALANI GARBAGE?! Lmfaooo.

Good joke bro.

[molten ermine]

or the freeze play, Escoffier and flex Hydro/Cryo
which is also nice

[dense lantern]

Who's winning rn

[topaz bobcat]

@proud tusk twinning fr

[mellow tundra]

That's my point

[dense lantern]

Math!!!

[mellow tundra]

Kqms is not a perfect system

[topaz bobcat]

Is amazing!!

[buoyant ermine]

We all agree on that yeah 😭

We also agree on Zajef being delulu

Like when he said Ineffa snapshots

[mellow tundra]

Its a standardized measurement that can make some things appear to be better or worse than they actually are

[molten ermine]

you believing KQM more is already a red flag ngl

[mellow tundra]

Like for example neuv ineffa lauma

[grand apex]

Calling Mualani trash has to be a crazy statement fr.

[mellow tundra]

I didn't say anything about kqm

[buoyant ermine]

But Neuv, Furina, Llama, Ineffa is still his best team at C0 investment, it’s just a fact 😭

[mellow tundra]

I didn't say this either

[wooden forge]

Mualani worse in practice than the sheets say kinda

[grand apex]

Nah I'm not talking about u, I'm just saying that's a crazy statement.

[long lance]

||Thlondis VA sounded very familiar but idk why||

[wind wraith]

||shes just sitting witout a care in thhe world bruh||

[mellow tundra]

Fun thing is this team already falls behind at just a higher artifact investment, and the second you get a cons or Sig on neuv it's just worse

[grand apex]

Nah I think we can change "Lauma" to Esco or someone else.

[long lance]

@wind wraith what part are you at?

[pallid linden]

||i love when characters group up from across different regions||

[buoyant ermine]

Yeah agreed

But

[wooden forge]

So then its neuv furina escoffier skirk at around the same powerlevel

[grand apex]

I agree.

[buoyant ermine]

We’re talking C0

[mellow tundra]

I'm not

[buoyant ermine]

If you’re talking investment then that’s just another conversation

[pallid linden]

wouldve been better if there was inazuma

[molten ermine]

||one thing for sure it's not Skirk's ENG VA
which is a missed opportunity considering her and Rerir's ENG VA are a couple||

[wind wraith]

uhh hhere

[grand apex]

Shut it.

[grand apex]

||Rerir was so shocked to see Dain lmfao it's funny||.

[topaz bobcat]

https://x.com/Nepnepping/status/1981736600326250789

Nepnepping (@Nepnepping)

Yeiii

X · Oct 24, 2025, 2:56 PM

[pallid linden]

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-gif-22276321

[mellow tundra]

I have no opinion on dual carry neuv, I haven't done or seen any calcs for it, and I don't have experience with it, so I'm not gonna comment on it

[grand apex]

Lowkey I'll say, if Inazuma didn't have the swordfish thingy, it would be a better Aq than Liyue for me.

[mellow tundra]

I just used her as an example of how faulty KQMS can be

Since she sheets terrible at kqms but in practice she's a top tier carry

[grand apex]

I agree :3.

[proud tusk]

they will be greate student and teacher relationship

[long lance]

||Wonder what caused Nefer's eyes to bleed ngl||

[grand apex]

We are finally getting more Sumeru Lore too, hooly peakkk.

[lyric fossil]

mualani is one of the units who benefit from kqms

[lyric fossil]

exerrtion

[grand apex]

Wrong reply sorry.

[lyric fossil]

that lore is about ||dottore|| event quest spoilers

[long lance]

||My guess it was from using her powers||

[grand apex]

this is gonna be fun

[long lance]

How

[buoyant ermine]

I want the Sumeru quest to get here already, the one where we see all the Sumeru people again

With the free Collei

I miss sumeru

[grand apex]

I just wanna see my baby Nilou again.

[buoyant ermine]

Yessssss

She’s a legend

[long lance]

I do know the moment when it happened though

[buoyant ermine]

I want to see her and Kaveh cause I like all the bloom units

[grand apex]

Haven't seen Nilou since the fucking durin quest.

[wooden forge]

All the sumeru characters should get buffed

[grand apex]

We need more Nilou screentime.

[proud tusk]

@topaz bobcatalso have you seen Zani skin ?

[long lance]

||Right after the failed Kuuvahki Shield she activates an unknown power||

[wooden forge]

Esp wanderer my wanderer is still level 40

[buoyant ermine]

The Akademya and desert buffs

[grand apex]

I don't know about "all" but some should definitely get buffed like Wanderer and Nilou.

[solid dust]

Guys how many events in next hit hsr patch?

2?

[wooden forge]

1

And a new endgame

[solid dust]

[buoyant ermine]

I think Kaveh should get buffed, even his C6 isn’t good

[mellow tundra]

I'm kinda sad Abt the future of nod krai too

The mondstadt buffs are cool but Durin looks... 😐

And like, genuinely what can Columbina even realistically do?

Personal DMG okay, sure, she wouldn't have access to vape tho
Em buff? She's just significantly better for nefer than she is to flins
EMM buff? Same thing but vice versa
Atk buff? Not happening
CV? Oversaturated on both characters
I guess she can give Elevation or have a really strong moon sign benediction but then she's just bad for anyone who isn't from Nod Krai?

[buoyant ermine]

I wish his pop thing was every second instead of 3 seconds

[solid dust]

Wow 1 is some crazy shit lol

[buoyant ermine]

Damn you really like to complain 😭

[grand apex]

The last time kaveh was relevant and he was deleting people's world's.

[buoyant ermine]

Mood tho

[mellow tundra]

I'm passionate about the game

[buoyant ermine]

True he will never be relevant again

[mellow tundra]

Its not out of hate

I'm just worried

[buoyant ermine]

Fair

[long lance]

do the AQ smh

[grand apex]

Nah Genshin is now scared of him.

[grand apex]

I lowkey agree, I'm also worried, looking at Genshin rn, it's becoming fucking Nikke </3.

[solid dust]

She is literally made for nodkrai characters.. you aint putting furina for nodkrai characters.

[lyric fossil]

wdym

[mellow tundra]

Do you want genshin Cyrene?

[wooden forge]

Idk but i hope she brings my nefer and columbina up a good 30%

[solid dust]

Specialist buffers are always better than general buffers in a team

[wind wraith]

||it was a mangekyo sharingan moment||

[long lance]

||Did I skip some details on the AQ tbh? Feels like I did but maybe I didn't||

[mystic smelt]

yawning

[mellow tundra]

Correct, but tell me what kind of specialist buff she could give

[solid dust]

I really dont mind cyrene..you can always skip.

[grand apex]

Idk it's called Nikke or Nikki, but it has the same system as it, to get like cosmetics, you have to pay money even for the smaller things, and they keep on adding irrelevant things just for money, Like these Greedy MFS.

[wooden forge]

Elevateee

[mellow tundra]

Yeah that's what I thought too

[lyric fossil]

warframe but greedy

[grand apex]

Genshin is slowly falling down this path.

[mellow tundra]

Cause everything else is either abundant, or much better for one character than the other

[solid dust]

Cyrene as a unit is pretty mid anyway. Just use tribblers

[wooden forge]

Im fully ignoring ugc its ass

[solid dust]

[grand apex]

I think in Nikki, you literally have to pay to progress in the game vro.

[lyric fossil]

That is oof

[long lance]

||I kinda wished Alice or Nicole showed up but the fact they didn't makes me even more excited for the next AQ||

[grand apex]

Genshin please upgrade urself..

[solid dust]

Nodkrai characters are suffering from dogshit teammates currently..if columbina fixes that..she will be super good.

[mystic smelt]

ngl these concerns when venti is getting a 3-4 cost meta dps team is definitely uh, something

[solid dust]

Current nodkrai characters have potential to mog top dps

[buoyant ermine]

Why are we hating on Aino she’s a legend

[grand apex]

In Columbina we trust.

[mellow tundra]

If she doesn't then she's literally not even worth pulling since she'd be weaker than cons

[topaz bobcat]

Idk what either of their character is like tbh, since I haven't played their quests

[solid dust]

Its just there team is shit currently

[topaz bobcat]

[mellow tundra]

+1 cost

[long lance]

||What did Aino's buff during the Rerir fight actually do btw||

[grand apex]

The only good thing about her gameplay is that she's a nod-krai character lowkey.

[buoyant ermine]

She also has short cooldowns which is good

And her cons aren’t too bad

[mellow tundra]

That's the main point

[grand apex]

Others are just better btw.

[mellow tundra]

Since the hydro options for flins and nefer are complete dogshit