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lyric fossil
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Yeah fair enuf

wet leaf
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Yeah I was replying to this

lyric fossil
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And ngl
Mualani is better for overworld explo than mav

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When it comes to clearing camps that is

wet leaf
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That's cap, mav bunnyhop is too fast

lyric fossil
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No i meant for clearing camps

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With mav you need to use setup burts
For mualani its just skill cast

bright raven
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Ah

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I'm more of a

lyric fossil
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And mua cd is very low as well

bright raven
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Random bullshit go person myself

wet leaf
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Just get c1+ mav

bright raven
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I cba to learn combos

undone heron
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random bullshit go is exactly what ol mav is

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low risk low skill high reward

wet leaf
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No no ol mav is CDCD2CFCDCD2CFCDCDE

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If you're not using this then wtf is wrong with you

lyric fossil
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Rn i am dealing 200k per vape with mualani and pmc, no AP
I think by the end of maxing out mua and her wep and talents ill be in 700k vape territory ?

wet leaf
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It's too bad durian isn't helping

undone heron
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mualani kit was aged from the start anyway

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she never had the flexibility

lyric fossil
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I am putting all my money on him being a modern pure main sub dps unit

wet leaf
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Actually there is a chance he might still be good for mua even if he doesn't shred hydro

lyric fossil
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His own dpr exceeding 70k

wet leaf
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That's how low the bar is for pyro applicators rn

undone heron
lyric fossil
hoary crest
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i'm still playing raiden in 2025... My goal is to last long enough for her to either get a direct buff or an alternative form

undone heron
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mualani runs on screenshot dmg with aura tax so she is bound to fall off sooner

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i too would play my raiden if i whaled for her

lyric fossil
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Flins C1 pls come early

wet leaf
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Raiden still might have a future if we get a polearm that supports and isn't favge

limber heath
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i mean shred isn't that important for Mualani

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you have Xilonen and VV Sucrose for that

fringe cairn
limber heath
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2 CA + Final

fringe cairn
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C2F?

wet leaf
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That isn't even the weird part btw, I made it deliberately confusing lol

limber heath
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be honest, no one except speedrunner use any kind of Mav combo
99% of people do donut and miss half their melt hits

fringe cairn
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i do C2FD CD C2FD CD C2F

toxic juniper
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I like doing just cd till the end
That seems simple enough for me

wet leaf
limber heath
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i still don't know how people do CDCD2CA part so quickly

wet leaf
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That's electro app + ~20 teamwide energy + weapon buffs

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Surely raiden just needs a better wheelchair and I've got hopes with durian

hoary crest
fringe cairn
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getting it fast enough for the speedrun tech with melts is really hard
like in this: https://vxbilibili.com/video/BV1UzerziEg2/
i can't do it
but just slipping in a few decent C2FDs isn't too bad

連凹10小時, 凹暈了
從100暴擊陸陸續續醬到60多暴擊,
手法Q ZszPssZZpsZszZPssZ-zPssZzsZZ.....
我願稱為究極挺胸手法
後面其實還能打4融, 不過我冰沒對上, 對齊冰附著的容錯感覺不到3幀...
滿暴取消s手法理論4000w-4100w,我不知道誰貸的4300w

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hoary crest
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but it's not much longer now before she's nigh unusable

limber heath
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when i dash with her i have to wait half a sec for the animation to finish, only then she is able to do C
but for some reasons people can skip this part

wet leaf
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Basically raiden national on steroids

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Also durian seems to do burst damage and again, raiden buffs that too.

hoary crest
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except raiden isn't hexenzirkel

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so durin likely won't be shill for her

deep niche
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FOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

wet leaf
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When he is using his damage stance

limber heath
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but the new sword buff burst dmg when your energy cost is low

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so eosf won't be that good

vapid current
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chongyun could be hexenzirkel

hoary crest
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either way, durin buffing overload teams for electro dps would just send varesa higher as much as raiden does

wet leaf
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Also his weapon has 608 base atk so he will prob be an atk scaler. C2 leak buffs 50% damage bonus apparently (take all this with a grain of salt)

undone heron
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the way i havent seen a reliable kit leak of durin

hoary crest
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so the gap will still be huge

bright raven
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There's always something to be done

undone heron
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no one can even back up if the res down is a passive or a con E_pepelol

bright raven
wet leaf
limber heath
hoary crest
undone heron
limber heath
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i don't think Durin will buff OL team

bright raven
undone heron
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why is kirara in that shit

bright raven
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What is raiden again?

undone heron
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just lying mfs

bright raven
wet leaf
hoary crest
wet leaf
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But the current leaks say he can shred electro

undone heron
bright raven
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"hexenzirkel" is likely not actual name

limber heath
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well Chevreuse already does that

wet leaf
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Which isn't crazy or anything when you already have shred from chevrolet

hoary crest
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the actual passive name is "family and friends"

vapid current
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honestly, i still find that hard to believe. like, genshin does have factions with the racist weps and passives, but they're pretty defined in-game via regions/visions. this is not a defined faction at all. it just is so random lol

vale granite
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is durin going to work with mavuika

bright raven
limber heath
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i don't think anyone gonna be better than Mav for Varesa OL tbh

hoary crest
wet leaf
hoary crest
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that's a literal "made by raiden" stamp

bright raven
wet leaf
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Weird thing is you lose scroll

bright raven
hoary crest
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if raiden laid eyes on him, she'd recognize her handiwork

undone heron
wet leaf
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Mav + clorox lets you have iansane and a mavuika so I can't imagine clorox getting buffed by durian either

vapid current
hoary crest
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she forgot him for the time being

bright raven
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Yeah this person im friends with has an electro tattoo definitely means he's a creation of the shogun!

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And that he likes her!

vapid current
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or in main story even

bright raven
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Definitely my bestie now!

vapid current
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are the nod krai cast gonna be family and friends?

bright raven
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Why would durin like her like

bright raven
wet leaf
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I only trust the kokomi leak which didn't contain simulanka chars iirc

hoary crest
bright raven
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Some like aino ineffa jahoda and probs varka

bright raven
hoary crest
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the passive doesnt make any sense

bright raven
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Navia and nilou should be there too

vale granite
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does durin have moonwheel

deep niche
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i thought i wud chill out in this place after a long study session. reading these chats give me more brain dmg

bright raven
wet leaf
bright raven
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I hope we see him getting his vision though

limber heath
wet leaf
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He is positioned to be a hexenzirkel shill, so I doubt he'll have moonsign as well

bright raven
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Clorox?

wet leaf
toxic juniper
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Chlorine

vapid current
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anyway fuck durin, what is jahoda gonna do.

bright raven
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Isn't Sara's duration too small for most people

vale granite
vapid current
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lunar swirl

bright raven
deep niche
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varesa mavui clorox chevrolet

vapid current
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idc about durin

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he's a snoozer

bright raven
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das why shoo

wet leaf
limber heath
bright raven
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Aino is mini bina

deep niche
bright raven
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Jahoda is obviously mini varka

limber heath
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there is no such thing as bol support

undone heron
vale granite
safe smelt
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ok the new abyss is kinda super annoying

deep niche
undone heron
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but never zero E_pepelol

lyric fossil
deep niche
safe smelt
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12 2 2 is so tanky without ascendant gleam

lyric fossil
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The bisexual vishap ?

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Oh sigurd

deep niche
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lmfao

safe smelt
bright raven
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Bisexual vishap

safe smelt
wet leaf
limber heath
lyric fossil
wet leaf
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Especially when you have the trooper after that

bright raven
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This is not a good patch for me...

lyric fossil
safe smelt
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12 2 2 without ascendant gleam is basically a boss with effectively at least 10.2 mil hp

lyric fossil
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Mavuika melt cleared sigurd for me in two rots

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And the fat wild hunt too

deep niche
vale granite
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how do u do ascendant gleam without flins

deep niche
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ty

limber heath
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flins might be the most blatant shill unit ever

wet leaf
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Flins is a bum

safe smelt
wet leaf
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Worse than varesa at c0 r0 but shilled content makes him out to be op

vale granite
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when natlan came out at 5.0 did we already get night soul armor enemies like now

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new char shilling too much

undone heron
vale granite
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what if u don't have ascendant gleam

lyric fossil
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I need rituals for early Flins C1 anyone recommend ?

opal bone
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dn

lyric fossil
thorn sun
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Hoyo throwing Mualani into the garbage with that Durin vape nerf

lyric fossil
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Gib me dn ✂️

deep niche
safe smelt
vale granite
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how is durin going to be meta if the new abyss needs ascendant gleam on both sides

wet leaf
opal bone
lyric fossil
wet leaf
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Prior to the nerf I thought vape supp was gonna be the main thing

lyric fossil
thorn sun
opal bone
wet leaf
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But if they're nerfing his vape shred then maybe his damage stance will be extremely good

bright raven
vale granite
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ohhh

bright raven
lyric fossil
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Will do it tomorrow when 60 primos credit

bright raven
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Lmao

thorn sun
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when he finds out he got nerfed

deep niche
lyric fossil
limber heath
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did they post Nefer kit officially yet?

wet leaf
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Based on the wording this will work

undone heron
thorn sun
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remember that stuff?

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on field cryo nicole, off field alice

bright raven
thorn sun
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they might legit do something like that

lyric fossil
wet leaf
lyric fossil
limber heath
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big Xiangling

deep niche
wet leaf
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80% em multi is just crazy

thorn sun
lyric fossil
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Anyway i am skeptical of on field durin until his beta and Columbina

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Columbina for sure is support

wet leaf
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I am hoping the plunge durian idea works

lyric fossil
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Dps bina dead in ditch

bright raven
undone heron
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she should be a support

lyric fossil
wet leaf
bright raven
undone heron
wet leaf
bright raven
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Or maybe varka wanderer...

lyric fossil
undone heron
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bc sandrone is geo

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😌

lyric fossil
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But if nicole is cryo why even pull her

bright raven
limber heath
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why not?

bright raven
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Not everyone is meta shill

deep niche
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pretty ugly

undone heron
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people pulled skirk sober

lyric fossil
limber heath
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i never skipped any cryo woman

bright raven
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Im pulling durin because he's my son

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Even if he gets a sigewienne kit

lyric fossil
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But yeah someone has to be cryo for nod krai

wet leaf
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I'm likely pulling durian to validate this c6 r1 furina

lyric fossil
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Hoping they are support though

undone heron
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offielders always age slower than carries its always a good thing if ur fave is a 5 star offielder

lyric fossil
bright raven
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We call susbedo dorian

wet leaf
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Durian gray

limber heath
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my reason for pulling Durian is simply to upgrade Clorinde/Varesa and Mualani
if he doesn't do any of that it's a skip

wet leaf
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Actually albedo might be legit rn too

lyric fossil
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I might get Escoffier for Ganyu ngl

wet leaf
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Cause he can em buff durian and also scam petra

lyric fossil
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Now that i can give TFGM to her

bright raven
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Im building albedo

wet leaf
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I am thinking favge ins bot albedo

bright raven
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That fucking hypostasis

limber heath
wet leaf
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With a seperate petra user

bright raven
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Is so stupid

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It pmo

lyric fossil
bright raven
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Can't we just

wet leaf
bright raven
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Get it to be quicker

lyric fossil
bright raven
undone heron
lyric fossil
bright raven
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Also is gtbedo worse than ins bedo

bright raven
lyric fossil
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Jk

bright raven
lyric fossil
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With durin you want more EM on him

bright raven
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That was a time

lyric fossil
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So insta or Ap bedo

limber heath
wet leaf
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More specific example would be like: fufu / albedo / durian / sucrose A_HmmTaoFlip

wet leaf
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Pamber suc

bright raven
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... either 10k or 1k it was baby age i used to be A_JoyTao at timy dmg

lyric fossil
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PAmber suc ?

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Ah

vale granite
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me have petra on zhongli while casting hold e try to create crystallize

wet leaf
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Petra furina obviously

bright raven
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What does petra do

lyric fossil
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But yeah flins is cool to play but having no sig makes me frustrated

lyric fossil
limber heath
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do you not have Xianyun?

lyric fossil
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You get PECH damage bonus for picking up shard

bright raven
vale granite
limber heath
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she is best Furina support

bright raven
bright raven
wet leaf
limber heath
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this is c6 Furina

wet leaf
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So might even work without bennett

bright raven
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Ah

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Nvm

deep niche
bright raven
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Nice

undone heron
wet leaf
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Petra xilo is for losers

bright raven
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i would rather scroll

wet leaf
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If you're based you use petra on a non geo

lyric fossil
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I think nod krai album has the most songs i have downloaded

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26

bright raven
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I don't like navia because i gotta collect shards

limber heath
undone heron
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then why u dense

wet leaf
bright raven
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Yeah but

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Still

limber heath
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i still live in 1.x era, i still use petra in Mualani team for 2 cost dire run

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very dense indeed

lyric fossil
undone heron
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petra xilonen resurgence happened bc her anims make her run towards the shard

wet leaf
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In fact what I do is just tap e for the first one and then always hold e in the next

bright raven
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I only do trials and IT runs with her

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Not a lot of experience

lyric fossil
undone heron
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and yunjin anim E for some funny reasons

deep niche
wet leaf
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Navia is really easy generally

undone heron
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i remember the days people used to run petra bennett

bright raven
bright raven
limber heath
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we are talking about optimal gameplay and you here talking skill issue gameplay
we are not the same

wet leaf
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Her combo after a single e is either n3d n2 or n3 swap generally

limber heath
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not you

undone heron
deep niche
wet leaf
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Sometimes n2d n2d, but either way it's not complicated

undone heron
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petra users stinky

lyric fossil
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So equipment i need to upgrade asap

Flins asc
Mualani asc
PJWS
Ring of Yaxche
Favge for Aino
Aino
Aqua Simulacra
Favbow for Collei
Collei

bright raven
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Yesterday i was trying to play and all the attacks were so bunched tgt i was feeling like i was on priv server

bright raven
deep niche
wet leaf
limber heath
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veggies

lyric fossil
wet leaf
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Ah

deep niche
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woah c6 ecoli

limber heath
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Collei is pretty good if you just want dendro app

bright raven
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Aino just level

lyric fossil
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I realised i am not gonna get luna IT this month
So may as well improve for the elements and months that i can access

limber heath
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which is what you need in IT

undone heron
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my aino lvl 40

lyric fossil
deep niche
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aino can be stuck at 70 with 4* artis. u only need her for burst and ascendant

limber heath
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character dmg dont matter much in IT, you just need to do reactions

wet leaf
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I managed to barely clear lunar by giving every random mfer scroll

undone heron
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what is sms

lyric fossil
deep niche
lyric fossil
deep niche
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just need appli

lyric fossil
deep niche
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then what?

lyric fossil
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She can contrib to rLEC
And SMS gives LR% and EM

bright raven
bright raven
bright raven
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I slapped on from the secret chamber things

undone heron
lyric fossil
deep niche
lyric fossil
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Am 4k mora from bankruptcy

lyric fossil
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Fav >>>>

bright raven
steady hornet
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is nefer worth it

deep niche
bright raven
steady hornet
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or should I continue for bina

bright raven
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Fav better

undone heron
lyric fossil
bright raven
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That's kaveh's bis better

lyric fossil
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And support pieces from flins set

deep niche
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wel shit

undone heron
wet leaf
deep niche
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alr

bright raven
undone heron
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otherwise she a bum

deep niche
steady hornet
lyric fossil
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If flins c1 comes early ill be happy
Then two patches of saving for columbina

wet leaf
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Most calcs with the new frame assumptions with nerfher / kuki / aino / llama are ~120k dps

deep niche
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so nefer is a must pull if i hav lauma

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I WILL HAV WHATSAPP YELAN

lyric fossil
steady hornet
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is sig weapon needed for nefer or can I make due w her f2p option?

deep niche
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ok lauma yelan whatsapp yelan aino

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nice

wet leaf
steady hornet
lyric fossil
steady hornet
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😲

deep niche
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damn i gotta gamble

undone heron
wet leaf
steady hornet
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and shes running w furina weapon too, which ik is objectively mid

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but idm losing tonit

wet leaf
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Which is slightly higher than her c1. C1 is also very good

deep niche
vapid current
undone heron
deep niche
wet leaf
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There is not much reason to use xingqui

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Just go with aino

deep niche
wet leaf
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Like the funny thing rn is there is almost zero reason not to use llama / nerfher / kuki / aino

deep niche
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BABARA

steady hornet
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Mona duh

wet leaf
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And this is basically her premium team rn even though it doesn't seem like it

deep niche
lyric fossil
wet leaf
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If you're wondering why kuki, it's because spread is relevant for nerfher and kuki can also be an ins and sapwood bot

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Also gives sustain

deep niche
undone heron
lyric fossil
deep niche
wet leaf
lyric fossil
vapid current
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im not running a 4 star artifact set

deep niche
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oooo

vapid current
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u cant make me

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i dont keep any of them

undone heron
vapid current
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i dont even know which domains give instructor

wet leaf
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It's just sms and ins

vapid current
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problem for who

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not for me

deep niche
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need to get 4 pc hp mainstat instructor

wet leaf
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g!info

molten mapleBOT
wet leaf
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This is how I'm building kuki for the nerfher team

lyric fossil
wet leaf
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Atk to maximize lunar resonance, sapwood for the leaf buff

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You can build solely atk and em, nothing else is gonna matter

undone heron
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my 4ins set is just high crit so anyone can proc fav

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FAV CHURCH

hoary crest
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i wanna reach top 10 but it's a long path...

vapid current
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5.2% useless stat A_HuPensive

wet leaf
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Wtf that's a goated build

undone heron
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mav c6 is actually nice bc i love the extra graphics at c6

deep niche
# molten maple

its just weird to me if i see kuki having anything other than flower of paradise lost or gilded

hoary crest
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low key i only got c6 because my artifacts were so cracked

hoary crest
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woulda felt like a waste of luck if i didn't c6 mav

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i was c2 before

hoary crest
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i can make it to top 10 easy

wet leaf
hoary crest
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idk if that's easier or if better sands/circlet is easier tbh

wet leaf
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Even if columbus replaces aino, kuki might be a mainstay

undone heron
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columbina will change the game

hoary crest
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i wanted to play moon comp with ei columbina lauma nahida

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but it's probably not gonna be very good

wet leaf
hoary crest
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why's that? it's meant to be a hyperbloom team

deep niche
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columbus

wet leaf
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Ineffa can hb too

hoary crest
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and it's supposed to be thematic not necessarily best in slot

wet leaf
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And lc proc on top of that

deep niche
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i hope columbus is like astra yao/ robin/ ciaccona

hoary crest
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i'm assuming columbina will be able to LEC too

wet leaf
vapid current
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i hope columbina is an on fielder

hoary crest
vapid current
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nooo... at c0...

wet leaf
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I think durian has the most potential with raiden

hoary crest
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it doesn't matter because he'll buff all the other electros just as much

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besides flins

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ergo raiden will still be horrendously crept

wet leaf
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Cause raiden national even rn is like 72k dps

vapid current
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clorinde getting support D_ZhongPogUPoint

lyric fossil
vapid current
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even tho the only reason I would get durin is if jahoda is on his banner

lyric fossil
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On field support

wet leaf
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When you put it into perspective that isn't that bad

lyric fossil
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Overvape flins with aino

wet leaf
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And durian is just gonna be a xl on steroids

wet leaf
lyric fossil
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Durin is barred from shredding Hydro cryo

long lance
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why are people doomposting durin

lyric fossil
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He can support the other five no issues

vale granite
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is rational still good

wet leaf
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Tenacity favge raiden (which is the main appeal for the raiden durian agenda)

long lance
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is he bad?

lyric fossil
wet leaf
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Raidurian

lyric fossil
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Rather

lyric fossil
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He is seeming to be too strong

vale granite
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rational so hard now cause of the night soul enemies

long lance
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or just typical restrictions

vale granite
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now lunar enmies

hoary crest
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raiden national isn't her current best team, or even close at c0

lyric fossil
hoary crest
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rn i think it's like 80-85k double hydro raiden with xilonen?

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if i'm not mistaken

lyric fossil
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He can only shred geo anemo dendro electro pyro now

wet leaf
long lance
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i'd wait for actual beta

lyric fossil
undone heron
lyric fossil
undone heron
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actual normal takes

lyric fossil
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It makes sense

undone heron
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bc the unit isnt even real until i see the numbers

long lance
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are they nerfing him or is there probably gonna be another pyro 5* releasing this cycle who will have those two gimmicks hmm

lyric fossil
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Flins- Aino - EMC/ Kuki/ Ineffa - Durin might be new premium

wet leaf
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Also xingqui is a bum but his unnecessarily strong hydro app is actually necessary for xl compared to furina for example

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Meanwhile fufu might be enough for durian

lyric fossil
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Big XL rumour turning out to be true

undone heron
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no numbers

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he can have dehya mvs

wet leaf
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Meaning I am predicting a potentially goated raiden team with furina and durian

lyric fossil
undone heron
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the just came out with aino and nefer

lyric fossil
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Wdym

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Nefer is a premium dps and aino is really good

wet leaf
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Tenacity favge raiden gonna be goodge for that

vale granite
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is durin best team going to be benny mona kazoo

lyric fossil
lyric fossil
undone heron
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im not gonna take someone serious saying aino is good when u dont even need to level her and her talents to be useful

wet leaf
undone heron
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thats literally just filling a hole

vale granite
wet leaf
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I think mona being bis in teams will be likely though

lyric fossil
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Esp with cons

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And her artefact set and fav

vale granite
lyric fossil
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People downplay aino so much A_HuPensive

undone heron
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good unit means a good kit on base

wet leaf
lyric fossil
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Her kit is good enough to put her in top 10% ile of four stars

wet leaf
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Low field time requirement, good c1 and c6

lyric fossil
#

Good E for hydro app and directing, unconditional Turret and great cons

lyric fossil
wet leaf
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Yeah i have been glazing aino a lot tbh

lyric fossil
#

It will always track and attack target

wet leaf
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She's not op by any stretch but she's a good character overall no cap

vale granite
#

doesn't it help alot that u need ascendant gleam for new abyss and aino is the only 4 star option for that

wet leaf
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People heavily underestimate decent buffs + low field time req

vale granite
#

is like when dendro mc was top meta

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when dendro came out

lyric fossil
undone heron
#

usability is tied for an open slot

wet leaf
#

Sucrose is crazy for this very reason. Aino is like that but not to the extent of sucrose obviously

undone heron
#

if she was not nod krai she is garbo

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😭

wet leaf
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Yea sms is definitely part of the appeal

undone heron
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thats what ive been saying all along

lyric fossil
wet leaf
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Fact is aino is a better hydro than most currently

undone heron
lyric fossil
undone heron
#

candace is still a shit unit even with her arle compatibility

lyric fossil
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Esp if you get aino cons

wet leaf
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There's even a new mualani team with aino that's quite good

lyric fossil
#

Where you dont burst on her

vapid current
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aino has use an unconditional hydro app. u dont have any options for that with 4* other than like... barbara

wet leaf
undone heron
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bc if we had to equate everything with outside gimmicks i would say all units that have multi hits are good because they can all proc fav well within a 2s field time

wet leaf
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The team is mualani / aino / llama / mav

lyric fossil
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Oh mav

wet leaf
#

Btw the em buffs you get here are comical

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Instructor + sms + forest regalia + aino c1

lyric fossil
vapid current
#

and even ur 5* options for it have their downsides. furina being basically healer mandatory, and kokomi jellyfish is not as big

vale granite
#

at least natlan doesn't force u to 2 night souls like nod krai ascendant gleam

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and in 6.0 beta it used to be 3 too

undone heron
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they should never pull this shit again

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imagine ur night soul being locked to having 2 natlan units

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mualani DOA forever

lyric fossil
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His first proper teammates were in 5.3

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Actually, 5.2

undone heron
lyric fossil
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Ororon can work with kinich

lyric fossil
undone heron
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but pmc is not a natlan unit

lyric fossil
#

But yeah

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I see your point

wet leaf
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Carried by scroll

lyric fossil
#

Kimchi would have to cope with ororon

lyric fossil
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They have a lot of options

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Scroll, totm, inst, ap , etc

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I see pmc as a must build unit for f2p

wet leaf
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Aside from ol teams where are you running pmc

lyric fossil
#

The utility isnt top tier but its there

lyric fossil
#

Mualani

wet leaf
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Mualani wants xl generally over pmc

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Kinich has iansane for scroll

lyric fossil
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Mavuika would be holding it too

undone heron
#

kinich doesnt even need pmc

wet leaf
#

Yes and it doesn't have to be pmc

lyric fossil
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PMC gives 15% dmg bonus to ns units

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Over other pyro

undone heron
#

nothingburger

wet leaf
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In fact scroll pmc only buffs kinich in one rot then stops in subsequent rots

undone heron
#

15% is peanuts

lyric fossil
wet leaf
undone heron
wet leaf
lyric fossil
wet leaf
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So why use pmc over xl if you have xilo available

lyric fossil
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The best c0 low cost mua team is mua xilo suc pmc unless theres more tech i am unaware of

lyric fossil
deep niche
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ok

lyric fossil
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No emilie

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You can get scroll every other rot

wet leaf
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I get pmc sheets very similarly to xl in mua teams but xl is more consistent in practice

deep niche
#

iansan on scroll yea?? or novlesse

lyric fossil
#

I assumed the excess 15% dmg bonus and low field time would give PMC a lead

lyric fossil
deep niche
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ok

wet leaf
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Just use xl

safe smelt
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oh damn so seems like durin's team restrictions got lighten

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though only by a little

lyric fossil
deep niche
lyric fossil
wet leaf
long lance
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why doesn't durin shred hydro and cryo smh

wet leaf
#

I'm telling you guys, pmc isn't all that and outside ol you don't really want him

long lance
#

are they saving it for alice

lyric fossil
lyric fossil
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PMC is in the last slot

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If you dont have emilie or lauma you are starved for options

undone heron
#

thats emilies spot

deep niche
#

yooo seiko ayase is voicing nefer. damn, wanna play in jp now

undone heron
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just put xiangling in the bag brah

wet leaf
undone heron
#

i run xiangling or mav when benny is busy

safe smelt
lyric fossil
undone heron
lyric fossil
undone heron
#

bc nothing is verified

wet leaf
# safe smelt

Hmm 70 energy implies ~18s cd which is good because furina wants 20s rots

lyric fossil
#

70 energy…

wet leaf
#

15% damage buff is not worth it over xl's personal damage

lyric fossil
#

For nado to hit

wet leaf
#

Not an issue

undone heron
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its not an issue in my playtesting

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hitboxes are so fat its a nothingburger these days

lyric fossil
undone heron
#

70 energy q and a refund on E cast this is usable

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now he just needs to have good mvs for kinich

lyric fossil
#

Maybe EMC

wet leaf
undone heron
#

second pyro the er reqs are practically nothing

lyric fossil
#

Ill try

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Rn i have half decent Emblem EL setup for her

undone heron
wet leaf
wet leaf
lyric fossil
#

Kinich bennett iansan

opal bone
lyric fossil
wet leaf
lyric fossil
lyric fossil
# wet leaf Oh that is true

Would xl on dw and fav be able make up for cost of 15% dmg bonus on 5 cannon shots and ~12 loopshots ? She does get scroll buff every other rot too

undone heron
lyric fossil
limber heath
#

imagine funneling

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if your rotation includes funneling, it's already doomed

wicked solstice
#

CHAT CAN WE BE FR

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YUTA IS THE WORST MOTHERFUCKING MAIN JJK CHARACTER

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I DON'T CARE BRO HE'S SO ASS

lyric fossil
wicked solstice
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HE'S SUCH A FUCKING SHIT CHARACTER

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I HATE YUTA SO FUCKING MUCH BRO HE'S SUCH A RETCON

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HE HAS THE MOST CLICHE ABILITY IN THE WHOLE SERIES TOO

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IN A SERIES WHERE FUCKING LIMITLESS EXISTS HOW THE FUCK DID WE GET YUTA OKKOTSU

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THIS IS A TRAVESTY

limber heath
wicked solstice
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"ACTUALLY IM GOJO NOW"

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FUCK YOU GET OUT OF MY GOAT'S BODY

#

YOU'RE TRASH

undone heron
#

are there no jjk servers

wicked solstice
#

no

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well there are but

undone heron
#

sad

wicked solstice
#

i don't care about their opinion

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because they don't know ball if they're in a jjk server

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hi nommers

undone heron
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hello ye

wicked solstice
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what the fuck

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since when did you refer to me as ye

limber heath
#

if it's for Mualani I don't really care about their burst
just their skill is enough
their burst is used when available if not it doesn't really matter

undone heron
#

im a yuta believer.

wicked solstice
#

am i no longer your scarab?

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damn.

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i don't even wanna be your scarab anymore.

undone heron
#

u are always my scarab

wicked solstice
#

i can't believe you believe in that fraud.

undone heron
#

yuta kinda cute im sorry

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hes like a wet dog

wicked solstice
#

his hair is drawn like a handlebar

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and his outfit is wack

undone heron
#

hes gone through enough

wicked solstice
#

no tf he hasn't

undone heron
#

das why he has multiple arcs

lyric fossil
wicked solstice
#

all of them were ass

undone heron
#

hes the community punching bag

#

stop hitting him

wicked solstice
#

he's secretly gege's main character

limber heath
#

Guoba is enough

wicked solstice
#

gege sidelined yuji for yuta more frequently than kishimoto sidelined naruto for sasuke

lyric fossil
#

Yuji is more compelling as a character

wicked solstice
#

AND SASUKE IS THE MOTHERFUCKING MAIN CHARACTER TOO

lyric fossil
wicked solstice
#

no like yuji actually going through trauma realistically

#

AND THEN

#

MOTHERFUCKING YUTA OKKOTSU

lyric fossil
wicked solstice
#

"WITH THE POWER OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP"

limber heath
#

if you plan to use Mualani burst, do 2 bites only

wicked solstice
bright raven
#

Starbucks may be thr most overpriced drivel to exist but the scent of coffee when you ealk by goddamn

wicked solstice
#

there's no downsides

lyric fossil
wicked solstice
#

no specific activation conditions

#

it's just blatantly broken and boring

undone heron
#

i love how mualani dmg is called bites..she built different fr

wicked solstice
#

like atleast with the other top tiers their abilities are unique

#

this motherfucker just gets copy

undone heron
#

i wish yuta died tho even tho i like him

limber heath
#

you can do 3 bites + burst when pyronado is available, but you gotta refresh Sucrose EM buff before the burst

lyric fossil
#

So burst at start of mua field time rot ?

wicked solstice
#

that mf showed up in my goat's body just to hit the most fraud move ever and dip again

lyric fossil
wicked solstice
#

is yuji incapable of child

limber heath
#

Ideally do 3 bites + burst only when both Sucrose and Xiangling bursts are available, else only do 3 bites or 2 bites + burst

wicked solstice
#

like i know he lost a lot in that war but i don't think he lost both balls

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maybe one but speaking from experience you can still reproduce with 1 ball

wintry sphinx
#

ASSALAMU ALAYKUM YE

wicked solstice
#

if you ever greet me like that again

wintry sphinx
wicked solstice
#

i will greet your front porch with weapons of mass destruction

wintry sphinx
#

🤩

#

that's a win

undone heron
wicked solstice
#

bojutsu kaisen 2 electric boogaloo would still be possible without yuta living at the end of jjk

lyric fossil
undone heron
#

i like the final arc..hehe

#

unfortunately yuji is my goat and not gojo

limpid galleon
#

have u guys seen the ai videos of aether becoming a communist

undone heron
#

so gojo dying was not a 9/11 for me

lyric fossil
#

Sukuna fight was drawn out and became boring

lyric fossil
#

No

limpid galleon
lyric fossil
#

6.3 weekly boss mats

limpid galleon
#

my 2 jjk goats were higuruma and yuki

lyric fossil
limpid galleon
#

and yuki died in the most asspull way bro

#

holy plot armour

lyric fossil
undone heron
#

we dont know u just have to wait and see but most likely the recent one that will release before her official banner

wicked solstice
#

it was almost overshadowed by how peak that fight was

undone heron
#

i like it when a mangaka has balls

wicked solstice
#

nono him dying made total sense

lyric fossil
#

Gojo fans still try to put Sukuna down in that fight A_HuPensive

wicked solstice
#

i have this lowk controversial opinion for some reason

wintry sphinx
#

i still pray that my king gets revived

wicked solstice
#

be tbh

#

i think sukuna could've beat gojo without ten shadows

limpid galleon
#

man

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what music do i use for this stupid ass tiktok

undone heron
#

if it was a 1v1 i think that is a good take

lyric fossil
limpid galleon
#

guys what music do business tik tokers use

undone heron
#

depends what content

lyric fossil
#

Sukuna had the superior domain

limpid galleon
#

im talking about some new sustainability law

#

or something

lyric fossil
#

He would eventually beat gojo in domain battles

wicked solstice
#

in a domain battle

undone heron
wicked solstice
#

gojo's sure hit effect is more potent

#

where sukuna's is more likely to hit

#

the effect of his domain is objectively weaker

#

because it's not just a guaranteed win like gojo's is

#

infinite void is so fucking unbelievably broken if it lands

limpid galleon
lyric fossil
wicked solstice
#

and on the off chance it does gojo just automatically wins

#

but if he can't land it then sukuna wins

lyric fossil
#

Sukuna pushed Gojo to RCT burnout

limpid galleon
#

i could use this but its gonna be forcing it

lyric fossil
#

And would have won if not for the 0.1 delay

wicked solstice
#

right but that's the thing

#

variables exist.

lyric fossil
#

So it all comes down to luck

#

But that 0.1 only happened coz Meguna sustained damage

undone heron
#

smth illegal is happening

lyric fossil
#

In heian form sukuna can fight back

#

Gojo takes 3 minutes to break meguna’s stance in Clash

long lance
#

did nefer's teaser get delayed cause of apple music

#

smh

lyric fossil
#

3 minutes is also what Void lasts when being ravaged by Shrine

#

If gojo cant inflict enough damage to slow down sukuna through clashes for the same cast delay he wont be able to beat

mystic smelt
#

SUKOKOMON BUFFS

mystic smelt
#

girl wtf

#

sucrose fischl having a faction bonus 😭

lyric fossil
#

Can pay off

sinful wigeon
#

Another fischl buff

mystic smelt
#

also...sustainless flins teams since they use both 😭😭😭

lyric fossil
limpid galleon
#

yo

#

any tik tokkers in chat

mystic smelt
#

fischl aino sucrose flins
ascendant gleam
hexenzirkel faction
electro resonance

#

what in the fuckery

bright raven
#

Atp it's something like "hexenzirkel's blessings"

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And not "hexenzirkel faction"

#

OR it's some fuckery like model updates

mystic smelt
lyric fossil
bright raven
#

Why did my order disappear from now prepping list

#

Where's my food

lyric fossil
mystic smelt
lyric fossil
limpid galleon
#

can i like

mystic smelt
limpid galleon
#

greenscreen my face without a greenscreen

#

how do i do that

lyric fossil
mystic smelt
#

god 6.2 stuff and no jahoda kit leaks

bright raven
lyric fossil
bright raven
#

????

lyric fossil
#

Saw it happen in kfc
The workers srent very attentive

bright raven
#

i got it anyways

#

Saw the drink and i was like

#

Oh lord this is gonna be bad

#

never doubt lime mint

mystic smelt
#

let me guess... liyue will specifically buff adepti characters

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and they'll probably include the disciples of madame ping

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so think ganyu, xiao, zhongli, yanfei, yaoyao, xiangling 😭

bright raven
#

AND GANYU AND YANFEI

mystic smelt
lyric fossil
#

@long lance they removed this one piece from apple music
Huh

bright raven
mystic smelt
#

faction buff would probably be called adepti blessing or something

mystic smelt
bright raven
mystic smelt
#

how are you gonna buff adepti arts and exclude xianyun and shenhe

mystic smelt
#

mother daughter

bright raven
#

wait is benny even there

#

who was it

lyric fossil
#

Region locked buffs was the leaked stuff from before 6.0? Hm

mystic smelt
#

@limpid galleon how do you feel about the EU ban for certain perfume ingredients that will affect the global perfume industry

bright raven
#

like, durin's passive at least haf excuse of being related to durin it's not anymore???

lyric fossil
bright raven
#

Oooo

lyric fossil
#

For killing his parents

mystic smelt
bright raven
#

Why ban?

mystic smelt
bright raven
#

What them gotta do with hexenzirkel

mystic smelt
#

unfortunately i saw on tiktok that most of the citrus based perfumes use that certain compound

#

so it's basically overhaul

#

think of talc and how makeup is phasing it out globally

bright raven
#

Hexen passive only makes sense for albedo klee durin mona

mystic smelt
lyric fossil
mystic smelt
#

because there's more liyue characters related to adepti

bright raven
#

and what the fuck do you mean related to octavia

lyric fossil
lyric fossil
lyric fossil
bright raven
#

WHERE DID YOU GET THIS

bright raven
mystic smelt
#

rn the hexenzirkel blessing resonance pool are:

durin
albedo
wanderer
navia
nilou
mona
klee
kirara
fischl
sucrose
razor