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vivid wasp
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Didn't she overthrow the Fae Aristocracy or whatever

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And the Fae were created by Koitar

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So maybe there's some relation there

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But the likely answer is that she's pro Koitar yeah
Being the God of Love as well

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I mean we don't know how they really went about it yet and Nicole frames it as a tragedy that the Gods destroyed them

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We know both the Fatui and Hyperborea have a fixation on the "Pale Star" too

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So they're definitely linked

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vivid wasp
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Its not a leak is it?

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It's the CN translation

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Is it really spoilery?

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Like wdym by not really

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# vivid wasp That scares me

"Walking a pilgrimage for a wish, gathering to fight for the title of strongest...
"Finally, burning to ashes in the flames of destruction for a dream.
"If the original heart remains in the ashes, then he has achieved the truth of ██."

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This is it

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The last line is the stand out

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Oh God

thick oyster
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Instead of saying the "intention" remains it's "the original hearts remains in the ashes"

vivid wasp
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Uh

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Well okay

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Idk what to make of it

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Original heart huh

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It would be referring to Capitano's heart thing right...?

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Now I'm so much more confused

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How the fuck do the translators take away the word "intention" from "original hearts remains in the ashes"

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Unless heart is not a literal heart but with the mention of "remains in the ashes" it seems weird...

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But also, burning to ashes, and remains in the ashes tie even more to the Mare Jivari

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And also it's looking even less like the blank word is a name...
I really don't like that

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Wait
Original heart could also be the Gnosis??
Because uh
Scaramouche
Idk

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vivid wasp
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vivid wasp
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Ugh

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But it makes the most sense

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Fuck me

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?? No??

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I hadn't thought about that theory in ages what the fuck are you talking about

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vivid wasp
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I just want it to tie into Natlan

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vivid wasp
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And Natlan's lore

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They're linked to everything

vivid wasp
# thick oyster I mean what else would it be now

We already know ||the name of the third descender anyways why would that be the big twist????? Like yeah whatever, its actually his "erased" name just like Koitar had her name erased but like ughhh||

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vivid wasp
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But its literally Natlan's Gemstone Description
Every other Genstone description has always tied back to its specific nation

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God this is so stupid

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vivid wasp
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I can't win ever in this fucking game 😭 😭

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I just want Natlan to be important how difficult is that to ask from the fucking devs

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vivid wasp
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I'm pissed
If this turns out to be the case I will actually end it all

vivid wasp
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The Pyro Gemstone is literally the only thing I have to look forward to in the game
Its the main reason I haven't fully "quit" and am still sticking around to check for updates
If it turns out to be this I'm just going to be so dissappointed
I'm not asking for all my theories to be real, I'm just asking for Natlan to have the spotlight for fucking once 😔

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What the hell does the 3rd descender even have to do with Capitano that's literally Childe's thing

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vivid wasp
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Natlan will probably get the spotlight again
I have little doubt about that

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vivid wasp
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Yes, because there's so much evidence Saarelainen and Ajax are the same person

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vivid wasp
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This is sounding like the "Rhinedottir isn't Gold because this and that" argument all over again

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vivid wasp
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I don't see how SPs have anything to do with this

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Its not like Saarelainen is going to be revived

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Just that Childe is Ajax's reincarnation or whatever

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# vivid wasp I don't see how SPs have anything to do with this

SPs are how they make a character relevant again while also selling them again
If Childe secretly was the most important person in existence and the rebirth of Ajax (all because his parents named him after a popular fairy tale btw) then they would give him an expy to sell him again

vivid wasp
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You're overthinking it

thick oyster
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It's just how it works

vivid wasp
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Well whatever I guess
This is just making me upset
I guess I'll have to pray like a dumbass that it doesn't turn out to be the case and that the Pyro Gemstone is something else
Sigh

thick oyster
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Like at this point

vivid wasp
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I don't know
They could always introduce someone at the very end
I don't wanna talk about it anymore

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Alright then

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queen prawn
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He'll get screen time in Snezhnaya but he won't be the star

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His story got a name

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And oh well its a story, not a 1:1 retelling

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wild marsh
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And then subsequently airing out your misery making everyone else miserable

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You guys are losing your shit

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It is just a model that existed in 1.0😭

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But imagine it is actually Nibelung design teaser

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Lizard = dragon

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He took the pyro gnosis, and in natlan becomes the second weekly boss as an ascended dragon

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I would take Dottore as Pantalone's stand over everything else

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Pantalone not being a good fighter is a good enough set up

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Like a stand user

worldly rain
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Every gem has personalized dialogue for their respective archon
Pyro gem could just be of xbal

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Which would be a bit different because every other gem has current archons signature
But not pyro gem...

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I guess that's where the mystery lies or maybe they retconned natlan anyway and xbal was supposed to be the current archon C_TaoHehe

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YOOOOO

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It's called confirmation bias C_TaoHehe

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nah nah

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which harbinger can turn into an animal ?

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besides MAYBE Pulci

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which harbinger has turned people into animals ?

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but he does not scold his underlings

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capitano is nibelung reborn not saarelainen

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He's one of them

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I lean on one or the other depending on my mood

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the lizards are nibelung's fragments surely

thick oyster
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Man I'm impatient AF for 6.7

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Those Capitano crumbs will be good

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i can wait patiently

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i need Time to fix my resin deficiency

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i pulled ... 6 five stars in the last one month

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i save a lot

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she paid for out slaying most of the female cast

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Dottore too

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too much c*nt can get you killed

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the latter needs some design to be cohesive and a personality to go with it

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re: Bayonetta

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Yeah

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an example of cheap goon bait would be whatever they did to sunbringer

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Escoffier is goon bait with no sauce
Just raw sugar

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the stygian bruteforce noise drowned out some of the justified complaints

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Cursed be his name

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Well Sandrone is going to be blow them both out of the park when she gets her proper BIS teammates so I suppose it doesn't matter C_TaoHehe

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gacha meta laws

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People just realized how sus the original version was

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"Walking a pilgrimage for a wish, gathering to fight for the title of strongest...
"Finally, burning to ashes in the flames of destruction for a dream.
"If the original heart remains in the ashes, then he has achieved the truth of ██."

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explain

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# odd thicket explain

The original Chinese version of the description of the pyro gem
The one in English is the localized version by the translators

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Yes

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In gnosticism it means Truth

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Truth of The world

thick oyster
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But still the use of "heart" in the original is much more suspect

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Especially now after what the "ashes" it remains in could be

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Irminsul

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Also we now know that the Third Descender was "erased"

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Now who was burnt in the flames of destruction ?

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I mean the "he" isn't going to be Dottore

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Jokes aside

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Yeah

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Captain is one candidate

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And if this is him, the dream line makes more sense

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Dainsleif too mentions a dream

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For khaenrians

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Original heart of capitano in the ashes…

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Hmm
So capitano and dottore are both returning

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Capitano first
Then Dottore sometime later

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# odd thicket What was it

"Though we could not restore Khaenri'ah to life, we of the Alberich Clan should lead lives as those who blaze like fire, rather than those who wallow in the embers."

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There seems to be a split in this clan

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The AO was founded by the same clan too

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Kaeya is suspicious

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# odd thicket Kaeya is suspicious

Anfortas is still weird too
Because his name inspiration has him guarding the holy Grail despite being crippled and no longer able to walk

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But we don't know what happened to Anfortas

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And the holy grail was literally just mentioned in Athame Artis

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Holy grail ?

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Captain was in Natlan at the time Anfortas was commanding the golems across sumeru

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Which reminds me

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Sumeru is right next to Natlan
He could have went from Sumeru to Natlan

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Anfortas, Capitano and Dainsleif should have coordinated the evac efforts at wake of the Cataclysm

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Dainsleif had his hunk underling take the civilians into the chasm, to Lang Gan, while resurfacing at the desert across the forest nation, beside the Pari

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Anfortas was coordinating Golems across sumeru

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Capitano must have been called into Natlan while fighting in the deserts of Sumeru

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And Lang Gan was affected by Vedrfolnir’s shenanigans somehow

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Inversion is Vedrfolnir’s theme

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Meanwhile Dainsleif was “cursed” and turning into a monster according to the Pari

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Iirc

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Just his eye was damaged

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Oh
Who crippled Him then
Was he even crippled

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Hadura also had the title of "sentinel of the Golden Hall"

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We know fucking nothing

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We could have held dainsleif down after NK and have him write down everything he knew about KH

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MF has Vedrfolnir’s ring protecting his memory too

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The ring is preserving most of it

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Dainsleif is a skilful liar

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During bedtime story

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Then we learn in 5.7 how his memory is more intact than any other khaenrian at present thanks to the ring

wild marsh
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yeah. I think his memory is still probably significantly impacted, but he remembers more than he let on in that quest.

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which I think would further the abyss order plot line (in a good way), so I think it's true.

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the fact that we got nothing from it during whole welkin moon patches.

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The only other purpose they have left is for revealing his side of the story with the Sibling

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Oh and btw

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I am rewatching inversion of Genesis

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An interesting tidbit

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Sibling was recorded in Irminsul only after arriving at KH

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Due to the heavens responding to KH wishes

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But after NK we know they have been at Teyvat for thousands of years prior to arriving at KH

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could be a skirk like situation

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Hes definitely not repressing them

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Hes tortured by his own failures

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Still the ring would handle it

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To the time he began wearing his ring

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Time is nearly frozen for him

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What a wretched existence

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"becoming a monster" or something

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We don't know how

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Is the assumption

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And he still wears that mask

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He appeared to the Pari’s while half dead, turning but wearing the ring

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He confronted Vedrfolnir again during the Cataclysm

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He seems least angry with Vedrfolnir

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And Rerir

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And only pursued selfish goals

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No not that

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He is wearing Vedrfolnir’s final gift to him

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And definitely met him after the power split

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He has to
Ends justify the means to him

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Well i mean that he is aware of Vedrfolnir leading the Abyss Order

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But seems chill in not pursuing more

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But not kill the Sibling

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Only two people are / should br aware of his ring

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Vedrfolnir and the Sibling

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Haden would hear of it from them and plan the bait for Dain

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what's the basis for sibling? just that he would've told them? or they would infer that he has something because he's not rotting?

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For one i do not see the Sibling having the expertise to lead the loom project on their own

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So 5.7’s bait for Dain must have been planned by Ved

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# thick oyster Rude

you are forgetting we are twins. so it makes sense if u imagine sibling is as smart as MC

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Thats incorrect to make

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Anyways the loom as an idea is tied to Time and Memories

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Dainsleif should ideally suffer no effects of Erosion

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where was that said. i thought it just prevented the rot

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Haden says it

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It doesnt prevent the rot
It resets it

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i see

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I'll trust u

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idr

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I need to like, reread/rewatch some of these AQs

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Lemme find the text

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But i need to finish going through this one fanfic and Inversion of Genesis before

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Apparently there are NO records of Escher within Irminsul ?

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nvm i cannot find any such info regarding Escher

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that it was an identity fabricated by dottore

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in which case there would indeed be a segment still alive in ToS

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isn't escher like not in there anymore though

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maukie left

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already

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but that turned out to be false
i cannot discovery any such info about Escher like that

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huh?

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yeah

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we know when maukie left?

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acc to istoria's reaction people inside didn't have the same perception of time

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he was kicked out of TOS for "distoring and abusing the power of Space"

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they found out how much time has passed after people come in

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yeah

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like the three zones were reversed

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and we meet the real Maukie the day Traveler reaches Dornman

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doesn't mean it happened after moontorre

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wait

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then where did he disappear off t

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remember how skirk sq is set after fontiane aq?

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WAIT

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maukie's memory is wiped

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if he's a segment only is he a weirdo whos the only one with wrong hair, he's got the "blank slate nice person" option...

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which is worse than sandrone's skirt

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it is in this case

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but like

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not a general statement

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-_-

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what'd i say

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i.e Seamus and Lohen return

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skirk sq

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im sure there's other events but i forgot

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at least Space and Time had happened before the temple of space quest

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mhm

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i think all of 6.x is chronological since everything is connected

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if escher is indeed a dottore segment then he would have survived the killswitch
death is prohibited in the temple afterall

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its unlike natlan

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but like it's

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nice person dottore is worse

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the resort order of quests happened before space and time for you (which is the final Natlan quest)

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that'd be the bastardization of the character they were accusing wanderer to be

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it'd be interesting for their stories to mirror after their "death" at the hands of the same small archon

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but no

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dottore's main gripe was being frozen in time and unable to gain new perspectives

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if he returns, it would be a zandik

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Reason why Pantalone taking the pyro gnosis is a good idea : He can light more cigarettes at once with it

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dahlia birthday letter is sus

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Does anyone remember what the device Tighnari has hanging from his right shoulder blade is based off of?
I feel like it's some ancient Greek thing and I think I used to know, but I've just forgotten

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Guys, anyone remember what is the source for our knowledge about the date: 6000 years ago?

I remember something about the Chasm, that become the base for a lot of other stuff because it marks the end of the funerary war where every celestial nails seems to fall st the same time.

But I forgot the main source for the number. By the way, we had more sources with the numbers besides that old one?

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I found in liyue archon quest.
Anyone know any recent mention?

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I found it. Nefer said in the "A Nocturne of the Far North" that the ghosts came from hyperborea, (lauma told her about it) and that means 6000 years ago.

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Traveler new job/talent : wingman

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Seelie ahh

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Guizhong where

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Which one