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brave marten
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sadly 🥀

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shame that whole him with Capitano thing didn't develop much

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I hated Mavuika in the story but when I saw her kit I hated her even more and she was mt first archon skip

thick oyster
vivid wasp
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When I'm glad people warmed up to her. Because all I rememeber were people saying how she was a f##ish character and that I made a comment on reddit about how she was my favorite Natlan design and was downvoted to hell
She's still is my favorite Natlan desihn, and is my favorite character in general...

thick oyster
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The good ol days

vivid wasp
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Meanwhile there was me with my Murata theory

thick oyster
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Ineffa is better E_OMEGARAZOR

vivid wasp
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No for fucking real
People were saying the part in her teaser where they showed her stomach while she was eating was a f##ish and I'm like what?????????????????????????????????

thick oyster
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She is the one piece I'm missing from having the perfect Flins team

vivid wasp
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I gave up on it after 5.3 so it's in the trash bin

thick oyster
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I have Mavuika
I haven't built her and I refuse to until Capitano comes back C_TaoHehe
Sometimes I throw her off a cliff

vivid wasp
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She's rerunning alongside Lohen right

thick oyster
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I was too stupid to figure out how to work it though still
Why does the Herra have to start in its charge mode when there's no fucking energy 😭

vivid wasp
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If that's the case there's a chance I'll get her since I'll pull for Prune
I'm gonna make a torture chamber in my teapot for her if that happens

thick oyster
vivid wasp
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Oh

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Didn't know that

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That's good then, I won't have to wait for her

thick oyster
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Honestly I think Lauma's design is better-

vivid wasp
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I don't like Lauma's design
I don't know why
I like her Centaur form though

thick oyster
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Closest thing to a fully inhuman character we can play

vivid wasp
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Sadly

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I want a harpy playable character

thick oyster
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I mean she has an excuse to wear skimpy clothes C_TaoHehe
Going off the mythology of her name

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Or Durin's.....

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Man people were mad at that lol

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Her heart eyes freak me out at times

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Natlan fucking monolopized travel mechanics

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*Silly little guys

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Linnea's biological dad design reveal:

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Bro they look like jellyfish

vivid wasp
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So like
Why is it that in lore the faes swap their children or whatever

thick oyster
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Also the kid they replaced had an illness

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So they helped cure that

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It's both a power and a curse

vivid wasp
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Oh I see

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Is it different for all faes..?

thick oyster
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Only like 8 of them left in existence

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Flins is probably the last of his kind too

vivid wasp
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I see

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Kk

thick oyster
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Nah

vivid wasp
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I'm gonna go to sleep now, it's almost 1 am

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Night

thick oyster
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And old men fae

thick oyster
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Yeah but a lot of fae have fire connections for all we know

Wrong message replied to

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Yeah most likely

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The Fatui are the pale flame

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Though you told me that's a mistranslation?

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When is Flins called an azure flame

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Hm

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I doubt Flins will be important in Snezhnaya

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Though

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They have something to do with the after life

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Which could be useful for manipulating Ley Lines

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We don't know much about his noble house

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And have ghosts following them

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He had to have parents bruv

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He's only 6-700 years old

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Which is young for Genshin immortals C_TaoHehe

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He says it himself

brave marten
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who's 600-700 years old

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oh

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didn't know Flins knows ball like that

thick oyster
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Possibly something to do with Koitar and Seutervoinen

brave marten
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bro lied about about being 6-7 hundred years old

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he knows ball

thick oyster
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A parallel to it

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No

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Polar Star is about the Fatui

worldly rain
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@odd thicket so based on re reading stuff I think there is no breaking of cycle at all
It's just the 4 samsara cycle were transitional period

Cataclysm basically started the 4th phase (not breaking any cycle) as the Ordo believed they were living in the first half of 4th cycle they called "Khraun-Arya"

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Yeah I also got headcanon mixed up mb

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Yeah but i think 4th cycle began with cataclysm which is why Ordo says they are living in it

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Actually now that I think about it I already had this theory before
First cycle started with end of dragons age with PO's war
2nd started with Nibelung starting war
3rd started with archon war
And 4th started with cataclysm

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Don't know why I thought 4th cycle broke E_OMEGARAZOR

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Yeah

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I don't think it did apart from ruins of course

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If it had abyss twin wouldn't be looking for reviving khanerriah no?

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Yeah that's different then
I thought the kingdom itself which we see in Rerir past survived..

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Civilization still lives you could say

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Actually every cycle had descender interfere directly even except for 3rd where they were catalyst themselves

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Aka gnosis

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Also I found an interesting comment saying we now know more about celestial era war than archon war
Which I admit is very C_HuSusge

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PO surviving like cockroach evey time and using other descender will for their own benefit C_TaoHehe

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So basically what you're saying is Istaroth saved traveler from becoming another gadget by PO C_TaoHehe

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In Orphic cosmogony,

Ananke is the primordial goddess of necessity, compulsion, and inevitable fate.

Chronos (Khronos) is the primordial, unaging god of time, emerging self-formed at the dawn of creation as a serpentine being with heads of a man, bull, and lion.

Phanes is the primordial deity of procreation, light, and creation, born from the cosmic world-egg.

In Orphic tradition, Chronos (Time) created a silver egg, which was then warmed and nurtured by a serpent (Ananke).

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Time created egg nurtured by fate led to birth of phanes C_HuPepeSmile

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Probably lots of different myths are there can't be sure which specifically hoyo took inspiration from

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But general theme is there

Phanes was birthed from egg that was created by time because of necessity (fate)

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It might just be one giant self closing loop ngl

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Abyss destroying the cosmos
So cosmos out of necessity created a world aka teyvat that could survive through time
But all that would lead to Nibleung who was born alongside this new world

Probably not correct theory nvm

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unless the modern fate system was modelled after that and just like nibelung was born alongside teyvat
Phanes was birthed alongside the new fate...E_think

queen prawn
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Hmm that could explain the dream

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But I doubt it simply because I dont think angel have "god remains"

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Is her body not in the Eternal Oasis ?

worldly rain
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Nicole's trailer tells us that angels had to give up either power or wisdom as punishment

Most of the selees we see are those who chose former and gave up the latter

Nicole didn't give up either but instead lost her voice which is what she says is loophole

Now I ask what did Nabu, Sybilla and Yohul chose? What was their loophole?

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Zibai we can say was saved by Istaroth but what about others....

queen prawn
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Yohul is her form? Because she is messy

worldly rain
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Yohul maybe Ronova got involved..

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And I'm asking how?
Zibai we know Istaroth helped she was after all an agent sent by celestia anyway

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What of others?

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Yohul I can see made a deal with Ronova

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Azur light only tells of prophetic future not that first angel actually did something
So not convinced there

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And with zibai we already saw first angel had nothing to do with her

queen prawn
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Yohul with leyline maintenance, sybilla protect the irminsul which nicole later take the responsibility ?

worldly rain
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Zibai and to some extend Yohul I can see shades being involved but Nabu and Sybilla are mystery to how they retained both wisdom and their power...

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She didn't we have the cutscene of what happened Istaroth was involved not first angel

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Yes to rebel nothing says she saved them from upcoming punishment
She couldn't even protect herself you want me to believe she protected others?

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And again nothing shows she did
Zibai already proves she didn't do anything in her saving it was Istaroth
Same with Yohul I'll believe since she made a deal with her to establish night kingdom

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Maybe sybilla did something similar with Naberius...

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Which still leaves Nabu as a mystery

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What does this prove? Nothing
We can even see Nicole standing after war in latest trailer
They were given a choice to either chose wisdom or power that was the punishment

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Most chose their power but lost wisdom and that's how they became selee

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I'm asking the ones who did survive with both how did they do that... Nothing to do with first angel because by that time she was already in prison

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Doesn't matter the choice was still there they somehow found a loophole like Nicole did or some other event happened like in case of zibai
I'm just thinking what could that be for Nabu, Sybilla and Yohul...

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Yes they didn't
Yohul I can see gave up her visage in exchange for retaining both wisdom and power

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Zibai well the loophole was basically splitting her souls into 3 and sealing them inside her 3 impurities

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Sybilla and Nabu still don't know what they gave up or how they survived...

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Maybe next update we see Nabu past hopefully

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She was an angel that much we know
Like I don't think there's any other mention

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Also angel is not really a post it's their existence itself
Like saying human is a post doesn't make sense...

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They were born an angel

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Yeah and human mavuika became god doesn't mean human is a post C_TaoHehe

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You can't change it any time

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It's not the same as saying moon envoy for example which is a post now

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Human God angel it's all name for species itself
King archon moon envoy these are post

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Nicole is an exception of her race

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Just like Mav/other pyro archons is for humans

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Yeah

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Also neuv made all oceanid in his realm humans
But again it takes exceptional powers to do so he's sovereign after all
Naberius even got punished for doing the same E_pepelol

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Well we are getting voyager and first angel either way with snezhnaya
Even 3rd descender I'd say

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Who?

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Ah right it was egeria not Naberius

ebon iris
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whats the implication here?

ebon iris
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I see

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Tho tbf, dottore's is more a lack of empathy, understanding and willingness to change on his part

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Durin (simulanka) scares people away, but he was able to calm down and accept the help of us plus friends (Wanderer, navia, etc) to show others that he doesnt purposefully intend tk hurt others

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Dottore is shown multiple times that others can change but he himself cannot (or rather will not, due to reasons like how he sees the world logically or bc of his own ego) and it will be his downfall if he doesnt accept that truth first

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Dottore wanted a descenders aid too

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He just didnt realize that we're not morally apathetic to our friends and people of teyvat as he is

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The dude literally offered us the ability to kill and genocide everyone we didnt like cmon bro

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empathetic????

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fuck no

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If he were empathetic he wouldnt have ruined scaramouche's life back in inazuma, for starters

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Even if pierro gave him orders too

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I will say he does have some sort of emotions tho if he desired a family

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Like how he saw columbina as a sister

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But hes never fully understood

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That was an offer

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He was offering us power beyond measure to become a god

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As long as we went with him

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OF course we said no and he kept trying and asking and asking again

worldly rain
# ebon iris Even if pierro gave him orders too

Fatui are given task in each region but what they do how they do and what agenda they have of their own is their own making
Pierro didn't order him to do what he did...he just did it himself E_pepelol

ebon iris
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it was cruel

worldly rain
worldly rain
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It's the same way how he was luring traveler

ebon iris
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Yea and we dont want that of course

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Not at the expense of KILLING PEOPLE

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We even reflected and mentioned Rerir

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It stopped being a test the second we stabbed him in the back with our sword

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He lunges at us with a roar

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And then imprisons us in his little cube before scara saved us

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At that point negotiations or whatever were off the table we clearly were not going to go with him

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Even if he made reasonable points, the way hes going about it is not our way

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we beat his ass

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it stopped being a test long before that

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And we took none of that

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For good reason

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its always experiments with this mfer

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The fact of the matter is that his ego will be his own downfall and if he doesnt bother to change, then theres no salvation for him

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His fate is his own and no higher greater entity is in charge of his fate as people may think it may be

worldly rain
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Bro don't blame your character on fate that's not how this works C_TaoHehe

ebon iris
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Despite whatever trauma or obstacles he faced in the past he still took those actions he did today

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The whole point of Nod krai antagonists facing off against us was to show them the truth and make them confront themselves

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well I said my piece already if were not gonna get anywhere with discussion then I might as well just leave it at that

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rerir reflected and was willing (and did!) change

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dottore did not

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Not for the sake of others

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yea bc any family and home he could've made

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he DESTROYED

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He destroyed the lives of the inazumans with scara when he was falsely living among them

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He could have made friends with the other Harbingers besides like maybe pantalone but he doesnt

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Idk if sumeru had any salvation for him but there could've been something

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you keep blaming fate as if its this big puppetmaster entity controlling everything and purposefully making his life worse

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that is not it bro 😭

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his actions made him who he is now

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Its fine to blame him yknow

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Same way rerirs actions made him the sinner he is now

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Ain't defending that but I see why he did what he did

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Same with dottore

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Its all about what they do next

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RERIR DID NOT BREAK FREE FROM FATE LMAO

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He is stuck in the moons reflection unable to escape or do literally anything and hes not reunited with Tholindis

worldly rain
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Dottore is the guy who could foresee back in 2000 that covid pandemic would wipe out a lot of people in 20 years and then say if that's fate might as well commit crimes before that happens C_TaoHehe

ebon iris
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Ved's words in his drip market say it clearly - his obsession shakes the laws of the world, not break it

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Hes yet to even transcend to the power that someone like surtalogi has

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ved breaking the false sky???????

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when did he do that

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Now we get into theorizing because id argue Ved has not broken from his fate

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Even if he sees through all of time and is stuck at the end or wherever

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His manipulation is widespreading, but limited to whispers and taking advantage of people at their lowest

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He lamented himself to rerir that even tho he sees the future he cannot change it and thats what makes him despair at times

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Who knows what he sees

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But we see in Linneas story how that end can be circumvented

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Just like with Fontaine and the prophecy

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Just like with celaeno and Linneas match

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Okay so whats the point ur making here

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Because of our influence we helped people's lives be better

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Its not about the destination its the journey to it that changes them

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Is that not more important than the pre-determined ending?

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We've been shown many kinds of stories throughout genshin

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Joyful ones, tragic ones

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Its not about the end but its how it was achieved that made it matter

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And we carry those experiences on our journey as a traveler

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Someone so obsessed with fate and not potentially having hope

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May as well not just do anything at all

ebon iris
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But what do i know about dottore

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Dudes ego makes it hard to get him to understand others anyway

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Anyways 6.6 is gonna culminate in how we not only deal with him but how he deals with himself anyway

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Looking forward to what kind of ending he gets, if any at all

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Hehe

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Mhmmmmmm

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Sureeeeeee

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That or total ego death im okay as long as he can eat shit for a bit and realize he fucked up

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Otherwise

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No point in caring about him

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Im done with him anyway

vivid wasp
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Morning chat

vivid wasp
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I'd imagine so?
I mean Chlothar was able to die so

vivid wasp
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Not sure
I'm not caught up with sinner stuff

worldly rain
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We don't even know any details oh how he did that even
It was too vague

thick oyster
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I assumed Chlothar figured out how to do it himself

thick oyster
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It's the immortality curse preventing them from going in
If the curse is gone, no more getting blocked

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Probably reincarnated by now

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Capitano is the current ruler of the Night Kingdom
Well, co-ruler

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He reincarnated as Kaeya

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Yeah
NK works differently though

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Ley Lines = reincarnation
NK = actual afterlife

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Primordial Sea is also reincarnation

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It figuratively does through the Ancient Names

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Yeah

sacred hornet
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I did the whole nodkrai archon quest line without visiting half the map (the northern part) because it wasn't necessary, so now the Favonius Keep ppl have different dialogue...aside from different dialogue what else did I miss out on? Was Cardinal Seamus there?

red obsidian
thick oyster
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Would be cool if we got to see it when we go to Hyperborea

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We don't know that do we?

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We literally see a painting of Voyager and Koitar in the teaser though

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What's the quote

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Maybe she was in the Nod-Krai part of Hyperborea not the main part of Hyperborea

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Also she mentions a new ancient civilization we haven't heard about before

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In some of the new marketing

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Here
She mentions a "Patra"
I can't tell if that's his name or if it got cut off

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Yeah someone else said that

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Could be in the south of Sumeru's deserts

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That was always Rukkhadevata's

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My guess is it was Thoth's civilization

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Since Zibai had Lang-Gan he should have had something too

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Since he was also an envoy

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It would be a desert now though

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What even is he?

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Yeah but non Angels gods are kind of mysterious still
They just popped up after a while and nobody knows where

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He could have a demon name we don't know yet

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Egeria too

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They don't necessarily have to add up

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I doubt it but it's possible

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Decarabien may have been a moon worshiper though
So I guess it is fairly likely

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I don't remember that

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His tower kind of looks like an astrology tower

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We still don't know what it is in his basement btw

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Or Dvalin's boss arena
That place is still weird

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Dvalin casts a domain expansion and we never see it again

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Early installment syndrome C_TaoHehe

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Also the Abyss moon inside it is weird

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Zhiqiong may have gotten trapped in it

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Could it be part of the Moon Palace somehow?
Idk

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Some broken off part of it

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It has a moon in it though

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I think it stretches beyond Teyvat itself
Not Irminsul

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I think it's where Saarelainen was "reborn" as a descender too

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It stretches upwards though

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I forget what the line is but the implication is that it's outside Teyvat

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Yes but inversion bullshit

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Rumor has it that people who've ascended to Celestia have also witnessed the same helix-shaped divine ladder that can be seen within Visions. Venturing out into the universe and down into the abyss are the same in that both are braving the dark unknown

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So "ascending" is the same as "descending" for the Abyss

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We see the heart of Irminsul in the AQs though

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And that's a realm beyond Teyvat

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No Belyi

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It was Belyi

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The Tsar is the only one called "snow king"

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Who?

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It only says a traveler and a spirit of frost helped him

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He had a Moon Wheel he gave to Flins

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Cause he was black mailed

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No

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He isn't called a king

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I believe so

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No

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Jack Frost aren't hunanoid

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No

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Just realized Kukulkan probably did this

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Doubt it

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Don't think so

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Yeah I checked Hymns again and she isn't

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We see what they look like in Linnea's flashback
They're blue blobs

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No but Lumi wears a cardboard box with a normal jack frost drawn on

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Here

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No they don't

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Does this mean Chongyun is a fae cause he's blue

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This is what Snegurochka fae look like

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How do you mix that up 😭

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White people am I right?

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Freakscender

worldly rain
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Tsaritsa statue shares cultural inspiration from Snegurochka irl

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She even got the wand

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Idk

thick oyster
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A bunch of monarchs use those
But yeah

worldly rain
vivid wasp
vivid wasp
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God fucking damn it I can never win can I

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Well, maybe all that means is that my theory on Tsurumi Island's civilization being important might be true

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I just think it's odd that it's the only nailed civilization that we know quite frankly nothing about

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You mean the Boatman?

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Where is it said that Kapactir is related to Ronova
I know that she mentions that there was a "she" that gave her a name originally, but there's no confirmation that it's Ronova, we still don't know who it is

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Eh
Well it's not 100% confirmed still though I get what you mean

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I personally don't think the "she" is Ronova
I would prefer if it was someone from that civilization...

vivid wasp
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Wdym by Khia?

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Wtf

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Well ok

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I had a prediction is that maybe the she in question is who the omnipresent god statue is meant to represent

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Speaking of which

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I found out a few days ago that if you have Columbina and you have welkin, it changes like, the icon thing?
Like, when you log in and you get the welkin moon blessing, you get Columbina instead of that random lady
Which makes me wonder who the fuck she was
Because she is very similar to the Omnipresent God statue

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I'm probably overthinking it but that's what I like to do

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I mean, the lady in question also didn't look like any of the moon sisters as well

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4th moon sister? Imagine

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Well, we do know that there was an attempt at making a 4th moon

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But it failed

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And I also have another like, weir observation about Canon that I wanted to mention while we are at it

worldly rain
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When the war arc begins...
You'll see C_HuCryge

vivid wasp
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No

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This is how Canon's moon is represented in murals

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Oh why

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Oh

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Uhm

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Well what I wanted to say is that

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It looks like the sun is behind the frost moon?

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Yeah that

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Canon's moon or whatever

worldly rain
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Canon is frost moon not eternal

vivid wasp
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Ehhh
Is that like too important
My point is, why is the frost moon/eternal canon's moon or whatever in front of the sun

worldly rain
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Largest is Aria's eternal moon

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In ascending order yes

vivid wasp
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I don't fucking know
All I know is that the two murals I showed represents Canon's moon, and Canon's moon is the one in front of the sun

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And I'm just wondering if that can somehow be important
That and because of what I was talking about earlier regarding the welkin moon lady

worldly rain
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Sun could be representation of PO and we know frost moon was not destroyed by him
Could it be the representation of this fact then?

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In the presence of sun(PO) we see frost moon

vivid wasp
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Maybe, that's an interesting thought

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But as always when it comes to the sun my mind immediately goes to Natlan
Mysterious welkin moon lady looks very similar to the statue of the Omnipresent God
Statue of the Omnipresent God has the Homa/Ronova wings
We see those wings a lot in Natlan, especifically in the Masters of the Night-Wind tribe, which is the Cryo tribe
There could be a connection there but I am mostly spit balling

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You are misreading which one is which

worldly rain
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The waves below are clouds
You see the stars in the sky
And then the moon
Maybe it's just that...
Also the spikes with the circle behind are also present behind canon so I wonder if that even is the sun..

vivid wasp
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Uh no

vivid wasp
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I'm saying that Canon's moon is like, connected to the sun

worldly rain
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Tbh this could be it
You can see there's no open cut on the moon here
While with canon you can see the open cut on top

vivid wasp
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But there are two other moons represented in the Tsurumi Island murals
So that one has to be Canon only

worldly rain
# vivid wasp

Second one look like iridescent you see something falling out likely abyss

vivid wasp
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Yes

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Ok you know what, the natlan mural is the best way to explain it

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Middle one with the sun behind it is canon

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That's what I'm trying to say

worldly rain
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Wouldn't these 3 be the moon?

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There's also Nibelung behind

vivid wasp
# vivid wasp

The one on the left doesn't look like Sonnet's or Aria's moon when you compare it to the Natlan murals, like it doesn't have the "melting" part (which is likely more related to Sonnet but in the Natlan mural Aria's moon is also melting) and it also doesn't have like, those curved lines inside it
But like maybe the devs just forgot idk, I just wanted to make that observation

vivid wasp
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What did you think I was referring to???

worldly rain
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The large one in the middle...

vivid wasp
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What about it
I'm saying that's Canon's moon

worldly rain
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But there's already 3 above

vivid wasp
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What?

worldly rain
brave marten
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y'all are agreeing but misunderstanding each other

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Jen is talking about the one in the top

worldly rain
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That's what I thought you were talking about

brave marten
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being canon's

vivid wasp
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No
I'm talking about the blue one being canon's

worldly rain
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Yeah that's canon

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Blue being distinct while other two are white
Probably another representation that she's the one that still survives in the sky

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But then...All 3 looks to have something behind
So there's a bigger golden circle and inside you see blue/white circle
If golden Circle behind canon represent sun wouldn't that go for other two as well?

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Actually there's black circle as well in between for all 3

vivid wasp
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I don't think like the white/blue circle really means anything
We only really see it in that mural

worldly rain
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1 , 2 , 3 being the moon
4 being the morning star

vivid wasp
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I think 4 is supposed to be the tonatiuh

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Because the Tonatiuh was like an anchor for the moons?
And well we can see in the mural the moons being anchored to it

worldly rain
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That's...reasonable yeah

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But wasn't it built by pyro sovereign...am I remembering wrong?

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Nvm got it wrong I was thinking of something else

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Yeah looks like it but this was build by och kan

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Wait he modified it

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Yeah this is it then well got too far ahead again C_TaoHehe

vivid wasp
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Yeah that
I'm not caught up with Dragon lore but you get what I meant

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I just never paid attention to that part of Natlan's lore to begin with
I was only interested in (and still am) learning about the Munatlans

vivid wasp
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I know

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And I wanna know more about that too but there's too little info

lilac coral
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I saw someone say somewhere that the whole story of the dragons is basically a mirror to how natives have been pushed out and nearly eradicated by colonists and I thought that was a cool angle with their story

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Like it never even crossed my mind

vivid wasp
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I mean

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Could be a metaphor for forceful assimilation
They felt thats what they had to do to survive
Idk
I don't like the moon sisters

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Yeah, Tenoch is very interesting to me

worldly rain
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It works they weren't some evil who did it for evil sake
They were weak and it showed in their judgement
The sympathy comes from realizing that their moment of weakness is relatable

vivid wasp
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I was referring to the Moon Sisters but yeah it works for the Mu-Natlans too

worldly rain
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Not like they could do anything that was their weakness yeah
For moon sisters the new visitor wasn't really the problem but abyss
Their lack of judgment costed them but at the moment they really thought the new visitor would cooperate

vivid wasp
#

Rerir???

worldly rain
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Well that happens
The new guy didn't turn out to be the good guy so obviously the blame would shift to them only
But then again not like dragons were any less arrogant C_TaoHehe

vivid wasp
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Yeah I know who the guy is obviously I mean how does his story tie into colonialism or whatever

worldly rain
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Seeing how they treated humans I don't think so C_TaoHehe

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Same shit anyway
If it wasn't for kukulkan who hated his own race more than humans they would still been hunted down C_TaoHehe

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Yeah that's like saying humanity time is over once aliens arrive and you start siding with them
Not cool C_TaoHehe

lilac coral
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Yeah
Literally just going out of their way to eradicate a civilization because they were deemed dangerous and were forcefully erased from the world to better your own civilization in their place

vivid wasp
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Uhh
Eugenics?

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Idk what you mean I'm stupid

worldly rain
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Not the fault of humans
These dragons couldn't do shit against PO so they vented their frustration on humans

Same shit as people venting on immigrants instead of their government (sorry for being political)

vivid wasp
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Ah.

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Yeah

worldly rain
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Done by PO not humans
Government brings immigrants too to settle

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Fault is with system not people

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That's the thing for most of the humans they too have lived for 6k years now you can't just ask them to leave

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It's their home now as well

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And hoyo is heading toward that direction too
Humans banding together with dragons and going against PO

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Neuv already agrees but some of his fellow sovereign might not like Apep
But they too will have to move forward at some point

vivid wasp
worldly rain
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Humans in this case didn't kick them out either is what I'm saying

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Instead they were settled by PO after kicking dragons out
And they still were hunted by dragons wherever found

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Hell humans don't even know what their God did

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And once they knew they rebelled don't forget

vivid wasp
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Yes, but its like
Is Eula at fault for what her ancestors did?
No, and she shouldn't be blamed for it, but still its something that she kind of has to acknowledge
I'm not agreeing with the fact that humans need to leave Teyvat, but I'm just saying

worldly rain
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And does anyone from mond ask her to leave? I don't think so

vivid wasp
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No but they shit on her everyday

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For the most part

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The Lawrence clan are still assholes

worldly rain
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Yeah and neuv is ruling his own kingdom now
It'll happen give it some time
Plus not everything will involve humans giving up their own civilization they build

vivid wasp
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Yeah like idk
Eula whines too much about how she's opressed because of what her ancestors did instead of beating the shit out of her family, which is what she should do if she wants to prove herself better

vivid wasp
vivid wasp
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Eula goes to Natlan imagine

worldly rain
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Thing with dragons and humans is that they both have done harm to each other over the period of 6k years
So blaming solely either of the side won't fly with either of them
While the single entity responsible for fucking over both of them still hasn't been involved

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Not cause of lack of intent but lack of power to do so

vivid wasp
# worldly rain Thing with dragons and humans is that they both have done harm to each other ove...

Yes it's primarily PO's problem
But I dislike the ehole "both sides have done bad" thing when it comes to idk, colonialism metaphors
The Dragons had a right to fight back
Like yes, its PO's fault, not the humans so them wanting humans dead is bad
But humans worshipped the PO and the Shades, and they really only came to despise PO when their rules started to affect them, they didn't know about the Dragons

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It's also more complicated because of the fact that humans could not have lived in land with the dragons more or less
Because of the light realm and human realm and whatever

worldly rain
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Humanity was deceived you can blame them for their ignorance
But you can't blame them of PO's crime

vivid wasp
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Yeah thats another thing too
Koitar feels no pity for the Dragons as far as we know

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Yeah
That's why I hate her

worldly rain
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Where? That was shades no?

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Angels aren't even mentioned in BSAM

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Let alone first angel

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That's a parable not literal

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And branch is irminsul anyway

thick oyster
vivid wasp
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3 if she's the Pale Princess

thick oyster
worldly rain
thick oyster
thick oyster
vivid wasp
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Wellllllllll its been datamined for years now
But yeah

thick oyster
vivid wasp
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I'm aware

worldly rain
vivid wasp
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But I hope they don't change too much from it
... assuming it will even come out at this point.

thick oyster
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It just says that it happened

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And that's it

vivid wasp
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Lmao

worldly rain
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So how can you say angels were involved....
And PO and shades are indeed mentioned to fight seven sovereign

thick oyster
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And the Nails

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There has to be foot soldiers for the conflict

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The Moons imply they used them before too

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Or something akin to them

worldly rain
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It doesn't say it's dragon's related but I get the point yeah

thick oyster
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Or the hillichurl curse maybe

worldly rain
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Yes elements ruled the og world I know

thick oyster
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Or so we think
Ukko became a Hillichurl

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Still though

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They've had it in their arsenal for years

worldly rain
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Hillichurl curse is what? Abandoning your god no?
For that you need to have the rule for God first... Which definitely happened after the war

thick oyster
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But there were rebellions prior to the war

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Just ones that failed quickly

worldly rain
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@odd thicket what will you do once PO is revealed to be same as dottore... C_TaoHehe
Fighting the inevitable aka fate of abyss destroying everything

thick oyster
worldly rain
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Didn't dottore do the same he literally live experimented on humans C_TaoHehe

thick oyster
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Dottore wanted to be God and failed

vivid wasp
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I don't understand Dottore fans
Do you want him to be a unsympathetic piece of shit or a good guy

thick oyster
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Because the Fatui used him

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He's a pawn to them

worldly rain
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So did PO when he allowed them to build the unified civilization and sent angels to bring them wisdom

thick oyster
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The cycle turned into a spiral

worldly rain
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Just like dottore would have succeeded if not for our arrival

thick oyster
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Khaenri'ah as the culmination of the spiral

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Yes the demiurge does not want to be risen up against

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That was him toying with them

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He was angry that he got beaten and lasered

worldly rain
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Be evil and also be symphatetic is gray though
You can't be sympethetic to pure evil

thick oyster
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His arrogance finally ended

vivid wasp
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It was also found in Zhiqiong's quest where it was the first mention of Hyperborea and the Black Watch Tower

thick oyster
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It was an experiment to conduct his God powers

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That was Pierro's experiment
He was using Dottore to achieve fhat

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Dottore would not be aware though

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No he just doesn't like the Shades

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No way

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We don't know where the OG is or if he's even alive

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He thinks he already ascended fate

worldly rain
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I don't understand how you can want them not to be grey but then also say you want them to be symphatetic and understanding A_CryLaughTao
You can't have one without other A_HuTaoShrug

vivid wasp
# vivid wasp Which reminds me of this

Also the Spiral Abyss description mentions how the spiral staircase in the Spiral Abyss is the same one that vision users see when climbing to ascend to Celestia
So that's cool
And a little ominous

thick oyster
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Somehow

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He thinks he already won

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The mask he drops

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He wanted to study a descender

worldly rain
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Which puts those villain into moral grey area automatically

vivid wasp
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Yeah but it sounds like you want him to be entirelu sympathetic

thick oyster
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He wants to study them to give their power unto himself
That's it

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They're still calling him out as having a false moon C_TaoHehe

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Bitch couldn't even plagiarize right

vivid wasp
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What trauma does this motherfucker have

thick oyster
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Rene also wanted to be a God and failed

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He already had two
Couldn't do it on his own

thick oyster
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With the sole exception of Satoru Gojo, of course

vivid wasp
thick oyster
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Still failed

thick oyster
worldly rain
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Signora has an actual trauma A_WheezeTao
That's a symphatetic villain done right...that is if only her past wasn't hidden in lore C_TaoHehe )

thick oyster
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No welcome the Traveler

thick oyster
worldly rain
thick oyster
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No it was for the Traveler

vivid wasp
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I can't tell if you're joking or not

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Ok
But like
He was still accepted into the Academy up until he killed that chick
Idk man maybe his family was onto something in kicking him out

thick oyster
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He was just going that to try and convince the Traveler he would be a good god C_TaoHehe
Hilarious that his idea of that is just shipping random people

vivid wasp
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And he was accepted by the Fatui too

thick oyster
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Why

worldly rain
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I still don't remember where dottore past was shown besides the one where he already was experimenting in some hospital... 🥀

vivid wasp
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Like, Columbina didn't like him but it was for a good fucking reason (can't believe I'm defending her on this 🤮 )
Crucabena woked for him
Pantalone and him are in good terms
He just sounds entitled.

thick oyster
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Genuinely think that the army he's bringing is actually to help

worldly rain
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Pants wants to be playable A_WheezeTao

vivid wasp
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Also it said it was for "unknown reasons" who's to say he wasn't killing cats or something like every serial killer does as a child

thick oyster
thick oyster
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Then they would just do him like they did Nefer
Give him easy assignments and never challenge him

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Not kill another student

worldly rain
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If my academy wanted me to experiment on rats and I started doing so on humans my academy also will kick me out I'm afraid C_TaoHehe

vivid wasp
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Sounds like he was doing fuck shit if he "acted without authorization" for the third fucking time

thick oyster
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He wasn't humbling them he murdered a woman

worldly rain
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Yeah but I'm telling you why I would be kicked out E_pepelol

thick oyster
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Crucabena gave him children to experiment on

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It still says he was an arrogant person who didn't care for others

vivid wasp
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We talked about this a while back

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^^

thick oyster
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The lady he went on a date with died after going on the date with him

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Partially because of Thoth's lies

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No she didn't

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No she doesnt

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Show it

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Thoth still thought he may have left him to die

vivid wasp
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She does, but what you're saying is still wrong

thick oyster
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We are eternally trapped

vivid wasp
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Do you want him to be evil or not

thick oyster
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Then why didn't Arle ever see them again?

vivid wasp
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Repurposed in a cemetery that is

worldly rain
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You know dottore already created a God one time and we all know what happened and what "reason" he really had
Nothing to do with "humanity"

Dude just projected his own selfish desires onto humanity

thick oyster
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Arle is a Harbinger she would know

vivid wasp
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This is going nowhere but I would honestly have more respect for Dottore fans if they actually wanted the dude to be evil as they claim he does

thick oyster
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Pierro explicitly tells her that he will tell her anything she wants to know

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Shocked you didn't say that Dottore cursed Collei's eleazar so it's ok
I have legit seen that

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She did her lore explicitly shows what she asked

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We don't see all the questions

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Only 2 of them

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Pierro gave her 5

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She would know if Dottore killed the kids
He did

worldly rain
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"Merely an enhanced human? If your great nation can furnish me with sufficient resources and ample time, I could even manufacture that which you would call a god. What say you?"

"Will you treat me like the Akademiya did? Will you call me a monster, a madman?"
"Or will you treat me as my hometown did, and chase me away with pitchforks and clubs...?"

This is the whole contention here right? That he was chased because he was "perfecting" humans

I was just saying his "perfection"/"experiments" are just projection on his part where he thinks he's being misjudged when reality is that he's doing it for himself
He doesn't even see humans as humans...

"A human is nothing more than a machine of a certain level of complexity."
Thus declared the youth from his lectern in the seedbed of wisdom.

thick oyster
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He killed the kids years ago already
We know he even tried approaching her to get more kids for his island

worldly rain
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I literally qouted what he thinks of humans A_CryLaughTao

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It's all a piece of puzzle for him in his grand experiment

thick oyster
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Because she wanted him too
It was a more humane solution than actually killing traitors while still keeping the fear in her kids

thick oyster
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Evolution by killing and experimenting on people and killing random innocents
He also tortured Abbas

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For himself

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No she came up with it and just got him to collab

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His boss theme says that only he alone will ascend

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Yes
He died in 6.3 and will die again

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In 6.6

worldly rain
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You know the kind of villain you want dottore you can find that in abyss durin...
He was a monster that destroyed everything around him yet all the destruction from his pov was reflected through innocence of a child

Dottore isn't innocent is the thing though...
he knows what he's doing and he doesn't care
That's not really a symphatetic villain (not so far at least)

thick oyster
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She figured out her own supply

worldly rain
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We can claim his innocence when hoyo decides to actually show his benevolent/innocent side

thick oyster
worldly rain
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They haven't so far

thick oyster
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"I alone will be liberated"

thick oyster
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No it doesn't
It's his own treatise on how he alone will become the next Phanes

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Yes we'll get the secret good segment soon

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That has no memory of the past

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It's a prayer to him

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A prayer about his own ascension

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And the world is his

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Where does it say that in the song itself
It doesn't

worldly rain
thick oyster
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No it doesn't

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No it's what he believes

worldly rain
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You guys be ready for playable dottore now

thick oyster
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Because he doesn't think he's doomed he's arrogant

vivid wasp
thick oyster
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He thinks he's better than Rene
He thinks he's better than everyone

worldly rain
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Rerir has better chance atp than dottore ngl

vivid wasp
#

Dottore becoming playable would actually get people on china straight up killed

thick oyster
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Well he thinks it's a foregone conclusion that they'll side with him

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Or he'll just kidnap them

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A literal drip marketing?

vivid wasp
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Rerir has thr paimon painting emotes and Dottore has none

thick oyster
#

What?

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No it wouldn't

vivid wasp
#

Huh

thick oyster
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Arlecchino harmed Traveler with 0 consequence

vivid wasp
#

The Paimon paintings are chibis???

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What

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Why

thick oyster
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No they wouldn't idiot

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The Shades don't give a shit about them

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They don't

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None of them do

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Except Asmoday

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I guess

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No it doesn't

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No not her either

worldly rain
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He "begged" cause he sees them as his own aka a being who preside over the world
And he wanted to find out what made them click
And when traveler revealed they're nothing like him that's when he flipped

vivid wasp
#

Istaroth's plan already worked so I doubt she cares atp

thick oyster
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Neither would Dottore
Dottore wanted to experiment on them

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She doesn't care about anything rn

vivid wasp
#

Why didn't they come down on Raiden then
She tried to kill Traveler in the AQ but was stopped by Midzuha

thick oyster
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Except Asmoday

vivid wasp
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He's not from the Mare Jivari

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Big L

thick oyster
#

Dottore says that he was gonna bring them back to his labs before Scaramouche reduced them

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Also Dottore would have experimented with their capabilities

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Yeah and he was gonna do something similar before Columbina showed up and defeated him

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No he literally says he would have

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When he's talking to them

worldly rain
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Yeah that was how traveler showed they're not what he thinks of them

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And yet couldn't think how others would feel when he was busy experimenting on them C_TaoHehe

thick oyster
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Yeah

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"Hospitable"

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Yeah around that time I believe

worldly rain
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He was intrigued by the constitution of a descender that's all
He already had the authority over the world yet here's a person who has will to overcome that
That piqued his interest

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In fact in the cutscene where he froze time and traveler kept moving made him gasp for a moment
That's where traveler fully caught his attention

thick oyster
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Yeah one he planned to win
But he didn't and was raging because of it

worldly rain
thick oyster
worldly rain
#

Tbh I do hope he gets proper background in game before he leaves and not just vague loreposting
I wouldn't want him to be signora'd when it comes to narrative

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Sorry A_HuPensive

thick oyster
worldly rain
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Well he got pale flame as well kinda one piece at least E_pepelol

thick oyster
#

I hope Da Wei gets cancer

worldly rain
#

Dude at least got his backstory with cool cutscene

thick oyster
worldly rain
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Compared to what we got in natlan it was definitely the best part C_TaoHehe

thick oyster
#

Mfs when characters have differing views on another character depending on their relationship with them

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Except the Goat Baizhu who actually has more than one kind of relationship

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"Dance if you're a fraudulent weak bum without constantly leeching off the gnosis":

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"Dance if you left your nation to fend for itself for 500 years so that you can hoard all the glory":

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No Hu Tao
She hates his ass lmao

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It was just in a constant state of war

#

Well they kinda made up in 5.3

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No it wasn't

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No reason to when she could transfer memories across generations

#

She's a disgusting pig with a dog shit design and dog shit lore and I can't wait until the next pyro DPS power creeps her

worldly rain
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I still want to know why they said natlan was frontier for abyss attack when whole teuvat is spherical and abyss can just arrive from anywhere 🥀

thick oyster
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It had some Abyss but not much

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And Scarlet Eyed Hero

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And The Archons who helped seal the Bakunawa

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No they didn't

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She abandoned all her people equally

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No they all helped keep the Bakunawa sealed

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Atea was post Cataclysm

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None of the Archons did that

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She was busy in the fire doing shit

worldly rain
# thick oyster And Scarlet Eyed Hero

Scarlet eye hero, gunhildr, nameless bard, first knight of boreus.... Surely there's an actual lore relevant reason why every civ has these important fate changing people who's identity got wiped out....

thick oyster
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I meant the Pyro Archons
Also Venti summoned Dvalin to help

thick oyster
worldly rain
thick oyster
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And SEH intentionally wiped his name from history

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Rukkhadevata and Egeria?

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Also we don't know what Belyi did yet

worldly rain
thick oyster
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Except Nameless his name was removed because he used Istaroth's power

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He did great humanity better after he visited Hyperborea
And Rotwang sounds like he was a funny little guy can't blame him for that

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The Jinn agreed to it
Also that was in Deshret's kingdom

worldly rain
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All that happened one time he decided to give human equal rights shame really A_HuPensive

thick oyster
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Belyi had to fight some straight up demons during the Archon War too

worldly rain
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It was a joke C_TaoHehe

thick oyster
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RuKKKhadevata then I guess

#

I mean Xbalanque put Och-Kan in charge after his death
That was a stupid decision

#

No she sucks

#

Her entire plan would have failed completely if Capitano wasn't there
Entirely luck based

#

If Chasca and Ororon didn't awaken Natlan would be dead

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Mavuika is a gambler

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She did

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Without him Ororon wouldn't have awakened

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They wouldn't have if it wasn't for factors outside of her control

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No he wouldn't

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He wasn't a fighter

worldly rain
thick oyster
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No she never even met some of them

thick oyster
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So she placed her whole plan into the hands of luck

#

Yeah

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No she didn't

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She didn't know what fate was it was luck

#

She was bluffing

#

Also no she didn't

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She wasn't doing anything to contact them or awaken them

#

No she doesn't

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Yeah cause she didn't know them

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How would she know something that hasn't awakened yet?

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No it didn't

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Mavuika let Chuychu die by the way

#

A coward

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Through and through

#

It was necessary to let Chasca awaken so Mavuika wanted her to die

#

Only after she got 6 luck based heroes to let her leech off of Ronova's power and still didn't win

#

Capitano's plan wasn't based on letting people die so that other heroes could awaken

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Didn't even kill it

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If she didn't sit on her ass waiting for the heroes to awaken it wouldn't have happened

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With the Traveler
Would have failed without them

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Can't even destroy their books

#

No she waited years as Archon for the heroes to awaken

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And didn't do anything to look for them

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Or help them awaken

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It would have saved all their lives though

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Not Fontaine

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For the most part

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Capitano would have helped

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No

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Traveler was just a pawn of the prophecy the whole way through

#

That was Neuvillette

#

He's a Sovereign
He is

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"One as great as he should have no need for a constellation to shine over him. After all, "fate" is merely the manner in which the present ruler of this world plays with living beings."

#

Sinners can change it

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Because of Neuvillette the Fontainians didn't dissolve

#

Also Kukulkan would have been thrilled to have a black canvas again

#

Lol

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They can remove the immortality curse

#

If he's outside fate then he is by definition a variable

#

He is

#

Vedrfolnir says that none can say proscribe Surtalogi anymore

#

No Varka says a bunch of things are variables in his quest

#

Varka avoided his own fate just by not doing it C_TaoHehe

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And his lore

#

The Abyss is also a variable then

#

There's an explanation for why you can't point where C_TaoHehe

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Focalors didn't plan for the Traveler

#

It was all on her own

worldly rain
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Narwhal basically
It was supposed to destroy tryvat as predicted by Rene
Traveler changed that fate

thick oyster
#

You're sounding like Dottore with how hard you're glazing Traveler

#

After all the incels got mad Arlecchino bitched him

#

The Abyss is entropy that will consume all of the universe eventually

#

Trust me a lot of people got mad at Traveler in Fontaine because they weren't constantly winning

#

But it is a variable in Phanes' fate

worldly rain
worldly rain
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Part of same fandom which is why no matter what happens in story someone gets angry
Fandom is just too big atp

thick oyster
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But Phanes' fate can't possibly account for it it is too strong

thick oyster
#

They were too young then

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Probably

#

We don't know how their planet was destroyed exactly

#

Yeah

#

Yeah but how did it consume the planet
And how old were the Travelers

worldly rain
#

Descender are a concept in teyvat context only

thick oyster
#

No not destroyed planets just planets O visited

thick oyster
#

Some of them maybe but not all of them

#

Some of them are never mentioned to be destroyed

worldly rain
#

I don't think so
The name itself implies it
They descended to teyvat both literally and metaphorically
It's also related to will of the planet itself which is where teyvat is unique

thick oyster
#

I don't know what their description says

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I mean yeah but all the special outfits are from other planets

worldly rain
#

No because variable can be anyone
Descender are only 4

thick oyster
worldly rain
#

We don't know that so no

thick oyster
worldly rain
#

And if pale princess is to be believed they too came from outside

worldly rain
thick oyster
#

We know that there are things that effect fate outside of Teyvat too

#

Undying Flame says so

worldly rain
#

Yes but we don't have descender outside teyvat
They are very much contextualized for current world

thick oyster
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"The fortune teller then explained the underlying principles. Put simply, it's something like this:
In our world, the stars are the heavenly strings by which humans are bound. But in other worlds, the subjects of astrological study are the solar ecliptic energies, the various lunar energies of the satellites, the will-energy of the celestial rulers of the planets, the scattered interference energy of distant stars, and the dark energy that suffuses the pitch-black cosmos. Of course, it's not like these things don't exert influence on our planet — they have merely been greatly weakened by a giant sky-shroud. As such, astrology on other worlds is far more abstract than that which is practiced in ours."

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All these things also effect fate on their planets which Descenders should be immune from

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I believe so

thick oyster
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But both Phanes and Nibelung are also descenders

vivid wasp
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Unrelated to Genshin

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The cat distribution system hath chosen me

thick oyster
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When?

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Yes
The cost was being horribly crippled

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That's why they blackmailed and killed Saarelainen

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To get the gnoses from them

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The gnoses maintain Phanes' order in some capacity

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They do have a form
Also Abyss poison

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No they shouldn't

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Only Traveler can

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Cause they're special

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And maybe Saarelainen

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Nibelung was poisoned by the Abyss and Phanes was too

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Well The Sibling also has a variation of it since Irmin used them as an Abyss refinery

worldly rain
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Skirk isn't affected by abyss either it's not unique to descender

thick oyster
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Nibelung was a descender who was weak to the Abyss as he was a dragon

sly bison
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I think that’s Beidou before Diona icon

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Mizuki getting a buff within a year is super funny tho

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A version anyways

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All that jazz

brave marten
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wait wha

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t

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wtf?

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wtf???

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why not finish the Mond units first

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wtg?

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wtf

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i dont get it

sly bison
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But that makes it funnier bc they still left out Kaeya and Lisa

brave marten
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yeah duh I'm just wondering why

sly bison
brave marten
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especially since for lunar there were no such buffs

brave marten
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yeah no shit

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it still doesn't make sense

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what are they gonna tie the buffs to

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you're delusional

lilac coral
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But Mizuki is the only anemo

brave marten
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Wrio in hex?

lilac coral
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All the others are cryo or electro

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Bruh 😭

brave marten
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I like tea too

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am I a witch

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why am I not included in the hex buffs

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well anyways

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I genuinely don't like the fact

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they didn't finish buffing rhe other Mond units

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🥀

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god this sucks

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Noelle, Lisa, Kaeya, Mika, Diona, Amber, Rosaria, Eula, Dahlia

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I mwan yeah

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but

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eh

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Jean Diluc

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too

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they gave a Hex 4* for free so it doesn't matter

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doesn't matter

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🥀

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I want whoever makes these decisions

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in hoyo

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to get

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bone cancer

sly bison
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That was never a hard rule to begin with

brave marten
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it's a joke about what they said

sly bison
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Lore wise the Hexenzirkal are just interested in XYZ characters

brave marten
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I hope they make Qiqi busted

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I have her C6

thick oyster
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So are they going to be Hexerei characters or completely unrelated to Hexerei?

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Because I thought Hexerei was for Mondstadt characters
Hmmmm

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I want more characters to feed to my Varka

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So hopefully Hex

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Yeah

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But the lore is that Varka made a deal to buff his own people

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Possibly

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Diona should be Secret Rite though

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Oh God

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At least Wriothesley is getting a buff
He's been dog shit for so long

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The greatest Imaginarium Theatre filler

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Stellar Swirl is low-key confirmed for now at least too

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So more Varka buffs lol

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I know but I'm greedy

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No

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I know

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Prune already does that on his teams

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Varka holds the Hexerei DPS set

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Celestial Gift goes to Nicole or Durin

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Who knows
It depends on how they go about it

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Well Tsaritsa should enable it ig

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Yeah
Cause Varka needs two of the other element

lilac coral
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But he does

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He has a secret rite lol

thick oyster
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Yeah that's annoying
Unless it turns out it's Diona

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What if it's Pierro lol C_TaoHehe

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Actually would be pretty cool

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Is that supposed to be a copium gif?

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Hopefully

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I just built her too lol

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I've had her C6 for years and only built her now when her buffs first got leaked

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||Actually her C6 was leaked to be getting buffs like a month ago lol C_TaoHehe||

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Well not even "leaked" they messed up and put it in a beta

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Also I wonder
We did just get that Zibai anecdote about Qiqi's zombie magic fading
Her buff quest could relate to that

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And the third adeptus who helped bless her

vivid wasp
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I got him yesterday
A friend of my mom's got him for her daughter but she ended up having really bad allergies, so he's with us now
His name is Mickey, he is the sweetest cat

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Yeah he's 1 year old

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Awww how cute

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He's very sweet
I've wanted a cat for the longest time now
I lost my 6 year old ferret last year and I've been devastated since
So I was really happy when my mom asked me if I wanted to take him in, lol

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Also about the announced Hexerei buffs
No Raiden E_OMEGARAZOR
Sad

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She's more of a dog person but she doesn't mind him, lol she got him for me mostly.

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She already is, she's just trying to be sleek about it

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She doesn't dislike cats, just prefers dogs :p

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Lol, cats are like that
Well not always, my Uncle's cat is like best friends with his dog
The two can never be separated

vivid wasp
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Aww, yeah it'd make sense she wouldn't like dogs

thick oyster
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We got our cat from a homeless lady on the side of the road who gave it to my mom heading back from work

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Here he is

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I think he's like 5 or 6 years old now

thick oyster
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Yeah

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This is his compact form he can stretch out C_TaoHehe

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They pick the spot that makes it the least capable for you to sleep in a comfortable position

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Yeah he was just a kitten when we got him
Our dog would have probably eaten him if we weren't careful

vivid wasp
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My ferret liked to sleep on a hat I had laying around

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Oh wait wrong pick

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Here we go
The other one was my friend's

thick oyster
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No when my mom brought him home our dog was curious and we were scared he'd bite him

vivid wasp
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Yes, but I only had one, the other one was my friend's ferret

thick oyster
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My cat also sleeps on my chair sometimes though he usually wakes me up when he wants to go out my room since I like to keep the door closed

vivid wasp
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So far Mickey has just been hiding under my bed,
He's very very sweet, but he's still nervous being in a new place so I'm just letting him be for now, though he comes out every now and then

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Anyway on Genshin Lore talk

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So the Hexerei buffs won't be exclusive to Mondstadt characters?

vivid wasp
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That's good
It was honestly the main complaint I had

vivid wasp
thick oyster
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Or if it'll be the same as what say Varka and Lohen have

vivid wasp
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Varka and Lohen have something different??

thick oyster
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In general

vivid wasp
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Ah, ok.

brave marten
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bro putting Cyno in Hexerei would be so dumb

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it's definitely not Hexerei

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I think Diona might be Hex

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and the others some other bullshit

thick oyster
brave marten
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other than Diona

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the rest don't make sense

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for Hex bullshit

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and for future potential buffs

thick oyster
brave marten
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the premise started when the witches wanted to help Mond citizens get stronger to be able to fight future dangers

thick oyster
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But since we're here I have been thinking
We got that Qiqi anecdote with Zibai about how her zombie powers were fading and that there were three adepti who apparently helped her with it
So her buff quest might deal with that

brave marten
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could be

thick oyster
brave marten
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I just hope it's something that makes sense somehow instead of just

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budget options for the Snezhnaya gimmick until the real units Snezhnaya units drop

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which would suck massively