ya all the easy stuff
#・lore-basement
patent cloud
ebon iris
yea hes got holes instead
also fair
was it forbidden knowledge or was it the voices of the abyss
well
assuming they arent both one in the same lmao
yea
cause when he just got abyssal power and opened the moon gate he wasnt insane
just in a lot of pain tho
glad crypt
so vedrfolnir really only had 2 lines
ebon iris
so vedrfolnir really only had 2 lines
LMAO YEA
ebon iris
okay what track has rerir memory ost
bc i havent seen anyone post it
ive seen da tagte es (the rerindis cutscene) and rerirs boss theme music
and also the one where he gets thrown into the moon gate
glad crypt
what is
queen prawn
Istaroth is the character designer for manga,giving them detailed descriptions and backstory.
Naberius is the animation studio turning manga to anime
Ronova write plot to off screen background character when necessary.
Asmoday is the director
Phanes is the author
serene folio
glad crypt
wdym
it makes sense
rewatch the cutscene
wdym the issue
are you insane
lemme listen
@odd thicket wtf do you mean
it's really good
it's designed for the cutscene
the cutscene tracks are so good holy
it is
brave marten
what's its name
brave marten
oh thanks
glad crypt
oh shit
brave marten
Dottore's motif really is there
@odd thicket did you read Dottore's weekly boss theme lyrics translation?
fym balls has it
oh
that's a person
they're interesting
I wanna know what u think about tnem
them*
hold on
Reddit
this is just some of it
at the end he says it's much more complicated
glad crypt
Here's the Nod Krai AQ exclusive track
lilac coral
https://www.reddit.com/r/DottoreMains/s/joxStO1dHH
Speaking of, do you happen to know if anyone has been able to translate the ancient Greek from the song that plays in armsvartnir with the seelies?
ebon iris
there are translations on twittetr
hold on
lemme see if that genshin music account had it
because they were posting lyrics earlier for the new tracks
brave marten
Speaking of, do you happen to know if anyone has been able to translate the anci...
honestly no but I'll try looking in genshin's lore subreddit, I often see osts translations there
brave marten
because they were posting lyrics earlier for the new tracks
oh yeah I saw them too
lilac coral
Thank you!
lilac coral
Thank you I appreciate it
I remember people just not knowing at all soon after it released because, well, ancient Greek
ebon iris
youre welcome!
this account has a lot of translations for the vocal tracks up to 6.3
like dottores theme, rerirs theme, and some others
brave marten
🧐
ebon iris
pretty much
brave marten
like dottores theme, rerirs theme, and some others
Rerir's theme? he had lyrics?
yeah the guy at the end said this is just a rough tl and it's much more complicated
ebon iris
Rerir's theme? he had lyrics?
yep
his second phase
"Redemptio Numquam Adventura" by Deer Suo (3.16)
Lyrics:
Miser Rerir (Wretched Rerir)
Quod vides perisse (What you see has perished)
Perditum Ducas (You should consider it lost)
brave marten
his second phase
I don't remember hearing any, am I deaf
brave marten
"Redemptio Numquam Adventura" by Deer Suo (3.16)
Lyrics:
Miser Rerir (Wretched ...
oof that tl doesn't bode well
ebon iris
I don't remember hearing any, am I deaf
lemme pull up the timestamp
glad crypt
his second phase
ebon iris
that too
brave marten
need to pay someone fr
ebon iris
around 1:27
brave marten
alright gimme a min
ebon iris
a mans cope will never die
(its me im mans)
technically yes!
which is why i need 6.6 preload NYOWWWWW
ugh we gotta wait till late may for all this to conclude
the wait is gonna kill me
brave marten
which is why i need 6.6 preload NYOWWWWW
hey at least the beta in the start of april is definitely giving us crumbs
ebon iris
true
brave marten
ugh we gotta wait till late may for all this to conclude
it's hard being a fan of both Rerir and Dottore 💔
ebon iris
okay grandpa its time for you to sleep
brave marten
what if I nuke you
ebon iris
LMAOOOOO
what the fuck is this scavenger hunt of a rerir story conclusion
he might as well go find the one piece at the bottom of the sea somewhere while were at it
ebon iris
it's hard being a fan of both Rerir and Dottore 💔
i know rerir will be fine in the end
dottore uh
brave marten
don't think too much about it
ebon iris
on the other hand
its not looking too good for him dottore mains
yall are gonna suffer
LMAOOOOOOO
ebon iris
I go
i call dibs on taking all ur money when you die
dont worry
ill write ur eulogy as compensation
here lies JotarD
they died because dottore died
as the nation mourns his passing, perhaps?
brave marten
i call dibs on taking all ur money when you die
im a uni student u think I have money?
brave marten
no
ebon iris
pocket change
brave marten
take care of him
ebon iris
👿
brave marten
🥹
ebon iris
nah im giving his ass away for 13 silver coins
brave marten
I can see ts happen
brave marten
nah im giving his ass away for 13 silver coins
nvm im writing in my will that he's getting buried with me
ebon iris
cant wait for the inevitable reveal that it was dottore who actually spoke in vedrfolnir's head first to create the sinners
ebon iris
nvm im writing in my will that he's getting buried with me
oh so we're grave robbing now.
thats fine
brave marten
oh so we're grave robbing now.
bro he's NOT that expensive
ebon iris
dottore is the alpha and the omega (not in the omegaverse way)
ebon iris
bro he's NOT that expensive
gotta pinch pennies where you can
if anyone will buy a dottore mini figure
i will sell
I DONT MEAN IT IN THE AO3 WAY YOU FREAKS
brave marten
what else could it mean
brave marten
oh so you like cheating
ebon iris
LMFAOOOO
YEA
IT IS NOT
I HATE LOOKING AT HIS STOMACH
I DONT EVEN CARE IF HES A TWINK I HATE LOOKING AT HIS GUTS
MAKES ME WANNA STABBY STAB
brave marten
oh
ebon iris
COVER THEM UP
brave marten
let's give him a sword piercing
ebon iris
true
brave marten
right in the heart
ebon iris
we should stab him with several spears
brave marten
ebon iris
its hard to find fics like that
like unironically
half his ship fanfics are with fucking flins
the rest are tholindis or random ass crack pairings
yea
its hard being a rerindis fan
why did the devs have to refer to his cutscene ost as "do tagte ez"
brave marten
its hard being a rerindis fan
ong
brave marten
now it just makes me depressed knowing what it means
what does it mean
ebon iris
✊ 😔
ebon iris
what does it mean
i will link you oomf's thread beacuse it has a very good interpretation of the ost and the original germanic poem
i also have my own interpretation in the comments lol
ebon iris
"then, dawn breaks"
more like the cruelty of reality
at night, they can be as normal as they can where they can love each other freely
but when dawn breaks and the moon is gone they are seperated by the cruelty of reality's dawn
not big enough chest
brave marten
https://vxtwitter.com/KhaenriahCEO/status/2031529284683120668?s=20
timely Khaenriah is your oomf?
ebon iris
yea
theyre insane for vedrfolnir
i love them for that
but also i make fun of them because of it
brave marten
lemme read the post
ebon iris
go ahead! its very nicely written
and i have my own thread relating it to Douglas Galbi's blog post in the replies
although i will admit the blog post im referring to that has the interpretation of the poem
he writes it in a very "liberal" perspective
the english translation of the germanic poem i believe is accurate at least tho
brave marten
https://vxtwitter.com/KhaenriahCEO/status/2031529284683120668?s=20
isn't dawn used to reference PO?
ebon iris
in this case dont think of the dawn as PO
its just the "dawn" of reality
this is just a setpiece focused more on rerindis relationship and what couldve been based on historical inspiration
of what
brave marten
does it even exist
ebon iris
here
brave marten
oh the poem
ebon iris
the right is the middle high germanic version
left is the english translation
theres also a vocal performance of it too actually, you can listen to it
ebon iris
10 years????
what
do you mean in 6.3 when theyre having their little tea and cakes talk
he only knocked traveler out for like a week
glad crypt
hidden zodiac
hidden zodiac
ebon iris
i dont think it was consented on both parties, ergo it was more of a forced kidnapping
hidden zodiac
I hav not kept the latin ones
ebon iris
honestly yea
difference is traveler doesnt fall in love with the beast and they kill him
twice actually
hidden zodiac
do u know anything about dottore boss theme
https://x.com/genshin_music/status/2031391058400088305?s=20
This post also has a rough TL
Wud not hav spent so much time if i had seen it before
ebon iris
ive seen that post
ebon iris
for me personally i was just asking more how each line relates to dottore
or the moon sisters or HP etc etc
hidden zodiac
Yup lol. That surprised me
hidden zodiac
what does the first word mean
Its a
Uhh
Teaching?
Yea
Its a teaching of sorts. Instructions/wisdoms
brave marten
instructions to quell seven calamities?
hidden zodiac
Irl, its related to buddhism and non duality
hidden zodiac
instructions to quell seven calamities?
Contextually yea
brave marten
https://x.com/genshin_music/status/2031391058400088305?s=20
This post also has ...
btw in the replies I found thos
this
X
hidden zodiac
Prajna = wisdom
Paramita = an act of perfecting (?)
Upadesa = instructions
brave marten
hmm
hidden zodiac
https://x.com/i/status/2031424329771032870
Ya ya, i wasted soo much time looking for this meaning in the 3 texts books i hav. Still cud not find the right words
U see in sanskrit the word systems are fucking hell, but beautiful in that way
brave marten
Ya ya, i wasted soo much time looking for this meaning in the 3 texts books i ha...
I appreciate the effort
the title and lyrics give hope but
we still have to wait
hidden zodiac
But man, whoever heard the proper lyrics.... insane
So its official??
Oh
Damn
All these guys
Are actually just tsunderes
Dottore
And 1 of the sinner who was helping trav, i forgot
brave marten
won't be a matter of time until we learn the real lyrics
brave marten
And 1 of the sinner who was helping trav, i forgot
Vedrfolnir? Rhinedottir? or are you referring to Rerir helping Columbina
hidden zodiac
Oh ya ya rerir
brave marten
ah I meant the correct translations
but as far as I can tell it's mostly criticizing PO and how Dottore wants to overcome the moon
oh true
I misunderstood the last part
glad crypt
@odd thicket it's on the genshin main channel
glad crypt
and
queen prawn
Are actually just tsunderes
They just want to dissect Traveler like the other twin
glad crypt
listen
glad crypt
wdym downloaded
glad crypt
wait for youtube
hushed narwhal
bro is in the ecosystem
glad crypt
individual
glad crypt
show
and where
link
huh, they reused music in that cutscene
this one
why not
nah it's good reusing
both cases invoke a different feeling so I wouldn't say that
Explain
You compose something better then
Then it's soulless
Idk why you're dogging on the composer, he's also behind dottore's boss theme aka Prajnaparamitopadesa to Quell Seven Calamities
You make it sound like he has only one fire track and not multiple
brave marten
I hope everything you hope for doesn't happen
lilac coral
He looks so pretty in a dress
ebon iris
yanking it off his nose
ebon iris
teehee 😁
also while ur here
@odd thicket
do you think sinners can resist erosion
because they are transcendent
i aint talking about that bum ass
oh?
what makes u say that
so sinners can transcend fate but they cant be resistant to a lower concept (time)?
ig tbf we just dont know enough about the other sinners and what limitations they even face
besides being bound to teyvat one way or another
mental? true
eh imo i think theyre bound
teyvat is the ground zero for all this shit
yea but hes booooooooooooreedddddddddd
me when i have to kill my disciple because im bored
knowing him he would make unironic alpha male gym maxxing tiktok videos
and then get a commentary slop channel video on him bc he crashed out near women
rhinedottir and surtalogi got that scientist x lab rat dynamic
she would convince him to take peptides tbh
NOOOOO SURTALOGI
fucking breaks his jaw with a tiny version of his sword so he can get that chad chin
if you think about it
all sinners are cringe
one way or another
ebon iris
I don't like it
so true!
was gonna say he got that dog in him but rerir already is that
got both the aggressive rabies side and the sad whimpering side
fuck it he can go get bit by a snake and die
LMAO
somehow this gotta be vedrfolnirs fault
🪐 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥
okay, true.
glad crypt
Absolutely not
thick oyster
Damn
Do you at least have Flins?
I wish I got his claymore too
I still have to do IT at least so I can get 1 more 10x pull probably
Oh and Abyss
Yeah
Would the forge-able Nod-Krai spear work well on Ineffa
I got Sacrificer's too
Though
Uh I think like r3
I don't even have her though so not like it matters rn 
I know
But I wanted to save for Varka and I got Columbina early
And I only started playing the game again in 5.8 after her first banner
Ye
I know
Yeah
And Columbina
So that's pretty good
glad crypt
I wish I got his claymore too
I still have to do IT at least so I can get 1 mor...
how's IT
glad crypt
i need to grind for varka weapon
river valve
IT is fucking ass
glad crypt
@river valve is it really that bad
glad crypt
can i use new ones
river valve
For the first time since IT released i had to use both of my rewinds
Superconduct needs a fucking rework
brave marten
For the first time since IT released i had to use both of my rewinds
I used them and had to retry a few times
💔
@odd thicket https://www.reddit.com/r/DottoreMains/s/003NdfJyQe
Reddit
bruh no way
queen prawn
Dottore fandom will split into two
brave marten
you could've said something related to the post
u can't open it?
then wdym what is it
🥀
I mean he's a Harbinger of Snezhnaya
in any case this mistranslation is egregious
man read the set
it's referring to the Fatui
no you didn't, this Doctor they talked about didn't even help
not like the doctor you keep talking about
he just turned a blind eye to the Fatui troop who helped them even though their order were to not help
ordered by the Tsaritsa
told you
he turned a blind eye to their "treason"
yep
yeah
brave marten
for what
I just hope they don't make him uh
I hope they don't keep blaming stuff on him or wash him completely
a middle ground is good
does he
he didn't even get a sticker
RERIR DID
AND HE DIDN'T
fuck Soreh
uhhh
no
I hope not
river valve
Hoyo needs to STOP with expys
brave marten
Hoyo needs to STOP with expys
they did
last ones were in Inazuma
oh u said hoyo not genshin
worldly rain
Cacoon was high level merged civilization that has attached itself to imaginary tree and is now trying to find similar higher level entity so that it doesn't feel lonely....
It chose solar system for it's "test"...
The test involves sending civilization level destroyers aka 14 herrscher (if you know the plot of Eva that's it basically)
Cacoon already destroyed planet Venus, Mars and finally was "defeated" In earth by Kiana (after she took it's authority)
Does this sounds similar to abyss? I doubt it
glad crypt
Hoyo needs to STOP with expys
It's variant not expy
worldly rain
Sa is dead lol
Well I don't know the details much since I didn't exactly play after part 1
But I doubt it's related
If anything abyss could be related to sea of quanta but even that's far fetched for now
Unless genshin connects something at least with wider cosmology I doubt it's clear enough to make conclusion here
It could be it's own thing too
Like even Hsr the direct parallel sequel doesn't have much to do with cacoon or Sa or anything
Very less chance for genshin
The only common thing so far is imaginary tree theory that's it
And that's something even genshin could have in fact it's similar stuff already exist with irminsul conceptually speaking
Nah cacoon is very different in nature to abyss they're not similar at all
Not to mention cacoon didn't go beyond solar system and there kiana already took control of it's authority (well she's in the process or something)
Wdym?
It's single entity there's no branch here
worldly rain
Sa isn't cacoon
Sa is also a woman
Also dead now
Vita killed her and took the authority
Basically Sa used quantum computing or something to replicate cacoon powers for herself
She started killing bubble worlds to power up
She was killed by vita and her authority was taken by her
It's a rough synopsis I don't know details either
But yeah nothing similar or related to abyss from genshin which is cosmic horror entity
As for cacoon itself well it's authority is already taken by kiana so again won't have anything to do with genshin
In honkai imaginary tree has direct counterpart which is sea of quanta
If imaginary tree creates life sea of quanta destroys it
The sea is out there to destroy the tree
Now that could be the abyss if you wanted to make a leap in connecting genshin and honkai
But that's it I'm afraid as far as connections go right now...
Especially when genshin isn't keen on said lore connection
ebon iris
Then who did
The abyss itself?
Also I cant imagine what ved would wanna be doing with someone like him lmao
worldly rain
The abyss itself?
Yes it's similar to how abyss influenced in Bennett quest
As well as how abyss tried to influence Mavuika
worldly rain
Who is Sa?
She's a villain character in HI3rd
worldly rain
I don't think Ved should be inserted everytime abyss does something
We already have distinction between them
Abyss does it's own thing
Ved does his own
It's because Ved uses abyss powers so sometimes like in case of Rerir it was Ved who we heard the voice of...Same goes for Roland
But that doesn't mean everytime it's going to be him especially when Abyss is explicitly mentioned like in case of Mad Monk or Deshret
Abyss order is different from Abyss after all
So it goes they have different action and influence
I would go so far...
Mad monk had his own dealings with abyss not related to Ved
There's a reason why his story ended in WQ
Besides a lot of people including gods have tried to alter fate doesn't mean Ved is behind everyone
Roland was explicitly mentioned alongside Ved so yes he's involved but I'm talking about other times here
Not everything is related to him or his plot
There's also the fact that Ved couldn't have done anything before getting abyss powers so anything before him isn't his doing either
Stuff like mad monk or deshret or anything before cataclysm isn't related to Ved for that matter but abyss itself
Which is highly doubtful
He's not going backwards in time like istaroth so he can't possibly be involved
On the contrary everything he's involved is from past to present
Unlike istaorth who goes from present to past
Well as far as influence goes anyway
Neither of them were
Nope nothing of the sort happened
If it did it would've been shown
ebon iris
VEDRFOLNIR......
worldly rain
Istaroth has been involved 3 times so far
In raiden story quest
In time and space quest
And with zibai
No where else she's involved as far as main quest goes
worldly rain
That's just not true
If they were involved they would be present there
Anything else is just baseless speculation atp
Especially when Ved was present in whole Roland drama and yet they wouldn't show him before? Nonsense...
ebon iris
Now now im not gouging them all
Im just poking
itll just be like
Omni man levels of poking
Cue the first episode of Invincible
worldly rain
Same goes for Istaroth she's there in zibai stuff she's there with space and time
And then she isn't in nod krai? Yeah because she isn't involved simple
Plot already ended there is no later
worldly rain
Yes there is not related to moon prison or anything but future stuff
Whole columbina stuff ended already there is no Ved or Istaroth involved here
Ved was involved with Roland
And probably istaroth will in future arc but everything in past is done
Ved was not acting through Reirr...What?
Istaroth mentioning 4 moons in prayer doesn't mean she's involved in the plot
That's like saying fontaine prophecy meant HP was involved in the plot they weren't
Istaroth was also mentioned in zibai lore yet she wasn't involved with the plot
Rerir reviving was because of dottore not Ved
Wild hunt being the abyss it is used him until they couldn't
Then they found Andrius not Roland...Roland that we saw was abyss only not his real self
Current Ved is not in nod krai
The one we saw was from 500 years ago speaking through the past
That's the vision
You're confusing things here
The same goes for Rerir
Whatever we saw of Ved was from 500 years ago
He's not there in the present
Present stuff is dottore and wild hunt only
What dain quest? There isn't any in nod krai so far
Again nothing is mentioned so far or shown
He's been in the nod krai quest two times both in the past
That's not nod krai
That's not what I'm talking about of course he's in the present time we met him in the quest already
No we're talking if he's involved in nod krai plot he isn't
Except for roland stuff which also was in the past
Neither is istaorth for that matter
Maybe in the future yes
But so far there isn't any involvement
Yes that's the vision doesn't mean he was actually there
ebon iris
Ok u keep saying that but we have no confirmation nor denial ved is using rerir
Roland def
Not rerir tho
worldly rain
Proxy here is wild hunt which is abyss not under control of Ved
You keep attributing abyss agency to Ved which is where I disagree mostly
It's abyss... Why is abyss anywhere... 
That's just how it works
It's like asking why is abyss in natlan.. Or sumeru Or anywhere
ebon iris
See ved was tryna use rerir here but thats like the only time
Everything else rerir was doing fucking with everyone in NK
That was rerirs doing
worldly rain
Because it was stopped within natlan itself lol
You think abyss wouldn't go past natlan if it hadn't been stopped?
But it didn't we stopped it
If was only if we hadn't stopped it that it would go for mond
After destroying nod krai
You're not making any sense here
You're talking about hypothetical which hasn't come to pass precisely because we stopped it
Where does it say it has to be Fontaine before mond?
You're just making thing up here lol
The same reason boreus came from nod krai to mond instead of Fontaine 
Doesn't matter the route remains the same
If boreus can come from nod krai to mond so can wild hunt
It's not special because other regions are already fighting abyss
Just because we stopped abyss calamity in other region doesn't mean it didn't exist
Mond is also closest to North so that other reason
As I said mond is closest to North that one reason it's the first target
Besides the fact that other areas were already under abyss threat
But whatever the reason be it's for abyss to ponder
The point was that it's not because Ved is controlling wild hunt
It doesn't matter when the plot already mentions that mond is closest to Northern land and first area of attack in case the northern lands fell
Like natlan is told to be closest to border so abyss influence is higher there
But based on map it doesn't look like you can see any border now can we?
Border as in teyvat border
Natlan was said to be it that's why the front line for abyss invasion
In natlan quest where else...
I remember that much at least
Something about natlan being the frontier
They also explained why abyss concentration was highest there
And that if natlan fell that would open the door for other nation
Yes
After he was sacrified iirc kana created the storm or something
Probably forgot though
sacred hornet
(Traveler): (Three moons... I wonder... which one was ***Khaenri'ah's Crimson Moon*** related to?)```
Not expecting an answer, I just want to rant that I cannot remember how the Traveler/player learned about the crimson moon prior to arriving in Nod-Krai, assuming he has not experienced any non-prerequisite game content (e.g. reading Perinheri, owning Arlecchino's weapon and reading its lore) required to reach this point in the story.Arlechinno SQ
Also character voice over is canon
But the timeline for their voice over is stuck in place,unless hoyo add a new voiceline to them
sacred hornet
Arlechinno SQ
Was her SQ a prerequisite for advancing the main storyline though? If not, I think it's a case of bad writing to have the player/traveler mention something they did not necessarily experience.
You mean this quest?
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Hunters,_Prophets
Couldn't find any mention of "Crimson"
Sorry, how does the traveler manage to draw a connection between "visionary" and "crimson moon dynasty"?
Which again is optional... sorry I don't think I'm getting your point 
queen prawn
Was her SQ a prerequisite for advancing the main storyline though? If not, I thi...
Not bad writing, if hoyo did not required the player to completed her SQ,that is bad planning but that doesnt mean Traveler didnt fought Knave before Natlan
It is the same way all event(even the recycle event) are canon to the timeline
But most of them not being permanent doesnt mean bad writing
worldly rain
Fomo writing more like
ebon iris
Roided up on the Abyss, obviously
Or if you cant access that just buy some unregulated peptides somewhere and go ham on injections
ebon iris
Nah yknow whats better than two arms
A tail
Like a Sui sibling arknights dragon tail
Either a thin long one or a thick ass heavy longer one
ebon iris
Okay maybe not a xenomorph
Sui sibling tails are fluffy and have different colors
How would that work i wonder
"Cute" brother
I am not
river valve
How does one acquire this build
river valve
Dude who the fuck is eroch do we know
river valve
Did we know of this guy before this event
Damn from where
If its some bs like 2* sword descp istg
Thats even more bs
Well it is what it is ig
Wacky ahh info in a wacky ahh place
Ig that's the whimsy of it
brave marten
Ig that's the whimsy of it
he's been known for 8 years now
people were theorizing he was a Dottore segment
but being manipulated by Dottore is pretty close ig
ebon iris
people were theorizing he was a Dottore segment
I dont think he was a segment lmao
Because varkas known him for a lot longer before becoming grandmaster
Unless eroch was some fuckin sleeper agent
brave marten
did you read the message right below it
ebon iris
Idk why people believe he was a dottore segment tho I feel itd be a lot more obvious
Eroch was just another Scara in a sense
brave marten
nothing was elaborated on him
in the webtoon
and his face was hidden
and he had the same hair color as Dottore
brave marten
yeah
ebon iris
WQ will be voiced,trust
dont do that
dont give me hope for something that will never happen
queen prawn
They will suprise us
VA will joke about WQ not being voice
Then reveal the new WQ is voiced
lilac coral
That'd be phenomenal but we all know it ain't happening if it's a world quest 😭
Maybe it'll be an interlude
brave marten
there's no interlude
lost quail
I need this to be reiterated to me
But how did Mavuika know the names of the six heros and their ancient names
Without tracking them through their childhood
Cuz we know she was dead
So she physically couldn’t but her consciousness clearly carried on enough for her to be informed of the ancient names of the heros and their names and who theyd be
But perhaps didn’t know their childhoods or how theyd grow up
Even her anecdote about Chasca was probably told to her via Citlali
Like I don’t think she knew them when they were kids via the wayob
I don’t think the wayob told her everything through their childhood
hidden zodiac
The song??
hidden zodiac
@odd thicket
The tweet below also has
Nah that is full
Just not latin
Ya coz vernacular bs
queen prawn
But how did Mavuika know the names of the six heros and their ancient names
Anyone can bear the hero ancient name, as long as they are similar to the past heroes ,in ideology or something ? Also it is most likely citlali telling Mavuika the potential candidates
lost quail
Anyone can bear the hero ancient name, as long as they are similar to the past h...
True
Cuz I heard from others that Mavuika kept track of them somehow while she was dormant
lost quail
Anyone can bear the hero ancient name, as long as they are similar to the past h...
Right perhaps the wayob knew the bearers and their history and such and merely told Mavuika of the names and bearers of those names
Or she found out their personalities prior when she emerged and was given it
Cuz ppl like to make things weird
And ppl thought shipping her with some of them was weird
I had it explained to me that Mavuika only knew who the names would be snd the bearers of those names through the wayob telling her the names and past heros giving the ok to bestow the names.
Mavuika arrived recently
So perhaps everyone had their ancient names, but when Mavuika emerged, xilonen already had hers activated
queen prawn
True
Cuz I heard from others that Mavuika kept track of them somehow while she ...
I think it is like Xbalanque,he possessed a child to see the current Natlan,it is implied he can keep possessing someone and "live" but that is immoral. So Mavuika can still communicate via Night Kingdom as a spirit, Citlali is an expert with spiritual
lost quail
I think it is like Xbalanque,he possessed a child to see the current Natlan,it i...
So you’re saying Citlali communicated with her and told her who yhe heros would be and the names that way?
I have an EXTREMELY HARD time believing Mavuika would know or care about the childhood of everyone
queen prawn
So you’re saying Citlali communicated with her and told her who yhe heros would ...
Ofc citlali is not telling her everyone childhood. But giving her information about the current state of Natlan
lost quail
Yeah
So
Mavuika only knew the names
The bearers of those names
And the state of Natlan through wayob communication
Everything else she didn’t know
She just sort of decided that it was time to pop out 5 or 6 years ago. I use Xilonen as a way to figure oyt time line since I feel like theyd be closest in age if that makes sense
So perhaps once Xilonen’s name awoken
That’s when Mavuika emerged. She didn’t now who she was. Just knew she beared the name
She merely waited for the ok that one of the names was awakened or at least two
thick oyster
Failed my final 10x wish on Varka's sig 😔
Thinking about just swallowing my pride and spending money
lilac coral
Yee lol
Though that artist also adds details and doesn't just color swap iirc
But not a ton
thick oyster
Yeah I can't get her
thick oyster
Yeah I don't have Escoffier either
Well I think I still have a couple hours left on my end
But yeah I already have a Serpent Spine on him
I might get him Mavuika's sig in the future
Mhm
Or Nicole
I want her
Linnea is thankfully very boring
Yeah she is cool
And he has a weapon skin so you don't have to worry about it not fitting
Barely even meta anymore
Fraud
Tsaritsa will save her
Before she gets power crept by Capitano
Yeah
That's already where they are man
Raiden got power crept
By Razor
She's still my goat though
Every geo buffing character is Itto upscale
She's pretty good with the new Hexerei characters too
Albedo and Durin work well with her
He has Bineffa
Yeah but he's an EM electro guy so it's less shameful
Yeah
My Sethos is pretty good actually
He's good with Hyperbloom
At least you can get Cyno cons for free
Sumeru Hexerei will save him in 3 years
Bro Superconduct is never gonna be it
Those are only with hydro reactions
Not pyro or cryo though
Hopefully they add cryo x dendro
That would be good
lilac coral
ebon iris
and in the ost where he gets thrown into the moon gate by columbina, the title of the ost is called irredeemable mercy
they really hammering home the no redemption bit
lilac coral
Hey, wouldn't you do the same for someone who committed genocide because they were told to? 
ebon iris
Hey, wouldn't you do the same for someone who committed genocide because they we...
id smack his fucking head in
several times actually
stupid mop head is gonna have burns now
either traveler or columbina
meh who knows
arguably gotta say dottore fans got it worse
Fair enough 🤭
well get em out
trust
hes too beautiful to just be sitting there like a museum exhibit
hes a dog he needs enrichment
TRUE
god yes
thats why i love him sm
lilac coral
id smack his fucking head in
Exactly!
Signora mains were the originals though, never forget how hard they held on 😔
They turn him into Sunday v2 where he's not redeemable but he spends the rest of his days trying to balance out the bad he did
They used every excuse in the book from her design to her story to the lazzo showing her moth as a means to will her back into existence as another playable character
And the other two are the same
They're just good villains in one way or another
Basically trapped innumerable people in a dream and was about to destroy everything for the sake of everyone combining as one in the name of the harmony iirc
I could be misremembering hard though since it's been a hot minute
Idk
I have no idea
No
It was something that had been occurring before the team arrived iirc
It was like
The harmony spoke through him, and wanted all to be as one
So he got as many people into the dream as possible and drew them in with his sister
Then someone murdered her IRL and she was only able to exist in the dream
Something something death in the dream was actually something else I can't remember what something something he needed to take over the dream something something the power of friendship sister saves the day he repents tada he's playable after trying to kill everyone and mash them together into one consciousness
This was also like 2 years ago so I don't remember the details 😭
But that's the gist of it I guess??
thick oyster
That we know of
worldly rain
He tried to became real God actually lol
Well for the short while before he was defeated
Not otto I was talking about Sunday
As for Otto, he created entirely new branch in imaginary tree he's different lol
worldly rain
found it to be wierdest lore book ngl
that's what lore says
it wasn't really a book but the scroll they use to paint history so it should be more relevant
i mean little witch exist that' not real but stand in for multiple witches identity
same can be true here too for vera
well not identity but story
yes the character is not real but her adventure revolves around real witche's stories
worldly rain
yes the character is not real but her adventure revolves around real witche's st...
same can be true of vera
for example take this character of princess from andromeda galaxy right? and then take nicole's anecdote story of nicola coco and her sister alynas who were daughters of king mewtos of planet mewo or something
sounds similar to me
and that's defenitly metaphor of celestia both the andromeda galaxy empire and planet meotros
i think it's trying to set up the beyond teyvat plot
a lot of these character are interstellar beings hoping from one planet to others
there tale of princess mina there too it was about multipe worlds
like these characters are yet to be revealed except for the witches
maybe they're even related to PO's history
clearly he came from somewhere
inazuma book it also had honkai reference
but yeah as i said lot of these lore books that don't make sense are clearly because the relevant plot hasn't happened
it's al setup for when we reach celestia arc
when we finally expand beyond teyvat
yes
see how a lot of these lore books have female protaganist?
remember teyvat teaser where dain says to save "her"
wheel of fortune talking about reunion with "her"
it's almost as if there's a certain hidden character in all these stories central to the plot
whoever she is i know she's the demiurge of the plot
will only get revealed when we end out journey
yes as in the plot device
all these lore centre around some woman yet to be saved
the hints all over
here's a crack theory...imagine PO is otto expy and we have to save his kallen
yes
ancestor you could say but not direct one
see kaslana were made from og kaslana's gene or dna aka Kevin by Mei
i don't know the technicality but basically they're kevin's and mei's descendant produced in lab lol
and since kevin is special so are his descendants
but that's hi3rd only
worldly rain
i don't know the technicality but basically they're kevin's and mei's descendant...
this might be wrong like there's only one son not multiple and no lab was involved but yeah
yeah go ahead it's also wierd lol
Kevin with his son
one good thing hoyo did was to stop using media outside of game itself to tell it's story
they did this with Hi3rd and early genshin but thankfully that stopped
ebon iris
Fuckkkk I just saw veras melancholy talk again
Hate that book
Hate that i cant understand a single lick of what its talking about or who even wrote it
ebon iris
see how a lot of these lore books have female protaganist?
remember teyvat tease...
I thought the "her" dain is referring to us was our sibling
Since canon uses Aether as traveler
And sibling as Lumine
LMAO
Sachi the shounen protag of the story bro
worldly rain
I thought the "her" dain is referring to us was our sibling
Twins gender is not canon
In game if they're mentioned it's always both at the same time or just golden twin
So if the gender mentions "her" only then it's someone different
ebon iris
all these lore centre around some woman yet to be saved
the hints all over
So this doesnt matter then
Bc if we play as lumine. Our sibling is aether
worldly rain
No because it doesn't matter who you play the lore still says "her"
If it was related to twins the gender would reflect that
Take sumeru for example the golden nara has different pronoun based on the twin you play
@odd thicket "Master Roland, who seeks the dark 'Tower,'
Has come before it."
Tower is indeed pathway to abyss
Lunar arcanun tower
I don't see it
No this is the one where Roland qoute is from
"What a coincidence. The radiation trapped in the planet's crust indicated that the supernova had erupted the very year the twins were born.
Naturally, the two events had nothing to do with each other. "
This is from traveler's skin
"I am the void at the moment of creation, I am the newborn spark when all things end."
"My traveling pack is empty, I have only this pure-white companion by my side."
"I will mock all desire, glory, and reason, I will tread the seven-fold steps."
"Void at the moment of creation"...coincidence?
Newborn spark...
I don't know that's the tower which mention Roland can't be decarabian
lilac coral
why did it take me this long to realize that columbina is the first playable character who's actually blind 😭
after years ago people hoped for a character at some point who'd be disabled like the blind girl in mondstadt
and after people would argue if yoimiya was the first disabled character because she had a knee guard that people thought was a prosthetic
ye
no, no need to think about it
she's a parapalegic but with working limbs
but it took this long in general to just get characters who are disabled in some fashion, even with prosthesis
and columbina being the first without having some device or anything that makes up for it other than "feeling kuuvakhi" which i still don't know what that'd be like if you were to translate it to someone without that ability
like is it similar to infrared sensing in snakes?
and then jahoda is the first one who's disabled and also isn't some deity-level creature
i thought she just couldn't, and because she had no use for her eyes she just didn't open them?
that's why she doesn't really care for things like taking off/the kuuhenki taking her veil
oh that's what you meant
i thought you meant she "blinds" herself by just keeping her eyes shut lol
i know she does 😭
yeah, all the representation is going to zzz
from personalities to disabilities to races to FURRIES
zzz has it all 
worldly rain
That's the hanged man
Yes but the Roland qoute is from the other tower card
I don't think so other lunar card don't have unrelated text
lilac coral
you get a tan catgirl and a brown bear, take it or leave it
also just did another selenic chronicle and this one where columbina brings us to her moon home and now is available at all times(?) in the cave and just... sings along with her song 
it's so nice
to hear her hum the melody
THERE'S A WHOLE DIALOGUE OPTION FOR THE MASK?
no
i took a break from genshin for a bit after getting varka
there's so much variety, they need to cycle through everything first
rn it's essentially a cancer child being given a second chance but with massive scarring from the procedures, yeah?
worldly rain
Devil pic has dragon caged in a flask surrounded by abyss hand
And the text indeed talks about abyss and false God
Yeah but it's not unrelated
Pic and text don't mismatch
lilac coral
ah
so like all their franchises?
i wonder if we will ever get a woman who is dressed for the cold in genshin
but yeah, i have 5 weeks left
river sigil
I wonder who the captain of the 5th company is, kinda weird that Lohen is specifically the vice captain
lilac coral
also i want to mention the leak about ||the new area of space coming with dornman port|| and how, now that i look at it at a different angle, a world quest like that would just be ||enkanomiya v2|| and it has me very excited even if it isn't voiced because that shit was amazing when it first came out
instead of it being something like the world quests we've gotten in more recent years and would make more sense as to how those two ||new areas|| connect because i cannot think of any other way where they would 😭
worldly rain
i wonder if we will ever get a woman who is dressed for the cold in genshin
Only time we got full clothed women in genshin was during fontaine so pray that the same designers are working on snezhnaya
thick oyster
Only time we got full clothed women in genshin was during fontaine so pray that ...
Nicole is pretty much fully clothed
lilac coral
so here's to hoping we will just get someone in a winter coat at some point in snezhnaya
i fucking forgot about that
worldly rain
Nicole is pretty much fully clothed
I was referring to something like arle or chlorinde
Nicole comes close yes but even she doesn't escape the exposed shoulder design lol
thick oyster
I was referring to something like arle or chlorinde
Nicole comes close yes but ...
I mean Arle gets a deep v neck in her boss form and Clorinde's buttons are noticeably strained so not even they're safe
Yeah
Furina too
Lauma at least makes sense to have skimpy clothes
Going off her mythology
worldly rain
I mean Arle gets a deep v neck in her boss form and Clorinde's buttons are notic...
Yeah the context being fully covered which arle base form does gets the job done as well as chlorinde
Similar design to happen in snezhnaya will take same design philosophy then unlike current ones we see
Nod krai being cold doesn't really put much pressure on its womenfolk though
thick oyster
Yeah the context being fully covered which arle base form does gets the job done...
Yeah
We don't even have any hyped Sneznahya girls besides Tsaritsa lol
Well I guess there's the girl in Linnea's intro quote
Idk
Who?
Yeah her
Will probably be hydro
ebon iris
i noticed that on the wiki, the word Devil is hyperlinked to the Five Sinners (for the Devil Card)
but tbh idk if its necessarily talking about them
more like how the HP and the Abyss are forever in a cycle of creation and destruction between each other because of their nature
"Was there ever a true age of darkness?
Where ignorance and shadow were mistaken for divine,
And the "Devil" was hailed as creator."
the first two lines at least remind me of how the sinners ended up taking abyssal power leading to khaenriahs fall
but the "Devil" hailed as creator" line is a little weird since theyre not really creators in a sense
unless we wanna count the things theyve directly or indirectly created bc of their actions
like Rhine with her monsters, Rerir with the Wild hunt, etc etc
ngl looking at the card itself
its got more Rhine motifs to it
dragon in a bottle aka Durin, the rifthounds in the background as people around them die
tho idk if its specifically a Rhinedottir related arcanum card since she already has one with Sebas in the High Priestess card
i feel the design of the card says otherwise
its so Abyss related
not sinners
just abyss in general
specifically the cataclysm in khaenriah
false history huh
for PO
ebon iris
oh? i havent heard about that
what else is fabricated
oh shit
thats fair
i think they were/are capable of a lot of things
but to fabricate history would destroy the truths and logic of this world that we know
at least, from our understanding of it
what about it?
in relation to HP i mean
i always theorized the spiral abyss was made by the crimson moon dynasty people
queen prawn
So biggest plot twist is Nibelung was created by them
thick oyster
oh shit
Suns don't just come back from supernovaing
Also Nibelung was born at the same time as Teyvat
He is it's manifestation like what Columbina is to the Frostmoon
thick oyster
so whats the truth
It was just a random destroyed planet
ebon iris
i mean i was gonna say nibelung definitely was born from teyvat at least
idk about suns turning themselves intoa new form after a literal star explosion tho i dont think thats possible
what was it that red moons are the ones closest to exploding
not mooons
thick oyster
i mean i was gonna say nibelung definitely was born from teyvat at least
Born at the same time yeah
ebon iris
suns
thick oyster
what was it that red moons are the ones closest to exploding
When suns blow up they either become black holes or becoming smaller stars
ebon iris
When suns blow up they either become black holes or becoming smaller stars
i know they become black holes most of the time
i didnt know they could become smaller stars tho
ebon iris
interesting
queen prawn
i didnt know they could become smaller stars tho
I guess you did not heard about "our sun will explode in billions year and become a white dwarf" before
ebon iris
I guess you did not heard about "our sun will explode in billions year and becom...
I thought our sun was too big for that, ngl
Tho I guess it technically isnt a red sun yet
In a billion or so years yea I do expect our sun to explode tho
queen prawn
Well,science said our sun is expanding in size,in a billion year so it will get there
river valve
He's just cheating out erosion
worldly rain
It wasn't for that lol
It was for fighting against abyss durin that he had to go to sleep to recover from corruption
worldly rain
Yeah I guess we already see him with dvalin so he was already woken up by the time
worldly rain
I don't remember actually
ebon iris
oomf was theorizing with me that the sage mentioned here was Hroptatyr
tho we got nothing else to base it off of
bro is blasphemy against reason
until proven otherwise
he legit could do anything
ebon iris
nor any other knowledge of where he could be after gaining power
that could just be anything
anything logical and reasonable in teyvat
he could flip on its head
that too
pretty much
"teyvat has its own laws"
hroptatyr:
perhaps
still pretty busted tho
its just scarier to think that we have not heard of or seen his influence anywhere on teyvat after the cataclysm
rhine, rerir and ved are obvious
surtalogi got relegated to skirks sq with her skofnungr but at least we finally know a bit more about him
where the fuck is hroptatyr?
so either the consequences of his actions have yet to be seen, or theyre already right in front of us and we just dont know it yet
him and ved are scary
LMAOOOOOO
as funny as that would be
like after all the sinners obtained abyssal power, hes the first to keel over and like
die
everyone else left
but no as funny as that is i find it hard to imagine
that would truly be a twist of the century tho
he was already dead
maybe hes schrodingers cat
both alive and dead
ebon iris
i fucking love this gif
she just hates his guts so much and hes like :)
i dont even think its cause shes envious, eftrvit/pierro would be
she just doesnt like how slimy and terrible of a person he is
despite how charistmatic he may sound
river valve
Well ig thats true why would she be envious she's a fucking shade
I think he's just off radar
ebon iris
- he and ved are secretly working together but ved is the face of the operation and hes in the back
or 8. hes in another fucking dimension
YES EXACTLY
ive posited the idea a couple times
it could be a lot of things, and it helps that ved is very
either omniscient
or omnipotent i forgot the definiitions
river valve
Alice's last speech about abyss is also interesting
ebon iris
not necessarily like that, more like hes literally ascended to a different plane of existence
like the way we interpret him is much harder to understand
he after all breaks reason
river valve
Maybe hrop is literally an unchosen fate came to being
river valve
Damn they already tried that on earth
ebon iris
😔
river valve
Guess it didn't work
ebon iris
Man fuck the sinners
tholindis is trying to do that
well just rerir
LMFAO NORDIC LORE IS WILD
i know loki did some fucked up shit cause hes trickster god but damn can bro chill
river valve
tholindis is trying to do that
They definitely fucked for sure
ebon iris
average deity mythology
river valve
Well hp also made the angels and made them very hot
ebon iris
They *definitely* fucked for sure
the devs are too scared to model a proper bed for them in their house so they just have a rock slab and sheets
ebon iris
Well hp also made the angels and made them very hot
the hp is an abusive dad 🫢
okay now thats a little much but i get why the guts are chains tho
yea
Why were they trying to murder Baldur agai
I forgot if this was the cause for ragnarok
river valve
the devs are too scared to model a proper bed for them in their house so they ju...
Thats what they call hard sex
ebon iris
Thats what they call hard sex
LMFAOOOO
rerir how hard do you have to be banging that you break fucking rock
oh ok that makes even more sense
Gotcha I remember that at least
The winter before the beginning of the end
river valve
Holy shit fimbulwinter the league of legends item
ebon iris
Holy shit fimbulwinter the league of legends item
Is everything a league reference to you /j
queen prawn
Earth reference
white spade
Morax when finds Chi
ebon iris
hooray
queen prawn
Didnt know someone datamine the Nothing Passage WQ place before
