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brave marten
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hmm well

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I hope genshin's separate

thick oyster
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The only "great one" in Genshin is the Abyss

brave marten
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im not interested in hsr much

thick oyster
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The Narwhal is kinda Bloodborne coded though

brave marten
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didnt play it yet ngl

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cz it's only on console

thick oyster
brave marten
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🥀

thick oyster
brave marten
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but it got boring quick

brave marten
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what the fuck

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lemme check

thick oyster
brave marten
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no no

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it isn't

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only through

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an emulator

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it hasn't been imported properly

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yet

thick oyster
brave marten
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ohhhhhhh I thought u meant bloodborne

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😭

thick oyster
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Oh lol

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Fuck

brave marten
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i played hsr

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a decent amount

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I liked amphoreus but I got bored at 3.4

thick oyster
brave marten
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I don't blame you

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penacony was dogshit

thick oyster
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Was dissappointed by Firefly ngl
It hurt especially cause I remember saying that it would make no sense for Sam to be a girl cause Silver Wolf was already "the tech girl" 🥀

brave marten
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in any case what I meant by great old ones, I hope it turns out Teyvat is being watched by some great old ones

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who want to seize the opportunity after the inevitable fall of the fake sky

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something like that

brave marten
thick oyster
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Narwhal comes close too

thick oyster
brave marten
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I was so hyped by SAM man

thick oyster
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Can't wait for that knight guy in Anima to be a girl too

brave marten
thick oyster
brave marten
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idk if you guys read novels but I genuinely recommend LOTM if you really like this stuff

thick oyster
thick oyster
brave marten
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read it

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it's so peak

thick oyster
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Didn't it get animated too?

brave marten
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firefly

thick oyster
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The robot Stellaron Hunter

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They advettised them before Firefly happened

brave marten
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don't get me wrong

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the animation is very good

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but they skipped over a lot of stuff

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the pacing is horrid

thick oyster
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Yeah that sounds annoying

brave marten
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do read it

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both of you

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if you like eldritch stuff

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it's genuinely made for you

thick oyster
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Sounds pretty sick

brave marten
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it takes a while to pick up ngl

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but it's well worth the wait

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yes

queen prawn
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Traveler unlocked new power that is seperating abyss from soul. Maybe hoyo teasing Rerir return,we have stuff that is related to him and all that, also might be used on ||Dottore 2nd fight as well, if he does merged with rerir remain||

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SQ that is close to an AQ

queen prawn
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Late spoiler, i didnt realise this was lore basement...

sly bison
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There’s discourse over if Hu Tao is a filler character 😭

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0 Permanent Content with lasting plot influence
0 Involvement in Archon Quests
7 Missable Events where she’s actually relevant

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She’s cooked

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I blame Vederfolnir

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He’s the reason why Genshin has no event archive

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That’s why this is even being a discourse to begin with

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Nah tenochtzitoc beat the allegations

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Both the Benny story event quest and its world quests are permanent

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And all these are permanent

The only reason you wouldn’t get it is lack of a properly enforced playing order in some spots but that’s a whole other can of worms

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Elaborate

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Ehh

That’s still what? 10% of lost context? Enjou’s still very prevalent in other parts of Natlan that it’s not that much of a detriment tbh

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Now imagine playing the Bakunawa quest without Kinich story quest

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Or better yet

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depth
More like shallow waters A_HuKek

sly bison
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And sadly some of Enjou’s best screentime (and voiced) was still event exclusive there

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😭

sly bison
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I have a headcanon as to why the Welkin moon lady changed to Columbina but looked different to begin with

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But it had more to do with Zibai

sweet dune
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hello

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why me needed

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ohh

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okay just ping me whenever i read a lot of them

sweet dune
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not yet

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It's nordic

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everything that touches irminsul is nordic, it's based of the world tree that's a passageway to the nine realms

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?

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hold on i haven't read any nod krai lore

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I need to look at what the sublunary sphere is

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Wasn't it just like

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The world as it is?

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The sphere under the moon?

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hmm

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uhhh

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o.o

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okay i was close

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also also also

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Pi

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I found the myth

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I'd heard of that thing inside thing insde thing before

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It's nordic

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koshchei

Koshchei

Koshchei (Russian: Коще́й, romanized: Koshchey, IPA: [kɐˈɕːej]), also Kashchei (Russian: Каще́й, romanized: Kashchey, IPA: [kɐˈɕːej]), often given the epithet "the Immortal", or "the Deathless" (Russian: Бессме́ртный), is an archetypal male antagonist in East Slavic mythology.
The most common feature of tales inv...

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this guy

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his death is hidden inside a duck insdie a hare inside a needle etc

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like the fae king's nemesis.

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Hmm

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i dunno much about edda

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either of them

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LMFAO

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That is the source of a lot of my norse mythos, i did go rabbit hole way back when but the names were far too complex and i ditched

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also okay i looked up what gnosticism is, and ooh, demiurge?

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Also no idk anything i told ya im a nerd for greek myths and not real shit

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WHAT

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Google said it's Christian

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chaos is almost always the beginning of everything, and the progenitor of gaia, tartarus, ouranos, and occasionally eros

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she differs

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The other primordials are sometimes children of chaos, chaos and other peeps, or the first three/four

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Yeh

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Like, sometimes, she's the mother of ouranos and gaia

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sometimes shes the wife of phanes

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wife and daughter*

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sometimes nyx is the daughter of tartarus and chaos

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(pjo)

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?

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reference

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Her anecdotes?

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I haven't done

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waitm

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Bbg shd applies in lore

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you'd think it applies specifically bcz these are the biggest story nerds ..

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Not clicking i haven't had any of hers yet

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spoiler hunt...

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also i hadn't really focused on phanes in greek myths (the other protegenos aren't really that popular)

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anything that has story or can be spoiled

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Even teapot interaction

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Voicelines

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Everything

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LISTEN

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Phanes is said to have originated from a cosmic egg, which is boring, but also the abyss

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Funny how they're (they're androgynus, with both repro organs) rhe first diety and also created from choronos and ananke/nyx's evg

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it's so weird nyx has a myth where she's phanes' mom, older wife and daughter

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Different regions

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Phanes is mostly orphic, the usual (and popular) version comes from hesoid's theogony

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asiatic

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errrr

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Associated with orpheus

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you'd remember the guy

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great singer, his wife eurydice was murdered and he turned around at the end

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I love that myth because

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Like

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It's always gonna happen.

tulip sonnet
sweet dune
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An orpheus that doesn't turn back is an orpheus that doesn't love eurydice and he did. He did love her, he loved her enough to walk into hell to bring her out of there

sweet dune
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Betcha it'll be the tsaritsa

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Or one of the older already dead lovers

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Or it won't be adapted, it's not like achilles or heracles were

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i gotta read nk lore

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Also insane that like us, mr pythagoras himself was also one of the people involved in this

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no in orphism

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THERE'S A PYTHAGOREAN CULT WRF

sly bison
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There isn’t necessarily a retcon as to who was the Welkin moon lady

It was always truly Bina

But Zibai’s appearance was loosely used as the basis bc of the false moon

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Zibai’s appearance was just a “placeholder”

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But a loosely based one

heady geyser
thick oyster
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Finally completed the new Nod-Krai areas
Not as small as I expected tbh

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I hope I can get Varka's sig though

worldly rain
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||Bennett remains unlucky|| C_TaoHehe
Wonder how it will affect all those theories...

worldly rain
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Yeah the Bennett part in new event

worldly rain
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@odd thicket did you see ||gretel||? A_WheezeTao

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||she's the npc that was with Amber|| A_CryLaughTao

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Yeah her full name is ||Eija Gretel|| lol

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That's the name yup

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Now I wonder who the kid character is from Teaser...

worldly rain
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We don't know if that story is actually true though
According to the set it's not but i guess we need more lore here

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Also so far none of his lore mentions him having a brother either except for one where it's told to be fake lol

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It's believe to be true by humans in his court but the fae who are long lived know it be fake
That's what the artifact mentions anyway

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I think it's false too because in every other lore he's mentioned as solo

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Unless new lore can add something new here then we'll see

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I'll trust fae before trusting humans simply because former is long lived and probably knows actual history while later cooked up myths C_TaoHehe

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But I'm open to the brother theory too because it's genshin after all

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Not really... Flins exists
Also Tsaritsa rule not being accepted had more to do with loyalty with Tsar than her being woman...

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It's not about their behavior it's about whether among fae or human who would actually know history...
Fae being long lived have better change there

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We'll see if that's the case when sneznaya comes but for now her gender isn't the reason mentioned anywhere so I won't jump and assume things

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Possible yes

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But I still won't trust humans in his court because they were all making shit up too
Not like they knew actual history they too were just gossiping

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So I went and read the lore again

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Ok scratch that it is believed by his non fae subjects so humans should be here

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It's a folktale it existed long before rotwang even wandered into his court

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So nothing to do with him

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No C_TaoHehe

thick oyster
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FUCK
I got Flins' spear instead of Varka's claymore

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I mean I have Flins so it isn't that bad but still

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I know this is the lore channel but I want to vent

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Yeah that sucks

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My current copium rn is that after Hoyoverse pulls support for the PS4 they'll give us a weapon as a gift

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They won't but I can dream

thick oyster
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Who are you going for?

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At least I have a Serpent's Spine to keep on Varka for the time being

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Why did the forge-able Nod-Krai claymore have to suck so much

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She's a Favonius Claymore merchant anyways

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I hope 6.5 area gives a free special weapon like what 6.0 did at least

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Yeah

thick oyster
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Yeah

ebon iris
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fighters of the wild hunt btw

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look at my lightkeepers dawg we getting overrun by the zombie apocalypse

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Why didnt rerir do this is he stupid

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💔💔💔💔💔

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should've let aino do all the work and bore them all to death with her lectures

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I think that might be gone tbh

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Washed away by the waves

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Skirk just saw it before it got erased by the tide

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Can't imagine itd still be there after 5 years

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"Traveler, I'll pay you to find Tholindis for me"
"Wtf no where am I supposed to start-"
"I'll give you 1600 primos for every day"
"DEAL"

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lowkey why hasn't this been a thing yet

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Someone/somsthing tryna manipulate the Adventurers Guild

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Would make for an interesting problem to solve

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That or security with Katheryne is watertight

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He's saving for that opportunity in Snezhnaya

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Thats how he gets on our good side day 1

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I imagine hell provide better business deals than Dottore ever could

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Dottore could've gotten us on his side during luna 4 if only he had a better HR representative

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But no he had to be all arrogant and claim all these things that wouldnt even happen

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Like false advertising

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If you want a fucking descender on ur side you gotta present yourself the best way possible and he fumbled it

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Gen wondered what wouldve happened if he did that LMAO

thick oyster
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I haven't done the new event yet

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But it sounds interesting

worldly rain
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Not much to go by tbh but could be true assuming hoyo didn't change anything since that account got deleted early

worldly rain
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@odd thicket ||so abyss being born out of resentment of fate that never came to be...

Deshret did all those things he thought would bring him to truth only to realize that all he ever truly desired was the company of nabu and rukha but that's never going to be possible now that nabu is dead because of his own action

That's also when forbidden knowledge started flooding his kingdom

Now that I think about it that could be the origin of abyss in sumeru...born from deshret's resentment that came from the fate where nabu could still be alive then||
What do you think?

worldly rain
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||I think you misunderstood
I'm not saying abyss came from alternative fate
But that alternative fate are the source through which abyss manifest or seep in into teyvat||
As for deshret let me read again when fk occured but even if it happened before his realization it won't matter because that's still an ||alternative fate that later deshret realized could happen if he didn't do what he did so resentment still exist||

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It's the same for xhol now that I think about it for natlan...

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||my new interpretation is that False sky prevents abyss from coming into teyvat by "correcting" fate(through causality) but because aternate fate can and do exist that's where abyss break through and manifest in teyvat||

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It's like good ending and bad ending of games

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Istaroth is preventing bad endings C_TaoHehe

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Yes

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||It's one way it penetrates the false sky and manifest in teyvat
There's other ways too maybe such as by someone directly coming from outside like when it happened with Nibelung||

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Hmm
||Still he came from outside bringing abyss
It wasn't related to alternative fate
So still different method for abyss to arrive||

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||One interpretation can be that the failed rebellion was the real fate
But a successful one could be alternate fate and that's where abyss manifested
But then that would make Nibelung not real as that would be abyss itself not him||

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Yes but real dvalin still exists outside so what does this mean for Nibelung?

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But we already know the real one came back

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Apep, xhol, moon sisters all are alibi

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I doubt it but let's see

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Like I don't think abyss is capable of doing all the things Nibelung did when he came back

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Yeah
Like xhol copy couldn't do much either compared to original

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Plus it goes against all established lore so far so I doubt it's abyss only

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@odd thicket on side note ||Alice talked about how if traveler didn't come someone else would've come but when asked who she didn't tell....C_HuSusge ||

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As in we're told Nibelung came the real one corrupted by abyss
He also summoned all other sovereign and tool control of moons back
I don't think fake abyss copy os capable of all those things

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Yeah but who? We even aksed and she side stepped... C_HuSusge

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Her husband? lol

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Yeah but he can come back so not a problem

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Hmm

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But wasn't he in liyue at that time...

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But we do we met him there after all

ebon iris
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dottore might as well do fuckin anything

queen prawn
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I assume it isnt exclusive to Teyvat only,perhaps other planet combine. And so the reason why there is consciousness floating around in the abyss which can be brought to life again. Because abyss is just a sea of consciousness from dead planet's living beings and the abyss destroying the planet is just to get more consciousness and grow?

lilac coral
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it' been aha all along sowing chaos

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hsr god of chaos

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figured that's similar to how you were going with destruction path

thick oyster
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They're more of an extreme trickster god
Like Loki

worldly rain
worldly rain
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they actually dropped ||Qiqi's|| lore in anecdote A_CryLaughTao

worldly rain
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Ye

brave marten
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wait

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||does the new event information mean the abyss stems from hatred of people who hate the fate they were stuck with orr?||

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@odd thicket @thick oyster

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||the hate could just be fueling the abyss rather than the person who the hatred stems from, that's what I understood at least||

thick oyster
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||It's elaborated on in some of Durin and Elynas' descriptions||

brave marten
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||where does the hate come from then?||

thick oyster
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Let me find it

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"Unborn life, unfulfilled wishes,
Tragic dreams at the edge of the universal darkness that could never come true,
Indwell my body, and descend unto this world."

brave marten
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so

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it just comes from fates that haven't been fulfilled?

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that's it?

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that's the explanation?

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I don't think that answers my question well

ebon iris
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No thats literally it

thick oyster
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"Countless wills dissolved in the water, which, like the universe, was full of souls that wished to be born. Are the newborn Hydro Tulpas from the former or the latter? They're not as different as we'd like to think, anyway. The sun can't distinguish them, and neither can time, the surging tides, or even the darkness that permeates everything."

ebon iris
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Alice explained it with her lunch break example

thick oyster
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Hydro Tulpa's description

ebon iris
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The Alice that didnt eat sweet madame and ate tea break pancakes is mad she didnt exist

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So thats where the hatred part comes from

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By the decisions being made

brave marten
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ohhhhhhhh the hate stems from the person that couldn't exist?

ebon iris
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Pretty much

brave marten
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so like the Varka who didn't get to be a hero

ebon iris
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And not just person

brave marten
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?

ebon iris
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BUT maybe events or beings

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VEDRFOLNIRRRRRRRRR

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

brave marten
ebon iris
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its a silly way to put it

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But

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Kinda yea?

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LMAO

brave marten
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girl I'm mad rn cz I lost 50/50 at the chronicle trying to get Albedo's cons

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JEAN

ebon iris
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Yea exactly

brave marten
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fuck my life bro

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😭

ebon iris
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In another timeline blythe wouldnt have to spend $300 to get varka bc hes so fucking unlucky

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Alas

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It was so fucking funny watching him hit hard pity

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And then get diluc

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Poor dude AND IT WAS ON HIS BIRTHDAY TOO

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😭😭😭😭

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Anyways with Alice's whole interpretation of the abyss and hatred of certain fates coming to be and allat

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I personally think thats just one interpretation

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Its not entirely concrete but its an interesting perspective to see it as

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Especially when fate is such a concept in genshin that can be toyed or modified with

brave marten
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well not Rerir at least

ebon iris
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Idk man rerirs pretty intimate

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What

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Anyways

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Well rerir has yet to fully even use his powers to his max potential lmao

brave marten
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PO?

queen prawn
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How is it hard confirm if none of the Sinner talked about the true nature of the abyss

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He isnt a Sinner and he is just stealing power that have nothing to do with what exactly is the abyss

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I mean,Surtalogi is battle hungry

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Hrop and Rhinedottir might know a little

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Even so,they cant fully explore the abyss,like Rhinedottir who might know about why are there consciousness in the abyss when creating durin and Elynas, Surtalogi know about the destruction part only,Hrop might know more because he seek knowledge, Rerir is too mentally ill to learn, Ved ???

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She gatekeep until hoyo want a hype patch

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Ye. But I doubt that is all Alice know,she control the border that keep the abyss away B_ZhongHmm .

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Control as in keep it stable

thick oyster
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Bro I fucking hate Ei fans so much
Neuvillette objectively beats her ass

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Please next Fontaine event have them say he's Shade level or something

brave marten
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he wasn't alone either

thick oyster
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I fucking hate Genshin power scaling so much

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Arguing with this one brain dead idiot that Zhongli explicitly states Azhdaha isn't weaker than him and he's trying to deny it

thick oyster
brave marten
thick oyster
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But Azhdaha said once that Zhongli was "the strongest among us" once and that's their sole argument

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In the original Chinese Azhdaha just says Zhongli is the "strongest SOUL" among us

brave marten
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I'm not sure but didn't it take a lot of adepti plus Zhongli to seal Azhdaha?

brave marten
thick oyster
brave marten
thick oyster
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But they don't believe it

brave marten
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at that point why even bother anymore 🥀

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it's a waste arguing with people who worship characters like that

thick oyster
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I know

brave marten
dusty parcel
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Hu tao is love, Hu tao is life

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Not lore but is fax

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Yknow what I mean?

queen prawn
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Hutao

queen prawn
thick oyster
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Literally all 5 authorities

queen prawn
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As much as I glaze columbina,she didnt lifted all the restrictions on us.

thick oyster
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The restrictions are weird

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Asmoday is weird

queen prawn
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And so she couldn't lift shade curse fully

thick oyster
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They're from different orders

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That's why it took 40 years for the Shades to win

queen prawn
thick oyster
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And HP isn't aware of Neuvi yet

queen prawn
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That what I mean

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Old rule is gone,new rule dominated old authority

worldly rain
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The only reason no one can be sure where all this lie at the end of the day is because PO is asleep
Until they wake up we won't know where they stand
Is one authority higher or lower well who knows...one side is completely out of the picture right now

queen prawn
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Asmoday should just invite us to meet her father

queen prawn
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Shade model in 7.0

sly bison
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*Genshin part 2

lilac coral
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oh hey, it's paimon

ebon iris
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no, thats Kiana

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see its her

lilac coral
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no, it's paimon

ebon iris
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tuna!

brave marten
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which post

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link?

ebon iris
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oh shit you saw that

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LMFAOOOOOOO

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yes I did write it, appreciate the compliments

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the youtube short they posted at the time really did help bc it gave me my theory on tholindis's soul having kuuvahki and being a part of rerir's heart to prevent abyssal manipulation, since imo it fit with the themes of nod krai's story so far

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"home is where the heart is" unironically fits him to a tee

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but then i also thought about how it would fit with dottore of all things

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uh spoiler alert

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it doesnt

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LMAO

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even tho khaenriah is destroyed/fell and rerir has no home to go back to, he still has tholindis

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who or what or where does dottore have? literally almost nothing

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kinda a major difference in their characters as villains and how dottore doesnt fit the molded themes of nod krai at all (as far as we know yet)

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unfortunately, i cant imagine dottore ever being able to see or get a "home" for himself that isnt just burying his head in knowledge and experiments and becoming god

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at least, not how he is right now anyway

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dottore is a self sabotager through and through and unless hes actually able to change how he sees the world and how he sees and treats others, hes never going to be able to consider something "home" for him

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either he has a world shattering revelation of some sorts or he dies never figuring it out

lilac coral
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dude her post is so depressing 😭
https://fxtwitter.com/GenshinImpact/status/2029769191029449214

Genshin Impact (@GenshinImpact)

Linnea
︀︀Advisor for the Adventurers' Guild
︀︀#GenshinImpact #Linnea
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︀︀Children born into this world often begin by seeing themselves at its very center. The realization of the rift between themselves and the world often marks the end of childhood. But what if that child is an inhuman creature living in human society? For her, the path to adulthood must be far more bitter.
︀︀Sure, this is Nod-Krai, a paradise for the eccentric and monstrous. The children of the Conch Gang only cast out adults who've come of age, and the clients of the Adventurers' Guild couldn't care less who takes on their commissions. But true hardship is born of the self. Even the children of Nasha Town will grow up eventually. One day, they will succumb to the world's definition of who they are, tracing paths that were carved long before they arrived, through an illusory forest of endless possibilities. Henceforth, the vast expanse of "what could have been" withers into "what is."…

FxTwitter ·
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like there's this adorable girl and it's just bringing up the age old "wow, imagine how much life would suck if you never grew old and saw everyone around you grow up without you" and the innocence of youth dying

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also this is nice

six common types of fae on the tundra of Snezhnaya.

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i wonder if we'll get one character from each type or not

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and then her post rounds off pretty well with a nice positive "the world is massive, she'll find her answers somewhere"

worldly rain
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@odd thicket wake up did you see linnea drip?

worldly rain
worldly rain
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Gm yeah so pale princess is finally going to be in main plot line
I wonder now if they'll start releasing the remaining volume earlier than sneznaya or wait until 7.0

ebon iris
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FUCK DID I HEAR PALE PRINCESS AND THE SIX PYGMIES

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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They better release the rest of the volumes officially in game its insane this particular story literally only has 1 volume so far

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Well now this is the right time to show it

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We really need more childe lore

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Finally get his ass back in the story

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Uh

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LMFAO NOOOOOO

worldly rain
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@odd thicket i got another crack theory wanna hear?

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Do you remember Koitar notes? Specifically the one where she tells of how voyager will be freed in future?

ebon iris
worldly rain
# ebon iris Whatd she say exactly?

".You whom my heart loves, you built this pale edifice for me, yet I am about to defy your edict and return to the lands whence we came from, which exist no more. I shall await the day freedom dawns upon you, just as you once so generously bestowed it upon me."

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Freedom dawns upon you.....

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Venti wtf are you doing

worldly rain
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Do I spoiler pale princess here or go ahead without?

ebon iris
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Lol im kidding but

worldly rain
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It's based on early datamine info from back then

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Alright
So remember the prophecy of night mother?

ebon iris
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A knight in shining armor....

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And a sword that heralds the dawn

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Or something like that

worldly rain
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Now what if pale princess is talking about Koitar and Voyager?
And channelling aka fae were key contributer to the fall of golden city...
That's why after the city fell the fae rose to power...

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And night mother prophecy sounds like what koitar is saying about how voygaer will be freed in future and come save her

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||In thousands of years time, my greatest foe will descend. He wields a sword that heralds the dawn and wears armor that can reflect the shining sunlight. He shall destroy my kingdom and bring the Prince back to life. ||

ebon iris
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Yes

worldly rain
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Yes but teyvat teaser also uses "her" So it's weird C_TaoHehe

ebon iris
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Huh?

worldly rain
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Also here's another interesting thought...
Varka was the hero of mondtstad so a "he" In fate
But that changed with traveler taking his place
Now why not that pale princess is just describing someone but later that place could be taken by traveler

ebon iris
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The characteristics of the other 5 pygmies are opposites of the main characteristics of the 5 sinners

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Blind, foolish, timid, shrunken, carefree

worldly rain
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Maybe 3rd descender was that "he" in fate but he also failed

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So now it's upto us

worldly rain
ebon iris
worldly rain
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With the new gilder lore we also know what night mother could be

ebon iris
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||i thought I saw some people say the Night Mother was Ronova, but maybe it could be the HP?||

worldly rain
ebon iris
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Ohhhhh

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Interesting

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Hmmmm

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Clearly one of those six fae is important enough that they take place of the ||guilty pygmy||

worldly rain
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Guilty one could be Belyi Tsar but that's another of my crack theory

ebon iris
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Oh? Interesting

worldly rain
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Uh someone new... Let me see the name

ebon iris
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Vodyana? Something

worldly rain
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Vodyanitsa, Prima Soprano of the Korolevskiy Troupe
@odd thicket

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Yeah true

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I already don't know how to pronounce any name A_WheezeTao

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I'll just do what I do with Ved... That's it C_TaoHehe

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I don't remember... Which story?

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I bet night mother will be the equivalent of wild hunt in snezhnaya

river valve
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Vodyanista is def gonna be playable

thick oyster
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So she'll probably be a hydro girl

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Freeze buffs coming?

worldly rain
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Nod krai was a border area that wasn't developed until Tsar took his expedition there 500 years ago
Fae always ruled Snezhnaya long before coming to nod krai
Nod krai isn't central to Fae but Snezhnaya

thick oyster
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Capitano gonna power cliff the shit out of her

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What she gets for stealing his move set

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Hoyoverse really tried to give us a cute sword cryo waifu the same patch cycle as him
They weren't slick

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linnea seems to be the uncommon type of fae

river valve
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No one should be like ysg

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Fuck that one dimensional no personality ugly ahh stupid waifu bait bitch

glad crypt
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that is not true

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btw

glad crypt
thick oyster
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She exists to hype up Surtalogi ✌️ 😭

glad crypt
thick oyster
glad crypt
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six common types of fae

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is linnea the seventh?

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that means

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67

thick oyster
queen prawn
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Why is that?

worldly rain
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That's interesting

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So changeling are a type of Fae

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They mention it in comment below

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Yeah Fae with two heart one human and other wolf

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It's from book Night Murmurs From the Far Border: Varcolac

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"However, rumor has it that the Duchess, Lady Evlampiya Orlova of Snezhnaya, is actually a Varcolac, albeit one not covered in wolf fur. "

Might be important npc or even playable character I feel once snezhnaya comes

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@odd thicket as suspected out of 6 Fae two were taken from irl myths on that twitter post

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I tried finding the names but in game lore only mentions 3 kind of Fae with changeling being the latest reveal from drip

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You could say lantern Fae which flins is could be another one but we don't have proper name for the group
And lastly we don't know what kind of fae Tsar was

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Oh right I didn't look mb

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Yeah He was that isn't contested for now
He even said he has noble blood whatever that meant

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Lore says he said that to legitimize his rule

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But maybe there's something more A_HuTaoShrug

patent cloud
brave marten
queen prawn
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He should be

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He literally shapeshift into a lantern

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Dalegrad is probably Regretor

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He look like an imp

glad crypt
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no flins is a lantern fae

thick oyster
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Well they are releasing a Pokemon-like soon

thick oyster
queen prawn
thick oyster
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Regrator is Pantalone and he's like 99% from Liyue or maaaaybe Nod-Krai

queen prawn
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could not bother remember his name heh

thick oyster
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I don't think he's the third

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But rather

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The 4th

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Yes one of the items has a lot of allusions to him

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I'll find it in a sec

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No the first ironc coin

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"An aged iron coin engraved with a stylized raven sigil. Legend says it was forged by Reed Miller, founder of the Treasure Hoarders, and was the very first true "Iron Coin."
In a world without borders, in a paradise where no one suffers from hunger or cold, the gold bestowed and governed by the Deus Auri was never meant to serve as the foundation of human cooperation.
Humans should be masters of money, not its servants. Even if one cannot claim the heart of gold for themselves, all should be able to wield the wealth that inherently belongs to everyone.

But that is a story of a much later time. Whether it was the first iron coin or the ideals sung, interpreted, and twisted over the following centuries,
it all began on a winter night beyond the reach of lamplight, when two children slipped out of the academy, hiding from the adults' eyes, and carved a token for playing the Thief Extraordinaire."

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Humans should be the masters of money
heart of gold mention
Complaining about Morax

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Very Pantalone coded

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Also I think it's very obvious that Pantalone is the head of the Voynich Guild since it isn't Nefer

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So maybe he'll have lunar mechanics

glad crypt
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i think pantalone's from snezhnaya

thick oyster
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Nod-Krai or Liyue probably

river valve
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He's definitely from china

thick oyster
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Well Nod-Krai is Sneznahya

thick oyster
queen prawn
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pantalo ancestor

thick oyster
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Reed died

glad crypt
thick oyster
glad crypt
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especially if he wants snezhnaya to replace liyue

thick oyster
glad crypt
thick oyster
glad crypt
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you're not

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it's annoying me

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S-n-e-z-h-n-a-y-a

river valve
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Senzmayah

thick oyster
river valve
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Pantaloon is as snenzayahn as dottire

thick oyster
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Since he looks like Flins

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Or his eyes do

river valve
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Also we have a fatuuh from every region except nata and leeway

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Natli is uhh , special so it doesn't count

thick oyster
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He's close enough at least

glad crypt
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pantalone from liyue seems impossible atp

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otherwise they would've teased it more

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so nod krai sounds more likely to me

thick oyster
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And mora

glad crypt
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He's obsessed with Mora

thick oyster
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And Morax

glad crypt
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So i'm guessing Snezhnayan parents

river valve
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I wouldn't even be surprised if he was a fucking adeptus

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Or a member of the qixing

glad crypt
thick oyster
thick oyster
glad crypt
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Maybe there's more than six types of Fae

thick oyster
river valve
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Yeah

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Its always 7

thick oyster
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Maybe Belyi was the seventh

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And Tsaritsa should be too

glad crypt
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idk, she could be human

river valve
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7th missing tribe , 7th missing darshan , 7th missing baddie of hexenzirkel

glad crypt
thick oyster
thick oyster
glad crypt
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Also Snegurochka could be the 7th type of Fae

thick oyster
glad crypt
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Wdym

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Who

thick oyster
glad crypt
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Linnea isn't Snegurochka though

thick oyster
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Wait lemme find it

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"wicked tricks of changelings"

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The changeling is Pakkaisukko maybe

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Who was her father

glad crypt
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So who's Snegurochka

thick oyster
glad crypt
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Also not the Tsaritsa

thick oyster
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Yes

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I agree there

glad crypt
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ngl

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what if Snegurochka is Tsaritsa

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but this is a Deshret and Nabu like duo

thick oyster
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It's just a theory

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Of mine

glad crypt
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still accurate

thick oyster
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who

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Didn't they die

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Killed by Belyi

glad crypt
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which ones are taken from irl mythos

thick oyster
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Nefer isn't that good of a person

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Yeah but that was after Belyi killed their leader

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She doesn't hate Thoth

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Pantalone is trash then

glad crypt
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still sounds accurate then

thick oyster
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He fits the Voynich Guild's character

glad crypt
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how is nefer trash

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pulcinella being a fae does seem very likely

thick oyster
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Yeah
Voynich Guild
Adventurer's Guild
Northland Bank

thick oyster
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If Pulcinella was a fae then he sided with the Tsaritsa unlike the rest of his kind

glad crypt
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we're probably getting several fae playable characters in snezhnaya

thick oyster
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She's a water imp

glad crypt
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since when

river valve
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Idk

glad crypt
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ngl starting to think

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next AQ may be fae related

thick oyster
river valve
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Wicked sentence

glad crypt
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we still have NK AQ's left right

thick oyster
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Or Dottore's return
Or Rerir's return

river valve
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"rerirs return" lmao

thick oyster
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That will remain background lore for now most likely

thick oyster
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Hm
Maybe the 6.8 area then

glad crypt
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inb4 next weekly is snegurochka

thick oyster
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Hmm

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Yeah we'll get more lore on him soon I bet

glad crypt
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maybe sandrone revival is fontaine aq

thick oyster
river valve
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Dahmered up

glad crypt
thick oyster
river valve
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There's also le pyro gnosis

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Who's gonna get that

thick oyster
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6.8 quest will probably wrap up the pyro gnosis
Since 5.8 was Nod-Krai's first quest

glad crypt
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maybe a globe trotting AQ

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nod krai, mondstadt, fontaine, sumeru

river valve
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She'd fucking die

thick oyster
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She wouldn't have a reason to

glad crypt
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pyro gnosis might be part of the snezhnaya story

thick oyster
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Capitano will get the pyro gnosis anyways

glad crypt
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and not resolved this cycle

thick oyster
glad crypt
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nah

thick oyster
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Like how we got the first Nod-Krai AQ in 5.8

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He's the only one who could

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Mavuika will either give it to him or he'll beat the fuck out of her

river valve
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If he wakes up all natlanians would just die

glad crypt
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maybe capitano revival is part of the snezhnaya AQ

thick oyster
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Nah

thick oyster
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Varka's quest foreshadowed how he'll do it

glad crypt
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mavuika and capitano are on good terms

thick oyster
glad crypt
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why

thick oyster
glad crypt
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what did she do

river valve
thick oyster
glad crypt
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be peak?

glad crypt
thick oyster
# river valve Well how

Capitano specifically says "you can't unmerge your soul with a god" because he did that
And then Varka escaped the Ley Lines and unmerged himself with a god

thick oyster
glad crypt
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the way you treat mavuika is pretty misogynist

river valve
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If he unmerges from yuhul wouldn't the night kingdom collapse

thick oyster
thick oyster
thick oyster
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Yohual has a deal with the Sibling remember?

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Plus Dain says the curse is permanent

river valve
thick oyster
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They like fighting in Natlan

glad crypt
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could relate to dottore's segments as well

thick oyster
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No.

glad crypt
thick oyster
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One off occurence

thick oyster
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About that

river valve
worldly rain
thick oyster
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Plus there are a bunch of immortal Khaenri'ahn souls in the NK now

glad crypt
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capitano will probably be revived with loom of fate shenanigans

thick oyster
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He escaped them

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Yeah all his comrades

glad crypt
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don't spoil pls

thick oyster
glad crypt
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haven't done varka's sq yet

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or the event

river valve
thick oyster
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||They say he escaped them||

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Let me find it

thick oyster
glad crypt
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i haven't done either yet

worldly rain
thick oyster
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He stuck being trapped there

thick oyster
river valve
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The souls in his artificial heart

thick oyster
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Yeah

glad crypt
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hey

thick oyster
glad crypt
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spoiler tag

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pls

worldly rain
thick oyster
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He ain't doing this

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Just give it up bro

glad crypt
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spoiler tag

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and no

thick oyster
river valve
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Also the yuhul-capitano trade is authorised by ranova

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Kind of important person

thick oyster
glad crypt
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i haven't done the quests yet

thick oyster
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She just let it slide

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He did

worldly rain
glad crypt
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i can't do it rn either

thick oyster
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Where does it say that

river valve
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If le captian wakes up deals off

thick oyster
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Yohual changed the rules

glad crypt
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anyways what is linnea's drip marketing about

thick oyster
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And Cap too

thick oyster
glad crypt
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maybe you shouldn't be so impatient

thick oyster
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It was a paradox to begin with

river valve
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Thats the change he wanted

thick oyster
thick oyster
glad crypt
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your senior

thick oyster
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He wants something to do with Project Stuzha

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He is the millistein

glad crypt
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spoiler decree is over when I say it is

river valve
thick oyster
river valve
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But that doesn't mean he'll just get up and merry go his way

thick oyster
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Mistletoe is a parasitic plant

thick oyster
glad crypt
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Mid show

thick oyster
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And Project Stuzha is Project Winter

glad crypt
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maybe mistletoe in genshin is more of an actual weapon

thick oyster
river valve
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Baldurs gate 3???

thick oyster
glad crypt
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the latter refers to columbina

thick oyster
worldly rain
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Mistletoe could be the "undying fire" which will be used to burn the irminsul

glad crypt
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i think millistein is the weapon forged out of gnoses

thick oyster
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Yes

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The character is a lot like Baldur

glad crypt
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maybe channeled through thrain himself

river valve
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Mistletoe is the kissing plant so the actual project stuzha is tsaritsa and i passionately kissing

glad crypt
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although

river valve
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🫶

glad crypt
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what if the gnosis revive ajax's consciousness kind of

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i still think the traveler will communicate with ajax somehow

river valve
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Is that veds eye

thick oyster
river valve
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I gotta play the quests damn

thick oyster
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I kinda thought he'd have gold eyes like Istaroth

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Thinking about playing those games finally
Idk where to start though

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I thought he would be blonde like him

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His hair has never been described
Rerir's turned white after becoming a Sinner

glad crypt
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i don't think that crystal is him

thick oyster
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But Rhinedottir remained blonde

thick oyster
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Istaroth is blonde in this

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But her hair is white here

268.png
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Hm

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I hope we get a Sinner Lazzo soon

glad crypt
thick oyster
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Surtalogi, Vedrfolnir, and Hroptatyr design reveals
Rerir mention and Rhinedottir could be there too

thick oyster
glad crypt
thick oyster
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She's just jealous of him

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I don't think Rhine cares about his morality other than him being a bootlicker

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Well she's just a poor man's Nibelung

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A reflection of him rather than the full thing

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Mitch

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Lol

river valve
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Why the word 'sometimes' specifically

thick oyster
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We probably will

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I wish we got a dragon chapter

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But they're too cowardly

river valve
thick oyster
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Depends on what the Epilogue is

river valve
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Epilogue is dain aether lumine threes*me

thick oyster
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When?

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Hm

river valve
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I always assumed what venti meant is if we remember him from the dvalin venti cutscene at the start and nothing deeper

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Yeah thats definitely something

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Even nahida and rukka didn't share vas and they're basically the same thing

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The anime better cover these stories

thick oyster
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The nameless bard used Istaroth's power on his own
Even she was shocked by it

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She only gave Venti her power after

thick oyster
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So I got the Zibai and Qiqi anecdote
I wonder if the adeptus that gave Qiqi her three deadly selves is the same one that helped seal Azhdaha

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We still don't know who the third one is

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Also if it was the same adeptus who helped seal Azhdaha
Then my three deadly selves Azhdaha theory would be more true

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Maybe but he just saw a sign of apaosha

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Or whatever it is called

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Yes

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Because the borders were weak there

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No before

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When he first saw it

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He was already blessed then

worldly rain
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"The cycle of seven must be removed, because the secret narrative will be blocked.
Fear and grief must be torn down, and so the barrier between life and death must be removed.
Remove the sun, the moons, and weight, for there should be no barriers between time and space.
Remove the original principles of rules, verdicts, and grace, so that she will no longer be afraid of the punishment that is laid on her kin.
Remove birds, beasts, fish, dragons, humans, and seven monk-kings, so that none shall steal wisdom."

"This is how perfection can be achieved. I can see the three of us debating in our paradise once more. We are so close.
Yes, this is splendid. I understand now. This is what I have always wanted. That which I have always longed to find once more has never been a paradise for the many."

"But I do not wish that the poison ingested by mistake should remain in this world. Perhaps she might, in light of our old friendship...
— Even if she will not do it for my sake, that is also fine. I only ask that she do me one last favor for the sake of our mutual friend... "

Deshret out there creating whole new rules like nothing C_TaoHehe

@odd thicket also I think this tells that the new info about abyss doesn't work here so i guess I was wrong about this

worldly rain
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Deshret used powers of abyss to create his own rule and later tried to cut off it's influence but he failed which is the source of forbidden knowledge flooding his kingdom

Latest info about abyss by Alice puts alternate fate as source of abyss trespassing teyvat

I had said that deshret case might be the same but clearly it's different

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Actually nvm he didn't use abyss but was influenced by it same as mad monk

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Hmm so alternate fate is still is the picture then....

worldly rain
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Yes that's what I'm saying
He tried to create new rules in his dream world that would create sort of an alternate reality
That's where the abyss came
Same as what we saw in new event with Alice

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Yeah but the idea of bubble world remains

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An alternate reality

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Through which abyss can be born

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False sky being the dream of PO C_TaoHehe

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"Take heed: what we speak of is the act of overlaying your dream upon the dream of gods; of overlaying your law, your will, and the starry sky, upon ineffable sacrifices and despair. We do not speak of following emanations to achieve ascension to the ranks of gods. This is a base dream doomed to perish within an eggshell. What I aim to teach you all is the principle of transcendence, the infinite expanse, and the innumerable stars within it. You, too, must act in this manner, unbound by any constraint. To choose division for the sake of convergence is the necessary path of "marriage."

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Abyss fucked the plan

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He had right idea about cutting the abyss in his dream world but somehow he couldn't do it

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"Next, the beastly trail from the poison should be cut off, for taking poison is a sin running deeper than the sky. But how sweet the whispers can be, and how clear the wisdom of which they speak... "

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It seemed like he was intoxicated by abyss lies the same as mad monk

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Only that he had enough will to overcome but it probably costed him his kingdom and later his life as well

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Well he clearly heard the voice of abyss so there's that
And that's one of the reasons why forbidden knowledge even infected his kingdom

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"That which I have always longed to find once more has never been a paradise for the many.
All the parodies of the teachings and the seven wise monks, or that so-called pure world free of all sorrows, none of those things matter anymore..."

There's also this that he clearly had different desire than what he had planned initially
So there's also the matter of alternate fate here

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In his world Nabu would still be alive and the trio would still remains together
This longing clearly is related to alternate fate that never came to be
And that's the source of abyss as seen in new event

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How would it work then?

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It's one thing to impose new rules over old
And entirely different destroying the old rule completely
The later even Rene warned not to do

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I think it's different thing though
Fatui aren't trying to create alternate fate
They're trying to destroy the already existing fate
Assuming Tsaritsa plan to burn irminsul is real that is

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Which begs the question how are they going to deal with abyss outside then...
Because fate is the reason the world is not fully destroyed right now

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Nope

#

I don't think so
Abyss is still outside teyvat after all
Creating new leyline isn't going to solve much unless they plan on doing something about abyss first

queen prawn
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How to beat Abyss:
Create fake Teyvat,lure the abyss and make it believe it conquered Teyvat, just for it to be a little bubble or whatever and the abyss outside Teyvat is trapped inside it and we devour it whole

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brave marten
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oh brother dawit abandoned the celestia agenda

brave marten
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yesterday I think?

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he uploaded a video about it

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mfs on the celestia sub are bamboozled

queen prawn
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It is not over

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He will return to his origin when 6.5 drop

brave marten
queen prawn
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I dont think asmoday betray Celestia, she is just smart and not delulu

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Other Shade watch the world fall while Asmoday save it by trapping twin in Teyvat

thick oyster
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They're only helping the Abyss grow
Every fate designed by them that's resisted feeds the Abyss even more

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I just finished the new event btw

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Well the Moons were still inspiring rebellion

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It would collapses eventually

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She didn't do that

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Nibelung did that

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Meet potential tree

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It was a false eternity

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Phanes destroyed every civilization that got uppity
So it was creating more unfinished fates

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Yes

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No they weren't

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It was building

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It was the Moons who first did it

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It would have contributed to the Abyss

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They brought madness and inspiration back beneath the moon. It was a reply that Order could not give.
When the morning star rose again, the archpriestess returned from the mountain's summit with a small circular talisman.

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It was always there

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Maybe it somehow corrupted Nibelung

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Yeah but Nibelung is tied to Teyvat

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Do you think that Phanes and the Moons' genocide of the dragons contributed to their unfulfilled fates?

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And since Nibelung is connected to Teyvat it corrupted him?

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No

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It didn't

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It can't do that

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Maybe

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It did somewhat

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But it can get corrupted easily

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They are

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Why do you think all the Shades are rebelling

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Irminsul just copies memories

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No

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Enforcing fate would only create more diversions

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When that fate is altered in some way

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By the Gods or dragons

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Or Descenders

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It was flawed

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Because Phanes struck down every civilization that attempted to rebel

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Phanes' interference would already distort fate

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The fate of human civilizations is to rebel against Phanes
And Phanes strikes that down time and again
So it prevents the fate of their inevitable usurpation

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Phanes is destined to be taken down

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Or is it

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Voyager turned the cycle into a spiral
Khaenri'ah is probably the spiral's conclusion

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Their king was named it too

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Also Ronova's immortality curse is greatly contributing to the Abyss
Those humans were fated to eventually die
However Ronova prevented that

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Maybe

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Andersotter says it's the one most set in stone though

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Yes

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So to prevent it is to prevent destiny

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Contributing to the Abyss even more

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They weren't corrupted though

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Caribert wasn't

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Unrealized fate is the Abyss

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Ukko wasn't corrupted either
He was from Vindagnyr

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She was ordered by Phanes not to

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Khaenri'ah seems to have been a blind spot for Celestia in general

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Unless PO wants the Abyss to be cultivated

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It wasn't that common

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Skirk's lore was just using it as an example

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Ig

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Man I can't wait for 6.8

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Since that's when the Pyro Gnosis will be taken

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Yeah
The first Nod-Krai AQ was in 5.8 after all

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Well in 6.0

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Yeah

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I mean 7.0

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I always get them mixed up

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No it's on the time

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No

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We'll get the Sneznahya trailer in like late 6.7 or so

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No they won't

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Yes

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Technically that was the Tsar's death

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Since it caused a civil war

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That Tsaritsa quelled

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His death is weird

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We'll get more info eventually

ebon iris
thick oyster
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That means another male character
And Sneznaya is already cutting into Hoyo's waifu reserves

ebon iris
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Nah all the males gonna come out in Khaenri'ah

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Snezhnaya finna be another natlan waifu patch

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TRUE

thick oyster
ebon iris
thick oyster
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Childe's sister will become his new BIS support

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With the upcoming Sneznaya buff for the Harbingers too

cold creek
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Guys after this dottore arc, what will traveler do in nod krai?

patent cloud
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what do you mean until, bro has been doing that with dailies for years

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traveler is now 600 morbillion primos in debt

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yep

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they're cooked

ebon iris
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pantalone will feel the wrath of the proletariat

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and he shall die on his throne mutilated into a mess

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also snezhnaya will add mikolash from bloodborne into the game just to fuck with us

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billionaires are not your comrade bro 😭

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unless ur Bruce Wayne I guess

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OKAY TRUE

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THATS WHAT THEY ALL SAY SOB

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lets chase each other in the speed run killer dungeons and stab ourselves with poison knives together 💖💖

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unironically

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if they introduce Lenin in snezhnaya or something

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Imma laugh so fucking hard

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Theres gonna be lore that whoever the Lenin stand-in NPC is is gonna have beef with the Tsaritsa

worldly rain
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What's the context for this?

queen prawn
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Descender was promised to the Fatui 10000 years ago

ebon iris
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@odd thicket i was talking to oomf earlier about our favorite sinner and i just realized

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do you think theres a reason why rerir has eyes on his palms

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cause a lotta fucking things in genshin have eye motifs

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i thought it was just cause ronova has a buncha eye motifs as well, like in natlan or the wings behind her

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but if the other sinners end up having eye motifs in their designs then it gets really sus

queen prawn
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Judgmental eye

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Genshin is obsessed with eyes

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I checked symbolic for eye and it match with Neuvilette eye glove

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Ei has eyes motif too

patent cloud
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1631

queen prawn
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Damn I fell off

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1576 only

patent cloud
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i havent been taking all the new easy ones no

ebon iris
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ved i get hes the all seeing motherfucker

patent cloud
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no i have all those

ebon iris
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but the other sinners too

patent cloud
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im missing 1 commission achievement in total