・lore-basement

[odd thicket]

we are resurrecting him using his core/ blood

but the soul is of mini durin

no
old one gone completely
but the durin is ours not the old one

wait

[modern plover]

core and blood doesnt mean the same thing

[modern plover]

alright i stand corrected

[odd thicket]

dw

i thought so at first too

[modern plover]

then that must be a very big misunderstanding among the community

many ppl ic thought so too

[odd thicket]

tes

yes

[modern plover]

reading comprehension 101. so true

[odd thicket]

its different for rhine

and naberius

[odd thicket]

concept art

[hearty ice]

Is it true that Durin will have Nibelung soul inside of him?

[odd thicket]

no

[spark portal]

@lilac coral YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THAT THERE IS AN ACT II??? 6+ HOURS JUST FOR THE FIRST ONE AND NOW POTENTIALLY ANOTHER 6 HOURS FOR THE SECOND ONE REEEE

WHAT I MEANT BY LUNA I IS THE WHOLE UPDATE AQ, NOT JUST THE FIRST ONE, I SAID LUNA I BECAUSE IT'S THE OFFICIAL UPDATE NAME FOR THIS REGION

[lost quail]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8ShG3PV/

post like this make me mad. Not because I can’t accept the fact that she’s not a good person completely. She’s not. She’s done ALOT!! But theu completely don’t understand why people say she’s a better parent than Crucabena. And saying she’s not a parent just a child soldier owner is fucking wild.

The fact they expect a perfect parent is crazy, they’re gonna hate my mom.
Arlecchino is a parent at this point because she accepts herself as a parent. She even views the hearth more like family than an organization.

I’m so tired pookie

[odd thicket]

This reel doesnt play for me

Coz its banned here

[odd thicket]

They are dum dum

House of the hearth still improved a ton

[lost quail]

Like no I definitely agree she picked up some bad parenting styles like telling her kids not to cry and let their emotions boil over, because in her experience it causes her to do exactly what she told them it would do. During her fight with Crucabena she let emotions get the better of her until she decided that wasn’t the play snd fought and survived the fight because she was in control. I definitely agree that it’s horrible to make children believe they’re gonna die if they betray and to be honest?? It wasn’t a complete lie at all, they will die just not physically or mentally, but memory wise and it’s only memories of the hearth so they can live a normal life. And she did this because she believe everyone deserves freedom, she literally just can’t risk the hearths safety so she says what she says.

But NOOOOOO guys!!! She hates her kids!!! She abuses them because she sees them as objects!!!

[lilac coral]

Wdym? I haven't played the Luna acts yet, I told you the length of the quest with ineffa 😭

Someone else told you that the Luna quest was 6 hours

Fucking getting pissy with me over something I didn't do

I forget who told you the Luna quest length though

When they said it I was like "yeah, that seems fair for two acts"

[lost quail]

She’s quite lenient. A child literally stole earrings on a mission. Crucabena would’ve been a bitch but Arle? Not only did she give her advice but she literally GOT HER A NECKLACE TO WEAR. Or was it earrings?… she’s a lil too lenient to be honest. Because she lets them go as they please, make friends. Do hobbies, explore themselves, have fun, play games, she bonds with them. Literally she ONLY enforces two things. Loyalty and not letting their emotions get to them. And shit if I recall correctly, in pretty sure she KNOWS Freminet cries and even left the room for him to cry. I think this is in Lyney’s character stories. His or Freminet. I don’t have Lyney but I read his character stories cuz I’m hot like that.

Like compared to Crucabena or how any other harbinger would treat them she’s VERY lenient. Even allowing them to leave. She just picked up really bad habits. Thinking her survival instincts should be passed on that was born from an abusive environment. With her action in turn being “abusive” she’s not cruel she’s just really fucking strict. This bitch would die for them ankle biters

Why do you think she came to Neuvillette twice concerning their reputation? She even has neuvilette and operatives check on the ones she lets go to see if they’re doing alright.

[odd thicket]

In short shes turned the hearth to a more amenable, real place for kids to grow rather tjam suffer

[lost quail]

Like I get raising child soldiers is morally bad and abusive in of itself. Oh I agree. But she legit had no choice in the matter. Nor does she even like doing what she does. If she did she wouldn’t set them free.

She wouldn’t mourn their deaths and avenge them. She wouldn’t fight so hard to protect them. Like you’re a fucking idiot if you think she goes out of her way to abuse these kids. She does not go out of her way to abuse these kids. She tells them things thst she thinks will make them better fighters and people based ok her experience. It just so happens she came from a broken home. Thus continuing a negative cycle. She views it as necessary to be strict with yhem because she thinks it’ll help them survive.

Like trust me she’s NOT A GOOD PERSON lmao anyone claiming she’s a good person is delusional. I No good person does the things she does as a fatui member.
She kills evil people but she still yk. Killed them.

Stop saying she’s an evil ass parent. I’m genuinely like so tired bro

[spark portal]

||I am SO cannot wait to learn Nefer's past, what makes her so stingy and selfish (I hope that her being selfish isn't actually because everyone in Nod-Krai is selfish), being so pessimistic and cautious (this is when Lauma is being honestly friendly), even Dori is scared of her||

[sweet dune]

THE TINIES

[lost quail]

||I’m trying to get Lauma’s personality down. So far she’s gentle and caring towards all living things.. seeing them as equal||

[lost quail]

Also I think it’s fair to say she was kinda pushed into this position or forced in the first place.

She had no choice but to accept being the knave because she wanted to make sure no one else abused the children, as well as if she refused the pardon she likely would’ve been killed snd someone else would’ve watched the hearth and in her mind she just couldn’t risk the possibility of the wrong person looking after them. She was and only is concerned for her children and the hearth. She didn’t wanna be fatui.

[spark portal]

@lilac coral ah, sorry sorry, I wasn't scrolling up to see who said about the duration level itself

[lilac coral]

No worries lol

[spark portal]

Alright then, let's get pissed on the right person

@median elm WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS A SECOND ACT??? I PLAYED THE FIRST ONE FOR 6+ HOURS AND THERE IS A SECOND ONE REEEEE

[spark portal]

WHAT I MEANT BY LUNA I IS THE WHOLE UPDATE AQ, NOT JUST THE FIRST ONE, I SAID LUNA I BECAUSE IT'S THE OFFICIAL UPDATE NAME FOR THIS REGION

[lilac coral]

LMAO

[spark portal]

I was finishing up Act I in the middle of the night, that's why I was so pissed to see there is an Act II and wasn't thinking clear

[lilac coral]

You're fine lol

I thought it was funny

Just out of left field getting blamed for something I just didn't do

[median elm]

[spark portal]

@odd thicket ||I think I just realized what happened about Lumine way after Act I, "she" wasn't real, so "she" never wanted to learn about the history of Teyvat dated back to its origin||

[spark portal]

||Wait wait wait, is the game just a bit of hallucinations of the mc or what? How the fuck did the abyss sibling appeared outside of the spaceship, but there were nobody going out from the inside of the spaceship?||

[worldly rain]

||either the memories we saw were not fully real or the siblings did not arrive at the same time in teyvat which if you consider bp story parallels seems more likely||

[spark portal]

||This game has turned into Alan Wake for a second lol||

[spark portal]

||Bro, this Act II has become a cherkov's gun||

[worldly rain]

@odd thicket
||A drifting star that even the "fortune" that wove the "world" could not imprison.
To the master of the cage, a path with no design has always been inexcusable folly.

"I am the void at the moment of creation, I am the newborn spark when all things end."
"My traveling pack is empty, I have only this pure-white companion by my side."
"I will mock all desire, glory, and reason, I will tread the seven-fold steps."
"One star rises in the heavens, one star falls in the valley, the two have always been the same."

• Lunar Arcanum XXII: The Fool||

Last verse is interesting... ||the two have always been the same||

[odd thicket]

So

||trvaller is the tenth harbinger||

And also

||similar to Primordial||

In that they were androgynous

Both ||brother and sister||

Like Po was ||father and mother||

[worldly rain]

Hinting towards something like that yeah

[odd thicket]

This makes that glider description odd

||twin stars captured in planet’s orbit||

[worldly rain]

maybe its just metaphorical then

[odd thicket]

Perhaps the khaenrians somehow ||had them separated in orbit into brother and sister to avoid summoning a fully powered second Primordial One||

[spark portal]

Hoyoverse were one action a way from making the game gorey during 5.8 AQ

[lilac coral]

i'll be honest, i was wondering why i kept seeing people talking about a new ||area being released in nod krai when the current map matches what they showed for nod krai in that one web event|| until i decided to climb around on the moon-shaped island to the west and saw this in the distance 😭

it looks so ominous with all the spiky bits

oh i just realized, maybe it's the ||lightkeeper's lighthouse?|| since we don't have it in this version from what i've seen so far

i mean that thing on the right looks like one

[odd thicket]

There are out of bounds videos for it

It is two islands

Sorry, areas

One is the are you said

The other is ||lake armestrivir|| or something

[lilac coral]

ahh okay

[odd thicket]

Where ||varka and favonius knights head to at the beginning of aq to investigate the abyss||

[lilac coral]

interesting

[odd thicket]

Nod krai is very small all things considered

[lilac coral]

i mean

it still has a lot

[odd thicket]

Non

[lilac coral]

it looks to be bigger than inazuma with those accounted for, no?

[odd thicket]

Maybe one more expansion after this

But this is set

[odd thicket]

Idts

I 100% hiisi island and it is defo smaller or as large as watatasumi island

Paha should be the smallest

[lilac coral]

but it's not just hiisi island

it's all of them combined

[odd thicket]

If you add all three

[lilac coral]

• the ones you mentioned

[odd thicket]

It should amount in size similar to the four inazuman islands minus Tsurimi ig

Like.. fontaine ?

Fontaine before petrichor

[lilac coral]

fontaine is decently large though

[odd thicket]

Her character was done very well

[odd thicket]

Compared to natlan it feels small ngl

[lilac coral]

• underwater exploration everywhere

[odd thicket]

Lots of empty space underwater

Exploration in natlan was vast too

[lilac coral]

?

there were puzzles and chests and hidden corridors and things everywhere

and entire questlines with areas underwater

[odd thicket]

Chained to the ocean floor or sides

[lilac coral]

like narzissenkreuz

[odd thicket]

I wish there was more in the middle of water

Like a floating building

But anyway

I am sorry for deviating

Lemme bring up the nod krai satelite

https://preview.redd.it/the-geography-and-inspirations-of-nod-krai-satellite-map-v0-921jmehzoowe1.png?width=1055&format=png&auto=webp&s=eaf3d48346657e9e5c0eeedcef14dcfd4cb0e8bf

Here

[lilac coral]

that doesn't have nod krai on it...?

how is it a nod krai map lol

[odd thicket]

Sorry

[lilac coral]

np

[odd thicket]

It was before 6.0

[lilac coral]

of course inazuma will be bigger if nod krai isn't even there

there is this one for a general idea i suppose

[odd thicket]

Yeah

My discord crashed

Wtf

This is with the next area

@lilac coral

[lilac coral]

holy shit imagine if they keep snezhnaya roughly the same size with all the land up north

and idk, it looks larger than inazuma to me with that

granted idk how tall/how much underground stuff there will be in comparison either

and if natlan was anything to go by, they could always give us more alternate dimensional areas to explore

[lilac coral]

i just realized something

we didn't get any new loading screen tips with nod krai

we've gotten them in every patch that adds a region/special area (like the summer areas), but there's none for nod krai

the most recent ones were for the easybreeze resort

[queen prawn]

I swear I saw one

[lilac coral]

can you find it?

i feel like it would've been somewhere on the wiki

[spark portal]

||Frostmoon Scion should put a bounty on Dottore's head for putting a warrant on Columbina, their dearest goddess/friend||

[river valve]

Goddamn the fucking hiisi library has big lore

||so the third descender was NOT nibelung and primordial ones name is eeringly similar to paimon||

[odd thicket]

The similarity in name dont matter

Its just a fun tidbit

[river valve]

The first two characters in its chinese name is ||paimon||

[odd thicket]

Ars goetia and finnish translation had a coincidence

I feel like its a misdirecttion

||paimon|| is undoubtedly related to ||PO|| but

The demon names make the latter ||lucifer||

And ||paimon|| as ||king paimon||

[river valve]

Idk i personally would like ||paimon to be PO rather than the current popular theory of her being asmoday||

[odd thicket]

Both are wrong
But the former has some low chance ill admit

Because ||PO is both father and the mother||

[river valve]

Also ||who tf is pakkaisukko do we have anything related to that||

Mfs daughter must've been mesmerising

[odd thicket]

Allegedly the ||Belyi Tsar||

[spark portal]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/s/m0aEGF1vLx

[spark portal]

Turns out, Hoyo has some pretty good concept arts, but I think we got what we have today because Hoyo probably doesn't want more storage to be eaten away

Looks like Hoyo has some concept arts for Mavu's glasses, yep, glasses.

[reef axle]

Character design isn't rrally a storage issue though. I'd suspect it's more "we tested it in X game mechanic and thought it looked weird/didnt match what we were going for"

Like how we have a ton of characters with parted hair because the back is all you see of a character 99% of the time in game, so they cant have it be flat normal hair covering all the details

[spark portal]

Turns out, we could've had a more modern sunglasses for Mavu, I think this will spark a conflict even more than what we have rn

[spark portal]

In the end, they chose the last one with probably some tweaks for it

Mualani almost looked like a modern irl beach lifeguard

[spark portal]

I think they even tried some of the concept designs in game with internal tests, judging by how Neuvi's part had pics of him inside the game

[elfin zinc]

draws neuvilette once
"Alright, perfect we got it. Ship it."

-# I am aware there are probably hundreds of concept art of him we don't have but it's funny to imagine they just got it first try and just sent it

[elfin zinc]

it's likely because sometimes concept art doesn't really translate well to 3d models, a lot of the concept art (esp earlier ones like pre-sumeru, like Yae, Raiden, Venti) had lot more flowing parts, which were probably annoying to port to 3d so they scrapped them.

[modern plover]

||there is a quest where paimon and traveller switches role in nodkrai lol||

[lost quail]

I’m not gonna lie I kinda understand why Mavuika preferred her own plan. Because I don’t think wiping an entire populations cognitive function is the right call. Sure everyone’s alive but no one’s the same

[shell heart]

Where are we getting all these concept arts from?

[spark portal]

The title has the location.

[shell heart]

Uhhh

[spark portal]

The reddit title.

[sly bison]

More like concept art is what it’s supposed to be

A proof of concept but is by no means indicative of what the character is ultimately supposed to look like

As much as I like long skirts I don’t blame them for not committing to keeping the full hem on bc of funky game and overworld mechanics that can go on

Making clipping issues even more noticeable

I do with we had more women with trousers tho

As much as I like Navia as is, it’d be cool if we got a skin for her that uses her trousers

[sly bison]

Things like flowing cloth can be weird for some games too

To the point where Birth By Sleep completely ditched the capes in the final game despite how much we saw it in the teasers

Though that could’ve also been due to engine constraints ig

[elfin zinc]

Genshin being an open world kind of limits it in a lot of model options

since it's way harder to make sure no one clips to anything in an open world opposed to something like zenless and starrail

[lilac coral]

this is probably immediately one of the creepiest npcs in the game strictly because she has dead eyes

[lilac coral]

this might also be a weird question, but does anyone know why one world quest would have the regular icon (like the one up top) while another world quest would have a border like an archon quest but it's blue (like the two beneath it)?

is it something like one is a regular world quest and the other has mini quests inside/is multi-layered?

i only just noticed it

[lilac coral]

i hate this game's physics sometimes

how the fuck am i supposed to get the drops from the bottom of the sea 😭

this isn't fontaine i can't dive

[lilac coral]

you were right, they do have some
i just saw one for the wild hunt and i guess they just haven't added them to the wiki yet, which is weird because usually everything quickly gets updated the week of the new patch 😭

[lost quail]

Why does Arlecchino view that dream of the moon “looking at her” with comfort.

My guess is that it reminds her of home? Or something?

I also agree with her that you should help yourself before you help others

I hope that doesn’t sound selfish

But if you’re not right how can you help someone else who’s not right? Especially when you have your own problems to fix first

[lost quail]

Also people often say Mavuika’s relationship with everyone is more motherly or sisterly

And I never really got that

It just seemed more casual and friendly to me

Sisterly or motherly is way too personal.

[spark portal]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/s/l9VWeNjWWa

Mavu (I think) could've had a more wild west design with this photo

[lilac coral]

Holy shit it's beta kinich, mualani, chasca, xilonen, and Ororon

[spark portal]

I think Ororon and Kinich is switched up in your order

[lilac coral]

But the one on the right has a lot more of the darker colors Ororon has and he has the ears

So in my head, the one with more dark colors and the bat ears is Ororon and the one with funny pants is kinich

Plus guy on the left has tans in the lower half of his design and flaps of fabric that sort of emulate the jacket that kinich wears around his waist

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-gif-4154286737535515245

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-leaks-genshin-impact-leaks-idle-idle-animation-gif-17677721689680598158

[odd thicket]

Well we got no info on her relationship with the crimson moon

[lilac coral]

What

[lilac coral]

Should probably spoilermark that then, since some people may not want to know leaks

[coarse oxide]

there is arlecchino in nod krai 😡😡

|| the recent leaks said arle will be using her boss model in the aq 🤔 ||

[lost quail]

You don’t

Think they’ll fight do you?

I mean

I don’t think so

I wonder when the next archon quest will actually be

[odd thicket]

Whom and whom

[lost quail]

Arle and Columbina..

[odd thicket]

Oh

No
They would fight over slice of life things like bina with sandrone ig

Have you completed the AQ?

[lost quail]

No? I watched it

So

Yeah I did

But not in my own

[lost quail]

That’s what I’m thinking

[coarse oxide]

|| not them but I think arle might run in a conflict with rerir 😣 ||

[lost quail]

EEE THAT WOULD BE SO COOL

[coarse oxide]

fr!

[lost quail]

AAAA wait please Hoyo let this happen

Plus it would make sense

[odd thicket]

Spoiler pls

[coarse oxide]

🤔

It wasn't that bad

[odd thicket]

It was the ||crimson moon that decimated rerir||

[odd thicket]

Itnis

It is

[coarse oxide]

and was more like an assumption

[odd thicket]

2 weeks

[coarse oxide]

😡

what does decimated mean

[odd thicket]

There is a 2 week long spoiler decree

[lost quail]

||I’d be so proud of her because that would mean she helped save a nation twice.||

[coarse oxide]

oh

[odd thicket]

For the lore nerds

[lost quail]

So?/nm/genq

[odd thicket]

Nm ?

[lost quail]

Not mad
I didn’t want that “so” to be seen as rude

[odd thicket]

Oh

[lost quail]

Are you saying that means she’s fated to fight him

[coarse oxide]

:O

[lost quail]

A crimson moon shall rise she said ~~~

[odd thicket]

Maybe

He is far stronger than her tho

But she can hold him back and give him a whooping

Until the homeless man comes along and settles things

[odd thicket]

And swallow the eclipse…

[lost quail]

I just..hope they don’t make her fight Colombina …….please no I’d actually quit the game

[odd thicket]

Wheel theory says her boss fight is imminent

[lost quail]

Columbina???

[odd thicket]

Yeah

She lives on in lauma’s basement and listens to spotify 24/7

[lost quail]

Hhhh….maybe they will fight then… : (

Lovers quarrel it’s ok

Imagine Columbina ask her to stay

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/love-family-gif-24307274

[lost quail]

Btw I just realized I’m genuinely uncomfortable by the notion Arlecchino can feel pain and I feel weird when I picture her making any physical notion she’s in pain

It makes my skin crawl

[lost quail]

That’s one way to look at it

[odd thicket]

Why V

?

[lost quail]

Tbf my ships are actually very small in numbers. Most I just see as friends and some as siblings

Like Mavuika and Xilonen. I don’t see them with a sibling dynamic. I see them as lovers who can’t stop fucking with each other occasionally

Cuz Mavuika only bothers and annoys Xilonen occasionally. Otherwise Xilonen wouldnt like her at all

But Sandrone and Columbina seem sibling like or friends who bother each other alot

Arle is like Mavuinen but without the occasional fondly getting on each others nerves.

I’m weird like that

[lost quail]

Because we don’t see her in pain often

To the point when I cringe when I think about it

Also is it weird that I think if Arle had a chance to not be groomed into being fatui, she’d be a zoologist instead?

Because that’s what happened. My Shayla was groomed into being a fatui. She never really had a choice.

I think she’d teach children about

Insects

Can you imagine her in a classroom going

“Now this children, is an arachnid, specifically the Natlanese wandering spider”

[worldly rain]

@odd thicket another crack theory...
Just like Andersdotter created mini durin for simulanka Istaroth created ||abyss sibling for teyvat...
She then wrote false history||

[odd thicket]

is this crack ? it seems very possible

in a way it makes sense

in a roundabout way (Pun unintended)

abyss order defaults to vedrfolnir , mirror of istaroth

[odd thicket]

https://youtu.be/5tFIQoVOYqA?feature=shared

you might be just right

[lost quail]

Add Arle and Capitano

Crack theory. Funny crack theory, just prolly a funny concept
||Arle seals Rerir away in her mind||

[odd thicket]

Why
it would be abyssal corrosion for her now

And ||rerir|| can just take over her and come back

bro ate ||kuuvahki|| like protein powder

I want arle to ||to counter his eclipse and cut his body in pieces||

She should actually be able to go on fair odds against him

As he is rn

[odd thicket]

Like trigon and raven ?

https://tenor.com/view/trigon-asarath-raven-teen-titans-dc-gif-8899530

[odd thicket]

Why not make this duo father and daughter too

Like
||rerir||
Im the mythos is a family man

[lost quail]

True she’s already been through a lot
I just want them to interact
I hope people don’t bitch about her flexing her intelligence or power

[lost quail]

Father is father

[odd thicket]

fatui fans would riot
they can satisfy all parties by havintg them duel for a good bit before ||rerir|| dispatches her and moves on to the next opponent

or have all of them jump him at once

[odd thicket]

tru

this would be the frostmoon wouldnt it?

[lost quail]

Who made this?

[lost quail]

Yhis is most likely Whats gonna happen unless Columbina buffs her

They’re all jumping him

[odd thicket]

Some bloke on fatui hq, taking arle’s spider form

[odd thicket]

They defo read JJK for this archon quest

[lost quail]

Hhhhhh

[slim mica]

The most interesting “leak” so far

Is probably the one thats going around on X

Mondstadt || getting the fontaine ||treatment

[odd thicket]

Why would it

[slim mica]

Oh you havent seen it?

[odd thicket]

I havent

Share it

[late geyser]

what does that mean

[lilac coral]

Yeah, what exactly is that lol

I don't see anything from the last week on the subreddit unless it's a story spoiler

[odd thicket]

hoyo has a tight grip on story content now

they stopped beta testing them

[modern plover]

this is ridiculously funny

||bro dont wanna study||

[shell heart]

Well we see it in the abyss so I wouldn’t be too sure

[odd thicket]

The tower in ||hiisi island is similar to the spiral abyss||

[odd thicket]

In the we are reunited trailer we see lumine run there with the crimson moon in background

[shell heart]

The tower ||that glows?? That we have the world quest for?? Sending back moon fragments??||

[odd thicket]

So prolly it is the ||iridescent||

[odd thicket]

Yep

It is supposed to stretch beyond the firmament but failed

[shell heart]

Oh yea ||then it’s the eternal moon||

The one related to ||Aria||

[odd thicket]

It is not related to her

It is her

[shell heart]

The way game has worded the lines ||the moon and the goddesses that rule over them seem to be seperate entities||

||Also considering how canon did die but the frost moon didn’t shatter||

||But I like to believe the iridiscent moon/crimson moon fell to the abyss||

[odd thicket]

No word on who cannon and sonnet are yet

[odd thicket]

The shadow of it did

It did shatter

[shell heart]

||Yea but I believe sonnet to be iridescent and canon to be frost||

[odd thicket]

The order of their names has always been aria sonnet and cannon so the names can be the other way arojnd

Best not to give them yet

[shell heart]

||What exactly does “shadow” here mean.. are we only saying this because Rerir fell into the moon’s shadow?||

[odd thicket]

Wait for definitive confirmations

[odd thicket]

No

See

Shadows in genshin are rooted in the concept of duality

Yin yang, whatever

Traveller twins, raiden twins, lyney lynette

Primordial One’s gender ambiguity , pneuma ousia, etc

[shell heart]

Light and dark?

[odd thicket]

In the main archon quest, in nod krai, i believe on ||hiisi island||

||lauma says that kuuvahki , the energy and light itself has a will||

This is a bit speculative

But i think iridescent being the ||brightest of the three, was the most imposing and her reflection/ light carried on after her death||

So when the iridescent moon shattered, nothing anchored this reflection and it sank beneath the abyssal waves, and abyss can be taken as a synonym for the true universe here, thus ending up on the skies of khaenirah

[odd thicket]

Yeah, the cliche

[odd thicket]

This is from the web event btw

[shell heart]

[shell heart]

I mean u could say it manifested in the form of ||kuuhenkis||

[odd thicket]

Also from the book, prayers to the far north, the ||iridescent moon is the only one not in control of the Heavenly Principles||

[odd thicket]

That too

I need to read the logs in the fatui research quest on nothing canyon

[shell heart]

The logs aren’t related to the moon

Iirc

[odd thicket]

They are related to kuuvahki

And you know what happened when purple hollow formed

If you had done that quest

[shell heart]

They talk about well some guys ||hunting goats|| ||some weird energy|| ||both the researchers always fighting each other and dying|| ||they uhh brought to life some weird energy (the red and blue thing||

What’s most intriguing to me is us being transported to ||what am guessing is the moon both times when doing the red/blue color thing||

[odd thicket]

Its by manipulating kuuvahki yes

[odd thicket]

Yep
And we see ||unified civilisation structures in there too||

[shell heart]

There’s also another quest ||that takes u to the moon it doesn’t have a name iirc (u fight fatui, get 3 chests||

[odd thicket]

I need to read some lore on the moon mirrors too

[shell heart]

And afaik u can go back again and again

[odd thicket]

They could explain the weird mirror in the chasm being connected to the one in ???

[odd thicket]

Where this ?

[shell heart]

Uhh

[odd thicket]

Hm

[shell heart]

I could dm u am not allowed to send photos here lol

Lemme log on

It’s on the main island

[odd thicket]

You can try #・genshin-spoilers ig

Or just dm yes

[languid bloom]

so... i dint do the "Jounrey home" quest...
i quick start the new Archon quest... Act I - A Dance of Snowy Tides and Hoarfrost Groves

what i need to know before it??

[reef axle]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

It's such a short AQ 😭

And a pretty good one too

[lost quail]

People calling Sandrone a tsundere is causing me to convulse.

[lost quail]

Also.. I said how thinking about Arle being in any pain made me feel uncomfortable

But like Mavuika looking mean or having an angry expression also makes me uncomfortable

It’s because she’s always smiling

So it feels wrong

[lilac coral]

It's like an hour or so long, tbh it's worth playing if you wanna know anything

But also it doesn't give much info on Nod Krai

Just that ineffa is from there and some stuff about the region in general that we more or less already knew

Most of it is info about natlan, actually

[lost quail]

Iwanna yap about how I ( I love Aether now) think Lumine fits better as the traveller, tomorrow

But the gist is her personality.

[reef axle]

You think Lumine is the better traveler for her personality, I think she's the better traveler for trope subversions. We are not the same

https://tenor.com/view/lumine-lumine-angry-lumine-genshin-impact-genshin-impact-gif-25445216

[odd thicket]

I think aether is the better traveller coz he is just horrible as the abyss sibling

Lumine is great at both

[stoic spade]

I wish I had picked Aether as the traveler everyday now that I get their personality, I just don't like Lumine's vibes

[sweet dune]

||the one time aether did well as abyss sibling it was rerir||

[queen prawn]

Aether just feel better because it makes sense as a big brother, Lumine as Traveler don't have personality that different, it is just the fact that their gender gave that illusion.

[queen prawn]

Is it the moon or just domain

[shell heart]

P sure it’s the former

U can go back

[lost quail]

Lmao

[lost quail]

See yeah I’m tired of this. I’m tired of people saying these two don’t have a personality.

It’s the little things that show they have personality . Lumine is sassier, and is more bold.

[lost quail]

Right. She pulls off MC perfectly. No hate to Aether, hes just a bit boring looking and he sounds so much better to me as an abyss sibling.

Lumine seems bolder, more eager to get things done. She started off introverted to me, until she met more people and became more happy. Their voices are different. When you hear lumine talk, she sounds more bolder, straightforward and even playful

[odd thicket]

[odd thicket]

I pin it down to Aether’s EN va

On design i see aether as more distinctive and recognisable than Lumine as Genshin’s immediate reference

His VA is horribly miscast

[odd thicket]

(Also that i find aether cuter than lumi)

[spark portal]

Isn't the dialogue for both traveler the same tho?

[odd thicket]

His VA has a raspy pubscent/ throaty voice

That doesnt at all suit his look

Aether deserves a boyish | youthful voice

[odd thicket]

The delivery makes a sea of difference

[spark portal]

What delivery? Most of the traveler's dialogue is muted

[odd thicket]

In the AQs

[spark portal]

Huh? Where? The current AQ? Yeah, new players totally get to immediately play the current patch AQ in the beginning of the gane

[odd thicket]

Travellers have been voiced in 5.7 and 6.0 archon quests

Where they get the limelight

[spark portal]

Still, new players are gonna have a long time before getting to those two AQ

[odd thicket]

Theres also body language hoyo gives the two

[lost quail]

It’s the delivery when they speak

[reef axle]

There's also several lines of dialogue that get changed depending on if it's Aether or Lumine MC 👀 (though this only matters for a handful of key lines)

[latent socket]

more aura farming

[modern plover]

neuvilette name drop is crazy

also im done with veresa SQ. very domestic and family friendly

at least it puts an end to the 2022 xamaran plothole in sumeru

that takes 3 damn years bruh

[sweet dune]

...how is this a leak?

this is in live version?

[coarse oxide]

the video might be

old

[coarse oxide]

yes

[lost quail]

Ngl

I’m kinda scared about Arlecchino coming to nodkrai

What if she’s the antagonist this time? : ( pookie getting outta Hoyo jail just to be the villain when ||rerir|| is RIGHT THERE

What IF SHE HELPS HIM!! Or what if we have to fight her?? Naur I’m scared

I know “fatui bad” but I like how we’ve been with Arle. Even she hopes we stay on the same side one day

[proper eagle]

.

[lost quail]

Like I KNOW she’s not a good person but it makes NO sense for her to be the villain here

She’s morally grey

Profoundly

She’s anti hero coded

I’m tired of people thinking she’s completely evil snd then going “you guys don’t actually like her cuz you won’t accept she’s evil!”

When by behavior and definition she’s neither evil nor a saint. She has good morals snd good intentions but executes them poorly due to trauma.

Now. I’m wondering why on earth theyd make her a villain in the first place

[lilac coral]

i'm getting flashbacks to when we used to have npc as a regular in the lore basement

iykyk

[lost quail]

?

[lilac coral]

nvm

there's only like 3 people who'd get the reference anyway

[lilac coral]

i just noticed that if it's raining in the black beach, the raindrops actually fall, stop and float for a few seconds, then fly back up into the sky

idk why, but it's really cool

and reminds me of neuvilette's idle

[kindred epoch]

Kuuvahki power

[odd thicket]

Why would they

||sinners|| are universally hated in genshin

And tbh
Arle wont make for an interesting villain anymore

[odd thicket]

6.0 spoilers ahead

I just realised ||Sandrone prepared Pulonia for a Rerir who ate a full shot from the Kuuvahki Canon||

||she lost to a barely 10% Rerir, would have been toast if they encountered the full charged one||

[lost quail]

That’s why I’m wondering how ||Arle, Nicole, and Dain are gonna help next month||

[lost quail]

Frien, I can’t help but see Xilonen with adhd it’s painful.

Or some form of neurodivergence

And I do not bestow this on anyone lightly…unless it’s MLP

None of them were neurotypical.

And to make sure you don’t think I’m doing it “because she’s smart” I don’t see Sandrone as being neurodivergent at all

Or Skirk

Or Dottore really

Unless you object

[odd thicket]

My little pony?

[odd thicket]

Sandrone is normal
Lazy and chaotic but is typical

[odd thicket]

Idk
Hes on the other end of the spectrum for me

Very organised and calculative

Hes always fidgeting around too

[odd thicket]

||dain has to do the heavy lifting here until arle awakens her crimson moon and kills him once more||

Speculation above

[odd thicket]

Xilonen, Citlali, Ei, all on the spectrum

[queen prawn]

I know they have personality,you said Lumine is bold which is correct, there is a reason why her fav slime is cryo

As for Aether,he is more passionate,and his slime is pyro

Which is why Pyro Aether fit so much better

Also the glowing effect on him look nice

[lost quail]

I love you for this /pl

[odd thicket]

pl ?

[lost quail]

Platonic

[odd thicket]

Ah

[lost quail]

And Cryo fits lumine..can’t wait for Snezhnaya

[queen prawn]

I wonder what real life thing they will add in Snezyaha

[worldly rain]

"In our world, the stars are the heavenly strings by which humans are bound. But in other worlds, the subjects of astrological study are the solar ecliptic energies, the various lunar energies of the satellites, the will-energy of the celestial rulers of the planets, the scattered interference energy of distant stars, and the dark energy that suffuses the pitch-black cosmos. Of course, it's not like these things don't exert influence on our planet — they have merely been greatly weakened by a giant sky-shroud. "

Was re reading little witch book found this interesting..
Talks about fate system and how external universe can't influence teyvat casue of false sky

[odd thicket]

The heavenly dome seems the be the object of hatred of all parties we have met so far

Not one person likes the it or its creator

[reef axle]

Fun trivia: The voice actors have confirmed they've been given directing to portray them differently too, so it's not just a VA thing either 👀

Ex: Lumine's JP VA:

"Actually, [when we were] on the recording site, there were directions to make Aether a little more cute, and Lumine a little more dignified."

[worldly rain]

Read the little witch book again and you can see little bit of world building for worlds outside teyvat
It's like hoyo is already building lore stuff for future when we finish our teyvat journey

[odd thicket]

Witch octavia

The millaestra intro too

Its not yet out but dumps crucial info regarding rest of the universe and its age

[worldly rain]

kinda tragic how Andersdottore dies mid way writing volume 5 of the little witch

[odd thicket]

Wait it was her last work ? Sad

[worldly rain]

Yeah

[worldly rain]

Actually wiki says she wasn't the one writing but that she died when volume 5 was being written most likely by nicole...
So I kinda made wrong conclusion there about the writer but other than that she indeed died before the book finished

[lost quail]

I don’t agree with the second one. She’s only controlling when it counts, and I don’t think she seeks subordinates when it’s not part of her work if that makes sense. She seeks subordinates to increase the hearth numbers, but not because she personally wants subordinates . She kinda has ti have them,

But she is pretty controlling lol. Girl has issues
This isn’t a leak btw

[lilac coral]

Is the nod krai quest (both part one and part two) 12 hours altogether?

If so I'm gonna have to hunker down today and the weekend and skip cleaning

[sly bison]

Ye

[lilac coral]

Okay

[spark portal]

Leak
||Since the whole Nod-Krai story won't have a part about burning the Irminsul, I think we will get it during Khaenri'ah, the door to the place is right in Sumeru, underground||

[lost quail]

Yo, weird thought. I wonder why no one’s tried to kill Arle via poison yet.

You think she can like.. smell poison or something?

You think she feeds it to a subordinate first? Or is she particular? I mean I guess logically she’d have no reason to fear being poisoned

So it’s never a thought

But I like to think her curse nullifies toxins

Since she wouldn’t dare sacrifice her children, she’d probably test it out on a subordinate

[odd thicket]

I argue poison wouldnt work

Coz vision

[odd thicket]

A good question is who would be trying to poison her

Her own kids ?

She should be immune to most poisons

[lost quail]

Does fire nullify poison like that?

I think her curse would make her immune to poison

[odd thicket]

Visions have patched up their holders before

Kinich got donut’d by a rifthound and his vision patched him up

https://tenor.com/view/rengoku-death-rengoku-donut-rengoku-vs-akaza-akaza-rengoku-gif-25168275

This is what happened to kinich

[lost quail]

Her kids wouldnt, but I dunno maybe an angry subordinate.

I don’t think she’d make her children taste test any poison.

I am confused on why Navia and Clorinde made Lynette drink poison before

WAIT NO

I MEAN DRINK SIGWINNE’s tea!!

Did Lynette tell them she was fatui or What? Why did they made her drink first?

Cuz I doubt Arlecchino would make these kids eat poison all the time

[odd thicket]

So they can catch a kiss or two while lynette is sipping her tea

[lost quail]

LMAO best answer

[odd thicket]

Maybe to build immunity

[lost quail]

Eh, I’m wondering tho. The most she’s ever done is make them think they were gonna die that’s the extreme part never to HAVING to make them go on missions. And they’re intelligence gatherers. Poison immunity isn’t necessary

[lost quail]

For what tho?

The hearth children never stated they were made to eat or drink poison for I’m

Immunity

Character stories didn’t say anything about it too

[odd thicket]

That they were aware of

[odd thicket]

Then it never happened

[queen prawn]

When are we going to see that girl in aranara quest with vision

[odd thicket]

Shes at the khia corner with Jeht, Mary Ann Guillotine, etc

[lost quail]

No they’d remember something like that

[lost quail]

They always draw Arle in dresses and skirts, I don’t understand

Lmaoo

[lost quail]

Guys I just found out

Arle might be a lesbian

Like CANONICALLY.

There’s a post explaining it

Bro

I knew it. My gaydar is never wrong. I accurately predicted Lady Dimistrescu was lesbian and Capcom confirmed it later

Look at this ( this isn’t canon, but it’s adorable)

Buddy.

Still ain’t got no bitches yet tho..loser/aff

[white spade]

Cute.

[lilac coral]

i just noticed there's this pattern carved into one of the rocks on hiisi island and wanted to share

idk if it's part of a quest or anything but i didn't notice it at first while doing a nearby puzzle and noticed it when i went to cliff the hill

[queen prawn]

Look like it represents each moon cycle for the 3 different moon

[drowsy jasper]

Isn't it interesting

How rerir

Knows about us

And our sibling

So like they have info on our spaceship

[odd thicket]

Spoiler

[lilac coral]

yeee, going from a gibbous to a crescent

[odd thicket]

they did ? damn

[odd thicket]

fish out of water

[odd thicket]

moon cycles..

so those still exist despite the presence of a moon chariot

[odd thicket]

he ideally shouldnt

[odd thicket]

the sibling met all of sinners while in khaenriah and were all in on irmin's plot

[drowsy jasper]

Yes
Though I wonder if the sibling us stronger than the sinners

Because

[odd thicket]

nope

[drowsy jasper]

Ehile rerir seems weak

[odd thicket]

they would have lost in a no diff battle vs dainsleif

sibling was let to win

[drowsy jasper]

Surtalogi is out here destroying planets

[odd thicket]

nope

also please spoiler mark current patch info

[drowsy jasper]

I mean
||He seems weaker compared to other sinners||

Like

You have Rhinedottur literally becoming a shade

[odd thicket]

that he is

but all of them have the base power

different authorities

[drowsy jasper]

Tbh

[odd thicket]

Hroaptatyr is a direct mirror to the heavenly principles

Surtologi is destroying planets

Vedrfolnir is with Istaroth or waiting for traveller alone at the end of time

[drowsy jasper]

I don't get why ||rerir|| is a villain

Like

Yes he was trapped

[queen prawn]

That is up to hoyo because they could pull thing like "Sinner stole the Abyss Sibling power" which would still make sense

[drowsy jasper]

||So he found pieces of himself and thrn becomes whole||

Like

Anyone in his shoes

Would do the same

[odd thicket]

coz hes ||sinner|| thats why

[drowsy jasper]

||idk why flins is just preventing it||

Like

[queen prawn]

||well,he causes fear in NodKrai for decades ||

[drowsy jasper]

It's such a natural reason

And somehow he's the villain??

[drowsy jasper]

||wild hunt is caused by him||

[queen prawn]

||Rerir caused many tragic deaths,I feel bad for those helpless light keeper ghost||

[odd thicket]

no

it was by another figure

the ||mad monk||

[queen prawn]

||so Mad Monk used his corpses?||

[drowsy jasper]

Alright

So thst clears

His name

||So rerir js literally just trying to survive||

[queen prawn]

||he still control them so nah||

[drowsy jasper]

To find his pieces

?

[queen prawn]

||no,to adapt to kuuvaki||

[odd thicket]

no info if these two ever cross paths

[odd thicket]

for now

[queen prawn]

||and finding his piece is just sidequest,only the heart was important||

[odd thicket]

his title from dainsleif paints a different picture

[odd thicket]

he can control how || wild hunt acts across nod krai still, as part of his powers||

[queen prawn]

||they don't have to,Mad Monk is also from Khaenriah so he most likely know about the big 5 of Khaenriah||

[odd thicket]

and even then he can still get back to 100%

[drowsy jasper]

Yes he was using them to search his pieces

[odd thicket]

maybe

[drowsy jasper]

Like

I don't get why he's painted as evil

[odd thicket]

but he left a good while before them

[drowsy jasper]

For just

[odd thicket]

'like

[drowsy jasper]

Wanting to survive

[odd thicket]

a good 30 years at least

[odd thicket]

its a ||sinner||

[drowsy jasper]

Still
Doesn't mean they're a bad person

[odd thicket]

they still ||brought suffering to the whole planet ||

[odd thicket]

it does

[queen prawn]

He trying to survive by ripping light keeper spine out

[odd thicket]

pls understand and be kind

to him

it was just 2 light keepers

nothing more

honest mistake

[queen prawn]

[odd thicket]

[drowsy jasper]

Tbf
Light keepers are in his way

So it only makes sense he'd do that

[odd thicket]

yeah no

[queen prawn]

In his way for stopping his minions to kill innocent NodKraian

[drowsy jasper]

That's like saying columbina is bad bc she was in fatui

[odd thicket]

thats their job

[odd thicket]

she didnt do anything bad

[drowsy jasper]

Ecsctly he didn't either

[odd thicket]

but all || Sinners contributed to the suffering of the planet||

[drowsy jasper]

He's not trying to hunt people

[odd thicket]

his title implies he is

[drowsy jasper]

He's just regaining his power

[queen prawn]

Columbina being in the fatui just to ||supply power does not make her evil||,unlike others harbinger that actually do bad thing and control a squad

And Capi

[drowsy jasper]

Not exactly?
I mean the abyss sibling is likely to vlame

For khanreoaj

They abandoned thrm

And came to us

[odd thicket]

it was also Irmin's fault

or celestia's

|| Sinners || did it willingly

also

[drowsy jasper]

5 sinners didn't escape from lhanreiah

[queen prawn]

Khaenriah was doomed with or without the AS anyways... they are up against Shade whose little fragment of her power sent an entire place off Teyvat and Ronova who can basically reanimated corpse like Rerir

[odd thicket]

all of them except || Surtologi|| are immune from fate
they broke from it

[odd thicket]

neither did the sibling

[drowsy jasper]

They did

They ran to us

And escaped

[odd thicket]

they were manipulated by istaroth and asmmoday

[drowsy jasper]

Well

😭

They still ran from a dying nation

They could've decided to save us after khanrieah

But

They ran in the middle

That guilt

Is the main reason

[queen prawn]

I wouldn't call that immune to fate,just escaping the system and their choice determines their own fate now instead of default set up

[drowsy jasper]

Why they're trying to bring back khanreiah

[odd thicket]

the sibling kept dreaming of traveller all that time

[odd thicket]

so that is still true autonamy

[odd thicket]

to make up for their desertion and resolve theirt guilt

[queen prawn]

The reason Surtalogi isn't out of the system ,to me is because of his decision to go back and fight Skirk ,he took Vedr words serious

[odd thicket]

yes

i suppose he just wants to die

to rest easy

[drowsy jasper]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ePJe2IONNC0?si=eEHWjMkDlq3UpqQ-

@odd thicket @queen prawn

The theory is gaining more traction

Or lore

[odd thicket]

ITs not her

||pakkasuiko|| was a servant to the frostmoon scions

Belyi Tsar was not a servant to anyone

[drowsy jasper]

What are u even talking about

We are talking about

||Saareleinen, the 3rd descender, who was the Husband of the Tsaritsa||

||he was carved into 7 pieces , the gnoses. Tsaritsa is on the hunt for them bc that's the remains of her husband||

[odd thicket]

The same book

[odd thicket]

It isnt mentioned to be her in the book

[odd thicket]

Nop

[drowsy jasper]

Yes

Many theorizers have confirmed it

Hold on let me show you

[odd thicket]

Doesnt mean much

Bring out the source

[drowsy jasper]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VGx_9RXdx3Q?si=7vik54eAukVw3XPO

[odd thicket]

Kettletoro isnt a lore tuber

[queen prawn]

Yes

[odd thicket]

A lot of people have reading issue (even i do ) when it comes to lore

Have to double check in game descriptions to be sure

[lilac coral]

[worldly rain]

Abyss siblings says you cannot change the irminsul but you can create new branch using memories and superimpose it onto the existing leyline to create a new reality
In a way that's what they're doing with loom of fate that created new branch of khanerria using the memories
And now he trying to find the place where they can superimpose it into the leyline and create a new reality where khanerria exist again

So do you guys think that's what istaroth has been doing all this time?
Taking the current branch and superimosing it into the existing branch of irminsul
But across the time...
So take the event of sacred sakura being planted in present is now superimposed onto the past branch and now suddenly a new reality emerges where the sakura tree has always existed....

@odd thicket what do you think?

Might explain the whole siblings thing

[odd thicket]

This is in line with her description in the New Book

[worldly rain]

Yeah

And it would explain how abyss sibling arrived without leaving the spaceship too

Or not

[odd thicket]

Are you implying that the took the memory of the sibling and superimposed it to the past

So that the sibling was both inside the ship and out of it ?

[odd thicket]

Also in line of your theory of sibling being the corrective measure

[worldly rain]

Yes I think which creates another set of problems so maybe not

[worldly rain]

It's like how dieredyth reality was superimposed into the past
So maybe sibling reality after taking the key was also superimposed into their past back when they arrived in teyvat

[odd thicket]

Wasnt dieredyth a result of the loom working in Khaenriah

Her memory was one of many it picked up picked up

?

[worldly rain]

Yes and then that version of dieredyth's reality was superimposed onto the past version creating a new reality where she gave the key to sibling
Just like when sacred sakura was planted in the plains of euthymia that reality was superimposed onto the past which created new reality where it looked like sakura tree immediately grew but it had been growing for 500 years in the new reality

[odd thicket]

So traveller can potentially time travel back with creating a replicant of someone’s memory and syncing it with a past moment

[worldly rain]

I'm saying that just how loom of fate is going to insert a new branch into the irminsul to create new reality in the present....

Istaroth does the same but being the time herself and the author of teyvat she can do it across time...

And hence you get a whole new meaning to what both mav and ||aila|| said...
That past, present and future are all the same...

[odd thicket]

And Vedrfolnir has his own interpretation of this while waiting at the end of time

Another thing i just see someone point out was

They tried to leave without their space ship

[worldly rain]

Forgot we're on lore basement

[odd thicket]

Tas okay

Theres also Sal Vindagnyr

They tried to perform a ritual on irminsul

[worldly rain]

He too had similar blessing as shown with ||aila|| where he sees the past present and future at the same time

[odd thicket]

But the branch they had there died

[odd thicket]

||aila|| could see the past ??

[worldly rain]

Yes that's how she got to know the whole scam that was happening in the name of cult

[odd thicket]

That is sad

So she too were a ||visionary||

[worldly rain]

Yeah minus the abyss powers

Also while she could see things she couldn't influence anything just be a spectator
Unlike dain's brother who had abyss powers and could influence the fate like with albritch (or whatever his name was)

[odd thicket]

chlothar albrecht

[worldly rain]

Yeah that one

[odd thicket]

he cured caribert by giving or copying his story iirc

and he also spoke to traveller throghh the sibling into the future

[worldly rain]

Man I'm seeing the names of sheznaya people and I'm not ready at all when sheznaya hits
Literally can't say any properly

[odd thicket]

Dotekskvokeyvodkasky

[worldly rain]

[odd thicket]

its going to be pain

ful

just name everyone ivan and ivanka

[worldly rain]

Speaking of ivanka that's another witch currently in sheznaya

[odd thicket]

theres another ???

not just scarlet ?

[worldly rain]

Yes she's the mayor of sheznaya
Ivanka something something

Let me see in wiki her full name

Ok wrong name

I. Ivanovna N.

That's the correct one

And she's dead too so nvm

[worldly rain]

Scarlett is her successor

I forgot hex lore too can't blame me it was too long ago

[odd thicket]

me neither

thus far it has been irrelevant

next patch we have ||octavia talk of the true universe|| and thats it

[worldly rain]

Wonder if apart from Alice and nicole anyone else will be playable
Rhine maybe depending on if shades are playable or not
Octavia too maybe since she alive
Barbie might not cause she too old and sounds like madam ping to me

[odd thicket]

scarlet is possible

andersdottir too

[worldly rain]

Wasn't she an npc?

Scarlett I mean

I think she was

Yeah she was lol

[odd thicket]

i hope hoyo pulls out some npc's from their jail

they are too good to be let down thhere

[lost quail]

Bro I wish xilonen busted a move more often

She’d eat

[sly bison]

I love how the dialogue keeps reminding the player Nod Krai is part of Sneznhaya too

[lilac coral]

gotta love it when someone dressed like this asks what is wrong with you for not dressing the same

[odd thicket]

shes treating that place like its chernobyl

[lilac coral]

honestly fair, if she'd get a nosebleed from just removing her helmet for a few moments lol

[odd thicket]

this is a fun quest, shes so brainrotten i like her sm

[lilac coral]

i already like her, yeah

i appreciate the back up, i'll probably keep liking her through this

she's a nutjob but a fun nutjob

"then once you find the solution to our problems, just throw it on top of the floating magic god rocks!"

[lilac coral]

i love the event quest and how paimon keeps rubbing it in jahoda's face
"oh you care too much about aino to not help!"
"you're so good at looking after aino, jahoda!"
"you have such a big heart to help so much with aino's troubles!"

jahoda:

[drowsy jasper]

She has social anxiety
I understand and relate to her

[lilac coral]

oh no same

but it's just so funny how much paimon is rubbing it in her face

oh wait wrong girl

[drowsy jasper]

Paimon can be brutal sometimes

Lmao

[lilac coral]

yee

[drowsy jasper]

Like how she was surprised in the last lantern rite

When zhongli had some money

She realized that and said

"now THIS is a lantern rite to remember"

LMAO

I died

[lilac coral]

[lilac coral]

i just checked my bag for something and noticed these new stones and ????

why was the axle tip bloodstained?

and the "from that day on, the people of this land no longer worshipped the dead gods" line is nice

and the last line about futilely singing their long-forgotten names

they weren't erased from irminsul, right? it's just that they were so ancient that their names were lost to time?

[lilac coral]

i haven't finished the quest with netochka yet but this has to be a boss arena, right??

and if it's unused now, it has to be used in the future

like cmon

it's fucking HUGE

and like 99% empty

[lilac coral]

okay it was part of the quest

honestly, the rasknolikov guy is chill

"my job is to protect this place, take this fucking thing i don't want it anymore"

there's a chest on the roof btw

for anyone who would want it

it's a luxurious chest

[odd thicket]

it will make sense once you read the hymns of the far north book

[odd thicket]

yeah

[odd thicket]

https://youtu.be/gAm8xtQbk0I?feature=shared&t=842

@lost quail

for u

with timestamp

[lost quail]

Thank u

[shell heart]

Yo @odd thicket would u say Mav is stronger than xbalanque

[sly bison]

I’m stronger than both

[odd thicket]

She is

Her story quest is just that

[shell heart]

I mean xbalanque did say it himself but

The duel didn’t have a conclusive outcome

And i took it more as saying “am definitely the weakest archon”

[odd thicket]

he is

actually

no

in battle of wills mavuika is still supreme

[shell heart]

Why would u say that

Because of the entire travelling into the future thing?

[odd thicket]

She still beat xbalanque

In that

[odd thicket]

No

[coarse oxide]

how many irminsuls were there 😣🥐

[lilac coral]

Irminsul tree roots poking out of the ground in various locations? Or the irminsul that connects everything?

[reef axle]

Depends on how you define "tree"

Technically, all the trees we see are supposed to be linked via their roots, making them more like one singular organism

Real life example of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree)

[coarse oxide]

ohh!

[coarse oxide]

I was actually just looking at things on hoyowiki and found there were irminsuls in natlan and dragonspine

this is why I asked that

🤔

[reef axle]

From the loading screen:

It is said that the roots of all the Petrified Trees in the world are intertwined at the deepest, most hidden place in the earth, and that the pattern the root system makes defines the ley lines of the world.

Petrified trees being the smaller Irminsul trees/roots we see scattered around Teyvat that got killed off (generally by Celestia dropping a Nail on them)

There's 5 confirmed ones of those in-game atm

[coarse oxide]

ok

[shell heart]

1

Technically 1

But it has roots all over tevyat

And can sprout trees in different places

[odd thicket]

Only durin's blood is known to revive the trees

[modern plover]

i need to find out whether the lumine dialogue is the same

[modern plover]

i feel bad for hating the boss guy in SO now

[modern plover]

okay netochka is a kid, im taking this back

okay girl has attachment issue

okay paimon

i like it very much when Paimon snap into caretaker mode, its a very nice part of her character

she did the same with zhiqiong and jeht

[lilac coral]

confusion

i'm assuming it's a world quest but i don't have time before work to start another one lol

[odd thicket]

Wait what

What is the polar bear doing in arlington texas

[odd thicket]

I think its a puzzle

[lilac coral]

the samurai?

[odd thicket]

Ig so

This is the first i see him too

Either its a bug

[lilac coral]

no shot it's a bug

[odd thicket]

Yeah

Lemme fire up my laptop and see in a short while

[lilac coral]

okay

because i'm really curious but i gotta get ready in a few

the black shores, in that little inlet of water that separates the two parts of it

[odd thicket]

West of the nothing passage

[lilac coral]

idk what nothing passage you mean but sure

i was gliding down from the shrine of depths on the cliff when i noticed something big and red and inazuman on the ground lol

[odd thicket]

Its the final part of lempo isles you go through to reach the dock leading to paha isle

[lilac coral]

oh

[odd thicket]

It has an amazing world quest

[lilac coral]

havent done that yet

i've like

started maybe 5 world quests and finished only one

[sly bison]

Have you finished the archon quest

[lilac coral]

No, I haven't even started it actually

[lilac coral]

https://youtu.be/IVwWIc8oNQg?si=g8s51OAR4z9FJ6sA

I really like the slight horror/mystery aspect to his trailer

Spoopy

Also that last line is chilling

[odd thicket]

Has the spoiler decree been lifted

[lilac coral]

It was lifted in the lore basement a week after the update

So like a week or two ago or whatever

[odd thicket]

what

bruh

anyway

anyone got pitch for who created the Fae

and if they were servants of hyperborea

[worldly rain]

Frostnight scions are out of the equation
So yes fae spirits are likely fae people at this point

[odd thicket]

Hm, what had you change your mind on this ?

[worldly rain]

And I wouldn't say they were servant since they clearly ruled the sheznaya area
Not to mention their numbers were "countless" when they were created
Most of them must've just moved to sheznaya area before golden city got nuked

[worldly rain]

I already told you in spoiler channel guess you didn't read the message then
But here
||In the ancient tales, these beautiful and haughty creatures came from the hand of the first divine emissary. When paradise fell, they made a pact with the mistress of the Frost Moon, vowing to use the primal light bestowed by the Frost Moon to cleanse the mortal world's defilement until the patron of old returns once more. ||
Basically they are creation of ||first angel|| and not humans of golden city

The other thing is that fae at least seen by flins case seems to me like spirits who can shapeshift to resemble other being...

In flins case he's changed into humam form for the past 500 years or so

[odd thicket]

for the past 100 or so

the lighthouse battle was when he was woken up

and people havent caught on to his being a fae

[odd thicket]

patron of old ?

and the fae were servants to the hyperboreans afterall

so hetslop tsaritsa is very much real

[worldly rain]

Not really unless you wanna strech the timeline
Gnosis was created before the first archon took reign
Tsaritsa as told by venti only changed her personality after the event of cataclysm which was 500 years ago

[odd thicket]

maybe... rotwang's goals and actions fired a spark in her noggin

[worldly rain]

The last gnosis was given to venti some 2k years ago
So cryo archon should be even before this date
Unless you want to tell me tsaritsa was fine for 2k years before going apeshit crazy for 3rd descender yeah I don't think so

[odd thicket]

in flins sig there was a very deliberate usage of the word "delusions"

[odd thicket]

tsaritsa has to be fine for 6000 and more odd years

also, 'fine'. is stretching it

she could have been grieving her own way

[worldly rain]

[odd thicket]

also

[worldly rain]

Still doubt it but we'll see I guess

[odd thicket]

non zero chances for the seelie court to be pohjola ?

[odd thicket]

and the second descender was specifically involved in this

carving of the third desender

[worldly rain]

Yeah but something tells me it's different
Remember neuv story only says "the one who came after"
And if genshin story is anything to go by descender are not the only one who came to teyvat from outside
What if it's not descender but someone else?

[odd thicket]

yeah

Voyager is a suspect

Voyager, Nibelung, Octavia ?

[worldly rain]

Voyager would be 2nd no? Especially if her story is told via hero Ajax

[odd thicket]

idk

nibelung OR voyager can be second

i had a theory before finale of the deep archive dropped, when it was believed that this lover and angel married

it was that either this lover (voyager) or their offspring/ child was the third

afterall, rene speaks of the perfect human, narayana

he had to have gotten it from somewhere and the third descender was a convenient candidate

[worldly rain]

Or he was hoping for one

[odd thicket]

WHICH REMINDS ME

NARAYANA was meant to merge with the world wasnt he

same as the intended goals for the fae

[worldly rain]

Hmm although it didn't happen

[odd thicket]

yeah

Reed's mom chose her life over the project

in alchemy, silver comes before gold doesnt it ?

[worldly rain]

I don't know

[odd thicket]

yeah it is

so they really did stop at silver (Reed Miller)

Rhinedottir swapped the gold and silver tho

"Io, Io, Pan! That which lies beneath the great sea!"
The purpose of this line in the ritual scripture is to forsake the self and sink into the abyss, and in the abyss, to welcome rebirth as a holy infant.
The origin of this is a tragedy of unknown provenance that has been passed down by persons unknown to this day. Said play is called "Ajax," or "Aias." He was the second-strongest warrior in his alliance.

"Lies beneath the great sea" is, itself, an interesting phrase. It comes from ancient Sumeru texts, and should be read as "Narayana," which also means "primordial human."
This, too, is my goal, for not all that comes from beyond may be as one that "descends." That title belongs only to wills that can rival an entire world.
That is what I seek, the way to become just such a will, one that can protect the world, sustain the world, destroy the world, and create the world.

[odd thicket]

i think i understand now

Reed Miller was meant to be the reincarnation of Ajax ????

[worldly rain]

Rene wanted to become such being and that's why toward the end of the world quest we see him as hydro tulpa that's what he had become
It wasn't something that would change the fate or rival the will of heaven
Only after meeting traveler did he realised he had long gone the wrong direction that he wasn't going to be the savior but the traveler aka a descender
Also rene knowledge ended with the narwhal destroying teyvat which traveler changed btw so anything beyond is anyone's guess atp

[odd thicket]

Yeah, but he had to have taken inspiration for this from somewhere , no ?
Also,
Didnt he want
To become a descender solely for the save / sustain part of it ?

[worldly rain]

Well that's what his goal was anyway to save the world from impending doom
Of course it didn't happen the way he thought
Also he was a researcher at the end of the day so yes he had knowledge of past civilization that had fell

He just took the pieces and connected the dots

[odd thicket]

Do you think Ajax reincarnated could have been the intended goal for the scions ?

I dont think the voyager was involved in his murder

The scions worship both him and ajax

[worldly rain]

Not really
The goal was to create a perfect being that would merge with the world and break free from the rule of the heavens
Ajax on the other hand was a character based on legend of voyager and later the 3rd descender
Neither of them could do anything against fate established by heavens