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queen prawn
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Moon Sovereign also works but sovereign isn't limited to dragon

spark portal
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Even Sandrone mains themselves know she will lose to Traveler

odd thicket
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When you think about it

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Kukulkan is Dragon Yakub

lilac coral
queen prawn
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People probably look at her robot block the Aino cannon and think she is strong E_pepelol

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Both of them were Kuuvuki power,the same color, like a magnet(the inspiration for NodKrai ),if it is the same direction,it repels , similar to how you can disarm elite fatui weapons by using Kuuvüki power

lilac coral
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i never realized enjou was so old???

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he's thousands of years old when i figured he was another regular kheanriahn/abyss creature from 500 years ago and the calamity 😭

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oh nevermind

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4 lines of dialogue later he says that none of these memories are his catfist

sweet dune
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what i wanna know is why inazuman dress

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during enka event i legit thought it was to assimilate but he still has it on

lilac coral
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Maybe it's comfy and breezy

sweet dune
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breezy...

lost quail
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I’m trying to picture this

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What the fuck would you even do to get this gaze from her

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“I’m the friend of the archon yeah she said I can hire 50 go go dancers” or something

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LIKE IM TRTING TO

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LIKE

sly bison
lilac coral
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This is cool

lilac coral
sly bison
lilac coral
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That I can kind of get, since from the beginning we've always assumed snezhnaya would come right after natlan thanks to the travail video and the devs even stating that they wanted to slow down and focus more on story

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But "filler" isn't always a bad thing either

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It's helping to flesh things out

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But if it's on twitter, then it's probably just someone who needs to hush anyway lol

odd thicket
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We are getting spiral abyss lore for the first time since 2020

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lilac coral
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That thing looks fucking nasty

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Did someone shit in the pipe

queen prawn
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What is that thing

odd thicket
sly bison
# lilac coral That I can kind of get, since from the beginning we've always assumed snezhnaya ...

And it’s still silly to take it that way. The stigma around filler is that it’s typically just padding that adds little to meaningfully complement the main plot (esp when someone needs to play catchup).

Even though it wasn’t necessarily part of the initial plan, that’s the not the case at all with Nod Krai, even if we take into account that it’s a Snez region. A lot of these same folks would complain about Genshin adhering too much to its tropes and patterns, but the moment they say they’re gonna turn the wheel a bit differently is no different for them.

I could get it if folks were a bit sussy that they didn’t save Nod Krai for after mainland Snez before Khaenri’ah version, but atp it’s largely a matter of what exactly they’re gunning for in the story from NK to mainland Snez to Khaen that could put it into a different perspective.

lilac coral
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Oh of course, I'm not arguing that it's important and that it's not traditional filler

I just meant that it's, in essence, "filler" because it wasn't originally planned to go this way from the roadmap they had given us at the beginning

It'll definitely be full of important lore and story content, no doubt about it, I just meant it's filler in that sense kekw

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But I don't agree with the sentiment that it's traditional/common filler where it serves little to no purpose and is just there to add to a runtime that'd be too short to show otherwise/save time for later parts that might need more manpower

odd thicket
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Nod Krai is a “””filler””” patch because Sneznaya lore and main quests became too expansive to be fit in a one year schedule properly for entertainment

odd thicket
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I love the desolated vibe of inazuma

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so very at the edge map

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with scenic landscapes and horizons

lilac coral
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Yee lol

reef axle
# odd thicket Nod Krai is a “””filler””” patch because Sneznaya lore and main quests became to...

Honestly, by all but the most pedantic definitions of filler, Nod Krai isn't even filler lol
TVTropes's "filler" definition:

Filler episodes are entries in a generally continuous serial that are

  • Unrelated to the main plot
  • Don't significantly alter the relations between the characters
  • Generally serve only to take up space.
  1. It's literally advancing the main plot.
  2. It looks like we're going to get a ton of advancement in our relation with our sibling, the Fatui, and a ton of other groups.
  3. While it is giving them more time to work on Snezhnaya, that's not its only purpose, so even this doesn't apply.
sly bison
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We’re prolly not gonna see a glance of her until like
Luna VII I bet

lilac coral
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Yeah

odd thicket
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I agree with all of them except on the third

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Nod Krai’s own lore is befitting of a side area’s

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Sneznaya lore was anticipated to be incredibly massive and then we got the whole second descender and Fae subplot

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Nod Krai is taking on the dual role of appetiser and plot knot resolver

odd thicket
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new lore material dropped

spark portal
odd thicket
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I need to read arlecchino’s character stories again

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Nothing new was on this video

odd thicket
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Like a phantom, fleeting hope lingers, flickering in forests where moonlight never falls.
When will the light come at last — unwavering and true? We wait for her to pierce the frigid night, swift as an arrow's flight.

Chinese Voice-Over Video: https://youtu.be/mr2fPHDtv3k
Japanese Voice-Over Video: https://youtu.be/1ZFeqRm5kGc
Korean Voice-O...

▶ Play video
lilac coral
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God lauma is just so pretty

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But is it weird I think she looks cooler and prettier in her half-deer form?

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Vs just scantily clad busty woman with antlers

odd thicket
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here

lilac coral
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She really does, and I love it

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It's so unique compared to the other characters

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Having an actual deer centaur form

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It's wicked

odd thicket
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its not tied to skills or burst

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its her charged attack

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and stamina

lilac coral
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But still

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She has it

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And it is cool and amazing

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So I'll take it

odd thicket
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no i agree with you

odd thicket
keen stream
lilac coral
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???

paper dagger
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REMEMVEE WHO YOU USED TO BE, GOUD

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(Sorry I got bored and decided to scroll up to almost hald a decade ago and pinged your old messages) smug

modern plover
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why is there a quest abt getting high in the new natlan area💀

elfin zinc
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Hi lore basment i havent been here for almost 2 years

paper dagger
elfin zinc
lilac coral
modern plover
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no the flower thing and the girl trying to make alcohol from those toxic flower

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thats why traveller get high

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paimon too

lilac coral
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Ohh

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I thought you meant the quest where the traveller starts talking to mushrooms and then eventually eats one and exists on a higher plane for a certain period of time chasing after a mushroom that was using their brains to get what it wanted

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With the whole village that worshipped this magic, endless mushroom

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lost quail
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what WHAT

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THATS

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WHAT

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SHE LETS THEM GO REGARDLESS OF IF THEY WIN OR LOSE BECAUSE ALL SHE ASK FOR IS WILL AND STRENGTH. you can leave the HOTH if you want to, and she’ll let you go, you just gotta go through a dual or test of fucking courage because she believes everyone should fight for what they want whether figuratively or literally.

She wasn’t gonna kill that girl either. She even said so. Not only that but she’s never killed a child at all. All the people who leave are alive and well. They just proved they’re willing to fight for themselves. I know this was a year ago but like bro

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I can’t help but defend as an Arle lore reader

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Her quest was the one quest I didn’t skip

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lost quail
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What

odd thicket
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people slept through the quest and it shows

sweet dune
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i took it as her testing if they will be alright?

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it's not a win and freedom lose and die situation it's literally just a test to prove yourselves and your dedication, that you're gonna be alright and won't regret it because it's not a decision you can simply reverse?

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like "just because the traveller impressed her" but she had her blood memory wipe thing prepared ages ago

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before the traveller even got involved

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they weren't even the first to leave

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peruere is literally the opposite of crucabena - she took the concept and made it better, the only way a child raised in bloodshed knew how - by raising the children into being strong and independent. All of them do their own thing, and they have a father who cares, even if she's distant, instead of a mother that is warm but sends them to their deaths.

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the only children she has killed are the ones under crucabena, never her own !!!!!

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Also wtf do they mean they only take in children when they're young. It's an orphanage. Do they not understand the concept of an orphanage.

lilac coral
odd thicket
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i was watching the ongoing alien earth series
in that a cyborg asks a hybrid (human brain copied onto ai)

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"when is a machine not a machine ? "

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we have characters like inefffa, ajaw, kathryne, sandrone, who are all machines turned ... personalities/ human ?

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this harkened back to the obsession that Rene had with creating a perfect 'human' or being

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to challenge the will of the world

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and ended up with the failed "Master"

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could the second descender be a creaation of the voyager instead ?

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the fae are creations of the angels and human smiths

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and posed a threat to the HP

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could it be that a machine could challenge the will of the world, surpassing the meagre will that others like ineffa and ajaw have ?

elfin zinc
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I am in such a weird state with genshin lore nowdays where i know core stuff from playing it for so long but then some person talk about grongo the 5th cousin of drongus like it's someone i should know and my brain stops.

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😔 going to lock in, in Nod-krai

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elfin zinc
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doesn't help that the actually good lore stuff is hidden in non-voiced world quests and my eyes glaze over when there is no voice, I can't handle this dude i DONT know how to read

odd thicket
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it is still entertaining in its own right though

elfin zinc
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Genshin's writing is in this spot where it's really hard for me to pay attention unless it's also voiced, might be a side-effect from playing it for so long. I'll try to actually lock in and read during nod-krai though

odd thicket
elfin zinc
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yeah, I was about to ask has anyone made like a "lore round up" for the natlan/5.x patches? Natlan has especially hard for me to follow

lost quail
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this is why I have to continue my advocacy for Arlecchino

odd thicket
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my name for now, dawit, aashikai (even if shes kinda scummy), roozevelt, shadoo all are good

lost quail
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Because these people prove someone has to.

odd thicket
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if you play the quests and ask questions it would be better i feel

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natlan dropped a lot more lore than sumeru

elfin zinc
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hmm well i'll try to pay more attention during nod-krai and ask if I am confused about anything during it

odd thicket
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i can give a short point wise summary but i feel it wouldnt be enough

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theres just too many

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like
angels became seelies
moons are nibelung's daughters

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khaenriah was destroyed by ronova

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asmoday is missing

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the sinners mirror the shades

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the voyager is likely the second who came

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songs can be used to store souls and histories

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the 7 elements were modified to function similar to phlogiston

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nibelung only fought celestia once

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xiuhcoatl was the dragon who brought light into teyvat

elfin zinc
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yeah, some of these i understand, some of these are completely alien to me

odd thicket
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phlogiston can function as a computer

elfin zinc
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for example angels, i don't remember them in lore, I thought seelies were their own race that just devolved, were they called angels before?

odd thicket
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Goddess of Flowers, whose outfit is likened to be similar to Nilou, was an Angel

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Lord of the Night too is an angel

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Golden Eyed Celadon mare from the liyue books as well

onyx fossil
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Ive been summoned

elfin zinc
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I see GigiNodders

odd thicket
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they were exiled from celesita for siding with the second descender and giving humanity the means to defy HP's rules

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if you recall, Tsurimi and Sal Vindagnyr/ Dragonspine were their followers

elfin zinc
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followers of second descender?

odd thicket
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they lead a rebellion vs the Heavens/ Celestia

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that failed

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and the first angel and her lover (allegedly the descender) were punished

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and the seelie curse was then issued

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along with a forced exile from the heavens

elfin zinc
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I remember the lover stuff from all the way in 1.x times, super funny how complicated it got

odd thicket
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this happened shortly before nibelung arrived

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elfin zinc
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okay doing paralogism quest rn

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and it's super fucking funny how casually albedo drops the "devoured the ruler of life" lore 😭

elfin zinc
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did people know this before this quest? I learnt it during that one trailer

odd thicket
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it was out of nowhere too

elfin zinc
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Lmfao

odd thicket
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the trailer drops after the 5.7 archon quest

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2 weeks, to be exact

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i cant tell anymore coz it would spoil the dain quest

elfin zinc
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yeah haven't done that yet

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will do it tomorrow

sweet dune
odd thicket
odd thicket
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the horns nilou wears

sweet dune
odd thicket
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are meant to be seelie hornws

sweet dune
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waiiiitttt

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seelie's have horns?

odd thicket
odd thicket
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wait

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this is a seelie

sweet dune
sweet dune
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like a demon

odd thicket
sweet dune
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which trailer are you talking about

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if not the shades trailer

odd thicket
odd thicket
sweet dune
odd thicket
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Paralogism - > Dain Quest with Asmoday and Istaroth - > Shades trailer

elfin zinc
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can someone recap to me what exactly happened to durin? Did we basically use the evil™ durins essance to create a body for good™ durin (mini durin)?

sweet dune
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ik the timeline

sweet dune
odd thicket
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mini durin was created by a hexenzirkel witch called Andersdottir

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he was a fanfic of what if durin had a happy ending

sweet dune
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also blessing from rhinedottir i think

odd thicket
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in teyvat, one important thing you need to remember is that

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Stories can create people

elfin zinc
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yeah i somewhat remember that part from the summer event

sweet dune
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which was dubbed as blessing from hexen

odd thicket
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alchemy works similarly too

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you mix two items with oppossing traits

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to produce something stable and perfect

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the anger and sorrow of old durin was mixed with the youth and hope of new durin

sweet dune
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my babie looked sad and troubled in the teaser

odd thicket
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to get the twink we have rn

sweet dune
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i cannot wait to have him in my account

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he's gonna be the first character i make frienship set

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for

elfin zinc
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So new durin is somewhat of a mix of both durins?

odd thicket
sweet dune
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damn the other humans are there too?

odd thicket
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new durin works like this but imagine 12 more people

sweet dune
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THAT's why babie's so troubled

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i think that durin absorbed their essense tho

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elfin zinc
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So old durin is finally gone from dragonspine?

sweet dune
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so it should end up being just mini durin and the og durin

odd thicket
sweet dune
elfin zinc
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I think my quest log would cause an seizure in some people here (day 1 player btw)

odd thicket
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its a peak quest

elfin zinc
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I am going to basically finish as much as I can before nod krai drops

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how many days left?

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5?

odd thicket
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4

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you want to complete the ineffa quest asap

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anyway

elfin zinc
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how long is it? around normal quest time?

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2 or so hours?

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I am also, very behind on the sumeru desert

odd thicket
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at most 2 hours

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elfin zinc
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yeah, i'll finish it tomorrow

odd thicket
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sumeru - > fontaine - > natlan

sweet dune
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at least in my alt

elfin zinc
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I have a lot of the Natlan stuff finished but like i said, I couldn't really pay full attention to it

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I haven't done anything added after/during the volcano

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but stuff before it

elfin zinc
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Paralogism was fun but the silence annoys me so much

odd thicket
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i played it in silence

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i recall some portions of paralogism being voiced

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sorry,. the dain quest

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but the man himself wasnt voiced

elfin zinc
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dang

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ah well

sweet dune
sweet dune
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i don't remember who else wasn't

elfin zinc
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funny enough, the cutscene is not voiced still, but quest venti is

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basically every mondstadt chars in paralogism isn't voiced 😔

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like eula was voiced, i don't remember who else

sweet dune
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the music gadget quest venti isn't voiced either

lilac coral
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Even the MC is voiced

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I was jumpscared when lumine actually said something

elfin zinc
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Seeing mc get lines in paralogism and seeing it unvoiced was really sad

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if there is more i am happy

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I hope we get lot more voiced mc in nod krai 🙏

lilac coral
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Yeee

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It should be, at least

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They'll be hiring people who will voice, a LOT of the voice actors from before are coming back like the mc, but some are up in the air as well like dain so we will have to see for them

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But overall the majority should start being voiced again if not voiced right off the bat from being hired in the last year

delicate parcel
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columbina rising as the new moon might be also seen as a declaration of war against the heavenly principles

lost quail
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Ppl who say Arle doesnt deserve her aura like

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Why?

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Why

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“She didn’t do anything” look at her ENTIRE character and lore.

delicate parcel
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I def think shit will rlly go down by the time we head to the main snezhnaya nation itself

lilac coral
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Yeee

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Honestly it already slowly has considering some of the shit we experienced in natlan kekw

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Like the fucking sky being torn asunder and revealing the actual space behind it + a shattered moon where the abyss' avatar used to be

reef axle
lilac coral
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Kheanri'ah still happens after it though E_ScaraChaos

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What if the nod krai was the snezhnayas we made along the way

delicate parcel
lilac coral
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Yeee

delicate parcel
lilac coral
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it did

delicate parcel
lilac coral
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Things have been slowly ramping up for years

delicate parcel
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i def think the shades might appear in nod krai

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maybe as a mention

lilac coral
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We went from "oh no! The city of wine might be destroyed by their own guardian!" To "holy fucking shit celestia is still dormant after having one of their important pawns destroyed and part of their power going back to their mortal foe, the world slowly falling to corruption, one of their major players missing, something fishy is going on with the time dilation of the world, the firmament has been officially breached and shown to possibly thousands, a universe ending machine being activated, etc"

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Like, gone are the days of the region's issues being exclusively an issue for them- we've been going bigger and bigger and now we've finally been introduced to the idea that there's a new moon deity after the other moons have either died or disappeared and the shades who stopped it are now coming back into play in one way or another

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We've been getting closer to cracking the firmament and bringing truth to the world for better or for worse

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And the abyss order (and the abyss in general) finally making major moves in the game for us to see what's up with them and how they will stir everything up or if that was just another point in "fate"

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Among many, many other things 😭

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And if nod krai is expected to fill in some of the previous gaps left in old quests and worldbuilding, then it's only going to get bigger

delicate parcel
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shits going to hit the fan

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scratch that, it already did since Fontaine

odd thicket
delicate parcel
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i think we need more than that

odd thicket
reef axle
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That birthday tho...

lilac coral
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Jake-a-roony finally shares a birthday with a character, mayhaps? A_HuLurk

reef axle
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They asked one thing of you and you forgot

elfin zinc
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Welp, time to start "A Space and Time for You"

reef axle
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Waiting til 6.0 next week in hopes that everything is voiced by then (still in Paralogism here lol)

elfin zinc
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paralogism was painful to go through last night due to lack of voice acting 😔

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I heard this quest is like 90% voiced though

odd thicket
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damn the leaks dropping are juicy

elfin zinc
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are they? I haven't seen anything that interesting in the subreddit

odd thicket
elfin zinc
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did we ever get an explaination on why Nahida's normal attack and charge attack animations straight up reference real life computers? Or was it just a visual thing

odd thicket
river valve
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RERIR MODEL

shadow thicket
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Doesn't look playable

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No character ever be playable with face fully covered even kuki take her mask off

elfin zinc
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weekly boss maybe

elfin zinc
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I didn't even hate natlan main AQ as much as a lot of people did but this and the last quest just clearly hit different

sweet dune
odd thicket
elfin zinc
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something about the writing in these post natlan AQ were more engaging not sure why

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welp, 1 more left until i am caught up to AQ

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will either play it later tonight or tomorrow

odd thicket
modern plover
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im doing chasca story quest. why its always fontainian trying to do something abt Natlan cultureC_HuPepega

elfin zinc
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Why is it always an fontainian when we need a generic evil npc for a quest

odd thicket
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its always a fontainian

modern plover
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not all fontainian but always a fontainian

elfin zinc
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tbf through process of elimination Fontaine and Sumeru are like the two nations where you can get villians from for these generic quests

modern plover
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sumerian? not rlly

modern plover
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sneznaya evil npc are like early genshin days

elfin zinc
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yeah but Shneznhaya has fatui baggage, so they usually just end up relating to that

modern plover
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now it all change to fontainian

elfin zinc
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you can only use fatui so much

modern plover
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sumerian i think they are very nice

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probably cuz i glaze sumeru so much

elfin zinc
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Mondstadt is pretty small and doesn't really have any non-mondstadt drama
Liyue also usually doesn't appear too much in other countries (Also can't have chinese evil people too much in the chinese game MicWhistle )
Inazuma is an ocean away
Sumeru works, but there is really not much variety you can go for outside of like, eremites or "the 600th evil akademia guy"
Natlan people does not travel alot
Shneznhaya has fatui baggage

so Fontaine is kind of

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the best option

modern plover
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fontain is alwawys merchant or an evil inventor tho

elfin zinc
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fair

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we should create a bridge between inazuma and the mainland, let's get some of those evil fucked up inazuma npc villians around mainland

modern plover
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true

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oh yeah

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if you travel to other nation now, you will see natlan NPC post AQ

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that includes inazuma

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got jumpscared by one from muluani's tribe smh

elfin zinc
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The japanese brazillian canon event will happen in tevyat soon

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well the opposite in this case

odd thicket
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Brazillian Miku

topaz anvil
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is that ||rerir||

odd thicket
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Pls delet

modern plover
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Traveller using the geo E ability to stick the entire air workshop from falling apart then calling it DIY in the quest is comically hilarious LMAO

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Oh main, I’m so glad I main you A_WheezeTao

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Based asf traveller

sly bison
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It’s nice they use various types of presentation in non cinematic scenes rather than just 🧍‍♂️ 🧍‍♀️ and using black screens

modern plover
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Definitely learned something from zzz comic panels cuz Natlan quest has em’

sly bison
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Even before Natlan tbh

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The signs got more noticeable since Sumeru id say

And only gradually improved since

Idr 1.x or 2.x tho A_HuKek

lilac coral
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I knew it was this month though

reef axle
lilac coral
reef axle
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||Do you remember? The 21st night of September...||

lilac coral
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JSBAKCHSHC

reef axle
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Her birthday's the funny September song day KEK

reef axle
lilac coral
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I honestly never even realized the September song had a date in it

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Albeit the version I have in my hand nowadays is the butchered meme one

lilac coral
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Guess I didn't know

lilac coral
lost quail
sly bison
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Not that you should ever use Childe of all people as an accurate judge of character, but I kinda wonder what exactly unsettled him about her

sly bison
lilac coral
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No???

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Dm

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Now

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I wanna see puppet lady

odd thicket
odd thicket
sly bison
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Heads up KC

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Be very careful going there

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Cuz there’s a spoiler render of Colombina that’s out

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And I regret seeing it 😭

sly bison
odd thicket
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Oh

lilac coral
modern plover
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the natlan story telling gimmick is getting out of hand

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now we are playing pokemon turn-based RPG LMAO

modern plover
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she falls into the cute mature archetype that i like

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same with columbina

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okay paimon

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so true traveller. so true

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man i could do this forever. mhy should do this more. its funny to see turn-based rpg in your open world game A_WheezeTao

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okay man

odd thicket
lilac coral
modern plover
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maybeC_TaoCreepySmile

modern plover
sly bison
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😭

modern plover
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traveller is just a very impatient person

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the quest i posted just now show

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bro was itching to beat ppl up and its hillarious

modern plover
sly bison
lilac coral
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Yeah PepeHands

modern plover
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why tho

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i was more focused on the luxurious chest next to the child

sly bison
modern plover
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oh

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okay that makes me very sad

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that island is literally a resort island

odd thicket
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I turn my brain off for most of the exploration quests

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I remember the uncommon ones tho

odd thicket
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Did you complete the bennett and other world quests there

modern plover
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i done the benny quest. that is wholesome but im sad asf

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i havent do any other quest but the art plagirism one

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that gives your purple asha colour

lilac coral
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There's also the world quest with a mascot that leads you to mare jivari

odd thicket
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Another corner of the mare jivari

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Or the same corner at a different time

modern plover
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idk i saw enjou on twitter

lilac coral
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I still can't believe that entire quest hinged on the fact that the mascot was acting funny

modern plover
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enjou making a come back

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but idk whats the quest

lilac coral
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If he acted normal it never would've happened LOL

modern plover
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im assuming that one is that

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?

lilac coral
#

You eventually end up in the mare jivari

modern plover
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ooh

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the one with the baku something boss right?

lilac coral
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Yee

modern plover
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alright i will do it after i clear the volcano region quest

lilac coral
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You revisit the part of it you were lost in with Bennett

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Enjoy

odd thicket
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You can find hum later

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Him

lilac coral
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Yeah I know lol

odd thicket
lilac coral
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He was safe but drank like 50 bottles of aphimead and was out of his noggin

odd thicket
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Its beside a waterfall as well

lilac coral
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But what I was saying was

odd thicket
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Yeah

lilac coral
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The mascot, the costume, was acting funny

odd thicket
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Enjou acting weird in that mascot

lilac coral
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If he had just acted slightly normal then we wouldn't have intervened lol

odd thicket
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And the iconic citlali dialogue

odd thicket
modern plover
#

speaking of which, one of the only fontainian that is not evil C_HuPepeSmile

lilac coral
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And find his own home

modern plover
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oh that guy with his films

odd thicket
#

Hes forgotten khaenriah like everyone else at the Order

modern plover
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bro managed to get traveller drunk with him for the first time in Teyvat

lilac coral
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Yeah

modern plover
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i still think abt herC_HuPepega

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if there is a continuation to enjou and Jeht, there will be one for zhiqiong, right?

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i mean shes not dead, just missing

odd thicket
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Shes allegedly gone into the abyssal corridor

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I dont think shes dead

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We might find her soon enough

modern plover
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yeah probably another 2 more yearsCopium

odd thicket
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Nah

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This year or the next

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The frostmoon scions already seem to have a spiral of their own

modern plover
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yea so like 2 more years if we got unlucky

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or never

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i already wait for her to come back for 3 years anyway

odd thicket
lilac coral
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So who knows..

modern plover
#

the content that i subscribe to makes me wait for 3+ years and thats the problemA_GaspTao

sweet dune
odd thicket
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Where the abyss is

sweet dune
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Huhuhuh

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I need lore recap damn i forgot

modern plover
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wait now that i think abt it. isnt that the place where the interlude chasm AQ happen?

lilac coral
#

Yes

modern plover
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we almost got stuck there somehow

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right

lilac coral
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Where time and space is a chaotic mess

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And the MC was able to have a glimpse at the abyss

modern plover
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creepy ahh place

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alright just a bit of clarification for my own sake tho

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the abyss order is an organisation of old khaerian wanting to rebuild their homeland

modern plover
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which is different from the abyss itself, but still somehow got the same name

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why

lilac coral
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Because the creatures that are part of it live in the abyss

modern plover
#

huh ic
then the nightkingdom is a whole ass different space

modern plover
#

that is exist simultanously with teyvat and the abyss

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?

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the night kingdom is where the soul goes. so only natlan so goes there or all the soul goes there

lilac coral
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The Abyss Order is a mysterious, powerful legion of monsters from the Abyss who are the enemies of both humanity and surface civilization, and thrive in many corners of Teyvat.

modern plover
#

?

lilac coral
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But they had to be rebuilt

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New leylines cannot be created

modern plover
#

night kingdom is a natlan exclusive thing right?

lilac coral
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The night kingdom uses the previously destroyed layout of natlan's leylines for itself- something found everywhere in teyvat

lilac coral
modern plover
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so natlan leyline is destroyed by the abyss, so someone rebuild a new blueprint, aka the night kingdom

lilac coral
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Think of it like an amv
It still uses all the bits and pieces of the content it's based on, but is using different components at different times and thus its own thing

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Yeah

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Like uhh

modern plover
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so that someone who rebuild the night kingdom is master of something something together with xbalanque?

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sorry sorry the whole natlan thing got me real confused, especailly bennet's situation

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like ik he got disconnected from the natlan leyline, thats why hes unlucky, but how does that even work

modern plover
lilac coral
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Teyvat has leylines that span across its entirety, then a section of it (natlan) was destroyed, and because leylines are so intrinsically important to the world, natlan needed to have it fixed

New leylines can't be created, so they had to sort of bridge the gaps of the parts that still existed, becoming the night kingdom

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It's an entirely new thing but using the blueprints of what once was there, but serves the exact same function as the leylines

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And because it was the Lord of Night and (I think?) Xbalanque that created the night kingdom to help fix their problem, they named it that

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Probably because, as the ruler of the night kingdom, her nickname/title was "Lord of the Night"

modern plover
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oh her name is lord of the night. okay

lilac coral
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Yeah

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The... Not Mayan name kekw

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That I am not going to even attempt to spell

modern plover
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no thx i already got mixed up between master of the night something something tribe with her

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so how exactly does benny's situation even work in that sense

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how do you define getting disconnected from the leyline

lilac coral
lilac coral
odd thicket
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the NK was built using the burnt leaves of irminsul

modern plover
modern plover
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rlly?

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for example?

lilac coral
#

There was that whole thing with consequences and memory problems and such if people of natlan left natlan because they would no longer be under the blessing of the wayobs iirc

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Aside from it being taboo like they didn't want to fight for their country

modern plover
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im so confused rn

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so the tied to the leyline thing is only natlan exclusive

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if liyuean leaving liyue then its not going to be a problem?

lilac coral
#

Here, from the wiki:

Prior to the purification of the Night Kingdom, the people of Natlan generally chose to never leave their nation. As explained by Kachina, this was due to the Wayob protecting the people from the constant Abyssal influence in Natlan. For anyone who left Natlan's borders, the Wayob's protection would weaken, and the person would suffer the consequences of long-term exposure to Abyssal energy. In special circumstances, one could go through an application process that involved asking their tribal Chief to directly seek permission from their tribe's Wayob, but the chances were still slim.[20] Now that the Night Kingdom has been purified, the Natlanese are able to travel out of the nation without suffering any consequences, though they still need their Chief's permission to do so.

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Sorry idk why it copied the top part

modern plover
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ic

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but benny is still unlucky now that he choose to come back to mondstadt?

lilac coral
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He shouldn't be

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Since the corruption was removed

odd thicket
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he is unlucky coz his constellation fell to the abyss

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in the mare jivariu

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jivari

lilac coral
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It's why he suddenly started just having a normal life recently

modern plover
#

what

odd thicket
lilac coral
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Throughout the entirety of the island quest he had normal amounts of luck

odd thicket
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in the fiery version of the corner of the mare jivari

lilac coral
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Until the mare jivari part

odd thicket
modern plover
lilac coral
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He wasn't unlucky really at all

odd thicket
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so the purification of the leylines DID purify his constellation too

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its just the last part was stck in an echo of the mare jivari

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?

lilac coral
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His constellation being in the mare jivari I knew about, but was it said that that is why he's unlucky?

modern plover
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wait his constellation is in mare javari

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?

lilac coral
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Yes 😭

modern plover
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okay what exactly is mare javari

lilac coral
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Vino did you finish the Benny quest

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And see his parents

modern plover
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i did

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the more i read

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the more im confused

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thats why im asking it here

lilac coral
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Do you not remember being in a fiery hellscape

modern plover
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yeah

odd thicket
lilac coral
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His constellation was up in the sky

modern plover
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like define timeline

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then his whole easter egg at the end

odd thicket
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you need to understand that

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teyvat is a theatre

modern plover
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i dont undersstand i single thing despite rereading it three times

odd thicket
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every land and person is so because they each have a story

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that defines them

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when venti blew mare jivari off of teyvat, he separated its "moments" and story from the rest of the planet

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because each moment of mare jivari was corrupted no matter what istaroth tried

modern plover
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so its like he tear the entire chapter of mare javari within the script off and discard it in the trash bin

modern plover
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cuz the mare javari page is splotted with ink spilled or something

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okay

odd thicket
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think of it as a piece of rotting paper

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no matter what istaroth tried

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it kept progressing

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because of that

modern plover
#

icic

odd thicket
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it is a "Windless" land

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another lore thing you need to understand

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things such as

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songs and stories in teyvat

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are very powerfulk

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they can host

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histories of whole peoples, souls, whole personalities, etc

modern plover
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uh huh

odd thicket
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this is what sibling uses to bring back khaenriah

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mare jivari being described as "windless" is very deliberate

modern plover
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how?

odd thicket
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because the land has no more story

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its inhabitants all perished

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and sacrified to stop the bakunawa

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did you finish the mare jivari quest yet

modern plover
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no

odd thicket
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go do it

modern plover
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i will do it after the volcano thing

odd thicket
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oh

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volcano also importnat

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important dragon and celestia lore

lilac coral
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It's all important tbf

modern plover
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hmm icic

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should i do the little one quest first in old natlan or volcano tho

lilac coral
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Like 90% of the natlan world quests all aid in building the world's lore kekw

modern plover
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which one come first?

odd thicket
modern plover
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alright then i go old natlan first

odd thicket
#

och kan natlan is really important too

modern plover
odd thicket
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and it was done so well

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it wasnt artificial

modern plover
#

liyue, sumeru, fontaine and inazuma world quests doesnt have that much world lore content but more concentrated into their history instead

odd thicket
modern plover
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then natlan is literally everything abt teyvat

odd thicket
modern plover
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yeah, gotta absorb them lore before nodkrai arriveC_TaoHehe

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or else i think my brain will stop

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alright back to benny, so how does his whole constellation being in mare javari even happen tho

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his parents ventured into mare javari at one point then try to protect him from getting killed right?

odd thicket
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it seems they didnt do it willingly

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they wanted a weekend out in tenochzitoc

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accidentally got transported to the mare jivari

modern plover
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then when they save him, it kinda defies his fate?

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it goes off script?

odd thicket
#

and besides

modern plover
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so its not going off script

odd thicket
#

yeah

modern plover
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then whats with the abyss saying its off scriptC_TaoHehe

odd thicket
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fate in teyvat is very biased towards being the god;s interpretation

odd thicket
modern plover
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and i fell for it

odd thicket
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or try your hand at bargaining for it

modern plover
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then what abt his constellation being in mare javari tho

odd thicket
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the abyss holding a grudge and demanding he too submit

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prolly coz bennett's story is strong

lilac coral
modern plover
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so it grab his constellation and put it in mare javari?

lilac coral
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You explore it and learn as you go, it wasn't spoonfed but you got to physically see or experience it

odd thicket
modern plover
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man i seriously giving up trying to understand thisA_GaspTao

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is there a video explaining benny's situation, i will be grateful

odd thicket
#

Loretubers seem to have given up for 5.8 lore

odd thicket
#

can anyone get me the visuals on mona charged attack ?

lilac coral
#

I didn't realize this quest for chasca would be at the same location as the after-quest chat with ineffa lol

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She jumpscared me when the dialogue started

worldly rain
# modern plover then whats with the abyss saying its off script<:C_TaoHehe:856840838046547988>

500 years ago Bennett was supposed to die but his parent together with uncle/aunt gave up their life and got helped by Lord of the nights to take away Bennett from the scene

When Bennett supposed return to mare jivari happened 500 years later he was supposed to die again and that's what fate had it for him but because traveler exist and them being a descender his fate was changed and he got saved

Think of it like how the whole Narzissenkreuz situation turned out where fate was changed when traveler arrived into the scene altering the end

worldly rain
modern plover
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He was born 500 YEARS AGO????

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Oh so it did go off script. Not once but twice

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Then how the heck is he still alive after 500 yrs

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What in the time travelling is this

worldly rain
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Mare jivari experiences temporal disruption because of bakunawa
So you have mare jivari that appeared 1000 years ago back when wanderer troupe went into it
Bennett case is similar he was born 500 years ago but when he got out was 500 in the future basically present Mondstad..

full karma
#

I feel like they had a lot more potential adding in more details to the event

lilac coral
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Like pinching the timeline by 500 years so the present meets the past and Bennett of the past gets saved by an adventurer of the present and brought into a new timeline

odd thicket
#

theres no one there to explain bennett lore

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odd

modern plover
#

time to scroll reddit or just join a bennett main server, demand their explanation, then leave

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the way that everyone's explanation is contradicting with each other

worldly rain
odd thicket
#

So the quest where traveller and paimon blow a blunt has some really crucial moon lore in it

sweet dune
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the quest where what

modern plover
odd thicket
modern plover
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like benny is supposed to die but he did not

odd thicket
#

Can anyone summarise this for me

modern plover
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or the adventure's team is from a long time ago. but then venti to save bennett, blow mare javari off the timeline

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but mare javari is blown off cuz abyss invasion 500 yrs ago

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then why is bennet still there

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ik that cuz hes disconnected from natlan leyline, hes unlucky. but now the leyline is fixed, why leaving natlan still makes him unlucky

odd thicket
# sweet dune the quest where what

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modern plover
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why other nation when leaving their own , they got no effect despite being disconnected from leyline

odd thicket
modern plover
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like there r so many information, but none of them makes sense together. thats why im confused

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i also dont understand at what part that is interesting abt the easter egg with venti at the end of the quest is talking abt

odd thicket
modern plover
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no i havent

odd thicket
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Its easier to explain if you did the whole thing and read the notes you find in that quest

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Ill admit that even loretubers are stumped on bennett’s quest

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And are all avoiding it

modern plover
odd thicket
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I think i can make some explanation if i bother to read info on constellations

odd thicket
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Currently the one we imagine who fits the bill is Nicole

modern plover
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so basically, even venti cant put bennett's situation into words

odd thicket
modern plover
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so he said, other ppl can explain it

odd thicket
modern plover
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so why is it an easter egg

odd thicket
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It was about mare Jivari’s disappearance 30 years ago

modern plover
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so mare javari didnt disappear 500 years ago?

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what

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?

odd thicket
modern plover
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alright i will go do it then come back here later

odd thicket
#

Yeah

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If you play through it once i feel some doubts can be cleared easily

modern plover
#

bro is still typing after 20 mins

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im grateful for your contributionA_HuPray

worldly rain
# modern plover like benny is supposed to die but he did not

Constellation are like a framework for the fate every person within the fate system has one

Bennett's constellation had a written fate of him dying that day (500 years ago) but he didn't because his parents gave up their life to summon Lord of the nights who got Bennett out of the mare jivari

But why did his constellation got stuck there? Because that day when Bennett got out of mare jivari was also the day when venti struck mare jivari out of the timeline which led to his constellation getting stuck in mare jivari

Now Mare jivari is also suffering from temporal disruption due to the presence of bakunawa which means it's appearing all over the timeline like it appeared 1k years ago...this is how wanderer's trupe from 1k years ago ventured into mare jivari

Similarly when Bennett got saved by Lord of the night and returned to main timeline(remember mare was cut off from main timeline by venti) it was during the present time and not 500 years ago

Now at present time Bennett returns to mare jivari and this time traveler is with him remember traveler is a descender which means they can change the course of fate by their influence which is exactly what happened Bennett got saved again when venti together with mavuika brought Bennett back with them

As for his bad luck it depends on how you see it I think Bennett being fated to die was not only saved twice but even when his fate keeps trying to kill him he still survives everyday...
In a way he's not unlucky child but actually a lucky one

odd thicket
#

Lord of the Night wont be able to fight fate though

modern plover
#

alright

#

that does clear off some misunderstanding

odd thicket
#

She in fact has worked to ensure it happens

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I think his fate to die was abyssal meddling

modern plover
#

so benny's cons being stuck in a different timeline while benny himself is in the main timeline?

worldly rain
#

Yes

modern plover
#

so what is the effect of this, or there is none?

worldly rain
#

Constellation are a reflection of person fate in the false sky

odd thicket
#

And she ensured he lived in the body of his brother

worldly rain
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So if you remove that part from the timeline the constellation also goes alongside it at least that's what happened with Bennett

modern plover
#

huh?

odd thicket
odd thicket
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And when mare jivari was sealed off, it too disappeared

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Constellation was corrupted by the black tide

modern plover
#

so does that have an effect on benny's written fate?

odd thicket
#

So yes

worldly rain
#

"He can see, in the skies of destiny, how many stars contend with one another, creating a complicated, fragile world "

This is from one of neuv character story
Basically the stars you see in the sky are coming together to weave this unique fate system

Constellation are just the representation of a characters fate within this system

So Bennett constellation in the sky got struck off the timeline alongside mare jivari when venti did his thing basically

modern plover
#

thats does clear lots of misunderstanding

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ty you 2

odd thicket
#

And yeah it is the abyss all along

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So I discovered that the guy on easy breeze bar has lore on mare jivari

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That random fluctuation occurs and doors to that place opens like we see in the quest

odd thicket
worldly rain
#

One more thing is that now that the Night kingdom is fixed it should mean that Bennett shouldn't have any more case of bad luck... Although we'll see it next time we meet him I guess

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And if the bad luck still remains then that could mean that Bennett might not have his ancient name registered yet or something...

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It could also be that his bad luck is influenced by his constellation getting stuck in different timeline

odd thicket
#

We should know by the time he gets his anecdote

lilac coral
#

Yee

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Unless they decide to be bitches and leave him and several other characters out of it kekw

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Like they kept doing for the temporary anecdotes

lost quail
#

I wish people understood Mavuika more

#

Mavuika shows clears sighs of someone with baggage and mental effects of war yet people don’t believe it. Even if the fan base

She mask it so well

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But we can tell she definitely has some issues

sly bison
#

I don’t suppose there’s any way to remove bennet of his bad luck aside from him staying at Natlan?

lilac coral
#

Now that I think about it, I'm surprised we haven't gotten more shorts showing us silly dances and stuff from the various creatures in nod krai

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Or anything to that effect like they did for natlan

odd thicket
lilac coral
#

SO YOU CAN BUILD CONS OVER THE YEARS WITHOUT SPENDING MONEY

lilac coral
#

I thought it was like a one and done kind of thing where you could only pick one ever and then never again

lilac coral
# odd thicket

@onyx fossil @reef axle the vagueness has been destroyed

onyx fossil
#

Huh

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Oh shit

sweet dune
lilac coral
#

Who cares about hu tao 😔

#

I'm in it for yoi

odd thicket
#

me for ayato and baizhu

lilac coral
#

But yeah, there's always the chance they remove the character(s) you want cons for next year, but considering how many they've added to the list they'd have to do that to fuck over a lot of specific people lol

odd thicket
#

rest assured

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so yelan would be added next year

sweet dune
#

omg c1 yelan

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i hope they add furina

odd thicket
#

best value

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they wont

sweet dune
#

i want c3/c4

lilac coral
#

Imagine having yelan PepeHands

odd thicket
#

add archons

sweet dune
#

I know they're not adding arlechhino

odd thicket
lilac coral
#

I tried for her when she released and never again

odd thicket
#

when she reran with Hu Tao

sweet dune
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My decision to skip yelan on release was so bad my laptop blew up and i couldn't play for a whole six months

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missed the best summer event

odd thicket
#

As much as i want to upgrade my standards and get to masterless asap imo upgrading the old 5* so they arent redundant is better

modern plover
# odd thicket

im so on my way to get a C6 cyno and wanderer in the next 6 yearsE_pepelol

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at least they now give us the option to get C6 of your fav

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im not complainingA_GaspTao

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my favs are old and dogshit anyway

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if tartaglia and albedo got buff, i will get their cons to C6 too. but considering its 4 per year, im prioritise Wanderer and Cyno cuz their cons are somewhat usable

odd thicket
#

Since we would get fontaine and natlan in a year and two respectively

modern plover
#

i dont have most ppl from natlan and fontaine tho

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i think sigewinne is the best it will get. cuz aint no way they r giving furina and neuvi cons for free

sly bison
worldly rain
#

Did homdgcat update for preload?

odd thicket
#

yes

strange crag
#

I updated Amber with 6.0 story stuff

odd thicket
modern plover
#

the sky city above old natlan looks so beautifulA_GaspTao

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wait lemme turn off the UI

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this is giving sky children of light

odd thicket
sly bison
odd thicket
sly bison
#

Even used force crush

odd thicket
elfin zinc
#

Finally caught up to the ineffa quest

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wow i am happy i didn't open this channel like

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30 mins ago

lilac coral
#

And you can glide from that map to the ground below

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It doesn't teleport you or anything

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You get wicked good aerial views of stuff once you leave the clouds

odd thicket
#

@patent cloud

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bring your explo expertise from Tonatiuh

patent cloud
lilac coral
#

Poor Eron 😭

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Being summoned by astral again

odd thicket
lilac coral
#

I'm sorry for saying anything eron cincowbg

patent cloud
patent cloud
elfin zinc
#

I been so disconnected with genshin in natlan that all the lore in the last Ineffa quest went over my head, from what i understand, the dragon sovergein for natlan basically created 13 chatgpts and made them rule over certain parts of natlan?

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and nearly all of them are dead, except like 2 now?

odd thicket
#

Ajaw and Ineffa

elfin zinc
#

This is basically a MLM scheme now, how many layers of dragon [tiltes] are we in currently

odd thicket
lilac coral
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A lot

elfin zinc
#

You can also be a dragon lord if you also invite 5 of your friends to be dragon lordlings

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if they invite 5 of their friends, they become a dragon lord themselves

lilac coral
odd thicket
reef axle
#

Those who live in a land where gunpowder and steel are worshiped will probably find it hard to imagine why anyone would fear trees and grass, especially since these are things that a single flint can easily destroy.
But when the clamor they bring disrupts the peace of the forest, the beasts will come bearing the answer.

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I read the whole AQ

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this thing is not waking upA_GaspTao

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damn u mhy

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pls wake up im sad

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let aguara wake up and see the natlan that its owner is hoping it to see

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i cannot bear to see it immobile for another hundred year. the owner care for it so much let his results bear fruits

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bro i was hoping the incubator do something. but nothing happen

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the owner protects the egg till the end of his life that fucking sadA_GaspTao
is there a continuation?

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i need to see the continuation

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so no more pyro sovereign?

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i finished the quest in ock kan

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thats rlly good

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alright time to get dinner before coming back to the grind

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civilisation is founded
cilvilisation does something that angers big boy celestia
gets destroyed
is this basically half of genshin ruins in a nutshell

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I have just realised 90% of open world is us exploring ruins, genshin is borderline post apocalyptic

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is the chaos that happened after the marriage between voyager and first angel, nibelung's war of vengeance? I am confused on the timeline of early parts of the lore

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E_think wait i think i missunderstood who started that war

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Celestia

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Right?

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Wait. More specifically, the primordial one

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wasn't that war started againts celestia?

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not by them?

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Nibelung is there first

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Then primordial one randomly descended while Nibelung is outside buying milk

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Wreck his home, put a bunch of humans in

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Then call his home theirs

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Nibelung come back, mad asf. Started the war, got killed

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Oh btw, his daughters who is supposed to guard his home decided to just give it to the primordial one cuz yes

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Or thats how I understand it in razor language A_HuThumbsup

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The war is against celestia. But it is celestia who started the conflict

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The moon sisters also allegedly swapped sides

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I am still confused on where the voyager and first angel marriage falls into the timeline, the wiki says they happen around the same time (actually says they started the war and nibelung joined in with the abyss) but i suspect it might just be the wiki being the wiki

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The moon sisters are Nibelung’s creations

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But the part abt the seelies and angels for me around that timeline is also a bit confusing

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so they marry, start the war, nibelung joins in, the war ends with them losing, the moon sisters are shattered, nibelung dies and the voyager and first angel are cursed with seperation?

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and angel race is cursed?

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Yep

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I see

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so like nibelung comes sees a rebelion already happening and just, joins into the fray with the abyss? 😭

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So it’s not a two side thing. It’s 3 sides? Voyagers, Nibelung and celestia?

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Gotcha