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the latter
they didnt know
also
there were only 4 or 5 of them
tenoch and sanhaj died the day before
the rest perished fighting an abyssal tide
How come Mavuika couldn't revive them via the Ode of Resurrection? Was it because the battle wasn't really a part of the Night Warden Wars?
you could revive outside of night warden wars as well
but
Tenoch had lost his ancient name
and there was nothing left of Sanhaj to revive
Tenoch and Sanhaj perished during the battle of Mare Jivari
But what about the remaining 4 who died in the battle in the animated short?
Not confirmed yet buuuut the huge explosion we see in that Bennett's parent's cutscene could be their gambit to defeat the Bakunawa
we get their fate via their inheritor's story quests
Burkina was killed by Kongomotto in an abyss fueled craze
you can read how they died at their entry in the wiki
Are you sure this is correct? I'm just a bit confused because then it feels like Natlan then has access to a broken ritual that can continuously revive Ancient Name bearers until they die of old age
Not really
Mavuika character story clears this doubt away
It only heals the fatal wound
The scrapes, wounds earned over battle are still present
That is how mavuika’s father expired
Oh, my bad, I haven't read her character stories yet
Kinich is the only one so far who got lucky otherwise
He got vision healing his fatal wound
But still, I'm going through the wiki and it sounds like the Ode of Resurrection only seems to work during the Night Warden Wars.
It can be used outside of it
If they fell vs the abyss
Otherwise, I don't understand why Mavuika didn't revive her comrades
No body
Or
Tupac, for example, could've been revived, right?
Like she suspected
Reviving them wont help their cause
Tupac is done
The other five as well
Wouldn't them continuing to fight still generate fuel for the Sacred Flame? It could also strengthen their Ancient Names before it gets passed onto the next person
Thats what mavuika did
She waited for 500 years for that to happen
Mhm
I could never beat this woman in a fight
I’m clumsy
I get overwhelmed
Then I just like really angry when I do
Id prolly pull her hair in anger after the fights done
( then she’d beat me up again)
She has that exact instinct I think
I think
Yeah I’m fucked
Did skirk give you permission to post this?/j
Oh, I didn't recall her leaving us in paralogism 😭
And I haven't done mavuika's story quest yet
Superman 2025 (ending spoilers kinda)
But can you all defeat this dog?
No but surtologi forced me by his sword to do so
What da dog doing
Bro is worse than so many mentors in the game
They give Arle shit but ignore this bastard
Fr fr
LMAO
or black parent raises hand in black woman
I still can’t help but think
What if another person raised her
I still gotta make Daditano happen!!
It has to happen!!
I read some fanfics of them already and my heart melted
Capitano should’ve raised Arlecchino
That would’ve been so tuff
Capitano raised Arle would’ve been SOOOOO tuff
Tbf
He gets clowned on for leaving teyvat
I mean… at leadt he didn’t bring strange men into the heath full of children snd make them play squid games
Hearth*
Surtologi repeatedly pushed skirk to her death to train her
And
We dk why he earned the nickname foul
Other than he is a truly heinous person along even the Khaenrians like Hadaan
Oh shes up there still
Among top worst teyvat parents
Fr
I’m just picturing the types of games theu forced those poor babies to play..
It still haunts Arle too
In her character story
It’s blatant it does.
I’d tell Arle to her face Crucabena was a bitch
She was a grade a twat
And what she did was too quick
I dunno how Arle would react to that, I remember myself saying that if you wanna make her laugh rag on Crucabena for six minute
Her children would be horrified and how much laughing she’d do
This was Bennett’s dad throwing it back in front of his son and his friends by the way
Just
Let’s never forget that shit.
While his memories were still missing iirc
He remembered that arm wrestle
But that he was his son?
The memories of the asha could be from asha form, that happened while he was in asha form
But he wasn't an asha when he last saw his kid as himself
That's what happened right
I can't remember 😭
tbf its deserved
typical child abuser things
i am sure it all ends with reminding them o the hierarchy in the hearth
his wife was watching from behind the scenes too
he got the memories from mare jivari when venti signalled Mavuika
@crimson storm
bots
got them, ty
“I’d trade your heffa of a mother for a bag of dog shit and lint she was that much of a bitch. Her name should be crucabitcha.”
Arle:
in a way that is sad
never being able to move on
it would be apt justice if her grave was made the entrance or the hearth itself
Why stop there? Make it Irish step dancing
I don’t think Arle can do that
Neither can I
We can tango tho
Eh you know what
Maybe she can
Who knows
That woman’s a mystery.
Mavuika’s having Xilonen drive the flame strider
best activity for couples lowkey
Fr fr. Next Xilonen is gonna get Mavuika to ride her skates
She’s gonna fall on her ass
have you seen mav NA anims ?
idts
NA anims?
Mavuika is the fastest claymore user and not a clumsy person
Fit with how she is the perfect in everything
You’re telling me
A person who doesn’t know how to skate never skated before in their lives
Can put on skates
And skate like theyve done so for years?
That’s what yall wanna go with?
A ballet dancer is graceful dancing in every way, don’t mean they can skate.
I mean
This is mavuika
Not
They can easily pick it up tho
But shouldnt they be able to easily pick it up ?
……….
She strikes me as a polymath
Like
Ballet dancers put in hours to perfect their balance and posture and what not
Ok mate.
Surely they can pick up skating faster than most people
I never said they couldn’t figure out how to skate.
Obv not like years
But like
She can reach that level of mastery faster than xilonen could
Shes like gojo
You’re saying she’s a fast learner? I don’t doubt that at all. Im not even saying they couldn’t figure ballet dancer couldn’t learn how to skate in a fast amount of time.
That was no where near the point I was making. My point was that it’s unrealistic for them to all of a sudden put on skates and skate like an expert despite never putting skates on.
If the ballet dancer did it, they still need to grab something to hold them steady while they do
I’m not saying theyd fall if that’s what you wanna put for them
I’m saying they won’t be straight up mastery on something theyve never done.
I dont dispute that
Its the falling part i disagree
Going through her character stories
I’m tired asf rn
Ok
I agree
When I write her I’ll make sure to make her skate without tripping.
This makes me think
Without diminishing her character
How do you write mavuika vulnerable or have some shortcoming
One second
Other than the weight of her responsibilities
Or pushing others too much
Well with you advocating for this woman to skate like a god without even touching skates before in her life
I don’t see how you could.
🌝
Lemme stop picking fun
I feel like she’d pick up on it quickly. Quicker than most. I don’t dispute she’s a fast learner though. I just think she’d need to hold onto her for a second or two while she skated for a minute
That’s all
That’s kinda the root of her issues
(She is a god) /j
There i agree
It just made me raise my brow cuz you seemed like you were saying just because you can do one thing you can do the other with no mistakes or errors
Like “that’s not how learning a new skill works”
There’s fast learning then there’s …that
Anyways, what I ended up doing was make her vulnerability selective to one person seeing it as well as make her deflections clear.
Also I’m actually willing to make the HUMAN BEING stumble on her legs.
I let things bother her and I write out things that bother her.
In this case it was her conflict with Xilonen. I enjoyed doing that because I’m tired of the game making the human not human
Mavuika flew around which if it was possible, required balance , not only that,she controlled and predicted her bike's movement like crazy,skating is like opening a bag
I’m
I’m gonna pop a chip back in someone’s ear.
Then give the bag to them and apologize
I refuse to write this woman to be a symbol of perfection because that’s not a person that’s a robot.
This woman is not a robot : D
In fact doing so will only make me hate her. Because what do you mean she’s good at everything??? I get she’s a fast learner and really smart, some people irl are like that, but it’s kinda annoying to make a character who is completely perfect and can do everything an anything without issue as if they’ve mastered everything already
Even fast learners eho get things with a snap irl still need to learn things
I started liking Mavuika more when I realized she can bleed metaphorically so
She has flaws in her character and personality.
i get your vision now
can anyone check if this is true ?
Hunting the last one makes sense,why would Wild Hunt be against Frostmoon Scion if he wanted to avenge the moon? He might have a connection with Crimson Dynasty,Crimson Moon was never a part of the real moon ,just a shadow,maybe he dislikes that truth and wants to destroy the real moon,to avenge Crimson Dynasty 
And the nod krai teaser being about the past reflecting the future
Itto
Itto
Easily
Second place would prolly go to Lisa/ Keqing / Yae
At least as of 1 year ago, he was up there, but there were quite a few above him 👀
Wait, nvm, I read the post and it included story quest and AQs
Yeah i was at a loss seeing Emilie there
This one is events-only as of 4.6
(So about a year ago)
I think I’m genuinely scared we’re never gonna see Arle ever again
Shit or Sige
Sigewienne 🥀
Spare some space for Emilie she hasnt gotten a single event
Right
in an event? yeh. 100% seeing them again in a SQ/AQ tho (Sigewinne not really aside from maybe a cameo in something Neuv related)
Are you sure? They haven’t used Arle since FONTAINE
I know I know she’s in nod Krai
But I’m worried what if we don’t even see her there
We just get a mention
“Hur hur! Oh yeah btw THE KNAVE is here. Who cares anyway”
Yeah nah, she already confirmed she's been called directly for it and told us that we'll meet again ("whether it's as friend or foe").
+she's way too much of a fan favorite not to reuse for that
She's just not in events because her character has already confirmed she was leaving Fontaine shortly after her SQ, and also is a kind of character that's hard to work into the light hearted content of most events lol
Reminder that Fanfictions exist in genshin
Idk who thinks they don't, they've existed since liyue lol
its interesting that tenoch's remains were buried where mavuika;s should have been
and there is no sigil for the muratan tribe
for they had no saurian
it is similar to the speaker's chamber at central natlan
minus the hearth at the centre
so the obsidian totms all lead to the stadium's barred entrance in the NK
and the water inside is liquid memory and the only place where we can step on it is inside the stadium
and the night stadium has an obsidian pillar in addition
it has the same design as venti's music visualised
and it seems that all nightsoul battle totems occur on a flat plateau
beyond and above the nursery of dreams
yep its the nursery of nightmares for natlan
I WANT IT TO BE FRIEND I DONT WANNA GO AGAINST HER!!! She’s so sweet low-key…
She carries candy around let’s team up with her Lmfaoo
and sumeru's is...land of grounded dreams ?
We taking the van with us, too?
This reminds me of a certain arlecchino reel
No one is on Iron Tongue’s level

True but fanfics have still existed in-game before that one lol
Nobody has shipped Zhongli with Osial in game yet at least
Tru
Also
The shift in tone of Mondstadt to Natlan WQ and Commissions was startling
In Liyue and Inazuma they were so edgy
In sumeru it was tragic
In fontaine they went for a muted approach
And in natlan they did the edgy proper
And got over it quickly
Their game design has come a really long way
I wonder where Nod Krai is going to land
One doubt i wanted to clear up
What is the nature of Yaksha’s karmic debt ?
What is it really v
?
No idea if it was every confirmed, but I always just assumed it was "Abyssal Corruption with Chinese characteristics" 
I wouldnt wanna fight Mavuika and it’s insane Iansan wanted to
That woman
Could death punch me
They’re lucky this woman doesnt have anger issues
Because if she did
Whether or not you’re standing infront of the gates of celestia in 6 seconds flat would depend on what you say to her
I wouldn't in a million years that'd send me straight to hell without a moment's notice 😭
Now i want a char like that
is this with the f2p only stuff
No… 
Is there any way one can connect Nabu Mallikata to Columbina ?
They both have the letters L, U, M, B, I, N, and A in their name 👀
Otherwise depends on what kinda connection you're talking about lol
Both are moon maidens
Sounds like a way one can connect the two to me
Surprised theres no talk connecting Nabu and Bina already
Also i found an answer to what karma is
It is volatile elemental energy
Skofgungr, Eleazar victims all suffer from it
It messes up the person’s body’s elemental balance
Anyway
It seems like Envoys were bloodthirsty at some point too
For the crimes of humanity
And only by destroying their crowns could the angels attain freedom
Now O m w to look up any mural of angels without crowns
wait what
Nabu was an angel not a moon maiden
Unless Columbina also turns out to be an angel I don't think there's any connection here between her and Nabu
She does call herself a moon maiden as well
Iirc it was mentioned on fopl or key
"the Lord of Flowers was cast aside by the heavens.
Her magnificent vessel was left a savaged husk, her kinsfolk punished by way of being stripped of their minds..."
This is literal description for angel turned seelie I don't know where the moon maiden comes into picture
Unless you're telling moon maiden is the same as angels? (which I doubt it is)
Moon maiden seems to be a role / dignitary rather than meant solely for Angels
Can you share the link I want to see something here
Right but where does anywhere it associate nabu with moon maiden though?
Where's the link?
I don't see any mention that deshret built that city for nabu
Or even associated it with her
Hmm wierd do you have any info about moon maiden in lore? Something that can tell what it means to be a moon maiden?
Or do we wait till nod krai?
I think i figured out where i got this erroneous connection from
It was some loretuber reciting sumeru lore
No info other than that they jointly ruled that one city
Seems to be parched until nod krai
Yeah the way it looks like is deshret and nabu built the "moon maiden city" For the jinns but nowhere it's associated with nabu herself
It could just be dedicated to moon goddess themselves
Well I guess until definition for moon maiden gets fleshed out we can't say for sure that they're related to angels
Imo moon maiden is related to frostmmon scions and the worshippers of moons
And Nabu mourned the moons
Thus far in sumeru i cant find any moon tech
Other than the mysterious murals that appear fully only at night at the hypostyle desert
Frostmoon is the only moon in the sky so it should be the only one getting attention
The desert has not shown any acknowledgement to the remaining two
If say angels are indeed considered moon maiden then that would imply columbina to be an angel too
I dont think it is a role meant for angels only
6.0 pre load data suggests ||otherwise||
Yeah the remaining two already got shattered only one moon goddess body remains in the sky aka frost moon which we can see in game too
I feel moon maiden are likely candidates for new moon that is be risen
Not related to angels
Columbina fits that role
Or their chief priests/ servants/ mediums on the earth
Also
It seems that Egeria died underneath the sign of apoasha
Which is a bit ironical
Do you think it's the same one from ||khaneriah that the mad monk saw the truth from||
After all it did appear in sumeru during the cataclysm
Has to be
After all
The sign of apoasha was a view into the true cosmos
Ye it looks like a dent or a hole into the false sky that reveal the world beyond it
The skeptics thought it to be a reflection of the abyss
If it was just a reflection of the world outside the firmament it would have been red
This has to be where teh abyss is native in the cosmos
I think it is related to the ||mad monk||
rather than just the khaenrians
As he was acquainted with the Belyi Tsar who too was here during the cataclysm
I mean as in it is his of his work that the sign appeared over sumeru
I doubt considering it existed before him finding out about it
||His acquaintance with tsar happened after he was exiled and he saw the apoasha before his exile
actually that was the reason for exile too that he saw the apoasha that was hidden by Irmin||
My assumption here is he finally went rogue
After ||reed miller|| stopped his schemes
And he saw the cataclysm as a chance for whatever he wanted then
I should be wrong
Not sure since nod krai came into existence long before the event of cataclysm
If the ||mirror of apoasha||
Was indeed a foretelling/ model for what could happen in the near futute
And some khaenrians got jittery and fought for the abyss instead
Arent all of the ||nod krai|| lore we see in descriptions happening before the cataclysm and culminating to a resolution at it ?
It is before yes but not sure about culmination point
Depends on how far they want nod krai to be from cataclysm then
We won't know until nod krai comes
Like take long night oath artifacts...
It tells about events where tsaritsa takes control of nod krai region but did that happen before or after cataclysm? It doesn't tell that
Nor do we know exact timeline when previous tsar died could be during cataclysm or long before
Yeah okay I forgot that they mentioned all the new archons ascended 500 years ago
When you think about it
Only Furina is the new archon
Every other archon is ancient
Venti, Zhongli , Raiden Ei, Nahida (considered to be Rukha as well), Mavuika (with memories of all archons before her)
I think it was clear with raiden that new archon didn't mean newly born God but just that someone took place of older archon position
Although in case of nahida it was a new born kinda lol
Tsaritsa we dont have a known time for her birth but only that she was old/ senior enough during the cataclysm to succeed
so the tsurimi island angels were free of their crown ?
implying they were part of the rebellion
Nvm this is from dragonspine
And we have no imagery for how their crown looked like
also, where can i find evidence of horses on enkanomiya ?
I notice a distinct lack of Fischl on this bingo chart
well
fischl lore is the only part i havent visited in game yet
i have to search for the patience within me to go check it out
Oh? Curious about the astounding depth of her lore? 
yes
why tf isnt the image loading for me
yeah it loads now
given how much of genshin lore is hidden in children;s stories
it is a travesty hers doesnt get revisited often
granted it is very hard to decipher
Well, I've been a Fischl stan since day 1, so naturally I've had plenty of time to ruminate on the inner machinations of her eccentricities 
would you mind sharing some of the pearls hidden beneath the ramblings of hers
coz
i have it the last on my mental list of things to check out before nod krai
rn am at enkanomiya
Columbina in the same art as the archons
yea'
Ik she's in the same position as an archon, but is there any lore pointing out that the archon seat could be increased or not?
Also, fatuihq has its own nine slash eleven with this art out lol
no
it just mneans
shes the archon equivalent here
Yep, called it.
Dottore nowherre
WHERE THE HELL IS VARKA IN THESE TRAILERS/STREAM??
😭
I thought they said he’d be among the first people we’d meet there
I was scared if the writing "9/11" was banned here and I will be muted
The trailer said he was on the run
From some group on his heels
I mean, you can always try a word as long as it isn't a horribly derogatory one, it's just automodded
However bypassing that can get you in trouble
So if 9/11 was autobanned, you would've been in trouble for bypassing it with "nine slash eleven" 
Did I get into trouble by writing 9/11 as letter with that message?
no
No
Because you didn't bypass anything because it's not a banned term
I was saying if it was lol
So hoyo confirmed columbina left the fatui
So we're down to like 6/11 
If we count Childe as a real ally who'd turn his back on the fatui to keep those he cares about safe
And arle since she already seems to barely want to be part of it
She's been messaging me, she doesn't want to be spoiled in the slightest about new content so she left the server
She just asks me if there's any updates on mare jivari
SOOOOONNNN
ah
did you tell her that it is out.
?
I did before when it was just a bare bones part of the previous livestream
And told her it was going to release in parts
But all she wanted to know was if the mare jivari existed/was being expanded
She doesn't want to know anything else about the updates and go in 100% blind, no livestream, no social media posts, nothing
ohh
ig shes busy irl and wants to eat the content on her own pace
and then later return
She is like chiori
Yeah but it look like they sneak her in lol
Her art style looks very much like the trailer
It is like they photoshopped her there for the funny
Too much Lore everywhere in Nod-Krai, from Columbina to Sandrone to Flins to Nibelung to Rerir, it doesn't end.
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The king dropped a video finally
@odd thicket
Either shes wild hunt
Can’t believe this is surprising some people even more after what was literally had in A Time And Space For You
Or
This is very detail bc it’s actually a good and important callback to what was revealed about Lumine back in A Time And Space For You when Aether found out about one of her most awful fuckups
Nod Krai has the real lumine locked away
People are sleeping on why Deredyth was so important
She is not his sister
Yeah
Wat
That's why she forgot about her brother when she woke up in Khaenriah
I still feel like this Lumine is ||Rerir|| in disguise,I mean ||the Sinner|| knows Lumine very well
yes
It makes sense why ||the leak mark Lumine as "Abyss Sibling" not straight up abyss sibling||
Idk
It could be a new habit leakers or devs picked up
That IS still his sister
The only thing that changed is that she didn’t have the full scope due to external circumstances
And spent X amount of time bonding to Khaenri’ah
That by the time her memory came back by the Cataclysm
She was cooked with two insane choices by the end of it
But sibling oomf energy won out for her by the end of the day
She still made that call herself
@Wasifl1 Can we stop using these two as a basis for the other harbingers??
Childe canonically can not for the life of him accurately judge a persons character
And
Scara hates everybody. He is constantly looking at the absolute worst of a person, even if that person is trying to be nice
@Wasifl1 Can we stop using these two as a basis for the other harbingers??
︀︀
︀︀Childe canonically can not for the life of him accurately judge a persons character
︀︀And
︀︀Scara hates everybody. He is constantly looking at the absolute worst of a person, even if that person is trying to be nice
huuh
she only recalled her brother's full existence and location
it seemed like a desperate escape yes
to save her moral conscious
maybe her personality changes when she gets memories of her origins back
traveller is still muted regarding his ultimate objective
aren't scara's descriptions accurate
in a very edgy, narrow sense ?
Bruh why did you repost it 😭
To see if it the og had more content
You could’ve just clicked the link too 😭
Na, i hate opening a separate tab/ cover discord behind one with it on mobile
Sus
I have a headcanon, that Mavuika and Chasca might be the only ones in Natlan who’s prolly killed a man or two
Not the abyss, not monsters
A person
And let’s be real
Do you think they haven’t?
WAIT
Kinich too
The only way I see Mualani “killing” someone’s by guilt. What I mean is that she’d think someone’s death was her fault but it wasn’t
That’s how much I don’t see this girl ever killing anyone
Iansan….hmm…eeeeeh…
Idk
I don’t think she has or would
@odd thicket do you remember perinheri?
I have a crack theory that Columbina has been possessed by the spirit of one of the moon goddesses. Because the Columbina weve been seeing in the trailer is different from the Columbina we saw in Lazzo or heard taunt Dottore.
Somehow the fatui did or someone the spirit herself
Dottore was also different in the trailer because he is 2d,clone or not,they all look different because they are 2d there
Sandrone is more sassy in this trailer than the first introduction
……I feel like you’re misunderstanding me rn
Arle was relatively the same in the trailer and she is now.
Childe too
We’re learning more about these people. But Columbina seems entirely different from before.
Canon vs Fanon for bina
Columbina in canon and from her interaction with Dottore gave the idea or thought that she was aloof snd distant from things, but still had an edge.
And a teasing nature given her dialogue with Dottore.
And she says “my moon I must return to you” which before we thought she had no connection because she’s been only affiliated with the fatui.
But ok
I’m just saying something’s up with her
Arle had a strong connection to the crimson moon and possibly Ronova but she aint over here running to that moon
But it’s a crack theory so
I’m more focused on what I said prior to this anyway. Who the hell in Natlan’s has killed a man
You cannot convince me Mavuika has not
arle's moon is a reflection of a broken down space ship
bina's is an abandoned up for grabs moon
mavuika
kinich
chasca
Citlali
the others are kids
the only one here who would kill one on a switch would be kinich
others would try to pacify or reason
well the moon's will lingers
so maybe
Excuse me?
space ship is a wrong name sorry
Bro no one thinks about this, how many people has Mavuika fucking killed without mercy?????
arle's moon
is a reflection of a real moon
that was fragmented
so girly is only getting concept of a moon
Chasca I get
Ngl Xilonen probably would kill in self defense Ngl
I was gonna say “how do you confuse a moon with a space ship??”
well
moons are sentient satelites in game
so a bit of hallucination there sorry
She’s got a strong fucking concept then if that’s the case.
Her powers are definitely a concept/s
Like am I misunderstanding you rn?
no i was jesting a bit here
NO ACTUALLY LETS CIRCLE BACK
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS WOMAN DOESNT HAVE A KILL COUNT
Oooh ok I couldn’t tell Ngl
text lol
mme thinks at first
the iridescent moon's shadow was reflected on the waters
when it shattered
This is giving completely mixed signals
First it’s an eye…
Then it’s a shadow?
the special reflection, sank into the abyssal sea as in, was consumed by the abyss/ went beyond the firmament somehow
and reacehd khaenriah
khaenriah saw the waters reflecting the moon and skies to be the their sky
and believed that venturing into the abyss and into the universe are one and the same
ig after the 2nd moon shattered it appeared in the special skies of khaenriah
um
So.. was the moon from another ..world?
Like.. another dimension??
theres a chance she was the remnant of an angel's failed project
wait
read this
no wait
wrong link
here
this one
arle could be the descendant of this man
This is the book Pierro gave Arle?
yes
Bitch I’d be confused about my life too then
she is defo related to perinheri though
after giving this a long overdue reread i dont think arle is all that mysterious in origin beyond this weirdo angel
and the second descender
but
what is fascinating is arle's intended purpose itself
Dude Arle and Columbina have heavy fucking lore.
Wait what if Arle lost her memories of what she’s supposed to be and do
Either that or her curse again corroded that memory
If we don’t learn more crimson moon lore or Arle lore I’m beating Da Wei with a rubber mallet
Because Jesus Christ.
well
i believe we are not getting arle lore anytime soon
BUUUUUUUT
we would getr her lore indirectl
indirectly
we would get info about the crimson moon
but not angelica
i,e moon lore 👍
angelica/ perinheri lore 👎
the latter can be made out with the former
No because now we DO need Arle lore. Because if what you say is true, that could cook up a fucking DELICIOUS story for her.
Like what do you mean she’s not supposed to be here and instead might have a completely higher purpose???
But I do think you’re right in that when we learn crimson moon lore, we’ll learn Arle lore by proxy
I’m looking forward to Arle’s moon lore and Columbina’s
The moons are about to be my Roman emote
Empire
well
That lores the juiciest thing right now
you need to wait till hyperborea then
for voyager lore
which gives more background to arle lore
specifically, the motives and goals of this angelica angel
And who the fuck cursed her?? Cuz I really do think Ronova did indirectly
nobody cursed her
it could just be that the experiment over generations went poorly and arle is the final but suffering product of it
arle nor perinherri have committed a sin (as far as we know) that warrants punishment
So she’s the only one who thinks this is a curse??? And you’re telling me we don’t need more information on this mysterious woman?
I’m telling you if Da Wei doesnt do it, I will, I’ll snatch her up so fast they’ll have to fight me in court
I HATE.
HATE HATE HATE.
Character wasting
we do need but there needs to more build up for it
Maybe in Khaenriah?
too late
What caused that eye to turn and look at him…was that the illusion? The eye? And what reason would he have for seeing that eye?? Find out more in the next episode of
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE CRIMSON MOON
more like
What the fuck is up with khaenrian skies/ space ?
Yes!!!
i think we are getting some resolution for it next patch
but for another such artefact
? How? Khaenriah is our final stop after Snez..
it can be during
need this explained first
Right!!!! Unfortunately she can’t because she doesn’t even know. She still thinks she was cursed. She probably wasn’t even cursed.
SOMEOME NEEDS TO TELL
HER THIS???! Imagine we learn all about the crimson moon and what happened to Arle and her entire purpose potentially and if not her purpose, what happened to her and why she’s here,
And we dont tell her.
“Oh by the way, we learned a shit ton about you, some life changing stuff!! Sorry we didn’t tell you”
Arle:
OMG WAIT!! You’re right!!!
Irminsul too!!
Wonder if Dottore still has her blood
That could potentially be strong enough to burn irminsul
this is childe basically too
BRO YOURE RIGHT
we almost got irminsul figured out
Thank you Nahida
yerah
the angels broke their control by PO by destroying their elemental crowns
That’s why I’m wondering if he saved some and if hed go behind her back and use it to burn irminsul
one of them stole a khaenrian and likely used him for arle
My girlie Doesny need to be catching any heat for that
whose blood can cleanse and erase memories
he should be
irminsul is the backbone of PO's control over teyvat
maybe he achieve's arle's predecessor's goal via her blood ?
Bro imagine Arle and Childe bond over pieces of their lore being missing and finding out only later on.
I wonder what their reaction would be. Childe finding out hes an Ajax and Arle finding out … ALL OF THAT.
I’m spreading Arle and Childe pseudo sibling propaganda
Trauma bonding yay!
Right, so I feel like that’s why Dottore agreed to help her with her children
Because now he has something strong enough to achieve his goal. He just won’t tell her about it.
the top 2 fatui seem to have exploited the bottom 9
Bro we’re coming up with more shit for Arle than Da Wei and his writing team
Theu need to hire us
we dk yet
columbina could casually give out info regarding arle
Uh when has Capitano done that?
when she gives us bounties for matcha and labubu quests
My poor dead man
pierro
Ooh
…I still am trying to think of what Arle would react if you told this woman anything like this and it ends up being true
Personslly? I wouldn’t be the same
she would look crazy at you and resume collecting her kids from school on her bus
i cant imagine arle paying heed to any of this ngl
she has her goals in life set
Yeah true. She’s probably go “oh.. well that doesn’t matter now”
Then I’d be frustrated like “THE FUCK YOU MEAN IT DOESNT MATTER NOW?? You’re not even a bit curious??”
Columbina and Arle got that mutual “la di da” about big shit I guess
But I honestly get it? She’s got kids to take care of, maybe she’ll care when she retires but not now
Childe on the other hand????
he will think too high of himself and train harder for tsaritsa and challenge PO to a fight
or surtologi
Even though a part of me feels like that’s kinda dissatisfying. I understand why she wouldn’t care about it presently. But imagine you are told something life changing like that and you just go “oh. Whatever.”
Then again, Arle isnt the time to go ballistic at any piece of information. She read that book and didn’t seem to care too much.
“Yeah Arle you probably came from an Angel’s toe nail”
“Don’t care I have mouth’s to feed”
yeah
sometimes making characters more than they are / meant to be is disastrouyus
arle would suck if she became a moon goddess ngl
intrigue around her is from her grey humanity
She did say “a crimson moon shall rise” tho. As if to mean she would take some of it seriously
But she’s always been focused on her family
Mmmm yeah. It would be super fucking cool but I feel like that would kinda mess up her down to earth worries like her kids. She feels like the type to go “who im supposed to be doesnt matter as much as who I shaped myself to be”
I guess it would give her closure
Maybe she’d use it to her advantage
yeahj
If it could help her protect her children more
If she did become a moon goddess I see her embracing that fact while also not letting it change who she is.
i like her already lmao

the welkin moon web event conffirms only one moon goddess makes it
that being columbina
also
And maybe Childe might be the same way with Ajax.. he has siblings. I can’t see him giving it all away for a higher purpose, just like Arle wouldnt
i cant imagine her as a moon goddess
she would have to be responsible for all of the planet
he doesnt have a choice
his fate would be the same as ajax's
hes not escaping his higher cazlling
yea
actually
i cant say
previous ajax came from humble beginning and were pushed into becoming a hero
our ajax met skirk and purposely fought so many fights
afterward
that got him sent to the fatui
if he had the choice it would have been then
ig the tragedy of teyvat is that the humans cant choose their fate
and are pushed to it unknowingly
if he had a choice he would just fish and play with his siblings i hope
Yeah that doesn’t sound like Arle at all honestly. Because do you really see Arle taking care of an entire planet when she has specific people who rely on her? She made that promise to not only Clervie but to herself to love and look after the hearth and those kids while also working ro free them from the fatui.
THATS her purpose snd that is already coming to a closure with Lyney taking up the mantle. We just don’t know WHEN.
But I still can’t really see her not doing anything with whatever information they DO give her. She’s pretty resourceful.
Because I dead ass cannot see arle’s lore not being that huge. You have a character who’s
-not supposed to really be here
-has crimson moon powers FUCKING MOON POWERS that came from an ancestor potentially who has seen some shit and some how she got her powers from some where
Sorry for the tangent
Unless you’re Mavuika, Arlecchino, or Bennett.
Mavuika was supposed to die that day, she did not.
Arle once again somehow is here and instead of being as cruel as Crucabena ended up being so much better
And Bennett doesnt need to be explained
Mavuika got saved by her remaining 5 heroes
Or rather
Arle puts heavy emphasis on changing fate. ( another thing that makes her interesting) I feel like she’d be a very strong part or presence in a story regarding crimson moon or khaenriah or Project S.
It was her fate to survive
No.. it wasn’t lol. In fact even Ronova didn’t see that coming
She was just as surprised as anyone else
Capitano saved her life
Rest of teyvat can only negotiate with it
They cant change fate like descender cpuld
Nicole explains it
Gods view fate from their own perception
Hol up
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She explains here
Pierro also says it in his trailer
The fate decreed by gods is limited by their perception
It is one of mavuika’s idles too
In natlan aq, the “fate” was revealed to be a misnomer
Ronova merely demanded repayment
And mavuika was prepared to offer herself
Maybe she’s supposed to be something greater and came from something greater gets a power boost and then goes
“Ok back to my life” after helping out with something big or resisting the fate that tells her she’s supposed to be something greater
Or again she learns where she’s from and what happened to her and uses it in some way to her advantage.. but then after the dust settles returns to her life.
I’m already writing the fanfic as we speak : D because fuck you Hoyoverse, you have an amazing character and you do caca with her.
That’s kinda why I turned her into an oc version.
That’s a fancy cup
Since ronova didnt specify the fine details of payment, capitano waltzed in and got one back on her
I want that cup
Its in diluc’s home too
Actually
You can add columbina here too
As a moon goddess / soon to be fourth moon
She can alter fate
She can change arle’s fate and set her free
And cure her of that curse
Well project S. Is where Arle is gonna be significant, but ..like.. that seems less cool than what I just fucking said lol
What are your predictions for that btw? I have a few
I’ll add that to the fic
Actually, I might just give her oc version I made of her a similar arc
To be honest , i wanna be mute on that
I read some lore from next patch and
I am still at a loss, as in, no idea regards to P - S
I want to experience nod krai, read a lot of sneznaya lore and fatui world quest notes before taking a call
Aashikai had a good video in this topic
Where she finds out she’s supposed to be from a higher calling because she’s not from the world I put her in and her powers came from a god.
And she uses that power to better herself snd rid her of her bad karma from years of revenge against the group who killed her family.
Her most recent one
My prediction is that she takes all 7 gnoses and channels nibelung’s power
Same.
I want Arle to help save Columbina
And subdues Columbina that way
Oh!!! Link me to that video
Tbf
Everyone has a valid reason for that vengeance
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I made the Arlecchino oc I made similar to her but different to her too.
Her purpose is to save everyone when she thought her purpose was vengeance until she finds out the man behind the murder of her parents has been watching her.
I still need to work through everything. But she’s born from my love for Arlecchino
They said Columbina will take the power of all 7? Or the Tsaritsa?
Sounds like bleach’s premise
Go ahead and, genshin bleach is an interesting idea
Tsaritsa
Genshin can have so many kinds of fated one stories its insane
So maybe the guy has a faction ( I made him inspired by Dottore) and uses his faction to control everything. He wants to harness the power of the gods above and find out my other oc is a key to that power.
Her parents formed a group that combats these people but they were killed as they got in his way, so she swore vengeance while trying to pick of the pieces along the way thar this faction has broken.
However he researches the gods power snd finds out a little girl came from the gods as an experimeny but something went wrong
And she abandoned the project by sending the away from the dimension their in and to the ons this world is in
Never watched this show
So now I’m like “well fuck.
She meets a woman who agrees to help her due to her helping her out with her village.
This oc I made is cold and calculated, only being fixated on vengeance and helping others as part of that
Oh oh! Also!!!
Im still writing my mavuinen story snd the reason I brought up who would kill in Natlan is because I though of having Xilonen accidently kill a man in self defense.
Yeah..
Uh
I also wanna make a zombie au
I wonder how everyone is gonna look in 20 years in the future ( in the game ofc)
I do not believe being the fourth moon means she can alter everyone's fate or anyone's fate, I think it is the false sky that controls people's fate. My older theory is that each region has its own fake sky, it could explaining the different skybox in every region and how people outside Natlan can't see the broken moon when they step out of the border, Neuvillete regain his authority and new hydro vision user will be free of fate , coincidentally,in his trailer,the sky are shows broken at the end,as if it is a symbol that newer hydro user is no longer a subject to fate, the false sky for the region of hydro sovereign no longer works. It still hides the real sky but there are definitely more than just hiding the outer space, that's my theory
Also I wonder if the planet actually spin
I will try to connect the NodKrai exploration mechanic (magnetic) to her role I guess
I don’t think we’re gonna be necessarily following the same characters if we reach that point tbh
Genshin could just as well take the multi-saga story approach long term kinda Honkai Impact 3rd is doing, but a bit further
We come back and it's from the perspective of Timmy and his imaginary friend Mr. Cyclops with his army of pigeons and TCG prowess to protect him
https://fixvx.com/thetidesbeckonn/status/1961852031364124796?t=LwwlWuix9PdyLsR2jhrivw&s=19
Fatuihq can't remembered this shit just because of Natlan lol
↪️ Replying to @Remellu
@Remellu "i pray hoyo has the balls to make us fail for once" as if we haven't failed to find abyss twin every single time, got clapped by arlecchino, got our ass beat by scara until nahida's dream loop was complete... do these ppl even play the game? 😭
I hope columbina slanders the fatui so so much
……….i..
Mate
I didn’t say we were
I asked “I wonder how theyd look and what theyd be doing in 20 years” the characters weve met so far.
Like a “hey what if?”
Coincidentally the devs also brought up that they’d like to have the game continue for even 20 years in the most recent special program
Heh
Irl, but then they'd be working with ash Ketchum rules 
Hopefully not lmao
Even the Hi3 devs had some good sense to have their characters age as they implement “sagas” into their story
And who’s device is gonna last that long?? Lmao
No one
People will def be replacing their phones that time lmao
Kiana is actually 28 atm I think
hag /j
These people want a bad ending in a game about a protagonist who supposedly changes the entire world ,this ain't dark fantasy show
Excuse you 
I wonder why people still think Xilonen hates Mavuika when the only reason she avoids her is so she won’t have to do any strange commission..and even then she still does them
She doesn’t hate Mavuika at all. She just only gets on her nerves when Mavuika has a crazy idea for her to do.
Mavuika can get a bit too excited about her crazy ideas and she even promised her she’d take it easy
But besides that only thing, Xilo does like Mavuika a lot. She cares about her safety, enjoys messing with her when she gets the chance
Like do not play with me
I have to know. It needs to be studied
Are ppl not allowed to fight with people they like?
My friends get on my nerves sometimes but that don’t mean I don’t like them anymore
The ineffa quest has been nice so far
It was soooo nice!!!
Wait a minute
In fact
Xilonen’s sees the commissions as a challenge so I’m trying to figure out why she keeps running away
As if girl isnt gonna make it anyway
I guess Mavuika’s ideas are pretty big so she avoids hearing them until she can prepare herself to
No seriously
I don’t understand
I don’t even think this is a regular boss and employee dynamic either
Because that argument proved their relationship isnt really that either
Especially since they sure don’t treat each other like boss and employer. As Xilonen gets to her commissions when she gets to them but does Mavuika’s first not because of demand but because she doesn’t wanna pass up the challenge
Like am I making sense???
I hope I am
THEY WEREN'T ALIVE???
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE LIVING DRAGONS
and that their souls just disappeared or were moved like with ix-what's her face in the dungeons 😭
then how tf is ajaw one
like he's just artificial intelligence from a secret source automaton turned pixel?
i love how this sovereign just... rats out on the merchant guy 
"merchant? but his portrait is hung up in the fatui stronghold!"
Even before ineffa quest came out there was that one world quest with one of the soverign lords which already comfirmed that soverigns are AI
it confirmed they were ai?
if you're talking about the one i'm thinking of, i don't remember it mentioning they're ai
unless i just forgot after reading one of the many notes
the one where we had to drain the water from a reservoir and free the statue of one of the sovereigns
I KNEW IT

Everyone who denied me can go suck on lemons!
Yeah that's the quest and they don't explicitly say it's ai but we do see their form which was mechanical construction not to mention their name was very machine tier (type l machine array something something)
But yeah for explicit confirmation ineffa quest was the one to go
Ahh that's what you meant
I didn't really connect it as them being the machines, I moreso had assumed that their souls had been sealed within them to preserve them
Same with ix being in the statue
Their name was kinda similar to ASIMON who also is a AI construction that's where the guesswork came from at the time
I assumed she had been alive at one point as a real dragon, not just an AI sealed within the statue
Gotcha okay
Thank you for the clarification
Yeah it wasn't explicitly confirmed at the time so your assumption wasn't wrong either tbf
They could've have gone with real dragon as well who then turn to machine later type thing
Ye
But it's interesting that the pyro dragon sovereign made them AI and appointed them as sovereigns themselves, instead of giving the position to other dragons
It feels like it made little difference considering the infighting they still had and the insane difference in their personalities, unless that was the point
There was even an Ochkanatlan world quest where you see dragon statues operating off an program referring to itself using a serial # too
Funnily enough
Also referred to Ajaw by name drop
Dragons civilization being quite advance as it is I saw AI dragon lords creation as natural conclusion to their civilization just like how we humans have begin creating robots (just that they're not sentiment atm lol)
Not to mention pyro sovereign was too busy in his research that he probably didn't even care about the agency of those lords
Fair enough
It's also the fact that maybe biological flesh getting corrupted by abyss could also be one reason to chose sentient ai as successor
In worse case AI can just transfer their consciousness to other mechanical body unlike those real dragons in those times who would just die
And if that's the case it's indeed kinda ironic cause none of those dragon lords amounted to anything in the end after all (except for ineffa I guess)
You know I wonder what happened to pyro sovereign reincarnation after little one rejected it...
Whether it'll have any importance later in the story or not...
Probably not, considering how many things get left behind in the story unless it's a playable 5* character lol
That or it will take literal years to get back to, like with albedo
True...We still don't have any info about electro sovereign
guys
can I safely say the lyrics of the nod krai theme in the live performance are a hint/foreshadowing of what’s to come in the nod krai storyline
aka it will play during the final segment of the story
They are pinned down beneath Inazuma /s
@odd thicket yo, the FatuiHQ are now making a sub called r/FatuiRadicals lol lol
Thats just
If you remember the leak about Fatui Harbinger, ||there are two sides of the harbinger, (cmiiw) liberal and conservative/radical||
Yeah
Which turned out to be a leak of turds
I think it will happen, but in real life lol
I think theres no lib here
Tbh
Every fatui hq post is worse than the other
am I correct to say the lyrics are foreshadowing the events of nod krai storyline
and some info of the lore
"Columbina didn't turn out the way my headcanon says so now I'm gonna crash out..."
That's it...that's all the delusion there is to it 
aside from like 3 harbingers talking about her and her angelic aesthetic, everything else is hc
im seeing what she’s gonna do in the main story either way
was the ‘she’ refering to the first angel
Abyss too
Also
We got nod krai whole plot in the web event itself
The hilarious part is they believe childe's dialogue...the same dude that thinks pulcinella is taking care of his siblings for some noble cause 
People wanted Columbina to be like Sandrone
Laumao
As if we haven't been shown already how wrong childe's judgement around his fellow harbringer has been
Yeah
And wanderer’s dialogues too
They cant separate the cynicism from him
wanderer might be right about Pulcinella tho
just a hunch
but then bros just a bitch even post his interlude
we even got the general map design
They wanted her to be some eldritch horror like being and ok but don't get mad that she isn't because that's just your headcanon at the end of the day lol
I think that sub consumed too much of fake leaks atp
Remember capitano the strongest individual lol they actually believed that and got mad when he lost
the eldritch being hc is cool but personally im interested in her moon goddess/angel connection
since it’s canon
Yes
columbina will betray traveller etc
Is someone actually upset that Columbina isnt a leftist?
mavuika won
I doubt that will happen,for now
we still don’t know
they also thought that scaramouche would kill dottore and got angry about it
was the ‘once bound and humiliated’ refering to the first angel or columbina
angel
pale princess might be about the fall of the angels rather than the sinners
the pale princess may or may not be connected to hyperborea by herself
but they used moon/ voyager power
Pale princess and six pygmy have two seperate parallels for some reason
On one hand you have the light prince who came from the other side of the moon to the pale princess which could be parallel to voyager/first angel
But then you also have this prince getting chopped into 6 pieces where each is taken by pygmies this relates to the abyss sibling sharing (willingly or unwillingly?) their powers with the six sinners
Say does anyone know if the official book lore differs from the data mined ones?
Like they still haven't released all the volumes maybe they might change some stuff there in the future then?
...and how would we know that if they haven't released it yet?
silly question 
No but some volume did release
just the first iirc
I'm asking if there's a difference there
well, the one volume we have was in the game since 1.0
so there's not really a difference to find
Nope, still only one volume for some reason 
because it would give away the whole dainsleif plot
Moon light forest also looks to be parallel to crimson moon dynasty
While night mother may represent the eclipse dynasty
Ykw you kinda cooked
pale princess might not be mutually executive as we think
it might have both the fall of angels and khaenriah/sinners
Its for the former
Or we thought so at first
Also
Sacrificial Fragments was eroded by time
Under command of Irminsul or Istaroth
Its a book related to the moons
@worldly rain do you think Columbina would name drop Ay - Khounoum ?
Even though our hearts be stung with sorrow
But what tears can wash away calamity
And what mournful dreams can bring back our homeland?
The golden city was devoured by flames
She was once bound and humiliated
But she will one day rise from the ashes
And with hope, lead her people back home
Doubt it since I don't think she was in sumeru when that got built nor that the place was built for her specifically
She refers to either the First Angel bound by her crown (likely, as hyperborea was engulfed in ‘flames’ according this song and she is set to rise from the “ashes”)
Or the frost moon , but we have no history of her capture/ jailing
It could be for a different moon maiden in the past, perhaps as a note to their collective history
Yeah like building things for God but not any specific God type thing
But first angel was reprimanded personally by the PO
So perhaps “she” could refer to the city itself and their collective identity ?
Calamity here should refer to the abyss imo
Lead her people back to home
Definitely not said for city but a person
Most likely first angel
First angel should have been the first to turn into a seelie
She was doubly cursed
I don't think so especially if you read the ||upcoming event weapon lore||
Oh ? I havent read those
Ill do so now
There are no moon dragons because the moon dragons are just goddesses.
