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Skimming over what I missed, does this mean that one person who said time travel would be how we get the Kheanri'ah chapter (from the teyvat travail) was right lol
Like 4 years ago
if anything, considering the recent trailer, vedrfolnir possessing likeness to Istaroth's power is sufficient argument for otherwise
kinda
but time travel doesnt and shouldnt exist if paradoxes are indeed prohibited on Teyvat
explicit implications that he has not done so in the past*
I suppose the only hint we have is in the first scene of the trailer
Istaroth / Vedrfornir can change and grant history to beings
Surtologi/ Asmoday can corrupt and alter properties of life within their space
But Rhine created those people…
Skirk could not remove the curse of immortality but could stabilise the beaten human body
Maybe Surtologi treats the body as a domain and super imposes his logic over PO’s for the body alone ?
xilonen anecdote is funny
so more from her anecdote with chiori:
Nod Krai is freezing cold but also a hub of congregation for all sorts of people much like mondsdadt
It also has new outfit plans for Charlotte so i thought she might be getting a skin 👀
Hopefully
But the insider info points to ||Neuv getting a dragon themed skin for lantern rite instead||
They reserve skins for their popular characters
Skins don't necessarily have common lore bases
kirara....?
Winter themed skin and a chinese dragon themed one would be too jarring in one patch imo
You really think nilou or kirara are popular?
She was popular
Yeah
at least Charlotte has usage bcz cryo healer
i mean neuvi leak is also stc so
No not like that
Its not the meta thinf
Thing
Its the so pretty i wanna pull for that alone thing
Neuvi would be first lore imp person to get skin, right?
Fischl and Diluc
right now it's all relatively normal people
oh right fish is sus
Then Nilou and Kirara
but normal people category compared to archons/dragons?
Thh Hu tao is pretty important
i know nilou was imp in aq and the goddess of flowers references in her but kirara?
She is somehow related to Homa who in turn is related to Ronova
Wanderer skin pls 
Kirara was just cute
Technically he already has one
Bad example
I mean if they want they can make Charlotte cute too
You might as well say Furina has more of a skin than Wanderer 
They want to sell skins after all
Better sell them for characters whose players will buy the cosmetic
And i guess the timing wouldn't sit
Wanderer should’ve gotten a skin in 4.8 smh
nod krai is sept and lantern rite is jan
Fisch be very sus
two skins won't be back to back
Nod Krai 6.8, trust
Sus
Every time we get fischl sus info i keep regretting missing missing 2.8 event
hoyo give us old event stories 😭
Tbh the fontaine 4* are not that popular to the level of Kirara
Layla might get a skin sometime
Or funny enough, the natlan 4* men
SusTainer
Reported
The SusTainer of Heavenly Impostiples
I think other than Jean, Barbara, the only character to get a skin shortly after release is Kirara
Third square: could be
Fourth square: he want to be a bootleg Descender...?
Fifth square: only one nail left
Sixth square: how can Dottore maximize Columbina's power?
Seventh square: who? (Like seriously)
Eighth square: could be
Ninth square: the leak about Tsaritsa's back lol
Rerir is the dude who was planning to open the abyss portal in the desert area I believe
Varka isn't trying to be a Descender, Descender true purpose was never to record history
Ok, bootleg Traveler then.
wait was this ever said before
No,I thought it was a WQ npc
it was the fallen principal of the last darshan in the desert
i forgor their name
but iirc no sinner was ever involved in any of the cataclysm period battles
Unique story npc
bakunawa is gold's creation
so nod krai's hisi island still uses first civ structures
Is that really Tsaritsa?
I think we can turn into the deer in her kit...?
Likely
Could be our first animal transformation gameplay lol
She look like one of the character in a new anime this season
eh, i'll pass, the cut of that dress looks horrible
This thing look like it gonna create a barrier or explosion
looks like the thiing in sumeru desert
It is kinda like a mirror
Which explain why the top part is incomplete like a reflection
I would think it is the fake sky but iirc the place isn’t that high
Actually,i think the entire frostmoon is in a protective barrier
Maybe that’s why fatui is struggling to “rescue” bina
Its just a short one
Teaser next week
The actual teaser is expected on Wednesday or Friday
The entire 6.0 is just nod Krai?
Yeah ?
I feel like it has been leaked multiple times, unless you don't look at leaks
Oh
Not just 6.0, but 6.X
Looks a bit similar to geo saurian possibly nod krai version for exploration mech?
Looked similar to enkanomiya and chenyu vale
Maybe
Absolutely draconic though
I don’t think so
Hoyo doesn’t reuse the same exploration mechanic
That's true
We'll see then but they have to bring something for exploration especially after natlan they can't just go back
Of course,maybe teleportation mechanic
A little we saw from teaser the new character could transform? Into the deer so something like that?
Or riding horse
They said they'll expand mare jivari in future updates wonder how they'll go into that..
Ghost centaur
Deer ghost centaur
Nod krai looks exciting ngl
Next week for proper teaser
I can't watch the stream for another like 4 hours since I got a drive home, but I'm hyped to see it 
Okay bye
Look like frost moon people can transform
No wonder Fatui is struggling to find bina

Traveler certainly should get something similar then
Ineffa kinda teased it too,her arm is from a nodkrai faction,which can turn into weapon or a broom
I think making it like natlan would be lame,but we will see
Oh definitely need something new can't reuse old tech
But we'll see how they wanna go into that
Ah,you meant traveler kit,||traveler can only use new reaction||
May be indwell
I meant as in traveler will get indwelling equivalent of nod krai yes
Traveller allegedly had 3 old elements buffed by lunar reactions
Personally I hope they don't go as far as they did with natlan
and keep the difference between nod krai vs non nod krai characters exploration fairly close in experience
Like saurian were good conceptually but the execution was lacking
Especially when you compare it to playable characters
So hopefully they don't go too far this time and keep exploration to environment mostly
All region character have their own gimmick,since Natlan took the exploration,Nodkrai will focus on element reaction
So sumeru 2.0
Sumeru focus on their open world map more tbh
Dendri wasn’t that big of a deal since it is a completely new element
But nodkrai reuse old elements but add new reaction
I'm still hoping we'll get new reaction for all characters
Just that ineffa type characters will get something extra like "direct lunar charge dmg" to separate them from the old cast
So that is the difference
It's like getting bloom for all but bountiful bloom only for nilou
So something like that but we'll see how they go with new reaction
Unlikely,because new reaction are based of moon power
Unless a certain character blesses old characters with that power
Adding new reaction to then limit it to new characters only and if you don't pull you don't get anything
It's similar to nilou I guess but we still got other dendro reaction for other characters
I'm not sure how I would feel if lunar reaction are only for new characters...
I'll still pull for someone I like but yeah
dendro did save electro
yeah
any of the 7 elements get a lunar reaction
If the reaction is broken then I would complain, because lunar charge is not that good
Luama - Dendro - ???
Ineffa - Electro - EC
Columbina - Hydro - presumably all lunar
Aino - ???
Durin - ???
6.0 Male - Electro / Cryo
it is good actually
Really? I didn’t paid attention to ineffa kit after her first leak
Ineffa did more dpr than Escoffier and near Emilie
Actually after the reaction dmg stat and calc
i think more than emilie
she had to get nerfed for it
her signature set likely pushes her even further
anyway
Ineffa is genuinely strong
she brought Cyno to above 70k
Ineffa also don't have her "kinich" nor does she have her artifact
I'm sure she'll be fine once both happens

i dont think she will have a kinich actually
Either way, I have no hope that mew reaction are available for the rest
6.0 male is now cryo
I'm not trusting leaks atp 
but it can be electro too
Since ineffa can only use it because of the || moon fragment she possesses||
it would be odd if two nod krai characters shared teh same reaction
But yeah ineffa last I saw was better than emily
Durin can potentially use Lunar reactions
Unlike burn that doesn't do anything lunar charge actually does dmg
And if the new artifact buff that then she'll do even more
||yeah cuz he is made of Bakuwa which also ate moon rock||
was bakunawa ||eating moon fragment|| confirmed
also it being a creation of gold was a surprise
so in order of age,
Bakunawa
Durin
Elynas
Albedo ?
Not yet but if it || ate eternity moon then it makes sense it is immortal||
but gold made it immortal
unless she used moon for it too
Wait where was it said durin was ||made using bakunawa||
the archon quest
That we will have to wait because we only know he was created by gold so far
paralogism
it is said gold intended him to never stop growing or something
so he is immortal
also
Also if she can make a monster immortal and can regenerate everytime then the rest should be the same imo
Uh I'll have to go back and re read I guess

When Albedo asked for Immortal monster’s flesh in Mare Jivari
Oh okay I remember now
Who is the one helping with Bakunawa fight again
Enjou and Citlali
Oh that
Citlali gave it to us
Its the calamity of eshu
oh so uba says this are even more baby than the usual baby models damn i didn't even notice
It’s like if paimon walked around
Yeah
Also can it be any less brighter
I don’t see it
If anything this kid looks more developed than the likes of Klee or Qiqi
Esp with the longer and thinner legs
Will prolly need a side by side comparison to better tell
wait they straight up said benny's constellation was in mare jivari???
the hell is that about
We’ve had teases that Benny somehow hails or is from the Mare Jivari over the years
Even from the first Windblume event
It’s implied Venti knew too I’d say
It was said that he was found in an area where strong winds blew
But since in mare jivari winds didn't blow
I didn't think that bennet is actually from mare jivari and it was probably red herring
But now they've shown that there are two version of mare jivari one with the winds and other without
And Bennett is also confirmed to be from there as well now
Wonder what's that about there being two version of mare jivari
At least people can be at ease and forget
About the whole “retconned” Mare Jivari complaints given what we’ve seen
Cuz now both will be true
Sanhaj created a mini night kingdom and used it as a bomb to seal away the abyssal beings during the cataclysm
ever since then its been an anomalous place
also
mare jivari being underground tallies with Kinich's Hill of Silent Crickets
Hmm
They said they're going to expand mare jivari in further updates
I wonder if it's like expanded world quest type thing where they continue mare jivari story for multiple updates alongside main story of nod krai
do yall think the underground people were khaenrianhs ?
definitely
the mare jivari we get is a mere teaser]
What I know for now is that mare jivari of 1000 years old the one where wanderers troupe went
And mare jivari 500 years ago with sanhaj doing his thing
That's the two version then of mer jivari I assume yeah?
yes
Alright there's also some time anomaly there I think
Let's see where this goes then
Tbf
It wasnt said he was found in an area where strong winds blew
Only that the adventurer passed through those on the way
A predicament that had all but swallowed an old adventurer.
The scorching flames scalded his skin, the deafening thunder almost ruptured his eardrums, and the hollering winds threatened to rip his soul from him.
At the end of his hellish journey, what awaited him was... a baby.
The old adventurer thought he was the first living thing to pass through this arduous ordeal. But how could he explain that which lay before him?
It's possible they passed through lava/windy Natlan on the way to it
mare jivari as described in 5.0 and 5.1 and 5.2 had anomalous weather with roaring winds, still days, sky high flames
Reading this the place towards the end of journey actually then has no actual description of its own
anyways
it seems that the trio of quests we have next patch will be the most important in understanding the background of visions, constellations and leylines
Scorching flames, deafening thunder etc all are places before he found Bennett then
And the actual place doesn't seem to have any description
Yee, think people just jumped to it because:
- We knew Natlan was lava and fire, which the adventurer passed through.
- We knew the Mare Jivari was in Natlan
- It does sound like the unluckiest place someone as unlucky as Bennett could end up

And hey what do you know all of it hit the mark anyway 
Ngl I was so sure it's gonna be another mona from Fontaine situation but this is fine too
Still think she should have been from there personally (just fits the best with her story/lore)
It's also the way her en voice spoke that made it more believable ngl
For me it was how out of place/how much help she needed navigating and getting a place in Mondstadt
Felt less like a local returning home and more like a new arrival getting their footing
That too yeah fischl also helping her around
Also how no one in Mondstadt has old memories of her 
Watching the stream now and I gotta say, depending on how they go about it, the new summer area might just feel as refreshingly chill as the first gaa
And I'm really hoping it is
It looks fun and cute and summery
Vs the heavy story of gaa2, the convolutedness of the mirage, or the jam packed layers to the storybook (albeit I at least really liked that one)
Wait, they aren't going to show the phase 2 banners????
Is this the first time they're doing this
I can't immediately think of another time where they only showed phase 1 and not phase 2 banner 5*s
Also finally, a permanent summer area 
They posted it on HoyoLab, just not in the stream strangely enough
Oh, that is weird
I thought it was going to genuinely be some secret special banner or something
Lame
Anyway, thank you Jake
I shall continue to save my primos 
I’m cooked KC
Citlali and Ineffa on first half
Ineffa will still be roaming the overworld after this Quest until Traveler and Paimon head to Nod Krai proper

Slowly implementing the recent events then, where you just talk to the characters in the overworld
The new summer island area is also permanent too
I saw
Also
And now that I've woken back up, I'm watching the rest of the stream and mare jivari finally being released 
Though, from the stream it almost looks like it's just empty with only an arena for the new boss
I hope that's not the case
And that there's exploration in it
Oh I should've kept watching they talk about why it's such a small area in 5.8 
Also, released in future patch_es_??
It's going to be released in multiple patches alongside nod krai? Interesting
Yelan's hair looks gorgeous in this outfit, goddamn 😭
And the dress is beautiful too
She changed from Xingiu’s hairstylist to Eula’s

Eula doesn't have that hairstyle though
She has the regular bangs that go between the eyes
Instead of over and covering one with open parts at the bottom
That’s how she hides her work
Her work?
Also our first actual look at nod krai's in-game appearance
It doesn't look at cold and white as I thought, since there's green grass to the left
Maybe the further you go the colder and icier it gets?
I thought the desk mat looked really fucking nice in the stream so I went to go and check it out on the secret lab site
It's fucking $129
FOR A DESK PAD
A DESK PAD
Made of fake leather
I've never been happier to have my $30 desk pad I got with fontaine others on it 😭
Yeah
Charlotte and Chiori anecdote says as much
The gaming chairs are a $1000 each
Too
i don't have a base for how expensive gaming chairs are since i just sit at my dining room table with my regular wooden chair
i assumed they were expensive though
but not a desk mat
the price of the fucking deskmat is about as much as a new used phone 😭
you haven't done it yet?
if you told someone in 1.x that this is how characters could look in the future do you think they'd believe it lol
like i agree, it's a glow up and especially with the small new details they've added to new characters like skirk and dahlia that give it that little "oomph" like dynamic shading on the face from the hair
alongside all the new little details they've put into designs like more edges and things (her bangs being cut in a lot and faded to show the eye unerneath instead of fully opaque, a lot more detailed clothing, etc)
oh shit i just realized
the genshin specialist video should be out soon for natlan
if it isn't already
one more month probably 
i wanna see who they turn into an eldritch horror this time
or not eldritch horror but who they make levitate/t-pose/etc
Ororon in an scp level with inner voice.
With Ayo as the montster chasing her.

The what
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this one was before natlan released, they should be making one for before nod krai releases
the first one was before inazuma released https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtuCMeqdemI&pp=ygUpYWxsIGdlbnNoaW4gY2hhcmFjdGVycyBkYW5jaW5nIHNwZWNpYWxpc3Q%3D
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this person did one before fontaine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFCeGNFlwCQ&pp=ygU1YWxsIGdlbnNoaW4gY2hhcmFjdGVycyBkYW5jaW5nIHNwZWNpYWxpc3Qgc3RlYWx0aGxlc3M%3D
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@lilac coral So apparently Sandrone spoke in the version trailer 👀
She did!
Specifically this line
https://vxtwitter.com/dailymarionette/status/1946192451913580897
She mentioned the dragon technology
And she will be one of the masterminds in nod krai it seems 
The hmph is giving me major brat energy 
I mean, she is one of the harbingers ive been interested in, yeh
Her, Columbina, Pierro and Dottore are the Harbingers I actually care about 
I think, at this rate, columbina and pierro are the only ones I'm interested in for the story behind them, but sandrone I care about because she seems like a posh boss and I wanna see that lol
Im just hoping to get from her the psychotic villain we were denied with Arle lol
At least Sandrone canonically has some f'd up stuff she's done (ripping out tongues and whatnkt)
Hopefully, if not columbina lol
And at this point I'm not holding out too much hope for her to have actually done those fucked up things considering how they retconned/subverted things with arle
Like arlecchino was built up to be this mega villain who destroys villages and steals children for the orphanages, raising them to be spies and warriors for the entire army that the tsaritsa is building- only for her to be released and she doesn't seem to actively do that and uses the hearth as a sanctuary and base for intelligence work than intentionally going out and burning towns to the ground and brainwashing children to be fatui soldiers like we were led to believe with the inazuma quest
Or the "they'll kill me" thing turning out to be "she actually just makes you drink a potion that makes you forget everything so your old persona is what's killed and not your physical body"
I can imagine them doing something similar with sandrone, especially if she's meant to be playable
Like the tongue thing being a rumor, or that the person it was done to did something horrible (unless there's context, I can't remember)
“Oh that guy actually lost his tongue cuz he stuck it onto a frozen pole.” 
But tbh i feel Sandrone is being too ‘hyped’ over her sanity already by some folks
She’s a very sour and snarky recluse that keeps to herself
But that’s it
Besides it’s not like being implied to removing someone’s tongue is that outlandish compared to what we see Arle do already
Stabbing her soles into someone’s skull and wiping the blood off afterwards
Worst I can maybe expect from Sandrone is that maybe she’ll have a crash out trantrum 
😭
I mean yeah, that's why I don't have much hope
They could turn around and just find an excuse for stuff
But it'd be nice to have an actually unhinged villain that appears for more than 60 seconds of screentime dottore
She herself (implied) sent a letter to the traveler apologizing for this one guy’s misbehavior while also detailing he no longer has a tongue to speak with and is utterly mind broken after whatever tf happened
Even if she wasn’t directly the one who did it it’s freaky enough to know she likely orchestrated it lol
Not that I mind too much
Same with Arle’s character since it’s actually more consistent in hindsight (and I prefer her demeanor as it is compared to if she was a total psycho)
My only issue is there’s some
Better clarification that is due with the a Knave’s goons
Namely how and why Signora’s death would’ve even benefitted her at all
Since even in Lazzo she was noticeably upset over it and makes her thoughts line up about her in her profile
But the Knave goons treated it as if they could yake advantage of her death to elevate the Knave’s status further
If this was the former Knave than it’d check out but it wouldn’t make any sense if she initiated her goons to do this
But it’s been way too long since that Inazuma WQ I barely remember it
How about trying Honkai Impact 3rd? From what i hear they got playables that have some the following:
||One character just straight up committed genocide multiple times and killed other characters then didn't bother to redeem herself, another playable character nearly turned an entire city of innocent people into monsters (nearly because the device she was using got relocated by someone else), another frequently performed human experimentation, another character started an actual world war and wiped out billions of people, etc.||

Man, HI3's plot is so messy tho 
Feels like the first draft of an HSR story... and that's coming as someone that doesn't care for the majority of HSR's story
The only thing i am interested in Sandrone for is Alain
Need to know the fate of the final Fontaine Institute member
Venti also like to play instrument and he likely has connection to Istaroth 
istaroth also seems to send a child of hers to help lonely people
like with old mondsdadt or enkanomiya
maybe venti is a child of istaroth ?
anyways
i didnt expect teyvat to suddenly become LOTR
ngl
The world of Teyvat reformed and reshaped by a ... song ?
is phanes secretly eru illuvatar ?
I tried playing it for like an hour and got bored, I'll be honest
Also was unlucky enough to get the card(?) with the most revealing art on it and it made me uncomfortable to think there'd be more after I'd collect
I mean,all region main battle theme have Photon of Fluctuation in them,which means Light of Change
do yall think Gold helped Nicole become a Human ?

Nicole wasn't a human beforehand?
she was a seelie
Changing your species or appearing as another one is prohibited on Teyvat
Unless you are a god or adepti
You aren’t alone there lol
Jake isn’t kidding when he said the story is a “mess” bc even going through game order alone is sadly not even the ideal way to experience the story 
Dunno about that artwork you saw, but it def was relatively raunchier several years back before they had to dial down loads of the fanservice years later due to certain obvious regulations. But even then to each their own.
Yeah, I wasn't very keen on seeing a teen's down there silhouetted through their underwear on what was essentially a buff for characters I'd probably have to look at and swap around decently often
that loosely sounds like Kiana’s main starter outfit at the beginning
But imo it’s my least fave of her many battle suits one would get alone the way anyways
Esp compared to
it's whatever the three-part card thingy was
yeah
Yeah, you ever see those Monogatari watch order series? HI3's is that on steroids if you want to actually follow wtf is happening in the story 
All the manga and side events and other media they feel the need to include pretty damn important main story bits behind is ridiculous
Childe birthday letter is about nod krai too
he is in natlan oddly enough
but the palestar edict ignoring childe is... interesting
unless this birthday letter was written before he the edict was issued
I haven't played genshin for a long time but i still remember the big stage from one of the quests (fontaine most probably)
is the stage connected to the movie "Prestige"?
Not specifically, no, though there are similarities between the two
Thank you
I'm watching the prestige rn and i had a deja vu from seeing the stage
It’s not so much ignoring Childe I’d say
All Harbingers will be brought over to NK, but Childe’s role prolly isn’t going to be as highlighted as the others since they’re saving him for Stuzha even more me thinks
Isnt Stuzha the stealing skies thing
Dottore definitely needs Arle blood for burning down Irminsul
Is there any more info on Stuzha
We don't know what Stuzha is atm
"Severe cold" in Russian
Hmm
Arle's story quest is still the only mention of it so far
Tsaritsa’s anger maybe ?
Sneznaya chapter is called Everwinter without mercy after all
Maybe we may not even see Project Stuzha in Nod Krai
It can be her endgame after the fake skies fall and welkin moon ascends
Since when was Sandy involved
I don't think she was mentioned for stuzha during the quest, it was just arle, Childe, pulci, and pant
For... Whatever reason
Arle for 🩸 and 🧒 👧 👦
Dottore for 🧠
Rooster and Pants for 💴
And Childe for moral support
Childe for the legacy he represents, maybe?
Like they have to know he's part of surtologi's legacy considering the foul legacy
Maybe it's something with that
Otherwise yeah, moral support until he kicks ass 
I am getting ineffa quest trailer portion speaking of Her confused with it
Mb
He has Ajax’s fate
Maybe Stuzha has something to do with his constellation
holy fuck i just realized something
phlogiston in genshin
it's a honkai thing 
like with the abyss
i kind of forgot this existed in hsr since i barely ever craft
Can Polka stop killing people
Some argue that fluids found in Penacony’s dreamscape is eerily similar to primordial sea water too
yee
for a game meant to be outside the honkai-sphere, they've sure been adding a lot of connections between the two in worldbuilding 
Amorphus (yes I’m calling it that
) is also just straight up HSR Teyvat too in terms of how the planet functions
BABE
i could tell from the talks of abyss and stuff lol
they aint subtle at all about teyvat being a simulation
I actually prefer she’s not like the rumors say. It lines up with her comments about misconceptions.
ye
but those comments came after her release, so we'd have no idea prior
it makes sense in hindsight but there was definitely a chance for it to all be true too, which would be nice in a game like genshin where there's so much darkness in the worldbuilding and the main story, for the most part, is scrubbed to be so pg/pg-13 friendly
I find the writing mature for the world quests not dark
The Meropide Caterpillar quests are what comes to mind the most
i mean, i'm still hung up on how they talked about child sacrifice and peeling the skin off children in the process of it on tsurumi
and in enka
and the cannibalism in the desert
Oh those
Still mature
and slavery
I completely missed this
they were in notes on the path we took with jeht to find the paradise
and in various caves we find ourselves in are notes left by the survivors who talk about eating one another to survive
Its as close as they could get without making it pity party or too serious which is fine imo
Oh
Now i remember
The cops reminded me of Javier from Les Miserables
So like most teen or young teen cartoons ?
And films
Somewhat edgy but respectfully handling sensitive stuff
so i was wondering what the difference was and googled it and this is the first thing that pops up:
Mature storytelling focuses on complex themes, moral ambiguity, and realistic character development, often exploring profound social issues and the human condition. Dark storytelling, on the other hand, delves into unsettling and often taboo subjects, using elements of suspense, horror, or tragedy to create a disturbing or uneasy atmosphere. While both can overlap, mature stories prioritize depth and complexity, whereas dark stories emphasize intensity and shock value
so what i am talking about is dark
Ah
basically, complexity vs morbidity
jeht's story would be mature storytelling, the worldbuilding as a whole would be dark storytelling
Yes
that's what i am talking about lol
but it's stuff you find within world quests rather than the world quests themselves usually
and it's rarely ever in the quest, moreso in the notes and things scattered around the area a world quest is in
and i was kind of excited to see more of that happen
Where do you find Narzzizzenkreuz quests then
Mature or dark ?
It gets in the way straight onto player’s face
the mature storytelling happening in their individual growth in their journey, but darker storytelling in the past they all shared
which i liked
Looking back natlan didnt have much dark worldbuilding at all
Except for Och Kan’s portions
Of it
So like liyue world quests too
so like half of it
it's been so long, i don't remember liyue world quests at all LOL
Chenyu Vale then
ah
Nah
Och Kan’s portions are relatively small
i'd say that's more mature than dark then, from what i remember
Compared to Sumeru natlan is literally paradise
Ngl
about the changing of the times and encroachment on nature and the status quo
Sumeru after Deshret died was a bloody mess
oh definitely lol
So many wars, slavery, and much much worse
Klementime made an excellent video detailing all of it
Makhaira Aquamarine story is sad
but with och kan and the dragon race, there was slaughter and betrayal, wars that called for the genocide of humanity and then some
Yes
Theres also themes of relinquishing and sacrifice
which ultimately led to their demise thanks to celestia with humanity
but the desert definitely had a lot more that impacted modern day sumeru
Would say it was humanity by itself
but it was celestia that gave them power and changed phlogiston to force the dragons to adapt wasn't it
Kukulkan is still marvelled by humanity despite wanting to end it all
Dragons were forced to adapt to the utterly hostile planet
All throughout teyvat not just natlan
Apep’s boss drops mention the dragon flowers being very large and wild
that's what i was saying lol
Terraforming teyvat made it uninhabitable to Dragons who began regressing
🦋💀
Theres also something to do with their holy soil
Yep those butterflies
Also i wanted to aso
Aks
Ask
Do yall think if
Durin and mini durin being combined is similar to rhine eating naberius
Like balancing the polar opposite traits
Rene tried and failed creating master
New Durin is mini and old durin mixed
Both to balance the traits of the other
Which reminds me
With this info how do you all interpret that one melusine’s remarks on traveller and paimon ?
that she's associated with the sky
The only one before Chenyu Vale and Chasm I remember was some bandit lady in front of some open ruins
i remember the guy who was so traumatized by his parents dying when he was a child that he continued living in a child-like state alone on top of a mountain
but that's about it
i remember that funny dark place with all the pillars had some lore about it but i can't remember the actually story 😭
The only mondstat WQ I remember was the Istaroth ruins stuff
that's practically the only world quest in mondstadt i think lol
the rest are all character stories and things, probably to give the player a feel for the game since it's the starting area
so everything else is mostly lesser quests
but even the time island world quest is barely a world quest with how short it is imo
Fun trivia: Technically the Dainsleif introduction quest is also a Mondstadt world quest 
Hangouts have been abandoned too, it seems
Yeah no
We’re def not getting more after Lynette at this rate 
It's not an interlude??
Razor, my lad 
TL;DR: Early Genshin weird quest coding 
Ohhhh okay
So it's categorized as a world quest, treated like a character story quest, but in actuality it's the beginning of the interlude quests
Funky
Allow me to make you feel old
Remember the “Unseen Razor” daily commission?

Yes
-# I wonder if that NPC ever found it…
Didn't she
She did
They added an extension to it in 3.3 where you find it 👀
Oh you were, just not for that reason specifically
so from Tartaglia's bday we can assume he won't be part of Nod krai 😔
He will be
All the Harbingers will gather there
If anything he’s likely going to have a much bigger role in the aftermath regarding Project Stuzha
i don't know in his bday letter he said we'll meet some of the colorful harbingers and he wished he could see us beat their ass, so I'm assuming he's not going to be there, or doesn't know he is
He’s going to be there
If nothing else his role just isn’t going to be one of the main driving leads as much as other big players like Dottore or Colombina
I mean, saying he hopes he could watch us fight them doesn't necessarily mean he won't be there, he's telling us to be careful but if we fight he'd wanna see it 
Because we've seen previously that all available harbingers are being summoned to nod krai via the videos and web events
Do yall think traveller is not wholly inside teyvat yet ?
like the voyager had to abandon her body to investigate
traveller loses all of their powers (sealed away) before waking up on teyvat
if their whole person was chained to celestia and conciousness / puppet beamed down
slowly understanding what happened to them
before being given the allowance to make the choice PO wants ?
Also, while doing Neuv's anecdote
is there any chance that Gold helped in legitamising the Melusines into Teyvat ?
How so
Because I thought the whole point of seigewinne's quest was to show how he was part of the reason why melusines became accepted by vying for their usefulness and lack of bad intent
Aside from her risking losing her melusine-ness so she'd be accepted and be able to help people medically without them ostracizing her for being a melusine
And he helped create the mareucheusse(?) phantom
No
I meant by Shades and Celestia
She was arrested for that
For trying to become another species
Wasn't she arrested for supposedly took somebody else face, Melusin discrimination was that bad
She scatters dewdrops upon every bloom,
And tints the twilight with a sheen of silver.
Thus do shadows howl across the gloomy woods,
As flocks of deer and birds take fright and shiver.
She hums one nameless tune,
While walking through those solitary halls.
So her homeland may not fall to desolation,
So the tale may not be lost to oblivion.
...
Sandrone.
VARKA SNEAK PEEK
Not a sneak peek, BUT FULL ON LOOK ON VARKA
She scatters dewdrops upon every bloom,
And tints the twilight with a sheen of silver.
Thus do shadows howl across the gloomy woods,
As flocks of deer and birds take fright and shiver.
She hums one nameless tune,
While walking through those solitary halls.
So her homeland may not fall to desolation,
So the tale may not be lost to oblivion.
...
WOAHHHH
quick, but not quick enough lol
Kc
WHAT. THE. FUCK. ALICE.
WANDERER IS THERE AS WELL WITH ALBEDO
Also interesting that Varka canonically uses Wolf's Gravestone
WHAAAAT
WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE TO SHOW ALICE'S FULL MODEL THIS EARLY ON
HYPERBOREA MENTIONED
Yoo hypeee! Varka & Alice finally!
Guessing I should maybe get caught up on my main story backlog 
VARKA IS HOT
I'm surprised that they made him not look like Aventurine that much
I’m very satisfied with Varka
Some facial hair could help but he has a distinct vibe enough for me
Oh looking at the description, the one with the Mondstadt headpiece is Durin
yee
Nicole Reeyn of the Hexenzirkel, codename "N"
"You wish to hear a story of the moon? That tale begins long, long ago..."
Aino
"Mister, Nefer's starting her story already."
Varka
"You're right. I came here for the moon."
#GenshinImpact #NicoleReeyn #Aino #Varka https://t.co/flYxnwkvQQ
yea i thought varka was gonna be older
or at least more seasoned
And it looks like Khoi is back! Hopefully, Paralogism will be fully voiced soon
Isn't that tinted glass scene a clue enough about his appearances?
Oh they revealed Nicole too? I thought the description credit was just for her voice 
which one
oh wait that was N?
The one from Paralogism
THE TRAILER
two hexenzirkel reveals in one video
Yeah I was surprised too. The video didn't make it clear hehe
So we have 3 males so far
oh i dont remember
Can we really call Alice's hat a hat? It's just a metal piece with cloth attached to it and was bent into a shape of hat
Correction: not even a cloth, fucking rubies attached to it.
Dead chat on one of the most shocking lore days ever, smh my head.
It’s midnight 😭
It still look like a hat,hoyo is pretty good at illusion
Also because giving her witch hat would be generic
Klee skin has it
Though,I assume part of her kit transform it into an actual hat
check again
She scatters dewdrops upon every bloom,
And tints the twilight with a sheen of silver.
Thus do shadows howl across the gloomy woods,
As flocks of deer and birds take fright and shiver.
She hums one nameless tune,
While walking through those solitary halls.
So her homeland may not fall to desolation,
So the tale may not be lost to oblivion.
...
@molten crater skip to the end
"in game" not "in trailer"
Timezones

I was hoping they would reveal the English VAs in the description like in Overture & Ignition 
Overall im pretty content with the designs in 2D
only one I don’t care for much is uhh
Johada and Nefer
Idk wtf is going on with Nefer lol
Character visions from the leaks subreddit:
Varka-anemo
Flins-electro
Alice-pyro
Durin-pyro
Nefer-dendro
WAIT
HE ACTUALLY LOOKS NOT BABY
YAY
Also can I just say, I adore columbina's full outfit
Save for the heels
Because like wtf are her heels
Yeah, while not perfect it’s def solid by genshin standards
If he had a lower short beard or at least a 5 o’clock shadow it’d be even more all for it
She's just walking on her tippy toes with a ball floating beneath her heel
Agreed
At least he isn't ayato
And is more like wrio
Dude actually has scars
And looks kinda built
KHOI DAO IS BACK
This beard would have made Varka a 10/10 for me (from Hi3)
But an 8/10 is still very good
Dude it feels so jarring to have alive revealed in the same vein as finding out wanderer is going to be in nod krai with mini durin
They are just straight up putting as many plot points into nod krai as possible 
You reckon they’re prolly gonna take the Amorphus route where every patch is a AQ?
Also one sec
ngl, actually not a fan of Alice's design 
Like wtf is that "hat"
I need to see it from more angles
Otherwise it’s weird yeah
Random aside, I found this comment thread on the reddit post hilarious 
Also I agree with Alice's hat, but I'm sure they were trying to make something that looked entirely unique and magical other than the usual witch hat 
"WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU AND HOW DID YOU DISCOVER MY SECRET LABORATORY??"
It’s prolly gonna look better in model maybe
Also
Nicole looks cute
She looks like that one WuWa character
Oh yeah, saw the image from twitter
Pretty cool we're finally meeting her there, but my interest in the game is kinda whatever atm so...eh
Kinda
She has pyro vision, so very likely to be playable at least
Ngl, she caught me really off guard with her design compared to her voice
Her way of talking in Sumeru/Fontaine felt really reserved/withdrawn. Her design here looks super bubbly/friendly
Agreed
But I'll take it
Because you know what?
Varka does NOT look the way he acts 
A guide must be friendly
And I will happily accept that
oh yeh, no, I love the design (probably my favorite of the teaser after Columbina), just not what I was expecting lol
Ah gotcha lol
I need to hear him laughing to be sure
Anyways, now that we know what varka looks like I shall simp until his arrival
I apologize in advance
Do you like Flins Kc?
True, I hope it's boisterous like a good hearty belly laugh
I think he looks cool but edgy like ororon
Ororon with less vitamin D
He gives me vampire/vampire Hunter vibes
Which idm
I wanna see his personality and play style first before I go in on pulling for him 😭
If this is the graveyard guy, he 100% seems like brooding husbando bait 
^
What Ororon was expected to be until we found out he's a literal man child
Just bought three welkins for varka, wish me luck 
I’m sending this post to a friend

Good luck
Thanks!
I have 77 wishes saved so far and plenty of quests and stuff to do so I'll have plenty for when he comes, I'm just hoping I get lucky 

Actually I’ll post that in #949873006828740698 instead
I used them recently okay 😭
I used to have almost 300
Look, I'm sorry I actually like several characters from each group of patches 
And don't save for entire regions
amateur
Should have like
420 rolls by 5.8
But after seeing Flins?
Citlali is dead to me
So I’ll get Ineffa and Mualani only in that patch
She kept her windup key
Can add lauma to the list with dendro maybe? I can't tell if this is a vision or just part of her design
Yeee
best part of the teaser is us finally getting to see the front of Columbina's outfit so fan artists know wtf to do there 
thought we were going to get an eye reveal for a minute there tho
Is it just me or does her skirt look shorter too
Even the robot’s face changed a bit
I also like that Alice has a mondstadt vision casing
Because she is sitting
Nah if her skirt was as long as the old sketches they’d at least go over her knees a bit
Besides that she’s about the same
Just exposed shoulders
[Genshin]
Genshin JP liked no. presently:
Flins: 115k
Varka: 107k
Durin: 76k
Columbia: 73k
Alice: 69k
Sandrone: 55k
Nefer: 55k
Nicole: 53k
Lauma: 46k
Jahoda: 45k
Aino: 42k
JP seems to really like Varka
Second only to Flins surprisingly
Prolly helps bc of his seiyuu
He’s apparently pretty popular
Flins like look the emo neuvilette of Nod krai so I get it, I will be also pulling for him
his va plays gojo satoru
go figure
Who's rerir again?
wait where
What the fuck i missed so much
Alice’s note
That shes holding in tbe trailer
huh? Which of the three words mean rerir what
solnarri
he is called the ratcher of solnarri
OH
You know, it's a bit ironic that Jean wants Noelle to prioritize herself, but she doesn't prioritize herself either (cmiiw with this lore info)
question is wherees seamus pegg
Dead in a ditch hopefully
Durin my beloved
Ur coming home
It’s been 2 yrs since the last time I feel the genshin hype

To give a thank you letter to dottore
I hope not
"in the water,the future mirror the past" maybe this will be part of NodKrai mechanic, in a puzzle or a world quest and archon quest
Old CBT suggests a similar mechanic,it is a cryo mirror that you can use to teleport
Although it was supposed to be for Snezhaya but who know
Also Natlan Cannon was wrong but the rest has a similar concept
Too much red flag on Dottore
Jesus christ these character designs are cooking hard
Though, Durin is once again not beating the "Mondstadt knight child neglect allegations"
Brother has the wordly knowledge of a 2 year old and they just let his ass walk into a different country that is known for experimenting on shit
NodKrai are known for robbery and scamming
The City atleast
durin is simultaneously a bit older 500, 500 and 1 year old
I mean this version of Durin spent most of its time in a heavily fictionalized version of Mondstadt
No
Its all durin combined iirc
So old durin’s anger and hate and mini durin’s good
Durin burst unleashed his alpha male inside him 
What was your favorite part of the newest trailer
varka aura farm
Colombina Jesus walk
And Wanderer back again
I noticed there was no sign of a Fae in the trailer,which made me believe Bina is likely a fae atp
Nicole maybe cuz of the wings but eh I don't know,form the lore she is more like a seelie
We also don’t see any Treasure Hoarders from the looks of it
Jahoda looks more Clink Clank aligned imo
Durin became a treasure hoarder

But,it could be that Sumeru girl
It is weird but there are no exceptions when it comes to leadership
also ,Varka is looking for the moon and she was there with him for no reason,it kinda makes sense she is part of the treasure hoarder and is helping him
Either way,it is also possible TH won't have an important role but we might know their origin,in a world quest or something
Nefer and alice
That's part of the reason why I think they added that angry dragon ghost after his reveal in the trailer
Could be
Oh wait
I forgot rejected albedo too
The albedo clone
Oh it wasn't regular albedo?
Did he not have the star on his neck
I wasn't looking
Nvm he did
Albedo clone is dead yeah lol
yea i thought we killed the whopperflower
then again it was so long ago i forget
or what was that story about the buried something
damn my memory is ass
Whopperflower was Fake Albedo’s creation
Albedo dealt with the Fake himself in the aftermath of that same event. It was only revealed recently that Albedo killed him offscreen.
was this the 1.x event or 5.x event
1.x right
the 5.x only told us that he killed and buried him?
2.x and 5.x
He fed fake Albedo to durin
And durin became unhinged and erratic from fake albedo’s negative emotions
Ig you are what you eat
Rhine’s abyss dabbling must have harmed her too much that only eating Naberius could counteract that
Man do be on his Piccolo timing. I'll forgive Mihoyo for not giving him a beard
I do hate the leak of him being a dedicated Anemo DPS
Like, bro, we have enough Anemo DPS
Make him an absolutely cracked phys attacker with a swirl modifier for res strip and the attack speed of a normal sword user
I’ll wait till we actually see the kit first
No anemo dps has ever been that alike (save for Heizou arguably)
But that have very high overlapping teams
I want to slot Varka into sth that doesn’t keep him fixed to Bennet Furina and/or Xiangling by the end of the day
ARLE BETTER MAKE AN APPEARANCE
I feel like we had this convo before
But Ms. doesn’t always entail single connotations?
Phrase...
Yeah, basically "Mrs." always means married, while "Ms." leaves it ambiguous
They posted a web link to share a tiny bit more about nod krai as a region
https://hoyo.link/CYuAL8Smi
With a couple of concept pieces and the fact that the region's statue of the seven is COLUMBINA
And it seems, depending on where in nod krai you are, she's trapped in a metal "cage" or she's freely sitting on a crescent moon
Mfw Snez is gonna have two different Statues of Seven 
Esp once we get to mainland Snez
But like
Hiisi island having columbina as the statue sitting on a crescent moon, then the place where you find the fatui's hideout has her trapped in a metal device
The first looks serene and peaceful as a statue and the cage in the second one just makes her look sad and scared while in the exact same pose
Sorry for bad quality, it won't let me open the images on mobile 😭
Tbf, nod krai is supposed to be a standalone thing and not necessarily part of snez
Like it's in snezhnaya, but it isn't "part" of snezhnaya
If you understand what I mean
Like how Portugal is "in" Spain, but it's not "part" of Spain
Yesnt, but the point is more from a meta perspective as the game still acknowledges it as Snez territory whenever it’s talked about by both people that live there or have visited
The more I look at Durin, the more I love him 
Also it seems like that ain’t the mini Durin we all know btw.
Oh, I didn't get that
I got the impression it wasn't necessarily part of snezhnaya but just located in it
It’s mostly just been stated back when Afro merchant guy (Leban?) first talked about it, and that one NPC event where a Nod Krai kid came to Natlan to have us beat up boss monsters for him for reasons I forgot

Ah okay

Well, the actual playables will be are 99% likely be safe
But for all we know Sandrone could be set up as a bait NPC and get cooked…
Hoping playable characters to die in 2025 
I don't want emotional bait story by forcing a death of a character 
Npc death in tighnari quest still made me emotional ,what playable death gonna do more except make the fan angry?
Yeah. Not gonna happen.
They best ditch those hopes
Regardless it’s all in execution. And it doesn’t need to be limited to just a playable if an NPC is just as if not more relevant.
Only Hi3 seems to commit

They get excluded from holiday events in the future 😭
so nibelung tried to raise a fourth moon or xiuhcoatl did
who is this mad monk >?
sao louma is a moon chanter ? hm
No idea, but you know who it'd be cool if it was?
The "self-proclaimed prophet" from Dainsleif's introduction 
I have no reason to connect the two, but would be cool
huh
wait where is it mentioned ??
how many prophets do we know anyway ?
Dainsleif's Character Card from before the game's launch.
Every character has a quote from another character talking about them in their introduction post. The Travelers have K.K., and Dain's is "A self-proclaimed prophet"
oh
So Vedrfolnir 
it could be Irmin too
has it ever been mentioned in game of klee having a father? my friend is trying to convince me of the rumors going around that klee is the by product of varka and alice
Yes, several times, including Klee's character voicelines
About the Parents
My mom and dad are the famousest travelers in Teyvat! Mom writes the Teyvat Travel Guide, so all the restaurants and hotels in the whole world care what she thinks about them.
However anyone claiming Varka's the dad is on major crack lol
Actually would be funny if VARKA was actually Klee’s dad tho

Esp since he’s the closest thing to a major renown male “adventurer” similar to Alice’s rep that we know of
Imagine the meltdowns that would cause
holy shit
The funny thing is that it’s stretch to say this is a mere coincidence since like
Not only to the pieces ‘fit’
But the segments match shockingly well too
Esp the ring out the outer moon split into three-four segments
lmaoo thats a stretch
Nah, there could be worse
Hoyo’s no stranger to adding intention with their imagery throughout these past few years even with subtlety
Just look at the domain murals long representing the shades and the PO even prior to Before Sun & Moon was accessible ingame
As well as artifact pieces themselves
the eternal moon broke, another sunk, the last one is lifeless and still
tracks with the present resin
also
notice how all of them depict a tree in them
True
Her feet have reflection tho
Also, we are viewing her from over where her reflection should be


