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odd thicket
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where ? there are no explicit implications

lilac coral
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Skimming over what I missed, does this mean that one person who said time travel would be how we get the Kheanri'ah chapter (from the teyvat travail) was right lol

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Like 4 years ago

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but time travel doesnt and shouldnt exist if paradoxes are indeed prohibited on Teyvat

odd thicket
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I suppose the only hint we have is in the first scene of the trailer

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Istaroth / Vedrfornir can change and grant history to beings

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Surtologi/ Asmoday can corrupt and alter properties of life within their space

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But Rhine created those people…

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Skirk could not remove the curse of immortality but could stabilise the beaten human body

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Maybe Surtologi treats the body as a domain and super imposes his logic over PO’s for the body alone ?

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xilonen anecdote is funny

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So charlotte anecdote has her plan to move to nod krai soon

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again callin it Elysium

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so more from her anecdote with chiori:

Nod Krai is freezing cold but also a hub of congregation for all sorts of people much like mondsdadt

sweet dune
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But the insider info points to ||Neuv getting a dragon themed skin for lantern rite instead||

sweet dune
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i mean so far it has been 5* + 4*

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so they can both exist together

odd thicket
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They reserve skins for their popular characters

sweet dune
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Skins don't necessarily have common lore bases

sweet dune
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sweet dune
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You really think nilou or kirara are popular?

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sweet dune
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at least Charlotte has usage bcz cryo healer

sweet dune
odd thicket
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No not like that

odd thicket
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Thing

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Its the so pretty i wanna pull for that alone thing

sweet dune
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Neuvi would be first lore imp person to get skin, right?

odd thicket
sweet dune
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right now it's all relatively normal people

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sweet dune
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but normal people category compared to archons/dragons?

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odd thicket
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She is somehow related to Homa who in turn is related to Ronova

sly bison
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Wanderer skin pls A_HuSleep

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sly bison
sweet dune
sly bison
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You might as well say Furina has more of a skin than Wanderer A_HuKek

odd thicket
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They want to sell skins after all
Better sell them for characters whose players will buy the cosmetic

sweet dune
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And i guess the timing wouldn't sit

odd thicket
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Yeah

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5.8 has Bennett and Yelan

sly bison
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Wanderer should’ve gotten a skin in 4.8 smh

sweet dune
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nod krai is sept and lantern rite is jan

reef axle
sweet dune
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two skins won't be back to back

odd thicket
sly bison
sweet dune
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hoyo give us old event stories 😭

odd thicket
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Tbh the fontaine 4* are not that popular to the level of Kirara

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Layla might get a skin sometime
Or funny enough, the natlan 4* men

odd thicket
sly bison
reef axle
odd thicket
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I think other than Jean, Barbara, the only character to get a skin shortly after release is Kirara

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Third square: could be
Fourth square: he want to be a bootleg Descender...?
Fifth square: only one nail left
Sixth square: how can Dottore maximize Columbina's power?
Seventh square: who? (Like seriously)
Eighth square: could be
Ninth square: the leak about Tsaritsa's back lol

queen prawn
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Varka isn't trying to be a Descender, Descender true purpose was never to record history

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queen prawn
odd thicket
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it was the fallen principal of the last darshan in the desert

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i forgor their name

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but iirc no sinner was ever involved in any of the cataclysm period battles

spark portal
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Unique story npc

odd thicket
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bakunawa is gold's creation

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so nod krai's hisi island still uses first civ structures

spark portal
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Is that really Tsaritsa?

odd thicket
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shes also dendro

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Also; we are only getting an appetiser portion of Mare Jivari

queen prawn
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She look like one of the character in a new anime this season

stoic spade
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eh, i'll pass, the cut of that dress looks horrible

queen prawn
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This thing look like it gonna create a barrier or explosion

stoic spade
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looks like the thiing in sumeru desert

queen prawn
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It is kinda like a mirror

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Which explain why the top part is incomplete like a reflection

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I would think it is the fake sky but iirc the place isn’t that high

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Actually,i think the entire frostmoon is in a protective barrier

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Maybe that’s why fatui is struggling to “rescue” bina

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@odd thicket @lilac coral @queen prawn HOLY SHIT

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NOD KRAI TEASER IS OUT

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queen prawn
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Teaser next week

odd thicket
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The actual teaser is expected on Wednesday or Friday

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queen prawn
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Possibly guardian of frostmoon

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As an enemy

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Not just 6.0, but 6.X

worldly rain
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Looks a bit similar to geo saurian possibly nod krai version for exploration mech?

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odd thicket
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Absolutely draconic though

queen prawn
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Hoyo doesn’t reuse the same exploration mechanic

worldly rain
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That's true

queen prawn
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This one look more like natlan dragon

worldly rain
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We'll see then but they have to bring something for exploration especially after natlan they can't just go back

queen prawn
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Of course,maybe teleportation mechanic

worldly rain
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A little we saw from teaser the new character could transform? Into the deer so something like that?

queen prawn
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Or riding horse

worldly rain
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They said they'll expand mare jivari in future updates wonder how they'll go into that..

lilac coral
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Ghost centaur

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worldly rain
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Nod krai looks exciting ngl
Next week for proper teaser

lilac coral
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I can't watch the stream for another like 4 hours since I got a drive home, but I'm hyped to see it hyperyay

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Okay bye

queen prawn
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Look like frost moon people can transform

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No wonder Fatui is struggling to find bina

worldly rain
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Traveler certainly should get something similar then

queen prawn
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Ineffa kinda teased it too,her arm is from a nodkrai faction,which can turn into weapon or a broom

queen prawn
worldly rain
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Oh definitely need something new can't reuse old tech
But we'll see how they wanna go into that

queen prawn
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Ah,you meant traveler kit,||traveler can only use new reaction||

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worldly rain
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I meant as in traveler will get indwelling equivalent of nod krai yes

queen prawn
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Asha could be a testing mechanic?

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And that new physic minigame event

odd thicket
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Traveller allegedly had 3 old elements buffed by lunar reactions

worldly rain
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Personally I hope they don't go as far as they did with natlan
and keep the difference between nod krai vs non nod krai characters exploration fairly close in experience

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Like saurian were good conceptually but the execution was lacking
Especially when you compare it to playable characters

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So hopefully they don't go too far this time and keep exploration to environment mostly

queen prawn
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All region character have their own gimmick,since Natlan took the exploration,Nodkrai will focus on element reaction

queen prawn
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Dendri wasn’t that big of a deal since it is a completely new element

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But nodkrai reuse old elements but add new reaction

worldly rain
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I'm still hoping we'll get new reaction for all characters
Just that ineffa type characters will get something extra like "direct lunar charge dmg" to separate them from the old cast

queen prawn
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So that is the difference

worldly rain
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It's like getting bloom for all but bountiful bloom only for nilou
So something like that but we'll see how they go with new reaction

queen prawn
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Unless a certain character blesses old characters with that power

worldly rain
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Adding new reaction to then limit it to new characters only and if you don't pull you don't get anything
It's similar to nilou I guess but we still got other dendro reaction for other characters
I'm not sure how I would feel if lunar reaction are only for new characters...
I'll still pull for someone I like but yeah

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any of the 7 elements get a lunar reaction

queen prawn
odd thicket
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Luama - Dendro - ???
Ineffa - Electro - EC
Columbina - Hydro - presumably all lunar
Aino - ???
Durin - ???
6.0 Male - Electro / Cryo

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odd thicket
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Ineffa did more dpr than Escoffier and near Emilie

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Actually after the reaction dmg stat and calc

odd thicket
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i think more than emilie

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she had to get nerfed for it

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her signature set likely pushes her even further

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anyway
Ineffa is genuinely strong

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she brought Cyno to above 70k

worldly rain
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Ineffa also don't have her "kinich" nor does she have her artifact
I'm sure she'll be fine once both happens

queen prawn
odd thicket
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Either way, I have no hope that mew reaction are available for the rest

odd thicket
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6.0 male is now cryo

worldly rain
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I'm not trusting leaks atp E_OMEGARAZOR

odd thicket
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but it can be electro too

queen prawn
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Since ineffa can only use it because of the || moon fragment she possesses||

odd thicket
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it would be odd if two nod krai characters shared teh same reaction

worldly rain
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But yeah ineffa last I saw was better than emily

odd thicket
worldly rain
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Unlike burn that doesn't do anything lunar charge actually does dmg
And if the new artifact buff that then she'll do even more

queen prawn
odd thicket
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also it being a creation of gold was a surprise

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so in order of age,
Bakunawa
Durin
Elynas
Albedo ?

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odd thicket
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unless she used moon for it too

worldly rain
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Wait where was it said durin was ||made using bakunawa||

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queen prawn
odd thicket
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paralogism

odd thicket
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so he is immortal

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also

queen prawn
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Also if she can make a monster immortal and can regenerate everytime then the rest should be the same imo

worldly rain
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Uh I'll have to go back and re read I guess

odd thicket
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Bakunawa is shin godzilla

queen prawn
queen prawn
worldly rain
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Oh okay I remember now

queen prawn
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Who is the one helping with Bakunawa fight again

odd thicket
queen prawn
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Ah

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I think it was the sword,not citlali right

odd thicket
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Citlali gave it to us

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Its the calamity of eshu

dense moss
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oh so uba says this are even more baby than the usual baby models damn i didn't even notice

stoic spade
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It’s like if paimon walked around

odd thicket
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Also can it be any less brighter

dense moss
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idk ask whoever took the screenshot it wasn't me

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i just stole it

sly bison
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If anything this kid looks more developed than the likes of Klee or Qiqi

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Esp with the longer and thinner legs

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Will prolly need a side by side comparison to better tell

patent cloud
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wait they straight up said benny's constellation was in mare jivari???
the hell is that about

sly bison
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Even from the first Windblume event

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It’s implied Venti knew too I’d say

worldly rain
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It was said that he was found in an area where strong winds blew
But since in mare jivari winds didn't blow
I didn't think that bennet is actually from mare jivari and it was probably red herring
But now they've shown that there are two version of mare jivari one with the winds and other without
And Bennett is also confirmed to be from there as well now

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Wonder what's that about there being two version of mare jivari

sly bison
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Cuz now both will be true

odd thicket
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ever since then its been an anomalous place

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also
mare jivari being underground tallies with Kinich's Hill of Silent Crickets

worldly rain
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Hmm
They said they're going to expand mare jivari in further updates
I wonder if it's like expanded world quest type thing where they continue mare jivari story for multiple updates alongside main story of nod krai

odd thicket
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do yall think the underground people were khaenrianhs ?

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the mare jivari we get is a mere teaser]

worldly rain
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What I know for now is that mare jivari of 1000 years old the one where wanderers troupe went
And mare jivari 500 years ago with sanhaj doing his thing
That's the two version then of mer jivari I assume yeah?

odd thicket
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yes

worldly rain
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Alright there's also some time anomaly there I think
Let's see where this goes then

odd thicket
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dont forget the lava walker

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too

reef axle
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It wasnt said he was found in an area where strong winds blew

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Only that the adventurer passed through those on the way

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A predicament that had all but swallowed an old adventurer.

The scorching flames scalded his skin, the deafening thunder almost ruptured his eardrums, and the hollering winds threatened to rip his soul from him.

At the end of his hellish journey, what awaited him was... a baby.

The old adventurer thought he was the first living thing to pass through this arduous ordeal. But how could he explain that which lay before him?

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It's possible they passed through lava/windy Natlan on the way to it

odd thicket
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mare jivari as described in 5.0 and 5.1 and 5.2 had anomalous weather with roaring winds, still days, sky high flames

worldly rain
odd thicket
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anyways
it seems that the trio of quests we have next patch will be the most important in understanding the background of visions, constellations and leylines

worldly rain
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Scorching flames, deafening thunder etc all are places before he found Bennett then
And the actual place doesn't seem to have any description

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worldly rain
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And hey what do you know all of it hit the mark anyway E_pepelol

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Ngl I was so sure it's gonna be another mona from Fontaine situation but this is fine too

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worldly rain
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It's also the way her en voice spoke that made it more believable ngl

reef axle
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For me it was how out of place/how much help she needed navigating and getting a place in Mondstadt

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Felt less like a local returning home and more like a new arrival getting their footing

worldly rain
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That too yeah fischl also helping her around

reef axle
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Also how no one in Mondstadt has old memories of her KEK

lilac coral
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Watching the stream now and I gotta say, depending on how they go about it, the new summer area might just feel as refreshingly chill as the first gaa

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And I'm really hoping it is

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It looks fun and cute and summery

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Vs the heavy story of gaa2, the convolutedness of the mirage, or the jam packed layers to the storybook (albeit I at least really liked that one)

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Wait, they aren't going to show the phase 2 banners????

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Is this the first time they're doing this

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I can't immediately think of another time where they only showed phase 1 and not phase 2 banner 5*s

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Also finally, a permanent summer area kleePray

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lilac coral
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Oh, that is weird

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I thought it was going to genuinely be some secret special banner or something

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Lame

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Anyway, thank you Jake

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I shall continue to save my primos sleepycomfy

sly bison
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Citlali and Ineffa on first half

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Ineffa will still be roaming the overworld after this Quest until Traveler and Paimon head to Nod Krai proper

lilac coral
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Slowly implementing the recent events then, where you just talk to the characters in the overworld

sly bison
lilac coral
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I saw

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Also

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And now that I've woken back up, I'm watching the rest of the stream and mare jivari finally being released kleePray

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Though, from the stream it almost looks like it's just empty with only an arena for the new boss

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I hope that's not the case

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And that there's exploration in it

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Oh I should've kept watching they talk about why it's such a small area in 5.8 A_WheezeTao

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Also, released in future patch_es_??

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It's going to be released in multiple patches alongside nod krai? Interesting

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Yelan's hair looks gorgeous in this outfit, goddamn 😭

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And the dress is beautiful too

sly bison
lilac coral
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Eula doesn't have that hairstyle though

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She has the regular bangs that go between the eyes

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Instead of over and covering one with open parts at the bottom

sly bison
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That’s how she hides her work

lilac coral
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Her work?

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Also our first actual look at nod krai's in-game appearance

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It doesn't look at cold and white as I thought, since there's green grass to the left

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Maybe the further you go the colder and icier it gets?

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I thought the desk mat looked really fucking nice in the stream so I went to go and check it out on the secret lab site

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It's fucking $129

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FOR A DESK PAD

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A DESK PAD

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Made of fake leather

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I've never been happier to have my $30 desk pad I got with fontaine others on it 😭

odd thicket
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Charlotte and Chiori anecdote says as much

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Too

lilac coral
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i don't have a base for how expensive gaming chairs are since i just sit at my dining room table with my regular wooden chair

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i assumed they were expensive though

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but not a desk mat

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the price of the fucking deskmat is about as much as a new used phone 😭

sly bison
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Who’s gonna do Bennet’s hangout before 5.8 drops

lilac coral
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you haven't done it yet?

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if you told someone in 1.x that this is how characters could look in the future do you think they'd believe it lol

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like i agree, it's a glow up and especially with the small new details they've added to new characters like skirk and dahlia that give it that little "oomph" like dynamic shading on the face from the hair

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alongside all the new little details they've put into designs like more edges and things (her bangs being cut in a lot and faded to show the eye unerneath instead of fully opaque, a lot more detailed clothing, etc)

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oh shit i just realized

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the genshin specialist video should be out soon for natlan

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if it isn't already

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one more month probably kleePray

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i wanna see who they turn into an eldritch horror this time

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or not eldritch horror but who they make levitate/t-pose/etc

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lilac coral
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but would he be too obvious?

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maybe kachina

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lilac coral
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the genshin specialist dance video

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this one was before natlan released, they should be making one for before nod krai releases

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reef axle
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@lilac coral So apparently Sandrone spoke in the version trailer 👀

lilac coral
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She did!

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lilac coral
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She mentioned the dragon technology

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And she will be one of the masterminds in nod krai it seems A_HuLurk

reef axle
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The hmph is giving me major brat energy KEK

lilac coral
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My friend is psyched

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Gonna add a new one to the repertoire?

reef axle
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I mean, she is one of the harbingers ive been interested in, yeh

lilac coral
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Oh okay

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I can't wait to see her in-game though

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And bob

reef axle
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Her, Columbina, Pierro and Dottore are the Harbingers I actually care about KEK

lilac coral
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I think, at this rate, columbina and pierro are the only ones I'm interested in for the story behind them, but sandrone I care about because she seems like a posh boss and I wanna see that lol

reef axle
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At least Sandrone canonically has some f'd up stuff she's done (ripping out tongues and whatnkt)

lilac coral
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Hopefully, if not columbina lol

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And at this point I'm not holding out too much hope for her to have actually done those fucked up things considering how they retconned/subverted things with arle

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Like arlecchino was built up to be this mega villain who destroys villages and steals children for the orphanages, raising them to be spies and warriors for the entire army that the tsaritsa is building- only for her to be released and she doesn't seem to actively do that and uses the hearth as a sanctuary and base for intelligence work than intentionally going out and burning towns to the ground and brainwashing children to be fatui soldiers like we were led to believe with the inazuma quest

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Or the "they'll kill me" thing turning out to be "she actually just makes you drink a potion that makes you forget everything so your old persona is what's killed and not your physical body"

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I can imagine them doing something similar with sandrone, especially if she's meant to be playable

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Like the tongue thing being a rumor, or that the person it was done to did something horrible (unless there's context, I can't remember)

sly bison
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But tbh i feel Sandrone is being too ‘hyped’ over her sanity already by some folks

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She’s a very sour and snarky recluse that keeps to herself

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But that’s it

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Besides it’s not like being implied to removing someone’s tongue is that outlandish compared to what we see Arle do already

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Stabbing her soles into someone’s skull and wiping the blood off afterwards

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Worst I can maybe expect from Sandrone is that maybe she’ll have a crash out trantrum A_HuKek

lilac coral
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😭

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I mean yeah, that's why I don't have much hope

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They could turn around and just find an excuse for stuff

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But it'd be nice to have an actually unhinged villain that appears for more than 60 seconds of screentime dottore

sly bison
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Even if she wasn’t directly the one who did it it’s freaky enough to know she likely orchestrated it lol

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Not that I mind too much

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Same with Arle’s character since it’s actually more consistent in hindsight (and I prefer her demeanor as it is compared to if she was a total psycho)

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My only issue is there’s some
Better clarification that is due with the a Knave’s goons

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Namely how and why Signora’s death would’ve even benefitted her at all

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Since even in Lazzo she was noticeably upset over it and makes her thoughts line up about her in her profile

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But the Knave goons treated it as if they could yake advantage of her death to elevate the Knave’s status further

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If this was the former Knave than it’d check out but it wouldn’t make any sense if she initiated her goons to do this

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But it’s been way too long since that Inazuma WQ I barely remember it

sly bison
# lilac coral But it'd be nice to have an actually unhinged villain that appears for more than...

How about trying Honkai Impact 3rd? From what i hear they got playables that have some the following:

||One character just straight up committed genocide multiple times and killed other characters then didn't bother to redeem herself, another playable character nearly turned an entire city of innocent people into monsters (nearly because the device she was using got relocated by someone else), another frequently performed human experimentation, another character started an actual world war and wiped out billions of people, etc.||

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The only thing i am interested in Sandrone for is Alain

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Need to know the fate of the final Fontaine Institute member

odd thicket
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Notice how this colour scheme is similar to istaroth’s crown

queen prawn
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Venti also like to play instrument and he likely has connection to Istaroth C_HuPepeSmile

odd thicket
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like with old mondsdadt or enkanomiya

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maybe venti is a child of istaroth ?

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anyways

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i didnt expect teyvat to suddenly become LOTR

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ngl

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The world of Teyvat reformed and reshaped by a ... song ?

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is phanes secretly eru illuvatar ?

lilac coral
queen prawn
queen prawn
lilac coral
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Nicole wasn't a human beforehand?

odd thicket
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she was a seelie

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Changing your species or appearing as another one is prohibited on Teyvat

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Unless you are a god or adepti

sly bison
# lilac coral I tried playing it for like an hour and got bored, I'll be honest Also was unl...

You aren’t alone there lol

Jake isn’t kidding when he said the story is a “mess” bc even going through game order alone is sadly not even the ideal way to experience the story A_HuKek

Dunno about that artwork you saw, but it def was relatively raunchier several years back before they had to dial down loads of the fanservice years later due to certain obvious regulations. But even then to each their own.

lilac coral
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Yeah, I wasn't very keen on seeing a teen's down there silhouetted through their underwear on what was essentially a buff for characters I'd probably have to look at and swap around decently often

sly bison
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A_ThinkTao that loosely sounds like Kiana’s main starter outfit at the beginning

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But imo it’s my least fave of her many battle suits one would get alone the way anyways

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Esp compared to

lilac coral
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it's whatever the three-part card thingy was

sly bison
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In cooler news

odd thicket
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yeah

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reef axle
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All the manga and side events and other media they feel the need to include pretty damn important main story bits behind is ridiculous

odd thicket
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Childe birthday letter is about nod krai too

sweet dune
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yeah

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he's not assigned there :(

odd thicket
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but the palestar edict ignoring childe is... interesting

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unless this birthday letter was written before he the edict was issued

rustic lantern
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I haven't played genshin for a long time but i still remember the big stage from one of the quests (fontaine most probably)
is the stage connected to the movie "Prestige"?

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sly bison
lilac coral
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ye, since him and arle and i forgot who else is part of it

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pants and pulci?

odd thicket
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Dottore definitely needs Arle blood for burning down Irminsul

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Is there any more info on Stuzha

odd thicket
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And Sandrone

reef axle
odd thicket
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What does it mean irl anyway

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That word

reef axle
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"Severe cold" in Russian

odd thicket
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Hmm

reef axle
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Arle's story quest is still the only mention of it so far

odd thicket
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Tsaritsa’s anger maybe ?
Sneznaya chapter is called Everwinter without mercy after all

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Maybe we may not even see Project Stuzha in Nod Krai

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It can be her endgame after the fake skies fall and welkin moon ascends

sly bison
lilac coral
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I don't think she was mentioned for stuzha during the quest, it was just arle, Childe, pulci, and pant

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For... Whatever reason

sly bison
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Arle for 🩸 and 🧒 👧 👦
Dottore for 🧠
Rooster and Pants for 💴
And Childe for moral support

lilac coral
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Childe for the legacy he represents, maybe?

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Like they have to know he's part of surtologi's legacy considering the foul legacy

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Maybe it's something with that

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Otherwise yeah, moral support until he kicks ass kekw

odd thicket
odd thicket
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Maybe Stuzha has something to do with his constellation

odd thicket
lilac coral
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i think i focused way more on the name "anya" than that entire line of text

lilac coral
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holy fuck i just realized something

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phlogiston in genshin

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it's a honkai thing A_WheezeTao

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like with the abyss

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i kind of forgot this existed in hsr since i barely ever craft

dense moss
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Can Polka stop killing people

sly bison
lilac coral
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yee

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for a game meant to be outside the honkai-sphere, they've sure been adding a lot of connections between the two in worldbuilding kekw

sly bison
lilac coral
lilac coral
dense moss
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they aint subtle at all about teyvat being a simulation

lost quail
lilac coral
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ye

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but those comments came after her release, so we'd have no idea prior
it makes sense in hindsight but there was definitely a chance for it to all be true too, which would be nice in a game like genshin where there's so much darkness in the worldbuilding and the main story, for the most part, is scrubbed to be so pg/pg-13 friendly

odd thicket
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The Meropide Caterpillar quests are what comes to mind the most

lilac coral
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i mean, i'm still hung up on how they talked about child sacrifice and peeling the skin off children in the process of it on tsurumi

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and in enka

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and the cannibalism in the desert

odd thicket
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Oh those
Still mature

lilac coral
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and slavery

odd thicket
lilac coral
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they were in notes on the path we took with jeht to find the paradise

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and in various caves we find ourselves in are notes left by the survivors who talk about eating one another to survive

odd thicket
lilac coral
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also with dottore's hospital

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and those scrawlings on the wall

odd thicket
lilac coral
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about torture and wishing for death

odd thicket
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And films

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Somewhat edgy but respectfully handling sensitive stuff

lilac coral
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so i was wondering what the difference was and googled it and this is the first thing that pops up:

Mature storytelling focuses on complex themes, moral ambiguity, and realistic character development, often exploring profound social issues and the human condition. Dark storytelling, on the other hand, delves into unsettling and often taboo subjects, using elements of suspense, horror, or tragedy to create a disturbing or uneasy atmosphere. While both can overlap, mature stories prioritize depth and complexity, whereas dark stories emphasize intensity and shock value

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so what i am talking about is dark

odd thicket
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Ah

lilac coral
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basically, complexity vs morbidity

odd thicket
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Lynette’s story is mature

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Arle’s not as much

lilac coral
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jeht's story would be mature storytelling, the worldbuilding as a whole would be dark storytelling

lilac coral
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that's what i am talking about lol

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but it's stuff you find within world quests rather than the world quests themselves usually

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and it's rarely ever in the quest, moreso in the notes and things scattered around the area a world quest is in

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and i was kind of excited to see more of that happen

odd thicket
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Where do you find Narzzizzenkreuz quests then

Mature or dark ?

lilac coral
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a little bit of both i believe

odd thicket
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It gets in the way straight onto player’s face

lilac coral
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the mature storytelling happening in their individual growth in their journey, but darker storytelling in the past they all shared

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which i liked

odd thicket
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Looking back natlan didnt have much dark worldbuilding at all

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Except for Och Kan’s portions

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Of it

odd thicket
lilac coral
lilac coral
lilac coral
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ah

odd thicket
lilac coral
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i'd say that's more mature than dark then, from what i remember

odd thicket
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Compared to Sumeru natlan is literally paradise
Ngl

lilac coral
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about the changing of the times and encroachment on nature and the status quo

odd thicket
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Sumeru after Deshret died was a bloody mess

lilac coral
odd thicket
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So many wars, slavery, and much much worse

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Klementime made an excellent video detailing all of it

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Makhaira Aquamarine story is sad

lilac coral
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but with och kan and the dragon race, there was slaughter and betrayal, wars that called for the genocide of humanity and then some

odd thicket
lilac coral
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which ultimately led to their demise thanks to celestia with humanity

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but the desert definitely had a lot more that impacted modern day sumeru

odd thicket
lilac coral
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but it was celestia that gave them power and changed phlogiston to force the dragons to adapt wasn't it

odd thicket
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Kukulkan is still marvelled by humanity despite wanting to end it all

odd thicket
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All throughout teyvat not just natlan

lilac coral
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yeah

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because of celestia wasn't it?

odd thicket
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Apep’s boss drops mention the dragon flowers being very large and wild

odd thicket
#

This was covered back in Enka

lilac coral
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that's what i was saying lol

odd thicket
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Terraforming teyvat made it uninhabitable to Dragons who began regressing

reef axle
odd thicket
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Theres also something to do with their holy soil

odd thicket
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Also i wanted to aso

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Aks

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Ask

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Do yall think if

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Durin and mini durin being combined is similar to rhine eating naberius

lilac coral
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maybe

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we'll have to see

odd thicket
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Like balancing the polar opposite traits

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Rene tried and failed creating master

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New Durin is mini and old durin mixed

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Both to balance the traits of the other

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Which reminds me

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With this info how do you all interpret that one melusine’s remarks on traveller and paimon ?

lilac coral
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that she's associated with the sky

sly bison
lilac coral
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i remember the guy who was so traumatized by his parents dying when he was a child that he continued living in a child-like state alone on top of a mountain

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but that's about it

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i remember that funny dark place with all the pillars had some lore about it but i can't remember the actually story 😭

sly bison
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The only mondstat WQ I remember was the Istaroth ruins stuff

lilac coral
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that's practically the only world quest in mondstadt i think lol

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the rest are all character stories and things, probably to give the player a feel for the game since it's the starting area

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so everything else is mostly lesser quests

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but even the time island world quest is barely a world quest with how short it is imo

reef axle
sly bison
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Good old year one Jenshin

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I remember when 4* characters had SQs

white nimbus
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Hangouts have been abandoned too, it seems

sly bison
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Yeah no

We’re def not getting more after Lynette at this rate A_HuKek

lilac coral
reef axle
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TL;DR: Early Genshin weird quest coding KEK

lilac coral
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Ohhhh okay

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So it's categorized as a world quest, treated like a character story quest, but in actuality it's the beginning of the interlude quests

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Funky

sly bison
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Remember the “Unseen Razor” daily commission?

lilac coral
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Yes

sly bison
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-# I wonder if that NPC ever found it…

lilac coral
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Didn't she

reef axle
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She did

reef axle
lilac coral
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Okay so I wasn't going crazy

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Thanks jake

reef axle
stoic spade
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so from Tartaglia's bday we can assume he won't be part of Nod krai 😔

sly bison
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All the Harbingers will gather there

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If anything he’s likely going to have a much bigger role in the aftermath regarding Project Stuzha

stoic spade
sly bison
lilac coral
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Because we've seen previously that all available harbingers are being summoned to nod krai via the videos and web events

odd thicket
#

Do yall think traveller is not wholly inside teyvat yet ?

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like the voyager had to abandon her body to investigate

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traveller loses all of their powers (sealed away) before waking up on teyvat

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if their whole person was chained to celestia and conciousness / puppet beamed down

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slowly understanding what happened to them

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before being given the allowance to make the choice PO wants ?

odd thicket
#

Also, while doing Neuv's anecdote

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is there any chance that Gold helped in legitamising the Melusines into Teyvat ?

lilac coral
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How so

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Because I thought the whole point of seigewinne's quest was to show how he was part of the reason why melusines became accepted by vying for their usefulness and lack of bad intent

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Aside from her risking losing her melusine-ness so she'd be accepted and be able to help people medically without them ostracizing her for being a melusine

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And he helped create the mareucheusse(?) phantom

odd thicket
odd thicket
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For trying to become another species

queen prawn
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Wasn't she arrested for supposedly took somebody else face, Melusin discrimination was that bad

spark portal
#

She scatters dewdrops upon every bloom,
And tints the twilight with a sheen of silver.

Thus do shadows howl across the gloomy woods,
As flocks of deer and birds take fright and shiver.

She hums one nameless tune,
While walking through those solitary halls.

So her homeland may not fall to desolation,
So the tale may not be lost to oblivion.

...

▶ Play video
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Sandrone.

#

VARKA SNEAK PEEK

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Not a sneak peek, BUT FULL ON LOOK ON VARKA

median elm
#

WOAHHHH

reef axle
median elm
#

DURINNN

spark portal
#

WHAT. THE. FUCK. ALICE.

reef axle
#

Graveyard dude seems like husbando bait KEK

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I see many obsessing over him

spark portal
median elm
#

OMG

#

WE FEASTING

reef axle
#

Also interesting that Varka canonically uses Wolf's Gravestone

median elm
#

WHAAAAT

spark portal
#

WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE TO SHOW ALICE'S FULL MODEL THIS EARLY ON

median elm
#

HYPERBOREA MENTIONED

white nimbus
#

Yoo hypeee! Varka & Alice finally!

reef axle
#

Guessing I should maybe get caught up on my main story backlog KEK

median elm
#

VARKA IS HOT

spark portal
sly bison
#

I’m very satisfied with Varka

reef axle
#

Alice's outfit is... interesting to say the least lol

#

not sure how I feel about it

sly bison
#

Some facial hair could help but he has a distinct vibe enough for me

white nimbus
#

Oh looking at the description, the one with the Mondstadt headpiece is Durin

reef axle
#

yee

spark portal
median elm
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or at least more seasoned

white nimbus
#

And it looks like Khoi is back! Hopefully, Paralogism will be fully voiced soon

spark portal
white nimbus
median elm
#

oh wait that was N?

white nimbus
#

The one from Paralogism

thin comet
#

THE TRAILER

median elm
#

two hexenzirkel reveals in one video

white nimbus
#

So we have 3 males so far

median elm
thin comet
#

we got rhinedottir, N, and ALICE

#

holy christ

spark portal
spark portal
spark portal
#

Dead chat on one of the most shocking lore days ever, smh my head.

sly bison
#

It’s midnight 😭

queen prawn
#

Also because giving her witch hat would be generic

#

Klee skin has it

#

Though,I assume part of her kit transform it into an actual hat

stoic spade
#

I like the lightkeeper dude

#

The cast looks nice

little sierra
#

She scatters dewdrops upon every bloom,
And tints the twilight with a sheen of silver.

Thus do shadows howl across the gloomy woods,
As flocks of deer and birds take fright and shiver.

She hums one nameless tune,
While walking through those solitary halls.

So her homeland may not fall to desolation,
So the tale may not be lost to oblivion.

...

▶ Play video
#

@molten crater skip to the end

spark portal
spark portal
little sierra
#

still worth a ping

sly bison
little sierra
#

wow

#

time to unfriend

topaz anvil
#

HOLY GUKK

#

VARKAAAA

median elm
white nimbus
#

I was hoping they would reveal the English VAs in the description like in Overture & Ignition A_HuPensive

sly bison
#

Overall im pretty content with the designs in 2D

#

only one I don’t care for much is uhh

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Johada and Nefer

#

Idk wtf is going on with Nefer lol

white nimbus
#

Character visions from the leaks subreddit:
Varka-anemo
Flins-electro
Alice-pyro
Durin-pyro
Nefer-dendro

lilac coral
#

WAIT

#

HE ACTUALLY LOOKS NOT BABY

#

YAY

#

Also can I just say, I adore columbina's full outfit

Save for the heels

#

Because like wtf are her heels

sly bison
lilac coral
#

She's just walking on her tippy toes with a ball floating beneath her heel

lilac coral
#

At least he isn't ayato

#

And is more like wrio

#

Dude actually has scars

#

And looks kinda built

#

KHOI DAO IS BACK

sly bison
#

But an 8/10 is still very good

lilac coral
#

Dude it feels so jarring to have alive revealed in the same vein as finding out wanderer is going to be in nod krai with mini durin

#

They are just straight up putting as many plot points into nod krai as possible A_WheezeTao

sly bison
lilac coral
#

Also one sec

reef axle
#

Like wtf is that "hat"

sly bison
#

Otherwise it’s weird yeah

lilac coral
#

Can I say this is close enough

#

Moon maiden, worship as the new moon

Tomato tomato

reef axle
#

Random aside, I found this comment thread on the reddit post hilarious WheezeTao

lilac coral
#

Also I agree with Alice's hat, but I'm sure they were trying to make something that looked entirely unique and magical other than the usual witch hat kekw

lilac coral
sly bison
lilac coral
#

Also

#

Nicole looks cute

sly bison
molten crater
molten crater
reef axle
#

Her way of talking in Sumeru/Fontaine felt really reserved/withdrawn. Her design here looks super bubbly/friendly

lilac coral
#

Agreed

#

But I'll take it

#

Because you know what?

#

Varka does NOT look the way he acts A_WheezeTao

queen prawn
#

A guide must be friendly

lilac coral
#

And I will happily accept that

reef axle
lilac coral
#

Ah gotcha lol

sly bison
lilac coral
#

Anyways, now that we know what varka looks like I shall simp until his arrival

#

I apologize in advance

sly bison
#

Do you like Flins Kc?

lilac coral
#

I think he looks cool but edgy like ororon

sly bison
#

Ororon with less vitamin D

lilac coral
#

He gives me vampire/vampire Hunter vibes

#

Which idm

#

I wanna see his personality and play style first before I go in on pulling for him 😭

reef axle
lilac coral
#

^

#

What Ororon was expected to be until we found out he's a literal man child

#

Just bought three welkins for varka, wish me luck A_WheezeTao

sly bison
#

Good luck

lilac coral
#

Thanks!

#

I have 77 wishes saved so far and plenty of quests and stuff to do so I'll have plenty for when he comes, I'm just hoping I get lucky kleePray

sly bison
lilac coral
#

I used to have almost 300

lilac coral
#

Look, I'm sorry I actually like several characters from each group of patches A_WheezeTao

#

And don't save for entire regions

reef axle
#

amateur

sly bison
#

Should have like

#

420 rolls by 5.8

#

But after seeing Flins?

Citlali is dead to me

#

So I’ll get Ineffa and Mualani only in that patch

#

She kept her windup key

lilac coral
lilac coral
reef axle
#

best part of the teaser is us finally getting to see the front of Columbina's outfit so fan artists know wtf to do there KEK

#

thought we were going to get an eye reveal for a minute there tho

sly bison
#

Even the robot’s face changed a bit

reef axle
#

could just be a mood light

#

for the star/"eyes" at least

lilac coral
#

I also like that Alice has a mondstadt vision casing

queen prawn
sly bison
#

Besides that she’s about the same

#

Just exposed shoulders

#

JP seems to really like Varka

#

Second only to Flins surprisingly

queen prawn
#

Varka I can understand but Flins ?A_smolhutao

#

Seem like a second electro tall male

sly bison
#

He’s apparently pretty popular

stoic spade
#

Flins like look the emo neuvilette of Nod krai so I get it, I will be also pulling for him

sly bison
#

I’m very sure Nefer is from Sumeru ngl

median elm
#

go figure

odd thicket
#

@lilac coral rerir already mentioned in nod krai

#

in todays trailer

reef axle
#

Who's rerir again?

odd thicket
#

a sinner

#

he is ronova's parallel

sweet dune
#

What the fuck i missed so much

odd thicket
odd thicket
#

That shes holding in tbe trailer

dense moss
#

OK varka isn't just adventurine

#

It's adventurine if he wasn't a twink

sweet dune
odd thicket
#

he is called the ratcher of solnarri

sweet dune
spark portal
#

You know, it's a bit ironic that Jean wants Noelle to prioritize herself, but she doesn't prioritize herself either (cmiiw with this lore info)

topaz anvil
#

question is wherees seamus pegg

onyx fossil
#

Dead in a ditch hopefully

lost quail
#

ALICE LOOKS SOOOOOO PRETTY!!!

#

WANDERER WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE??

modern plover
#

Durin my beloved

#

Ur coming home

#

It’s been 2 yrs since the last time I feel the genshin hype E_OMEGARAZOR E_OMEGARAZOR E_OMEGARAZOR

odd thicket
lost quail
#

I hope not

queen prawn
#

"in the water,the future mirror the past" maybe this will be part of NodKrai mechanic, in a puzzle or a world quest and archon quest

#

Old CBT suggests a similar mechanic,it is a cryo mirror that you can use to teleport

#

Although it was supposed to be for Snezhaya but who know

#

Also Natlan Cannon was wrong but the rest has a similar concept

queen prawn
spice portal
#

Jesus christ these character designs are cooking hard

#

Though, Durin is once again not beating the "Mondstadt knight child neglect allegations"

Brother has the wordly knowledge of a 2 year old and they just let his ass walk into a different country that is known for experimenting on shit

queen prawn
#

The City atleast

odd thicket
spice portal
#

I mean this version of Durin spent most of its time in a heavily fictionalized version of Mondstadt

odd thicket
#

Its all durin combined iirc

#

So old durin’s anger and hate and mini durin’s good

queen prawn
#

Durin burst unleashed his alpha male inside him A_HuLurk

sly bison
#

What was your favorite part of the newest trailer

median elm
sly bison
#

Colombina Jesus walk

And Wanderer back again

queen prawn
#

I noticed there was no sign of a Fae in the trailer,which made me believe Bina is likely a fae atp

#

Nicole maybe cuz of the wings but eh I don't know,form the lore she is more like a seelie

sly bison
#

Jahoda looks more Clink Clank aligned imo

queen prawn
#

Durin became a treasure hoarder

#

But,it could be that Sumeru girl

#

It is weird but there are no exceptions when it comes to leadership

#

also ,Varka is looking for the moon and she was there with him for no reason,it kinda makes sense she is part of the treasure hoarder and is helping him

#

Either way,it is also possible TH won't have an important role but we might know their origin,in a world quest or something

odd thicket
lilac coral
odd thicket
#

Oh wait

#

I forgot rejected albedo too

#

The albedo clone

lilac coral
#

Oh it wasn't regular albedo?

#

Did he not have the star on his neck

#

I wasn't looking

#

Nvm he did

sly bison
#

Albedo clone is dead yeah lol

median elm
#

yea i thought we killed the whopperflower

#

then again it was so long ago i forget

#

or what was that story about the buried something

#

damn my memory is ass

sly bison
#

Whopperflower was Fake Albedo’s creation

Albedo dealt with the Fake himself in the aftermath of that same event. It was only revealed recently that Albedo killed him offscreen.

median elm
#

1.x right

#

the 5.x only told us that he killed and buried him?

sly bison
odd thicket
#

And durin became unhinged and erratic from fake albedo’s negative emotions

#

Ig you are what you eat

#

Rhine’s abyss dabbling must have harmed her too much that only eating Naberius could counteract that

spice portal
sly bison
#

All the playable facial hair is going to Pierro and Pulcinella

#

(Tentatively)

spice portal
#

I do hate the leak of him being a dedicated Anemo DPS

#

Like, bro, we have enough Anemo DPS

#

Make him an absolutely cracked phys attacker with a swirl modifier for res strip and the attack speed of a normal sword user

sly bison
#

I’ll wait till we actually see the kit first

#

No anemo dps has ever been that alike (save for Heizou arguably)

But that have very high overlapping teams

#

I want to slot Varka into sth that doesn’t keep him fixed to Bennet Furina and/or Xiangling by the end of the day

lilac coral
#

Same

#

But I will pull for him regardless

#

And columbina if she's playable

lost quail
#

ARLE BETTER MAKE AN APPEARANCE

sly bison
#

I feel like we had this convo before

#

But Ms. doesn’t always entail single connotations?

reef axle
lilac coral
#

With a couple of concept pieces and the fact that the region's statue of the seven is COLUMBINA

#

And it seems, depending on where in nod krai you are, she's trapped in a metal "cage" or she's freely sitting on a crescent moon

sly bison
#

Esp once we get to mainland Snez

lilac coral
#

Hiisi island having columbina as the statue sitting on a crescent moon, then the place where you find the fatui's hideout has her trapped in a metal device

#

The first looks serene and peaceful as a statue and the cage in the second one just makes her look sad and scared while in the exact same pose

#

Sorry for bad quality, it won't let me open the images on mobile 😭

lilac coral
#

Like it's in snezhnaya, but it isn't "part" of snezhnaya

#

If you understand what I mean

#

Like how Portugal is "in" Spain, but it's not "part" of Spain

sly bison
#

Yesnt, but the point is more from a meta perspective as the game still acknowledges it as Snez territory whenever it’s talked about by both people that live there or have visited

modern plover
#

The more I look at Durin, the more I love him A_smolhutao

#

Also it seems like that ain’t the mini Durin we all know btw.

lilac coral
#

Oh, I didn't get that

#

I got the impression it wasn't necessarily part of snezhnaya but just located in it

sly bison
lilac coral
#

Ah okay

sly bison
#

Well, the actual playables will be are 99% likely be safe

But for all we know Sandrone could be set up as a bait NPC and get cooked…

queen prawn
#

Hoping playable characters to die in 2025 E_pepelol

#

I don't want emotional bait story by forcing a death of a character A_HuSleep

#

Npc death in tighnari quest still made me emotional ,what playable death gonna do more except make the fan angry?

sly bison
#

They best ditch those hopes

Regardless it’s all in execution. And it doesn’t need to be limited to just a playable if an NPC is just as if not more relevant.

#

Only Hi3 seems to commit

sly bison
odd thicket
#

so nibelung tried to raise a fourth moon or xiuhcoatl did
who is this mad monk >?

#

sao louma is a moon chanter ? hm

reef axle
#

The "self-proclaimed prophet" from Dainsleif's introduction W_HuLurking

#

I have no reason to connect the two, but would be cool

odd thicket
odd thicket
reef axle
# odd thicket huh wait where is it mentioned ??

Dainsleif's Character Card from before the game's launch.

Every character has a quote from another character talking about them in their introduction post. The Travelers have K.K., and Dain's is "A self-proclaimed prophet"

odd thicket
#

oh

reef axle
odd thicket
sly bison
#

But a mocking jackass too

odd thicket
# reef axle

self proclaimed prophet is DEFINITELY Vedrfolnir

reef axle
sly bison
#

🍵

odd thicket
#

it could be Irmin too

hazy storm
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has it ever been mentioned in game of klee having a father? my friend is trying to convince me of the rumors going around that klee is the by product of varka and alice

reef axle
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About the Parents
My mom and dad are the famousest travelers in Teyvat! Mom writes the Teyvat Travel Guide, so all the restaurants and hotels in the whole world care what she thinks about them.

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However anyone claiming Varka's the dad is on major crack lol

sly bison
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Actually would be funny if VARKA was actually Klee’s dad tho

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Esp since he’s the closest thing to a major renown male “adventurer” similar to Alice’s rep that we know of

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Imagine the meltdowns that would cause

odd thicket
hazy storm
sly bison
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Not only to the pieces ‘fit’

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But the segments match shockingly well too

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Esp the ring out the outer moon split into three-four segments

latent socket
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lmaoo thats a stretch

sly bison
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Nah, there could be worse

Hoyo’s no stranger to adding intention with their imagery throughout these past few years even with subtlety

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Just look at the domain murals long representing the shades and the PO even prior to Before Sun & Moon was accessible ingame

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As well as artifact pieces themselves

odd thicket
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tracks with the present resin

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also
notice how all of them depict a tree in them

sly bison
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True

sly bison
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Colombina has no reflection in the water

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@odd thicket

odd thicket
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Also, we are viewing her from over where her reflection should be

sly bison
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That’s only a shadow

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The closest thing to a reflection is when we see her face from what seems to be her POV

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in the water

sly pendant
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Hi lore basement

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Long time no chat