・lore-basement

[lilac coral]

ah that's what it was

[reef axle]

TL;DR: Genshin/HSR/ZZZ's issue was never the strike, but "Global Rule 1" that only really started getting enforced because of the attention from the strike.

Global Rule 1 basically being "Union VAs shouldnt be doing non-union work (like Genshin)"

It was something more or less ignored/turned a blind eye to before the strike started

[lilac coral]

ahh okay

[reef axle]

Basically whem everyone stopped doing union work cause of the strike, suddenly people started paying attention to this non-union work that had been happening lowkey in the background

[lilac coral]

[reef axle]

https://youtu.be/zxAubNf3EQQ

Was wondering what I was looking at at the start of the video, but when she started falling, was like "Oh shit... is that...?"

[white spade]

Guys, the temptation to c3 my Kazuha is real. I have enough for a couple of constellations. The fact I didn't lose the first time is tempting me furthur lol

[reef axle]

First time we've ever seen ||Teyvat from the outside||

[white spade]

I shan't since I wanna pull for Yelan

[white spade]

Ouh

[white spade]

/) /)
0 v0) delicious

[queen prawn]

Finally hoyo confirmed Teyvat isn't flat 😭

Also it seem like not every part of the sky is false. I mean you can't see the moon fragment from another region but only in Natlan,another NPC also confirmed that when he step out,he no longer see the faint broken moon

Another evidence is every region's star sky look very different

[reef axle]

Wouldnt that just be because the planet's round?

Or at least explainable by that?

[queen prawn]

The npc did describe it like the moon image disappear the moment he is out of Natlan,so I don't think it is because of the distance

[reef axle]

Weird

[queen prawn]

Mtwa(at Mondstadt's dock)
-How strange... It's like they can only be seen from inside Natlan...
-Yes I speak of the unknown fragments that appeared in the sky during the battle against the Abyss
-blah blah, irrelevant

How is the research?
-Poorly, I'm afraid,It seems like the more I look into it,the more questions I have. Why is it as soon as one leaves Natlan,the fragment seem to disappear?
-On the road here,I asked many an outlander,but all they gave me were funny looks,None of them seemed to know what I was talking about.

[lilac coral]

Man, that video was good and had some amazing backgrounds

But also surtologi speaking?

I saw a post by the singer of the music in the bg talk about how it's the first time she's sung an entire song in English and I think she sounded wonderful

[white nimbus]

I believe Surtalogi also has a line in the 5.7 trailer. Which is why his JP VA was revealed

[stoic spade]

So skirk is also probably waiting for a sibling, another lien sibling story on teyvat or is it gonna be some parallel timeline bs

[lilac coral]

Ohh, I hadn't noticed

And skirk is waiting for a sibling?

I figured it had something to do with her specific "destiny" with how surtologi was saying he ||simply opened the way for her to enter teyvat||

But it'd be interesting if there's parallels to the traveler

Given how they go about it, skirk's just one big mystery that I'm glad we get to intimately understand through a playable character

[stoic spade]

it's what I assume from the lyrics of the song and the last panel of her notes they posted yesterday with a younger her looking being.
The fact they also ended the animation at the traveler drawing of the sustainer on the beach with the shooting star falling down reflected in her eyes also seems like a good imagery of her reflecting the sibling's fate.

||Maybe that one leaker saying Skirk was an alternate timeline Lumine was right after all||

[odd thicket]

She was waiting for ajax

[odd thicket]

Nah there was no such leak

[queen prawn]

She probably has a sibling

[stoic spade]

https://tenor.com/view/please-be-true-frank-sinatra-fly-me-to-the-moon-song-please-be-honest-please-be-real-gif-18740717

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[odd thicket]

Galleries set makes it clear she was there for finding info about him

[queen prawn]

Which part

[odd thicket]

lemme look it up

wait

If your long journey makes you drift too far away
And if the dust and time still weigh you down, pulling you astray
If passing years change you somehow
Fret not, this simple rhyme will still be there with you now

Please know that I stay to wait
Please know that I stay to see
Through all the changing seasons, sun and rain
Right here I stand
I am still here
Waiting for you
Here I will stay

These silent fading melodies hold memories from our past, you see
These gentle echoes still convey old promises from you and me
Offering comfort through the silent years
Dispelling lonely fears
Know I wait
I wait
I wait
Know I wait
Wait for you

so she encountered dain in sumeru ?

so this same monster appeared in Mavuika's animated short

skirk has been to mare jivari

another look at mare jivari, or is this hyperborea judging by the sky ?

[stoic spade]

so like the sibling skirk already had a journey through teyvat, no idea about the timeline of her journey compared to the siblings

[odd thicket]

She came after traveller woke up

also
should note that she wants to eventually beat surtologi one day

and going by the quest leak
||It was surtologi who destroyed her planet and later adopted her||

[stoic spade]

He opened the way to teyvat for her

and then did the same thing for the whale

it's coming to the question if it's so easy for him to open the way why does he stay in Teyvat

[reef axle]

Fun comparison someone on the Genshin reddit pointed out:

[odd thicket]

his fate is stuck with teyvat that is why

he is not on teyvat atm

but will return soon

[odd thicket]

makes sense
stars determine fate
and wishes are somehow related to constellations and fates

[reef axle]

also, you know, summoning heroes from the heavens

The Balladeer: Plus, (‍she/he‍) only came to this world because the heavens responded to the summoning.

[odd thicket]

so khaneriah wished for the traveller ?

[queen prawn]

Khaeriah got lucky and got two 5*

[reef axle]

No idea tbh. It's possible. That voiceline from Scaramouche + these two are all we really have at the moment that points that way tho

Chlothar: We once believed that you would bring new strength and hope to Khaenri'ah.
Chlothar: To us, you were the Abyss... A wondrous mystery far beyond our imagination and comprehension...
Chlothar: ...And the one who controls the Abyss can control everything!
Chlothar: We yearned for that future. We looked to you to take us there.

Nasejuna: Long, long ago, Dahri once built a facility here that connected them to realms beyond.

• this namecard about someone in Khaenriah addressing King Irmin (Universitas Magistrorum was a Khaenriah organization)

[odd thicket]

Hoyo acted through the sustainer and caught one
no lucky second 5* in a ten pull they said

[odd thicket]

khaenrians were meta slaves ?

[odd thicket]

where do we get this namecard /

?

[reef axle]

By completing all the achievements in the "Meetings in Outrealm: Series IV" set of achievements

(defeating a bunch of bosses in coop mode)

[odd thicket]

i think those are done

[odd thicket]

Skirk has a guitar

[odd thicket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/k_jEt22qL2U?feature=shared

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/il-dottore-genshin-impact-me-explaining-why-you're-wrong-il-dottore-genshin-impact-collei-genshin-you're-wrong-gif-3393822210311336879

new fav gif

[stoic spade]

and people were calling me crazy for saying they had similar movements 😤 I'm glad they have a good relationship and Skirk is supportive rather than having the "ajax is a burden" people were expecting. Hopefully more Ajax lore incoming

[queen prawn]

Well,she is kinda the reason Childe become a maniac

[odd thicket]

yeah, she seems to genuinely like ajax

unlike surtologi with her

[odd thicket]

eh, hes just enthusiastic to prove himself

skirk animation song is soo good tf

[spark portal]

Wait, when did you guys know that Skirk wasn't from Teyvat?

[stoic spade]

I think people speculated because the whale was confirmed to come from the outside and her motifs were very similar to the whale and the travelers

the animation trailer definitely confirmed it as well as the other official trivia on her

[spark portal]

I meant that you guys are talking about Skirk like you guys already know that she isn't from Teyvat months before the animated trailer

[stoic spade]

You'd have to point out where we talked about her months before

[spark portal]

The way you guys talked about Skirk like it wasn't a big deal, that led me to typing that

[stoic spade]

oh well it seemed obvious to most people, personally I thought she came from Teyvat and then left it to live in the abyss in her youth. but it's true her having a fin on her back indicated alien, but it could have been alien teyvat. but her being alien doesn't surprise me, because she appeared in fontaine where we learned that not all alien to Teyvat become descenders, so it felt intentional to have her introduced during that patch.
Maybe the lore of the artefact also hinted at it? idr

[odd thicket]

Her vision

Frame

[odd thicket]

Leaks

Her entire story quest was leaked three months ago

I suspected she was from nod krai or sneznaya

And surtologi took her from teyvat

[spark portal]

MODS

[queen prawn]

Ping

[lilac coral]

Man and I just woke up, too

[odd thicket]

viewing the animated short again

i think this confirms that Rene was on point regarding the nature of descenders

skirk has been following our footsteps too

can anyone explain this ?

[lilac coral]

Explain what

How the sinners relate to the general idea of specific aeonic paths?

[stoic spade]

if it's trying to connect hsr universe lore with genshin, I guess yeah. in HSR paths aren't really gods more like they're manifestation of concepts created from collective perception of what a path should be. I don't think HSR paths are gonna be any relevant to Genshin's plot

[lilac coral]

^

They function on an entirely different premise from gods in genshin

[stoic spade]

as for if those paths would fit those characters, we know so little of the sinners I can't say. Even surtalogi who is indeed a destructor, could be a hunt if he's on a mission to 'pursue' an enemy. Destruction in HSR is a path that seeks to end it all, while hunt is a pursuer. Rhine being abundance is eh, I would attach her to Ruan Mei kind of vibe more than anything and she's an harmony character who is very close to propagation so like. it's up to interpretation but I don't think it's a point worthy of thinking about more than it's a fun thing people do like trying to attribute random character pokemon teams ww

[lilac coral]

Ye

Could you imagine the sinners being so grotesque and malformed that they actually looked like the aeons in HSR?

It'd be cool

Like after 500 years after their betrayal, they've suffered the most from the curse and have become monstrosities

[stoic spade]

Universed size metaconcept being that focus all their intention on teyvat

Whoever become elation is gonna be the most dangerous one, since in HSR lore, AHA blew up galaxies for shit and giggles

I was about to compare Aeons to beings like Nyx and Thanatos that are concepts and have personification/avatar but whose celestial bodies are undeniable pillar of reality and cannot be killed compared to other gods. but Aeons can absorb each other, like some paths have been absorbed in HSR meaning they can be destroyed if the subconscious collective kind of forget about them, and one of the subplot is some character trying to revive an old path to defeat the present ones, So they're more like a weird meta thing, that are technically also concepts, but not as untouchable as the Night and Death for exemple

[odd thicket]

yeah

[odd thicket]

they should be

oh i am finally prankster 7

[odd thicket]

what of rerir

also

the Primordial One is definitely a kaslana

either Kevin or Kiana

[stoic spade]

Probably kiana, dain also looks something between kevin and otto depending on the day

But what do we know of Rerir rn in genshin because his name still sounds very obscure to me

from the wiki his chinese name means moon hunter which is probably why they associated him with the hunt path which is fair if true.

[odd thicket]

His full title is Ratcher of Sol-Nari

Sol and Narri are names of loki's two sons iirc

[stoic spade]

Yeah I read a theory about that, it's just weird his english title is so convoluted when the chinese name is clearly translated as "moon hunter"

[white spade]

[odd thicket]

Sol is the norse sun goddess

[lilac coral]

That and there can't be two paths that are too similar, as a path that has a broader ideal absorbs ones with more specific, similar ideals iirc

[odd thicket]

Narri is one of the sons of loki

I forgot narri’s brother’s name

But he and narri were gutted alive after being forced to fight each other, and their guts taken to craft loki’s chains stretching him on to a rock slab with a serpent pouring venom onto his face

[lilac coral]

Norse mythos is metal

[odd thicket]

Loki’s unhindered pain on the slab of rock has him writhe so much that it causes earthquakes

[stoic spade]

Oh norse version of prometheus lmao

[odd thicket]

Oh and

[odd thicket]

Nah

He was punished for tricking a blind god into killing baldur

[odd thicket]

His grandsons, skoll and hati

Chase the sun and moon and eventually devour it

[odd thicket]

Nordic Prometheus is likely just Odin or the other Giants

[stoic spade]

eh

[odd thicket]

Loki is Odin’s brother/ close friend in the myths

[odd thicket]

The tricky part in genshin is figuring who is who

Surtologi is supposed to be fiery but is heavily associated with oceans, deep seas and currents

[stoic spade]

I mean Baldur's death started ragnarok, prometheus giving fire/creating humanity to defy the gods, both binded, one poisoned everyday the other had his liver eaten every day, I think it's pretty similar

[odd thicket]

Same issue in mondadadt

The four temples are haphazardly placed

Each domain is in the opposite location of where it should be from mondsdadt

Even take the example of the Nod Krai teaser

Mond is at the far east of teyvat

But varka and the knights of favonius are said to be knights of winds of the west

[odd thicket]

Ah in that regards yes there are similarities

[lilac coral]

SEELE??

[mental flame]

what Scara could've been

[spark portal]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DIg2YnYqa8j/?igsh=MTlmMnRvcTUyZGhndQ==

Can anyone here prove this?

Moon ☾ (@moonvalkyrie)

It has come to a full cycle. A full year since I’ve grasped the first glimpse of the design underlying the Hoyoverse a year of continuing to play through the stories and collecting more elements feeding, building, into that theory. The full format will come soon. #hoyocreators #genshinimpact #genshin #honkaistarrail #hsr #starrail #hsrcreators #loveanddeepspace

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[stoic spade]

i can't read insta videos

[reef axle]

ngl, it's hard to find anything to "prove" in that video. It's just a bunch of imagery thrown side by side without actually saying how they're related, just "implying" they are.

The only actual claim being made in that video (Hoyoverse = based off Tree of Life/Qliphotic Tree of Death), is also vague/not really something "provable"

[odd thicket]

What do they mean

This imagery has been brought up by a certain loretuber for a year nkw

Now

He predicted natlan would have an abyssal tree

And lo, Tenebrous Papilla

[slim mica]

Might be Western Mondstadt? (beyond Old Mondstadt)

[white nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=injdhkGRoCs

Hmm it's in Japanese again. So either Childe or Arlecchino is unvoiced in English. Or both of them

[lilac coral]

Dude skirk is going to be SUCH a massive lore drop and I am here for it

I mean, that scene at the end with her as a kid looking up at what looks like a dying moon? Jesus

Also childe Childe is cute

Also the fully animated fight in the middle of her trailer is 🤌

[white nimbus]

Yeah I'm really looking forward to her story quest. Hope it's fully voiced in English 🙏

[reef axle]

If that's the level of animation they're putting in her teaser, cant wait to see what they do for her demo 👀

[lilac coral]

Ikr?

[queen prawn]

Damn ,another planet?

That look like earth

[queen prawn]

No,because it is weird if one is english,one is japanese

[reef axle]

The reason they say that is because we know Skirk's EN VA is willing to voice things (since she appeared in the livestream and voiced Skirk in the character ability previews).

So if the trailer is still being voiced in Japanese only, it's because one of the other VAs in English wont record. Her Collected Miscellany was becauae Dain's EN VA is striking, and Flash was saying this one must be because either Childe and/or Arlecchino is striking.

[queen prawn]

[white nimbus]

Yep. I remember that they still used English in some videos before & some characters were just mute. Like Citlali's teaser iirc where Traveler was mute. Which makes me wonder about the recent vids. Did they just not record anything in English? Like I remember Escoffier's teaser was also in Japanese just because it had Charlotte in it and her English VA is still refusing to work. That would suck for the VAs that are willing to work but would supposedly get told that they won't record for this specific thing just because it also includes a character whose VA is refusing to work

[lilac coral]

I'm going to assume it's griffin, which would make me sad if true

But he makes up like half of the teaser

[white nimbus]

I hope not. He's still actively doing his Childe hijinks with Scaramouche's VA. It's probably Arlecchino's VA cause she's unvoiced in TCG

[lilac coral]

Oh, characters are voiced in tcg?

[white nimbus]

Yeah some few lines when we challenge them for a battle

[lilac coral]

I was wondering if there were any recent appearances from either of them to get an idea from who might still be voicing lol

Oh okay

I don't play the tcg so I had no idea

[white nimbus]

I think their last quest appearances were in Arlecchino's story quest in 4.6

[lilac coral]

😔

[white nimbus]

I don't anymore too. Someone just informed

[lilac coral]

Gotcha lol

[odd thicket]

Yeah it was Arlecchino VA not voicing

[white nimbus]

I hope so. Cause I hear ||Childe is in Skirk's story quest. So if he's not voiced, I'd have to hold off on doing her story quest in addition to the Traveler AQ ||

[lilac coral]

Agreed

[odd thicket]

I can share the whole quest plot to you if you want

[lilac coral]

No thanks

Not without voices

[odd thicket]

Offer still stands until 5.7

[lilac coral]

Nah

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-merchant-what-are-you-buying-re4-shady-deal-gif-25857017

[white nimbus]

No thanks. I don't look at story leaks 🙂

[odd thicket]

This is not just a mere story leak
Its the full plot leak from 2 months ago

Okay

You want to go in spoiler free

https://tenor.com/view/anime-beretta-ベレッタ-applause-applaud-gif-3294033248159649869

[spark portal]

https://fixupx.com/catprotano/status/1933743399661965359?t=N2nfzyE027SUCbDnaAddyQ&s=19

Cat Protano 🐳🧹 (@catprotano)

please let us dub this someday please let us dub this someday please

Quoting Genshin Universe (@GenshinUniverse)
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Skirk's Teaser - An End, And a Beginning
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FixupX · Jun 14, 2025, 4:28 AM

[spark portal]

She wanted to voice her

[white nimbus]

I was right then. That really sucks for the VAs who are actually showing up for work. Hope it gets resolved soon. If SAG won't budge, Hoyo needs to make a stand soon

[odd thicket]

is that arlecchino va ?

[white nimbus]

Skirk's VA

[odd thicket]

oh

her character did not even debut yet and shes begging for more work

[stoic spade]

This teaser was great, but i'm now back on my brain riot of Ajax's and the whale connection

[queen prawn]

New name color isn't bad,but I wish I was red or purple

[odd thicket]

yeah

blue is a crime

[white nimbus]

Oh they changed it again

[dense moss]

criminal

[lilac coral]

There's purple the higher you go

Like if I were to take my staff roles off, I have purple

[queen prawn]

Prankster 9

[lilac coral]

You're almost there!

You're at p7

The purple starts at p8 iirc

Nvm it is p9

But you're still close

And when the new version comes out they should be doubling the exp in the channels again so if you talk you'll get more

[dense moss]

Damn then i gotta not talk

i like blue

[queen prawn]

I forgot the command for checking exp

[lilac coral]

It's >level

But you use it in a bot channel

[queen prawn]

735 exp more

Oh wait..

Level 70 needed,I am still level 58

Why is it so "expensive "

[dense moss]

just talk more

[odd thicket]

voice chat should certainly help

[lilac coral]

It would, but only if you have someone else in vc with you unfortunately lol

There needs to be at least two people in vc for either of them to gain exp, so people don't just farm exp alone to get perms without doing anything

[spark portal]

level

[ornate pond]

Level and XP for Anaxa | dau's new color is good

Text XP

207350

Voice XP

104

Total XP

207454

Level

45

Progress

6604/12475 (52%)

Next Reward

<@&806367248817192981> at Level 50

Boost

None

Wangsheng Funeral Parlor | Genshin Impact

[queen prawn]

Nerf P8 fr

[lilac coral]

So you can never get purple?

Sounds like a plan

[mental flame]

we're all blue now

blue-ish

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-fire-elmo-anarchy-blues-gif-25903479

[odd thicket]

One more day for banner reveal and datamine leaks

[lilac coral]

One more day until the dev of ambr graces us once more

[reef axle]

https://youtu.be/KKAZiyeTUQQ

A character trailer in English? 👀👀👀

[spark portal]

Now that Venti VA is back, we should be seeing some character's VA back

||Until one is missing, a certain purple "cat" girl||

[white nimbus]

🥳
||https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1lcj92e/keqings_en_va_has_been_recast_via_homdgcat/||

[white nimbus]

Nice. It's not just a generic & boring trailer like Iansan's & Ifa's. This one has an actual animated cutscene too which they usually only do for 5-stars. If only they gave more love to his kit too

[lilac coral]

WOOOO

ERIKA IS BACK BABYYY

[lilac coral]

I'm somehow here before the dev, but ambr is updated y'all
https://gi.yatta.moe/en/changelog?v=57

The first thing that came to mind when reading the last bit to the story for skirk's sword is ||the tsaritsa at the mention of love||

||"The moment shall come when the ruler who stands against love is shaken,"||
||"And once the veil is sundered and torn, a new day over this land shall dawn." ||

Fucking formating

But, and this is a huge but because I'm probably very, very, wrong, could this possibly lend to ||an insurrection against the tsaritsa lead by pierro? Assuming he still has strong ties to Kheanri'ah is all that he is doing is for the glory of his former homeland? Specifically with the second line||

Like what if she's in the way somehow

Also

||NEW PET?||

Skirk's name card description is also really telling, if her as a child in her trailer wasn't enough to give an idea of her upbringing

Also love how cheeky Dahlia's is

[odd thicket]

she got recast

Keqing got recasted

[dense moss]

If no one said it here

Paimon's lines were leaked

||it's a new VA||

so we fucking wining

[lilac coral]

I wonder who then

I guess we will see

[dense moss]

No names yet but it Def is different

[odd thicket]

people said she sounds like the old VA

from 1.0

[white nimbus]

It sounds different to me

||https://streamable.com/vbuq4e||
This is the one I heard. Tbh, I don't like it. Sounds too cartoony for me

[dense moss]

It's kinda in between it's not 1.0 but it's also not Corina being a fucking gremlin

[lilac coral]

There's sound files to listen to already?

Damn

[odd thicket]

Yes

[lilac coral]

I was just walking through the parking lot to my car and tried listening and my volume was at 100% 😭

Why the fuck does it START LIKE THAT

[dense moss]

why is your volume at 100

[odd thicket]

Yeah

How do you drive at 100%

Wont you be deaf to other horns

[lilac coral]

I don't even know

I don't usually have it above like 60

Maybe it went up when it was in my pocket earlier 😭

[lilac coral]

I wasn't driving I was walking to my car

In the parking lot

I don't use my phone when I drive

[odd thicket]

Oh i misunderstood

I thought your stereo was 100%

[dense moss]

i do do that sometimes, mine goes to like 45 i think, normal is between 20 to 25, but sometimes i do have to crank it to max(45)

[odd thicket]

Yeah same

Esp at afternoons on empty roads

Highways mostly

[lilac coral]

Nono, my stereo stays at 20

I was walking through the parking lot to my car and listening to the audio on my phone but my phone was at 100% for some reason

[odd thicket]

Sometimes the sweat through the pants or tightness of the pocket messes up the phone settings

[lilac coral]

And the first sound of course had to be an awkward moan

[odd thicket]

Was it music or reels

[odd thicket]

Oh
Awkward

But parking lots are usually empty ?

[dense moss]

my phone is generally always at 0 for media

cause i use earbuds

[lilac coral]

It's an afternoon at one of the only two grocery stores in a 25 mile radius lol

We are busy

I just opened the link to the voice replacement and didn't realize my volume was so high until I hit the play button and tried to turn my volume up (since it's usually low and hard to hear out with the cars and sounds outside) and saw it was already at 100% when the voice started 😭

Then I tried to turn it down and it tried turning it up more instead

[odd thicket]

Oh
So it was crowded

[odd thicket]

Voice replacement ?

[dense moss]

paimon thing

[odd thicket]

Oh

[reef axle]

Good news

[odd thicket]

They sure rattled him with a warning

[odd thicket]

Yeah the striking VAs are scared

[reef axle]

eh, seems less like it's a scare thing and more that the VAs who were striking out of solidarity with the larger SAG strike are coming back, while the VAs that were striking to try and get miHoYo to unionize are still striking.

To my knowledge at least, Zach pretty much stayed out of the drama entirely

[odd thicket]

What happened to the VAs for the playable characters in HSR?

Why were they replaced

[odd thicket]

Oh
So the wild cat strikers are fucked then

[reef axle]

they had been silent for several versions hadn't they?

[odd thicket]

Idk

I just heard they got shafted

In the latest versions

[reef axle]

At least going off of what Beidou's VA said, miHoYo reaches out to the VAs before replacement with a "hey, are you going to come back? We need this version voiced, so if you are going to come back, let us know or we'll have to search for replacements". They don't just unilaterally go "Okay, new VA now, get fucked"

[odd thicket]

Oh

That is generous indeed

Incredibly generous

The wild cat strikers are finished then

[reef axle]

miHoYo has largely taken a very hands-off approach to the English dub

[odd thicket]

Yep

[reef axle]

both before and during the strike

[odd thicket]

Hoyo won without doing anything

[reef axle]

seeing as Hoyo wasn't really involved in the negotiations at all, they didn't really "win" anything

They just stopped catching strays from the US drama

(They weren't involved cause China has its own rules on how companies can engage with stuff like this and AI)

[lilac coral]

Oh thank God they're both finally coming back

[lilac coral]

Hoyo has pretty much been on the more positive side when it comes to being a good company to work for

From what other VAs have said, hoyo has been goated in supporting their workers

At least in the voicing side of things

I'd hope it's the same for the employees working on building the game too but I haven't heard as much on that front

[spark portal]

Honestly, I like it

Also, Fucking Phineas and Ferb's sister is staying, that sucker should've left first, she literally quits without using any implications

[spark portal]

And also, that fucking batman redhead is also staying

[lilac coral]

Batman redhead?

I know you mean Candace for the first one

Diluc?

[spark portal]

Diluc obviously

[lilac coral]

Ah

[spark portal]

Sean said that the "strike" on genshin isn't ending on his bluesky

[lilac coral]

Wait so what did chiplock do

Oh

Okay

I mean, whatever, his character finally had like 3 speaking lines for the first time in years so I'm sure it makes no difference to him

Let him strike, it makes little to no difference

[spark portal]

https://bsky.app/profile/sonicmega.bsky.social/post/3lrhh57pm6s2r

Sean Chiplock 🟡 🔜 Idaho Falls RetroX3 (Idaho) (@sonicmega.bsky.social)

Just getting this out of the way so folks can share when people inevitably start asking:

No, the SAG-AFTRA strike ending does NOT mean that the #Genshin cast strike is also over. Genshin is Non-Union, and SAG’s contracts have no say on it.

The cast strike is an independent Collective Work Refusal.

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Sean Chiplock 🟡 🔜 Idaho Falls RetroX3 (Idaho) (@sonicmega.bsky.social)

-# ↩ Sean Chiplock 🟡 🔜 Idaho Falls RetroX3 (Idaho) (@sonicmega.bsky.social)
See this thread for more info:

bsky.app/profile/soni...

Genshin cast members INDEPENDENTLY chose to join the effort to ask for better protections on the project, & it is up to to em INDEPENDENTLY if they want to return without them.

As a NU project Genshin does not get the SAG agreement benefits.

-# Sean Chiplock 🟡 🔜 Idaho Falls RetroX3 (Idaho) (@sonicmega.bsky.social)
SAG-AFTRA has no legal jurisdiction over Genshin VO as the game is Non-Union (not signed to a Union contract).

Most unvoiced characters are such because of a Collective Work Refusal, IE an unofficial effort by multiple cast members to require specific accommodations before they will return to work.

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Bluesky · Jun 13, 2025, 3:05 AM

[reef axle]

this is pretty much what I was saying earlier

[reef axle]

^

[lilac coral]

I thought most of the voice actors who were striking were part of sag?

With like, a sprinkling of others striking in solidarity for them

Wait I misread

Nevermind

[white nimbus]

The trio is back!
https://www.vxtiktok.com/@withakerika/video/7516635992615423275

[lilac coral]

oh my god she has a whole ass venti cosplay

and the wine bottle looks exsquisite

[spark portal]

Oh shoot, she really looks like venti lol

[white nimbus]

Yeah she also did a music video cover in Venti cosplay & voice in 2021. It looks like she really loves her Venti role
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VTiqVG1qs7M

[lilac coral]

Oh damn I forgot that existed

[odd thicket]

She even released a diss on Boettger

https://youtu.be/v29MBkd5Zx0?feature=shared

[white nimbus]

Actually, Erika said she made that song a while ago. It was just coincidentally released during the time Corina won't stfu

[odd thicket]

Oh

Good to know

[white nimbus]

I've been following her Tiktok lately because of the SAG crapfest

[lilac coral]

But the timing definitely makes it feel like it was a jab at someone, yeah lol

[white nimbus]

She released an album recently and she even made a music video for one of the songs in it. I think it's pretty good. It has a 2000s vibe to it

[lilac coral]

Even if it was made a year ago

[white nimbus]

Yeah she definitely (maybe) timed that intentionally

[reef axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWa3Xvn2MhQ

It's hereeeeee

And in English too

Happy for the VA

[queen prawn]

It time to build her a home

Teapot main arise

[white nimbus]

She got cucked in the EP & teaser because of her colleagues

[reef axle]

Hm, I feel like the beach one would suit her well?

Or the Fontaine one maybe (tho not a fan of that one)

[queen prawn]

Seem like it, Fontaine is kinda eh

[lilac coral]

DUDE HER TRAILER IS SO GOOD

And that theme music??

[reef axle]

Such a missed opportunity with that one 😔

[lilac coral]

I think her trailer's theme is the most badass one in the game now

It's like, the most action anime-esque one

From the rock sections to the vocals

[reef axle]

Personally still feel Raiden's or Arlecchino's is the most "badass", but I'd say it's the prettiest

[queen prawn]

Skirk trailer is telling her story while the other focus on combat

[lilac coral]

There's also the description to the video as well

The death of a planet is often regarded as the end of its civilization.
The flickers of starlight left behind are merely a sigh of divine pity.

[lilac coral]

Raiden's I think is cool, I can't remember arlecchino's I'll be honest

But there's just something about the rock music that makes me think it sounds badass

[odd thicket]

When did Childe get his vision

[reef axle]

we dunno. He's the only character w/ a Vision that doesn't have a Vision story in their profile, so they're probably saving its reveal for later

[odd thicket]

Are we sure it is HIS vision though ?

Also, is his vision flickering ever explained ?

After Rene’s notes, I wrote off childe and wanderer never becoming a descender

Surtologi never possessed a vision too

[reef axle]

at least according to the item description it seems to be

Childe's Vision
It appears as if Childe lost control of the Elemental Power within it before. The Vision has lost its glow now that its owner has left it behind.

but nah, we never got a confirmed answer about its flickering

[stoic spade]

Childe's vision seems to respond to him though that's all we have for credibility that it's a vision, but I also thought visions teleported back to their owners if too far apart

[reef axle]

nah, that's a misreading people have of Keqing's vision story

[stoic spade]

ah makes more sense then

[reef axle]

In fact, she has tried to destroy her Vision countless times — she's left it in a huge fire for three days and three nights, run over it with a minecart full of rocks, and has even hurled it from the heights of the Jade Chamber.

Unfortunately, she has never been successful.

With no options left, and not wanting it to fall into the wrong hands, Keqing was forced to accept the Vision as part of her life.
First part shows she was able to leave it for multiple days, 2nd bold part is the line people ignore lol

[stoic spade]

makes more sense yeah

But yeah

the only other thing about Childe's vision is his voice line about power

"If it makes me stronger, I'll take it. Vision? Great. Delusion? Don't mind if I do. Heretical teachings from the Abyss? Sign me up."

so at least he believes it's a vision even if we don't have a story about it

As for why it was flickering, it's 90% related to the whale but how? Maybe will be explained later hopefully, if they touch more on the connection between the two. Since it was also talked about by Skirk in her trailer again saying "he awakened it and its traces are now remaining on him"

[odd thicket]

Surtologi owns childe’s fate with the Whale

But visions ensure you are forever abiding to Celestia and cannot become a descender

[stoic spade]

That would confirm Surtalogi acceptes Childe as one of his disciple ||and therefore will hunt him down with Skirk at some point to kill him||

[odd thicket]

Idts

Even surtologi’s fate is tied to teyvat

He is the only descender whose fate has not been in his control

[stoic spade]

How would that stop him from hunting them though?

[odd thicket]

He needs childe to help him become a descender i think

He would hunt skirk but would want childe

[stoic spade]

uh

[odd thicket]

Galleries set had him have skirk pursue ajax’s story

And she discovered smol Ajax

[stoic spade]

Didn't she hunt the voyager?

[odd thicket]

Maybe Ajax is to Surtologi, what Durin was to us/ Albedo/ Wanderer ?

[odd thicket]

Voyager took control of Ajax’s body

[stoic spade]

was it confirmed?

[odd thicket]

Yeah

Galleries set

Actually

Mb

Ajax and the voyager’s boy host are not confirmed to be the same

Only facts supporting are Skirk finding Childe in her search for Voyager and that Childe shares the same name as Ajax the hero, and fates of shared names are the same / similar

[stoic spade]

Skirk finding Ajax in her search for voyager is what I don't think is true though, because she found Ajax because he awoke the whale, and I don't think she took the whale with her on her travels.

[odd thicket]

Whale followed her

Iirc

To play

Skirk had to whale keep

[stoic spade]

From Ajax's story pov it went like this:

ran away from home to go on adventures ->Was chased by wild wolves and bears-> The abyss detected his resolve to survive and surpass and opened its maw to make him fall -> he landed either on the whale directly or near which trigerred the whale to wake up-> the whale waking up alarmed Skirk that went to check out why the whale was awake-> Found Ajax nearby -> Noticed the whale imprinted on the kid and knew it meant that boy was going to live a chaotic life from now on -> decided to give the boy a chance and taught him how to fight to prepare for the storms coming his way because of it.
Since there's no mention of surtalogi or Ajax ever mentionning a master's master, it's up to debate if childe ever met him, or if Skirk was still his apprentice at the time, I can guess she was because she was still "babysitting the whale"

[stoic spade]

then why would Ajax waking it up be such a deal? I mean there's no real answer it's still pretty vague and that's why I'm hoping the connection between the narwhal and Ajax will be discussed more because clearly Ajax being tainted by the whale was a huge deal for Skirk, which might help connect the timeline on if that happened on Skirk's search for the Voyager's story or way after 😔

||because if the theory that the reason Ajax's constellation is the narwhal is because the narwhal's corruption/ or that it was simply his fate to be connected to an outlander of Teyvat, and if the leaks of the Whale dying is true, would that technically break him free from the shackle of Teyvat's fates? or am I reading too much into it ||

[twilit fern]

lowkey rusty memory on this but wasn't the whale the cause of fontaine's flooding? then it staying asleep would have delayed the end times for 'em, wouldn't it? though i doubt that'd be the reason why

[stoic spade]

I mean that prophecy was gonna happen no matter what, but one could argue that Childe being linked to the narwhal and Skirk training him to fight it, lead to Childe being able to hold the whale back. Which then lead to what broke the prophecy, or altered it, as it gave more time for Focalors' plan to be set in motion.

from that pov, childe was as much as a trigger for the prophecy as he was the key point to help the prophecy being avoided

[queen prawn]

I still think Surtalogi is the one who causes it and framed Celestia for it

[stoic spade]

when in doubt blame surtalogi I agree

[queen prawn]

Because he was ||bored||

[stoic spade]

honestly I would also see a witch being part of it

both of them seem to be on a similar vibe

[spark portal]

Sooooo, anyone confident in their lore understanding?

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/x44iY9fZAc

[stoic spade]

"we need people that understand our lore because we kind of lost it"

but fr you also need a good portofolio of screenwritting

[queen prawn]

Most of us make theory so eh

Also it's animating,none of us here can do it lmao

[spark portal]

A N I M A T I O N W R I T I N G.

[queen prawn]

I mean,you still have to follow the script from actual story writer, your lore knowledge doesn't matter.

Oh,so script writer is the same

Either way,the requirement is many years of experience. Best we can do is make theory and prediction

[lilac coral]

Yeah, unless someone here has been practicing writing scripts for things, it might not be accepted lol

[odd thicket]

I can but i might go for grad school in another half a year

[odd thicket]

Paimon and Keqing VA replaced

[spark portal]

I think Venti's voice is available in 5.6 AQ now

Also, Hu Tao's voice is back, although I think they added it to the lantern rite event

[odd thicket]

Hep

[odd thicket]

Maybe

[spark portal]

Which is pointless.

But, what is NOT pointless is that Paimon's new VA doesn't need to do past events dialogue

"Why did they change Paimon’s voice?
According to an interview with Karina Boettger, the English voice of Paimon, the voice direction team intentionally changed Paimon’s voice over time to make it higher and higher, resulting in the voice we hear now."

Interestingly, high pitched Paimon was requested by voice director themselves

[odd thicket]

Voice director ?

Oh this was years ago

[spark portal]

Well, I was arguing on tc lounge, saying that it was Corinna's request, turns out I was wrong lol

[odd thicket]

Yeah

They have expressed it fucked up their voice often

[lilac coral]

I wouldn't believe anything they say tbh, because they also said years ago that paimon sounded so high because it was more comfortable for their voice

Fuck I keep forgetting Corina is nonbinary

Wasn't it?

[spark portal]

Meaning they are not 0 and 1s?

[lilac coral]

Unfortunately

But yeah, I was told years ago that the reason they went higher pitch was because they said during a Livestream/interview that it was more comfortable for them

[spark portal]

Using chatgpt and their web feature, I got this

https://chatgpt.com/share/68520996-7438-8004-920e-824fed5b318d

[lilac coral]

Ah okay

[topaz anvil]

whens the next drip tho

[lilac coral]

uhhh

it's been like a week into the new versions recently, hasn't it?

[spark portal]

@lilac coral tell me when you guys found something interesting on Skirk's lore

[topaz anvil]

burned through 200 pulls for skirk and wep 😭

[lilac coral]

that's fine with me :)

[queen prawn]

Me be like

My sister got 3 5 meanwhile I spent more and got 1

[odd thicket]

Okay

This is super lucky

I lost my 5050 weapon banner to amos bow

[lilac coral]

i lost mine to yet another atlas

[odd thicket]

At least my Ganyu has her signature now

[lilac coral]

congrats on two at least!

i could only afford one and a weapon

[lilac coral]

@reef axle she decided to suddenly appear and touch skirk's ass too

she wasn't there before i went to use it

then i used it and she materialized behind me

[reef axle]

Must be something they added this version then lol

[lilac coral]

it's one of the anecdotes

so the thingy where you talk to characters in their everyday lives

[reef axle]

Oh wait, now I remember. They had said when they did the event that they were gonna rollit out permanently at some point

Guess we're getting them now

[lilac coral]

but like

my question is why isn't she there before you use the table?

like all the others

maybe

[white nimbus]

Yeah I was surprised when Ifa just appeared behind me after using the crafting table. Did you talk to Iansan yet? I wonder why it's a different character for me

[lilac coral]

it's iansan for us

[odd thicket]

Ayo can someone just help me with this web event

GABV3ZZUDN https://hoyo.link/OFeyFZKYs?i_code=GABV3ZZUDN

[stoic spade]

doodoo_muncher is a crazy name

[white spade]

o

[lost quail]

Ok so question. ||Aether picked Lumine back up and ran….how come they aren’t together? Did he just..go back to where he found her and put her back? Or did he time travel when he realized what choosing his sister would do? And his guilt for what he believed was a selfish choice?||

[lost quail]

So when’s the deadline for account age verification cuz I’m not sure if I’m still gonna plaayyy or not

[silk heath]

hey guys could i ask u guys to click here for the web event? Click my exclusive link to relive our Teyvat journey together! Take part in the event for guaranteed Primogems and a chance to win awesome prizes in the prize draw! Invitation code: GA69TKMR9N https://hoyo.link/OFeyFZKYs?i_code=GA69TKMR9N

[odd thicket]

Idk

Am not in USA

[lilac coral]

https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/m/en/news/detail/155805

July 18th

After that your account is suspended and if you don't do it by July 20th of next year, your account is deleted

[lost quail]

Ok! Uhh.. maybe I’ll check in just to see

Not see but yk renew

Also why do people keep saying Mavuika wants to punch the traveler’s sibling?

Where is this even stated

[odd thicket]

The archon quest today

[lost quail]

…I need a clip

Or a screenshot

That’s too funny

What if she just

Does that, she just punches them. And everyone’s like “HOLY SHIT SHE WAS FR?!!! THOUGHT SHE WAS FF”

I like when she says stuff like that, it gives her spice

[odd thicket]

no

mavuika is present for at most 2 lines

[lost quail]

So no you don’t have it?

Or no you don’t want to?

[odd thicket]

I dont have it

[lost quail]

I want her to punch someone so bad

It’s so funny.

[odd thicket]

that one line is the least outstanding thing

about the quest

Dain is ltierally in it
so is the sibling

[lost quail]

Oh…yay…Dain..

[odd thicket]

The ||Sustainer|| also is present

is there a lore related tag that i could get

[reef axle]

I'd say just log in and do it. It's literally just a single check box at the main menu/floaty bridge loading screen, you dont even have to actually go into the game

Takes like, 10 seconds max to fill out

[reef axle]

Tag thing is on a per server basis, so you'd have to find a lore-focused discord with enough server boosts for one 👀

[odd thicket]

Nono

I mean

The tag that appears under my profile

[reef axle]

"Roles"?

Cause tags are the bit that says "MULT" for you rn

[lost quail]

Oh thank god

If I believed there was

[odd thicket]

Oh mb
I have confused roles and tags

Is there a role for lore

[reef axle]

Nah, server is pretty close to the limit w/ how many roles it has, so theres no aesthetic/just for looks roles like that

[odd thicket]

Oh

Capitano mains are coping big time

Atm

[lilac coral]

Ye, the only lore roles we have are for staff and the announcements

[odd thicket]

also ty for clicking on that link

[stoic spade]

np pookie

[mental flame]

Kris Deltarune

shall kill Sans Undertale

thus, the prophecy's tragedy shall be averted

[queen prawn]

Silk song when

[lilac coral]

I forgot who talked about it before, I think maybe flash, about the timeline for mare jivari and apparently they do actually mention it in-game now

Albeit when you talk to the guy in the camp at dragonspine, weirdly enough

[lilac coral]

This new keqing VA sounds rad too
https://youtu.be/1jsbtCihkLg?si=0J8S6H-1Ooio5ngz

[spark portal]

What the fuck is this? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? ||DO I NEED TO MAKE A DECISION THAT 'COULD' CHANGE THE WHOLE ENDING OF THE GAME BASED ON A FUCKING KEY||

[spark portal]

||WHAT THE FUCK IS THE ABYSS SIBLING TRYING TO MAKE BRO? THIS SHIT IS GETTING WEIRD||

Is this what actually happened during the intro of the game (spoiler 5.7 alert)
||https://fixvx.com/maddersjt/status/1935608372616630376?t=gta3uPkVKP41VdkGw4jyLA&s=19||

Sam Tabler (@maddersjt)

↪️ Replying to @timelyviatwins

@timelyviatwins The problem I have with this is: where is the ship now? Because in the opening of the game it appears they were trying to leave Teyvat via just flying off it themselves without a ship.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 19, 2025, 7:59 AM

https://fixvx.com/ceohimeko/status/1935659816615366750?t=LBFA7ZQ3gDHzhTzyD7akGA&s=19

Do you guys think that the Sakura tree will make an appearance again in the lore?

kiwi c0r1 skirk!! (@ceohimeko)

↪️ Replying to @ceohimeko

Ashikai explains the Sacred Sakura Tree situation quite well here in the chapter The Parable of the Sacred Sakura:

https://youtu.be/SZv2tpEksXg?si=jbUcYtPYrd232ME5

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 19, 2025, 11:23 AM

Sorry for spam

[queen prawn]

||Outside Teyvat,why can't people think of the possibility of it being outside the continent ||

[spark portal]

||https://fixvx.com/eterrnelle/status/1935254740235067584?t=kN0Y7mi4kEbIs8EH0vTdGw&s=19

She has been eavesdropping on us from the beginning.||

luna *ੈ𑁍༘⋆ waiting for phainon (@eterrnelle)

genshin 5.7 spoilers //

SHE was listening… https://t.co/b0Qv1M0HtO

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 18, 2025, 8:34 AM

[queen prawn]

|| Don't worry,it actually won't change the story,if you gave the key,Abyss Sibling won't gave their,if you do,they will,to ensure the timeline doesn't change||

[lost quail]

I’m confused on how Arle isnt Arle can’t hold her own against Capitano when we know what her abilities are

Like she’s hypersonic abd hyper aware as shit in battle and and summon literally webs spikes and lasers

Is Capitano like .. equally hypersonic? Like…I’m asking this genuinely
Not saying she beats him just holds her own

[odd thicket]

Harbingers are ranked on strength

Prime Capitano was stronger than past mavuika

And tbh

Most khaenrian knights would beat arle

especially from the black serpent school

[lost quail]

So explain how the fuck Dottore got in

[lost quail]

I’m trying to find where in the 7 rings of hell did I say “beat” I said hold own

[odd thicket]

We dont know his strength

But i can argue him being stronger than capitano

Because of the nature of cloning

[odd thicket]

Oh mb

[lost quail]

????????? I could clone several of me thst doesnt mean im beating Capitano

[odd thicket]

She wont be able to hold her own vs capitano

Capitano is actually immortal

Recent Aq and Sq show powerful the immortality is

[odd thicket]

A clone of Dottore beat Ursa the Drake

That won the favour of mondsdadt for the fatui

Ursa the Drake was impossible for even Venti, Varka and other mond characters

Diluc’s dad used a delusion and still couldnt beat it

Ursa the drake was too strong for vanessa as well

[lost quail]

Ok lemme clarify what “hold own” means because you seem to think “hold own” means “I can kill you”/nm

I mean, she can put up a fight. NOT WIN. Put up a fight. I can be stronger than you, but you can put up a fight against me.

She’s not a mere vision holder.

[lost quail]

Then evidently since its ranked on strength there’s something missing

[odd thicket]

Dottore being able to clone also pitches the possibility of him being able to manipulate leylines to create copies of himself, to hijack some control over life on teyvat

[lost quail]

Cloning does that anyway

[odd thicket]

He is also proficient in god creation

Or the science behind it

[lost quail]

Someone should take that up with the Tsaritsa then

[odd thicket]

Dottore/ Zandik also DOES know about human evolution and its restrictions on teyvat

Some of the clones could be specialised to use it

[lost quail]

Like I said

Something must be missing then because if all that’s the case, why is he number 1. And Dottore is 2.

[odd thicket]

No no i get you
Being able to put up a fight yes
Never be able to beat, also yes
But i say she wont be able to hold on for long, capitano can always use his Modified heart and knock out Arlechinno

And on pure combat she can definitely hold on long enough to run away

[odd thicket]

My excuses : Dottore pursues knowledge for the sake of Tsaritsa and defying Celestia
Not for his own pursuits (yet)

Dottore clones himself to further his own research

Dottore is championing teyvatian science to parallel pierro’s past in Khaenriah ‘s University and not as combat capable to fight capitano and win

The nod krai trailer hints that his goal is to control the fake sky itself

Rather than tear it down

If he could control the fake sky he can control fate of every being on teyvat

Despite being harbinger number four, arlecchino is not in the Fatui’s inner circle

Where capitano, dottore, pierro and possibly columbina are

[lost quail]

That’s what I was trying to tell you.
I didn’t say she could beat him at all. I said based on her combat abilities she can put up a good fight. Hell we don’t know how much stronger she actually is considering she was holding back fighting us.

One sec. Hair wash.

[odd thicket]

Oh, i dont dispute that. Sorry for the confusion earlier

Anyways

I realised that

Teyvat is headed towards destruction with the end of samsaras

According to Rene’s world formula

None of the nations are in samsara

Khaenriah was the final one

At least thats what i thought until 5.7

Dainsleif is in an ||eternal samsara|| of the self

Khaenriah tries to cheat by establishing outside of the samsara

[lost quail]

Tbf she doesn’t f with them as a group that much

[lost quail]

Ooo so dottore could be the actual 1st

Dunno why there’s no position evolution

[odd thicket]

tru dat

[odd thicket]

tsartsa at the end of natlan aq still ranked capitano as #1

[lost quail]

Which is dumb

[odd thicket]

idts

capitano mains know he still is not dead dead

his body is immortal, his soul is in the leylines awaiting rechurning

and rebirth, "death" etc

ig she knows thrain can always come back

as a different and new soul

have you played paralogism ?

[lost quail]

Ur ok!
It got me questioning cuz she is shown to be very hypersonic and aware.
I feel like she’d get hits in but I think Capitano is faster than that

[odd thicket]

Not just that
This patch just elevated khaenrians even more

In the powerscaling context

Especially the eclipse dynasty ones

But Capitano is the swan knight is he not ?

[lost quail]

It came about because I was like “this woman could canonically kill Alastor the radio demon. I’m not sure why she’s 4th. “ tho tbf he’s pretty slow. Even with Alastors shadow attacks, she’s canonically fast enough to dodge, block and slice through pretty fast attacks

I have adhd hi

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cheetu-bingo-hunterxhunter-zoldyk-cheetu-death-gif-19062210

Speed doesnt guarantee safety

I have adhd too

[lost quail]

She’s khaenrian tho? This is stated multiple times

[odd thicket]

She isnt

Shes an orphan descended from the crimson dynasty

Which was defunct for a really really long while before Eclipse Dynasty and King Irmin

Capitano was in Khaenriah during its prime and in a time where overthrowing celestia was the national goal

[lost quail]

Speed guarantees advantage. He’s too slow for her. Even with his shadows. But Capitano is a different beast

[odd thicket]

And trained ruthlessly for it, going by the current AW

[odd thicket]

No like
In that gif i replied to you with

Its a speedster being taken out by a brawler

It can become an issue if you have speed but no perception

Or a false one

Capitano can use his leyline heart and attack Arlecchino’s already weak leyline control

(Clervie’s soul or memory is forever beside arlecchino and haunts her)

She can also see the souls of other people she killed

Capitano can control this phenomenon and has for 500 odd years

Guthred’s soul almost killed Xilonen in the blink of an eye

Hmm

I guess i went on a tangent

Again

Forgive me

[lost quail]

She does? I said she was hypersonic and aware aka she’s hyper aware. I’m telling you, He is too slow for her( Alastor) and too aware with stupid fast reflexes. Even if bro attacked in abd out of shadow form, vro is cooked because of that fact. And she’s shown to have a shit ton of strength. Alastor is fucked.

Capitano is stronger than both.

[lost quail]

Don’t apologize for that!!

[odd thicket]

Who is alastor, the hazbin hotel character ?

[lost quail]

Yeah.

That’s why I was like “if she could take out a demon like that how come in her own game she’s 4th that’s some bullshit”

[odd thicket]

Its just the top 3 are on level of gods

Columbina is the next ||Welkin or fourth moon||

dottere is the strongest regular human on teyvat that is not an archon or abyss affiliated , and most knowledgeable too, vexing Nahida with mere words

Capitano is Khaenrian and of the Swan Knights

No clue how much stronger Pierro is

After recent AQ i say he is genuinely the strongest Khaenrian bar Dainsleif alive

[odd thicket]

Arlecchino’s power also depends on the final act of the story

Tbh

We dont know how her fate fares

Fate too determines some level of power

[lost quail]

Like she was able to kill a harbinger at 17 this is crazy. we don’t know how strong she actually is.

But all that seems fair tbh. Now I’m like “ok that makes sense”

Arle also doesnt really instigate
She won’t scrap unless prompted

[odd thicket]

Same with Childe

He was deliberately taught little by Skirk to protect him

Though by now he should be far stronger than most harbingers tbh

[lost quail]

He should be 5th Ngl

[odd thicket]

And 5.6 archon quest does tease what can possibly happen to him

[lost quail]

How is that elf on the shelf 5th

[odd thicket]

5th is Sandrone

[lost quail]

??

[odd thicket]

If you played the narzzizzenkreuze ordo quests you would know

[odd thicket]

Pulcinella is ninth

[odd thicket]

Nah gemini is wrong

Oh mb

It is indeed pulcinella

Yes

I am sorry 😭

[lost quail]

You’re ok

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-yoda-lol-judge-size-gif-4833532

Pulcinella is probably strong

Really strong

[lost quail]

Unless he has what yoda has bro better be 4th cuz of political power

5th

My bad

Tho maybe he can lift a boulder

Iansan exists

So shit you might be right

[odd thicket]

Genshin powerscaling is usually way above expectations and weird

Surtologi can capture entire stars

Narwhal can devour planets

[lost quail]

That’s a cosmic narwhal
You’re comparing a Tsar bomb to an infant

[odd thicket]

Dainsleif can tear through abyss order’s forces like hot knife through butter

[odd thicket]

Ever narwhal upscale is also childe upscale

Childe cannot ever be a descender

Without external help

But he surely can surpass arlecchino and maybe even the captain tbh
Skirk believes he has potential to rival her

Then theres the matter of his fate because of his name Ajax

There is one way arlecchino can become stronger imo

Its somehow finding the crimson moon or learning her dynasty’s practices

To aid her fight with her blood illness

[lost quail]

I don’t see why she wouldn’t
Pierro gave her a literal book bout it

Her curse is another reason why I feel like we don’t actually know how strong she is

[odd thicket]

Yeah

Shes got some moon stuff to learn

We need more crimson lore stuff

We have been getting solely Eclipse dynasty bits and pieces for years now

[lost quail]

That’s what I’m saying

I don’t wanna hear bout eclipse moon anymors

[odd thicket]

They did take khaenriah to their highest highs

And produced five sinners

Each capable of destroying teyvat

And Dainsleif, capitano

If you didnt know

Surtologi does not have ||an arm and leg||

[lost quail]

What that mean? I wanna hear bout crimson moon.
Does Arle even know how strong she could be?

[odd thicket]

With eclipse dynasty khaenriah came close to descender status

After overthrowing crimson moon

Maybe moon stuff can upscale arle

[lost quail]

Ok
I wanna know bout other moons tho, eclipse could’ve cured cancer, great now I’m interesting in other moons /lh

[lost quail]

That’s what I’m saying
Girl needs to find answers

[odd thicket]

Moons are directly related to dragons

[lost quail]

I’m not sure why were supposed to assume she’s not from khaenriah when it’s stated to be

Genshin pisses me off with that shit

[odd thicket]

And the voyager who inhabited the first Ajax and likely founded Khaenriah

[odd thicket]

There are two possibilities

After recent AQ

1. Shes a descendant of the deposed Crimson Moon dynasty who dwindled to nothing on Teyvat until Arle by chance and fate had crimson moon powers

2. She is from ||the past, after khaenriah is brought back in the future in its own space time. Kaeya’s birth family is also alleged to have come to mondsdadt this way||

[lost quail]

This fucking lore man

[odd thicket]

Time travel is real in genshin

Ever since raiden sq2

[lost quail]

How would she even do that? She was like 6 she had to have come from somewhere

HOYO BRING ARLE STORY QUEST 2

[odd thicket]

She didnt do that
Abyss sibling, istaroth, sustainer of hp, or her parents did it

[odd thicket]

You spelled ||Columbina archon quest|| wrong

Oh wait

I forgot wanderer in this mix

[lost quail]

Arle is a whole mystery
That means eho entire life is a fucking lie

Her*

[odd thicket]

Its likely worse for Columbina

Going by some rumours

Anyways thats in the future

Its weird how arlecchino is never deemed important as her hearth is

For Pierro’s plan or project stuzhta

But childe somehow is important

Ig its to hijack the Ajax fate

[lost quail]

Her parents fucking died. She was raised by a grade A bitch, her curse could kill her or turn her into a fucking monster depending on whatever it feels like doing, she has to worry about the safety of her children all the time, she had to kill her own best friend

Now her life might be a damn lie. Because she might not even be khaenrian. Which means she’ll never actually know how she got here or where she’s actually from.

[odd thicket]

Theres the bit of true memories her story quest stresses on

She will never get to know

[lost quail]

“You’re not actually from Khaenriah. You technically shouldnt even exist as there’s no reason why you should”

Her:

[odd thicket]

Unless someone or something from the past hss her recall

[odd thicket]

Play this Dain AQ

You might like it

The crimson moon’s revenge is still not expanded on in the backstory of the cataclysm

And the importance of memories is brought up again

[lost quail]

Based on how she came to be? She quite literally shouldnt be here.

Like..she literally shouldnt. Fate brought her about with crimson powers..what if..she’s actually supposed to carry something out on behalf of Crimsom moon? And that’s why she’s here.

If she’s from the past, she would have to be from Khaenriah, because there’s literally no other place her and Kaeya could’ve been from. There’s no other area. No other place she could’ve been from.

So who and WHAT is she?? Heavy on what is she

[lost quail]

So you’re saying it could still be seeking or was seeking revenge and had a part in the cataclysm??

[lost quail]

Shit I kinda do want to!!!

[lost quail]

She doesn’t remember where she came from herself and what she does think and has thought her whole life might not even be true. I find that sad asf because like you said “she’ll never know”

[lost quail]

Both need to come I’m not playing. Because Arle part two and Columbina part one could be EXTREMELY lore heavy.

[odd thicket]

This quest furthers Khaenria’s past and future

Cant say any further

[odd thicket]

The dynasty did, not the moon itself so yeah

[odd thicket]

Prolly for the better, like she did with her past wards

[lost quail]

How the fuck- if she never learns this information imma be mad as sin I’m not playing.

[odd thicket]

Its most likely just Columbina and maybe ||Nicole||. Skirk has a very interesting voice line about ||Nicole||

[lost quail]

What if she did know

[odd thicket]

She doesnt remember clervie so

(Does she?)

[lost quail]

She doesn’t Remember Clervie??? She..remembers Clervie I’m not sure why she wouldn’t? She was able to in her story quest

[odd thicket]

Traveller would know and that is all that matters

[lost quail]

WHAT?? 😭

[odd thicket]

Iirc she suppresses or erased her own memories with Dottore’s help and that was heavily implied by her SQ

[odd thicket]

Traveller is meant to experience all of teyvat and learn the “truth of the world”

Traveller knows about all fates and stories except Little One’s

This was intended by the Primordial One

They kept the travellers trapped in teyvat for some undisclosed reason

It is the primordial one in traveller’s introduction too btw

[lost quail]

I- for what??? Wait I forgot why she

Was it because she thought it would be better for her to move on? Both her and Clervie? Because like-
And I asked why she shouldnt know about all that and why she shouldnt know. What if she did find out

Because how does that not fuck your brain up

[lost quail]

I get that but that didn’t stop everyone else from knowing shit

[odd thicket]

Yes and yes
It would fuck her up and she would erase it once more

[odd thicket]

Knowing what?

[lost quail]

What we already know. Since when was us needing to know the truth immediately rule out others from knowing what we know? They have books n shit

[odd thicket]

Sometimes the information is better kept confidential

Skirk sq stresses upon that

So much is kept from Paimon

Alice also stresses on that

And Arlecchinno is better off not knowing

And even if she did, she may not actually use that information anymore

Her priorities are her wards and not the paths and dreams taken from her

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-fury-road-charlize-gif-26110809

[lost quail]

I wouldnt blame her. Do you know how much of a bombshell that would be? And if her existence is tied to The crimson moon and the future it could mean for Teyvat

Why the-I mean for her own sanity I agree with you. That shit could even make her go fucking coocoo. Likw what do you mean she’s not meant to exist? What do you mean she’ll never know why or how she got here because the dynasty got wiped out??

[odd thicket]

And no one else can exploit or use knowing the truth of arlecchino’s past

[lost quail]

Wards?

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-lyncest-neynette-lynelyne-rinerine-gif-2287416622066609098

[lost quail]

Donyou know how many people should be looking for her right now???

[odd thicket]

Nope

[lost quail]

How the fuck is no one else looking for her???

[odd thicket]

Play Dain AQ

You will understand

Loom of Fate has a lot to do with it

And the Abyss sibling

I cant spoil it any further (beyond the crumbs i had spilt here)

[lost quail]

The fact she’s a mystery alone and holds alot of clues about the past is a huge reason why people should be looking for her right now actually

Or at least why we shouldn’t fucking know. I can’t stand that actually. How are you gonna make a literal mystery. A borderline glitch in the system and not explore that further

That pmo

I don’t mean dead people

I mean people trying to research the different moons and dynasties

This woman should literally be in a lab

She’s a borderline alien.

[lost quail]

HER CHILDREN??? why wards?

[odd thicket]

Technically wards

She cares for the other kids besides the three too

[lost quail]

Technically wards?

[odd thicket]

Kaeya is even bigger a mystery

So is Chlothar albrecht

[lost quail]

That’s what I’m fucking saying
How come the devs are treating these two likw we shouldnt ask questions

[odd thicket]

Well
Ajax is the prize even then
Not her

[lost quail]

That’s annoying as shit

[odd thicket]

5.6 AQ puts Ajax’s importance way way high up

[odd thicket]

Wards = children she should care for as a guardian

[odd thicket]

Devs know and are slowly drip feeding the backstory

Nod Krai is meant to answer most of them

But Kaeya, Childe, ||Durin||, Wanderer all play a huge part in the final act and khaenriah

[lost quail]

I don’t give a hootinanny. And doesnt really negate what I said. He could be Jesus Christ abd thst wouldnt make me wanna know more about Arle or Kaeya. Their lore is irritatingly richb

[odd thicket]

They will get their time and day
Kaeya got his two years ago
Childe and skirk are getting so much love right now

[odd thicket]

Childe’s lore connects to Arlecchino and Kaeya in a roundabout fashion

Because Ajax the hero is allegedly the first Khaenrian

And in teyvat people with same names share same fates

[lost quail]

I find people who aren’t meant to exist and ehy they do more important than Ajax I’m dead ass

Not saying I don’t wanna know more about Childe. I love child snd I’m just as curious. But that’s not an excuse to ignore something as big as Arle’s entire fucking existence. Kaeya’s too.
That’s like if I added a character out if no where in a story
People are going to want to know why they were added. You can’t do that

[odd thicket]

And Ajax the hero was the vessel for a descender and was from Nod Krai / Sneznaya and related to the moons

[lost quail]

I see I see

[odd thicket]

Arle’s and Kaeya’s existence ties back to Childe and Ajax

Thats where i was getting at

Ajax connects the Seelies and moons to khaenriah

[lost quail]

This is explained in Dani’s quest?

[odd thicket]

5.5 skirk artefact description

And 5.6 archon quest

5.7 Dain quest does not give any info on arlecchino and kaeya’s possible origin until the very end in the lore drop/ twist/ revelation

Skirk SQ does not give any info for arle and kaeya

[lost quail]

Like ok I understand why Arle might be better off not knowing. Cuz would you wanna know that shit?? So I get that. I’m talking about the inconsistency of why in Dante’s inferno no one, not even Dottore is treating Arle’s existence like mystery. If I were them I’d find this chick. AND Kaeya

[lost quail]

Ok ok

Lemme

Alright thst makes sense

[odd thicket]

Tbf

Columbina, pierro, childe, are right there
Priorities priorities

Also if you want to talk of an important mysterious character being brushed off, emergency food is right there 😭

[odd thicket]

Arle knowing it also would compromise the safety of her kids

Tsaritsa would definitely know of her divided loyalties

Any more info than necessary given to her makes her a rogue agent

Actually

I think i figured out why

Once dottore got her blood samples

Arle’s importance was spent

Since crimson moon still abided by the rules of teyvat, their powers can be decoded and emulated

And dottore was planning to hijack irminsul and fate itself so arlecchino’s importance as the last crimson moon descendant was gone

[lost quail]

I didn’t even say they weren’t important in fact all you did was talk about them./nm

Someone being more of a priority doesnt negate from the fact that the other is still a mystery and could unlock knew information on how the world of Teyvat works. You don’t brush off important character lore cuz other characters are “right there” that’s not how that works/nm

The biggest mystery is the human brain that doesn’t stop me from being curious about the creation of the universe. No matter if the priority is the latter. You get what I’m saying ( even tho the creation of the universe for me is the Big Bang.)

I hope I don’t sound upset I’ve been trying to get my point across

[odd thicket]

No no i get you

I kept meandering about arle instead of getting to her matter at hand

Sorry

Back to arle

Frostmoon - Nod Krai
Eternal Moon- inazuma / Mare Jivari
Crimson Moon- Khaenriah

According to skirk, two were destroyed and their debris was outside the firmament

The third was inside teyvat, but showed no signs of life

[lost quail]

To him sure. Not to others
Not to scholars not to me

“Yeah let’s forget about this one, never mind her existence alone posing a multitude of questions..thst doesnt matter because we have this other guy”

[odd thicket]

If crimson moon was in khaenriah and the silent one,

[lost quail]

No I’m not saying you’re wrong at all, because you’re right. Childe is a bigger mystery and goal to find than Arlecchino especially with the shit you just told me, I’m still trying to process it.

I think I was misunderstanding you

[odd thicket]

No, i was being rude by meandering about arlechinno rather than give process info about her

Which is why i got a good guess on her mystery now

[lost quail]

Oh?

Spill

[odd thicket]

It will contain spoilers from 5.7

But i will spoiler tag them

[lost quail]

Also if Childe is the key to finding oyt more about Arle and Kaeya shit
Drop Childe lore too Hoyo. Bro is secretly Jesus

[odd thicket]

||arlecchino was from khaenriah itself, her parents were crimson moon dynasty hiding out / criminals in the eclipse dynasty’s reign ||

in the Recent quest, sibling tries to ||bring back khaenriah using all memories salvaged by the abyss order and dain’s and using the loom of fate to create khaenriah as it was beside natlans leyline, in its own space and time||

In the beginning of the quest we meet ||a khaenrian who was brought back via memories and stuck between current day natlan and past khaenriah, hovering between both time and space||

through her, we go back to || meet present day sibling at khaenriah, as facilitated by Istaroth||

what am suggesting is

Kaeya and Arlecchino were from ||the past, brought into the far future where sibling re establishes Khaenriah, but with time and space fuckery, were left a few decades in the futute’s past||

So that ||Arlechinno’s family could still help in killing King Irmin|| and Kaeya was left in Mond by his father

[odd thicket]

Theres also another guess

That dainsleif is descended from the crimson moon dynasty

He is allegedly responsible for deposing King Irmin

During the cataclysm

[lost quail]

Dain is beefed ok
I’m not surprised

It’s dainsleif

[lost quail]

I liked this read thank ya! I’m not that worried bout spoilers in Genshin anymore since the game lost its luster. But I do still wanna watch the story quests

I plan on returning when Nhod Krai is out

[odd thicket]

happens after nearly 4 years of story letdowns

when they finally begin serving the audience just isnt there

[odd thicket]

you may want to return for the natlan/ dragon/ mare jivari stuff at least

natlan has been the best yet for story

which reminds me

i just found a good parallel between arlecchino and phlogiston

phlogiston can carry personalities and memories

in arlecchino's case, her fire is produced by her blood and she can hold the souls/ memories of those she dispatched

maybe she is sick because of her unstable elemental nature rather than a "curse" and the stress of holding onto memories not hers ?

in skirk sq we see that human body even if immortal can be sick and tortured by hosting powers beyond their capacity

[lost quail]

I’m guessing Arle was brought to the future as her family fought, due to protection. Same with Kaeya, but why them?

Also why give her these abilities? Did the people have the curse or just her? If not, ehy was she cursed or chosen to bear the memories of those she’s killed? How come Kaeya isnt the same?

[lost quail]

Is that the same thing in Natlan tech?

[lost quail]

I mean I’m so so about it. It started off kinda meh to me, and the fighting was the only interesting stuff. It’s gotten better now. But Natlan was a let down for other reasons

[odd thicket]

arle is the last of the crimson moon dynasty so an angel or shade like ronova/istaroth brought them to the far future
same with kaeya, lost of the regent family and help mitigate the cataclysm

[odd thicket]

yep !

[odd thicket]

is it the design choices ?

[lost quail]

Yesssss

[odd thicket]

it was bound to be

natlan had the nerd engineer dragon

and every region was more technoligically advanced than the res

t

natlan had a pretty good reason as to why

[lost quail]

I see..why?
You you see how this makes me more curious?

[odd thicket]

yep

[lost quail]

No no I meant character designs and ladidah character writing

[odd thicket]

ladidah ? you dont mean mavuika do you ?

character designs can be excellent to weird

for every kinich mav we have, chasca exist

[lost quail]

No la di dah like a song. But it’s to equate to nonsensical or express nonsense

[odd thicket]

ah

[lost quail]

A lot of designs in Genshin arent very good at depicting the regions theyre based from snd Natlan was BAD. Worse than Sumeru. Not to mention the story was boring as shit imo until now. It was a disappointment but there were some things I really liked

I liked the music and some parts of the story

Like the fighting and night kingdom fight with that dragon

I wish more characters got lore

Xilonen is one of them

Xilonen is a whole other can of worms. She’s a fucking stem genius. I really feel like she could find make a super computer

I’m convinced.

[odd thicket]

the weekly boss ?

[lost quail]

Because she can make an ancient bike. Forge ancient names and has the ability to make combat inventions like Chascas gun, Kachinas drill
People were like “with the information Xilonen knows how come she didn’t help that much” she can work with the phlogiston

This woman is a genius what the shit

[odd thicket]

she makes ancient names and that is the pinnacle of smiths like her

[odd thicket]

the bike was made using alice's plans btw

but humans can only use phlogiston so well

xilonen still is a gemsmith

[lost quail]

That she comprehended and put together thst didn’t even take that long to make.

Imagine Dottore getting a hold onto her

[odd thicket]

phlogison mastery is still restricted to dragons for some odd reason

Like Ajaw, Kulkukan are not real dragons

they are AI

[lost quail]

That can make advanced technology…she is an engineer by definition.

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-ajaw-kinich-dancing-dinosaur-gif-15685030148751492133

[odd thicket]

can be seen that way yes

[odd thicket]

tbh their specialties diverge a lot

or dottore already is better than her

tbh

Dottore was studying and manufacturing ruin guards that are aeons above what most nations have produced

[lost quail]

What

Do you mean by that. That’s legit what that is. She literally made half the casts weaponry and was able to make an ancient name for an outlander that was thought to be impossible. I will not let you sleep on this woman/lh/silly

[odd thicket]

Dottore also deals with god stuff
he made the shiko no kami or scaramouche boss

Dottore's specialties is in God making