I see I see
#・lore-basement
lilac coral
I mean, from the look of it you've focused solely on arlecchino's story quest, yeah?
stuck rover
lilac coral
But there's more to it than just her quest, there's the archon quest with the twins, there's past quests like the hidden inazuma one with the spy, etc
stuck rover
The bad guy in vimara village "Trofin Snezhevich"
lilac coral
But yeah, I'd say you could always just reread everything pertaining to the hearth if you're really dead set on it
It wouldn't hurt
lost quail
I mean, from the look of it you've focused solely on arlecchino's story quest, y...
Her teaser too
lost quail
But there's more to it than just her quest, there's the archon quest with the tw...
I seee
I always assumed it was a plot hole
Why did yall let me rant and rave like that, yall could’ve told me this 
lilac coral
Because I'm exhausted 99% of the time
lost quail
Fair
lilac coral
And don't have the energy to respond to long rants
stuck rover
I just arrived 
But it's fine it happens 
And it's good to ask questions tbh, your question wasn't dumb you simply didn't know about it 
lost quail
I get it lol.
I just don’t know why people assume it’s easy for her to change it to a regular orphanage like she could snap her fingers
stuck rover
People talk stuff all the time, don't pay too much attention to them, quite a lot of plot points will get resolved in the future, so just gotta wait till the time comes
lost quail
I see
Thank yall for ending my turmoil
stuck rover
You're welcome 
lost quail
Lmfao your patience is nice
stuck rover
Got it from my father 
lost quail
Ayyyyy
Unintentional pun
stuck rover
something like that
lilac coral
No problem lol
lost quail
So to reiterate Arle can’t stop it because it DOES benefit the fatui and the Tsaritsa sees it as a benefit and she wouldn’t allow it to be changed given its huge benefit to the Fatui correct?
I think I said that a while ago but was gaslit by myself
Yall
I need Xilonen lore next
lilac coral
So to reiterate Arle can’t stop it because it DOES benefit the fatui and the Ts...
That is the assumption, yes
That and arle physically saying that it'd be dangerous for them to leave considering how much information they have
lost quail
True
lost quail
That and arle physically saying that it'd be dangerous for them to leave conside...
I had to fix my sentence because I have a problem with typing too fast
lilac coral
No worries
lost quail
What if you called her an orphan to her face
She kept taunting me the whole fight in the story quest and I was like “but at least I have my parents???”
“At least I have both of my parents???”
I love Arlecchino btw
I’m the type to trash talk my favorite characters I literally make fun of her for not seasoning her food
odd thicket
Arle does seem fed up with the inhumane practices shes compelled to follow
She states she would not hesitate going after Dottore or Tsaritsa for the traveller or for her wards later
lilac coral
“At least I have both of my parents???”
Damn, you are lucky lol
lilac coral
i just realized, but does every hoyoverse character who uses a scythe also related to butterflies in some way? lol
seele, arle (although barely), and castorice all do
white nimbus
There's Hugo from ZZZ
odd thicket
YumeGlorpGlorp
onyx fossil
I fucking love glorp
stuck rover
True and real 
stuck rover
i just realized, but does every hoyoverse character who uses a scythe also relat...
I just searched it up and Rita Rossweisse from hi3 uses a scythe but she does not have butterflies in any animation. I think it's a new trend from hoyo 
lilac coral
Ooh okay
queen prawn
Meanwhile hutao,a polearm user is related to butterfly god of Liuye 
Also,butterfly god is just random title I came up with, because it is kinda is hutao's bloodline theme
stoic spade
Butterfly is associated with souls and death, hu tao is funeral parlor, and scythe are associated with grim reaper, it's a common combo
lilac coral
Meanwhile hutao,a polearm user is related to butterfly god of Liuye <:C_TaoHehe:...
Oh yeah, I forgot about her LOL
mental flame
lost quail
I always have to come to yall when I see this shit
Is this true?
They could be right and I still won’t care until i hear yall confirm it/hj
I need yall to tell me which ancient hero’s she was talking about
And if she’s even seen Xilonen because it’s my understanding that she was on a 500 year travel in her bike.
Can we not… know the difference??
Tho to clarify, I’m focusing on the difference alone
Like there is a difference
I don’t even ship them as much as I ship Xilonen and Chasca but like….
There is a difference
reef axle
(Whole thing seems pretty silly considering that Mavuika is a normal human. She doesn't have any "actually 7000 years old" stuff that some other characters do, she's literally the age she looks. She was just in stasis for 500 years)
odd thicket
I always have to come to yall when I see this shit
Is this true?
Which ser of natlan heroes ?
odd thicket
(Whole thing seems pretty silly considering that Mavuika is a normal human. She ...
She has memories of 2000 years ago stuff
reef axle
She has memories of 2000 years ago stuff
Not sure what memories you're referring to here (or if she called them her own memories), but Mavuika is very much a normal human. Her Character Story 3 explicitly confirms it
Mavuika was born to a very ordinary family of the Scions of the Canopy. Her mother was bold and passionate but lacked caution, while her father was knowledgeable but taciturn, and the two would constantly clash from the moment they were married.
Once, when Mavuika and her father were teaching her, Hine asked a question:
"If all the Pyro Archons are just humans, how can we be sure that every person who becomes one will be willing to protect us?"
"It's precisely because we are all ordinary people that we don't need such guarantees."
lost quail
(Whole thing seems pretty silly considering that Mavuika is a normal human. She ...
Ppl called xilonen x mavuika a proship
I also wanted an excuse to get xilonen and mavuika lore
odd thicket
Not sure what memories you're referring to here (or if she called them her own m...
No i dont dispute that
I stated she has memories from all previous pyro archons
odd thicket
Ppl called xilonen x mavuika a proship
I also wanted an excuse to get xilonen a...
What is a proship ?
reef axle
Wouldnt be that surprising with how Genshin likes to play around with memories. Coffee's thing is sadly about a more literal question of age (cause that's the most tiktok comments can handle 💀)
odd thicket
Wouldnt be that surprising with how Genshin likes to play around with memories. ...
What about coffee ?
reef axle
What is a proship ?
It's the term for "Problematic ship" used by people a bit too deep in shipping discussion
reef axle
What about coffee ?
That's their discord username. Theyre the two emote name person
odd thicket
Ah
odd thicket
That's their discord username. Theyre the two emote name person
I thought you meant escoffier
Lol
odd thicket
Fair
reef axle
Ngl, thought it was a teacup the whole time
odd thicket
Wonder how they string the end of natlan plot in Mare
Also
Is there any relation between the travellers and stars ?
reef axle
Is there any relation between the travellers and stars ?
Yes, in varying amounts depending on how literal/metaphorical you want to get
odd thicket
Yes, in varying amounts depending on how literal/metaphorical you want to get
Both
Because on revisiting Ptahur’s descriptions
reef axle
But most directly, the Traveler is called a rising star/has allusions made to the Morning Star (Venus/Lucifer) a few times
odd thicket
But most directly, the Traveler is called a rising star/has allusions made to th...
Is there any significance of the morning star ?
reef axle
Is there any significance of the morning star ?
...are you familiar with Lucifer?
odd thicket
...are you familiar with Lucifer?
No actually
Am a stranger to christian mythos outside of the Jesus main plot
reef axle
No actually
Am a stranger to christian mythos outside of the Jesus main plot
Lucifer = Satan = the devil (in a traditional sense)/the rebeller against the divine order (in the more modern contemporary reinterpretation)
He was strongly associated with Venus, whose nickname is the Morning Star
odd thicket
Lucifer = Satan = the devil (in a traditional sense)/the rebeller against the di...
So is Lucifer above the ars goetia demons ?
reef axle
Potentially
odd thicket
He was strongly associated with Venus, whose nickname is the Morning Star
Venus, the planet / goddess of love, ?
reef axle
It do be a Gnostic-inspired story after all
reef axle
Venus, the planet / goddess of love, ?
The physical planet
odd thicket
Oh venus is called the morning star because it is visible at dawn ?
reef axle
It's bright enought to be seen clearly in the morning, so "morning star" yeh
odd thicket
This is interesting
reef axle
Few more from my notes:
In Liyue's Archon Quest, the title is "A new star approaches" (CN uses "guest star", as in a type of star)
The Traveler's outfit is called "Rising Star" in both EN and CN
Kazuha when we first meet him:
Kazuha: Paimon... hmm... What a fascinating being. You two give off not only the essence of wind and earth, but also of... yes... the stars…
odd thicket
Is abyss sibling given star like adjectives ?
reef axle
Tbh, hard to tell considering we've gotten so little on them 💀
(Also havent updated my notes since Sumeru lol)
reef axle
Few more from my notes:
In Liyue's Archon Quest, the title is "A new star approa...
One more bit:
Phosphorus’ Guidance - Achievement - To complete this achievement, the player needs to follow 30 Seelie in Enkanomiya to their Seelie
Phosphorus = Greek term for the god of Venus/the morning star
(My notes were mostly trying to track mentions of "morning star" in the game)
lost quail
That's their discord username. Theyre the two emote name person
LOL
I should change my name
odd thicket
(My notes were mostly trying to track mentions of "morning star" in the game)
No star relation for the abyss sibling ?
reef axle
No star relation for the abyss sibling ?
I mean, there probably is considering they're our character's twin?
But keep in mind our knowledge on the sibling is pretty much limited to:
- Dain saying "we traveled together"
- Aranara talking about a golden haired person that helped em
- Khaenriahans talking about doing Abyss shenanigans w/ em
onyx fossil
I've been summoned
reef axle
no you haven't. back to bed gramps
onyx fossil
You are literally 7 years older than me
reef axle
it's about the age of the soul
onyx fossil
My lord
proper eagle
i miss this
lilac coral
Miss what
queen prawn
this
dense moss
lilac coral
Doesn't have to be a lot, they just hope for someone
lost quail
Lore readers of all I summon you
I’m struggling to remember why people said Mavuika had no flaws cuz I thought her self sacrifice thing was flaw? Like she had a self sacrificing issue
swift holly
white nimbus
I don't think it's a flaw. It just reinforces the thought that she's so perfect that she's willing to sacrifice herself for her nation
odd thicket
Lore readers of all I summon you
I’m struggling to remember why people said Ma...
people hate confident women in a leadership position especially without a show of vulnerability, as a baseline. Not throwing this at all mavuika haters but there are some who hate her for this
especially after furina and how her presentation was done
a good portion of the fanbase genuinely thinks furina is too meme derp and forget her high intelligence
you could see similar train of hate for raiden during aq
odd thicket
Lore readers of all I summon you
I’m struggling to remember why people said Ma...
as usual with archons, people never catch on to the further issues of the archon until its shoved to their faces during region event quests
a flaw i suspect is mavuika tends to ignore her own humanity and of others quite often
like she hid away her own nostalgia / longing for her family and tended to overstep boundaries and have xilonen work on off days
queen prawn
a good portion of the fanbase genuinely thinks furina is too meme derp and forge...
Is she really that smart? Aside from great acting skill and high mental endurance,I don't think she is smart
If you are talking about the musket event where she direct everything,it is because it is her major and she is good in that field for hundreds years
Also Nahida was hate by some because she is a kid
reef axle
If you are talking about the musket event where she direct everything,it is beca...
Specialized intelligence is still intelligence
Like Kaveh being a genius architect with the financial literacy of a gacha player
queen prawn
Specialized intelligence is still intelligence
Fine, though I wouldn't put Furina intelligence over her great acting and endurance
odd thicket
If you are talking about the musket event where she direct everything,it is beca...
no i did not mean that
odd thicket
Is she really that smart? Aside from great acting skill and high mental enduranc...
you need to be smart to have a great acting skill
she was also well versed with fontainian laws and could twist and slither around your words
shes hella smart, witty and cunning
Furina was able to twist the MCs tongue into knots and they had to exhaust all words in their arsenal to clock her as a Fraud
quick locust
sorry wtf why does the newer world quest just give you the option to wipe out all life on teyvat that isnt phlogiston-based
thats a bit
um
dark??
crazy
lilac coral
Someone hasn't been reading the books and notes scattered around the world 
lost quail
Is it odd for me to assume that arlecchino and her children didn't really doom the nation by having furina confess?
Because since the prophecy was happening right at that moment
She had to come clean
Focalors was ready
The only think Arle was wrong about was her accusation that furina was doing nothing
I was like “no pookie, she's trying to save you”
odd thicket
Is it odd for me to assume that arlecchino and her children didn't really doom t...
who charges them for that
this was bound to happen anyway, by fate
odd thicket
odd thicket
I heard people say that though
Albiet on X
some people havent thought over the plot after teh conclusion
reef axle
I heard people say that though
Albiet on X
That's just Twitter lore for ya
Only marginally better than TikTok lore
lilac coral
I prefer the twitter crack theories over the twitter lore
Or fan stories like dango's whole albedo storyline based around durin and his connection with him
odd thicket
twitter can have some great insights
proper eagle
well lore basement
lilac coral
Well come back then
lost quail
Oh hell no
odd thicket
So I had this discussion in KQM lore board
which leads me to believe
there exist similarities between Mare Jivari and the Egyptian Myth of Ra and Apep\
lost quail
Also
Like this is Ei vs Arle
Arle isn't winning the fight because she's not a god, but she could last A DAMN GOOD WHILE if we're looking at lore Arle.
Then again. Theres Ei’s slash…
Hmm
queen prawn
Ei can just spam her one shot attack and Arlecchino will cripple
lost quail
Ei can just spam her one shot attack and Arlecchino will cripple
True, Arle is pretty fast tho.
Hmmm
I'm not saying she can beat Ei, I'm just saying it won't be as quick as you're implying
queen prawn
Traveler was fast enough to dodge her attack,while Traveler was fighting Raiden Ei,I don't think it will help Arlecchino dodge her large scale attack
queen prawn
I'm not saying she can beat Ei, I'm just saying it won't be as quick as you're i...
I mean, Alrecchino speed can only help her with running,but it is useless against attack that can reach miles away
lost quail
If Arle can't beat Neuv you fr think she can beat the current strongest archon in the game?
Actually Arle held Traveler down
And they still lost to her, so I don't think he counts here
Also arent Ei’s slash attacks liner?
Again I'm just saying Arle will put up a fight. I'm not saying shed win
There's no way she could
I'm just saying, it's gonna be as quick as a snap of the finger when you consider their abilities
queen prawn
If Arle can't beat Neuv you fr think she can beat the current strongest archon i...
I count Traveler because Traveler skill is just as good or even better than archon/harbinger,just in term of power,we are overwhelmed and can't parry stronger attack(without buff)
queen prawn
If Arle can't beat Neuv you fr think she can beat the current strongest archon i...
We don't fully know how many skill both Ei and Alrecchino have but Ei can do side slash in the weekly
lost quail
I count Traveler because Traveler skill is just as good or even better than arch...
Then he really shouldn't because he was beaten by them both. Only beating Ei because of the will of the people
We're talking about Ei and Arle
I'm saying that inevitably the win is Eis that's a whole ass god.
lost quail
We don't fully know how many skill both Ei and Alrecchino have but Ei can do sid...
Arle again, has quick moves, can suspend herself in the air, can summon crimson spikes and shoot lasers….thats from the weekly boss
Arle is cooked but not without a fight is what you don't seem to unde
Understanding
Poor arle is gonna die
But will she hold her own? Yes
By the way, this came up because someone in another server said Arle was better than Ei gameplay wise
queen prawn
Arle again, has quick moves, can suspend herself in the air, can summon crimson ...
I personally think Ei would just blitz her and end the fight in instant but that would be lame,we are talking about god of lightning,no one else speed can match her
lost quail
And I thought they were being messy lmfso
queen prawn
And I thought they were being messy lmfso
They kinda is
Oh you mean the people or their gameplay
lost quail
I personally think Ei would just blitz her and end the fight in instant but that...
Blits kinda means nothing when you can dodge the slashes we see her do in the boss fight by mere suspension
Ngl you just made me wanna test this with venti
Thank you because I'm bored as hell
lost quail
They kinda is
People
I thought it was funny but I was like
“Dont do that bro”
I wish I had more characters that can hang in the sky..
But I was lame and didn't get Citlali
………..(I don't regret it)
queen prawn
lost quail
Lol
lost quail
But I see your point of view actually
lost quail
He is free
Sssss I know, but my stupid ass didn't get him in time because I was playing Infinity Nikki
Hate to spread the propaganda but uh
You you should try it
queen prawn
Hate to spread the propaganda but uh
You you should try it
I don't have time to play more than two games sorry
lost quail
Fair
queen prawn
I already suffered with hollow knight p5 challenge
lost quail
How was that?
queen prawn
Blits kinda means nothing when you can dodge the slashes we see her do in the bo...
Ei puppet: spam teleport,attack fast ,have one shot ability.
Arlecchino fight: Stand menacingly,tank your dmg, rarely run away and always brute force.
queen prawn
How was that?
Of course pain,you have to fight all the boss and final 2 are insanely hard,you died ,you have to do it all again
lost quail
That wasn't really Ei tho, that was the puppet
She did more than stand menacingly
I wanna go back and analyse the moves now lolol
Thank you for the cure for my boredom
queen prawn
That wasn't really Ei tho, that was the puppet
She did more than stand menacin...
I said "Ei puppet"
lost quail
Of course pain,you have to fight all the boss and final 2 are insanely hard,you ...
……..so I kinds wanna play so I can have a challenge but I KNOW I'm hnma rage
queen prawn
That wasn't really Ei tho, that was the puppet
She did more than stand menacin...
I fought them two enough to know their moveset, Arlecchino really don't move a lot,she either stand in the air and charge at you or stand in one place and snap her finger,only thing time she dodge is when you attack her with a bow
Or when she is walking towards you and charge at you
lost quail
That could be added to her actual movement though
But in not gonna like to you! I'm not! She might have an issue taking care of Ei puppet shield
BECAUSE I DID
queen prawn
While Ei do sometime stand in one place ,you have to destroy the "boom" to avoid damage
lost quail
I see isee
I'm still banking on half the moves being avoided by suspension, but she will get overwhelmed eventually and since Ei fought herself for 500 years
Are
Arle simply
Will not have the stamina
Plus she does get hurt using her Khanreian power
She hurts herself
queen prawn
I can't fact check this right now but I think Arlecchino also slowly drain her own health in the boss fight
lost quail
Does sheee? I gotta see
I gotta get her mats anyway
queen prawn
Does sheee? I gotta see
I gotta get her mats anyway
I watched a video,it seem like whenever she used her crimson spike/crimson wing she lose some health,you can see the HP bar turn red for a few second
I guess she doesn't slowly drain herself to death? Just hurt everytime she use her crimson power,I'm going to sleep now
odd thicket
Genshin x SU crossover
What is SU ?
lost quail
What is SU ?
Steven universe
odd thicket
That could be added to her actual movement though
But in not gonna like to you!...
Ei vs Arle would be weird because we dk Arle ‘s crimson moon background really well
lost quail
I hope we get info soon
odd thicket
Arle could defeat Ei
lost quail
Why do u think so?
odd thicket
Gods are overrated and the lowest place in the divine food chain imo
Only above seelies
odd thicket
Why do u think so?
If the crimson moon is indeed related to the moons themselves
That is
I view the moons to be on par with PO or at least above shades
odd thicket
Steven universe
Oh
odd thicket
I view the moons to be on par with PO or at least above shades
With how central the moons were to both dragons and unified civilisation, i see them as the zenith of importance on Teyvat
queen prawn
Being Crimson Dynasty test subject don't make her the same as the moon sister that why her title is "Flame between 2 world" . Also Raiden seem to related to eternity moon but so far it is unknown, also like previously state,using her(Arlecchino)power hurt her everytime,I doubt she can last someone who can just make her waste her move by teleport away
lilac coral
Ei's power hurts her?
lilac coral
Ohh
Since you didn't specify and were talking about ei being related to the eternity moon I figured you were still talking about her lol
But that makes more sense
odd thicket
Being Crimson Dynasty test subject don't make her the same as the moon sister th...
No no i didnt say she would be on par with moon sister
Just that her relation to it makes her formidable opponent for archons and other gods
reef axle
Just that her relation to it makes her formidable opponent for archons and other...
Nahida seems to disagree with that assessment
Nahida: You guessed correctly... The top-ranked Fatui Harbingers, up to No. 3, possess power comparable to that of gods. I was no match for him in that kind of situation.
white nimbus
Nahida may just not be confident in her combat abilities. While Ei is a warrior
odd thicket
Nahida seems to disagree with that assessment
> **Nahida:** You guessed correctl...
Arle can always power up
Shes no 4
And besides
Moon related powers should be a mystery to nahida even
As they are connected to the second descender somehow
And even precede them
Would crimson moon dynasty be recorded in irminsul ?
queen prawn
Nahida may just not be confident in her combat abilities. While Ei is a warrior
She also said she was no match in that situation
Meaning she can beat them now,just hide in Irminsul lmao
And destroy their mentality, assuming they have one,I won't talk about this more
queen prawn
Would crimson moon dynasty be recorded in irminsul ?
If not censored,yes.
lilac coral
If it was censored then pierro shouldn't have known about it unless he had some workaround with it
queen prawn
I think it just most of the world do not know much of Khaenriah history to know about the two dynasty
odd thicket
If it was censored then pierro shouldn't have known about it unless he had some ...
Harbingers have knowledge that is not known to the general populace though
Khaenrians of all people should have it
lilac coral
Harbingers have knowledge that is not known to the general populace though
There's a difference between having an intelligence on things not commonly known, like descenders, and having knowledge of something that's been entirely erased from the world's history and memory, like rukkha
Kheanri'ah people would have knowledge of it but if it was censored by the irminsul then they shouldn't is what I was saying lol
Unless he had a workaround
Censored = erased in this context, right?
Or is that not what you meant
Because that's the assumption I've been going off of when you said that 
lost quail
I hope they make when Arle and Columbina met clear
I like to think they actually began talking and they met a three or four years after Arle joined the Harbingers
We didn’t see Columbina in Arle’s teaser. And girlie can’t even see.
I don’t see them meeting as soon as Arle joined
I feel like they both seem introverted
reef axle
I hope they make when Arle and Columbina met clear
I like to think they actual...
Columbina can't see?
lost quail
Her eyes are always closed every single imagine made official or non her eyes are always closed.
So I I’m not sure how else to describe it.
Until it’s confirmed imma assume Arle and Columbina met like some time after Arle joined
Then again I can’t see why they couldn’t have met a year after Arle joined or something
queen prawn
Her eyes are always closed every single imagine made official or non her eyes ar...
She probably can scan the surrounding area
reef axle
I'm getting flashbacks to "Wrio is blind!"...
queen prawn
lilac coral
I'm assuming it's something like Medusa where if she opens her eyes you're absolutely fucked, rather than because she's blind
But they could also go in an angle of "this angel is blind to the evil around her"/see no evil
The reality is we just don't know yet lol
reef axle
I'm assuming it's something like Medusa where if she opens her eyes you're absol...
My guess would be that she has something special going on in her eyes that they're saving to reveal in a big moment 
queen prawn
6 eyes
fading tinselBOT
queen prawn
Columbina gonna hit us with the the Eclipse technique,combine Sun and Moon
lilac coral
Columbina gonna hit us with the the Eclipse technique,combine Sun and Moon
She is necrozma
lost quail
I feel when arle first joined they said hello to each other and then didn't really speak to each other after that
Just
“Hey”
“Hi”
“Bye”
lilac coral
idk, depending on if it's someone she knows or someone she's heard about, columbina seems "friendly" from the lazzo
but that was also just the 5 seconds of screen time she had
odd thicket
Censored = erased in this context, right?
Yeah
lost quail
but that was also just the 5 seconds of screen time she had <:kekw:8614407314621...
True true
My brain is headcanoning that they spoke to each other a year after she joined or later. Or they met later after she joined because columbina didn't have a reason to interact with her
But it's also possible they only just heard of each other. Or like I guessed before they just said hi then didn't interact much.
I know this is a lot of speculation for a character that isn't even released
reef axle
With exactly two lines of dialogue 
lost quail
But I still can speculate
It's totally not because I don't want anything to ruin this ship for me
It's not that at all
lilac coral
Lol
Nothing wrong with that as long as you don't become one of those people who are extremely combative over a head canon lol
lilac coral
WE FINALLY GET RAZOR LANGUAGE SKILL DESCRIPTIONS???
THANK FUCKING GOD
I'm getting so tired of everyone having novels for their descriptions
Now if only they could do this in HSR for characters too
reef axle
Venti on the version art tho...
lilac coral
ALBEDOOOO
Venti on there looks so mysterious
But I'm just happy to get content with them again
reef axle
yee
lilac coral
2021 😭
reef axle
he looks sus there
lilac coral
That's the last quest he had, huh
reef axle
2021 😭
was filling out a spreadsheet in the other window and forgot to click the window lol
ignore that
lilac coral
But dragonspine being in the bg and albedo being at the center with the traveler, my god I hope we get something really good and related to his last quests/events 
I've been waiting for them to expand on his relation to gold and nibelung and stuff
lilac coral
ignore that <:KEK:1024468566835204137>
I will, in fact, not ignore it and draw more attention to it
2021 was so long ago
This game is almost 5 years old
reef axle
I will, in fact, not ignore it and draw more attention to it
2021 was so long ...
I'm filling out a spreadsheet of AMVs not that long ago relatively
in Genshin terms tho, that's ancient
lilac coral
Yeah, it's wicked old for genshin
Didn't realize you were working on more amvs though lol
Or just cataloguing them
Anyway, I'm excited for the Livestream 
reef axle
Didn't realize you were working on more amvs though lol
I mean, I am, but this is a spreadsheet of the ones other people have made I've saved in my AMVs YT playlist lol
lilac coral
Ohh okay
lilac coral
Also I didn't notice the version name until I read one of the comments
lilac coral
(538 videos atm)
Oh god 😭
lilac coral
Good
Mine fed me well for a short while recently and I think I added another couple dozen songs to my usual playlist
reef axle
most of my new music comes from them nowadays lol
lilac coral
I now have 1575 songs added
lilac coral
most of my new music comes from them nowadays lol
True, you sharing or making amvs tends to be some of my newer musical additions
reef axle
I now have 1575 songs added
Rookie numbers 😤
white nimbus
https://fxtwitter.com/GenshinImpact/status/1914891985678192911
Cool art. I just hope the Mondstadt cast will be voiced. I'll hold off on doing the quest if they're mute
lilac coral
It's probably going to be an event rather than a permanent quest
But I hope they're voiced too
We haven't interacted with them in so long, maybe hoyo made some deals with the voice actors by now
Or something
queen prawn
topaz anvil
plss be varka reveal
reef axle
Well ||good news for both of you|| :
||They both have voicelines in this (though it remains to be seen if it's an Alice situation or if they actually appear)||
lilac coral
odd thicket
Well ||good news for both of you|| <:KEK:1024468566835204137>:
||They both have...
i wonder if they recasted the mond cast
most of them are on strike and are active agents
lilac coral
If they did, they probably would have announced it like they did with Takahashi
Since that's an important change to the game in a few ways
modern plover
I NEED TO COME BACK HERE TO SCREAM
albedo is back
i waited 3 yrs for this
sorry cap btw
venti too
kaeya too
ye guys if yall see me here cooking up theory again, its because of this poster
odd thicket
If they did, they probably would have announced it like they did with Takahashi
they did that on 5.5 launch day
we didnt know until then
lilac coral
albedo is back
YEAH HES BACK
modern plover
I CAN DRAW HIM AGAIN
stoic spade
a patch dedicated to mondstadt in 2025?!!
modern plover
lilac coral
they did that on 5.5 launch day
Then maybe you're right, and we will see 
Or they'll be voiced by the ogs, or muted
odd thicket
i want it to happen
modern plover
vino's genshin theory and abledo fan art in 2025 is real
lilac coral
Maybe not for the new voice actor, considering how Takahashi was treated
odd thicket
Maybe not for the new voice actor, considering how Takahashi was treated
yeah
the pain of being replaced/ fired
would make for nice material
lilac coral
Less the pain of being fired and more the threats and shit that was flung at the new voice actor for simply taking up the job of someone who was fired
Is what I was getting at lol
odd thicket
Or they'll be voiced by the ogs, or muted
mute after 9 months of strike is bad imo
for them
odd thicket
Less the pain of being fired and more the threats and shit that was flung at the...
i doubt that would happen
thatis just digging under their own grave at that point
lilac coral
Idk how to even feel about the strike anymore tbh, considering how some of the voice actors have been publicly talking about it
lilac coral
i doubt that would happen
But it's already happened lol
odd thicket
But it's already happened lol
yeah thats why it wont happen again
lilac coral
Apparently some of the voice actors that are already unionized had gone and sent threats and were extremely rude to kinich's replacement when it was announced
odd thicket
attacking the new person led to the strike being outed as a faux wild cat one
odd thicket
Apparently some of the voice actors that are already unionized had gone and sent...
yeah
lilac coral
Doesn't mean they wouldn't double down/continue to do it out of spite
It might just be me acting cynical, but I feel I've seen it happen far too often
Some people just don't change and would probably continue to be jackasses like that even if it harms them in the end
odd thicket
Doesn't mean they wouldn't double down/continue to do it out of spite
i fear they cant do so
a VA post is already super insecure
and AI can genuinely replace them with the same quality
Keqing VA got replaced in another gacha game (Nikke)
anmd she had to apologize and quit twitter after the real goal of the strike unravelled
odd thicket
Some people just don't change and would probably continue to be jackasses like t...
idk but corrina probably cannot afford to
anymore
especially after the toilet rant reel
lilac coral
and AI can genuinely replace them with the same quality
But iirc hoyo specifically has protections against using AI to voice their games
odd thicket
But iirc hoyo specifically has protections against using AI to voice their games
yeah they do
they cannot use it
but other games dont
lilac coral
So that shouldn't be a worry for them on that end, which is partly why people started asking why these guys were still on strike against hoyo lol
odd thicket
Apex Legends for example, had fired and forced all the VA to sell their likeness to them
and most of it is AI voiced now
odd thicket
kinda
but now they have one less delay in their production pipeline
eliminated entirely
lilac coral
But yeah, if it was just the AI that was the issue then they shouldn't have had a problem voicing for the game as the company has protections against AI unless the specific studios they are affiliated with don't
odd thicket
and since it is EA, other companies would soon follow suit
odd thicket
But yeah, if it was just the AI that was the issue then they shouldn't have had ...
iirc the studioes HYV employs already have those
lilac coral
I thought it was the voice actors themselves and what studios/company they were affiliated with
Like sag aftra
odd thicket
Like sag aftra
SAG AFTRA prohibits its members from working in non union projects
lilac coral
Ah right
lilac coral
even though wriothseley's va tried to debunk that and made it sound even more like a cult
odd thicket
~~even though wriothseley's va tried to debunk that and made it sound even more ...
yes and no
lilac coral
Something about a "trial" run of sorts
odd thicket
it is to ensure that the union doesnt get hurt by wildcat strikes
lilac coral
Where they could temporarily work with a non-union project then make the project union if they wanted to keep the va
odd thicket
but yeah
if you work non union jobs, you are not protected by them ever until you leave that workshop
odd thicket
Where they could temporarily work with a non-union project then make the project...
yeah
that is what they are attempting
to convert HYV EN to union workshop
they could have been honest with it
but they ran under the cover of AI
lilac coral
That and ignoring the importance of independent or non-union workers as well
I worked for a place that was union and it was absolute bullshit, lemme tell you 😭
I wouldn't ask that shit of anyone
odd thicket
That and ignoring the importance of independent or non-union workers as well
scab treatment sucks fr
odd thicket
I worked for a place that was union and it was absolute bullshit, lemme tell you...
i do find it sad that unions at least the american ones have long since abandoned their roots and instead became a group negotiation tactic
lilac coral
They used to be an incredibly important part of actively working in America, but nowadays it feels like it's more of a hindrance and a need for control than anything else
Like it used to genuinely be helpful for a large chunk of the population when working
odd thicket
Like it used to genuinely be helpful for a large chunk of the population when wo...
yeah, it eroded through the 60s and 70s and dealt a critical blow in the 80s under a certain admin
then busting tactics and other corruption creeped in and since then it has been in downhill trend
lilac coral
Ye
lilac coral
I just discovered this is apparently a thing so I guess venti will probably be voiced at least
https://youtube.com/shorts/8Ul1iPdcGyE?si=nb-8IhF5WxK5q0AT
It was apparently made last year but only released now
The full song is actually a banger, holy shit
https://youtu.be/v29MBkd5Zx0?si=zr1HU4vKveSuPdeU
The beginning is so good
Oh apparently it isn't aimed at anyone, just released at a coincidental time
white nimbus
Happy coincidence though
lilac coral
Ye
And if she meant to do it now for the reason people are spreading, she also has plausible deniability for it being a coincidence
white nimbus
Sarah (Lumine's VA) also commented "iykyk" in Erika's teaser post 
odd thicket
Failed to get data from Reddit
lilac coral
i'm doing the tribal chronicles and omg another jaguar girl
her ears are so cute
i think it's kind of cool that the previous and current ancient name enscribers are jaguar/leopard people
static oxide
oh
odd thicket
So, the launcher had an update
By mistake
That revealed that the
||Natlan sky had the moon||
white nimbus
queen prawn
Fatui prepare to assault Traveler when we go there
white nimbus
Imo it'll be nice not to get glazed this time
queen prawn
It time for Paimon to get glaze
stoic spade
is it finally dottore time
queen prawn
Time for him to die? Yes
odd thicket
Time for him to be playable ? Yes
queen prawn
Original Dottore die,Clone playable
odd thicket
There are no more clones
Nahida killed them
The dottore we get to play is the prime one
white nimbus
Dottore can make more. He just basically said it's a pain in the ass
odd thicket
Dottore can make more. He just basically said it's a pain in the ass
I hope he doesnt
He is perfect as he is
white nimbus
Eh he made them for a reason in the first place. Anyway, I don't care about him at all. I hope he's not playable
queen prawn
Sorry but glorious queen Nilou took the spot
odd thicket
Sorry but glorious queen Nilou took the spot
Nilou Dottore Collei Nahida
The sumeru special team
odd thicket
so no varka peak? 😔
Hes not getting an appearance before 6.0
lilac coral
The end to albedo's character story finally comes to fruition
modern plover
albedo pls dont die
stoic spade
Naaaah
reef axle
The end to albedo's character story finally comes to fruition <:E_ScaraChaos:977...
That phrasing just makes me think of that one Klee fan comic...
stoic spade
If he did there'd be a big kaboom
reef axle
They also did a great little followup mini series to this
Plus an epilogue that I need to get around to finishing my coloring of
modern plover
ooh i remember this one
reef axle
Good excuse for me to finish it lol. Got like 80% of it done last time
(Just the epilogue, not the whole series 
)
modern plover
Naaaah
sorry i think its either i play too much zzz or its cuz albedo has a death flag right from his release
i was thinking of his story quest again that i kinda forgot genshin is too family friendly to kill someone
stoic spade
Listen one of my fav character is Childe, and he's also big red flag so much there's always a random leak saying he'll die in every version, if he's still around now I wanna believe Albedo will be fine 
reef axle
Listen one of my fav character is Childe, and he's also big red flag so much the...
Did you hear the rumor ||Childe dies in 5.6||?
stoic spade
Sweet music to my ears
lilac coral
That phrasing just makes me think of that one Klee fan comic...
Albedo is relevant again and that's all that matters
Also that comic's art is fucking beautiful
lilac coral
Did you hear the rumor ||Childe dies in 5.6||? <a:W_HuLurking:813043888675356741...
It'll be because ||arlecchino bakes him for emergency food during their expedition|| too
Y'know, like the wanderers of the desert who left those scattered notes
odd thicket
Listen one of my fav character is Childe, and he's also big red flag so much the...
Childe is not dying anytime soon
Tbh
He has some role left to play for similarities to his namesake
white nimbus
They're really hyping up Nod-Krai. I think they'll keep posting these until they cover all 11 factions revealed in the 2nd version of the moon web event. Leading up to the April 30 update they teased in the livestream
lilac coral
https://x.com/genshinimpact/status/1915936371627155588?s=46&t=_3-YEmkHg-wYzINShH...
i hope nod krai is a repeat to enka with how much lore it releases
odd thicket
Lemme embed for you all
lilac coral
and how many questions/theories it appraises
odd thicket
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It was cutoff for me
lilac coral
oh rip
odd thicket
I couldnt see the full message
odd thicket
https://fixupx.com/genshinimpact/status/1915936371627155588?s=46&t=_3-YEmkHg-wYz...
Leaks say We will have a deer girl named Naresa whos a plunge catalyst cryo unit
lilac coral
it looks so pretty
odd thicket
Naresa is a wrestler who also ice skates
lilac coral
varesa
odd thicket
I am anticipating the Workshop reveal
The workshop faction
There is an unreleased superconduct set from 1.0 that functioned similarly to Chevreuse kit
I am sure they are releasing it for Nod Krai
As a tesla callback
white nimbus
I think it's been scrapped
odd thicket
Also, Nod Krai is east european is it not
lilac coral
i guess they'll also probably be releasing an illustration for every faction too now that they have the fatui and frostmoon scion ones released
odd thicket
I think it's been scrapped
No i dont think so
lilac coral
i'm curious to see what the others will have for their images 
odd thicket
Superconduct and shatter are always set to recieve a buff / support/ tweak
Since the final region is Cryo
Banking on rev melt is just boring and not unique enough
odd thicket
i guess they'll also probably be releasing an illustration for every faction too...
They wont be for the Wild Hunt imo
lilac coral
why not?
odd thicket
The Wild Hunt is probably Rerir’s faction
white nimbus
The thing with superconduct is it doesn't help cryo & electro at all. They should just rework it to also reduce cryo & electro res if they want to sell a character that specializes with it
odd thicket
The Wild Hunt is probably Rerir’s faction
So many lorists were anticipating Rerir in Natlan
Because of the moon stuff
But then Nod Krai stole the moons
And we are long overdue a direct Sinner appearance
lilac coral
The thing with superconduct is it doesn't help cryo & electro at all. They shoul...
it started out okay with two physical dmg dealers, and then everyone realized most reactions give bigger numbers so they forgot how much eula and razor could do- then ignored every character added thereafter to help with physical damage
white nimbus
Yeah physical just won't cut it
odd thicket
The thing with superconduct is it doesn't help cryo & electro at all. They shoul...
Neither does Escoffier help freeze as a reaction but she offers enough to aid the raw numbers
Superconduct deals cryo damage primarily in an AoE so any unit or set would probably improve that
Electro is in a meh spot rn
white nimbus
Yeah but she still wants only hydro & cryo characters in the team. If you do that with cryo & electro but no meaningful physical character then what's the point
odd thicket
Yeah but she still wants only hydro & cryo characters in the team. If you do tha...
Physical is dead, leave it behind
white nimbus
Huh? You're the one pushing for superconduct
odd thicket
Cryo and electro team could sail with the reduced resistance or increased transformative damage
odd thicket
Huh? You're the one pushing for superconduct
Ignore the phy res shred part
white nimbus
How can I when that's all it does
odd thicket
Cryo and electro team could sail with the reduced resistance or increased transf...
Like in some OL teams you run full EM Xiangling or Raiden
odd thicket
How can I when that's all it does
It also does AoE cryo damage
white nimbus
That's trivial dmg
odd thicket
Nah
With a decent EM scaling you can deal around 20k+ often
A superconduct nilou would be great
Would be odd if there is a shitty cryo reaction in the age of cryo
white nimbus
It's never gonna compete with other reactions. Nilou is such a bad kit design imo. She loses most of her kit without the right conditions. Very restrictive
odd thicket
We are going forward to the age of specialised units
Have you seen the alpha kit of ||Skirk||
odd thicket
It's never gonna compete with other reactions. Nilou is such a bad kit design im...
Competing reaction wise is meaningless imo
At heavy investment yes Amplification is always going to be better
But depending on character MV and their supports some raw damage builds edge ever close
Look at Overload Varesa comps for example
white nimbus
Have you seen the alpha kit of ||Skirk||
I have but we still need to see her actual kit with multipliers. She could still deal good dmg even without the intended teammates
odd thicket
I have but we still need to see her actual kit with multipliers. She could still...
Not really
white nimbus
Which wouldn't make her too restrictive
odd thicket
For one, in melt comps you get way less field time and lower damage than her freeze comps, and you cannot burst
Ayaka with Escoffier for reference has a 105k dps team
odd thicket
I have but we still need to see her actual kit with multipliers. She could still...
Her pool of team mates are quite small tbh
Furina, Shenhe, Citlali, Layla, Yelan,Diona, Xingqiu, etc
odd thicket
It's never gonna compete with other reactions. Nilou is such a bad kit design im...
Her MV doesnt matter as much
Its bound to be above Ayato level
We know she has ||base dmg multiplier||
That is her saving grace
white nimbus
Which is why I'm waiting for her actual kit. Current info isn't complete
odd thicket
If ||Skirk|| isnt restrictive in her kit escoffier is wasted sales
There is also that
odd thicket
Which is why I'm waiting for her actual kit. Current info isn't complete
2 weeks left
11 if you want beta players to describe / give the kit descriptions
But if we do end up getting the current alpha kit for the beta
Its going to be bonkers
||Skirk|| may actually powercreep Mavuika
white nimbus
If ||Skirk|| isnt restrictive in her kit escoffier is wasted sales
Most players don't look at leaks so they won't even know that ||Skirk|| works well with Escoffier. Her banner would be over already by the time the livestream would happen
odd thicket
Most players don't look at leaks so they won't even know that ||Skirk|| works we...
Most players already know it is ||Skirk|| going by the natlan character roadmap
And have been anticipating her appearance for a long while now
Escoffier kit doesnt have the shame to hide it well either
odd thicket
Most players don't look at leaks so they won't even know that ||Skirk|| works we...
You forgot drip marketting revealing ||Skirk|| long before Livestream
They could put two and two together and figure it out
white nimbus
Yeah but they won't know her official kit until the livestream
I wouldn't give Genshin players too much credit like that
odd thicket
Yeah but they won't know her official kit until the livestream
They would prolly hypothesise based on Escoffier kit and her constellations
odd thicket
I wouldn't give Genshin players too much credit like that <:C_KEKTao:79210018514...
||Skirk|| is more hyped than mavuika even
This may be the second time leaks flood everywhere
white nimbus
We're talking the casual players here that don't look at leaks. Most don't even know proper team building. Which is why the devs have been adding a lot of QoL for them
odd thicket
Sumeru era was wild
topaz anvil
wild hunt reminds me of witcher
odd thicket
We're talking the casual players here that don't look at leaks. Most don't even ...
Sumeru era had leaks circulating amongst casuals
For wanderer and Haitham
white nimbus
The leak scene looks dry these days. Seems like Hoyo has really tightened their security
odd thicket
The leak scene looks dry these days. Seems like Hoyo has really tightened their ...
Fontaine flood did
Some one leaked the entirety of 4.x character designs and employee details
A certain insider (whos never missed btw) who also leaked ||Skirk|| story quest , had leaked whole of fontaine archon quest
This was back in 3.6
white nimbus
Yeah that was back then. I'm talking about now. The Genshin leaks subreddit is really dry these days
odd thicket
One leaker left
Two others got married and retired
We got a new leaker/ insider by the name of HomDGRat
odd thicket
Yeah that was back then. I'm talking about now. The Genshin leaks subreddit is r...
Could also be that Hoyo improved their production
More organized and secure that
Ideas dont simply leak until they are ready (which is when they can be leaked even)
white nimbus
Yeah dataminers have been saying that their beta is getting harder to crack
lilac coral
Could you imagine
reef axle
I cant
lilac coral
Like it's a month before beta, and someone just drops a screenshot of all the playable characters like with sumeru
Okay lame-o
reef axle
no u
reef axle
lilac coral
odd thicket
Like it's a month before beta, and someone just drops a screenshot of all the pl...
we had effie model from then btw
only one character is due to make an appearance from that leak now
topaz anvil
Two others got married and retired
who?
lilac coral
we had effie model from then btw
We did? All I remember are the people who traced over the silhouettes and made guesses as to their appearances lol
It made me reminisce about when people would make fanart guesses and a leaker would rate it on a scale of 0-10 on accuracy
odd thicket
We did? All I remember are the people who traced over the silhouettes and made g...
yeah
odd thicket
It made me reminisce about when people would make fanart guesses and a leaker wo...
for varesa , yeah
lilac coral
Varesa, Kirara, and kaveh were my favorites
Seeing people go ham guessing what they looked like was amazing
queen prawn
Well,that is just name leak
odd thicket
prett ysure we got the chef model leak too]
queen prawn
Nope
You probably mistaken it.
We only get her model sometime after Varesa trailer
white nimbus
Yeah iirc, Varesa's trailer was the 1st time we saw her model
lilac coral
That's why everyone was so excited lol
odd thicket
You probably mistaken it.
i think i may have mistaken the goth girl to be effie
lilac coral
Oh the one that never released?
lilac coral
Wanna know what's funny
odd thicket
because its technically a leak but a really old one that has not yet materialized
this was leaked too btw
fontaine series that never materialized
lilac coral
A lot of stuff gets leaked
odd thicket
A lot of stuff gets leaked
some are alpha stuff that get scraped
lilac coral
But whether it makes it into the final cut for the game depends on development
Plans can change and they do quite frequently
Ye
odd thicket
yeah
lilac coral
That's why some will say not to believe in them unless it's the beta lol
odd thicket
because ||Lurk|| had three different bursts in the ongoing alpha according to teh Pre TC talk in #1354554410272948284
they play test and choose what abilities, passives and cons makes into the beta
lilac coral
A character or weapon can go through all the steps to becoming an actual part of the game, all the concept art and descriptions and such, and still get axed before it's implemented because someone says "no, I don't like that idea, we will go with this one instead" points to other character that actually gets released
odd thicket
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A character or weapon can go through all the steps to becoming an actual part of...
they dont change much in beta anymore btw
number tweaks aside
and shifting cons
or updating VFX
lilac coral
It's also insane to me to think dahlia was leaked along with fontaine almost 2 years ago and is now being implemented
lilac coral
they dont change much in beta anymore btw
Yeah but I mean before beta
odd thicket
It's also insane to me to think dahlia was leaked along with fontaine almost 2 y...
same for dottrore too iirc
Dottore was apparently tagged as Hydro Claymore
back in sumeru
like Capitano was tagged tall male sword
lilac coral
Like the concept of the character, the kit, everything can make it in the planning phase and then get stopped because they prefer a different idea- before it's ever modeled and added to the game itself
odd thicket
Yeah but I mean before beta
oh fair game
odd thicket
Like the concept of the character, the kit, everything can make it in the planni...
thats not really true
they set on a core princple/ idea for a character
the abilities are all derivations of it
lilac coral
I'm talking about characters like the ||mummy||
odd thicket
but there are others too
lilac coral
It can have a core idea, but the art that's made doesn't necessarily mean it will be the one added, even if it's an "official" reference
If she's still expected then I think we should probably be censoring ourselves
odd thicket
It can have a core idea, but the art that's made doesn't necessarily mean it wil...
oh i dont dispute that
Captain R vs Clorinde
lilac coral
Because I thought she stopped at being expected in 4.8
odd thicket
but as of now
no leaker or insider has breathed a word about 5.8
except allegedly there is a ||Hydro girl release that patch||
are there any more messages to be deleted
lilac coral
I think we're good
But yeah, imagine if that character is ||dahlia|| lol
Since you can see the element in the trailer
Unless they change it
odd thicket
||Dahlia is confirmed to be in 5.7||
I noticed a steady pattern now
they would show the character in game a full patch before the release
For most at least
Re: Ifa
odd thicket
||Dahlia is confirmed to be in 5.7||
from leakers
||He is atk speed buffer who doesnt work with skork||
lilac coral
And the leaks have been from who if you don't mind me asking
Nono, I mean the leaker name
Was it homdgrat?
I think that's the only one I believe at this point lol
IDC about who's boosting them, I was asking which leaker is being boosted and leaked this for 5.7
Ah
odd thicket
IDC about who's boosting them, I was asking which leaker is being boosted and le...
HxG Diluc is a pretty good source
he gets teh outline of each version
lilac coral
I like hxg, but just didn't realize they were still leaking
It's a good thing I'm not in the leaking space anymore
lilac coral
Not on me, no
Just so much to sift through and hope is real or not
Like I remember when someone (I think uba and team?) had an entire spreadsheet specifically made to help people see which leakers were more accurate than others with only 1-2 having 100% accuracy
Even a single version prior
But if there's at least a couple of accurate leakers still out there then that's good I suppose
I think I just have trust issues with them because there's been so fucking much
odd thicket
Like I remember when someone (I think uba and team?) had an entire spreadsheet s...
I usually cross check with other leakers and make sense of what they say in the game’s framework
Havent been disappointed yet
Except once with ||Skirk||
||I assumed Hoyo would go for a superconduct oriented character early but they went for the least effort kit for this charcter||
lilac coral
X
It makes me so happy that they're continuously feeding us more stuff
It seems we will get one every 12 hours
Considering the last two were at 9am and 9pm
Also apparently "ratnik" is the word for "warrior" in Russian
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https://fixupx.com/GenshinImpact/status/1916298758406422692
Third descender coded
lilac coral
Was that the order they were in on the web page?
Next one is hexenzirkel if they're going in order
And apparently after that is the wild hunt
odd thicket
Hmmm
odd thicket
Next one is hexenzirkel if they're going in order
Would be funny
Hexenzirkil already got the archon quest attention
But more is good
lilac coral
More is very good
Especially now that they'll be highlighted (at least a little) in the upcoming archon quest
odd thicket
And apparently after that is the wild hunt
We are gonna see new designs for abyssal humans
Unlike past heralds and lectors
The way i see it
lilac coral
Maybe
odd thicket
Heralds and Lectors are Vedrfornir’s gang
Rifthounds are Rhine’s
Wild Hunt is for Rerir
Mimics are unaffiliated
Abyss Mages are Hroaptatyr’s ?
And no idea about Surtologi
The Narwhal is so unique and its own and away from all other abyssal beings
Beta applications are out
It seems they would resume Beta for 5.7 earlier this time
lilac coral
Would you be able to expand on those? I just tried looking because this is the first time I have heard of specific enemies being part of specific factions outside of gold being the one who created the rifthounds
I don't see anything, at least at first glance reading through info known on the abyss and the sinners, saying they were created or are affiliated with specific sinners
odd thicket
lilac coral
Just that the abyss order as a whole effectively uses heralds/mages/lectors and "contracts" hilichurls to do work for them
odd thicket
We see a herald who effectively served as Vedrfornir’s receptionist in Caribert
So and the moniker of herald and lector do flow with Vedrfornir’s sayings
odd thicket
When you say "gang"
Just closely tied with him
odd thicket
Although flimsy i suspect that Abyss Mages are tied to Hroaptatyr
Hroaptatyr is another Odin inspiration (guy who hung himself for 9 days on the Yggdrassil btw) and the mages dropping leyline branches tease some connection
lilac coral
That'd be cool if that's the direction they want to go in with it
odd thicket
Rerir , Ratcher of Solnair roughly translate to moon hunter
lilac coral
But we also know next to nothing about him and hoyo can be as loose or strict as they want from what we've seen 😭
odd thicket
So the wild hunt being related to him is a probable answer
odd thicket
But we also know next to nothing about him and hoyo can be as loose or strict as...
I think they are saving Hroptatyr for Sneznaya as villain
Between Vedrfornir and Hroaptatyr, either one or both lead the Abyss Order
We have not seen the abyss order for the whole year or two havent we
Outside of meeting abyss sister
lilac coral
We had the continuation of caribert where we met him in his dreamscape/consciousness right before natlan right?
Where he told us the loom of fate was complete
Or do you mean like
Physical altercations with the abyss order
odd thicket
Physical altercations with the abyss order
Yeah
We just met the same person twice (memory and via memory skype)
At best we meet Enjou thrice (?) but he has not revealed anything more avout the abyss order
white nimbus
Maybe we'll see Enjou again in Mare Jivari. Continuation of the 5.2 main event quest
odd thicket
And 5.0 Kinich quest
At least his interest in Ajaw and Mare promises an AO appearance soon
white nimbus
About the abyss order, we're due the annual Traveler archon quest soon. We'll hopefully get it in 5.7. And the final Natlan area expansion to max out the Statue of the Seven & Tablet of Tona. Surely it'll be Mare Jivari, right?
odd thicket
About the abyss order, we're due the annual Traveler archon quest soon. We'll ho...
Yeah
We have seen Mare in the live stream too lmao
Dont feel the need to spoiler it
We have seen its map in the Iktomi scrolls event
Then a bit of its in game map behind a dev on a monitor during 5.3 or 5.4 or5.5 livestream
lilac coral
We have seen Mare in the live stream too lmao
We did?
odd thicket
We did?
Yeah
It was mostly unintentional but
We could see a perfect sharp east ward coastline with purple hue for its landscape
There is no such place like that in game, yet
i wish i had the image to show you
lilac coral
In the 5.6 Livestream?
lilac coral
In the trailer animation or some random background video like what you were saying with the dev clip
odd thicket
Yes
lilac coral
To which
weary moss
In the trailer animation or some random background video like what you were sayi...
Can you send me the link
odd thicket
I had posted in this thread or #・genshin-spoilers before
lilac coral
I had posted in this thread or <#821571665431494687> before
Are you talking about this? Because this is the only thing I can find to even remotely match the description you gave lol
lilac coral
I don't see another sharp island with purple coastline
odd thicket
this is for the location of mare
lilac coral
The top left one?
odd thicket
odd thicket
The top left one?
that is from the scroll event
lilac coral
I thought it'd be the bottom left one that's covered in fog
lilac coral
that is from the scroll event
The image is from the event, I didn't notice an island out that way though
Actually wait, they should have an updated satellite map since 5.5 has been out for a while
Oh wait I see it
One sec
lilac coral
It's on Reddit
But this is the current map
They added that island in out of bounds where there wasn't anything previously and didn't touch the other stuff
odd thicket
its on my twitter i think
i had bookmarked it but i deleted my account
lilac coral
But the foggy one out of bounds was my guess for mare jivari, since the fog could explain how it just "vanished" like a lot of other places seem to (i.e. locations in the golden apple archipelago and chenyu vale)
odd thicket
yes
onyx fossil
ive been summoned
lilac coral
But the shape of the one top left matches, yeah
Hi
Go back to bed
This is your final warning
onyx fossil
i was never in bed
lilac coral
I said go back to bed
onyx fossil
onyx fossil
but im not tired
lilac coral
You said you slept 3 hours and worked, how the hell are you not tired lol
onyx fossil
ignore that i just yawned
lilac coral
You're welcome
onyx fossil
You said you slept 3 hours and worked, how the hell are you not tired lol
im built different
lilac coral
😔
lilac coral
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821571665431494687/1339577122234306641/...
I just found this
white nimbus
Then a bit of its in game map behind a dev on a monitor during 5.3 or 5.4 or5.5 ...
This one? On the left?
lilac coral
Apparently there's also a placeholder that ||is entirely hidden from view and doesn't appear unless you get close to it||
odd thicket
its not the ancient secret mountain right
lilac coral
Even from the satellite map
odd thicket
Apparently there's also a placeholder that ||is entirely hidden from view and do...
yes
white nimbus
yeah this one
We don't know if that's Mare Jivari. Just speculation iirc
lilac coral
The placeholder is massive so now I'm rather hoping that will be mare jivari
white nimbus
I think it could be true since Citlali said it's in the westernmost area of Natlan
odd thicket
We don't know if that's Mare Jivari. Just speculation iirc
there is no other candidate
lilac coral
You never know though
It could also be on an entirely separate map that we wouldn't see from the surface too
Just like the sky kingdom above ochkanatlan and others
lilac coral
damn the current event is fun
i love launching people into the air and conversely being launched
it's fun as fuck
that mualani one though
idk if it was just my lobby but it was constant chaos with those fucking barrages
like we would all simultaneously set them off and everyone would be unable to dodge every single one
the absolute carnage was magnificent
queen prawn
damn the current event is fun
What do you think about Kaeya one
lilac coral
i am not a huge fan, i rather just swim and sprint-jump over platforms than use his skill since more often than not my pauses while casting it would give others time to sprint right across and grab coins before me lol
like every fucking time i trie to bridge, someone was behind me on the first cast and would use me as a spring board so i stopped using his skill almost entirely and would just jump head first trying to get coins
and then on the second go around with the randomized match, i got the kaeya one and had fun watching people occasionally follow me only to not realize i wouldn't bridge and they'd fall into the water while i'd fucking soar my way across with a flying leap
topaz anvil
so orabashi is the original light keeper?
lilac coral
Considering the last two were at 9am and 9pm
this is why i'm not allowed to analyze patterns 
it's been 24 hours since their last nod krai faction post
reef axle
it's been 24 hours since their last nod krai faction post
They just posted this 47 seconds ago
Just 10 minutes off the hour mark for some reason
lilac coral
fucking hell
X
now they post it to twitter 😭
but yeah, now they waited 24 hours for it
but the wild hunt's image looks cool
it reminds me of the ground beneath the upside down city in the chasm
also do you think, with how different the one in the forefront is, that they'll have some special appearance/property that's more than just "it's the normal enemy, but it glows (insert color here)"
it kind of looks like the abyssal corrosion crystals we've been seeing in natlan
did you know that pyro slimes can sit on the surface of phlogiston the same as hydro slimes can on water?
because apparently they do
i was hoping they'd drown
the wording of this first part confuses me a little
does it mean that the pyro sovereign never actually died and was only taken over by the corrosion of the abyss? or is it saying that by "feigning death" the sovereign was effectively resurrected by it?
or is there no definite answer as to what exactly that boss is
i tried reading its archive entry and it sounds like it's just the abyss recreating the body and power of the dragon, but it also says how the "once-dead dragon opens its eyes anew, forsaking all in this brief dream of a resurrection." and talking about all that's left is its undying will and rage
so less possession and traditional resurrection and more "brought back spiritally"?
i might just be tired though, i'm not sure if this is making sense
lilac coral
"in no way inferior to star-forging" 👀
i wonder if this is to say they've forged stars before or if it's just saying this is so amazing that it's on the same level of if any of them wanted to create their own star
this genuinely startled me for a second 
i rounded the corner and suddenly see several things on the walkway
lilac coral
GODDAMN I WAS NOT EXPECTING THE PORTION UNDER THE CLOUDS TO BE SO LARGE???
i figured there was a reason for the map to be so empty for the volcano with the initial underground area but jesus 😭
also, i think this is the first time they've mapped parts of an area outside the out of bounds lines
like why are they all the way over there when we can't reach them
i also think it's cool that there's such a thick "cloud" between the two layers that you can only just see them above/below one another
this might just be because they wanted a basic enemy down here, but why are there hilichurls in the ancient city?
unless they're the dragonborn and got cursed by ronova
odd thicket
it reminds me of the ground beneath the upside down city in the chasm
It is also similar to the nightkingdom with abyss cancer
odd thicket
also do you think, with how different the one in the forefront is, that they'll ...
Its a mitachurl with a tumor added on to it
Similar to Dvalin
lilac coral
i understand
but do you think it'll be a new appearance for them than just "mitachurl, but purple" lol
reef axle
Yall is this true?
which part?
lost quail
They said she sent people to kill this girl for leaving
Is that true?
I myself
Looked into the hidden quest dialogue
As well as the Wiki for this quest
And it doesn’t mention that at all
But yall are better lore ..hunters than me so
odd thicket
but do you think it'll be a new appearance for them than just "mitachurl, but pu...
yes
much like the mimics in Och Kan Natlan