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unreal coral
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the CN calc I posted above also lined up with this one

knotty fiber
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I don't believe in that person doing the cn calc because of some obviously bias stuffs they did

unreal coral
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unfortunately that's the only one I can find

knotty fiber
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And if you noticed, the timespan rot for rupture is shorter

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Fb has a slightly longer rot and is also a lil bit more sweaty because of the swap stacking

knotty fiber
unreal coral
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I vaguely remember Chem prefers comparing DPR instead of DPS is because it lines up with the timer

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something about you can only fit 4x 30s rotation in a single run

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there it is

neat robin
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I respect how much lynae can buff
But she wastes so much time getting forte full
Yes ik its ult, heavy, then hold basic until full
But its long

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I’m glad denia is 2nd though, so I can grab sig too

exotic idol
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where cristoforo

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pspsps kuro let me rc6 him

neat robin
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I want lucilla to have a buffing sig like cia/phoeb instead of denias dps sig

unreal coral
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isn't that kinda worse tho since it's like moving part of the kit to the sig

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esp if it's something rare like RES shred or DEF ignore or something

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I miss the days where you can just slap Stringmaster on your support and call it a day

neat robin
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Idk its just whatever they feel like

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Denia doesnt give fusion res shred
Neither Kit or sig

unreal coral
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I think the sig gives ATK, but I'll have to check first

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oh it's just to the wielder

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or not

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it's to whoever applies the NS/strain

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ATK is kinda whatever tbh

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1 2 substat rolls

ashen gulch
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rn the spending in wuwa is winning over hsr/gi tbh

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just wondering until which pack should I get before the reset like 100%?

unreal coral
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if you have the means and is going to spend anyway just buy out all the 2x top ups

ashen gulch
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I thought leaving the 5 and 1 ones jaja

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Cause I'm 100% buying all the resets

exotic idol
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im out of units

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i mean i could probs cheese a bit further abusing trial units but ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

unreal coral
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if you're not remotely close to 58k it's not worth using the trials

exotic idol
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I want the 8 bosses cleared thing

unreal coral
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the trials are so bad you'd be hard pressed to get above 1.5k

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R2 heron should be around 6.8k pts

exotic idol
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I never meant fight heron with it

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Start with the trial units, push 1, maybe 1.5 bosses

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then use my actual units

unreal coral
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I'd put the trials on mimic tbh

exotic idol
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would deffo free my mono fusion

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if i can pull off even half of mimic lol

unreal coral
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heron is also relatively easy compared to the other 3 bosses

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just keep throwing bodies at the mimic

exotic idol
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my QY/luuk teams can each clear a boss

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mono fusion maybe 75%

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if i can somehow get through at least 1 boss with trials ill be happy

unreal coral
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is that R1 or R2 boss

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because R2 boss has like 50% more HP compared to R1

exotic idol
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R2

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R1 i threw my other less optimized teams

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mimic was done with mono fusion, which got around 90% of the way there

unreal coral
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just try clearing mimic with the trials first

exotic idol
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ChildeNoted ill try tomorrow

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its 1 am lol

unreal coral
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also put Luuk on astronaut if you haven't already

exotic idol
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R2 astro was cleared with luuk

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unless u mean echo

unreal coral
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astronaut has strain shill

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so Luuk should do more damage to it

exotic idol
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im not worried about luuk/qy teams whatsoever

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they clear their bosses easily

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I'll give it a shot tomorrow

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thanks for the idea abt mimic 51g_lulu_nod

unreal coral
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if you can also clear 50% of R1 heron with trials it should be in the bag

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so 50% of R1 Heron and R1 Mimic all with trials

exotic idol
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trying it first thing tmr

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going to bed now blushcat thank you!

unreal coral
exotic idol
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my proudest moment is still somehow doing this today
reason is, luuk was stuck on 2020 points
then i somehow just fucking went insane on the rotations

unreal coral
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Luuk isn't exactly good in whiwa

exotic idol
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KEKWlaugh i noticed

unreal coral
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you'd have better luck with mono fusion

exotic idol
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didn't feel like doing augusta cheese

unreal coral
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any mono fusion

exotic idol
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blushhearts but i like man

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man did good

unreal coral
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can you like

exotic idol
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my biggest bottleneck in whiwa is the goddamn lynae downtime

unreal coral
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put QY on 1st half

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I think he should do better there

exotic idol
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noted for tomorrow morning

unreal coral
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also swap Verina with SK

exotic idol
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ech im a bit used on the SK rotation (timing wise)

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we'll see, gonna try for the sigillium endgame first

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whiwa isn't really my concern haha

exotic idol
unreal coral
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preferably you'd want to try chipping at least 50% of R1 Heron first with the trials

exotic idol
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ChildeNoted man i love having a fully built calcharo and he does less damage than my aalto

unreal coral
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Mimic is just a last resort if you just can't clear any boss with the trials

exotic idol
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got it

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Ill let you know the results tomorrow

unreal coral
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for reference that's the datamined boss HP

exotic idol
unreal coral
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Mephis>Astronaut>Heron>Sigillum>Mimic in order

exotic idol
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Got it

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ill keep that in mind

unreal coral
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also each point is worth 1k of damage

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might help with thresholds

exotic idol
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Gotcha

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goodnight for now!!

burnt shoal
warped willow
exotic idol
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@unreal coral ur right, slightly better 51g_lulu_nod

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lemme see if i can push 3k before i continue

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lmao i fucked up like 4 rotations

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ught i hate how floaty verina is

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get on the ground you green goblin

warped willow
exotic idol
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i need battle music

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brb

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im losing points somewhere and i dont like it

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i mean let's see how 2nd half does

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ehhhhhhhh

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it's possible if i fully lock in

ashen gulch
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question is there any worth chisa copy for like hiyuki/carthy?

neat robin
ashen gulch
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I see I might try to get it, but I guess the also waiting for lucilla would be better

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I have a question about the sequences in the shop, are there like 2 for each character for ever or 2 for each character per banner?

ashen gulch
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I have 180 corals I hope that with 300+ wishes I get for at least 1 copy

barren drift
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to getr 1 copy atleast

ashen gulch
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I mean I copy from the shop

barren drift
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yes

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i think a 4 star gives u 5 coral

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so thats at least 30 * 5 corals

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nvm

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yeah

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guaranteed right?

ashen gulch
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idk but I mean considering ill get 5*

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kinda tempted on pulling all on hinyuki and then just get mornye by playing

neat robin
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If you have the 4* all s6 (and cuz 4* weapons)
+a 30 for the 5* char at ~75
Probably looking at 70-80 coral per 5* at minimum

ashen gulch
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I dont have all the 4*

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better to assume I dont have them

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What are the rewards by just login in day 1?

neat robin
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Ok so lower end
Maybe 60 per ~75 pulls?
Which is still the 200+ coral you still need to buy a dupe

ashen gulch
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in this account I have tons of content, I have almost not played at all

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literally the last story I did is the one where you fight against the bird with jinyuan

neat robin
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Depends how much you feel like rushing content (dont recommend tho, to avoid burnout)

ashen gulch
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Yeah what I dont know is I read the story all the way up to augusta story

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so idk if to skip all the content until that

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or read it again

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but I plan to do like story, modes I go unlocking, exploration, hsr since anniversary as well I need to farm for lauma

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only issue is I dont have the areas for the flowers

ashen gulch
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let me enter the game and see how many pulls I have right now

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so from here to the day assuming I only do dailies is 7077 astrites

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  • 13200
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from there I need to add all the top ups again

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  • 14 of the coral shop reset
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and idk the gifts of day 1

neat robin
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I can open a ‘new’ account with a different server right?

ashen gulch
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I think so

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okay so if I dont play I have 311 wishes

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it does seems promising to s3r1 hiyuki ngl

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unless I lose every single 50/50 jaja

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and im considering I always go to pity 70

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is there free pulls aside from the 600?

neat robin
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35 char
10 weapon
15 standard

Exploration 100% gives 1 standard pull per section of map
7 of each type from shop

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Everything else would be in astrites I think Ulrich_Thinking

ashen gulch
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I mean free pulls day 1

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or astrites

neat robin
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Day 1 like brand new account or like 1st day of anni?

ashen gulch
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of the version

neat robin
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Shop resets 1st day of patch so the 7 of each
The 20 char pulls could be split daily or a x10 per half they didnt show a schedule

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5 char & 5 standard pulls are behind 7day login

ashen gulch
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like the 10 from the right?

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thats event

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well so 10 more to my 311

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321, ill play a bit and maybe commit to try and get s3r1 hiyuki

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and then I pull for mornye

neat robin
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10 of the char is same as last year, behind gilded nightmarket event shop

ashen gulch
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ill rlly need to rush so I can do events and unlock part of the map

neat robin
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You can always quickstart each region & then go back to huanglong questline

ashen gulch
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yeah but that requires to play a bit of the story until it unlock the region

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and I refuse to play something of the story before reaching it

neat robin
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Unfortunately theres no way to buy new region materials
Need to keep adding it to surveys

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I’m caught up ofc but feels bad for any new player

ashen gulch
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with 320 wishes from starting point how possible does s3r1 hiyuki and s0r1 mornye sounds?

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I mean through the phase 1, like assuming I play do all the events etc

neat robin
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Unlikely
But possible ig

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Go s0r1 hiyuki, s0 mornye first
Pull s1 hiyuki
See how many pulls youve got left, can buy s2 hiyuki with coral

ashen gulch
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I don't think getting s3 is an issue

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If I commit and ignore mornye

neat robin
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320 pulls without earlies is just four ‘things’
And three of those are chars with 50/50s

ashen gulch
neat robin
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75-150 pulls per character
Worst case, 450 pulls is only 3 limiteds

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If you’re focusing on hiyuki specifically you should be getting chisa for her, not mornye (unless you already have chisa)

ashen gulch
ashen gulch
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My Chisa is s0r1 already

neat robin
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Id rather be guesstimating 5 extra pulls per character then I know ive got enough

ashen gulch
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I don't think so? I think I've never went over pity like 74 at that was like just once it's usually between 60-70

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But even with that 450 pulls would still get me s3r1 hiyuki.... and this is the worse case scenario

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That's why I ask is it so unlikely to get s2r1 and s0r1 with 450-500 pulls? (I'm not counting corals copy

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That is thinking I only farm around 100 pulls

neat robin
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s2, s0 & 2 sigs is six 5*
For the sake of it lets say 65 pity average then

390 pulls if youve got all 4 wins
520 pulls if you win2, lose2
650 pulls if you lose 4 (unlikely)

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I’m just saying
Leave mornye sig til the very end

ashen gulch
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Yeah ofc

neat robin
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Get s2r1 hiyuki and s0 mornye then see what youve got left

ashen gulch
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But you do why I feel something is off? Like in all other games generally with 400 pulls is enough to s2r1

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And have leftovers

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And there is more pity and no guaranteed on weapon

neat robin
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But its not just s2r1 you want another s0r1 on top of that

ashen gulch
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For example I got s2r1 firefly in star rail with like 350-400 pulls, lost all 50/50 won the lc and got like no earlies

ashen gulch
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So if I separated for parts like s2r1 hiyuki and then just farm sounds way less far idk why

neat robin
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My s6 qiu (2 free, so pulled 5 copies)
Was 418 pulls

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S2r1 + s0 for you is also 5 copies

ashen gulch
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again separate them

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350-400 wishes for s2r1 seems reasonable?

neat robin
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350 sure

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Then +150-210ish for another s0r1 depending on the 5050

ashen gulch
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yeah there is where I dont see it so far

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cause that is just farming

neat robin
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Anni patch (but both halves) is prob gonna be ~150 pulls again so like you can guarantee 2 5* of some sort
Id guess maybe 80-90 first half? Ulrich_Thinking

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Also assuming there arent other rewards they wanna keep a surprise tho I dont really think theres extra

ashen gulch
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Yeah but I'm saying it knowing the amount of content I have that is quite literally everything

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I can farm 15-20 pulls a day

exotic idol
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OH COME ON

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0crowonfire restart.

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better.

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YESSSSSSSSSSS @unreal coral thanks for the tip about the trial teams on mimic Siti

unreal coral
exotic idol
neat robin
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More money for anni 😃

exotic idol
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If only life was this easy lol

knotty fiber
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But I guess it's reasonable

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I got 61 for multiple chars

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And it's around 400~630 per char

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400 is really lucky tho

ashen gulch
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wym 61?

unreal coral
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S6R1

neat robin
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Yeah thatd be lucky

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Or like me, 400 is s4

knotty fiber
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My cartethyia was unfortunate

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+45 from sig

ashen gulch
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but then yeah s2r1 in 350 wishes is not that unlikely

knotty fiber
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If you count 1 coral copy then it's pretty much a yes

ashen gulch
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uh?

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Im not counting corals here

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thinking on buying the s3

knotty fiber
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Still more likely than not

neat robin
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Its 350 for pulling 4 5*
If you win the 3x its less, if you lose the 3x its more

ashen gulch
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if I win just 1 or get 1 early its already guaranteed lol

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if I lose 3x and all in pity im just like 40 pulls off

knotty fiber
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Losing x3 all pity = 420 already

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Not counting weapon

ashen gulch
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but weapon is already guaranteed I rlly dont even care about it

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losing all 3 and getting 0 earlies in 350-400 pulls is possible of course but is less likely than just winning 1

burnt shoal
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is denia cons worth it

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or better on mornye

unreal coral
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if you are not a whale pulling support cons is already very questionable

ashen gulch
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this will be chisa 3rd banner right? Im scared she will no longer rerun

unreal coral
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yes

ashen gulch
burnt shoal
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iuno going to be gone forever

ashen gulch
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I think maybe all 2.X character get a 4th

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I mean since hiyuki wants chisa theyll surely rerun again whenever hiyuki reruns or close to that

burnt shoal
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alot of 2.x don't even have a third

ashen gulch
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well yeah cause they just came out

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a lot?

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Aside from carthy and augusta?

burnt shoal
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uhh

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carlotta

ashen gulch
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she had 3

burnt shoal
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oh nvm

unreal coral
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Phoebe is the only one with 4

ashen gulch
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yeah but maybe they start coming

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carthy will for sure have 1 more

burnt shoal
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how many does camellya have

ashen gulch
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2

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and was given for free

burnt shoal
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when did we get free camellya

ashen gulch
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but we need to take into consideration 1.X was wayyyy shorter

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I mean not free but was an option to choose in the spending event

burnt shoal
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camellya only paid char now?

ashen gulch
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i think they eventually do a banner where you can just choose old characters

burnt shoal
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for free?

ashen gulch
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no

burnt shoal
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why didn't they do it for this anniversary then

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like last year

ashen gulch
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most people expected that, but last year thing is not what im referring

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Im referring to a separate banner that is always there where it lets you pull old units they dont want to rerun any longer

ashen gulch
burnt shoal
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isn't it like against da law to make limited chars permanent

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even genshin doesn't do that

ashen gulch
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not at all

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star rail limited characters are now in the 50/50 pool

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some of them ofc not all

neat robin
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They could also just rotate old chars on a short cycle
Every week swaps to a different 1.x (id assume excluding sk)

ashen gulch
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or make the banner to choose to come back like a few times kinda like chronicled

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but no if they wanted to do a diff banner and or add them in the pool of 50/50 is not illegal

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its probably stated somewhere in the things you accept jaja

neat robin
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I could see it happening in 4.x, 1.x chars get added to limited banner loss pool
Pgr has everyone ‘old’ iirc

ashen gulch
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yeah I heard that as well that old characters in pgr are in the pool

burnt shoal
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oh u mean loss pool

neat robin
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Only limited banner loss pool
Not in standard banner

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Though 1.x weapons…

burnt shoal
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rip stringmaster

ashen gulch
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or they put a special shop?

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like star rail

burnt shoal
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that shop is whale

ashen gulch
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imo for now star rail is the one that is doing better all this stuff

burnt shoal
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wuwa not copying star rail

ashen gulch
neat robin
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Yeah but they powercreep way worse

burnt shoal
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if they are they would have given a free 5 star during anniversary

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wuwa wants to not give limited like genshin

ashen gulch
neat robin
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Okay no dont start again

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More pulls is better than a shit standard char nobody uses

ashen gulch
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That is so sad to say...

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You are saying it like if giving a standard character needs to affect the amount of pulls

neat robin
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I wish it wouldnt, but I assume it would be lower

ashen gulch
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I dont think say cause well few people cares, I just want them for collection

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so*

neat robin
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I dont I’m tired of seeing them from losing 5050s
Id rather a free standard weapon

ashen gulch
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Then let's say a free standard 5*

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Whatever you choose

neat robin
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I’m glad theres a new map this time
More explo to fill time with

neat robin
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Kuro
Begging you
Skins pls. This, this is good

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The skin you gave us? Mid af

knotty fiber
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this standard talk again

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I feel like they gave us way too many at the beginning that it doesn't feel anything to get one anymore

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lol

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if I want a free standard now, the only reason why would be so that I have S6 everyone faster

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-> more corals on offrate

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if that even matters for most people

neat robin
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Thats why I pulled a bunch on standard char banner E_OMEGARAZOR

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After the weapons of

knotty fiber
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I stopped weap banner completely for char banner

neat robin
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I got cal s5&6 from standard

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Unfortunately on my limited losses, the last 5/6 loss been to jianxin

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Could’ve been 5 cal for that much extra coral 😔

ashen gulch
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now that I think about it

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Ill unlock rinascita and lahai roi it doesnt matter the few story Im skipping I can see it online

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  • I did saw rinascita one already
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and getting those events astrites are valuable thinking how much I want to get

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this is normal? The black stripes I mean

neat robin
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At top and bottom? Yeah they make it like widescreen
Dont turn on fullscreen you’ll lose some stuff on the left/right sides

placid holly
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i think there's a setting in the graphics settings that lets you adjust between letterbox and fullscreen

ashen gulch
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I mean but thats specific only in some talk scenes/cutscenes

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not in the whole game

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question is there any solution so that I can have wuwa in my ssd but when I update I dont need to have the free space

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Cause I can have it, but once it wants to update that it asks for more space im screwed

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and I dont think that uninstalling and installing over and over again is very practical

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but the diff of performance between ssd and not is wayyyy to much

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the only funny thing is that since it takes way too long to load when I pull I can tell when its a 5* and when its a lose or a win

exotic idol
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Game fun
Men hot
No complaints

Waiting on Cristoforo lol

sweet coral
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WuWa is just a waifu game disguised as a mixed gender game

barren drift
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yeah

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but im just

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shipping my frover with everyone

warped willow
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i love Yuri

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我爱百合

burnt shoal
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woa oneshot in thousand gateaways weekly

exotic idol
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finally done

ashen gulch
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hey ninjy

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or well anyone but you are the one ive talk about this, and aemeath sequences which ones are good?

neat robin
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Idk s3 gives her max buff stack without needing teammates
I dont like her gameplay enough to look into investment

ashen gulch
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I see and in calcs between s3 hiyuki and s3 aemy?

neat robin
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Basically the same?

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S3 fb aem is lower but I’m sure fb dmg itself (plus in aoe content) it’ll match

ashen gulch
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cause yeah im thinking like maybe im thinking on s3 hiyuki cause the hype and cause I want to pull but it would make more sense to make that inversion in my favorite character instead lol

neat robin
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Invest in the one you enjoy playing more

ashen gulch
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but then what is better between fb and rupture aemeath

ashen gulch
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some not, awesome

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  • she is zero two + mai sakurajima
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  • sings
neat robin
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Aem herself is a great char I personally dislike gameplay

ashen gulch
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yeah but then idk if invest in fb or rupture

neat robin
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Heres the thing, hiyuki and aem fb both want chisa

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If you plan to use both teams
Hiyuki chafe and aem rupture

ashen gulch
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but with like vertical investment

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is fb or rupture aemy stronger?

neat robin
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Idk and idc
They should be similar enough

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You’ll have to go hunting for whale calcs

ashen gulch
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ill go see if there is any

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and last question just in case I know chisa s2, but which are denia good sequences and lynae/mornye good sequences?

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okay and actually also lets say I decide to play fb aemy, would having lynae and mornye be a waste?

neat robin
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Hiyuki can use them, chisa still ideal tho

ashen gulch
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I mean it wouldnt hurt to have both option available for aemy if I use hiyuki

neat robin
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S2 lynae buffs. Dont think its worth it
S1 + s2 mornye
But again if you’re picking, dps dupes first

ashen gulch
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and thinking on s0r1 hiyuki, mornye and denia is easier than s3r1 hiyuki and s0r1 mornye

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is denia full fb support or she deals great damage?

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the thing is I actually love chisa she is like my 2-3rd favorite character

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so using her with my favorite seems funnier

neat robin
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Hey they did change the 4c chromatic echo to fusion dmg

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Need that set for denia in aem team
And the lynae set for denia in luuk teamUlrich_Thinking

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I’ll be busy for a while, need to farm hiyukis set too when it releases

burnt shoal
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what did the echo do before

neat robin
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Oh idk I might be thinking of the wrong set tbh

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Ik this set only has reactor core for 4c ig its just a new boss for it

neat robin
knotty fiber
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Misinfo in the age of AI

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What's new

barren drift
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hell yeh

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  • 36% cr from denia's signature
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just need a better 4cost and we're cooking

rapid dew
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still stands

warped willow
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still can’t get anything

neat robin
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Is there any comparison for tbb vs lynae set on denia
Before I start rolling stuff

barren drift
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like i started enhancing for chromatic foam today

warped willow
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@marsh wind

neat robin
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Oh boy guys guess whats denias 2nd best weapon is

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Ok realistically, yinlin is shit. I can definitely steal her sig if I cant get denias own sig

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@knotty fiber if youve been following denia

If my luuk is s3, would you say pact denia is better for his personal dmg vs using reel denia for herself?

knotty fiber
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she doesn't have much personal dmg

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don't even bother

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she used to have more personal dmg in fb but it was also removed for fusion burst dmg

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just use whatever that gives more support capability

neat robin
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Ok pact for luuk then
Chromatic for aem

knotty fiber
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reel is at the strongest when strain reaches 4 stacks but it takes really long

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and is only good for single target
well I don't remember if there's a tune strain transfer mechanism somewhere

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pact is a lot more well rounded

neat robin
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I want to say yes
Or at least something in luuk sequence that gives +1 stack
But I’m just gonna assume pact
Dps is so close, and less limits if I wanna use luuk either for tower or for whimwa

knotty fiber
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pact is more well rounded

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especially if you don't have danya's sequences

neat robin
#

Yeah I think just keeping s0r1/string

sick jacinth
#

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vernal mason
modest epoch
sweet coral
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It just explains it

warped willow
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my queen ❤️

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queen yearner❤️

burnt shoal
burnt shoal
vernal mason
#

Whether it's a justification or not depends on how people perceive it

ashen gulch
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2 questions, first anyone that is interested in aemy fb, in fb is it still more worth to vertical invest in the dps mainly like s3, or is like Denia/Chisa sequences worth as well? And second my any chance someone has a phase 4 account with aemy region unlocked?

barren drift
#

poggers

knotty fiber
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The game is easy enough to play with a barebone comp

ashen gulch
knotty fiber
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Aemy is your go to then

ashen gulch
#

Okok

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yeah cause I want to get aemy even s6 if possible

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but idk if denia and chisa copies are worth as well I do like them as well

knotty fiber
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If I tell you fusion burst dmg doesn't give a shit about their 50% dmg bonus buff would you still think it's worth

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And fusion burst dmg is the main highlight of the comp anyway

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And Aemy from S3 to S6 is worth times more than their S0 to S6 altogether

ashen gulch
#

Okay so I'll focus on that first

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After that I can grab Denia copies, or Chisa, but even before that I guess getting Carthy copies will always be better

knotty fiber
#

To me

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The only danya copy that is worth getting in fb comp is s4

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And chisa 🚮

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At least Chisa S2 can be used in future comps

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But none of their S2 is worth getting for fb comp

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Cuz the dmg dealers have too much dmg bonus and a big chunk of the dmg can't be buffed from stat buffs

knotty fiber
#

Cuz of the 10% fusion res pen

ashen gulch
#

I see

burnt shoal
#

is it better to spend on mornye cons than danya

barren drift
#

bro im missing just 1 on the right side C_TaoHehe

neat robin
#

Are you trying to use only 1.x chars?

barren drift
#

anyone suggestions

barren drift
#

15 seconds off at the 4th stage

neat robin
#

How built is that carlotta SuS

barren drift
#

72 280 s0r1

neat robin
#

Wait no its lampy

barren drift
#

yeah

neat robin
#

Nvm

barren drift
#

this guy moves so much so

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lowkey lost on who i should play

#

should i try to build buling for the 20% amp?

neat robin
#

Could be better
Shes pretty quick to rot

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Just need to learn her combo rq

#

Intro 3basic skill? Or something like that for the 4 sigils
Double check tho

barren drift
#

man fuck this boss

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moves around like an idiot

barren drift
#

havent gotten around doing it

neat robin
#

When we eventually get to new fed I really hope we learn more about calc
Still interested in why he overclocks into a TD form

neat robin
#

He also said the collab banners would be done similar to pgr dmc collab

grim grove
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||What's the deal with the evil Rover?|| I'm doing the quest rn and I'm confused

neat robin
#

(New banner, starts at 0 pity)
Whether wuwa gets 1 free copy / discounted multis tho.. idk

grim grove
vernal mason
knotty fiber
#

Repeatable

vernal mason
vernal mason
knotty fiber
#

Can't rmb

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I alr quit a while ago

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Prob 100

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Don't expect it to be similar

#

PGR system is completely different from wuwa

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100% rate up, 0.5% rate + 60 pity OR 1% rate + 80~100 pity

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Can't rmb if it's 1% or 1.5% but you get the idea

knotty fiber
#

my brain

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trying to do the qs

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I had 22k run but forfeited it and now it's lower

vernal mason
knotty fiber
#

4 more to go but my brain turned off

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maybe I should leave it until I get danya

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cuz when she's here I'll have to restart from luuk anyway

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😭

vernal mason
knotty fiber
#

I used weak teams to scrape off HP for better rotation flow

vernal mason
#

I didn't got it

knotty fiber
#

tune break

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7 and 9 were to scrape off some HP

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so that my rotation could flow better

vernal mason
knotty fiber
#

tune break does fixed dmg based on your level

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so even an ultra trash team can do some dmg

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as long as you hit frequently enough

knotty fiber
#

I played augusta for the first time today

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(My account has got her from day one cuz of an accident)

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And I can only say how pissed I am with her kit

neat robin
#

I fucking love augusta

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It does punish you for either missing a hit or swapping off her though

knotty fiber
#

her outro is

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the worst

barren drift
#

i love my augustuh

neat robin
knotty fiber
#

this is the worst

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I don't have enough teams to completely kill heron anymore

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now my aemy team is kinda in a tough spot

vernal mason
#

I couldn't best past the astronaut in round 2

knotty fiber
#

now I can only get 45k with her cuz I can't finish her last rot

vernal mason
#

S6r1?

knotty fiber
#

65

vernal mason
#

S6r5?

knotty fiber
#

Last matrix I got 60k+ something

warped willow
#

🐳

unreal coral
#

70% RES / 2.67x more EHP than usual

ashen gulch
#

question for people who knows, im seeing aemeath qs is pretty strong?

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all this is basically cause I saw a post about hiyuki quickswap with chisa and aemeath, and saying they actually work pretty well together in a quickswap. so idk

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actually didnt knew there was one with aemeath carthy chisa as well

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based on that comment i dont know shit

neat robin
#

Uh
None of them make their proper potential
Game is easy enough yeah obv 2 of the strongest dps in a team will clear stuff fine

ashen gulch
#

what does aemeath need to reach her proper potential and what does hiyuki needs?

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and what about if its with carthy (either of the 2)

neat robin
#

Carte issue is she doesnt have any erosion unless you’re also swapping her into small form and back into fleur

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Carte outro only buffs aero dmg so no benefit to team

ashen gulch
#

thats the video in case you or anyone want to check it

neat robin
#

Aem only has half her self buff because shes the only app of fb in either team
Outro sure, 10% amp

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Hiyuki gets 2/3 of her stacks (herself + chisa)
Outro doesnt help anyone

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Theres a hiyuki carlotta qs team

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But dot dps in general dont want anything but their own element (+chisa)

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But like I said game is easy
You dont need perfect team / gameplay to clear tower

ashen gulch
neat robin
#

Aem gets a stack (2 for max buff) when any teammate applies fusion burst
Hiyuki gets a stack (3 for max buff) when team applies glacio chafe or havoc bane

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Carte just needs 6 erosion on the enemy but she cant apply on her own without sweaty carte/fleur swapping or having s3

neat robin
ashen gulch
ashen gulch
#

Because if that's the case then hiyuki won't have her max potential until another glacio chafe

knotty fiber
#

I haven't sweat cartethyia this much in such a long time

neat robin
ashen gulch
#

But then it's correct that hiyuki can't reach her potential only with Chisa?

knotty fiber
#

Isn't that "potential" just buffing glacio chafe dmg anyway

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Her chafe dmg isn't that big to begin with

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Unless it matters in her lib activation as well

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I don't read her kit enough to know about it

neat robin
#

Her bite dot is also chafe dmg

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3rd chafe/bane teammate gives 30% amp to chafe
Not really sure how much dmg it actually does though

ashen gulch
#

well

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I guess ill s3 carthy and aemy

knotty fiber
#

and even so, when comparing to the big picture, the 3rd stage is not that big

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so I'm thinking maybe the 3rd stage will only matter when lucilla is out, which makes glacio chafe dmg matters a lot more

neat robin
#

Mm fuck I need rejuv chisa

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Only carte doesnt and if I have hiyuki then carte is going back to aerover/sanhua for 3rd slot

wraith steeple
neat robin
#

I prob wont just cuz I need to save tuners for hiyuki build now

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Got denias pact set done

wraith steeple
#

the team dmg difference isnt that crazy tbh

vernal mason
#

Only amy+chisa?

rapid dew
#

denia lupa amy

vernal mason
#

I seriously hope she reruns soon

knotty fiber
#

I'll take that

ashen gulch
#

Question, cause I've not read tbh, what's the rupture mode of aemy exactly? Like fb she gets buffs from stacks right? So what does she do on rupture

neat robin
#

Its kinda just.. more dmg

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She has a stackable buff instead of more dmg with more debuff on enemy

knotty fiber
#

rupture aemy or fb aemy, same shit

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the difference is in the proc

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essentially aemy personal dmg doesn't change

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it's the rupture and fb behaviors that she causes in each mode

neat robin
#

Rupture mode buffs herself for more dmg
Fusion burst debuff enemy for more dmg
+her 2nd passive which buffs for having 3 rupture / 2 fb teammates but its same max amount of buff for either mode

unreal coral
neat robin
#

Augusta still my best score
But I dont have any s6 dps

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Forgot I hadnt finished banners event too
Used carlotta for it
Nameless has such a good boss theme

placid holly
knotty fiber
#

cuz if you are about to say rupturous trail then no it's same thing as fusion trail

barren drift
#

wait

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i might just get hiyuki instead

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for a third team

neat robin
#

She has more personal dmg cuz all the buffs in rupture

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Fb gets a lot of dmg from fb itself

unreal coral
#

tower HP inflating again next cycle

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whiwa unchanged

barren drift
#

they better give good buffs

unreal coral
#

this is the big one

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no more universal total DMG

#

before everyone has some way to get total DMG increase

#

that last part looks like a mistranslation

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google said you only get 50% if you apply it yourself

neat robin
#

Thats a significant hp increase

wraith steeple
#

can danjin mains still clear it?

ashen gulch
#

before pulling tomorrow ill in fact first try hiyuki

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just to know who to pull first, cause as design I think aemy is way cooler

#

but maybe hiyuki gameplay feels very nice

#

also question, around how many pulls you need to gather 360 corals, assuming you start from 0

rotund drum
#

they're adding flight again lmao

#

i guess everyone hated the bike

ashen gulch
#

bike is cooler

#

flight is just better

neat robin
#

I love the bike

warped willow
#

how use lyna e and mornye

warped willow
#

i dont even tp in lahai roi

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i put on voyaging stars farewell and Cry while riding

neat robin
# warped willow how use lyna e and mornye

Mornye n3, skill, heavy(goes midair), skill, ca until forte, ult, echo, swap
Lynae intro, ult, hold normal until fully charged (hyvatia summon somewhere in here), 3forte skill, swap

warped willow
#

holy shi t

#

aemeath did so muchj fucking Damage

ashen gulch
#

(I have her s0 already and would do all the top ups ofc)

unreal coral
#

at least 40 every 80 pulls

#

you can expect 60 if you only get weapons or non S6 4* half of the time

ashen gulch
#

are you counting 5* gives more?

unreal coral
#

5* gives 15, weapon/non S6 4* gives 3 and S6 4* gives 8

#

the page says average 4* drop rate including guarantee is 12%

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ChatGPT said that's 9 items on average in 80 pulls

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so just add up 15 with 9x 4* drops

#

40 is like the super low ball

#

losing every single 4* drop to a weapon or non S6 4*

ashen gulch
#

Well the part of s6 yeah I think I have none s6

#

Idk I'm so tempted on pulling hiyuki tomorrow

#

I might be able to get away with Denia Mornye and hiyuki all s0r1

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But that would be having less funds for aemy and idk when to expect her rerun knowing Lynae and mornye rerunned very fast

unreal coral
#

if you want to save money just skip all the support sigs

ashen gulch
#

I don't pull a character without r1

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And I dont mean money I just mean pulls

#

I can get all those by just playing

#

But I want to s3 aemy min, if possible s6

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Well I mean aemy won't have only 1 rerun I can get some next rerun and finish it in another one

ashen gulch
#

btw does s3 aemy wants denia? I saw on reddit that s3r1 aemy in rupture is better than in fb but idk

ashen gulch
#

Okay I think just figured, assuming I can only choose 2 s0r1 my best call is hiyuki and mornye, I can still use aemy without Denia but getting another dps would be nice since I only have Carthy and Aemy and I just stick to rupture aemy for now

burnt shoal
#

oh buttons have rounded corners now

sand trout
#

hiyuki only has one mode right

#

I want Hiyuki, the only problem is her best team takes supports from both sides of Aemeath and my Amy is S2R1.

#

Any chance of a Lynae replacement?

neat robin
#

Lucilla in 3.4

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Or get denia next half for amy

ashen gulch
#

Denia is less of a solution cause Chisa, but yeah Lynae is just there for now but not her bis at all

unreal coral
#

server's open already

neat robin
#

??

#

2 whole hours early wtf

ashen gulch
#

They usually open around this hour from my experience

neat robin
#

Its pretty normal to be 1 hr early, not 2

unreal coral
#

this guy was cringe

ashen gulch
#

I lost my 50

#

had enough to secure her but Ive need to farm like 600 astrites for weapon

neat robin
#

Now how long to unlock the new area🤔

ashen gulch
#

idk and im just in the mt something story imagine how long for me

#

hmm I need to see once im leveled but I can see why hiyuki playstyle might be cooler

sand trout
#

gonna play future waves and hope lucilla is hiyuki's slot 2

#

otherwise jianxin forever for me

neat robin
#

About 30mins to get wing bike

sand trout
#

lmao

#

i love opening the event page to claim rewards

#

and getting fucking spoiled

#

nice job kuro

#

well its smol spoiler on the scale of things but still

ashen gulch
#

and if she is not then other would come, as I told you, lynae is not her bis by far

sand trout
#

dont click dimmr traces event tab if you dont want spoilers lol

sand trout
sand trout
#

and its hard to see them brick her kit unless you have 2 glacio chafe appliers

neat robin
#

Hiyuki cant max her kit without a third chafe/bane

#

So yes she’s getting a new teammate

ashen gulch
#

Its just logical if they dont plan to release why would they make a kit its impossible to max not even at s6

#

if it was something that at s3 she can max maybe but its very clear they have a teammate planned for her

sand trout
#

maybe glacio rover was true after all

#

am i tripping or are there new menu icons

#

guidebook looks different

neat robin
#

Yes its new lol

#

So like
What does aerover use in carte team

#

She doesnt need any of the atk buffs

#

Chisa been kidnapped to hiyuki now

unreal coral
#

just use Sanhua

sand trout
#

for wpn or echo?

neat robin
#

Echo

#

Whatever I’ll just use sanhua

sand trout
#

windward pilgrimage or gusts of welkin

neat robin
#

Meh cia has gusts

#

I’m not farming a third set of windward

#

Zani can stay alive for at least another singularity rot

ashen gulch
#

actually considering to just s3 both aemy and hiyuki and do play the qs team

dusty crown
#

is luci supposed to replace chisa or lynae for hiyu

ashen gulch
#

if I like them both and is a team it can work in a way, I dont see why not

sand trout
#

okay 8 echo sets on the same tacet field is actually ass

#

it's so hard to farm gear for hiyuki lol

vernal mason
#

There's a tacet field with 8 sets?

sand trout
#

that reset daily

ashen gulch
#

Ok actually nevermind, I'll get mornye s0r1 at least and try Denia, hiyuki s0r1 is already good enough

ashen gulch
#

Anyone, I have a question from 1.0 to 3.2 stories which ones are a must to play and which ones are skippable in your opinion?

vernal mason
#

You can skip every one of those of you want

ashen gulch
#

With must I mean the ones that are good and enjoyable

vernal mason
#

And the ones that are good are already s part of main quest

unreal coral
#

here we go again

#

well, it makes more sense this time

#

except for the Luuk part

#

how can 2 people that competes with each other for teammates share the same tier

#

???

unreal coral
#

I'm not sure that one outspoken guy defending that list back when it said Carlotta = Cart was involved in it

#

the gist of the argument was Cart can't use Rover because Rover was better off with Zani

#

reading the criteria gives me cognitive dissonance tbh

neat robin
#

Still not crazy about chisa but glad I invested back then

unreal coral
#

Augusta is in the same tier with Sigrika

#

but Augusta has actual F2P teammates while Sigrika has none

#

this is the criteria

neat robin
#

Only thing that’d make it work is if theres electro enemy in there currently

#

But also pretty sure middle tower uses aero lady too

unreal coral
#

not sure what Phoebe is doing there

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or how she got there

#

I can somewhat explain Hiyuki and Iuno being there because there's no good F2P liberation buffer

#

Galbrena got hit hard by the echo count mechanic

neat robin
#

Gal triple fusion is honestly fine tho
But not f2p either

wanton bridge
#

so hiyuki is a lot weaker than aemeath?

neat robin
#

What no lmao
Like just tiny bit below (and missing bis)

#

Aem sig/hiyuki carte/luuk basically atm

unreal coral
#

this is the real tier list

#

that one is the "value" one

wanton bridge
#

Ah

#

Pryd listing a new char as t1 is weird

#

So thats why i asked lmao

unreal coral
#

the way I see it is the value tier list measures how good a character is if you half ass them

#

with F2P teammates, F2P weapons

#

that are permanently accessible

wanton bridge
#

I think ill have to nerf aem, and use zz with hiyuki? Idk

#

I doubt ill have pulls for her supps

#

Amy can live with just lynae right A_smolhutao

#

My morn is s1

unreal coral
#

yes

neat robin
#

How significant is mornye s2

#

I either spend money now that topup is reset and pull s1/ buy s2 hiyuki
Or just buy mornyes s2 wCoffee

unreal coral
#

it's not going to beat the actual main DPS S2

wanton bridge
#

Yeah

unreal coral
#

looks like a ~8% upgrade from S1R1

neat robin
#

But how does it help for like non-tune teams

wanton bridge
#

The meta on this game is minimum supp and all in on the mdps tbh

neat robin
#

Do you even need s2 faster break to maintain the 20s s1 buff?

unreal coral
#

the calcs say it's ~8% over S1R1 for both tune and non-tune

neat robin
#

Hm

#

I’ll keep the s1r1 then

#

I’ll get hiyuki build worked on and mess around in tower before deciding to get dupe or save them

burnt shoal
#

omg wuwa weekly boss spoiled me just logged in

neat robin
#

Pretty sure it was obvious if you did the story up til now
Or like. Watched the trailer showing denias combat with her threnodian look

barren drift
wanton bridge
#

fking low rolls

#

but sure

#

does that beat this tho A_smolhutao

#

or this

knotty fiber
knotty fiber
neat robin
#

Like yeah I did 2-4 with my carlotta but
Either qs time or retirement outside of singularity I think

#

Oh also
Dont open char menu in 1000gateways rn it keeps bugging out & gotta restart

neat robin
#

Weird question but would pact yinlin be best build for aem yinlin mornye team in singularity
My hiyuki dupes means no denia lol bceTired3Dead4

barren drift
#

hmm i should get mornye

barren drift
#

they optimized

#

it was 114 gigs

#

ofc bruv

storm needle
#

I had sanhua cam cam mornye. Probably should have made sanhua do more than 3 damages since she somehow always is in some team

barren drift
spice finch
#

Is denia a must pull for S0R1 luuk S1R1 mornye?

#

I have S0R1 lynae

neat robin
#

Not at all

#

Denia frees up lynae for hiyuki ir if you wanna mix n match
Aem denia/lynae and luuk denia/lynae

spice finch
#

I dont have aem and also planning to get hiyuki

#

Im thinking lucilla is her partner so maybe I'll keep lynae with luuk

neat robin
#

Then no denia needed

#

At least we should have lucilla beta while denia banner is still up so it’ll be easy to pick which one is needed

burnt shoal
#

omg denia

burnt shoal
warped willow
#

thank you shorekeeper

#

holy shit

ashen gulch
#

does lynae specifically buffs rupture damage or she buffs outside rupture so like for characters that are not rupture focused

neat robin
#

She gives dmg buff and dmg amp too

ashen gulch
#

outside outro?

#

Like could I play Aemy Lynae Chisa in FB if Aemy is s3

#

or in other words use Lynae instead of denia

neat robin
#

?? You’re still using her outro
But yes between hyvatia lib outro, lynae has a lot of buffs

ashen gulch
#

I just know I want to use aemy and chisa together from there idk if Ill use lynae or hiyuki

ashen gulch
neat robin
#

Made it sound like you were using her without outro

ashen gulch
#

no no I wanted to know cause some dude said that no that only her outro buffs

neat robin
#

If you’re already using aem chisa, hiyuki will never get proper strength

ashen gulch
#

would get the same strenght as if its only hiyuki chisa anyways

#

and saw a second video of hiyuki aemy qs

#

not like she will get proper strenght without chisa anyways jaja

neat robin
ashen gulch
#

yeah but I dont want to play aem without chisa

#

they are my favorite units

#
  • thinking on skipping mornye now to get s2 chisa
#

or maybe I could get mornie but no denia

neat robin
#

And you want denia?
Aem lynae mornye is her rupture side

ashen gulch
#

I like denya yeah

#

I like lynae more but denia is cool

#

my issue is basically I dont want my hiyuki to be bad

#

but well seeing how things are maybe I shouldnt have pulled hiyuki lol

neat robin
#

If you really wanted aem with chisa then yeah lol

ashen gulch
#

what should I do at this point

#

cause if I do learn to quickswap with hiyuki and aemy that would make my lynae go to waste

#

and I wont start a new account I would lose my carthy lol

#

I hate when the units I like they just dont go together

#

or are not compatible in a way

#

btw just to be clear, I refer mostly to do overworld stuff and some challenges, not for like matrix or however end game is called, I dont really care about those, and well I clear whiwa and tower for rewards and in there I dont care to just use them separate

#

but for like the boss challenges and overworld stuff

neat robin
#

Why did I roll pact set fusion 3c

#

Now I’m gonna be upset if I dont get denia

neat robin
#

Why tf are these so buggy
They dont die or the 2nd one doesnt even spawn in

#

Literally dead why are the ghosts of them still attacking

knotty fiber
#

Surely my Danya pulls will still be lucky on the roll

#

I have been so lucky with Endfield and re1999 lately it might fuck me up later

wraith steeple
#

holy shit hiyuki go dumb

ashen gulch
#

So tempting to spend all that lol

storm needle
#

720 or ignore that page as always. Accidentally bought max pulls there instead of the monthly reset tab once and now go 1cpm there

#

And as someone on something like a 20 5star no earlies streak, the pull conversion is not as good as cons

ashen gulch
#

I mean 360 is enough to not ignore it

storm needle
#

I feel like if you're considering further investing c1 won't be enough for the lifespan of whatever it is

#

In most cases, don't know current

ashen gulch
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I would only waste if there is a character I want and I need some pulls to get it because like the banner is minutes away from going

storm needle
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The power jump value is loaded more favorable at c2 for most chars

ashen gulch
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I mean that doesnt mean that 360 is still enough to not ignore it?

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If I pull a s1 rn I get s2 for free for example

storm needle
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Sure

ashen gulch
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If im buying the copies in the shop believe me im going either s3 or s6

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as I intend to s6 aemy

storm needle
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My take is based on my experience (easily replicated) of never lucky so I'm more penny pinching

ashen gulch
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and would like to s3 carthy at least

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but is still tempting to like redeem some pulls jaja

storm needle
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That's what side games are for lol

ashen gulch
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but ofc I have enough self control to leave it there

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once in another account I did redeem a 10 pull cause "I had the feeling I was going to get carthy copy there"

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I did get it

storm needle
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I think my failed shop redeem was around that time, I did not get it

ashen gulch
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actually if I pull for s4 aemy I think its guaranteed I can get both in the shop

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I will s0r1 mornye and from there just fully save in both pulls and money until aemy reruns

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can get denia in a future

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actually that means im skipping lucilla is there anyone I can as replacement?

ashen gulch
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question assuming I already got s6 aemy, I heard denia s2 and chisa s2 for fb are the good ones, but what about in rupture which are the best sequences for lynae and mornye

dapper oar
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is it wise to pull S1 mornye instead of hiyuki

ashen gulch
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do you want hiyuki?

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And for what would you want s1 mornye instead of a new unit

dapper oar
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im just gonna pull hiyuki and maybe try for an early S1 mornye

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if i don't get an early I'll just pull denia

warped willow
tired zodiac
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Got her and her weapon in 2 10 pulls

unreal coral
neat robin
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Solo

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What

warped willow
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i might have an idea who this is

neat robin
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Inferno rider bike deco

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From this puzzle

warped willow
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is this a spoiler? idk its not 3.3

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omg wait this looks soooo cute

grim grove
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I love Chisa so much

warped willow
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got mornye

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r5 discord it is

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no lynae,,,

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quickswap changli i guess

neat robin
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Ok gotten through some story
||so exostriders and the sentinel mechs are different things, I want to see more.
And aleph1 is coming back at some point, plus we know theres a bunch of other threnodians out there like ovathrax||

neat robin
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Motorbike gonna be pissing me off when I try to update builds with this 15 extra er
I’ll forget its not always there

ashen gulch
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kinda regretting to pull hiyuki first

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I should have pulled mornye and if I dont get hiyuki I would be fine

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but now im kinda obligated to get mornye

delicate skiff
ashen gulch
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damn im not bored nor burned at all and today I went from 20 pity and about to reach 50

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and I just did like huanglong bit of exploration, unlocked rinascita and did like all the tps and stuff but only did sonance casket a few secondary missions and now doing bolbfly

warped willow
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what 4cos does deni use

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bro they put a collection spot in a void storm

dapper oar
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i finally got hiyuki and now saving for denia

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maybe will try for an early mornye

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not getting hiyuki weapon tho I'm stopping my all sword journey

neat robin
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I think the 3c moth thing is the buffer echo for Reel set

ashen gulch
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I farmed 50 pulls just today, please please please just let me win this 50/50 if not I promise Ill start hating hiyuki

ashen gulch
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Ill uninstall this game

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and never using hiyuki

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52 pulls in a day to get a verina

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and I still need to get 2 pities to s0r1

vernal mason
ashen gulch
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capturing radiance is the best thing

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but I swear like Ill give my hiyuki for a fucking lollipop rn

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you know what I hate, but ofc this if you want to take it as jealousy or idk, but when people that dont even play the game just log in to do 1 pull and its like uhh I got the character and never play again, and then there is other people losing their minds playing every single day just to get nothing in exchange

dapper oar
ashen gulch