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ashen gulch
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like another healer or idk

knotty fiber
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With the current calc

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Hiyuki is pretty much stuck with Chisa for big dmg

ashen gulch
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then i might just pull her for collection but not use her

knotty fiber
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Any other healer results in big loss

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Ofc the current theorycraft is just feelcraft

ashen gulch
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ill see first to see the reruns

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cause idk if for a carthy s3 sk or chisa result in more damage

knotty fiber
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And for Danya, if you wanna use her with Aemy then Chisa is also a must

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Cuz the fusion burst dmg is x1.8'd with Chisa's extra stacks

knotty fiber
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Still big tho

ashen gulch
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and yeah I like aemeath way more than hiyuki, but is her fusion burst team better than her break?

knotty fiber
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SK sequences and sig are useless for cartethyia

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Chisa is just the best if you have her sig

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Even against aerover

knotty fiber
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But it's the strongest when aemy has s2

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Gotta see how they work in test for s0

ashen gulch
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well yeah then I have a problem here

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basically all my team seem to want chisa

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I would need to see the difference between playing carthy without chisa and aemeath fusion burst and playing carthy with chusa and aemeath break

lyric fjord
knotty fiber
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it explodes, and deals dmg at max possible stack

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so with chisa and aemy, fusion burst is proc at 6 stacks and deals dmg at 13 stacks

lyric fjord
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ah "more than 5 stacks" so 6 yes true ty

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so why is it not x1.3

knotty fiber
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I alr deleted my videos but the difference is pretty big

lyric fjord
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when chisa's outro is active

knotty fiber
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because not every status has the same amount of max stacks

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aerosion only has 3

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go figure

lyric fjord
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i assumed exploding with 13 stacks would be x1.3 compared to exploding as if it had 10 stacks

knotty fiber
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that's what I thought initially but at the same time it would have been too weak

lyric fjord
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right when i was thinking of skipping chisa......

knotty fiber
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in total

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in my test

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she gives like x2.13 multiplier to fusion burst proc with her outro and max havoc bane stacks

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tried multiple times and it's still the same number

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so it probably really is x1.8 instead of x2 like my friend said

ashen gulch
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and how good does miyuki seems to be?

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hiyuki*

lyric fjord
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we don't have her numbers yet. The only damage value we know of are denia's turret dmg i think

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ah nvm, must have missed it, the FS people are sharing calcs including mv

neat robin
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Hiyuki has some rupture stuff in there, plus a bunch of new liberation scaling
Lynae basically predetermined 2nd bis

lyric fjord
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i was about to give up after using around 800 tubes this evening

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legit my best echo ever

neat robin
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Wtf

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Aem 3c?

lyric fjord
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yep

neat robin
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Thats a lot of er

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Mines still missing a cr sub but shes got lik 90 after echo set so whatever

lyric fjord
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i'm missing 1% and i don't remember ever missing a crit on the big nuke

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she's really crazy good at farming overworld with s2+
i heard phrolova was better but i don't have her

unreal coral
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Hiyuki v0 calcs is looking like Cart v0

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she's already doing at least 2.4m while missing her alleged BiS

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Lynae Mornye is already at 2m+

ashen gulch
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im not sure what to pull or what to do now...

unreal coral
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just don't backpull and you'll be fine

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no new teams so far has went backwards meta wise

ashen gulch
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What is backpull?

unreal coral
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pulling for old characters

ashen gulch
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I mean I like way more to just vertical invest in the ones I like already rather than just getting the new ones always

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That's why I prefer pulling Aemeath or Carthy cons

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But Denia is cool, but they both want Chisa

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Hiyuki as well, so like that would be 3 teams that want Chisa, at what point that is a good idea

unreal coral
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Chisa is only like 200k more team DPR above Mornye right now

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and that's only because she has more personal damage

ashen gulch
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So you would say to go Aemeath Lynae Mornye and Carthy Ciaconna Chisa?

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So they don't dispute Chisa

unreal coral
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it all comes down to who Lucilla is going to replace

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if it's Lynae then it probably won't look good without Chisa

ashen gulch
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Uh?

unreal coral
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I was talking about Hiyuki

ashen gulch
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Oh

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I mean and if they both want Chisa I would either need to wait to see if hiyuki has another team or there is a Chisa replacement

unreal coral
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we can't keep waiting forever tho

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at that point we'll just keep waiting until EoS

ashen gulch
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What is EoS? Jajaj

ashen gulch
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Or I could have her in case I don't use Carthy at an specific moment or idk

unreal coral
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have to settle somewhere

ashen gulch
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Yeah I'm was talking first about Aemeath and Carthy

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And I would prioritize completing their teams and vertical invest in those 2 before caring that much about hiyuki

unreal coral
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you'll have to ask someone with both high invest Cart and Amy

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I only have access to S3 Amy while my Cart is S6

ashen gulch
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"Only" jaja

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But ask what exactly?

unreal coral
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which one feels better with missing teammates

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Since they're competing for Chisa

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Or will be I guess

ashen gulch
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I mean I wanted to know how for is fusion burst style from tune break style in Aemeath

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Cause if it's not far I can just use them both without wanting Chisa

unreal coral
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fusion burst style isn't done yet

ashen gulch
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But then in general pulling Lynae now is a good idea right?

ashen gulch
unreal coral
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We're not sure how good Denia is so far

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but I can say Cart Cia Chisa feels infinitely better than Cart Cia Aerover

ashen gulch
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Nah but playing with not 5* it's boring

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  • even tho I like rover I hate Aerover a lot
unreal coral
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I would say yes

ashen gulch
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Ill pull her, Ciaconna and Mornye

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From there vertical invest

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Try to s3 both at least

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And I think I need to s3 Carthy first cause Aemeath will still get reruns

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Idk if Carthy will have much more reruns... all 1.X for example I doubt they'll rerun ever again

unreal coral
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lowkey Cart Cia alone already feels better than adding Aerover

knotty fiber
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apparently it's x2

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and chisa's thread of bane buff (18% def pen) is not applied to the fusion burst procs

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because fusion burst can't be affected by buffs

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only debuffs and auras

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I also learnt that def pen and def reduction are also different

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they don't count in the same variable for mathing

lyric fjord
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i thought the def shred chisa had was a debuff on enemies

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ty for testing

unreal coral
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only havoc bane

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Thread is a buff on the character

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Leaks discord is saying Denia will let characters take ownership of fusion burst

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so maybe Chisa's thread will work

knotty fiber
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not seeing that in her kit ngl

unreal coral
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actually I think it's just kill ownership for now

knotty fiber
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kill ownership doesn't mean anything sadly

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probably for this I guess

ashen gulch
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what does all this mean in like dumb language

unreal coral
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Should work for Chisa's bane transfer I think

ashen gulch
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Like idk if all that means that chisa is better than expected ro worse

knotty fiber
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well

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she's good

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just not as good as I thought she was

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so kinda worse ja

ashen gulch
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oh

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good then Im more clear now to keep chisa with carthy

knotty fiber
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still need chisa for fusion burst to work properly in whimwa

ashen gulch
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I mean I wanted to play fusion burst only cause denia is cool

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I dont really think I need fusion burst for whimwa, thats possibly the easiest mode

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now im just thinking if Ill pull hiyuki or not but I mean that was a doubt I had since the beginning

unreal coral
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it's just sad that if you have Cart Amy and Hiyuki you can't run them in their best teams at the same time

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all 3 needs Chisa and Lynae is needed by both TB Amy and Hiyuki

ashen gulch
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I mean not hiyuki in the future

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but its okay

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I think hiyuki is cool but not thaaaat cool

ashen gulch
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which sequences from Lynae, Mornye, Ciaconna and Chisa are worth it?

unreal coral
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just get main DPS sequences

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beta is out too

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if leaks server can get their volunteers we might get animations later today

unreal coral
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insane

lament shuttle
warped willow
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wheres denias tacet mark

unreal coral
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Aero truly the Glacio of Matrix

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there has never been a matrix cycle with no aero res boss

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my time has come

knotty fiber
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Not a resonator

warped willow
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does she not have one

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really big one

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in her second form

knotty fiber
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It's not a tacet mark

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Consider it something like sk's

stray ether
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Do we know about any new 4cost echos for denia? Since the echo set is already farmable

knotty fiber
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no

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still not visible to us yet

unreal coral
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Hiyuki/Lynae/SK is already a 2M DPR team

neat robin
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So thats like aem both teams will be over 2.2

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I’m surprised sk over chisa tho since her bane app gives hiyuki a 2nd stack of buff

neat robin
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Interesting
(stc depending on fb actual dmg values)

knotty fiber
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ST scenario doesn't fully showcase FB actual power anyway

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Cuz FB has splash dmg

neat robin
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Its prob accurate enough for toa

lyric fjord
neat robin
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So hiykui was changed to gain stack from rupture too

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So chafe/rupture/bane team mix n match
Lynae mornye/chisa
lucilla chisa
Whatever

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They did learn from zani, thank god for that

lyric fjord
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Only need one of these options too. Having her passive reach 3 stacks is barely better than 2

knotty fiber
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pretty sure strain is still gonna be lyn's set if things keep going like this

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danya alr got 45 tbb in her kit

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you don't wanna overshoot it

neat robin
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But vs her buffing setUlrich_Thinking

knotty fiber
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and that's why I said using lyn's set

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it's strong af

neat robin
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The new tbb set is for tune denia isnt it?

lyric fjord
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I just noticed, with current echo + sig + traces, hiyuki overcaps in crit rate quite a bit

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Its sad

neat robin
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Maybe they change sig

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Augustas was changed to 12cr pretty late in beta

lyric fjord
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That would be very nice

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It also makes her not want sk, which reduces her options

knotty fiber
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but now the kit is weird

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because she alr provides 45 tbb

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the set gives 20 tbb and nothing else

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no atk no dmg bonus buff

neat robin
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I would hope the 4c echo buffs

knotty fiber
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even if it buffs

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hyvatia also buffs

neat robin
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Also
Fixed aem. Still missing that 1 cr sub but gained like 20k dmg on ult

knotty fiber
neat robin
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So you mean lynae set on denia

knotty fiber
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yes

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you're only missing out 10% atk on danya

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at least that's the current case

neat robin
knotty fiber
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well I said lyn's set and not lyn herself

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the set doesn't have any elemental restriction

neat robin
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+43 lib
+22 fusion

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I think I just give up on that last cr roll
Cant get anything with cr cdmg er

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Another 400tuners down the drain

knotty fiber
lyric fjord
neat robin
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Yes

lyric fjord
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Oh

neat robin
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Better for fb afaik

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Also hjust rolling anything I get ele or atk cuz I have no luck

lyric fjord
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True, denia, denia sig and her echo set gives fusion dmg% iirc

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Actually denia sig gives atk maybe

knotty fiber
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but it has spectro dmg

neat robin
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Aw man I guess theres no generic buffing rectifier like eog/static

knotty fiber
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so probably not meant for danya

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and instead lyn in luuk's comp

knotty fiber
lyric fjord
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Question on hiya :
"When Hiyuki stays out of combat for more than 4s and has fewer than 1 point of Snowforged Blade, restore 1 point."
Does this mean all rotations after the first won't be able to unleash a 3 stacks lib?

neat robin
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Meh you prob wont be holding it anyways. Cast and swap

knotty fiber
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ney

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out of combat means the whole comp is out of combat

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being switched out is not going out of combat

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just on standby

lyric fjord
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Kind of bad for her matrix performance then

neat robin
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Wouldnt it be like augusta where you gain the stack precombat
& all following rots dont need it

knotty fiber
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it is for pre-engage

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like hsi's s2

neat robin
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Err like you gain the req stacks through the rot, you dont need the preloaded stack

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Only needed for 1st rot

lyric fjord
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Well no. The rotation to get 2 stacks already seem quite long. I dont see how you could get 3 stacks without losing all your buffq

knotty fiber
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does this mean the glommoth will get a glacio chafe support set

neat robin
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Ive been assuming thats lucillas main slot

knotty fiber
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anyhow

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I need a new trailblazer main slot for danya

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😔

neat robin
knotty fiber
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I want her to deal dmg too

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but the only viable cost 4 for trailblazer set is sigillum

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and it's aemy exclusive

neat robin
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They arent gonna make a kit and physically be impossible to actually use the kit

knotty fiber
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or at least, I hope this one has trailblazing star set too

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so I can swap between foam and trailblazing if I want to

neat robin
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Reactor husk in foam set rnbceTired3Dead4

lyric fjord
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Afaik the rot is
Intro E 3rd basic 3arrows
Lib 3lai charged attack (+1 stack)
Basics to charge lai back up
3lai charged attack (+1 stack)
Charged lib outro

It already seems long enough, i dont see how you would fit another lai rotation in 15s

knotty fiber
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fuck it's only foam set

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TBB

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it's also nerfed to 15 lmao

neat robin
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Thats fine right? Like luuk is the only current one who needs tbb and its full buffs for him at +50

knotty fiber
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it is fine

neat robin
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If you doing s6 denia you’ll prob just double up aem + denia both on trailblaze bceStare2

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How long does mornye buff last with s1
8s extended by 150%
20?

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Ok also can I just say
I love they’re making these chars with a huge ponytail & not everything split

knotty fiber
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it's just a bummer that there's literally no other main slot for trailblaze other than sigillum

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and it's dead locked to aemy

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(and no, it's not better than fleurdelys to justify the exclusitivity)

neat robin
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At least fleur is still a buff to non-carte/rover

knotty fiber
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yep

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they could have made 10-15 for sigillum

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25% lib dmg bonus looks bigger than cartethyia's 20% aero dmg bonus

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but it actually isn't

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because a big chunk of aemy's dmg is rupture/fb

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and those aren't affected by any dmg bonus

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so it's just kinda equal to 20%

knotty fiber
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now that I look at the other 2 neg status sdps sigs

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then danya's sig is pretty trash lmao

neat robin
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They really wanted to have denia being her own dps and not support

knotty fiber
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ngl 10% res reduction would still be better than 24% atk considering how hungry chars are for elemental res

lyric fjord
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does someone know which standard banner is the best for corals/pulls ? weapon or characters?

neat robin
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I mean if you get s6 standard chars you get a lot of coral

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But if you can get a standard weapon when some are only like 10% different than sig those are also good value

lyric fjord
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yeah unless i pull chisa, i have no need for any of the standard weapons

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it's why i'm asking, since i'm sitting on around 230 standard pulls i think

ashen gulch
lyric fjord
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ty

ashen gulch
knotty fiber
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you can just wait til the final version

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and see how they balance her

knotty fiber
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Fb doesn't use any stat

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It's a fixed dmg and is only affected by debuffs or designated buffs

neat robin
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Not fb dot itself
But for fb aem

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Instead of tune aem

burnt shoal
knotty fiber
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atk ele

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ele ele

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this is with 65 Aemy which has 32% extra dmg bonus compared to S0

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also 60% liberation dmg

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01 Lynae -> 01 Danya has almost 0 change in atk and dmg bonus allocation

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01 Mornye -> 01 Chisa has a lil bit lower dmg bonus, 40% from mornye's forte to 24% Chisa's sig

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atk amount remains the same assuming you use fallacy rejuv on chisa

neat robin
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Ok and assuming equal subs atk ele should be tiniest bit better

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With my very unequal subs, atk atk is best
Its lupa for me rn

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Regardless you kinda just go whatever has better subs

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I gained 10k from atk atk but my s0 hits only 360k
While a 70k difference on a 3.2m hit is irrelevant

warped willow
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@marsh wind

lyric fjord
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How many pulls did we get for anniversary last year? I know we should expect a bit more since we're also getting a new area and MSQ but idk what to expect

lyric fjord
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wtf

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i thought it would be around 120

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guess i'm good for whatever i could have wanted to pull then lmfao

neat robin
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Well thats including whatever standard pulls
Maybe closer to 150 limited

lyric fjord
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oh ty

ashen gulch
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hiyuki is getting tempting to pull

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but I still dont think I like her more than my big booba elf

knotty fiber
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As an f2p you could pull a char in that anni patch even if you lost 5050 and bloody red both 5*

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Well, not first half at least

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Some are still in 2nd

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But as always you get most of the pulls first half

lyric fjord
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well i have 145 right now and i want hiu s0r1, chisa and lucilla later, but if we get that much pulls i should be fine i think

ashen gulch
warped willow
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finished actually buildin

wraith steeple
warped willow
wraith steeple
warped willow
wraith steeple
warped willow
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waiting for denia

wraith steeple
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ohhh

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got chisa or lupa?

warped willow
wraith steeple
warped willow
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well

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1 bp

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for shorekeepers sigil

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i have her c5

warped willow
wraith steeple
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sk?

warped willow
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yea

wraith steeple
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omgggg

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her c6 is a mini mume

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nuke*

stray ether
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Are there new areas in 3.3?

lyric fjord
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Yes

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Another frost area

neat robin
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Ok
Still have aem, qiu, xy/changli/hsi?
70k easy

neat robin
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Ow xy was not good vs astronaut

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Stupid flying bosses

rapid dew
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most of the time his hitbox is grounded

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even when hes in aur

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air

warped willow
knotty fiber
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s6

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or s3

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I don't remember

neat robin
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Zz is still better for s3 lotta so I’m happy. Keeps her used
Idek what buff she got for singularity, never read it

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I just know yinlin buff was lib% bonus to next(?) char when she ults

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S3
Lotta
Luuk(lynae is such a time waster)
Carte

S2
Aug
Brant

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If denia has fast rots I might grab her for luuk anyways ngl
Hiyuki can still work with lynae chisa

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My first aug rot was just under 14k but I had to switch her to later for the 2 round2 kills

wraith steeple
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i really gotta get my teams together

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its hiyuki

luuk

brant....

phrolova

4 teams

i wanna buff brants team but idk how to

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is lupa s3 worth it?

neat robin
warped willow
wraith steeple
neat robin
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For brant prob not worth it

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Something like aem lupa chisa tho
But then why pull 3 extra lupa when you can get 1 denia

wraith steeple
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got it

neat robin
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Eh? Or get galbrena

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This is s0r1 lupa, s2r1 brant, s0r0 gal

wraith steeple
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nah im good

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well

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actually...

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hm...

neat robin
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I keep forgetting which combo is for echo gal & which is more heavy attacks

wraith steeple
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idk how to use gal

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and i want her to fck shred health

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like my phro does

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but shes s2r1

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and qiuyan aint getting out of that team

neat robin
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One sec

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Ok nvm my gal is deciding not to crit today

neat robin
neat robin
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Uh
Which floor? Idk which ones have fusion shill rn

wraith steeple
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and what would the best to invest in vertically?

wraith steeple
neat robin
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Gonna have to give me a minute to redo some floors lol

neat robin
wraith steeple
neat robin
sweet coral
wraith steeple
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i cant put moryne there bc shes glued to luuk

sweet coral
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True A_smolhutao

warped willow
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contemplating if i should get lynae

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no mornye though

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probably just gonna wait for denia nvm

knotty fiber
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Yes if you plan on running 2 of the new comps

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Aemy, Luuk, Hiyuki

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or if you wanna make some of the older comps stronger

warped willow
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dont have luuk not planning on hiyuki

knotty fiber
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Then you have your answer

warped willow
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much tempting though

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Maybe its time to sell My Wardrobe and swipe

burnt shoal
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@knotty fiber even if mornye s1 wasn't op mornye is a 2 energy char

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so u potentially get 2 more teams that can meet the 5k breakpoint if u still don't have enough dps

knotty fiber
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and that's 2 costs instead of 1

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moreover, it depends on whether the person in question even gives a crap about matrix

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I also don't wanna see any matrix advices from a person that doesn't level their characters past lv80

burnt shoal
rotund drum
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i literally just fell asleep in the middle of one of the rhythm game event songs

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good sleep aid i guess?

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the songs are too long

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each one is literally like 5 minutes

neat robin
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Wuwa music are actual songs, yeah they’re 3-5mins long

rotund drum
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i still got S lol

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good thing the cutoff is low

warped willow
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inb4 a wuwa ost has 300+ bpm

vernal mason
vernal mason
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It was a nightmare to get enough s for the rewards

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Not that the location of the icons on phone helped in any way

neat robin
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You can change button locations yk

rotund drum
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i found out you can just press all the buttons since there's no penalty for pressing the wrong button

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so i just mapped them to JKL and pressed all three on every note

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i cant tell the left/right apart otherwise since i can't distinguish blue/green

knotty fiber
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or the other way around

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63 BPM

warped willow
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batshit insane

knotty fiber
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480bpm, just use a different time signature

warped willow
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have you played SITL

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on arc

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it’s looks soooo fun

knotty fiber
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maybe enough to sdp it

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not a fan of the track however

warped willow
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im going to play maimai tdy

knotty fiber
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not like I care

warped willow
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Denias fucking Dead

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Nooooooo

knotty fiber
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I hate the use of vocal samples in that track

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always have

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and always will

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some vocal samples are fine

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and some are not for my ears

warped willow
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fair enough

unreal coral
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is this what I think it is

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v2 out too

vernal mason
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They changing the weekly challenge or something?

unreal coral
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1.x Illusive Realm is coming back

vernal mason
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That thing was soo good

burnt shoal
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omg that april fools video about illusive realm was real?

neat robin
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Very good addition

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No more moving through 10 menus to change skill mode

warped willow
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Waiter waiter I would like 600 collabs

warped willow
spice finch
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What weekly boss does hiyuki use?

delicate skiff
neat robin
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No

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Its new

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If you open it, it says ||denia’s boss||

delicate skiff
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Ach wait, I see the description above

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Hmmm, they should change the site a bit

vernal mason
burnt shoal
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new wuwa combat event fun

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there's even chests in the area too

burnt shoal
#

woa iuno in the sky

unreal coral
sweet coral
burnt shoal
#

whale

warped willow
burnt shoal
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energy too

burnt shoal
#

glacio is back

burnt shoal
#

rip jinhsi only around 1300 whiwa

burnt shoal
#

how do u clear infinite torrents

vernal mason
#

Oh and lots of retires

lyric fjord
#

Without good whiwa characters, it's quite hard. I think jinhsi is bad for it. However carte is supposed to pulverise the mode

knotty fiber
#

How does "using lv90 chars" sound

wraith steeple
neat robin
#

Carte is pretty average at whiwa but you actuall need to be quickswapping her team setup

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I genuinely dont understand why no lv90
Its so fast to do

rotund drum
#

what makes you think his chars arent level 90

sand trout
vernal mason
neat robin
#

Yes

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Less level difference for resistance or defense or something like that

knotty fiber
neat robin
#

It does affect it

knotty fiber
#

Yeah doesn't seem a lot ja?

neat robin
#

It sounds like a little but its a pretty significant increase

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Especially for your dps

vernal mason
#

Well i just level up all my characters to lvl 90 cause it feels good so i never considered this

sand trout
#

This isn't genshin anyways. You're swimming in resources to level characters.

knotty fiber
sand trout
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No reason not to

knotty fiber
#

Which is pretty much direct multiplier

neat robin
#

I leave my dislikes at lv89 so they’re at the bottom

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aka chisa
Phoebe is lv80 I think

sand trout
neat robin
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Idk if I actually levelled her I slapped moonlit and gave her to zani

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And both are benched forever

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Stupid waste of pulls

sand trout
#

Zani is actually pretty good if you're a super sweat i thought?

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Like on par with carte

vernal mason
#

Or only 1?

knotty fiber
#

1

knotty fiber
#

Zani's skill ceiling is insanely high

vernal mason
neat robin
#

Zani qs is nuts

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I just hate zani

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I pulled cuz shes pretty but

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So not worth it

vernal mason
#

So i would need to choose who out of hiyuki or ameath denia gets her

knotty fiber
#

The difference can be as big as doubling matrix points

neat robin
#

I think I had like 4.5k in singularity with only a bit of qs zani
All s0 only zani with sig

sand trout
#

Fair enough, i skipped carte cuz shes tied at the hip to ciaccona

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And i hate ciaccona

wraith steeple
#

based

sand trout
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Hiyuki looks cool but my lynae and mornye are already tied up with amy

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And my amy is s2r1 lol

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And i skipped chisa

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Looks like a save for cyberpunk angle for me

neat robin
#

Wait

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I have a good picture of the lahai teams

lament shuttle
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Lynae so much in demand

neat robin
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Not sure about the luuk - lucilla one but possibility

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I like they’re all pretty mix n match

placid holly
#

even doing 3nf zani every patch singlehandedly makes doubled pawns a drain every patch for me

vernal mason
unreal coral
#

there's a 2.5M DPR Cart in there

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the ancient QS wisdom increased my Cart's score by 2k

neat robin
#

Tf

neat robin
unreal coral
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S6

neat robin
#

Makes sense
12k for me with s3
s0r1 supports

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I only do the quickswap setup ik you can sweat and qs the entire time but thats
Meh

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Oh hiyuki has a cinematic idle like qiu
Nice

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Also kinda wanting denia for luuk now
Good for whiwa and that way lynae can go to hiyuki Ulrich_Thinking

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Unless my hiyuki pulls are horrible

burnt shoal
#

if only denia was first half

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me got 3 stars on whiwa for the first time 2 months ago

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then 3 stars again the next whiwa

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now going from 3 stars to 0 stars

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whiwa too rip for my account

neat robin
#

Skill issue

burnt shoal
#

zani so op

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boss deal so much damage

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left the quest area but enemy is stuck outside the quest area rip

unreal coral
unreal coral
dusty crown
#

So apparently the anniversary stuff sucks?

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Just woke up and saw that on reddit

exotic idol
#

:( i wanted to post it

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Oh well

unreal coral
vernal mason
neat robin
#

For free stuff this is pretty much the same as last time

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But yk how people are theres no free char selector for a limited char so its shit
Theyd complain even if there was one though tbh

delicate skiff
#

Ppl will always complain

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All of this seems gucci to me, esp the free accessories and bike stuff

vernal mason
vernal mason
neat robin
#

I think its good
45 limited pulls and 15 standard

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Did they show banners yet?

vernal mason
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No 10 character banner like last time

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Just hiyuki iuno mornye

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Denia chisa phro

delicate skiff
vernal mason
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Everyone got the chance to get what they wanted

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Don't have to wait for really long

neat robin
#

It is
People just panic because ‘its too many I cant pull all 10 chars’ cuz they’re stupid

vernal mason
delicate skiff
vernal mason
#

Just take whatever you want and get going

neat robin
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I’m grabbing s0r1 hiyuki, coral for s1 mornye
& Probably s0r1 denia

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I think luuk denia mornye will be fun for whiwa

vernal mason
neat robin
#

They want 1 rerun every 2 two years like some hoyo chars

vernal mason
#

Which tbh is understandable
Genshin reruns simply suck

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You get some characters have rerun in like 3-4 versions while many don't get one in like the literal region

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Meta wise it's nothing big but if you wanted that characters cause you like it well good luck

neat robin
#

Wuwa starting double rerun so early was very good

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Triple rerun soon maybe lol

vernal mason
#

Also is it something new that gacha weapons are getting their own animation

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I am sure it wasn't the case before

vernal mason
#

It was really good

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Too bad people can never accept good things

ashen gulch
#

This time we didn't get the many character rerun in anni?

ashen gulch
#

Oh

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Then I guess I'm pulling hiyuki

neat robin
#

I lost aem and both luuk so surely I win hiyuki and denia DruvisCopium

vernal mason
neat robin
#

Mornye is my only 3.x win

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Lynae aem and 2 luuk all losses

unreal coral
#

it's been so long since our last post-stream previews

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I think the last big one was 2.4 when they showed everyone from 2nd half of 2.x

neat robin
#

Ig cuz collab is next

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Then they’ll show mengzhou chars Ulrich_Thinking

ashen gulch
#

oh and I need mornye too, she is phase 1?

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Cause hiyuki does want chisa 100% right?

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I thought on not pulling Hiyuki only cause I thought we were going to get the many ¡characters rerun so I was planning on pulling ciaconna and carthy copies but well

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guess not

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unless you guys tell me its highly possible that chisa is replaced for hiyuki (cause she is not bis for whatever reason) so i get hiyuki and denia instead

lyric fjord
#

She wants chisa, yes. Unless there is a glacio chafe healer in the future

ashen gulch
#

which sequences are good for hiyuki

wheat palm
#

An action figure of Aemeath in her mecha suit... huh...

barren drift
#

wuwa collab with pragmata dayum

vernal mason
ashen gulch
vernal mason
ashen gulch
#

yeah iirc the team is Hiyuki Lucilla Chisa

vernal mason
#

I don't really remember but there was definitely that she is gonna be hiyuki bis

vernal mason
#

It seems both hiyuki and ameath fusion teams would need chisa

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Damn guess i would have to choose between one archetype

ashen gulch
#

I mean thats why I said pulling mornye jaja

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aemy lynae mornye hiyuki lucilla chisa

vernal mason
#

Sentinel and threnodian resonator in the same team

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That's gonna be soo cool

lyric fjord
#

Visually they dont fit together though. While aem fits lynae and mornye really well

ashen gulch
neat robin
#

Codes

FACEALEPH1
2NDANNIVERSARY
EVERSHINE

neat robin
ashen gulch
#

since I have aemy will play lynae getting mornye is a must ig, so in the worse case I leave her s2 or s1

ashen gulch
#

wait question

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did they say anything about top ups going to x2 again?

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I just assumed it will since its anni

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ok I just saw there is the reset thank god

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there is no spending event right?

dapper oar
iron wigeon
#

Looks like I bet on the right horses

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3.3 phase 2 will be for me. I can get Denia and Phorlova and I’m set with my 4 teams

ashen gulch
#

Idk it might be me but I feel it doesnt feel much like anniversary patch?

iron wigeon
#

I don’t think there is a spending event

dapper oar
#

no spending event

iron wigeon
dapper oar
iron wigeon
#

They probably didn’t want to double down on spending event plus double top up reset

ashen gulch
#

I mean last time they even apologized for it but I feel this time is even worse than last time jaja

iron wigeon
#

What are they going to do about the 1.X characters though? I feel like they are trashed

ashen gulch
#

this was ofc on me but for example I was skipping hiyuki cause I assumed that the 2.X characters rerun was like secured almost, so I was gonna get Ciaccona

dapper oar
#

i think they genuinely thought people purely hated the multi banner anniv patch so they just removed it

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and didn't add anything else

ashen gulch
#

Also yeah they could have at least either announced future buffs for 1.X characters, give one for free, or just rerun them, or add them to 50/50 pool

iron wigeon
#

People will never be satisfied

ashen gulch
iron wigeon
dapper oar
#

and it's not even worth getting them now

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not when they rerun phrolova 10 times

ashen gulch
#

like I could even argument than basing it in the last anni patch of gi, hsr, zzz and wuwa, this is the worse one

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And that is big to say considering gi

dapper oar
#

I don't think GI was better tbh

ashen gulch
#

they at least gave standard 5* for free lol

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considering amount of pulls + that it did in fact gave more stuff

iron wigeon
#

Do you really want a standard WuWa character? lol

ashen gulch
#

but I mean they could have like

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announced something

dapper oar
#

GI was especially nice only because they have the stella fortuna thing, otherwise number of pulls are way less

dapper oar
ashen gulch
#

do you mean the number of free pulls or in patch pulls

ashen gulch
dapper oar
dapper oar
#

mind reminding me then

ashen gulch
#

the genshin part I mean

dapper oar
#

bcs i don't remember much

ashen gulch
#

the amount of times genshin had 60-80 pulls are very rare cases

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and anni is hard to count cause they have the advantage where the last 2 anniversaries were in new region as well

ashen gulch
#

but for example this is the current wuwa patch

dapper oar
#

instead of anniv patch

ashen gulch
#

and this is genshin current patch

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differences is 4 pulls

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and they are both just random patches

dapper oar
#

they don't call sigrika skiprika for nothing i guess

ashen gulch
#

and this is aemeath patch against columbina patch

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15 pulls diff

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they both when its a random patch gives similar and whenever they have an important characters pulls increases

dapper oar
#

genshin has the better treatment of not always having two 5 star characters

ashen gulch
#

but its not like people want to sell it that is way more

dapper oar
#

whereas wuwa is following ZZZ path

ashen gulch
#

but it is true that wuwa pity is less

dapper oar
#

do we have counts already for 3.3?

ashen gulch
#

thats why it has that feeling of more pulls cause you can get c0r1 easily than in genshin

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idk

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I trhink we do not

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this was last year anni patch tho

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okay this might be it instead

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cause 110 feels way too low

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I need to decide if I want to spend in wuwa or hsr anni

neat robin
#

Ew hsr

dapper oar
#

oh yea 110 is definitely too low for anniv

ashen gulch
#

SW is cool the thing is yeah, being a turn game like I dont really get that excitement on spending

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I spend way more in gi

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cause I "use more" the characters

dapper oar
ashen gulch
#

I do spend but just like the bonus top ups and in really weird cases like cyrene and I did not even spend a lot

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I didnt get the bow skin for example

neat robin
#

Idk why you still look at this 2nd anni and its 45 free limited + 15 free standard pulls
before a single repeating event/shop/map /new events
And people say its bad

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Imo pulls are better than a standard selector at least I can use them on limited banners instead of a shitass standard thats staying at lv1 forever

ashen gulch
#

iirc the free pulls are not available all in 1st phase, and again cause aside from a few free limited pulls

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in the livestream there was nothing else that was much especial

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like

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last year they rerunned a lot of characters at least

dapper oar
#

another free standard 5 star weapon is definitely better and kind of in a similar value

neat robin
#

The ‘spending’ event that was zani market thing from 1st anni should be back afaik
10 more pulls there

ashen gulch
#

they could have done a spending event to choose a 1.X as well

neat robin
#

5* standard weapon would be preferred over standard char yeah I’m ngl

ashen gulch
dapper oar
#

god knows how i can't just casually use my characters and had to use demo in matrix because i simply don't have the weapon built for everyone

neat robin
dapper oar
#

they took the criticism in a wrong way definitely

ashen gulch
#

I mean they could give for free 1.X character... Or place them in 50/50 lose pull not like it seems they want to rerun them either way

ashen gulch
#

but imagine if someone wants changli

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now what

neat robin
#

Yeah ik I love the multibanner

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More reruns means less time inbetween

dapper oar
#

same it's how i got stringmaster

dapper oar
vernal mason
dapper oar
ashen gulch
vernal mason
neat robin
#

Well they either do it or they dont
Theres not a middle ground

vernal mason
#

They don't understand that no matter what they do they can't satisfy twitter

ashen gulch
#

cause I get you cant pull everyone but the point of that banner is not for you to pull everyone is to have a chance to rerun all characters or at least all past region character so like all 2.X in this case

neat robin
#

We have 3 banners like normal instead of 6 banners like 1st anni
(Per half)

vernal mason
#

Wuwa devs need to learn to adapt

dapper oar
#

they spent 3 years just to fix grass they don't know how to

ashen gulch
#

Everyone has their favorites, if someone wants to pull everyone in anni patch is because they def did not pull the old ones in their first rerun for example

vernal mason
ashen gulch
#

like I prefer not be able to pull everyone but I can at least choose whoever I want

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rather than if you dont like the ones they are coming well the anni patch just feels less especial

neat robin
#

Yes cuz we’re smart in here

ashen gulch
#

people that complain about 6 banners arent gonna get the ones of the 3 banners either lol

neat robin
#

They obviously had enough backlash that they decided it was smarter to not redo the multibanner

dapper oar
#

is hiyuki also completely tied to denia/chisa like carte with cia?

neat robin
#

Uh

ashen gulch
#

not denia, denia is for aemeath fusion burst

neat robin
#

Hiyuki lynae chisa atm

ashen gulch
#

from what it seems to chisa might be

dapper oar
ashen gulch
#

cause lucilla will replace lynae

neat robin
#

I mean you can prob get away with hiyuki lynae mornye

ashen gulch
neat robin
#

Fb denia for aem
Strain denia for luuk

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Pretty sure hiyuki is rupture so you can use rupture lynae for either hiyuki or aem
Strain lynae for luuk

ashen gulch
#

Yeah but I think chisa is just always better with hiyuki

neat robin
#

Probably yes

ashen gulch
#

cause aemeath does have the option to just play rupture always

#

im just sad idk what ill do with my carthy

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I mean I think that ciaconna will rerun eventually

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but I wont be able to get my big booba elf copies at least for now

neat robin
#

Or you s3 carte HideyCake

ashen gulch
#

actually maybe this is better I can pull hiyuki and then save more for carthy jaja

neat robin
#

Cia is better for her sig honestly

#

S3 carte can run sanhua chisa lol

vernal mason
neat robin
#

Or rerun

ashen gulch
neat robin
#

Oh nooo ew wait
Hiyuki means I need to use aerover again bceHeartBroken2Cry

ashen gulch
neat robin
#

I mean is s3…. I could do carte sanhua cia

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Depends how much I skillissue and die

ashen gulch
#

You could solo Carthy jaja

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Also now that I thing about it

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No free skin this time?

vernal mason
#

Or was it cia

vernal mason
neat robin
vernal mason
#

He is free

neat robin
#

Since carte cant use any of the atk buffs

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Then I dont have srover

vernal mason
#

Plus it's not like he has done other use

neat robin
#

Hm

vernal mason
neat robin
#

srover for zani when I dust her off for singularity

ashen gulch
#

idk if I should do s0r1 hiyuki > s0r1 mornye and then go full copies on hiyuki

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or first get copies for hiyuki and then go for mornye

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getting mornye seems like a must for my aemeath

neat robin
#

Wait for the trial run to see if you like hiyuki more than aem

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If you dont, get mornye first

ashen gulch
#

I mean I can easily get both

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Its just if getting hiyuki copies first

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or getting bot s0r1 and then getting copies

neat robin
#

Oh definitely both first then

ashen gulch
#

actually I need to catch up in the story in this account (i literally have not even seen scar) I did the reroll and until know I decided to play in this account, I already have read the story and everything I thought about just skipping until catching up where I have still not done or re read everything again

unreal coral
#

not looking good for Hiyuki mains

neat robin
#

?

unreal coral
#

cutoff is at Luuk

#

Sigrika up can't be used

ashen gulch
neat robin
#

Seems a bit weird. No illusive has cut out anybody before

unreal coral
#

can you even use Phro in dreaming deep tho

#

got my answer

neat robin
#

Maybe they have a picture from it in production RegulusWheeze

neat robin
#

Guess I need to get a fusion% build for denia

#

Theres no way she needs that new tb set

#

Well this one is more for denia in luuk team

ashen gulch
#

I hope the wuwa x razer it's not another keyboard

knotty fiber
#

that's why the set exists

neat robin
#

I suppose but I’m thinking for luuk
He needs 60 to be maxed, if he has 10+45 from denia I’m not using a set for just 5 more
Maybe it ends better in the end idk

#

Cant prefarm anything rn anyways

knotty fiber
#

That is for luuk

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It's a general buff for tune strain

neat robin
#

We dont have any other strain though unless you were doing dps lynae

burnt shoal
#

woa ciaconna

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oh u can also get enemies to be on air in whiwa

warped willow
#

???

#

True ?

#

Have not seen trailer

vernal mason
warped willow
#

holy

vernal mason
#

Seems like a new thing

vernal mason
#

Cause i am sure it wasn't true before

#

Too bad they didn't add animations for older weapons

warped willow
#

we eating GOOD

vernal mason
#

That would have been so sick

warped willow
#

the new region looks so sick

burnt shoal
#

whiwa too hard

vernal mason
burnt shoal
burnt shoal
#

no lynae

#

will just have to accept can't clear whiwa now rip

burnt shoal
vernal mason
burnt shoal
#

hmmm

#

maybe if me feel like working hard to redo again

burnt shoal
#

idk if zani will do better but maybe enough to 1 star

vernal mason
burnt shoal
#

maybe during 1 day before reset

burnt shoal
vernal mason
#

You can maybe try going ameath first half and carte second

burnt shoal
#

idk maybe she is better 2nd

#

well if me only want to 1 star

#

guess can just switch aemeath and carte sides

burnt shoal
#

rip swapping teams

lyric fjord
#

oh hiyuki's second sequence now has the nuclear 2nd burst for overworld (or first burst of every fight is maxed)

unreal coral
#

her damage floor is pretty much the same but her ceiling got destroyed

#

also solo nerfs

exotic idol
#

Aeoiuf I have to do whiwa fuuuu

#

I don't want to

neat robin
#

Wait

#

Denia

#

Nerf?

#

She wont work for luuk now if thats only 10 tbb

#

The 45 tbb + cc was what made her an option

#

Oh. it still works but only with mornye
Luuk denia mornye .. which is what i planned anyways

exotic idol
#

hehehe

vernal mason
vernal mason
neat robin
#

You dont build cdmg 4c at s6 I guess

exotic idol
#

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

vernal mason
#

500 cd

exotic idol
neat robin
#

Tho the 40 is generic cdmg
500 for lib

unreal coral
#

as a solo unit her S6 is kinda underwhelming

#

part of it just does nothing unless you have another unit

vernal mason
neat robin
#

Yeah exactly

#

No lucilla? Hiyuki will still steamroll

#

actually hm
S3 gives her a snowrust stack
Applying chafe gives a stack too?

#

So you prob just cant get all 3 as solo

#

Also when did they remove rupture from her teammates app

exotic idol
#

okay i need to do the tried and true method of augusta

#

Actually... lemme try something else first

#

I definitely am mistiming first half KEKWlaugh

#

so much dmg lost in respawn

dapper oar
#

whats hiyuki and denia's ascension weekly mats?

#

the new one i assume

exotic idol
#

ph jrohhe' he's so gorgeous

#

yeah. decent.

unreal coral
#

CN calcs

#

Sigrika by the same person

exotic idol
#

can i get 5k on whiwa hmmmmmm

dapper oar
#

this combat event based on banners never fall is kinda stupidly designed because every enemies in lahai roi flies out of the tiny combat range or they were already placed near the edge of it so you just spend too much time trying to lure them inside the arena again

exotic idol
#

dang same score as before 7pu_thresh_hmm

#

can i improve...

neat robin
exotic idol
#

WHAT A COOL SHOT

#

YEEEEEEEEEEEAH BOIIIII

#

life is good.

unreal coral
#

like right now rupture Amy is a joke compared to fusion burst

#

virtually the same damage in ST yet absolutely destroyed in AoE situations

knotty fiber
#

Do you even realize that is how rupture works and not lyn?

unreal coral
#

going by the description the devs wrote in her kit the damage difference shouldn't be this close

#

sure, it doesn't say that literally but it begs the question

#

if the AoE mode does virtually the same damage as the ST mode, what's the point of the ST mode?

knotty fiber
#

Same as in 15% difference

#

And then when Sigrika is 5% better than quickswapless Cartethyia you go "Sigrika is a lot better"

unreal coral
#

just because she is more consistent in whiwa

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whether you agree with me or not that's up to you

#

tbh