that's like 3 teams + Jinshi & Cart cameo
#・wuwa-lounge
barren drift
anyone chisaing
neat robin
when will buling come
Next half, on phro/canta reruns
robust axle
this chisa bitch literally took ALL of my pulls
better have been worth it
shes hot so thats the first plus
indigo nova
burnt shoal
woa got this new arti from few days old mail
guess echo sets not predetermined
omg modified mainstat and got this
neat robin
Need double crit but usable
(Or go heron 4c)
I like her story
Gameplay is growing on me
Schoolgirl thing is still ehhhh
unreal coral
I worked hard for that clear time
it's the best combat event they have so far that is not named illusive realm
but it's close if you like any of the trial characters
rotund drum
damn every chinagacha does teh thing where you have to walk down the imaginary space while your party members tell you about the power of friendship
and hold W the entire time
i can already tell this threnodian story boss fight is gonna be the mc hacking at it with his shitty kit for 10 damage a swing for 30 minutes while npcs talk at me
then he loses anyway then his freinds save him with the power of friendship before an unskippable cutscene happens where he defeats it
yeah its not taking any damage and neither am i
can i just afk this until they're done talking lol
sweet coral
ashen gulch
How long into the story do I need to be to get Chisa flowers?
lament shuttle
How long into the story do I need to be to get Chisa flowers?
Like 10-15 mins
ashen gulch
Rn im in a "heading to shashou cafe" screen idk if I can just leave the story and start exploring or its still after this
rotund drum
i think its about there
the zone is pretty small
once you get your regular party back you can get the flowers and fuck off with the story
neat robin
Okay anyways
Chisa
I think I’ll just run chisa sanhua carte
And cia iuno qiuyuan
Bye phro
lament shuttle
capybara baiting
burnt shoal
How long into the story do I need to be to get Chisa flowers?
me read theres already materials in the black shores without needing to do quests
dusty crown
Idiot me just mindlessly traded all my corals for pulls
Because I'm still sleepy af in bed and thought it was just the reset shop
neat robin
The pink coral? 😭
dusty crown
Yes the one you can trade for sequences
All seconds after losing another 50:50 to lion boy
neat robin
…how much did you have?
dusty crown
Almost enough for a free sequence 
rotund drum
iirc the sequence costs more than that
dusty crown
I'm gonna wait on what 3.0 brings I guess before continuing 🫥
rotund drum
its not really worth buying the sequence unless you've already lost 50/50 iirc
dusty crown
iirc the sequence costs more than that
Yeah 320, had like 280ish
neat robin
You cant buy a sequence if you lost the first 5050
rotund drum
hunh
neat robin
You need to pull the char first
dusty crown
It's 40 pulls for a sequence basically so it's kinda worth it for vertical investment
rotund drum
oh
nah like
you do the pulls first
then if you dont get the dupe
you use the corals on sequence
to hold the pity
neat robin
720 coral got me to s6 qiuyuan instead of spending enough for 2-4 chars depending on losses
rotund drum
otherwise you might be using coral on a sequence you coulda gotten for less
neat robin
If your next char is in 20 pulls id rather use coral and get a new banner early
rotund drum
yeah thats when you use it
if you're at 0 pity you do some yolo pulls first
then spend coral after
dusty crown
otherwise you might be using coral on a sequence you coulda gotten for less
Your entire premise is having enough pulls to do 40ish pulls on a 50:50
neat robin
if you're at 0 pity you do some yolo pulls first
Nah
rotund drum
if you have literally 0 gems and aren't willing to whale you shouldnt be pulling for cons tbh
dusty crown
Guess what the corals are there for... 🤦
rotund drum
not before they leak the next char anyway
neat robin
Rather spend coral first
Then if you only put 10-20 pulls into char banner its on the next new char
So you dont need yk. Another 75+ because you got your sequence early
rotund drum
this is how i see it
do 30-40 pulls first, maybe you get the dupe for free
if not, use corals to buy it
dusty crown
The corals allows vertical investment without whaling
rotund drum
and now you have the sequence and 40 pity stocked
neat robin
No
pure minnow
and now you have the sequence and 40 pity stocked
It's the same as keeping the pulls tho?
neat robin
Bc then you get a sequence early & now cant afford the next char
Spend coral, keep pulls for new char
rotund drum
Bc then you get a sequence early & now cant afford the next char
if you get the sequence in less than 40 pulls you can convert your coral to pulls
at a better rate than the sequence
pure minnow
I mean whatever as long as you don't convert corals into pulls you're good
neat robin
The time it really matters is if you plan to s6
Pull for s4 first then buy 2 copies
In case of a dupe at s4+s5
rotund drum
yeah honestly either way it doesnt really matter
i always save coral for pulls but ive never had to use thme in any game
except for star fail during fireflygate
dusty crown
Doing 30-40 pulls isn't getting the dupe for "free". The total number of pulls you'll have is limited. If you do get the dupe, it might mean not getting another character - unless you do convert the coral. But then, while you're converting it at a better rate for this time - you're converting it at a much, much worse rate than the expected number of pulls for a sequence.
pure minnow
Yeah
neat robin
Ty you explained what I wanted to say & couldnt
pure minnow
Just could have been your next new char in those 30/40 pulls
Instead of the "free" dupe
dusty crown
Which is something you'll never know. 😢
So you can always wonder if at the start of a banner, if you had a 10-40 pulls instead of say 0, you'd have gotten an early pull
pure minnow
I prefer looking at it this way:
Converting corals is 45 pulls
Getting a limited 5* is 80-85 pulls on average
So you're gaining on 30-35 pulls if you buy the sequences from shop
dusty crown
Basically, never converting them will always yield a lower average cost per 5* unit/dupe than converting them
pure minnow
Yup
dusty crown
Only reason to convert is if you, as a player, have 0 interest in vertical investment and do not want sequences at all.
dusty crown
Yeah like at the end of a banner and you just need a few pulls or something
rotund drum
I prefer looking at it this way:
Converting corals is 45 pulls
Getting a limited...
soft pity starts at 65 iirc
iirc on average max rolls is around 70 in this game
between natural rate and refunds its around 60 iirc
hence stopping at 50/50 and banking
pure minnow
Im talking about average limited not average 5*
pure minnow
81 based on wuwa tracker stats
pure minnow
79,75 actually 🤔
rotund drum
iirc wuwa has an early soft pity but it goes up slower thna genshit
pure minnow
that would put your average rolls per 5* at around 55
Soft is 65 ig that's fair
rotund drum
on average its still better but you cant expect to hit 5* within 5-6 rolls of soft pity like in genshit
pure minnow
Genshin has soft at 75 and average limited is 92 or something
It makes sense soft at 65 and average at 80 compared to gi ig
rotund drum
i dont really trust those trackers since people tend to only put in their numbers when they get good rolls
rotund drum
well lets just say 80-90
and keep in mind that you get a refund on both the 4 and 5 star dupes while doing actual pulls
iirc you get a 4* every 8.5 pulls or so on average
i need to check the math on that but that sounds right
rotund drum
well if you count the value of a sequence as its equivalent in pulls
i have to check how many corals for a sequence tbh
dont even remember offhand
pure minnow
3060 corals
rotund drum
is it 45
rotund drum
so yeah 45 pulls
pure minnow
45-50
rotund drum
thats about 5 4-stars and a 5* dupe if you get it
so its about 55 pulls worth for the sequence
pure minnow
Either way still way cheaper than pulling
If you buy it with corals
You save 30-40 pulls
rotund drum
so yeah spend gems on a chance to get the dupe for cheap, if you dont get it bank the pity and use the corals
pure minnow
I would still just spend corals directly to get the dupe rather than try an early
rotund drum
the other jank thing is that the monthly shop requires a ton of the pull currency to buy the monthly pulls
so you kinda want to be doing extra pulls whenever possible if you're not a whale
pure minnow
If you're meant to get an early you will get it on your next limited anw
Mmh
Idk i never had issue with that tbh
If you only spend it to buy the monthly pulls
rotund drum
i think if you're gonna get the early either way i'd rather get it sooner
so i know and can budget future pulls better
pure minnow
But at the same time using your pulls rather than corals on the dupe can lead to not enough pulls for your next 5*
If you do get your dupe at 30-40 pity, it's 30-40 pulls you wont have for your next new 5*
rotund drum
also i had to do like an extra 30 pulls on chisa and a few yolo pulls on her weapon banner to buy out the shop
just the pulls
not even the converter things
i have s1 jiyan and s1 jinhsi from 1.0/1.1 just from trying to get enough currency
pure minnow
😭
burnt shoal
stopped spending monthly shop on standard pulls
was running out of those since didn't pull often enough
barren drift
the liberation sigil is so fun
burnt shoal
omg
rotund drum
do we know if 5* chisa's bonus multiplier on her chainsaw is additive or multiplicative
i dont trust their wording after phrolovagate anymore
burnt shoal
chisa is so op woa
(semi not really somehow my jinhsi attempt here scored 500 of the +900 more points here than my previous one somehow)
whimpering wastes is so hard
rotund drum
do you have the 20 inch spinnas girl
i forget her name atm
you dont have grouping on second half so you might wanna consider just dropping the healer and yolo smashing with her
roccia
burnt shoal
this game is scam
rapid dew
is skill issue
dapper oar
is the 1000 astrites tomorrow
neat robin
You should do the funny healer comp
Atk+electro builds and plunderer
And just spam healing
Prob do better than jinhsi can
neat robin
is the 1000 astrites tomorrow
Yes 22nd
ashen gulch
damn
my issue is my regen (Im missing still a 4cost echo and her weapon she has jinshi one rn)
lament shuttle
my issue is my regen (Im missing still a 4cost echo and her weapon she has jinsh...
we have the same ER issue...
ashen gulch
and is it being an issue for you?
lament shuttle
i dont have enough experience with her to know
ashen gulch
If yes Ill change one of the 3 cost and get a 4 cost with regen
neat robin
Messing around with the combat event, I needed 130 er in carte team
lament shuttle
okok
neat robin
It might be a bit different since toa gives you full er
But whimwa for the starting concerto half should be the similar 125-130ish range
ashen gulch
Is there anyway I can to the weekly boss for her echo without needing to complete story quest?
dapper oar
whats the best combi for the event
ashen gulch
Yeah but im grinding genshin right now, I usually like to read the story and all already skipped augusta one to get Galbrena weapons, might skip them and just see them later in a video idk
rotund drum
enjoy your unskippable cutscenes and lectures about the power of friendship and lots of exposition about galbrena's (literally who) deep dark past
rotund drum
feeb chisa and the bard girl probs
ashen gulch
enjoy your unskippable cutscenes and lectures about the power of friendship and ...
uh? I mean I like cutscenes usually jaja, but I have a lot of time might just do it later
dapper oar
theres no ciaccona
rotund drum
i just think its funny that she literally comes out of nowhere
and is like i am very important
i will defeat the threnodian
and you're just who are you
lament shuttle
mhm that is true but whats a consequence of having patch based game dev
where they have an incentive to introduce new characters more than develop existing ones
rotund drum
she just happened to be the rate up char for when they wanted to end the threnodian arc
so she gets to be the main character
lament shuttle
The only thing I’ve learned is
rotund drum
anyway yeah there was a preview for the boss last patch but they took it away so now you have to do the story mode to unlock it again
and its literally hundreds of hours long if you dont skip it
its long even if you do
lament shuttle
Pull for carte like characters if you wanna see them more than once lmao
I gave them feedback in the survey to make better decisions on that
rotund drum
it does the meme where you have to walk v e r y s l o w l y through some generic magic space while your friends tell you about the power of frienship too
and you have to hold W the entire time
so you cant even afk
i ended up just putting a thing on my W key and going to eat dinner and it was still going when i got back
lament shuttle
😆
rotund drum
at least the chisa story is fast before you get her tacet field and flowers
rotund drum
until the next time you need to progress it anyway
i think the story sequences would be a lot less painful if 1) they didnt have random unskippable cutscenes or enforced walk-and-talk sequences
and 2) they let you use chars other than Shitfucker
here is a fight plz mash left click for ten minutes
barren drift
soon
rotund drum
oh you whaled for premium chars too bad you get Shitfucker enjoy your left click
barren drift
i stopped checking for version dates and just let them come
vernal mason
omg finally my first time ever getting 1 star on infinite torrents
Wait what?
Are the enemies like resistant to any of the elements you are using?
Or it's just that jinshi sucks in multiwave
burnt shoal
idk about res in infinite torrents
neat robin
Jinhsi isnt anti-multiwave shes fine
Shes just shit for whimwa without changhsi quickswap
Augusta/fusion/carte/phro for best teams
(plus the jank plunderer team)
proven steeple
hey y'all, since Buling is going to be a healer and buff the team's skill damage, I assume she can replace Shorekeeper for Carlotta teams?
i don't have Zhezhi yet (still waiting for a rerun 😭) so I've been wondering if I should run Carlotta Lumi Buling in the meantime
i was going to use Taoqi but noticed Lumi has the same outro but also buffs team ATK by 20% at s6, which I happen to have
neat robin
I mean sk better
But yes buling can free her up for your other team
rotund drum
damn the false sovereign has so much health
hte real one is gonna be a clusterfuck whenever they release him
wraith steeple
when is 3.0
new years
modest epoch
today im doing the 2.7 wuwa story and HOOOOOOOH
phrolova stress me the fuck out
she wanna be different so badly
modest epoch
very good quest
my favorite part is when i finished it so that i could do the new story and see my goat builing
warped willow
@marsh wind ^
dapper oar
yippeee
burnt shoal
she wanna be different so badly
limber imp
Guys phrollova or chisa
I’m getting ciaconna next patch anyways
But I have
Cartethyia
Brant
Changli
Lupa
Qiuyuan
Galbrena
burnt shoal
u don't have any of phrollova supports
and cart with ciaconna too
oh if u getting ciaconna then get chisa
limber imp
u don't have any of phrollova supports
I have qiuyuan
burnt shoal
ohhh
limber imp
Isn’t he her BiS
burnt shoal
u don't have shorekeeper?
burnt shoal
me feel healer is good
if u not contending rover with two teams
u don't have to get chisa
cause aerover ok
limber imp
if u not contending rover with two teams
Nah I alr have triple fusion
My problem is I was kinda dumb and got 2 fusion based teams now…
I should have gotten Augusta+Iuno
Then chisa
I only got Galbrena cause she’s bayonetta and Dante’s love child
modest epoch
buling younger and more iconic
burnt shoal
buling younger and more iconic
not phrolova fault she has a sad backstory rip
but buling good yes
neat robin
rotund drum
cool the event makes you do the story quest before you can access it
and the story quest has more long unskippable sequences where you fight generic mobs while mashing left click with mc
i may have to just build mc as dps because these sequences are mega shit otherwise
S L O W L Y walk to the front of the line
peak content
are you fucking kidding me
this is worse than the xiangli yao event
where you had to interact with the same book like 10 times
neat robin
These machines give a few astrites
modest epoch
not phrolova fault she has a sad backstory rip
tell her to drop the violin and go work at mcdonalds or something
burnt shoal
chisa gameplay so fun
dapper oar
i wish she heals a bit more ngl i keep dying
or maybe its because i havent build her at all lmao
neat robin
You kinda need to build her lol
dapper oar
yeah her talents are all lvl 1 except for one </3, i had no broadblade upgrade mats
shes lvl 90 tho and so is her weapon
neat robin
Her lib is the heal/shield I think
neat robin
Ah lib heal, forte finisher is shield
spice finch
Even with conste like C2?
How about chisa? How good is her? My only dps are camellya, carlotta, carthe and galbrena
neat robin
Chisa is support for dot (currently just carte team)
And idk about phoebe sequences I dont like her
s0 she gets smacked around too easily
ashen gulch
Is galbrena story really 6 hours?! Is it worth doing it reading all and with calm or you guys say to just skip and see the story later
neat robin
The 2.7 quest is very good yes
You can prob skim through dialogue if you wanna go fast but dont use skip button imo
ashen gulch
I see, I wanted to finish the weekly boss today so I could farm the echo
but then idk what to do
I usually just use the skip button when I want to go fast and there is the summary thing but Ill think about it then, any other way I could farm the echo?
neat robin
You can technically just stuff a random echo in there til you do story
Sure you lose the crit from 4c but chisa isnt exactly a dps
Unless you had sequences idk
burnt shoal
how do u guys avoid overcapping echoes
my inventory stuck at near 3000 for weeks and have too much mail now
neat robin
By merging shit
If you arent building an old char suck it up and delete their echo sets
You can farm/find more
Need to farm tacet fields to get tuners anyways
pearl urchin
ashen gulch
Is chisa much better for carthe than for zani?
My carthe is s3 if that changes anything
unreal coral
dusty crown
why the fuck am i constantly being disconnected
got home from a month long trip yesterday and literally preventing me from doing whiwa
i log in, can play 3-6 minutes, and says i'veb een disconnected ☠️
and after clearing patches it's downloading at 2.7 mb/s ☠️ ☠️
ashen gulch
The 2.7 quest is very good yes
Damn you were right, just finished the cinematic where you defeat leviathan, the sotry is really really good
Kinda want to use galbrena more now, tho playing chisa with galbrena is a bit troll jaja
I think so? I guess she can still sub dps and give me sustain but would just waste all her other things jaja
delicate skiff
Kinda want to use galbrena more now, tho playing chisa with galbrena is a bit tr...
In overworld? Go ahead
ashen gulch
True, Ill still see, might be just the hype cause I just did the mission, I still love my carthy
and I dont really have a 3rd character for galbrena
delicate skiff
In overworld it doesn't really matter, tbh
I used QY SpectroRover (then swapped him to Aero) and Brant
And yet I rarely swap to someone other than QY 
rapid dew
does chisa zani srover work
chisa is useless there
use verina or sk idk
changli even
spice finch
When are we getting 3.x leaks?
delicate skiff
Forgot to swap Carte's token 
ashen gulch
damn
ashen gulch
I could try to get better rolls, but I genuinely think is very hard to improve rn
like in the ones I can get better rolls I do have 4 good substats at least
neat robin
The dot buff is fun non-stop sword rrain with the right items
neat robin
ig done. s0r0
wraith steeple
ig done. s0r0
neat robin
<a:nozscratch:1086426896142696448> <a:nozscratch:1086426896142696448> <a:nozscra...
I dont wanna hear it 
wraith steeple
I dont wanna hear it <a:HideyCake:1201204271182512280>
yeah you knew.....because just a second ago you was not pulling this girl
lmao
wraith steeple
lmaooo drip for next region soon
neat robin
I’m hoping we get more quests she’s involved in going into 3.x
wraith steeple
yeah her story was actually good
wraith steeple
hope the men in 3.x are as hot as brant
neat robin
Knowing they use pgr influence chars
I really want this mech guy leaked to be based of wanshi
wraith steeple
I really want this mech guy leaked to be based of wanshi
show me plz
neat robin
show me plz
wraith steeple
ohh I could see that
neat robin
He is unfortunately ice & guns
But he is also not a dps …
In the way kuro makes non-dps still do stupid dmg sometimes but
wraith steeple
true
potent wadi
Shitsbitshit he’s hot
Beautiful. Spectacular
Take all my money
I’ll actually be hyped for this game again aside from soullessly doing my dailies ong
modest epoch
wraith steeple
i will be there
burnt shoal
https://x.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1993182480548184244?s=20
cyrene luocha raiden
dapper oar
2.8 story was actually so cute it's filled with JRPG/shoujo tropes
wished they fleshed out the part where we found out we studied in lahai roi tho felt like it was overwritten by everything else
warped willow
oh
barren drift
pls bro just kiss
lament shuttle
ngl i kinda hope not
idk ive seeen that leakers name a lot and they are usually correct
neat robin
That white haired girl is already been shown by kuro themselves
They had her in one of those food collab promos
Lynae & Mornye
I doubt these are their actual designs because the collabs always put them in new clothes
spice finch
Are they gonna show them tomorrow?
delicate skiff
Are they gonna show them tomorrow?
I think so
spice finch
I hope we get to have guy sentinel resonator
proven steeple
how exactly does Chisa's mark work? i know it's supposed to reapply itself when she's off field and marked enemies die through some means but i noticed in my whiwa run that it wouldn't really carry over at all, or to only 1 extra wave of enemies at most
yeah like this passive and the outro
i'd outro to ciaccona then from ciaccona to carty but havoc bane wouldn't be applied to enemies when i attacked them and it definitely hasn't been 15 seconds yet at that point
cyan rain
neat robin
Only 3 teased chars then
neat robin
Lynae & Mornye
I doubt these are their actual designs because the collabs always...
These 2 + the blond guy
wraith steeple
i want blonde guy
wraith steeple
they dripped em all
vernal mason
they dripped em all
They did?
Where
Also has the sentinel resonator been dripped yet
vernal mason
Yeah my browser had some issue
neat robin
Mornye tho?? I mean the wheelchair thing was leaked way back but wasnt expecting that
wraith steeple
i smell mdps vibes from lucilla
vernal mason
Mornye tho?? I mean the wheelchair thing was leaked way back but wasnt expecting...
What's this wheelchair thingy?
However i just love those holo legs
wraith steeple
hollow legs is a very cool design!
neat robin
Idr but it was definitely leaked that she needed a wheelchair/cant walk on her own
Like. WAYY back
When she was very first leaked
wraith steeple
im hyped tbh
burnt shoal
hollow legs is a very cool design!
it reminds me of hysilens body being water like cause she ocean god
vernal mason
I still need to know who is the sentinel resonator
wraith steeple
plz be glacio luuk!
vernal mason
Well i lacked a spectro dps anyways (ignore jinshi) so lynae is good
neat robin
Afaik from leaks lynae spectro, mornye fusion
Both apparently support (buffer /subdps idk) not main dps
Anywaysss
vernal mason
Although the guy also looks cool with all those DNA helixes and stuff
neat robin
Apparently luuk is the mech guy 🤔
neat robin
Lucille getting copped
Yeah apparently buling has electro flare already, lucille wont be the first 
wraith steeple
Yeah apparently buling has electro flare already, lucille wont be the first <:bc...
except she will be a 5 star
so better surely right?
this is totally not headcannon
neat robin
Well buling is support lol
But yeah I think for me… lucille & luuk > mornye > lynae > sigrika
wraith steeple
bulling doesn't have electro flare amp does she?
wraith steeple
hmmm
neat robin
s6 is even bigger skill dmg bonus
wraith steeple
i wonder where chisa will play in this
scar phrolova and bulling will be a team fs
my own team
neat robin
Lol
neat robin
Okay but s6 buling kinda nuts
15% amp
And .. 60% skill dmg?
wraith steeple
60?
neat robin
Not sure if both types of thunder spell adds
wraith steeple
i thought it was 50
neat robin
10% yin and yang
25% heaven earth mind (then 50% at s6)
I would probably assume heaven buff just replaces the yin yang buff
wraith steeple
oh I thought the max buff was 50% altogether
neat robin
But idk
neat robin
Did you pull her or you’re waiting to see?
wraith steeple
real
neat robin
I wish I could refund zani & phoebe 😭
wraith steeple
I wish I could refund zani & phoebe 😭
dammm nooooo
neat robin
dammm nooooo
I’m sorry I just hate the gameplay
neat robin
I have everyone I like s2+ I can be picky for like 2+ regions now
wraith steeple
oh ok that makes sense
neat robin
But zani was a stupid decision
Games dont make enough women in pants
I fell for the hype
Shes still pretty just perma benched
wraith steeple
i had to skip because baal 7.0
neat robin
Ok I am not f2p I would like it to be known that 10 of these sequences were with coral
I have like everyone, almost
+the free XY
wraith steeple
????? you have carlotta s3
neat robin
????? you have carlotta s3
Yes?? Been having it since 2.0
wraith steeple
oh you're in very good position to skip and shit
lyric fjord
what on earth is with this whiwa reset, floor 9 felt super tanky, can't imagine how 12 will be
barren drift
is builing the dps here
she's a support kit
modest epoch
she's a support kit
well phrolova is shit and dont get me started on scar
and builing is king of wuwa so what now
barren drift
i also hope we can main dps her
railgun moves are too good to waste on her being a support
wraith steeple
is builing the dps here
lmao no
wraith steeple
well then whos doing the damage
i just read up and see the trolling so carry on
wraith steeple
railgun moves are too good to waste on her being a support
this is real
modest epoch
i just read up and see the trolling so carry on
troll and its explaining that when using the best dps in the game you should put her in a good team
wraith steeple
lmao im dead
burnt shoal
chisa so op
burnt shoal
omg 21 crit dmg
potent wadi
https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1993520082866033015?t=GooK60wx1KQ2IZNWkB1H7...
Ohgod oh god ohmygod
The way he mogged everyone omg
This fkn game knows how to design males but
Thank you verina for spooking me pity 17, HE’S GUARANTEED NOW
neat robin
I’m really excited for lahai roi
Sometimes easy to forget wuwa is futuristic
Gonna be real interesting with new fed later on if its one of the highest tech places
@wraith steeple did you notice the film reel in the background? Wonder if its gameplay or story tease 
wraith steeple
<@788498281386344498> did you notice the film reel in the background? Wonder if ...
plz be gameplay
neat robin
I think you need new eyes
potent wadi
He’s definitely 5* right
neat robin
hat, dress, hair
Yeah forgot hoyo invented long hair & hats
Lucilla isnt even wearing a dress either
neat robin
He’s definitely 5* right
They usually only tease 5* so like 99% yes
I feel like I want to delete all my moonlit stuff (3costs) but ik thats a terrible idea
rotund drum
i mean its not like kusogames doesnt rip off hoyo designs constantly
neat robin
From where
Anything you say about kuro, hoyo also takes ideas from older games/anime stuff too
You’re the kind of idiot who was saying zani copied arle
wheat moon
rotund drum
i'd say the gun girl whose name i already forgot is more like arle
although shes obv meant to be donte
the one from last banner
there's zhezhi and younou too
and the one who looks like himeko
neat robin
Galbrena is taking bayonetta & dante influence
Zhezhi ??
Younuo (iuno?) is from ishtar
Augusta has malenia influence, because believe it or not, long red hair is NOT made by hoyo
burnt shoal
vernal mason
https://i.redd.it/s8qhtxirtp3g1.jpeg
That bike is so cool
If she is gonna have it in her gameplay i am so very done
rapid dew
where
i see no similiarities
and again, you also said zhezhi copied emillie
that would again, mean kuro has insider in hoyo
because they cant steal a design, create a model, story etc in 1 week from official reveal
also, hsr mid
dapper oar
hoyo fans as if people dont mistake manato for sett with the big ass sword too and im saying this as a big manato fan
dapper oar
He’s definitely 5* right
so far only 5 star has been teased 4 stars are usually teased through in game like buling and youhu
vernal mason
Also kuro wouldn't give such good design to a 4*
dapper oar
eh design is subjective ive seen people saying he doesnt look as good as a 5 star would
barren drift
lynae waiting room
barren drift
lets goo augusta pieceee
spice finch
Is lynae a dps?
neat robin
Og leak said not dps at base kit
ashen gulch
do you guys thing changli will rerun any time soon_
?
I really want her lol
(I also need brandt and lupa)
vernal mason
do you guys thing changli will rerun any time soon_
Most likely should happen at anniversary like happened last time
ashen gulch
for all of them?? Or you thing lupa and brand have a chance to come "earlier"?
cause if thats the case I wouldnt mind having 2 accounts and start one to have changli lol
(I know lupa just had a rerun) but idk if characters usually get 3 reruns or just 2 in this game, cause cantarella will have 3 with the one coming iirc?
neat robin
2 of cantas reruns have been because of phro banner
Not sure if they’re gonna try to rerun everyone twice first then continue onto 3rd run
ashen gulch
I mean we are only missing like carthy iuno augusta and galbrena?
Oh and qiu
I would guess carthy will get a rerun with third ciaconna one
iuno and augusta together
maybe brandt could come in .1 or .2
ashen gulch
If someone starts an account rn is the character selector still available or that was just for the first year?
limber imp
Galbrena is taking bayonetta & dante influence
Zhezhi ??
Younuo (iuno?) is from ...
Augusta is most definitely based off of mavuika let’s not lie
She doesn’t even have the same hair colour as malenia
She’s ginger
Like mavuika
Malenia is a redhead
Also the sun motif
Like her eyes
Same earrings btw
Great sword user
Same backstory
Came from nothing
Ascended
Became ephor/archon
The abyss/black tide is their common enemy
Willing to sacrifice themselves to defeat it
Augusta is mavuika in Roman font
ashen gulch
Augusta is most definitely based off of mavuika let’s not lie
The others idk but this I can tell it's a complete lie (I do love Mavuika and Augusta) but maybe they both got inspired by the same base, but for when Mavuika came out Augusta was probably already planned and designed
dapper oar
also wasnt mavuika an inspired design too from Himeko Hi3
ashen gulch
also wasnt mavuika an inspired design too from Himeko Hi3
True
limber imp
The others idk but this I can tell it's a complete lie (I do love Mavuika and Au...
Mavuikas design was released back in July 2024 btw, augusta was released in august of 2025,
ashen gulch
Himeko fused with a goddess I don't remember her name but I've seen the image and stuff
dapper oar
there was a leaked concept design where mav just had himeko's entire drip
which was cool
limber imp
That’s an entire year
limber imp
Mavuikas design was released back in July 2024 btw, augusta was released in aug...
And her design was leaked around 2 months before her release
That’s an entire year
ashen gulch
You really think they saw a design and based it off in a year, this companies have things planned way before, at least that's the case for hoyo, like they are in nod Krai rn? They are already doing stuff of next region
And Mavuika is himeko
limber imp
You really think they saw a design and based it off in a year, this companies ha...
That’s hoyo
dapper oar
then i can also say mavuika ripped off Inferno Rider
limber imp
And Mavuika is himeko
I’m sorry but she has like a lot of key differences that augusta inherited from her
ashen gulch
I don't think any video game company does things without planning from one day to the other
limber imp
then i can also say mavuika ripped off Inferno Rider
Himeko had a bike before him…
Mavuika is an expy
With key differences
That augusta also has
dapper oar
and so does a character from PGR
ashen gulch
Just because they both have similar hair color cause it's not even the same and sun details (cause both are based on some sun goddess) doesn't mean they saw Mavuika and inspired Augusta on her
dapper oar
I don't think any video game company does things without planning from one day t...
yeah this too its why ZZZ feels underwhelming because it seems like they dont plan the characters design ahead
i miss S1 designs 💔
ashen gulch
More likely they were both inspired in something similar as a base
Cause abilities, and other stuff is way way different
dapper oar
also for full honesty??? i genuinely dont mind if wuwa or hoyo copied from one another
ashen gulch
And it does give malenia vibes
limber imp
and so does a character from PGR
She released in 2020 with her motorcycle in Hi3, praying gray raven released globally in 2021, Hoyo plans things years in advance and this was a spexial event
ashen gulch
also for full honesty??? i genuinely dont mind if wuwa or hoyo copied from one a...
Nah I have seen like genshin characters or well models with wuwa animations and they are awesome
dapper oar
globally** they were released in 2019 not globally
limber imp
Just because they both have similar hair color cause it's not even the same and ...
There is no Roman sun goddess
They just slapped the feminized name of Augustus on her
dapper oar
it is not inspired from roman tho i think its more egypt
ashen gulch
I never said there was?
limber imp
it is not inspired from roman tho i think its more egypt
She literally is not
She has nothing to do with Egypt
Her clothes neither her bame
dapper oar
well duh
ashen gulch
But your statement first would be completely offending to any of the people that worked on augusta or mavuika design, and its wrong
limber imp
I’m literally Egyptian btw I would be able to tell
limber imp
No it doesn’t resemble any of the temples neither the pyramids
The temples were the sorts of capitals of the cities
ashen gulch
but if she is "roman" that doesnt mean she needs to be completely based on roman stuff
dapper oar
egypt is NOT just temples and pyramids lmao
limber imp
Specifically Karnak
limber imp
egypt is NOT just temples and pyramids lmao
Yeah then you’d have basic villages
Egypts main complexes and buildings were all temples
Egypt was a religious country
The pharaohs were deified
The second strongest people in political power were the high priests and priestesses
ashen gulch
The godess name was mahuika and she was a fire goddess
dapper oar
but if she is "roman" that doesnt mean she needs to be completely based on roman...
also i dont think the game has ever made her a sun goddess ngl
isnt she an ephor
limber imp
The godess name was mahuika and she was a fire goddess
Yeah a name it has nothing to do with her design should they make a mahuika self insert in the game?
limber imp
also i dont think the game has ever made her a sun goddess ngl
You told me her design was based off of a goddess
dapper oar
when
ashen gulch
Yeah a name it has nothing to do with her design should they make a mahuika self...
uh? Bro Ive said literally 3 times that she is based on that goddess I didnt even mention anything about the name
limber imp
uh? Bro Ive said literally 3 times that she is based on that goddess I didnt eve...
Mavuika isn’t based off of mahuika
She’s based off of the Aztec sun dial
And Aztec sun motifs
ashen gulch
Mavuika got inspiration from Mahuika
ashen gulch
She’s based off of the Aztec sun dial
And she got inspirations about this as well for other stuff ofc
dapper oar
yeahh i think someone made a thread on how her gold lines are aztec symbols
limber imp
Her entire outfit is based off of Aztec sun disks
If you’d like to point out what mahuika has influenced in her design
Feel free
ashen gulch
Bro you are tying to prove something no one is debating, literally I just said other stuff is based on that, her physically not
limber imp
Mavuika got inspiration from Mahuika
?…
ashen gulch
As you said when you were saying "Im egypt so I know what im talking about" well yeah Im lating I know what im talking about as well
Inspiration
does that mean only got inspired by one single thing?
limber imp
As you said when you were saying "Im egypt so I know what im talking about" well...
Septimont lacks almost all Egyptian motifs
dapper oar
there were actual people that said that she is, FROM their own culture
dapper oar
as in mav
limber imp
there were actual people that said that she is, FROM their own culture
Yeah such as
I’m waiting
dapper oar
as mahuika....
dapper oar
Mavuika got inspiration from Mahuika
read this bro
ashen gulch
The only thing im saying is, saying Augusta is Mavuika because both have things about a sun and red/orange hair (cause they have different colors) is a complete mistake
limber imp
What else is based off of mahuika from POLYNESIAN mythology in mavuika the woman with the Aztec symbolism and a biker suit
dapper oar
lets not act as if they didnt mix and match sumeru's culture too lmao
limber imp
read this bro
Oh did mavuika pluck fire from her fingers and give it to maui?
limber imp
lets not act as if they didnt mix and match sumeru's culture too lmao
Sumeru was accurate,
The rainforest was Indian/arabic
The desert was ancient Egypt
dapper oar
nope lmao
ashen gulch
Man but why are you even fighting about Mavuika inspirations no one is fighting lmao
limber imp
Specifically the ancient civilization
ashen gulch
I was just saying Augusta is not just Mavuika copy and thats it
limber imp
Man but why are you even fighting about Mavuika inspirations no one is fighting ...
Omg what were y’all doing for the last 5 minutes
limber imp
I was just saying Augusta is not just Mavuika copy and thats it
Then who is her design based off of
It’s not malenia
ashen gulch
Omg what were y’all doing for the last 5 minutes
Literally telling you that they both could have similar inspirations and thats it
limber imp
Literally telling you that they both could have similar inspirations and thats i...
WHOS the inspiration
Mavuika is partially himeko
Partially her own design
Augusta is..
According to you guys
A Roman sun goddess (does not exist)
dapper oar
that kind of thinking means that every single character of wuwa NEEDS to have an inspiration
limber imp
And Egyptian (factually wrong)
dapper oar
or like
ashen gulch
I can see some of malenia in Augusta
ashen gulch
they couldnt make original character
I mean, inspiration does not mean its not original
dapper oar
exactly
ashen gulch
but if they want to make a character that is idk a spy the inspiration is there, it doesnt need to come from other character yeah
ashen gulch
They look nothing alike
Both have that warrior look alike, long sword, similar hair color, Im not saying she is malenia but I can see similarities
limber imp
but if they want to make a character that is idk a spy the inspiration is there,...
So we’re ignoring ALL the similarities and saying kuro originally somehow came up for Augusta’s design without ever seeing mavuikas right?
limber imp
Both have that warrior look alike, long sword, similar hair color, Im not saying...
Warrior look alike wow
Wow
Why don’t you say she’s Wonder Woman
Or Athena
ashen gulch
You are saying they were lazy and just copied mavuika lmao, when they have like 2 things in common
limber imp
She doesn’t even have the same armor type as malenia
ashen gulch
and I just said they prob took some similar inspiration in some part and that could be why they are similar, thats it
limber imp
You are saying they were lazy and just copied mavuika lmao, when they have like ...
Hair check, eyes check, earrings check, weapon type check, leitmotif check, position check
ashen gulch
but it seems you expect a copy paste, if you cant see similarities between malenia and augusta just because the hair is red and not orange, well yeah ofc we are not saying they copy pasted malenia
ashen gulch
Hair check, eyes check, earrings check, weapon type check, leitmotif check, posi...
position? lmao
you cant really be thinking that things like position or weapon type matter at all
limber imp
position? lmao
You don’t think it’s a coincidence that augusta born a regular human was so talented that she fought her way up in the challenges that also take place in a coliseum and became the leader of her country
So the way augusta became ephor and mavuika archon lacks any similarity
No tell me
ashen gulch
Im more familiar with Mavuika story than augusta, but isnt Augusta still just a strong mortal and like a leader?
limber imp
Im more familiar with Mavuika story than augusta, but isnt Augusta still just a ...
No she became ephor through a series of challenges that determines the ephor
Within a coliseum
Against other mortals
Winner becomes the ephor
limber imp
Mavuika fought within the stadium (a coliseum)
Against other mortals
Became a mortal archon
dapper oar
Im more familiar with Mavuika story than augusta, but isnt Augusta still just a ...
to me its kinda the opposite, mav was so strong from the start (was told from the flashbacks), and augusta had terrible upbringing
ashen gulch
Mavuika is mortal
yes and no?
limber imp
to me its kinda the opposite, mav was so strong from the start (was told from th...
Mavuika was a complete human
She had skill
Like augusta
ashen gulch
Technically she is mortal, in practice she is immortal
dapper oar
youd expect her to be a copy if augusta was the Sentinel resonator of the region, unfortunately shes not, shes at most a leader of a kingdom
limber imp
Archons are creatures who have immortal/longevity who inherit the sovereigns power
The pyro archon
ashen gulch
Tf are you saying
She found a way so she can be "immortal"
limber imp
Is a human who inherits the pyro sovereigns power
limber imp
youd expect her to be a copy if augusta was the Sentinel resonator of the region...
So is mavuika
ashen gulch
Man I really dont need you to come explain the things
ashen gulch
youd expect her to be a copy if augusta was the Sentinel resonator of the region...
thats exactly what im saying
limber imp
Man I really dont need you to come explain the things
Then dont spread misinformation or just say outright illogical things
dapper oar
so youre saying a human leader is a copy of mavuika?
ashen gulch
Then dont spread misinformation or just say outright illogical things
Could you say the miss info?
ashen gulch
She was human became the archon
limber imp
What is her ancient name
limber imp
the pyro archon
Is an archon not a leader?
Archons in essence are leaders for their respective regions
ashen gulch
Is an archon not a leader?
Not really
limber imp
And it’s protecters
dapper oar
Archons in essence are leaders for their respective regions
venti....
ashen gulch
They should be a leader? Yes, a leader is an archon no
limber imp
Raiden is a leader
limber imp
venti....
Ts is just stupid
He’s an archon who abandoned his duties ro grant the people freedom
dapper oar
archons are not necessarily always a leader
limber imp
It’s an ideal
ashen gulch
Its like when people said Columbina is an angel and seeles are angels so Columbina is a seele, no
limber imp
archons are not necessarily *always* a leader
6 out of seven are a leader until one retired his ass
limber imp
Its like when people said Columbina is an angel and seeles are angels so Columbi...
No
Mavuika is a leader
A human leader
Her ancient name is kiongozi
dapper oar
there you go, the ideal! which means they dont have to, we can also say ei is not a leader but raiden shogun was, ei was just a ruler
ashen gulch
Exactly
limber imp
Furina was the leader of the country until neuvilette thr sovereign took her place
dapper oar
mavuika just happened to be a leader too, while augusta? not a leader
ashen gulch
Furina was the leader of the country until neuvilette thr sovereign took her pla...
And furina was not the archon lol
limber imp
And furina was not the archon lol
Guess what she was doing for 500 years
dapper oar
she tried her best 💔
ashen gulch
Guess what she was doing for 500 years
In theory acting to say it in very short words, and I completely love furina, her being a leader doesnt mean she was the archon
but she did the archon job better than actual archons in my opinion
But you said it, ideally archons should be leaders
is this completely true or necesarry? No
And you said Im spreading miss info only cause I said Mavuika is "immortal" cause she find a way to live a lot of years... and that is true lol
dapper oar
yeah and just like the chess pieces symbolism for archons, sometimes they dont need to be a leader bcs they need to be on the background
limber imp
In theory acting to say it in very short words, and I completely love furina, he...
Oh my god
Oh my god
I’m acc going to go insane
You just proved my fucking point
To pose as an archon means being a leader
Meaning an archon
Is a leader
ashen gulch
Okay and to say other things, broadblade I honestly could see why they have broadblades, I wouldnt expect Mavuika the goddess of war she seems strong, a sword would seem small for her, and the other weapons idk it would feel weird, augusta is the same someone that seems so imposing and strong physically speaking I would feel weird if its other weapon but this is just based on my opinion on looks
limber imp
yeah and just like the chess pieces symbolism for archons, sometimes they dont n...
So 5 of the archons are an abnormality
Well 6
Zhongli just retired
He was a leader
ashen gulch
To pose as an archon means being a leader
Cause that what is what they told her she should be like, its not a must.... still archon is way more than a leader of a region lol
limber imp
Okay and to say other things, broadblade I honestly could see why they have broa...
Augusta couldve used a spear
A mace
ashen gulch
its like saying carthy and augusta are in same level
limber imp
A AXE
limber imp
Cause that what is what they told her she should be like, its not a must.... sti...
It’s a must
ashen gulch
Augusta couldve used a spear
yeah cause we have spears mace and axe in wuwa
limber imp
The pyro archon inherits the ancient name kiongozi
ashen gulch
It’s a must
its literally not a must
ashen gulch
Venti is not much a leader, zhongli as well
Raiden was she really a leader the whole time?
limber imp
Venti is not much a leader, zhongli as well
Venti was not because he embodied freedom
dapper oar
yes and this would be a copy if augusta is a leader,, which she is not, she's a ruler. None of the story also showed that she was, especially in 3.7 where she just took a backseat while galbrena does all the work
limber imp
Zhongli has been a leader since the archon war
And only retired in Liyue archon quest
KEYWORD
Retired
Ei had the shogun represent her
ashen gulch
And when he retired he is still archon even if he is not a leader anymore
limber imp
Meaning there had to be a leader
dapper oar
her position as ephor only makes it seem like shes a leader because you're hard wired on thinking everyone on top must be a leader
limber imp
her position as ephor only makes it seem like shes a leader because you're hard ...
So she’s not a leader
Shes a bread vendor?
A marketing strategist?
A general?
No
dapper oar
she's a ruler of septimont, she did not lead much in the story, all her battles are fought alone
dapper oar
then dont debate
ashen gulch
Yeah you are getting the wrong point of all and are very closed minded, its not worth trying to explain cause we are just going to go around again and again
limber imp
I’m sorry you two but you guys are genuinely disproving yourselves every other sentence
dapper oar
when
limber imp
Yeah you are getting the wrong point of all and are very closed minded, its not ...
I’m closed minded?
ashen gulch
The point is Mavuika and Augusta having similarities doesnt mean they saw mavuika and said yup, lets put it in our game
dapper oar
nope, i said there were parts that was inspired by egypt
limber imp
Then you said mavuika was mahuika
limber imp
nope, i said there were parts that was inspired by egypt
Likeeee?
dapper oar
nope, i said she was inspired by mahuika
limber imp
I’m waiting for the actual evidence
ashen gulch
I’m closed minded?
Very lol, you have contradicted yourself many times, and they you say we are disproving every other sentence when we have been saying the same thing over and over again
limber imp
nope, i said she was inspired by mahuika
But she isn’t
limber imp
Very lol, you have contradicted yourself many times, and they you say we are dis...
Ok where are my contradictions
ashen gulch
Then you said mavuika was mahuika
No one said Mavuika is Mahuika
limber imp
Y’all are spewing out claims without backing them up
dapper oar
But she isn’t
there you go, we already disagreed on that, so there is no way to make an actual debate
ashen gulch
Ok where are my contradictions
You defending all this time Archon = Leader and then a Leader is like an archon is completely wrong
limber imp
You defending all this time Archon = Leader and then a Leader is like an archon ...
Oh my god
Oh my god
I’m acc going to go insane because of yall
MAVUIKA
THE FUCKING PYRO ARCHON
ashen gulch
Y’all are spewing out claims without backing them up
Yeah and you backed up a lot of your things more than saying same weapon, same role, similar things in design yup the same
limber imp
IS A HUMAN LEADER
augusta
The ephor
Is a human leader
How did they become their nations respective leaders
Through gladiatorial combat
Both were commoners
Both had no special power
Both fought fairly
Both came out on top
dapper oar
mavuika had no special power?
limber imp
mavuika had no special power?
Yes she didn’t
She was a human
Until she became archon
dapper oar
wasnt there a whole flashback on her teacher saying she's so strong beyond her age
limber imp
wasnt there a whole flashback on her teacher saying she's so strong beyond her a...
She was skilled
ashen gulch
I mean in that he is right, Mavuika was a human
limber imp
And strong
ashen gulch
that doesnt change she was strong af
limber imp
Augusta was strong and skilled
ashen gulch
then she became archon
limber imp
Augusta was weak at the start
And became strong
Mavuika wasnt born a fucking gladiator
She trained
She fought
This takes basic knowledge
ashen gulch
But you are still saying basically they are the same lol
limber imp
A human teenager (around the time she began fighting), cannot suddenly be strong
limber imp
But you are still saying basically they are the same lol
So that story
That way to power and leadership
ashen gulch
Archon and ephor are not the same at all
limber imp
Was all different
limber imp
Archon and ephor are not the same at all
Genuinly are you ragebaiting me?
I’m asking genuinely
ashen gulch
Could you tell me (cause I genuilely dont know) what does augusta leads exactly? Or why is she so important
dapper oar
yeah and i dont think the way to power and leadership is also mavuika invented... meaning they took that story inspiration from someone else
limber imp
Could you tell me (cause I genuilely dont know) what does augusta leads exactly?...
Septimont maybe
limber imp
yeah and i dont think the way to power and leadership is also mavuika invented.....
Ok get me that somewhere else
And also
Wuwa could have used maybe 10000 different concepts but chose the one that aligned EXACTLY with mavuikas
ashen gulch
Septimont is not even a whole region iirc, and tbh I did not see Augusta leading much as kata said
limber imp
Septimont is not even a whole region iirc, and tbh I did not see Augusta leading...
Who’s the leader then?
Who is septimonts leader
She lead them in sanguis plateaus
She oversaw the gladiatorial combat
She had meetings with the senate
Do you want her to release a personal statement saying
dapper oar
she's more of a kokomi than mavuika, since technically septimont's "leader" is cartethya as they are still part of Rinascita
ashen gulch
Wuwa could have used maybe 10000 different concepts but chose the one that align...
Its not that hard, they both had sun inspirations, in the lets say the "region" of war, so the max authority could have similar inspirations of course they are both warrior fighters however you want to say it
limber imp
“I as ephor am septimonts leader dear kata and arlechinno”
ashen gulch
she's more of a kokomi than mavuika, since technically septimont's "leader" is c...
exactly my point
dapper oar
they just have otonomy