・wuwa-lounge

[winged belfry]

any Lupa owners can comment on how they feel about her?

[neat robin]

You get partial buff anyways, full buff is for triple pyro

[opaque flume]

I thought you get no buff

Why not use mort or smth

[neat robin]

Its partial for both effects without full pyro

[outer jetty]

Simple to play. I dont have her sig or standard Broadblade yet so cant comment on her performance but she look good on Brant Changli team.

[opaque flume]

Oh you get like nothing tho

[terse oak]

So, to activate Lupa's enhanced intro skill must use her Lib first then switch to next reso if intro skill is available, then switch to another reso if intro skill also available, then switch back to Lupa (with intro skill)

Kinda same mechanic like ShoreKeeper

[torn tapir]

Mid

S0R1, Encore Verina Lupa player

[winged belfry]

uhh, Encore

Yeah that might be rough

[torn tapir]

She's sanhua with a longer rotation and better buffs

Roccia ahh kit

[neat robin]

Yeah well when you arent playing her in monopyro

[torn tapir]

Her team potential is locked to brant, her value in the hame is higher than like

Canterella ig

[torn tapir]

I'll play the Mortefi team just to try it

[neat robin]

Its gonna be monohavoc next patch too

Phro canta roccia

[torn tapir]

But I doubt it's going to change my opinion

[torn tapir]

Tuff.

Wuwa about to get real boring 😭

[winged belfry]

wait, she also buffs Basics

hmmm

[torn tapir]

I suggest you read her kit, it's actually pretty interesting

Like I had fun deciphering it

About the same as Carte

[winged belfry]

I mean, yeah, I'be read it, just forgot about basic part

[torn tapir]

Ah

Again she's just a premium bait unit imo

Make your own opinions

[winged belfry]

I was wondering about sanhua replacement outside of fusion teams

[torn tapir]

Uhh

Don't.

[winged belfry]

I mean yeah

She'd be a waifu pull

but then again, I haven't struggled with endgame in since like November

Now question is, do try to get her now, or do I see what is Galbrena will be

[neat robin]

Galbrena is far away unless you’re pulling in 2.5/6 too

[knotty fiber]

Not quite

I pull her and use both her + Sanhua for camel

S6 rot makes use of both

Screw SK

[winged belfry]

Who's S6 there?

[knotty fiber]

Camel

[winged belfry]

oh

[knotty fiber]

Much longer rot than s0

[winged belfry]

yeah, I know

[knotty fiber]

So SK's fieldtime is gonna kill it

[winged belfry]

I think for that you'd need field extension from SK S1

[knotty fiber]

Her concerto recovery is still quite ass

S1 or not

[winged belfry]

I mean yeah

still I don't think I'd feel comfortable playing Camy without a healer vs some matchups

[neat robin]

At s6 I’m pretty sure she does enough dmg you dont get hurt enough to needs heals

[winged belfry]

That's still somewhat matchup dependent

I wouldn't do it vs Inferno Rider or Sentry Robot

[torn tapir]

Pull Lupa she's waifu

Wait for Chisa

[winged belfry]

I also want Iuno

Arguably Iuno is the biggest priority

[torn tapir]

How many pulls do you have saved

[winged belfry]

Let me count

145 + 40 pity

And I haven't touched the new events yet

So I think there are like 20 pulls there

[neat robin]

I went to 75 on my lost 5050

I really just wanna see how augusta plays

[lucid pebble]

So I luccsacc’d into S2R1

How do I play Bront?

[neat robin]

Ult , skill (or jump if on cooldown) hold attack x3 then you should have anchor
And repeat

[abstract ocean]

wait i forgot, who comes after phrolova? was it augusta?

[outer jetty]

supposedly Augusta

[lucid pebble]

Can I swap to Changli at any time or do I have to stick on bront the whole time?

[neat robin]

Nah but you only have 12s of his enhanced stats after ult, you can quickswap between midairs

Brants forte will end the stat boost and its usually just enough to get full concerto from lib -> forte if you’re using his outro to buff changli

[rotund drum]

this story chapter is kinda funny if you skip all of it because its just lupa throwing spears at robots and you have no idea why

[torn tapir]

Since when is Dirge fusion resistant

This battle legit took like 5 minutes

I shoulda read the tutorial

[knotty fiber]

Since forever?

lmao

It's a fusion enemy

[terse oak]

Might have to take that event for completing the final piece on the "Glory" event (progression)

-# the lv125 lyriad crab echo elite boss

[torn tapir]

I got gaslit into betting every single pull on my account that he was spectro

28k asterite for the worst s1 in the game

And I lost the 50/50

I can't tell who's stupider, the devs for making bro fusion res, or me for wasting my chance at a 50k asterite screenshot

[knotty fiber]

If at this point you still think kuro sets elements based on appearance/color theme then you're kinda stupid

In short: the latter

[neat robin]

I got the other lupa instead

[abstract ocean]

every character seems fun to play

just let me level my data bank already bru

[tawdry pagoda]

I didn't like lupa gameplay

Other than

https://tenor.com/view/aki-chainsaw-man-gif-27647022

[opaque flume]

I’m gonna continue ignoring fire until we get new charactwrs

I realized that even tho lupa is cool I don’t have teams for her

[tawdry pagoda]

I think i will go full on spectro

I like spectro chars

[opaque flume]

Ya I got feebs zani shorekeeper

For spectro rn

[tawdry pagoda]

I need sk

I wasn't playing the game back then

And didn't pull because of zani

[opaque flume]

She just reran

Unless I’m tweaking

[tawdry pagoda]

Yes i was waiting for zani

Didn't pull her

[opaque flume]

They give you enough pulls to pull for almost everyone

Ngl

If you don’t get cons

[rotund drum]

not if you lose 50/50 or are a nonwhale

you get enough for 1 guarantee per update usually iirc

[neat robin]

They changed him to aero+lib instead of aero+glacio

[neat robin]

Also did they nerf being able to double jump & fly?
Its been way harder to do this patch

[knotty fiber]

Kerasaur has always been aero lib

You're mistaking with kelpie

[neat robin]

Ah

[neat robin]

Hmm anyone have s0 lupa changli test
I found one 18s toa clear with s3 brant but idk what the only two sequences were
S1 lupa I think

And the s6 changli one obvs not helping

[tawdry pagoda]

I didn't know

I got 8 5* that patch

[rotund drum]

lupa doesnt float that much when she plunges so that might be it

works fine with most other chars who can do it easily

i.e. carty

[neat robin]

I dont own lupa

Cia and brant are stuggling to get flight its so annoying

[rotund drum]

cia flies pretty easily but you have to do both hits of her air combo before she rises

dunno about brant

[knotty fiber]

I don't play Brant so idk

But ciaccona is of the harder char to do it

lol

Not a nerf

She has to do 2 MA to bounce up

[neat robin]

Ok I’m not skill issuing then
I just picked a bad char

[rotund drum]

its just because she has an air combo and not a plunge

the plunge isnt till second hit

she rises a lot on it though so its easy to get to fly height with it

[terse oak]

Men, I only see Lupa's sig using it while in mid-air, the rest is her spear appeared in every move.

[burnt shoal]

woa carthethiya in ciaconna ultimate

[abstract ocean]

both baddies

[vapid river]

@knotty fiber @neat robin 😭

this is wild

ope nvm

[neat robin]

?

[vapid river]

i just realized the username has a bypass

it's a video of gathering wives

but there's bypass in the username

apologies

[neat robin]

I think I want lupa

[vapid river]

brother

twitter is so lame

😭

i can't even just yoink the video url w/o the account name being blasted

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ehJtzeEhd/?spm_id_from=333.1387.homepage.video_card.click
@knotty fiber @neat robin i found the original

Tide kiss white yarn" and you into the wedding hall (song tide flower wedding PV)

that's the cn in the title

according to google tl

i'm guessing this is fan made though

some people are wild

[neat robin]

Bought lupa idc

After quest and playing with her. Might not be the strongest s0 but I like her

[rotund drum]

shes good for pyro coverage

either acts as the pyro dps or works with brant/changli for existing pyro comps

not like there's any other options really

[neat robin]

Yeah I have s2r1 brant s0 changli s0 lupa fusion team now

I’ll try and get lupa sig might have to wait til her rerun

Maybe

The standard doesnt have crit but its atk, er, lib% all stuff she needs

Got her to lv7 talents, I’ll test toa in a bit

[rotund drum]

i literally couldnt clear the perma tower until her since it favors pyro/electro and half the bosses have spectro res on top of that

she was fine as a solo dps though

[neat robin]

Sucks for you ig

I used hsi camy and jiyan/xy teams in the perma tower

Been done since 1.4

[rotund drum]

i used carlotta and dps feeb for it i think

it was the third tower that was sus

i tried it once with zani but it still wasnt enough so i just gave up on it

decided to try it with mdps lupa and it was ez clear

[neat robin]

Yeah there we go

I dont think id want to do that with s0 brant tho

did that without the stage buff and had more than enough time

[knotty fiber]

bold of you to think I'm interested in this kinda shit

[vapid river]

it's wives in wedding dresses thought you might like some of them

[knotty fiber]

I like the characters themselves but never to the extend of considering them "waifu"
and I like character x character not character x rover

[neat robin]

I liked seeing thyia & lupa in this half’s quest
It would be nice to see kuro keep having people interact without rover in the scene

[knotty fiber]

That

And I'm glad that this 2.4 story is not too centered to Rover

Thy and Lupa had bigger shares in the story

[abstract ocean]

for jiyans three piece should i go double aero?

[neat robin]

Yes

[abstract ocean]

wait phoebe is lowkey goated

is she a general support? like a general damage buffer?

[knotty fiber]

Nope

Very specific comp

[tawdry pagoda]

She is applying dot for zani

And cartethyia

For now

[abstract ocean]

i see

ill pull for her anyway

im getting ahead of my self

carlotta is defo number 1

[neat robin]

Phoebe can be main dps with her yellow forte
Or support for zani with her blue forte

[rotund drum]

i just call it the black forte and the white forte

dunno which is yellow or blue

[neat robin]

???

Youre colourblind right?

Full forte:
hold basic - yellow
hold skill - blue

[neat robin]

Ok I’m loving lupa. She was worth it

Super fun bouncing around, I just need to figure out what the rot is supposed to be

[opaque flume]

I’m using encore lupa changli

[placid holly]

https://youtu.be/tOC5rdiUSH4

s0r1 lupa
s0r1 brant
s0r1 changli
~14s clear of toa 3-4
edit: found a 1s faster one

[warped willow]

the build review took longer

im convinced of it i have skill issue

[abstract ocean]

i heard cantarella returns after phrolova

and she is a must pull for provolone

[knotty fiber]

Kind of

The amount of echo skills she can use will boost phrolova's dmg output significantly

Probably not to the Zani-pheeb level of dependency but it's significant

Unless S6

[abstract ocean]

good thing im guaranteed for phro

maybe ill get her weapon and pray for canta

second half is roccia and brant iirc

[knotty fiber]

2nd half is jellyfish and brant

[abstract ocean]

ahh i see

i got it mixed up

[burnt shoal]

rip my zani phoebe jinhsi

[burnt shoal]

woa so close

(just pretend encore is jinhsi but fusion)

[spice finch]

Do we have new map expansion next patch? Coz I havent started septimont

[lucid pebble]

Is Provolone’s new echo set the first 3-piece?

[lyric fjord]

No

[tawdry pagoda]

https://i.imgur.com/36PVyeC.png

why i cant find him

[delicate skiff]

Did You do the main quest?

[neat robin]

[tawdry pagoda]

||the one where cartethyia, rover and lupa go to light hand holding?||

Or quest for that event

[delicate skiff]

||Shadow of Glory ||

[tawdry pagoda]

Idk i quit game will look today

Is it related to that

If you mean main story quest line yes i did

[delicate skiff]

When You get to the Apex stage of the TCG, You need to complete that first

[tawdry pagoda]

Ah i will look into it tomorrow ty

[tawdry pagoda]

Is this from rusty lake series

Or just random crow with suit

[delicate skiff]

It is

[tawdry pagoda]

Unlucky

[delicate skiff]

I mean, from the series

[tawdry pagoda]

Ah

Was good series

I wish i could have forget and play it again

[delicate skiff]

I never played but I'm considering doing so

After I finish other games

[tawdry pagoda]

Indie game but better than most of the high budget puzzle games

[delicate skiff]

A lot of indie games are truly great

[tawdry pagoda]

Indie games are focused on ideas not the atmosphere

But it felt so good to me, maybe because of the time i played it

But still one of the best series I have played

Won't advice assassin's creed series or witcher series to everyone but will advice it to people who are interested in a bit of a mystery

[knotty fiber]

this is so ass

why does crit rate have to be max and cdmg has to be min

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

my other piece also has 9.9%

capping crit rate for real

[eager geode]

How bad is 4-4-1-1-1 on phrolova with her own weapon? She gets a lot of %damage already right?

[knotty fiber]

Not her main dmg source

Main dmg source is echo skill dmg

She gets 35% from 3/3 and that's it

Plus, she has a crit surplus

High crit bonus in her own forte

[eager geode]

35 +10 havoc from Set, 32 reso and 32 Echo from weapon, and cantarella outro buffs. But havoc 3cost probably better because of her stacking crit dmg already

[knotty fiber]

What's reso?

Weapon gives amp not dmg

Jellyfish's outro doesn't give any echo skill dmg bonus

Only havoc and skill dmg amp

I forgor she also got 20% echo skill dmg from hecate

[eager geode]

Sry reso skill dmg from weapon. Scarlet Coda is a big portion of her dmg so its important

[knotty fiber]

I'm asking my friend for the dmg distribution

[eager geode]

Its 2k+ mv at S0 and 4k+ If max stacked at s2 iirc

[knotty fiber]

It's not only scarlet coda that is strong

Both skill dmg

[burnt shoal]

weekly boss so hard

[neat robin]

. You’re using aero vs fleur

Making it harder by yourself

[rapid dew]

verina doing almost nothing too

[tawdry pagoda]

She is trying her best

[neat robin]

Apparently you can do whimwa 11 before the earlier floors???

[neat robin]

Why are there so many questions about movies & series in this new survey

[burnt shoal]

maybe wuwa is a getting a movie

/s

[indigo nova]

Do we know what weapons augusta and Iuno use?

[delicate skiff]

(Take it with a grain of salt ofc)

[indigo nova]

Tytyy, I just want to spend my waveplate somewhere lol

Whimpering wastes is probably my fav mode

I actually get hyped when it resets

[warped willow]

I feel poor

[neat robin]

S6 feels so … too much

I thought I wanted one but by s2-3 these dps are so strong already

[warped willow]

S6 shorekeeper here I come

[indigo nova]

S0 is alrdy enough for me

[torn tapir]

This mode fluctuates from being the best endgame mode to the worst endgame and it's kinda crazy

Who do I run for WhiWa 💔

[knotty fiber]

don't know whose idea it was to buff the new whimwa

[torn tapir]

Deadahh

If we get the wuwa anime before genshin...

[knotty fiber]

by buff I mean buffing the enemies

but it was terrible

[torn tapir]

Hp inflation?

Or damage reduction

Same thing basically...

[knotty fiber]

same shit

one thing I know

[torn tapir]

💔

What did they do

[knotty fiber]

I got 40% less score

lmao

I might be skill issuing at some part

[torn tapir]

I got a 8k last rot

[knotty fiber]

but it never gets too terrible to straight up lose 40% score

[torn tapir]

I can't break 4k

This rotation

[knotty fiber]

camel is as good as useless this time

buff too specific

forced verina yet she can't do much shit either

cuz of how verina's coord works

wait

more like

cantarella lmao

[torn tapir]

As a Canterella owner

I'm appalled

At how garbage verina's cord is

[knotty fiber]

it's not even about the dmg

her coord is only activated when hitting enemies inflicted by the photosynthesis mark which is applied by lib

when they die it's gone and she can't coord

[neat robin]

1.0 problems

Same issue with yinlin forte

[full sundial]

does wuwa have an item similar to Condensed Resin of Genshin?

[knotty fiber]

no

[delicate skiff]

It's inbuilt in domains

You can either use normal amount or x2

[knotty fiber]

they probably want condensed resin to save

but there's no point in that

[delicate skiff]

Ach, in that sense

[knotty fiber]

there's no schedule farming in wuwa

[delicate skiff]

Yup

And there is reserve too

[knotty fiber]

unless you are busy or too lazy to play in a day

reminds me

genshit didn't have reserve last time I checked

(5.3 iirc)

[full sundial]

ya :c

how about for like crafting/synthesis where in Genshin there are characters that has 10% chance to double the materials u get or 25% chance to return the base material used. Does that exist in WuWa too?

[knotty fiber]

no

[full sundial]

okay thanks!

[knotty fiber]

because mats are already easy to farm here

there's a week of x2 mats of choice

and a week of x2 "artifact"

every patch

you can choose to farm "leyline" or "talent" during the x2 mats

and you can farm whichever as well

it's not jenxin where you'd need that 10% gacha

[full sundial]

aight I just turned lvl 60 in WuWa and finally lvl 90 Yinlin and lvl 8 talents

I just need a new setter which is empyrean cuz my old one (built last 1.0) is still Void Thunder lol

all with sht subs

[knotty fiber]

there should be a x2 mat event next week btw

cuz last week of the patch

[knotty fiber]

well empyrean is kinda eh

only a high invested sdps can use it

and it's still not better than moonlit

[full sundial]

should I use moonlit?

[knotty fiber]

[full sundial]

aight

[knotty fiber]

moonlit is the general best set for sdps

unless your dps is cartethyia

kek

[full sundial]

aight thanks!

[neat robin]

When in doubt
If heals- rejuv with fallacy
Support/supdps- moonlit with heron

Theres other niche sets
-gusts only on erosion applier aka Cia,
-mono fusion team (Lupa bis)

[full sundial]

I'm using the bell thingy for my verina atm

I just came back to WuWa a week ago, I don't even know what fallacy gives. one moment

[neat robin]

Fallacy is unconditional & can be used midair
Bell buff disappears if you’re hit 3x

Fallacy atk & energy, bell dmg & reduction iirc

[knotty fiber]

thing to take note is fallacy gives atk% which is more likely to be diluted than bellborne's dmg%

[neat robin]

Theres more sources of dmg%

[knotty fiber]

atk is, more likely than not, more diluted than dmg% even with ele x2

the only exception I can think of right now is Carlotta

[neat robin]

Moonlit, 2pc/5pc set bonuses, most sigs are dmg%

[knotty fiber]

moonlit 5/5 is atk

[neat robin]

Well ig it depends on subs. Ive had bad luck on atk% subs 🤔

[knotty fiber]

rejuv 5/5 is atk

lmao

[neat robin]

The dps sets are basically all dmg% until recent ones

And the new ones still are dmg% just with crit

[knotty fiber]

new chars have been having more spread out dmg distribution

if a sig has dmg bonus, it's either not 48% or it's only a type

for carlotta and ones before her, yeah sig is a big deal in dmg bonus

after her, not quite

Zani also doesn't have dmg bonus

Phrolova has dmg bonus but it's only for one type and she has 2 distinct main dmg types

[neat robin]

Radiance set gives dmg bonus

[knotty fiber]

yeah, and it's still not that big

she doesn't have any in sig

that is my point

[neat robin]

Yes thats 1 char

Then we’re back to dmg% types in thyia lupa phro

[knotty fiber]

Phrolova has atk buff

[neat robin]

does the dmg amp part of thyia sig work with dmg% bonus in 3cost/sets ?

[knotty fiber]

(new beta patch)

and as I just fucking said earlier

[knotty fiber]

dmg bonus for skill dmg and AMP for echo dmg

[neat robin]

I havent kept up with phro last time it was crit and dmg

Wheres the atk added?

[knotty fiber]

then you haven't read it properly

this is beta patch note

not implemented yet

[neat robin]

Then I havent read it at all tf

I’m just tracking whats already being tested

[knotty fiber]

ATK is increased by 12%. Within 12s after dealing Echo Skill DMG, gain 32% Resonance Skill DMG Bonus and 32% Echo Skill DMG Amplification, and ignore 8% of the target's DEF when dealing damage.

[neat robin]

I dont plan on getting her, idc what they change

[knotty fiber]

and you said like you're right

you even brought cartethyia up

what does she use?

HP

fallacy for an HP character

[neat robin]

She just doesnt have a 3rd set lets be real

That slot is quickswap or a 2pc (and heron is better)

[full sundial]

do we have info of what her echo set will be?

I actually came back just because of her lol

[neat robin]

Phro gets a new mini set

[knotty fiber]

does not change the fact that it's still dmg bonus

[neat robin]

I thinj?

[full sundial]

I see

[knotty fiber]

she uses a new set that has 3pcs

[neat robin]

Then you take heron over bell any day
Shes not using 5pc moonlit and rejuv in her team

[knotty fiber]

so you can use 2pcs of either eclipse or midnight veil or lingering tunes

[knotty fiber]

that's for a different discussion

now we're talking about atk vs dmg bonus

[full sundial]

aight

[knotty fiber]

[knotty fiber]

2.5 might be tough then

on 2nd half you will wanna pull for cantarella

[full sundial]

yes

[knotty fiber]

she loses a big chunk of her dmg without cantarella

[full sundial]

I'm trying my best to get astrites as much as possible before Canta gets released

[knotty fiber]

for someone who doesn't like the jellyfish like me

[full sundial]

I'm already guaranteed for Phrolova and have enough, but I don't have enough astrites for Cantarella assuming I will lose 50/50

[neat robin]

Just s6 phro easy

No jelly needed

Ive been (probably stupidly) putting pulls into lupa sig but I should prob just wait for next dps I pull

s0r0 changli lupa is already fine

[knotty fiber]

s6 or not, without the jellyfish she loses a big chunk of dmg

[full sundial]

why? is it solely because of Canta's outro?

[knotty fiber]

S6 used to not

it used to be better when she's onfield

[neat robin]

I do like phro & canta both have partial onfield and off field time

[knotty fiber]

but they changed it so that it's still dependent on the jellyfish

lmao

[knotty fiber]

outro is one thing

her skill dmg takes up almost half of the dmg distribution

and more than half if you don't have cantarella

[neat robin]

Echo dmg is like. Literally the echo, right
For the most part?

[knotty fiber]

phrolova's off field mode only nukes when a character off field uses an echo skill

each skill only counts once

[neat robin]

Tho canta jellies do echo dmg and coord dmg?

[knotty fiber]

a normal character has only 1 skill

rococo has 2

cantarella has fucking 4

[neat robin]

Thats each time the skill icon changes?

I just got confused over her kit and didnt like the trial. So I skipped

[full sundial]

gosh

[knotty fiber]

+1 echo skill from echo slot

[neat robin]

Her echos are so cursed I hate it

Double crit is non existant

[full sundial]

if I don't have Canta+Roccia yet, what would be her next 2 best teammates?

I do have Danjin at lvl 80 at the moment

[knotty fiber]

Shorekeeper danjin ig

[knotty fiber]

Phrolova tldr:

Hecate dmg reduced to around 0.6 of original dmg

buffed sequences except S6

[terse oak]

Oh, special broadcast for v2.5 next Friday.

[lyric fjord]

Doesnt the phrolova change makes her not need roccia at all? Since she was there for one (1) additional echo skill only, buffing a sub dps and giving a small atk buff which is now super diluted?

[knotty fiber]

Rococo is there mainly for the loop

[knotty fiber]

The atk never mattered much in the first place

It's her personal dmg buffed by Phrolova, additional echo cast and cantarella amp

SK is still weaker than Rococo

Cuz crit is extremely diluted for phrolova

As well as atk

[full sundial]

dont have SK

I only have Yinlin as my limited char atm

then Cal Verina Encore Jianxin for standard 5*

[warped willow]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DLpZs3ZPCGX/

Mockermay (@mockermay)

Go to Phrolova's Domain Easily #lupa #鸣潮 #wuwa #phoebe #wutheringwaves #septimont #bug #mockermay #phrolova

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WAVEPLATELESS BEHAVIOUR

[lament shuttle]

How in the hell

[knotty fiber]

:D

[wheat moon]

nice

[tawdry pagoda]

Sorry you saw this side of him

[warped willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061034680742322206/1394199055524958309/IMG_8295.jpg?ex=6875f08d&is=68749f0d&hm=032255cdf2d1cf5b1dcab698c8ac4bf6039431314b1669bdcdb35534f81a9576&

[terse oak]

Hmmm

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

One more and he’ll have dps like a s0 carla

[warped willow]

Shorekeper

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-shorekeeper-cheeks-squeeze-squishy-gif-603873240031364878

[tawdry pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/shore-keeper-gif-15017039048533006888

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/femrover-rover-wuthering-waves-chibi-rover-chibi-femrover-gif-11192055818435663506

[neat robin]

Sorry to interrupt the sk chain, but cia is done (dont question the 0 lib rolls)

[tawdry pagoda]

Why 0 lib

[quasi sable]

0 lib rolls? Go roll again

[lyric fjord]

is america server dying for you guys too?

i got fluctuating ping over 240 instead of a stable 25

[warped willow]

ouuuugh im phrolovaing it

[sweet coral]

Finally playable Lingyang

[knotty fiber]

Funny you think he's playable just because he's s6

[sweet coral]

I mean if you put in the effort

[burnt shoal]

omg so close

[lucid pebble]

Is phrolover rectifier?

[lyric fjord]

Yes

Its why you probably heard the cries of stringmaster owners all around, since she was re-balanced to be significantly worse with it than before

[lucid pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1387721097902035016/os35AKHEX6IXJAfoAmAQx4mFufBhuqyNAD0Cgz.gif

The stringmaster stays on Yinlin (for segs)

[spice finch]

Do we have new area next patch?

[winged belfry]

There's a new area next patch

[sweet coral]

Codes?

[delicate skiff]

ILLUSIONHAUNTS
DREAMSPERSIST
THISISFINALE

[sweet coral]

Thanks

[neat robin]

How cope is this windward jiyan with welkin cia team

Instead of gale with moon mort

[knotty fiber]

if you know what you're doing with cocaine

then no not a cope

he's already strong with cocaine

[neat robin]

I’m making the assumption this cia has her sig
Cuz otherwise you lose all morts dmg% & atk buffs only for some crit 5pc

I think its no more than a s2 jiyan
Only went from 50 to 80 cr with the 5pc & sk buffs

[full sundial]

how do I pass through this?

[neat robin]

That was so long ago
Dont you make portals in the walls or something

[lyric fjord]

how do we modulate 3 cost echoes in the tcg gamemode? If we can't, then how do we activate 3 cost's passives?

[lyric fjord]

nvm i must have misread something, i don't think any 3 cost have passives

[warped willow]

Amazing

https://x.com/narushio_wuwa/status/1946424155756507305?s=61

Narushio (@Narushio_wuwa)

Phrolova | Resonance Evaluation Report
#WutheringWaves #WuWa #鳴潮 #Phrolova

X · Jul 19, 2025, 4:17 AM

[burnt shoal]

when phrolova release

[neat robin]

About 3.5 days

[warped willow]

Dying to get phro already

[rotund drum]

hopefully phro saves whatever she is

havent looked at her kit

[neat robin]

Puppetmaster and the puppet is hecate

[warped willow]

https://x.com/tancohurn/status/1946983563687292942?s=61

ngu hèn (@tancohurn)

X · Jul 20, 2025, 5:20 PM

[warped willow]

WTF !

[lyric fjord]

Shit, means less time to save for augusta

[spice finch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/rEJ2Vl47Wb

[neat robin]

Oh thats nice

Much better than the drip

[spice finch]

Hoping she is fusion dps

[neat robin]

I’m not complaining cuz id much rather have strong (atk based) enemies that hp inflation but since when can toa 4th floor bosses oneshot 20k hp

I dont play with dmg numbers but my cia died from full hp while using her hold forte

[lyric fjord]

Never been one shot in toa
Will try tonight and tell

[lyric fjord]

damn you're right, the beringal grab instakilled my carlotta, never seen this before in toa

[rotund drum]

"we're balancing the game around zani and carty now oh you didnt get them GUESS YOU SHOULDA WHALED"

[knotty fiber]

Since forever

Aix was able to OHKO you way back during 1.1

[knotty fiber]

holy shit ass mechanic

obligated jiyan clear

could have been better

but I can't be bothered to play the game now let alone balding crit

[sweet coral]

God damn she old

[rapid dew]

many things oneshot

fractisidus guy grabs u and deals like 90% of normal char HP

[warped willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061034680742322206/1397171831844110346/a896e7a8-05d9-4fa8-9361-412bfb0b77be.png?ex=6880c12a&is=687f6faa&hm=b9686cc82e23561aa76081a11f289fa332f7e25f63916b41f1dacbc4fa082e73&

less this patch

[warped willow]

eng

[lament shuttle]

It’s pretty low I feel

[opaque flume]

Is it a short patch or smth

Oh ya 35 day update

[knotty fiber]

Too little even for a short patch

[opaque flume]

True

[neat robin]

I’m ngl zani is a big regret
Idc what she looks like. Never use her

Need to trust myself next time I do a trial and say the gameplay feels shit

[rapid dew]

her gameplay feels amazing

when u can use her

being so lib restricted is a crime

[neat robin]

Benefit of the doubt, I might be doing a bad rot

But shes just so slowwww

[opaque flume]

In Phoebe sk dani

Zani

You can spam ult cause er isn’t an issue

And stacks aren’t an issue cause Phoebe

My goat

[neat robin]

Does phoebe do anything off field in zanis team
I swear I only get two basic chains done & zanis got no forte left

[spice finch]

I learned my lesson in genshin to not pull characters impulsively

[opaque flume]

If ur at max forte I usually get 3, or a couple parroes

During ult

[spice finch]

So far, i only have camellya carlotta and carte as dps (inc xyao)

[opaque flume]

But like ur doing 100k per hit

[neat robin]

3?

[opaque flume]

3 basic chains with the last smash

[neat robin]

I couldnt even use zani 2nd floor hazard this time
Couldnt do enough damage

[opaque flume]

On zani

[neat robin]

2 basic chains with max forte

[opaque flume]

I’ll try but

[neat robin]

Do I swap back to phoeb

[opaque flume]

I will prolly do it easily

At work rn I’ll do it tn

[neat robin]

Ok lemme record this I’m pretty sure its only 2 basics tho

Need dmg numbers back on I think

Yeah 2 chains & her dmg is ass

Tf you getting 100k basics from😭
Mines 2.4k atk, 50/320 crit before buffs

[neat robin]

I keep forgetting phro has same va as sonetto

And update is tomorrow night

[rotund drum]

hopefully the update saves wuwa

this update was a whole lot of nothing

[neat robin]

Try a different ragebait next time

[ashen gulch]

Taking in count I dont have neither Roccia nor Cantarella I do have camellya and my dream is to make changli bis so kinda thinking on pulling brant now, and lupa/changli in reruns, but is phrolove like crazy good like must pull?

[rotund drum]

she seems ok

her rotation is potentially a lot of damage

and shes like havoc dps #50 at this point

[ashen gulch]

So if I have camellya is there like a real reason to pull for her aside that if I like her?

Or I could in fact start pulling for mono fusion team

[ashen gulch]

oh and how important are canta and roccia?

[rotund drum]

not as bad as zani or carty without their supports i think

[knotty fiber]

canta: very

rococo: not really, replaceable with Jinhsi or SK

though SK's value is considerably lower in this comp compared to other comps

especially when you have good crit rolls

[ashen gulch]

Jinshi? What is phrolove rol jaja

[knotty fiber]

Jinhsi because of canta

if you don't have canta and only plan on rolling S0 Phrolova

just give up

that's how bad it is

[ashen gulch]

I mean, I would need to pull phrolove + weapon and canta + weapon (I know weapons are not needed it just idk I feel uncomfortable having a 5* without their weapon) and Im not planning to spend this patch so maybe starting to pull for mono fusion with brant + weapon is a better idea?

[knotty fiber]

you want weapon for phrolova

for canta not quite

[ashen gulch]

I would pull canta only if I see Phrolova and I get like in total love with her gameplay, if not I could pull her later for collection I guess, I have came as havoc dps already

[rotund drum]

cantarella procs her stand attacks a few more times i think

[knotty fiber]

she's there for the optimization

[rotund drum]

which gives her nuke a fair bit more multiplier as well

[knotty fiber]

her dmg is not comparable

[rotund drum]

riccia is just amp i think

[ashen gulch]

Then I would need phrolova + weapon and pray to win canta 50/50 lol, and again I would feel weird without her weapon

[knotty fiber]

canta allows phrolova to function smoothly + dmg amp

without cantarella

you lose like what

40~50% dmg?

[ashen gulch]

Ill see if I absolutely love phrolova, if not Ill skip her for now, pull brant + weapon and wait for lupa and changli

[knotty fiber]

like holy shit it's stupid

the kit is stupid

[ashen gulch]

cause I think mono fusion is very cool to play tbh

and lost my 50/50 for lupa :c

[rotund drum]

cant is +3 stand attacks which are around 300% each and give +240% mult on her big nuke

which is around another 2k% which sounds like a lot but she's already doing like 7k% per rot

[ashen gulch]

in terms of how good she is, like lets say Phrolova Canta compared to Camellya Sanhua?

[knotty fiber]

depends on where you use them

in whimwa

no

[rotund drum]

also cants's outro doesnt stack with roccia's i think

[knotty fiber]

cameme is still almost unbeatable in whimwa

[ashen gulch]

damn

I think maybe I just pull for the hot phoenix then

[rotund drum]

roccia is unbeatable*

i dont even use cammy in whimwa

i just throw roccia into other comps

[knotty fiber]

🚮

[rotund drum]

the succ is super dumb

[knotty fiber]

the suck is meh

[neat robin]

Mono fusion is fun yes

Realistically changli is the first to be kicked out tho

Lupa buffs
Brant sustain & dmg
+Dps

[rotund drum]

shes good until we get a better dps who matches lupa's outro

[neat robin]

?

Lupa outro buffs brant

[rotund drum]

they literally designed the outros to chain into each other so you cant replace them

lupa doesnt buff brant

[neat robin]

Or you just quickswap them

And ignore outros

[rotund drum]

the lupa comp doesnt quickswap anymore iirc

you just go for outros since thats where lupa's damage comes from

[neat robin]

Tf are you talking about

Lupa outro is fusion and basic

Thats for brant

[rotund drum]

right mb its brant who doesnt buff lupa

lupa > brant > changli

[ashen gulch]

Changli buffs lupa

And Brant buffs Changli

[rotund drum]

yeah and brant buffs changli

its literally a buff chain lol

[ashen gulch]

I wan to get them so bad and lupa is sooo cool

[rotund drum]

you have to have all three to make it work

[neat robin]

When will people realize quickswap doesnt need outros like that

[ashen gulch]

Yeah but Changli will rerun at some point haha

[rotund drum]

honestly i suspect kusogames just makes these kits to bandaid fix old chars that were doa

phrolova is obviously a bandaid fix to make cantarella relevant

[ashen gulch]

Which are good sequences for each character? Like Changli, Brant and Lupa

[neat robin]

Brant s2 makes him a big dps

Changli and lupa are irrelevant. s0 with standard 5* weapons

Brant s2r1 and easy

[ashen gulch]

But still like if I love them which sequence is "worth" getting

[rotund drum]

s2r1 for a dude sounds like meta tryharding way too hard

[ashen gulch]

Cause yeah tbh I want Brant but to make Lupa and Changli work better jajaj

[rotund drum]

spending on cons for a char you dont even like just to get better numbers is a recipe for regret

if you're actually gay for brant that's fine i guess

best case is the char you like scales well with cons so you whale and are happy

mid case is the char isnt very good but you got your waifu anyway

worst case is whaling purely for numbers

[ashen gulch]

But that's why I'm asking for the worth sequences for Changli and Lupa as well even if they are not as good as Brant ones

[neat robin]

Lupa sig buffs team (24% fusion)
Lupa s2 buffs team (20% fusion)
Lupa s3 adds some ignore fusion res
Changli dupes… eh

[ashen gulch]

I mean I did got my carthy s3

0 regrets

She is awesome

[ashen gulch]

Noooo my favorite :( and I want her skin as well

[neat robin]

You can kinda see from their calcs
Early eidolons kinda mid

Her s2 gives cr so its easier to build ig

[opaque flume]

Why are the updates on Wednesday

Now

Strange

[knotty fiber]

it's normally wed for western

[opaque flume]

Fr?

[knotty fiber]

not-wed is the weird case

[opaque flume]

Damn

[ashen gulch]

damn true...

[opaque flume]

wtf mai sakurajima is here

Fake catofficial fr

[ashen gulch]

I guess S2 is like the better one from early eidolons

[neat robin]

If you have limited pulls
Lupa sig buffs slightly more than her s2
Or if you have all the pulls/wallet, s3 lupa is where you wanna go

[ashen gulch]

For now

[opaque flume]

No way Wuwa got cancelled in kr?

[ashen gulch]

Ill grab brant with weapon

[opaque flume]

Lmao

[ashen gulch]

and wait for reruns I guess

[ashen gulch]

what does this means?

[opaque flume]

Im catofficial and i used to have a mai sakurajima pfp in the ancient times of wfp

2 years ago

Well

Ya ig

Damn its been a while

[ashen gulch]

ohhh

I changed my nick not long ago

[neat robin]

I’m running s2r1 brant, s0 standard lupa & changli
Its good already. Lupa is the shittiest build too (75/190)

[ashen gulch]

was Hoshino before

but idk

Mai just better fr

[opaque flume]

Im never getting Brant my lupa will just stay useless

[neat robin]

Pull brant

[opaque flume]

Nah

Im gonna pull a useless phro

Before Brant lmao

[ashen gulch]

JAJAJAJA I was about too

Ill see if I resist 3 more weeks without pulling

Tho my brant will be useless until I get lupa

[neat robin]

Tf you mean

Yall widen the brains

Lotta brant quickswap
Brant sanhua sk
Monofusion

Lotta brant changli was my main team before lupa lol
Tbf s2 brant yes but his outro buffs lotta, just quickswap spam inbetween charging outros

[ashen gulch]

I guess yeah I can use Brand Sanhua SK

I need like

a lot of SK in my account

everybody wants her

maybe carthy doesnt need her but I still use her

[opaque flume]

Brant is really good

But

I don’t want him

So

[pure minnow]

For phrolova, is there any early sequence that would help her for a main dps play style?

[rapid dew]

you hold e at the start after burst

or parry

gives u one nightfall

then 2 combos

[forest dome]

should i get brant for lupa/changli team or its fine without him

[robust axle]

Wtf what are you doing here

[forest dome]

wdym smh

[limber imp]

Yeah he’s its strongest member

And he’s also the sustain

Healing and shielding

[forest dome]

with no sig?

idt i can get his sig

[ashen gulch]

tbh now that I see again phrolova convene animation, it convinced me Ill get her and do my best to get her team

and if by some miracle im able to get roccia as well that would be nice since it would work for both came and phrolova

[neat robin]

Without sig you build standard 5* and molten iirc

There were calcs for dps brant back on his release

Oh camy sig > standard yeah
If you have hers instead

ER/ER, tidebreak 5pc and brant sig > ele/ele, molten 5pc with camy sig (nightmare rider)

[forest dome]

[vernal mason]

Can't you go tidebreaker with the er sword as well

The 4* er sword i mean

[neat robin]

Overture is just shit

Thats like for moonlit overture s0 brant as lotta support (he wont do much damage)

His molten builds without building for 250 er are better for dps brant

[warped willow]

???

why’s the pre only 8 gigs

isn’t there a whole new region

wtf,,,,

[knotty fiber]

optimized patch

starting from 2.4 the patch size has been greatly reduced

no need to download the whole fucking game again

[lucid pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1387721097902035016/os35AKHEX6IXJAfoAmAQx4mFufBhuqyNAD0Cgz.gif

[rotund drum]

meanwhile 60gb update

hopefully this isnt a maintenance begins when maintenance is over situation

[neat robin]

It never is

They’ll be done by the time they say

[outer jetty]

Oh wait it is up

[queen junco]

Hi chat is phrolova strong

[full sundial]

and Phrolova's signature RAAAAAHHH

[outer jetty]

Cool
Where is Augusta and Iuno drip

[knotty fiber]

next week

[rotund drum]

this fenrico guy is literally saint of the deep

original character do not steal

fenrico pucci

[keen jackal]

@blissful tulip back to never touching this game again

[lyric fjord]

the new area is gigantic wtf

[knotty fiber]

fuck you fenrico

just because I bully you doesn't mean you can fight back

[rotund drum]

there's literally two spots for flowers

good game

[outer jetty]

Did they reduce Ciaconna Lib song volume so much

[knotty fiber]

idk

[outer jetty]

Oh newly added

Nope they really massively reduce its volume

[full sundial]

aero rover vs danjin in Phrolova+Roccia team?

[rotund drum]

this msq

imagine wanting to pick flowers or some shit

isnt phrolova's bandage on the wrong eye in this cutscene

is she actually just a chuunibyou who's wearing it for show

oh there's a second map with more flowers

you have to do the entire msq for it though

[keen jackal]

let the girl larp

[grim grove]

Lova’s sig or Cantarella

[knotty fiber]

holy shit the new nightmare echoes system

is stupid

I wanna swear with r word

but I can't cuz this server doesn't allow it

but it's so dumb

[pure minnow]

do i have to do main quest to unlock the area with phrolova flowers ?

also nightmare hecate

[knotty fiber]

yes

[pure minnow]

wack

[knotty fiber]

forced main quest

@cobalt apex fuck

I need

help

unlock your map so I can loot the godforsaken nightmare field

[cobalt apex]

im outside

[pure minnow]

bruh i guess i will just buy the flowers from that shop and wait a week or more to upgrade her 😭

[rotund drum]

its low effort at least

can always boxblast if you want more quickly

[pure minnow]

what is that new system

[rotund drum]

there's a new tacet field that you can do for free once per day

36 mobs which drop echoes at the usual rate

its basically a dailypan for free echoes

[knotty fiber]

welp

[pure minnow]

i see

[rotund drum]

on the flip side you have to wait for reset if you dont get anything good

[knotty fiber]

nightmare field is not coop-able

great

[pure minnow]

oh cuz like normal echoes have nightmare version too now

it's not just 4 cost

oh i also need new map for the nightmare field

[rotund drum]

honestly its not that bad

its only a 3p set so you can use one of the other havoc sets for the 2p +10% bonus

so you only really need hecate and 2 1-costs

fae ignises drop as the new set now

[pure minnow]

i need the area first

[knotty fiber]

yeah it's not that bad only terrible

suddenly I'm punished for playing the god damn game

this is fucking hoyo behavior

[pure minnow]

they're forcing me to skip story at this point welp

i dont wanna catch up like 2 or 3 chapter just to collect my damn flowers 😭

[rotund drum]

yeah the flowers is the worst part honestly

you get a few right at the start but if you want to max phrolova today you have to do the entire msq

because most of them are in the zone that only unlocks after msq

[pure minnow]

yeah but im not even at the new msq yet

[warped willow]

don’t mind the forced msq but can see why it’s a problem

[keen jackal]

on a date with me

[pure minnow]

I dont want to skip the main story as i give it some interest. I wanna do it when i feel like doing it and have time to so i can enjoy it.
Feeling forced to do it sucks

Rn it's either i rush the story or i dont use phrolova

[warped willow]

Lfg 50/50 won

Only had to pull 50 for her + sig

[sweet coral]

Bruh this trial Phrolova is so ass

Girl almost have a 1:1 crit ratio

[opaque flume]

I pulled cryo phrolova

Not happy

[neat robin]

Fairly certain they locked upgrade stuff behind main quest back with shorekeeper too
Fallacy only opened after quest & I dont remember them having an early access for it 🤔

Its still not a good idea. But not new from them either

[sweet coral]

I don’t really like Phrolova’s play style that much tbh

Also that camera is so wonky

If we’re controlling Hecate the camera should’ve followed it instead

[neat robin]

Well.

(From standard)

[sweet coral]

||Fenrico gives Aero and Heavy Bous but is on the Dream set 💀||

[sweet coral]

Imagine that on Windward

[neat robin]

If you want a set that only works specifically with jiyan+cia ig

Aero heavy should be for iuno next patch

[dapper oar]

how much is canta vs phrolova's sig compared in better investment wise

[sweet coral]

Both are niche as hell

[knotty fiber]

None

You pull it for the rightful owner and that's it

[sweet coral]

If you want generalist options

The only ones are Stringmaster and Blazing Justice

[knotty fiber]

Funny thing is

[dapper oar]

i have strinmaster

[knotty fiber]

Stringmaster doesn't even work that well for Phrolova

[robust axle]

I think he means cantarella the character vs phrolova sig

[dapper oar]

yeah

[knotty fiber]

They fucked her up with crit rate overflow

[knotty fiber]

If this is the case

[dapper oar]

bcs i can get canta but i can only get her if i don't spend on phrolova sig

[sweet coral]

Canta is kinda mid

[knotty fiber]

Then the jello

[dapper oar]

its why i skipped her she had no team when she was released

unlike cia she was released far too early

[knotty fiber]

Too big dps loss and comp fluidity

[dapper oar]

alright I'll save for canta then thanks

[sweet coral]

If she was even earlier- Like- 1.1 early then it would’ve been different

[dapper oar]

true

[sweet coral]

Phrolova is kind of mid to play with

All hopes on Qiuyuan

If they DARE make him mid Ima throw hands

Also I randomly thought

Since we’re getting Brant and Roccia reruns this patch

Maybe we’ll get Camellya and Changli next patch

And uhhhh idk who could be the 4th banner, maybe Ciaccona

That is if next patch is one character only again

[rapid dew]

two

[sweet coral]

Then count Ciaccona out

I mean it kinda make sense to rerun Camellya and Changli while their supports are having theirs

[burnt shoal]

yuanwu still good for jinhsi

[neat robin]

Yuanwu doesnt need to be there with zhezhi

No verina for better buffing at least?

[burnt shoal]

yay still enough to clear

[burnt shoal]

want to try saving verina for other sides

[neat robin]

As long as yuanwu on rejuv ig its whatever

Will do the same as a 4* healer

[burnt shoal]

oh wait me messed up arti my yuanwu was only on 2 pc rejuv for some reason

going to make it 5 pc for next runs

[burnt shoal]

jinhsi zhezhi dealing so much dmg

still needed a few more tries to survive

[burnt shoal]

zani needs too much crit rng in middle floor 2 ri

rip

[indigo nova]

I finished this floor with brant jiyan sk

Dont ask me how but if it works it works fr

[rotund drum]

phrolova with her set + stringmaster actually gets way too much crit

easier to farm echoes at least

you can afford to drop two CR subs i think and still get 100%

[rapid dew]

2nd is easy asf

did it with 1min spare

1st was harder on zani

[burnt shoal]

what team

my team too burst dmg can't multiwave 2nd floor enough

overdmg first wave

[neat robin]

I used camy for hazard 2nd

[rapid dew]

sk instead of srover

srover team gets more combos

so idk

hold E nightfall into 2 nightfalls

takes all waves + hits a boss once or twice

next rot for boss

s0r1 zani s0r0 phoebe s0r1 sk

[neat robin]

I need to retry with zani .. with her proper rot lol

[burnt shoal]

don't have sk

[neat robin]

Zani vs sentry was annoying af but mech boss is easy target

[rapid dew]

srover is technically better

i just dont have him built

[neat robin]

Srover with rejuv ye. Has spec shred instead of dmg buff