・wuwa-lounge

[neat robin]

.. her sig that doesnt give crit?

[knotty fiber]

I'm like

Bitch

Cost 3 gives less than a cost 1 does

[neat robin]

3* hp sword vs uh
Crit stick 5* sword

She cant really benefit off any sword passives can she?
Camy basic% stacking
Changli atk + skill%
Eog atk

ye 3* hp sword cuz she doesnt care about the low base atk on it

[knotty fiber]

She kind of can make use of Camellya's sig

Majority of her dmg is ba

Idk about now tho

It was V1

V2 butchered her kit

[rotund drum]

does aerover only have one eidolon unlocked atm

[neat robin]

Yeah s1 r1 for him

Hopefully we get a few sequences with 2.4
Its thyia patch … at least bloodpact refines too 😭

[rotund drum]

s2 would be nice

the rest are pretty optional

not like he's doing damage anyway

[neat robin]

Id rather the 4 refinements for the sword tbh

26% aero buff at r5

[rotund drum]

its probably perma r1

it may not matter if carty doesnt get buffed next week

i already pulled for chaccone so it'd be a waste if carty is bad but if so i might just get lupa

[neat robin]

Eh no way they keep her bad

With how hyped up shes been

[edgy cobalt]

wall of worry

[rotund drum]

they got blasted pretty hard for zanigate so they might be reconsidering

[knotty fiber]

if she ends up being another 10% pre ult 90% post ult

with 2 fucking chars in one

I'll have to reconsider continue playing the game

where did the Changli and Jinhsi style go

[rotund drum]

changli and carlotta are getting sexy swimsuits at least

and you'll have plenty of time to stare at their asses cause it'll take you forever to kill anything with them

[vapid river]

i'd rather they just give us s6r5 aerover by the end of 2.4 at the latest

but i doubt that'll happen

[neat robin]

Hopefully theyve been taking in feedback for making 3.x
More male chars, less ult-based only chars
More interactions with playable chars & less with rover

[knotty fiber]

the fact that Septimont is based on colisseum and gladiators yet all 5 new chars are female

yep that ain't happening

[vapid river]

what about the leak that said they were coming out with a male 5*?

was that just a lie

[knotty fiber]

misinfo likely

[vapid river]

truly wuthering wives

[neat robin]

*3 new chars, technically

For that region anyways

Need male chars
Devs need to stop caring so much about cn complainers

1.x story would have been better if they kept the suspicion & stuff everyone had about the random mc showing up outta nowhere too

[knotty fiber]

would be real funny if we don't get any male until 3.x

[neat robin]

I do like augustus model though they did nice with it

[knotty fiber]

it would be worse than ToF

(ToF released 2 males during 2.x)

[neat robin]

I wonder (hope) we go from 2.6 straight to 3.0

[knotty fiber]

we won't

end is 2.8

[neat robin]

😔

[knotty fiber]

so 2 patches to cope that WW doesn't get worse than ToF in gender ratio

[knotty fiber]

the 4* is also a female

[neat robin]

I’m gonna skip lupa & phrolova
pulling both yuonou & augustus then hopefully I can just skip til next male

[neat robin]

Oh yeah forgot
Shes cute though, genuinely love her design

Wonder if shes gonna be another shit kit though

Augustus is missing accessories
Yuonou.. I like her

[terse oak]

"Younou" that, right?

[neat robin]

Aug left (redhead), yuonou right (blue)

The sun & moon symbols from the septimont teaser trailer

[knotty fiber]

Younuo

lmao

I doubt that's her English name tho

I know nuo = no

but not sure what you can be

[neat robin]

I always spell it wrong 😔

[vapid river]

1 male in all of 2.x 😭brant carrying so hard

[vapid river]

who tf is this side pony?

[rotund drum]

himeko and keqing

original characters do not steal

[opaque flume]

Meow

Oh wrong channel

[opaque flume]

https://tenor.com/view/brant-wuwa-brant-wuwa-wuthering-wuthering-waves-gif-2421321189941570518

[vapid river]

someone said mona

and i can kinda see it

and mav

but what is mav if not genshin himeko

[neat robin]

Buling. 4*

[terse oak]

finally a 4-star resonator

[neat robin]

Less coral

Idc unless shes quick onfield like sanhua

[terse oak]

do we know Buling's kit yet?

[neat robin]

We dont know any yet

These are prob 2.6 or later

[neat robin]

very tentatively
Augusta electro
Yuonou aero with heavy/aero outro

Idk the leakers tho
If its same dude who said canta did skill/havoc buff before her beta even started id trust
Anyone else? Ehhh too early

Itd be cool if buling is our first 4* spectro

[terse oak]

Yuonou would be a good partner for Jinzi, the Aero general

[neat robin]

Uh

[terse oak]

Jiyan. can't recall his name until I search it

[neat robin]

Ok I was gonna say

[terse oak]

if Augusta is a main-dps electro resonator, then she could pair with Yinlin.

[neat robin]

Anyways its all way too early so cant trust anything

I think with the way theyve been putting out rinacita banners
Gonna pull main dps / generic support/sustains
skip the dedicated sdps slot until rerun

[terse oak]

like Cocionna (cant recall it)

[neat robin]

Its gonna be ass if thyia really does suck after ive already spent 210 pulls for s0r1 cia
Rather make sure I enjoy the main dps first

[neat robin]

Nah like I’m pulling thyia anyways we already have her gameplay
So cia was pulled regardless

[terse oak]

hm for mono-Aero team(s)

[neat robin]

But like
Canta is 2.2. Whatever dps shes meant to buff is not
No point in pulling her (unless ya just really love her) until you know if you even like the dps char she buffs

[terse oak]

regardless, I have to get Cartethyia

-# and her weapon

[tired zodiac]

[rotund drum]

mona rudao maybe

[tired zodiac]

Mona and scara's child

[knotty fiber]

v3 is out

they buffed flerdelys form

and keep cartethyia form the same (as v2)

[lyric fjord]

looks chinese to me sorry

[indigo nova]

Buffs. Neat

[tired zodiac]

Is this lower than v1 or?

[neat robin]

Dont want us using thyia to fight 😔

[rapid dew]

good

ugly begone

[terse oak]

I'm only impressed on her goddem slashing Saber sword!

[rapid dew]

why type this way

[burnt shoal]

woa double crit

[tired zodiac]

Lowest rolls

[terse oak]

wait, could we get two same substats?

[delicate skiff]

Nope

[terse oak]

i see

[neat robin]

You can get a sub thats the same as the mainstat
Not 2 of the same subs

[dapper oar]

what should we use in the middle tower bcs wdym theyre buffing aero and electro but ciaccona cant even properly be in a team with jiyan lmao

should i just not use ciaccona and just use the old jiyan team

[neat robin]

Cia with sig & welkin can go into 3rd slot if you run sustainless

Otherwise no, cia is mostly just for phoebe rn until thyia releases

[rapid dew]

use ciaccona dps

qs idk

[neat robin]

Cia sanhua sk did surprisingly well last try, outside of sentry flying up and away from her

[dapper oar]

i used zani phoeb team

in the end

[neat robin]

I got a double crit sword
But I lose an er sub

And 120 er rn is already pushing it

70/290 isnt bad but I want that last cr sub

And like 130 er

[terse oak]

"Phoebe chubby!"

[rotund drum]

looks like its over for carty

barely got any buffs

[tired zodiac]

[indigo nova]

This mf always flies away

[vapid river]

i haven't seen my family in 18 years

this is getting ridiculous

[neat robin]

I love illusive (I wish she was main dps now tbh)

[rotund drum]

her divekick spam does ok damage

you can jump cancel the n4 and let the stand do it so you can just plunge plunge plunge

she does about 400% per rep iirc

[neat robin]

Sanhua kinda nuked it first

[knotty fiber]

The best thing about cartethyia at this point is that I don't have to farm cost 3

[lyric fjord]

farming 3 different 1 costs will mean a lot of overworld farming

she better be good at that

[rapid dew]

thats bad thing

you can just do tacet fields later on or illusive realm rn to prefarm 3 costs

gotta wipe few generations in OW to get 1 costs

with new region and new waypoints will take longer than usual too

[neat robin]

Yeah 1costs suck

Gotta get that bonus echo droprate food

[delicate skiff]

I will defo use the main stat changer for those one costs

[knotty fiber]

ah but she isn't

she WAS

but the v2 nerf dealt a critical hit at her overworld farming capability

now even with S2 she's trash at it

[rapid dew]

just use changli brant or camellya

[lyric fjord]

[neat robin]

Cant you leave her in fleur mode for better basics overworld?

Though still not good like v1..

[rotund drum]

it only lasts 12s iirc

[knotty fiber]

maybe
they gutted her kit a lot and v2 also had a lot of bugs

[rapid dew]

you can

u just lose dmg amp or smth idk

[knotty fiber]

I'm waiting for cn's v3 verdicts

maybe they still haven't fixed the bugs yet, considering the newest one seems like just a hotfix

[indigo nova]

When is v3? Is the beta update every Tuesday?

[knotty fiber]

They rolled out v3 ytd

I'm waiting for reviews

There might not be a review at all if they didn't fix the bugs

Because the buff was almost nonexistent

[indigo nova]

Ahh. Oh I meant v4 (does that even exist)

[indigo nova]

Yeah..

Damn u and ur idiocy kuro

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[rapid dew]

she doesnt need buffs

[tired zodiac]

I think v5 is last?

[knotty fiber]

It will take as many as it should

Until beta testers are satisfied
or they run out of time

[tired zodiac]

So 2 more weeks

[knotty fiber]

Now

What are they gonna do

so that her S6R5 doesn't do worse than my S0R1 quickswap comp in whimwa

[tired zodiac]

I hope we get a thiya best team which is like.... As good as zani's best team.
And her second best team would perform better than zani without pheobe.

[knotty fiber]

*S0R1 comp with high ping

[tired zodiac]

I forgot zani team dps.
But if we assume 75k. I hope her best team does 70k and her team without cia does 60k

[knotty fiber]

They already fucked her overworld performance

[tired zodiac]

That's enough for me

[knotty fiber]

She used to be good there now it just dips shit

[knotty fiber]

A large portion of her power is also locked behind ult and aerosion stacking

[tired zodiac]

I hope they buff her thiya form as well

[knotty fiber]

They are not

I bet my ass they are not

Waste of a dual gameplay concept

[tired zodiac]

You just get three of her forte bars and ult

Ez

[knotty fiber]

Because if they buff her

[tired zodiac]

Isn't that how it works?

Cia looses value?

[knotty fiber]

Then they gotta nerf Fleurdelys somewhat in order for Cartethyia to be relevant

But then the

can I even say that word here

Nope

But you know what I mean

They will complain

[tired zodiac]

isn't her v3 fleur form weaker than v1 already

[knotty fiber]

And those brainrots are the fanbase the devs are trying to please

[tired zodiac]

for what? Being good?

[knotty fiber]

They want big boobs

Big ass

[tired zodiac]

Fuck them

[knotty fiber]

[tired zodiac]

You're only getting 12s anyways

[knotty fiber]

You can swap to her before ult

[tired zodiac]

Oh

[knotty fiber]

As long as the liberations aren't up yet

You can swap

[tired zodiac]

I see

[knotty fiber]

So with cartethyia's dmg going into oblivion

Her only use right now is summoning 3 sword shadows, absorbing them and then fucks off

[tired zodiac]

If they keep thiya damage 2/3rd of v1 would it be good enough for world explor but bad enough to use her for a long time?

[tired zodiac]

[knotty fiber]

Paying for eidolons doesn't even help

Because since v1 the majority was alr buffing fleurdelys

The only cartethyia buff was s2 and they gutted that too

(Along with her mv)

[tired zodiac]

Let's see

I'm more worried about her having less overworld damage than being the best dps

[rapid dew]

kid form deserved that shit

[rapid dew]

wont be worse than zani

legit unplayable in OW

[tired zodiac]

Negligible damage

Same with pheobe

[vapid river]

i thought we won the rights to say that word

goon

oh just not as a describer for a person

that was me who replied to you 107, the bot just didn't like ers at the end of goon

[neat robin]

Id have prefered thyia form to be strong basics, and fleur form to have the skill + nuke lib

Idk like ive said I’m getting her anyways

But I want her to be good

Thyia + cia should be same strength as zani + phoeb at least

[rotund drum]

they're probably afraid of another zanigate

where the char is op but only if you have like 5 limited 5* things

and then people complain about p2w powercreep

that and/or they just dont care cause they know simps will simp regardless

[neat robin]

Well thyia is less reliant since she can apply aerosion herself

So I dont see why her duo cant be as strong as zani duo

[rapid dew]

can be as strong just not this big of a increase

[rotund drum]

same reason why zani duo cant be as strong as just using spectrover

[rapid dew]

but she does more dmg than zani anyway

or about the same

[neat robin]

Does she? After the big nerf

Why are people bitching if shes at zani dps currently

[rapid dew]

before the nerf she did like 15% more

[rapid dew]

cuz they dont want her to be on zani level

cuz muh duh sentinel resonator

[neat robin]

Ok one sec

[knotty fiber]

I didn't try the verb

I use the other variant of the noun

[vapid river]

i should yell at tk and have him remove the rest of them

[neat robin]

She is zani dps right now
But people want her stronger?
Or they dont want her good like zani?

[rotund drum]

lol shes not zani dps now

[knotty fiber]

ah ppl looking at the theorycraft sheet

[rapid dew]

shes about zani with pheeb and sig with cia and her wep

[knotty fiber]

well no her actual performance isn't

[rapid dew]

that being said zani should be easier to play

u just mash buttons

[neat robin]

Thyia+cia is more like zani + srover rn?

For playable dps level?

[vapid river]

tell that to someone who doesn't know the difference between absolution and confession

[rapid dew]

idp who calcs this because she either varies from carlotta to zani

[rapid dew]

[rotund drum]

isnt zani srover like super bad

[knotty fiber]

inbetween

[rotund drum]

like 1.0 4* dps tier

[rapid dew]

46k or smth

more with qs prokly

prolly

the way u should play it

[neat robin]

Zani isnt that low lmao

[knotty fiber]

inbetween zani rover and zani pheeb

[neat robin]

If your zani feels like a (non danjin) 4* you’re playing wrong

[rapid dew]

zani also has lots of optimal combos

discovered after release

carthe can get these too

[rapid dew]

well cancels

[rotund drum]

well keep in mind that dps is over time

and zani srover gets her burst like once a month

[vapid river]

some maygi simp recorded himself doing the srover qs with zani and it looked like the dmg was good

[knotty fiber]

also

[vapid river]

definitely better than 4*

[knotty fiber]

the fact that they nerfed her cartethyia form was a big reason why she became so shit in whimwa

because there's downtime for dmg dealing now

[vapid river]

does her carte form have massive grouping or aoe?

[knotty fiber]

compared to v1 with no restriction

[knotty fiber]

has aoe

visually bigger than fleurdelys

lmao

[vapid river]

but since it was nerfed it doesn't really matter rn

[knotty fiber]

and very big dmg in v1

[vapid river]

?

[knotty fiber]

yes

it pokes shit

even s2 doesn't save it

[vapid river]

50% buff doesnt' help?

bricked

and 200% plunge

[rotund drum]

her plunge is maybe the equivalent of like 300% atk in scaling

making it trips is okayish but it takes a long time to build up to it

and its still less than a single feeb HA lol

[knotty fiber]

you need a whole BA string + intro or HA + skill to do the plunge

[vapid river]

that's a lot of setup

well, more than i'd expect

does it have to be an enhanced HA or just any HA

idk if she has enhanced heavies

[knotty fiber]

normal HA

speaking of

a lot of ppl seem to not know

that her heavy attack used to apply 2 aerosion

[vapid river]

HER RESONANCE LIBERATION HAS SO MUCH SHIT

[knotty fiber]

lmao

[vapid river]

WHAT EVEN IS THIS

😭

[knotty fiber]

they only know it's 2-2-2 to 1-2-2

but it's actually 2-2-2-2 to 1-0-2-2

[edgy cobalt]

d2 emote

https://preview.redd.it/zm0vh9e7wn0f1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=04da6b7bc3376e00f76dfce9fec318f653f078ad

[vapid river]

crit by wall of text

[edgy cobalt]

holy backread

[knotty fiber]

they weebsplain what buff fleurdelys gets in lib mode

there are actually some of both

but mostly fleurdelys

and the forte is also 100% fleurdelys if you haven't seen

[edgy cobalt]

atp I just look for the inputs then copy

the real guide begins when yumi posts a speedrun on youtube

[knotty fiber]

even though most ppl can't do their rots

[edgy cobalt]

I still don’t know what zani does I just copy a 22s clear and I clear in 45s so I call it a day

[vapid river]

time to get weakauras into wuwa

[edgy cobalt]

auramaxing is not knowing what the chars and spam buttons

you will clear

[vapid river]

nah weakauras is a mod from WoW

it tells you waht to press

and when to press it

[edgy cobalt]

ohhh

[vapid river]

where to stand and not to stand

b/c not standing in fire isn't common sense for wow players

[knotty fiber]

and when you learn Yumi is only like the mid tier of high ceiling quickswap

[edgy cobalt]

I was just talking to some who put wow in their 3x3

[knotty fiber]

and there's even higher ceiling

[edgy cobalt]

yeah they’re not #1

no way in hell my craptop can keep up with their qs at all tho

[knotty fiber]

my ping can't keep up either

there's some delay in some stuffs I do

and that prevents me from making my qs better

there's also some spawning delay

[neat robin]

I’m cool just clearing in 1min

[tired zodiac]

Oh she is? Nice

[knotty fiber]

on paper

not in actual gameplay rn

because there are some stuffs they don't even know if it's intended or not

but it's in the favor AGAINST the tc dmg sheet

[vapid river]

my zani team got dirge down in... 14.56 seconds

iirc

but that was with buff

[neat robin]

Ok mr s6

[knotty fiber]

you missed r5

[neat robin]

With s0r1 it was two rots for the 2 waves + dirge for me

[vapid river]

wait how did you know my zani was r5

idt i said that here

[knotty fiber]

you bitch exposed yourself

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

otherwise how would I know

[vapid river]

i'll see myself out

[knotty fiber]

I looked into this channel one time and I saw it

[vapid river]

oh

i thought i mentioned it in tcl but not here

[knotty fiber]

what dementia does to a mf

you need some AD-9 doses

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

I keep thinking about an s6 then I realize idc to have one char that strong

[tired zodiac]

Man just buff thiya

[knotty fiber]

I'm burnt out recently

and with the v2

I have started playing elden ring again instead

and let my friend play wuwa for me

[tired zodiac]

I won't be surprised if he flexed it more than once

[knotty fiber]

bitch definitely did

[neat robin]

I really want augusta to have orange/red lightning

[tired zodiac]

[neat robin]

I actually like her design assuming they give her back the gold accessories
I think lotta was missing stuff in model leak too so I have hope

[vapid river]

i flexed it specifically to you

[tired zodiac]

Sure bro

[indigo nova]

Wait so did they rlly nerf cart because of the zani simps that are also beta testers? Aint no way right?

[knotty fiber]

idts

maybe, but I have trust that the beta testers kudog chose themselves have some decency

[vapid river]

nope, it's some nefarious scheme to further zanigate

the zanisimps are rising and nerfing carte into the ground

[terse oak]

They're really love the old cocogoat.

[tired zodiac]

🥱

[tired zodiac]

As a beta tester and a zani simp. This is true

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[burnt shoal]

will i lose primogems if i don't do this before the timer ends

[lyric fjord]

No

Holos are permanent

[rotund drum]

its more that people are mad that they're basically just breaking 5*s up into two different chars so they can milk you twice

that was the biggest issue with zani

and its kinda too late to do anything about chaccone so the only solution is to make cart not extremely reliant on chaccone but also mid so she doesnt become creep on her own

honestly they could fix this by just making the dots actual dots that anyone can apply instead of this stupid gimmick

[rapid dew]

pretty much

carthe with cia and cia sig is the same dpr as zani with phoebe and her sig(with srover)

she aint weak wt all

without cia sig should be aame as phoebe sigless

[neat robin]

Or more chars that can slot into different teams

Cia had no need to apply frazzle, her whole kit is for aero buffing
But you can pull her and use for either zani & thyia

[rotund drum]

that sounds like cope but sure

i have seen it being thrown around though

usually with no actual backup

[edgy cobalt]

they probably see the future

cart ends up good and nothing ever happens

no slope of hope needed

[knotty fiber]

it would have made sense if you could swap back to her and not end her lib

and welkin was stackable

but no

none of those

it's so dumb

[neat robin]

its so dumb the 4c sword is buffed for aerover but you dont wanna use welkin on aerover in that team anyways

[tired zodiac]

Cart is almost as good as zani and isn't as reliant on another 5 star unlike zani and thiya form dmg is good enough to be usable in the overworld even if her damage is lower than v1 beta.
Everyone's happy

[knotty fiber]

Is this your delusion or

Tell me
Which concussion hit you today

About the

"Rover = free" thing

People don't seem to have learnt anything

It is always a bait

A temporary solution

Later on down the line, Rover will get a new form, be used in a different comp that is better

People will shift to that comp

And be forced to pull another (5-star) unit for Cartethyia comp

Unless they somehow give Rover the luxury of being used on different stages of multistage contents (which I doubt)

That's the drill

[opaque flume]

Me when I lie

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-cat-minecraft-mugimeshi323-minecraft-nether-gif-7517186936989685291

[rapid dew]

chem calcs from fractured shores

1.8m dpr for both

that being said zani rot is like 29s and thyia should be about 25-29s

they are known for reliable calcs so

people are comparing cialess thyia to phoebe zani and have issues with performance cialess is around carlotta

1.83m for zani 1.84m for carthe

anyone who screams shes weak just wants powercreep

that being said after release carthe can decrease or increase so

[neat robin]

Everyone knows if you dont see one big nuke number the char is bad

Small number spam bad

[vapid river]

?????

why tf

is the game telling me i can't move on this square?

there isn't a wall in front of me

[opaque flume]

Skill issue

[neat robin]

Is that the one that requires having skorekeeper hired

[vapid river]

i've not once seen shorekeeper

in any shop

i've only seen verina once too

[neat robin]

The 3rd film right?

One end needs sk

[vapid river]

yeah

wack

scammed

[neat robin]

2nd film has one end you wanna clear the map
Other end if avoiding the bottom & top encounters (basically only follow the story book path)

[vapid river]

yeah i might try for 6 ends

and call it good

to get the rewards

[opaque flume]

You haven’t?

What does this ball mean

[vapid river]

nope, but it's not like i need heals or anything

the fights aren't hard

it's either over in 10 seconds

or the boss is an hp sponge and it takes 2 minutes

[torn tapir]

Day 13 of Saving/Farming for Fluerdelys and Lupa:

I have 100% 3 parts of Rinascita. Pretty slow progress but I'll explain why in a bit

I got my first 30/30 stars in ToA, it was kinda EZ. Definitely could of done it before but I was playing casually so I usually missed 1-2 stars

Holograms beat me up ngl, I don't want Carlotta, but her kit is very enticing for dealing with Holograms. I could probably try the Zani shield cheese tech, but idk how easy that is to preform on mobile

My builds got a ton better, but there is a small issue:

I spent literally 3 hours in game on farming crownless, LAST WEEK. I've spent the same amount farming asterite, IF THAT. My time management sucks, and my events STILL aren't completed 😭

Even with food buffs and stuff, getting perfect echoes is difficult in terms of RNG. Since I toss echoes if one sub isn't optimal, I'm saving on resources, but it takes FOREVER 😭

I started spending my stamina refreshers on Illusive realm, the most optimal method of spending your stamina in terms of echoes. It's not too bad, 3 minutes max to spend 120 stamina

Ofc since I had 126, I'm not going to finish spending them for a long while, especially with the 12 a week limit 😔

I should probably start prefarming Fluerdelys... Actually I should definitely start prefarming Fluerdelys. Lemme get to that rq

[rotund drum]

its a new set

[neat robin]

You can just farm illusive if you have the time

For the boxes

[torn tapir]

I mean her character mats

[torn tapir]

Read the third to last paragraph

[neat robin]

Yeah ik what?

I was telling simp cuz clearly he doesnt know

[torn tapir]

Oh

[rotund drum]

do the old boxes even add new sets

[torn tapir]

If they don't that would be kinda garbage

[neat robin]

they added welkin to boxes when it was added to the game

[rotund drum]

i would imagine new boxes that you farm after the set releases would have it but idk if boxes you're already holding would be updated

although google seems to suggest it does

[tired zodiac]

Yes

[rapid dew]

that doesnt do anything though

fleur wants 44111 or 41111 even

tacet fields barely drop 1 costs and dont drop 4

but i guess it can give you usable 43311 for a while

waste of resources though, imo

[neat robin]

The boxes dont drop 1costs like field can?

I mean I just wanna use for a better cia 3c anyways
I dont have tuners for that tho

[rapid dew]

they drop but

tacet fields drop very little of them

you get like 1 cost for 4 3 costs

[neat robin]

Mm true

[rotund drum]

if you really wanna autism it you can speedkill dead end butchers for the guaranteed drop every 2 kills and fuse them when the new set comes out

[indigo nova]

Yea that perfectly makes sense

[rotund drum]

cant tell if thats sarcasm

[torn tapir]

Kuro make it happen

We're the ONLY "Big four" gacha without a 3d character screen, make it optional, make the animations unique and we're cooking

https://youtu.be/DaqB3ubd3lM?si=An9zmiI-KpDYKEnH

[opaque flume]

Holy fucking shit did chat write this

[torn tapir]

Put it in a AI checker if it's that deep

[opaque flume]

Damn the new cart cinematic was pretty peak

Ngl

https://youtu.be/5D9K2rz3Uvk?si=I37gCmT9neSEBL_e

Idk how new this is

Oh very new

Was good tho

[terse oak]

crystallic cinema

Zelda but Wuwa version

[rotund drum]

more like celda

[indigo nova]

Damn

Pls kuro buff her

[terse oak]

Blue ship

[rotund drum]

gold ship

[lucid pebble]

Anyone else just spending resin stockpiling the pick-your-tacet-field boxes?

[vapid river]

I'm sure you're not alone

[neat robin]

I used all those boxes on welkin field and still didnt fix cias 2nd 3c

[rotund drum]

imagine farming 3cs for a support

[lyric fjord]

Realised only a few days ago that its much faster to reach room 5 then leave rather than doing a full run

[tawdry pagoda]

I kinda curse myself if I farm beforehand, I go YOLO

[burnt shoal]

me don't understand why does the other story cinematic come out a few days after char story quest

while this one is early

are they just ok with spoiling carthethiya story quest?

[neat robin]

Its a sentinel story

Jinhsi got one too

+has/will have resonator showcase

Also wouldnt even call it a spoiler
Its thyia fighting her fear of herself(fleur)

[rapid dew]

fear of sex

[terse oak]

eh

[edgy cobalt]

@knotty fiber I beat the game by eos'ing

[knotty fiber]

lmao

idk I might soon too

[edgy cobalt]

its mostly no storage but I've been looking for more excuses to quit

now I have little extra time to do other things yippee

[knotty fiber]

I'm looking for someone who's willing to play my cn pgr account lmao

cuz it's a waste to just leave it but I can't sell it and I don't wanna play anymore

[edgy cobalt]

lowkey the motive I'd give someone my account but too lazy to unlink my email or smth

[terse oak]

Me also recently, but playing on phone instead so my laptop wouldn't suffered from dying.

[edgy cobalt]

your phone looks like its also struggling too lol

[terse oak]

Well, not likely.

Cuz my phone can handle the issue despite of fps drop.

My laptop goes heat too fast and drain up the battery within few moments unlike Hoyo game(s)

[edgy cobalt]

ik we talked about it last time you got some android phone I forgot what it is

when you screen recorded feixiao's technique and everything was on the lowest quality with low fps

[terse oak]

That time when I didnt play Wuwa cuz out of storage, but since I quitted Genshin...

[edgy cobalt]

yeah wuwa was the game that made me upgrade to 16gb ram, really demands 2025 AAA specs to run it

[terse oak]

I'd rememder those days that you still reinstall to whole Wuwa files every patches

[edgy cobalt]

uninstall reinstall strat

[terse oak]

Yeah, sadly our internet is just crap, low as 3.1 Mbps

[edgy cobalt]

unfortunate

[terse oak]

Which make my laptop suffer more

[vapid river]

pgr doesn't let you unlink/switch emails?

[knotty fiber]

my account is a deadbind

[vapid river]

ngl i have no idea what that means

[knotty fiber]

means can't be unbound

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

CN client account is a fuckery in itself

[vapid river]

and it probably uses a legit email address

full name and allat

[tired zodiac]

I'll do it for a welkin every month /j

[knotty fiber]

I'm not asking for a pilot

I'm asking for another owner

lmao

[tired zodiac]

[knotty fiber]

I don't have time anymore

[tired zodiac]

Ahh

[knotty fiber]

so I wanna get rid of some gachas

[tired zodiac]

I'll take it for free and sell it

For 50$

[burnt shoal]

it's rover

[rotund drum]

everyone calling the mc rover is pretty dumb

maybe it sounds better in chinese

traveler sorta works cause that's something you'd call an actual traveler if you dont know his name

i dont think anyone calls the mc the trailblazer in hsr either

they just give her dumb nicknames

or use your custom name

[vapid river]

it's rover
it's joever

||it's over||

[tired zodiac]

I think they got that

Or maybe they didn't

[vapid river]

i don't think they did

it went over their head

[tired zodiac]

The image says "see you, rover". I assume that's what they were talking about

What does rover even mean

[vapid river]

it was in response to what layla said

clearly

"it's rover"

[tired zodiac]

Ig

[vapid river]

it's something they say often

[tired zodiac]

No I get the joke

[rotund drum]

i dont

[vapid river]

that's okay

[burnt shoal]

me always find it funny npcs calling us that

still remember like a npc telling us "it's my good friend rover"

very early into the game

when don't think ever met them before

[tired zodiac]

Skill issue

Then

Blade explained it above

[edgy cobalt]

its meta humor he gets the joke but pretending to be clueless for instigative reasons and entertainment is a common strat for discord/4chan levels of ragebait

its like me using a question mark

[tired zodiac]

I assumed he understood the joke and was talking about the game calling you "rover"

Rover simply means a wanderer/traveller. We can just assume that's a more common word in wuwa over words like traveller

[burnt shoal]

i'm pretty sure npcs use traveler often too

when i play through story quests

they just don't call rover traveler for reasons

[tired zodiac]

Rover/wanderer/adventurer/traveller...
Same shit in most games ig

Idk about trailblazer.

[vapid river]

i wouldn't give him that much credit. he went on a bit of an exposition on the topic of mcs and their monikers

though now that you say that he could easily latch onto that reasoning

[vapid river]

nah you give him too much credit

bro was just too dumb to understand "it's rover"

and went into automatic bitch mode

[edgy cobalt]

bro got ragebaited by his existence that's crazy

[vapid river]

though it's nice that you think so highly of people

wait you think i'm mad over this?

why would i be mad guy jones is stupid?

or do you think i have to be angry to call someone a bitch?

[edgy cobalt]

yeah ^

[vapid river]

nah

[edgy cobalt]

umadbro.png

[vapid river]

calling a bitch a bitch is like calling a homie a homie

it's just calling something what it is

no emotion needed behind that

[edgy cobalt]

depends on context but with the way you chat it sounds to me you are heavily distasted by him

[vapid river]

was i mad in that conversation you replied to from weeks ago yeah

but i'm pretty chill rn

eh

idk if he actually dislikes me

and i wouldn't say i hate him, he's just annoying sometimes

[edgy cobalt]

he's my chakkuclone I will live to see the day he ragebaits a mod to banning him and seeing history repeats itself

[vapid river]

unless he talks in other channels i doubt that would happen

[edgy cobalt]

it won't happen he's really really tame

[vapid river]

no one with ban powers chats here enough

[edgy cobalt]

literally babby mode

[vapid river]

i still think you're giving him more credit than he deserves on this specific instance

pretty sure he genuinely didn't get the joke

[edgy cobalt]

yeah because he doesn't really do much to get y'all riled up lol

like he can just call two characters mid in a row and then mans will come after him

[vapid river]

it's less about what he says and more about how he's constantly negative

it's why people yell at toshi

@waxen flare love

[edgy cobalt]

I'm not active in #・tc-lounge so idk how @waxen flare acts

or any other channel rlly

[vapid river]

he loves to play zzz and then complain about it

[edgy cobalt]

just hsr chats and sometimes anime

[edgy cobalt]

that's the usual gacha cycle

[vapid river]

yeah like this patch and the cinema bullshit in wuwa

[edgy cobalt]

70% chance if you say you love a gacha its copium

[vapid river]

such a dogshit game mode/event

whoever cooked this needs to be fired

[edgy cobalt]

yeah they need to stop shilling roguelike modes

giving that genre a bad name rn lmao

[vapid river]

it needs balancing
it needs to take half the amount of time
it needs to be actually interesting

fights are either 10 seconds or the full 2.5 minutes

[edgy cobalt]

mfw playing risk of mid or mides
omg its like that wuwa game where you start from scratch

[vapid river]

never played RoR

hades was fun

but hades was fun b/c the story the first time around was actually well written

decent music too

[edgy cobalt]

I call hades the demon slayer of roguelikes

[vapid river]

that's valid

it has a pretty/flashy art style

but they're all copying viewtiful joe

[edgy cobalt]

I did dump 70-80 hours and got all the endings with heat 32 as my PB

[vapid river]

https://tenor.com/bhSHg.gif

i didn't go that hard on hades

i killed hades a few times

and that was about it

[tired zodiac]

He plays all games and complaint about it

It's like he plays it just to complain sometimes

[vapid river]

not all games

[terse oak]

-# "Phoebe chuppi!"

[vapid river]

he's just more vocal about losing/the downsides than he is about the positives

[edgy cobalt]

• great lore building
• great characters
• great voice acting

• repetitve progression system
• weapons aren't balanced to take on higher heat levels
• shoddy upgrade system

[vapid river]

weapon balance never really negatively impacted my gameplay

but i never went too high on heat levels

the upgrade system for... what exactly?

the mirror?

or the weapons?

or just all of it

[edgy cobalt]

weapons, mirrors

the hall

[vapid river]

the hall for sure is awful

so are weapons

i think mirror is okay

[edgy cobalt]

honestly contributes to the progression system hence why I bolded it

[vapid river]

if you go on runs specifically to level it up

[edgy cobalt]

so yeah all of it

[vapid river]

though if you get a lucky build you can beat hades in 2 hours on a fresh run

or less

this also includes being skilled

[edgy cobalt]

idk if I wanna grind like 2.5m darkness or whatever amount to get a cool UI for my lil menu

[vapid river]

yeah hard pass

[edgy cobalt]

fresh file yeah

my runs avg out to 30 minutes usually

I might be open to trying out hades 2 once the game is like
good good enough

[vapid river]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1ktfuur/lupas_weapon_change_via_frager/

why do they make her weapon look so cool

and you hardly see it

[edgy cobalt]

wolf's gravestone if it was good

wait 48.6%, not even 72%
hard pass lil bro

[vapid river]

??

what?

that's the normal cdmg

cr is 24.3%

the only one that's over 70 is er afaik?

oh shit

rime draped is 72

[tired zodiac]

[vapid river]

and lotta's sig is too

wtf

okay why are some 72% cdmg and others are 48.6%??

[tired zodiac]

why do you think her weapon is like..35%(?) better than standard

[tired zodiac]

Not sure. Better base attack maybe idk

[knotty fiber]

Ask them

Just remember lower cdmg is higher base atk

And they pretty much balance their sig based on their overall performance too

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

Or the other way around

They balance the char based on the sig value they dish out

[tired zodiac]

Ye

[knotty fiber]

Either way, just because a sig has lower cdmg doesn't mean that char is weaker

Case in point: Zani

[tired zodiac]

587 with 48.6 vs 500 with 72

[vapid river]

23.4 cdmg difference = 87 atk difference?

[tired zodiac]

Since attack is important as well it makes sense

[knotty fiber]

Base atk mind you

[tired zodiac]

Base attack yes

[vapid river]

ye, cuz base is from character level + weapon

[tired zodiac]

The difference could be from 1800 to 2100 (idk math)

[knotty fiber]

So it's pretty much 8% overall dmg increase

Which is equal to 24% cdmg at 200% cdmg bonus or so

And Zani has more than 200% bonus

[rotund drum]

the base atk diff in wuwa is pretty significant since char atk is so low

also 4* weapon atk being absolute crap

while crit is relatively easy to get

[vapid river]

yall

blast tf outta them

on this dumbass fuckin cinema event

please

i never want to see this shit again

[tired zodiac]

Time to complain about 4 star characters

[vapid river]

BRO

THEY ALREADY KNOW

IT'S A PROBLEM

SO FUCKING FIX IT?????

that's actually infuriating

[edgy cobalt]

create a problem sell the solution

social experimented

[tired zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/devs-listened-wuwa-genshin-could-never-gif-6459591100973185639

[blissful tulip]

Honestly all they could do is make it shorter and the event would be better for 75% of those who disliked it

I personally enjoyed it quite a bit because it's a love letter to my favourite PGR Roguelite

[burnt shoal]

woa beyond the waves

[terse oak]

Still completing the Memory travelogue while doing ongoing quests

[waxen flare]

Love

[neat robin]

I’m ngl I thought the synergy thing just cast all 3 bursts like that last combat event they had it

[rotund drum]

the problem is that you have to click the thing and scroll till you find the characters you want

to see which ones you need to add to the team to activate the burst

but yeah this is obviously a case where they already know the problem but cant be assed to fix it

its literally a multiple choice of all the problems with the game

"which of the following shitty things about our game do you hate the most"

[burnt shoal]

woa camellya

[dusty crown]

when is the new stage of the wayyy-too-time-consuming event supposed to unlock

[rotund drum]

hopefully never

i havent done the last time consuming somnium event yet either lol

i dont mind the gimmick where chars get op new stuff in their kits but the solo fights are pretty tedious

and drag on way too long

would have been good if each run was like half the fights and you could use a full party

[lucid pebble]

I haven’t even done the cube event.

The cinema event is bad?

[vapid river]

it's not good

[rotund drum]

its illusive realm but with a billion fights per run

and tons of unnecessary clicking in between

one run literally takes like an hour

[lucid pebble]

[dusty crown]

I actually like them lol

the problem is some characters just feel completely unplayable

and yeah this one, stages are just WAY too long

[lyric fjord]

i like the event except the unnecessary clicks :( moving on the 2d map is actually fun, i like the bond thing too

[neat robin]

Good idea, bad execution

[terse oak]

Just for the sake of the rewards, I'll take them ol!
-# "Phoebe chuppy!"

[rotund drum]

the most annoying thing is probably when you clear some generic battle then it makes you click multiple times just to accept the fragments

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-phoebe-chubby-chybby-cube-phoeby-cube-gif-1233096887778764096

[delicate skiff]

With the skip option its not that bad

[lyric fjord]

there is an option to auto skip everything?

or you mean spamming F and R?

[delicate skiff]

The r one

Those are, like, around 3-4 clicks per random event

Its not that bad

[blissful tulip]

Considering even at its fastest every run takes 30 minutes alongside multiple endings of which you aren't given much to go off of to obtain (it's just visiting certain question marks), it's understandable

[delicate skiff]

The objectives should be shown for each ending, that would be nice

But overal the event is good. Not great but good

[vapid river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j95kNwZw8YY

[marble charm]

Lupa's Sig

Resonance Liberation DMG buff 44% to 24%

Lupa

DMG Buff during Pack Hunt got changed to ATK Buff (numbers unchanged)
During Pack Hunt, allies now deal 20% more Fusion DMG against Bosses

Cartethyia

Carte Dodge Counter MV increased from 14.2% to 22.7%
Fleu Aero Erosion trigger condition changed from changed from BA4 and MA3 to BA5 and MA2
Transforming now causes her to immediately use BA2 or MA1
Healing from Liberation increased from 30% to 50%
Fleu Dodge Counter MV increased from 9.2% to 15.3%
S5 healing and DMG reduction changed to a shield equal to 20% Max HP
Intro now causes her Basic Attqck chain to start at BA2

[terse oak]

What is MA?

[knotty fiber]

Mid air

[terse oak]

Oh!

She's got buffing so good

[terse oak]

Oh, yeah!
Special broadcast in about less than a hour

[burnt shoal]

got level 70

[lyric fjord]

SCAR

OMG SCAR

YES

[terse oak]

so big!!

[lyric fjord]

augusta's blade is huge wtf

[outer jetty]

that girl with scissor is ryoko matoi from kill la kill lol

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Netflix-Anime-Kill-La-Kill.jpg

[dawn willow]

https://twitter.com/narushio_wuwa/status/1928417814525759897

Narushio (@Narushio_wuwa)

Six New Wuthering Waves Future Patch Characters were revealed
#WutheringWaves #WuWa #鳴潮

X · May 30, 2025, 11:46 AM

I'm assuming the guy is for a future Huanglong update, the design doesn't feel Rinascita at all

[robust axle]

Holy balls

I leaked

[dawn willow]

Or maybe for a future JP-based region? Idk

[robust axle]

Why do they ALL look good (except phrolova)

[dawn willow]

I can't wait for more Cristoforo yappery at least, the teaser from the livestream is making me hyped a bit

Livestream codes
https://twitter.com/narushio_wuwa/status/1928418859419070713?

Narushio (@Narushio_wuwa)

Wuthering Waves 2.4 Steam Codes

SHADOWOFGLORY
FLAMESOFHEART
AGONISON

#WutheringWaves #WuWa #鳴潮

X · May 30, 2025, 11:50 AM

[lyric fjord]

The dude looks half fisherman half irl streamer with his stick

[sweet coral]

Italian Sanhua

[sweet coral]

YOOOO A MAN

[terse oak]

my god, new drip!

[lyric fjord]

She looks outlandish tho, american or chinese perhaps (in wuwa world)

[terse oak]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1928426163283640426/photo/1

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

Incisor of the strings of annihilation
#WutheringWaves #Chisa

X · May 30, 2025, 12:20 PM

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1928421129674273050/photo/1

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

The long-awaited performance
#WutheringWaves #Phrolova

X · May 30, 2025, 12:00 PM

[sweet coral]

Chisa???

Chixia

I see we’re still not out of the C-A curse

[robust axle]

NO MORE C NAMED CHARACTERS

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[cold tartan]

Augusta looks good

[lyric fjord]

Surely the gunner is what aalto was meant for

[marble charm]

https://x.com/WW_JP_Official/status/1928431196473626632

鳴潮 (Wuthering Waves) 公式 (@WW_JP_Official)

さすらう孤高の剣士

#鳴潮
#仇遠

X · May 30, 2025, 12:40 PM

[terse oak]

ok, ok.
So, not a drip marketing but just revealing upcoming resonators.

[sweet coral]

Welcome back Jing Yuan

[sweet coral]

Kinda like with the Rinacita teasers with Carlotta Zani Phoebe Brant and Roccia

[terse oak]

imma try to get Chisa, Phrolova, that "mavuika" woman

[lyric fjord]

Augusta, dont jinx it, no one wants a shit kit like her

[dawn willow]

Okay so def for a Huanglong update in the future, if we're getting any regional updates there at least

https://twitter.com/wuthering_waves/status/1928419871559160120?

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

Wuthering Waves Story Trailer | What The Tides Tell Us
Allow me to share with you a tale—
A tale of struggle, by a people born of and fated to perish in the sea

*Includes work-in-progress content.
Does not represent the final look of the game.
#WutheringWaves

X · May 30, 2025, 11:55 AM

Weird we can't embed twitter videos here anymore, oh well

Can't wait to see Septimont soon

[indigo nova]

I know who I’m going to save for now

Green jy

[spice finch]

Chisa and the pistol girl ❤️

Also yuan looks cool

[marble charm]

https://x.com/WW_JP_Official/status/1928436241097269279

鳴潮 (Wuthering Waves) 公式 (@WW_JP_Official)

燃える永火の「悪魔」

#鳴潮
#ガルブレーナ

X · May 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

Galbrena

[neat robin]

Woah hold up new chars?

These are real?

[tawdry pagoda]

Sun goddess lady looks cool

[tawdry pagoda]

From today's stream

[tawdry pagoda]

Here

6 of them

[neat robin]

Ahh

Augusta younuo qiuyuan for me

[sweet coral]

Qiuyuan looks like a hotter Jing Yuan

[rapid dew]

like who

mavuika? the strongest dps, realistically invincible, mobile, good AoE and also top subdps/support for like 10+ teams? if thats shit kit then idk whats good

and thats without glazing

[cobalt apex]

yoo peak kit u have everything perfect without flaws

they should have this kit design for every char in every game

true

[rapid dew]

ideally kits are good

[cobalt apex]

yea everyone should be perfect

[rapid dew]

whyd you want kit with flaws

[cobalt apex]

because it doesnt invalidate the others?

lol

why would i want constant powercreep every patch

[rapid dew]

doesnt need to invalidate others to feel good?

they dont need to do insane damage just have no obvious flaws

[cobalt apex]

lets just make a char who does more dmg but also more comfortable and also more versatile

such a good idea

[rapid dew]

doing normal damage isnt flaw

doing shit damage with one character and doing top tier damage with this one character is a flaw

[cobalt apex]

except this normal dmg char is more uncomfortable, more situational, less versatile

peak

[rapid dew]

ideally they all have similar power level and all feel distinct and fun to play

[cobalt apex]

which isnt what happened with mav?

[rapid dew]

yeah but calling her kit shit is still wrong

if augusta got kit like that no fan of her would be mad

[cobalt apex]

yea because theyre fans 💀

what did u expect

[rapid dew]

she could have similar comfort with normal dps level

mav would still be amazing if she had same dps as second best carry aka varesa or neuv

[cobalt apex]

which also isnt the case

[rapid dew]

thats just numbers not really kit design

if we ignore numbers, shes mobile, easy to play, has hard combos if you want, easy to ignore damage, plenty of team options etc

either way its just zani except the last one

[lyric fjord]

Horribly boring to play and huge wasted potential. Not as bad as what they did to liney, but still

[rapid dew]

what wasted potential

being a healer?

[lyric fjord]

Using swords, fire and punches like she was advertised for months before her release

[rapid dew]

tbh most chars in genshin are boring to play, but mav has more combos than most characters so far so theres that

[dusty crown]

i cringe 95% of the time when i see people on hoyolab saying "pull if you like their gameplay" for supports

[cold tartan]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1928446296056360967?t=0cXErYbF6kjGVPYK3NN18w&s=19

She mogs Mavuika for real

[cold tartan]

That'll be too much

[lyric fjord]

Just 3 examples

[rapid dew]

eqswap

[rotund drum]

himeko, keqing, black swan, dan heng, miyabi, arlecchino

original characters do not steal

[indigo nova]

Yeah fr

Literal copies I’m amazed

[rapid dew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-with-tongue-cat-smiling-gif-11949735780193730026

[indigo nova]

Augusta is literally how I imagined mav to be

It’s too accurate it’s scary

Sigh

[neat robin]

I’m really hoping that younuo is holding one of those giant disk/ring weapons

[rotund drum]

399k lmao

ok then

ok i pushed it up to 411k

best im getting on this ruleset probs

[lyric fjord]

399k what

[rotund drum]

the sp drain sucks

oh i was in the wrong channel

still stands