・wuwa-lounge

[sweet coral]

That I slap on everyone who is a support

I should probably get a proper Spectro Moonlit set for Phoebe though, I think her damage could be worth it

[neat robin]

Yes

Or rather you should

I skipped phoeb + zani

[sweet coral]

Tbh good choice

Zani’s very good but I bet Cartethyia would be even better

Especially with Ciaccona

The C and A curse

[neat robin]

I love my aeros

s3r2 jiyan
s0r1 cia
s?r1 thyia

[sweet coral]

Imagine if we get a better Aero Rover and their name also starts with C and ends with A

C and A…ero

[neat robin]

Need r5 blood sword

Rejuv aerover with r5 sword wasnt that much worse than sk for jiyan

[sweet coral]

I don’t wanna farm Moonlit again 😭 I don’t need anymore Sun Sinking Eclipse

Or Havoc Eclipse as it’s now called

[neat robin]

I have my 2 electro moonlit pieces sitting useless now 😔

[sweet coral]

I need a better Moonlit Tacet Field bruh

[neat robin]

Become a danjin main

[sweet coral]

[neat robin]

Farm 5/5 subs havoc set while getting moonlit

[sweet coral]

Well I guess I can

I did use Danjin over Sanhua for HRover

Doesn’t mean I don’t need a better Moonlit field though

[neat robin]

Nothing really universal

Ig moonlit+rejuv, but rejuv already has 2

[sweet coral]

Who tf even use Lingering Tunes

Besides those idiots who farmed that for XLY

[neat robin]

After nm echos nobody

Good thing my xy lived on 2/2 build the entire time

[sweet coral]

I bet LT XLY farmers were found dead in a ditch after Nightmare Tempest Mephis

Wait no, Thundering Mephis

[neat robin]

Mine was clearing fine so I just never bothered

Then nm dropped and I only needed to farm it + 2 electro pieces

[sweet coral]

I wonder why Lampylumen Myriad doesn’t buff Glacio and BASIC ATTCK damage

They specifically made it Glacio + Coordinated ATK damage just to restrict it to Zhezhi and fuck the Lingyang mains even more

[neat robin]

Idk why anyone farmed glacio set for her to start with

Ig s6 zz mains

Oof I’m looking at my xy and wow he has some bad pieces

[sweet coral]

Lumen Myriad is on Frosty Resolve and Anthem set though

I don’t get why it’s on Frosty Resolve tbh

I mean it’s a Carlotta set and Carlotta already has Sentry Construct

[neat robin]

Like what are these

[sweet coral]

It’s practically her signature echo

[sweet coral]

Literally shit besides the double crit

My Carlotta also has some meh pieces but she gets the job done anyways

[neat robin]

My yinlin is properly on empyrean set now

[sweet coral]

Nice Yinlin

Let me steal that

My XLY’s using Jianxin/Yangyang

[neat robin]

Fuck I need more thyia info
Idk what to farm for her 4cost or for cia

[sweet coral]

Are you pulling Cia??

I would say just slapping Moonlit on Cia could work fine if her damage isn’t very impressive

Her main thing is her Erosion application and Outro after all

I think Cart might end up using Fleurdelys Sword as her 4 cost

[neat robin]

Yeah but cr or cdmg who knows

Hmm maybe I should build her
I dont use hrover

[sweet coral]

I used to use Hrover but not after CMLY

Alright time to save for Cart

[neat robin]

Well my cia build isnt terrible.. (but on yinlin so -8 cr, +16 cdmg)

If moonlit build

[sweet coral]

Well I suppose it’s good if you have the standard pistol on her

Or her signature

[neat robin]

I have too many single crit pieces

I’m getting sig
36 cr & aero shred

[neat robin]

This chest is pissing me off how tf do I get over there

No grapple allowed

Wait nvm

Dirge dragon drops you up high emough

[vapid river]

Lotta e cancel?

[lucid pebble]

Fibi.

[tired zodiac]

brant

changli E. space, switch to brant, dirge echo, charged attack, double jump, charged attack( you dont need that much to reach there but this is max distance with those characters)

[neat robin]

Thats too much work dirge alone was enough to glide over

[dusty crown]

platforming tc

[opaque flume]

Goofy

[tired zodiac]

Yeah ik. I was explaining how much air distance you could cover with those two

[neat robin]

I think I was being stupid
I farmed rectifier mats instead of pistol

I dont have any plans to build a rectifier char
Not pulling phoeb

[tired zodiac]

Well

Uhh

It's ok, future rectifier character

[wheat moon]

if need be u should be able to convert it to other mats

iirc that's how it should work

hi ac1d pls help

thanks

[neat robin]

Nah its fine I’m not really in a huge rush

Cias kinda just floating around til thyia releases anyways

[wheat moon]

fairs

[opaque flume]

Do we even know if cia is good for thyia

[neat robin]

Everything points to her being bis

Thyia - aero erosion set (fleur sword 4cost)
Aerover + blood sword buffing aero / aerover converts any dot into aerosion

[tawdry pagoda]

New DoT mechs give damage over time to my economic situation

[dusty crown]

that gambling event has to be one of the dumbest event i've seen lel

[neat robin]

Cia arttt

[lucid pebble]

Is Ciabatta boss mats prefarmable?

[neat robin]

Fleur weekly, dirge overworld

[marble charm]

Lol

[outer jetty]

2.4 beta up

New set apparently
Increase HP by 12%. For 3 seconds after casting Intro Skill or Basic Attack, DMG dealt ignores 8% of the target's DEF. When the target has at least 1 stack of Aero Erosion, DMG dealt to the target is Amplified by 20%

By theoryteen

[blissful tulip]

An HP Scaler?

[outer jetty]

Oh it is her signature

[forest dome]

[outer jetty]

Should be. In beta her HP reach over 57k

Crown of Unyielding Destiny

Lv.90/90

412 base ATK

77% HP mainstat

Her sig stat

[forest dome]

lupa model looks greatge

[knotty fiber]

[outer jetty]

Look like Cart has multiple way to apply Aerosion herself

[knotty fiber]

also -2 testers

[spice finch]

So we'll have new echo set?

[knotty fiber]

nope

that's her sig

[spice finch]

Who can use the current aero? Cia?

[knotty fiber]

no one

there is no new set

who tf spreaded that

[spice finch]

So carthe uses the current aero set?

I havent started farming 😅

[knotty fiber]

oh

there IS a new set

新声骸套装：愿戴荣光之旅

but it's mephis

[spice finch]

Cool

[knotty fiber]

ok

[blissful tulip]

Saw a leak that amplifies damage by 20% upon inflicting a DoT, I assume that one's it

[knotty fiber]

that's sig

[outer jetty]

Journey of Glory (2-piece set)

Aero damage increased by 10%

Journey of Glory (5-piece set)

When an enemy is inflicted with [Aero Erosion] critical rate increase by 10% and aero damage increases by 30% for 10 seconds.

Wolf Blaze (2-piece set)
Melta damage increased by 10%
Wolf Blaze (5-piece set)
When Resonance Release is cast, the Melt damage of the characters in the team is increased by 15%, and the Resonance Release damage is increased by 20%, which lasts for 30 seconds

Lupa

[knotty fiber]

ok

Myuy is somewhat credible now

some of them are verified this time

[outer jetty]

🙂‍↕️

[knotty fiber]

-5 testers in total

also

destined death

[outer jetty]

lmao leaker even posted UID of the beta tester

[marble charm]

Lol

[dusty crown]

so gust of welkin is meant to be for cia 😦

[rotund drum]

hopefully lupa saves pyro

[outer jetty]

Via teamgemberry

[lyric fjord]

Looks sped up wtf

[outer jetty]

there is Cart TOA testing but it is 144p

[cobalt apex]

peak quality

[forest dome]

good enough

[outer jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316155486034198606/1372561905817751663/video_2025-05-15_20-10-40.mp4?ex=68273963&is=6825e7e3&hm=d2da3f542590a31f30b1eaaccc57a7b5954d47c962b527d25006eb5f30e224a6&

[cobalt apex]

that is definitely not good enough

my eyes died

[outer jetty]

[marble charm]

Lol

[forest dome]

[cobalt apex]

cinema

i cant see shit

[forest dome]

ong

need carte comp cookery

[marble charm]

When as Fleudelyrs, cannot use Grapple, using other Utilities transforms her into Cartethyia
Feludelyrs can walk on waterz but doing so will continuously consume stamina

Also there was this

关于芙露德莉斯的补充说明
不会走路就是一直浮空，不可以爬山，还有不会游泳，直接漂水上，不消耗体力

以实机为准

Regarding Fleudelyrs
Shw cant walk and will just continue to float. She cannot climb, ahe cannot swim, she just floats on water, she does not consume stamina

[cobalt apex]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-satoru-gojo-gojo-floating-gif-13262904807689696418

[forest dome]

i need lupa

footage

[marble charm]

Welp rip even more lol
再加一个冷知识，库洛的保密协议是100W，不是50W

[cobalt apex]

i dont think i understand chinese

[forest dome]

agreege

[rotund drum]

carty looks kinda boring kit

hopefully lupa saves 2.4

[marble charm]

Tldr some people got caught leaking the beta

So they got removed from the beta and now need to pay a fine

And the fine is 100W RMB which is around 14W USD

[rotund drum]

seems reasonable

[knotty fiber]

cute

[rotund drum]

i doubt it'd be that fast though

and kusogames probably doesnt care that much tbh

[marble charm]

Is it though? Lol

[outer jetty]

rip soldier

[outer jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316155486034198606/1372571378154340352/ok.mp4?ex=68274235&is=6825f0b5&hm=25fbdaaac7db0c5874c1554ebbd7f918f454758e96f1ea05a9da50b599efd667&

no onfield anims yet. Here is in menu

[forest dome]

[outer jetty]

11 soldier in trouble. rip

[rotund drum]

idk how much a W is but $14 is like a burger in current economy

so its a W burgers

[marble charm]

W is 10000

[spice finch]

Any1 with translated carthe sequences?

[outer jetty]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bJkeM5-o1ceFoMZ_PKvwWAPmMRYcsLjfV93cHoHGA7E/edit?gid=0#gid=0
this for now

[marble charm]

I should probably note some of the sequencr numbers are incorrect

[outer jetty]

yeah I read some are inccorrect apparently

[knotty fiber]

2 of the sequences have wrong descriptions

[outer jetty]

2.x planned till 2.8

[knotty fiber]

stated by kuro

they planned shit all the way til 3.4

[marble charm]

The info that got leaked earlier was so messy I just decided to stop translating until hakush.in updates

[outer jetty]

that is why I said 2.x
I prob gonna pull for Phrolova then the other just depend

[sweet coral]

Damn, Confession Phoebe still deals pretty decent damage with Moonlit

At least good enough for a sub DPS

[sweet coral]

She’s a HP scaler?

[knotty fiber]

yes

fully HP scaler

no atk at all

[sweet coral]

No Crit???

Cuz I see her signature has HP%

[knotty fiber]

there might be crit in forte

but her sig is 77% HP

no crit

only echo set has 10% crate

[sweet coral]

They really don’t want you to build DPS ARover

[marble charm]

We already know she can crit

[sweet coral]

Though I suppose you can just use Blazing Brilliance for DPS ARover

First HP scaler btw

[knotty fiber]

now

[sweet coral]

Third non ATK scaler overall

[knotty fiber]

with this

they have bricked half of BOTH rejuv and moonlit for her

[sweet coral]

(Taoqi and Yuanwu are the other two)

[knotty fiber]

let's see if welkin is stackable

[sweet coral]

Full party Welkin

[knotty fiber]

she doesn't use welkin

[sweet coral]

Better get farming bitch

[knotty fiber]

there's a better one

[spice finch]

So if no cia, what is carthe bis team

[sweet coral]

Not even with a signature 4 cost?

[knotty fiber]

prob SK

[knotty fiber]

she can still use it

but it's not the best

[sweet coral]

ARover and Phoebe I guess

[knotty fiber]

they decided to fuck everything up by releasing a new set

[sweet coral]

Phoebe is there just to apply Frazzle for ARover to convert to Erosion btw

[knotty fiber]

she might not even need it

maybe

[sweet coral]

Then why the fuck does Welkin even exist

[knotty fiber]

because she has a lot of self app

[spice finch]

Do we need that much of erosion even if carthe can self apply?

[knotty fiber]

for supports

[sweet coral]

Not really? But it should still be good

Cart was said to have instant Erosion trigger like Zani if I’m right

[knotty fiber]

also

Fleurdelys echo might get a new set too

[sweet coral]

The ARover and Cart restriction makes the 4 cost useless for everyone else lmfao

[knotty fiber]

so double set echo

[sweet coral]

Wait

If Cia is also gonna use Welkin

What’s her 4 cost

[sweet coral]

Not surprising I guess

[knotty fiber]

still fleurdelys maybe

or it's gonna be aerover that uses it

with chaconne aerover can convert

and proc the set

[sweet coral]

Imagine if Cia uses a 3 cost as main like Zani

[marble charm]

Baizhi?

[sweet coral]

Damage wise

[knotty fiber]

this is the new cost 4

[sweet coral]

Over all, 5 with Baizhi and SK

[knotty fiber]

but thy prob doesn't use it

[sweet coral]

Wait wtf

[knotty fiber]

increases glacio dmg and aero dmg

idk why glacio

[sweet coral]

Cart double dips apparently

[knotty fiber]

she doesn't have glacio dmg

[sweet coral]

Maybe it’ll be for another set?

[knotty fiber]

maybe

but that's the new aerosion set

[marble charm]

Her skill and lib dmg are hp scaling

[sweet coral]

What’s the effect btw

[sweet coral]

? I thought it’s just ATK scaling

Oh it is Hp scaling

[marble charm]

Only her basics and intro are atk scaling

[knotty fiber]

10% aero dmg
hitting an enemy with aerosion increases crit rate by 10% and aero dmg by 30% for 10s

[sweet coral]

So it’s literally Frazzle set reskinned

[sweet coral]

Yoooooo Fire Rosaria /j

[forest dome]

need more

[sweet coral]

Wait is that her Forte or Echo?

[knotty fiber]

echo

[outer jetty]

echo skill

[sweet coral]

Ah

So what’s the other set?

[knotty fiber]

fusion

similar to welkin

[sweet coral]

Cuz that’s obviously not Erosion set

Oh

Soo

[knotty fiber]

fusion dmg boost, lib dmg boost, teamwide fusion dmg boost

lupa's sig also has fusion dmg boost

[sweet coral]

That sounds more like Midnight Veil

[knotty fiber]

midnight veil is next resonator

not teamwide

[sweet coral]

Close enough I guess?

[knotty fiber]

it really isn't

[sweet coral]

Welkin needs Erosion

[knotty fiber]

doesn't matter

[sweet coral]

From what you said, I don’t think it needs Fusion DoT

[knotty fiber]

the concept is it has own buff and buffs the whole team

[sweet coral]

So it sounds more like Veil or Moonlit, something that just uses Outro

[knotty fiber]

and this set doesn't use outro

👍

[sweet coral]

Ah

[knotty fiber]

DoT or not

only 1 comp can use it

pretty much

[sweet coral]

Full Fusion team

[thorn brook]

Didn't they first appear in Canta's quest?

Just not absorbable

[sweet coral]

I think this one is slightly different

[knotty fiber]

I knew it was there a while ago but I didn't know it was canta's quest

cuz I didn't do it

[sweet coral]

The one in Canta quest looks more like a blue Mephis tbh

At least from what I remember

[knotty fiber]

the echo

[sweet coral]

Is that an enemy

[thorn brook]

It had a fish tail I think

[thorn brook]

New character?

[knotty fiber]

npc

[thorn brook]

Ah cool

[sweet coral]

Oh so it’s like ARover signature but Fusion on Liberation

[marble charm]

Seems like it was the guy step leaked a while back

[sweet coral]

And Bonus instead of Amp

I hope Cart will be good even without Cia

[knotty fiber]

she loses lots of dmg

[sweet coral]

I already dipped for Phoebe just cuz Zani needed her

[knotty fiber]

because it seems like her kit doesn't have amp like zani

[sweet coral]

Expected

[knotty fiber]

but she still functions

because she has a lot of self app

[rotund drum]

betting that like 90% of her damage comes from the erosion multiplied nuke

[lilac hare]

How is lupa with brant?
My current team is brant sanhua sk

Hypercarry so no changli here

[rotund drum]

maybe even 100%

is lupa kit even out

[sweet coral]

Probably only marginally better if Lupa has Fusion amp Outro

[knotty fiber]

she has fusion + ba amp

is that enough to elaborate

[marble charm]

We know parts of it but not the whole thing

[sweet coral]

Oh

[lilac hare]

I did see a lot of leaks as well as their animations, dunno about the exact kit details though

[sweet coral]

Oh damn

God damn it Kuro

[knotty fiber]

Lupa will complete the fusion loop

[outer jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1316155486034198606/1372585416896679947/image.png?ex=68274f48&is=6825fdc8&hm=c99e56aa16f9bfb6242dc9986257c7742a70156bef5511e2096ee5285713ceb1&

[sweet coral]

You can’t just drop a DPS Brant support like that

[knotty fiber]

Lupa -> Brant -> Changli -> Lupa

[sweet coral]

[knotty fiber]

Lupa's main dmg is lib

which Changli buffs

[sweet coral]

Brant as sustain too

Fusion: The quick swap element

Everybody is DPS

Everybody is Support

Can we not have a quick swap oriented Fusion DPS next

I can see the appeal of it but damn I don’t feel like sweating when I need to play Fusion

[knotty fiber]

you don't have to

it's just a loop

[thorn brook]

Sweating when playing the fire characters is fitting I guess

[knotty fiber]

it's pretty much almost every other comp

[sweet coral]

Wait

God damn that’s true

[knotty fiber]

except all 3 of them do dmg

[sweet coral]

A loop works yeah but both Changli and Brant works best with Quickswap

I assume it’ll be the same with Lupa

[knotty fiber]

you're only recommended to quickswap when all 3 outros are used up

if you quickswap during outro is anyway

[sweet coral]

I ain’t an expert with Quickswap but don’t they Quickswap before they outro?

Changli gets her forte filled before she gets Brant Outro so she can just burst them down

[outer jetty]

@forest dome Lupa anims.

[forest dome]

ngh

[tired zodiac]

I'm finally at peace

All I need to know is lupa's weapon and both character's detailed explanation

[knotty fiber]

There is weapon info

[tawdry pagoda]

Isn't it broadblade like aero guy ?

Who also wields a lance

[knotty fiber]

Unknown main and sub stat
Effect: ATK +12%. Upon using intro skill or resonance liberation, res lib dmg is increased by 48% for 6s. Using heavy attack will extend the duration of the said effect by 4s, up to 1 time. After the effect have been successfully extended, increases the team's fusion dmg bonus by 24% for 30s. Effect of the same type does not stack.

[dusty crown]

that's an expensive team

[lyric fjord]

gambling is always the right way

[outer jetty]

hakush.in up but still missing some that require fix

https://ww.hakush.in/character/1409?v=2.4.1
Cart

https://ww.hakush.in/character/1207?v=2.4.1
Lupa

[vapid river]

yeah there's nothing on either page

it just loads in blank

the phoebe place holders are kinda funny

[outer jetty]

CN text is up

EN, as alway lagging behind

[outer jetty]

I literally in the process of reading it ol

[vapid river]

google translate

ftw

[dusty crown]

it's funny that KR and JP are up

[forest dome]

🥀

[outer jetty]

https://ww.hakush.in/weapon/21010036
Lupa sig

588 ATK and 48.6 CDmg

[dusty crown]

so it seems cart has no hp to crit thingy in her kit ?

seems there's a lot of "considered aero erosion damage" though

[tired zodiac]

I wonder if 44111 might end up being better in this case

[dusty crown]

with her weapon this is something i could see

she has +8% CR from her passives and +10% from her set i guess however

[dusty crown]

lol seele trolling by saying free 5-stars selector

[sweet coral]

The fuck

CMLY and Carlotta won Round 1 and 2 for Bracket A

[vapid river]

really? calcharo won for me >.>

lotta got 3rd

changli got 2nd

round 2 hasn't happened yet, 8 hours

are you... asia?

[dusty crown]

calcharo won on america server yeah

[vapid river]

which was fucking dumb

[lyric fjord]

depends on the server

[vapid river]

i have no idea how he gets to go first

when they're all on the same square

[dusty crown]

the event as a whole is the stupidest shit ever

[vapid river]

but i have no idea how the prio goes

[sweet coral]

Calculator got 2nd and 4th

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

He won on SEA too but only 1.35 multi

[sweet coral]

Yeah

[lyric fjord]

y'all are salty you're not winning your bets....

[vapid river]

it's just something to do

[sweet coral]

I’m more confused over why the hell are they all different

[vapid river]

i just legit don't get how cal goes first

when they were all on the same spot

and how lotta gets 3rd and changli gets 2nd

when they're both on the same spot

no ties

[sweet coral]

Changli and Jinhsi got eliminated for Asia

[vapid river]

😭

nooo

i'd be sad to see jinhsi go

[sweet coral]

My hopes are on Brant

All in I say

[vapid river]

lotta all the way

[sweet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/aventurine-aventurine-hsr-aventurine-honkai-star-rail-aventurine-leak-aventurine-animation-gif-6934861416113929607

Brant my man

[vapid river]

that's urine though

[sweet coral]

Shh, they’re both handsome guys

Same damn thing

[vapid river]

brant shows chest better

i'm just an aventurine hater

so i'm biased

[dusty crown]

it's mostly that 1) it's time gated and you need to log in before a specific time to get rewards, 2) it's gambling and all RNG, which we already have enough of in this game, 3) there's no event going on right now if you've been doing them daily since the game launched (and the one that lasted was pretty much the board thing which is purely passive too). I'm expecting more involved events from an anniversary. Like the think with XY when he was free was pretty nice.

[knotty fiber]

Lupa's idles are some horn shet right there

[sweet coral]

Technically I haven’t finished the cube event but I already got all the Astrites from there

[knotty fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1309003156834750564/1372627243343282226/ScreenRecording_05-15-2025_11-28-22_1.mov?ex=6827763c&is=682624bc&hm=7aae8cd07c0d10b3a356df12db92ac1f8279df4b5fc5e06cb8e9897472d5d68e&

[sweet coral]

The rest are just materials I could get when I feel like it

[vapid river]

if only her gameplay was as cool as her idles

[knotty fiber]

I can't in good faith say Lupa's gameplay is not cool

I like it a lot

[vapid river]

more lupa for 107

wait are you pulling lupa?

[knotty fiber]

Nope

My pulls are preoccupied

[vapid river]

rip

mine are non-existent

no cia, no carte, no lupa, no phro

i don't even have any sequences i want from next anni banner

[knotty fiber]

S6 Thy plan still hasn't changed

[vapid river]

i looked at zz and i'd have to get her s4 to have anything that helps the teams

[knotty fiber]

S6 Phrolova depends

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

She's gonna get S2 at least though

[vapid river]

you enjoy your large elf lady

will you be picking up cia too or just gonna use aerover?

since it doesn't seem like you absolutely need cia for thyia to work

[knotty fiber]

The other

[vapid river]

oh wait... you'd need phoebe for aerover to work

[knotty fiber]

No Chaconne = lose a big chunk of dmg

Thy has 0 amp

[vapid river]

yeah, cia just applies so much aerosion

[knotty fiber]

Or more like 20%

chaconne has 100% amp

[vapid river]

and buffs dmg

wtf???

[knotty fiber]

It's not even the app

[vapid river]

100%???

[knotty fiber]

It's the amp

Aerosion amp

[vapid river]

that's insane

[knotty fiber]

It's just feeb

Lol

Pheeb has 100% frazz amp

[vapid river]

so they're just keeping up with the standard

ah i thought cia's weapon increased amp too

but it just aero res shred

though it does give aero dmg bonus

[knotty fiber]

Aero shred is the good one

Because she doesn't have much res shred

[dusty crown]

does it look worse than phoebe for zani or not as bad overall

[knotty fiber]

They are of about the same importance for different reasons

Pheeb doesn't give Zani much on the amp department cuz Zani alr has 100% by default, but she gives a lot of frazz

Chaconne doesn't give much on aerosion department cuz Thy alr applies a lot in her own kit, but Thy has little to no amp so

[dusty crown]

she has 50% aerosion amp in one of her aihr32340211$$$502 states

(this is a number)

if papage translation is accurate

[knotty fiber]

Nvm

I'm looking in the kit

She does have amp

【芙露德莉斯】自身一定范围内，目标风蚀效应触发的间隔减少50%，并使目标受到的风蚀效应伤害加深50%。

There's too much to look at

Her kit is a literal wall of text

[dusty crown]

it's two characters in one

there's way too much yellow

[knotty fiber]

Looks like her ult isn't considered aerosion

Just like Zani's

Wtf am I tripping

Her forte doesn't mention any of the fleurdelys attack being considered aerosion dmg

[marble charm]

So how strong are lupa's sequences? They kinda look mediocre to me, especially compared to that sig she has

[marble charm]

Oh thats interesting

[knotty fiber]

Lupa's are fine

Considering she's not a mdps

25% crate on S1 is big

40% team dmg bonus on S2 like modern sdps

Multi up on S3 and S4

40% def shred on main dmg dealing moves and some QoL on S6

[vapid river]

does thy apply aerosion?

she does right?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

A lot

[vapid river]

from basics?

yeah?

[knotty fiber]

This is so weird

Why are her fleurdelys attacks not considered aerosion

[vapid river]

no clue

could be beta wording issues?

[lyric fjord]

reminds me of carlotta not having her forte and some parts of liberation not considered as skill dmg on v1

[winged belfry]

It thematic choice

Carthe is Erosion while Fleur is mostly heavy

[knotty fiber]

It's not

[winged belfry]

Carthe applies, Fleur benefits

[knotty fiber]

The dmg is stuffed into fleurdelys mode

Multiplier and buffs

[winged belfry]

Well yeah, carthe is the setup phase

Fleur is the cash out big DPS phase

[knotty fiber]

But it's not considered aerosion dmg

while Cartethyia's attacks are

[spice finch]

Any of her sequence buffing carthe mode?

[knotty fiber]

I'm not asking why it's not applying

I'm asking why it's not considered

[winged belfry]

Dunno

Question is, will these 10 stacks not decay below 5 before Fleur finishes her stuff

And whenever it's worth to stay on Fleur past getting max stacks

Vs just starting new rotation quicker

[rapid dew]

so ciaccona isnt 40% dmg increase

very pog

[knotty fiber]

Not 10

Aerosion caps at 3 for players

Aerover increases the cap by 3

Thy's S2 increases the cap by 3

[winged belfry]

Interesting

But that means that unless you do swaps, so lose outro, you won't get max stacks without Ciaccona reapplying them

But ARover will be able to get it done from Pheeb rather easily

[knotty fiber]

What lose

Status outros don't lose their effects upon swapping

Aerover's doesn't, ciaccona's doesn't either

[winged belfry]

I was thinking of Luno

Upcoming

Aero gauntlet

Buffs heavy

But then you'd be healers less

[knotty fiber]

Most of her dmg is basic

Not heavy

[winged belfry]

Is it?

I thought majority of Fleur combos count as heavy

Will check it on wiki later

[knotty fiber]

At least from what I see, the BAs are not considered heavy

There are heavy parts

But not all

Thy's heavy is also somehow considered BA as well

Since the texts are most likely missing

It's best waiting for v3

Cartethyia form

Heavy but considered BA

[vapid river]

who this?

heavy+aero buffer?

don't give me hope

surely they won't be as good as mort

[knotty fiber]

One forte here also considered BA

Zzz

So spreaded out

[rotund drum]

hopefully they buff her

[neat robin]

Uh so

Aerosion set on thyia with fleur 4cost still right

Hp sig?
So she wants hp 1costs too?

Theres so much info I just got home

[pure minnow]

Where are you guys getting the kit from? Is it only in Chinese yet?

[knotty fiber]

New aerosion set

Not welkin

[knotty fiber]

https://ww.hakush.in/character/1409

Expect v3 for English

[neat robin]

Current aerosion on cia then?
Cuz cart wont need moonlit .?

[pure minnow]

I see thanks, gotta wait then

[knotty fiber]

Don't know

[neat robin]

Hm

[knotty fiber]

Have to see if welkin stacks with each other

[neat robin]

Well if thyia isnt using it

Aerover on rejuv

[knotty fiber]

Moonlit is still preferable even if there's atk

[neat robin]

Welkin on cia

Or welkin aerover, moonlit cia?

[knotty fiber]

Cuz it has resonance energy

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[neat robin]

I havent been rolling any 4cost cuz I havent known which one I need yet

But cr it is, on aerover

Any word on bloodpact refinements?

[knotty fiber]

I will just wait

[neat robin]

Lupa is kinda like changli?
Not really a true onfield dps

Or not hypercarry rather ig is better wording

[knotty fiber]

I'm pretty sure all 3 of them have about the same role in the comp

[neat robin]

So it really is just a fusion quickswap team

I hope I have enough to get lupa+sig as well

[knotty fiber]

I'm not sure if I even need aerover

I need to know if the aerosion immediate proc is strong

Because as it appears, I don't need aerover for max buff stack

S2 gives +3 stacks already and she only needs 6 aerosion stacks for max buff

[neat robin]

Aerover for s0 tho

Unless I whale

[knotty fiber]

Aerover is only there for bloodpact and outro

If outro isn't really strong then probably foregoable

[neat robin]

So considering only s0
No outro
Whats the max aerosion stack?

[knotty fiber]

3

She needs 6 for max buff

Rover gives +3 to cap

[neat robin]

So you do need aerover with s0 thyia

[knotty fiber]

Her dmg bonus needs 6

Last nuke buff needs 5

[neat robin]

I’m just comparing here
Rejuv is 10% atk (fallacy) + 15% atk (5pc)
Moonlit is 15% dmg (heron) + 22.5% atk (5pc)

[knotty fiber]

Why would you use fallacy

She doesn't use atk at all

[neat robin]

Bell only lasts if you arent getting hit

[knotty fiber]

If you compare you should go bellborne

lol

[knotty fiber]

Doesn't matter

[neat robin]

Just looking at them
15s buff from moonlit

[knotty fiber]

Why would you compare using something useless

[neat robin]

How long does cia last?

Well why do you need moonlit then? Its whole point is atk buff

[knotty fiber]

15% dmg bonus + 10 resonance energy

[neat robin]

Its basically 12% heron dmg buff in moonlit
Or 10% dmg turtle buff if rejuv
Neither 5pc matters?

[knotty fiber]

Dmg bonus is still dmg bonus

It does matter

[neat robin]

Both 5pc buff atk

[knotty fiber]

If you compare using fallacy then rejuv just loses out completely

lol

[neat robin]

Yeah but if you dont need atk
You dont need to build 5pc?

[knotty fiber]

If you want the extra dmg for aerover and chaconne then yes

If not then no

[neat robin]

cia has off field dmg + dot app right?

[knotty fiber]

Her off field is shit

She bursts right away

All of her dmg occurs when she's onfield

Off field is for app only

[neat robin]

So its only for aerover..

[knotty fiber]

If you use rejuv then both of them benefits from it

[neat robin]

Welkin cia > moonlit aerover > new set thyia for rot?

Like at least heron is unconditional dmg buff
But the 5pc outro is kinda wasted

[knotty fiber]

If you go by that you don't need 5/5 moonlit then

Just heron

Technically the best bet rn is that welkin can stack

[neat robin]

We can test once cia is out right?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

Using aerover pheeb chaconne

[neat robin]

I dont have phoeb to test so i’ll have to wait for others

[knotty fiber]

A week from now

I do so I will

Actually

You can test without pheeb

Cuz chaconne has frazz app too

Just switch back and forth to change mode

[neat robin]

Hm

So if it stacks the 3rd party member will have 30% aero bonus

Cia aerover would both get
45%?

I wonder if these illusive boxes will update with 2.4 set
Ive just been farming tuners & collecting these cuz I dont need anything atm

[winged belfry]

they were in 2.2 when GoW was introduced

So yeah I expect them to

[neat robin]

Oh perfect then

[winged belfry]

I have like 230

I always do 2x 120, once per week

[neat robin]

I dont really need any actual echos rn til I decide which sets for cia/aerover

[winged belfry]

I might to it 6 times per week now

[neat robin]

Okay my discord is broken rn I cant search for media

Lupa attacks are out too?

[knotty fiber]

#・wuwa-lounge message

[neat robin]

Sweet ty

I’m still unsure of her design but she def looks fun to use

[winged belfry]

there's a better showcase

[vapid river]

tell me what you know about this aero gauntlet user

reddit tells me nothing

[winged belfry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1jqgo3h/new_character_model_younuo/

[vapid river]

yeah that doesn't tell me anything

[neat robin]

Aero heavy outro pls goodbye mort

[vapid river]

^

ig it's too far out

for real info

can we pray for an s1 or s2 that buffs atk% on swap too

can we pray her weapon also buffs incoming resonator

praying she's not just a sidegrade

from a 4*

[winged belfry]

@neat robin https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1kne2il/lupa_gameplay/ here's a better showcase

[neat robin]

Ooh

[knotty fiber]

What a waste of destined death

She doesn't use it in combat

[rotund drum]

grrm probably threatend to sue

[tawdry pagoda]

Atm i feel like they just give random weapons to chars

Zani has gauntlets and uses a huge sword

[neat robin]

They do

[tawdry pagoda]

Broadblade users dont ever use broadblade

[neat robin]

Weapon class literally only restricts what you’re able to equip

[tawdry pagoda]

2 lances and one dragon

Phoebe uses staff

Sk uses butterflies

[knotty fiber]

pheeb does use her rectifier

but recently chars haven't been using their intended weapons at all

some of them have really good design

like that destined death above

such a waste

[neat robin]

1 more week…
char banner 37 pity, +35 pulls
weapon 18 pity, +18 pulls
And 81 pulls in astrites

[tawdry pagoda]

Idk when cartethyia comes 32 pity no wishes no asterites no life no job

[knotty fiber]

I haven't topped up my x2 yet

[tawdry pagoda]

I will surely have her

[knotty fiber]

and I have a friend willing to pay 8080 lunites for me

because I'm letting him pull my Thy

[tawdry pagoda]

Can I have that friend too

[knotty fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[neat robin]

Yeah I have x2 top up really dont wanna spend
I’m prob gonna go s0r1 cia thyia lupa

And any dupes on rerun

[tawdry pagoda]

Selfish

I am going all f2p

I whaled this patch

Got x7 5*

[neat robin]

Jeez

[knotty fiber]

I will do x2 anyway because I need funds for phrolova

[winged belfry]

have you cleared all events?

[neat robin]

Yeah just this derby thing

And the 10 pull in a week

[tawdry pagoda]

Zani, her wep, phoebe, her wep, x2 calculator, standard sword

[neat robin]

Oh I do have the nightmarket pulls

Once I do my cia pulls

So 8 more there

[winged belfry]

If you have some exploration left that will help as well

[neat robin]

No

I’m on guaranteed btw

So I only need a max of 160
At 53 total pity

[winged belfry]

oh, then you'll get Ciaoconna + Carther + Carthe R1 no problem

[neat robin]

Like I already got my cia + more

[knotty fiber]

I got bored and tried pulling zhezhi

got her and I regretted pulling

[neat robin]

Its more idk about lupa

[knotty fiber]

I have literally no use for her

[winged belfry]

early?

[knotty fiber]

no

80

or more like 70+

[neat robin]

You use quickswap hsi and lotta teams right?

[knotty fiber]

yes

I hate her handfeel

she doesn't fit for my style

[winged belfry]

I like Zhezhi

[knotty fiber]

and she is not that good in whimwa

which is half of the game rn

[rapid dew]

zhezhi ugly

[knotty fiber]

I wish I could refund

[winged belfry]

I remember her being really good in Illusive Realm

old Illusive realm

that was super fun

[neat robin]

Lotta ZZ does fine in whimwa
But I dont think with s0 lotta

[winged belfry]

even Baizhi was fun in old Illusive Realm

[neat robin]

Baizhi turtle ye

[winged belfry]

Weekly is better than nothing

but still doesn't fully feel the same

[knotty fiber]

huh

interesting

my 2nd try

I did first try yesterday

I was lazy to pick a 2nd team

[dusty crown]

what in the hell is that first half team

[knotty fiber]

first time seeing that?

[dusty crown]

yes

[winged belfry]

it's called quickswap

There are plenty of teams like that

And if you are good, these teams are really good

and if you are bad, these teams are much worse than classic hypercarry ones

[dusty crown]

yeah i know qs is good if you play them perfectly, it's just hsi that seems weird in there lel

though i guess you don't super high forte to delete an entire wave

and she can use that fairly often

[winged belfry]

why? either Jinhsi or Carlotta are best picks for Changli + XLY QS core

[dusty crown]

i associate hsi to coords

i've seen xy/changli + verina + hsi teams before

(not that i'm supppeeeer into qs to start with because it's impossible to play on a controller)

[neat robin]

xy cal teams are scary

If you wanna play a sweaty team

[rotund drum]

why are they doing a card game

did they think people wanted more of genshit's triple triad knockoff

"boss our sales are dropping again after everyone realized that we're just splitting kits into two different chars so we can scam people twice"

[knotty fiber]

she is way better than klt in whimwa

lol

[rotund drum]

"fuck is there anything we havent ripped off from genshin yet"

[knotty fiber]

even without coord

[rotund drum]

"maybe that card game"

[knotty fiber]

because her dmg is plenty big without coord boost

[rotund drum]

clt is fine as long as you bring roccia so she can nuke all the mobs at once

[dusty crown]

makes sense since it's in waves and not bosses yeah

[lucid pebble]

Do we have Carty's reso chain?

[dusty crown]

in CN on hakushin

[lucid pebble]

[rotund drum]

carly

[lucid pebble]

What's the normal max erosion limit?

[vapid river]

i think 107 said it earlier

3 at base, +3 with aerover, +3 with a sequence?

i could be misremembering

[rotund drum]

its kinda hard to tell cause her %s look buggy on hakushit but her stand mode attacks dont actually look that good

their mvs are low and they dont count as erosion damage so they dont get chaccone amp

i guess they expect you to just build her ult as fast as possible and do the big nuke and swap out

which is probably why they added a wway to disable it manually

then again im also assuming her plunge attack isnt actually 42 x 4% hp scaling because that would be nuts

[neat robin]

Can we even track the rocks?

[rotund drum]

you get like 10x as much hp as attack so that would be like a 1600% scaling atk

[lucid pebble]

They're all erosion damage, bront.

[rotund drum]

thats her normal mode NA

her ult mode NA doesnt say its erosion damage

[dusty crown]

so it's erosion in her carte forme but not his fleur de lys form?

[rotund drum]

thats what it looks like

at least based on the descriptions

[dusty crown]

yay

this is the greatest event ever

[tired zodiac]

This is... This is peak....

They solved my only issue

[dusty crown]

damn that's like the skeeper thing

but on crack

[tired zodiac]

This solves the issue where brant would miss his anchor if enemy hits you

[dusty crown]

since skeeper only allows you to avoid losing too much time

oh

i don't play brant i was only thinking of this as an unskilled dodger

[tired zodiac]

Also where changli might lose her forte on conquest(rare but happens sometimes)

[tired zodiac]

I mean , outside of it the uses are probably less. Coz most of the time, the dodging aint required if you have a healer

[outer jetty]

You are not mean to play all of Anchor anims, just swap out of it ASAP and he become invincible. If you let it play it become prone to knock over.

[tired zodiac]

You miss a lot of damage bonus on the anchor if you swap him out

[dusty crown]

the real endgame is holograms

😭

[tired zodiac]

It's like a difference of 140k and 230k

Assuming sk

In every qs I've seen they don't switch him

They let him fall

[tired zodiac]

Sk is probably better in this case coz free revive once

[outer jetty]

I use Verina particularly and in his kit there is nothing saying his buff will end when switch out.
If you use Sanhua then of course the buff gonna end.

In a quickswap Brant + Changli

[tired zodiac]

It doesn't need to say

When a character switches out they lose their buff

It's common for all characters I believe

I'm logging in just to check this

Wait it's wrong

there

[vapid river]

you still miss the anchor i'd wager a guess. it just treats you as dodging the hit. not that you ignore all damage and continue doing what you do, no?

[tired zodiac]

lemme read again

[vapid river]

you just get out of the "being hit state" and the game treats you as having dodged

you still "get hit"

but not really

[tired zodiac]

it says you will automatically get out of the state of being hit/knocked away. aka, you get hit but your actions wont be removed

[vapid river]

i'd have to see it in action to know

it doesn't say anything about prior actions happening or not

that's an assumption i'd rather not make

or tell people with confidence

that "aka" is your own interpretation on what it means

[tired zodiac]

I mean, brant loses his anchor because he gets knocked away. If the action of being knocked away is not there

[vapid river]

and it could be that way

that'd be nice

but i'm not going to assume that, not w/o gameplay to back it up

[tired zodiac]

alr

[vapid river]

klee it treats you as having dodged

if you dodge during the animation

it goes away

right?

so you still lose it

ig idk if it goes away if you dodge

or if you can dodge out of the animation

but i'm guessing you can?

[neat robin]

Isnt there
Auto dodge somewhere from another mode
Idk I feel like it was a thing maybe old illusive or something

[outer jetty]

Just tested Brant Aflame ER > ATK buff. It still up even after switching out

[vapid river]

ig it depends on if the animation is dodge cancelable

[neat robin]

You lose outro buff

[vapid river]

there might be but i still wouldn't treat them as the same unless you had verbiage from kuro about how it worked

[outer jetty]

That I know

[vapid river]

cuz all it says is

if characters in the team are in the state of being hit or knocked away
automatically get out of the state of being hit or knocked away
be considered to have successfully dodged

[neat robin]

This is sk’s
But is also official translation

[tired zodiac]

No it treats you as if you are not being knocked over.
It shouldnt show the dodge animation. it is considered a dodge.
Look at sk. it says if you dodge it will immediately recover you out of it. You still have to dodge. In the case of lupa it says, whatever youre being hit on will not be considered a hit for 3 times. It will deal damage to your character but you wont be interupted from what youre doing.
But yeah, we should wait for accurate english translation

[vapid river]

it shouldn't show the dodge animation

[tired zodiac]

what about crit buff from sk and outro buff from changli?

[vapid river]

is still an assumption

b/c you're looking at it in the most optimistic way possible

it also doesn't mention being interupted or not

[neat robin]

‘Considered a successful dodge’ would imply you still dodged
Zero dmg but interupted attack

You should be able to trigger dodge counter off lupa passive there

[vapid river]

idt "showing the animation" or not matters here, the game will automatically judge you as having dodged

[tired zodiac]

because it doesnt say, "if your character gets hit, your character dodges automatically" instead of "if your character gets hit, it wont be considered as being hit(aka interuption)"

[vapid river]

and whether or not the anchor would still go through depends entirely on how kuro has it coded

stop with the interuptions

klee

there are attacks

[tired zodiac]

I think its zero interuption but you get dealt dmg

[vapid river]

that don't interupt you

from mobs

yuou know that right?

[tired zodiac]

yes

[vapid river]

that's why that distinction does exist

[neat robin]

Find the cn translation and somebody you trust knows both languages to translate it to
And not a random en version

[vapid river]

in some sequences

[neat robin]

Cuz I dont trust a lot of early en wording

[tired zodiac]

yeah you have to wait till en translation

[vapid river]

the text you shared mentions nothing about not being interupted

[tired zodiac]

[vapid river]

natc could do it

he's fluent in both

[outer jetty]

Outro buff obviously gonna end and SK Stellarealm mention all party member got crit buff.

[tired zodiac]

[vapid river]

in a perfect world you'd just get to keep going with your animation klee and that would be pretty cool

[tired zodiac]

should i tag nat

[vapid river]

but the ability doesn't say that explicitly

so why believe that it does?

😭

[neat robin]

Do you have the original cn text?

[vapid river]

i mean, i'm not going to ask him

idgaf about lupa

also it's beta info from day 1

[neat robin]

I’m pretty sure its mostly meant so you can stay midair without being tossed to the ground

[vapid river]

who knows what it'll be in 2 months

[neat robin]

All 3 of them like staying in air

[vapid river]

as it's written there right now, what klee shared, it does these things

>if characters in the team are in the state of being hit or knocked away

>automatically get out of the state of being hit or knocked away

>be considered to have successfully dodged

oh weird

i wonder if the > fucks that up

scammed

there we go

[tired zodiac]

Its this part which confuses me.
If it is just a consideration then it means you dont dodge but it just considers you do

[neat robin]

Whatbare you doing

[vapid river]

trying to make it large

so klee reads it

[neat robin]

A successful dodge means a dodge without hitting the damn dodge button

[vapid river]

and sees that nothing about interuption is mentioned

yeah the game considers you to have dodged

[neat robin]

Congrats you auto dodged now dodge counter and keep attacking

[vapid river]

that's why i'm saying there exists a possibility where the animation does happen

but i'm not going to say with my full chest

that it does

[neat robin]

I would doubt it

[vapid river]

so would i

but it doesn't explicitly describe what happens in the event of animations