・wuwa-lounge

[knotty fiber]

do you know why she has 2 dots?

Aerover.

[neat robin]

Aero heavy something leaked for 2.6

[knotty fiber]

not Ciaccona

[neat robin]

Thyia you mean?

[knotty fiber]

Ciaccona applies Frazz

Aerover converts Frazz to Aerosion

[neat robin]

Cia aerover thyia
Pls

[knotty fiber]

and the woman use the stacks

[neat robin]

Also wheres the rest of our blood sword refines 😔
I heard 1st refinement with anni?

[knotty fiber]

idk

[outer jetty]

I guess Carthetiya damage gonna scale with Aerosion dmg and its bonus.

[frozen drum]

Thyia will make dot crit

trust

and make the dmg scales from thyia stats

[tired zodiac]

wait didnt see lose this crown?

why is it back?

[frozen drum]

she can put it on or back

[tired zodiac]

oh nvm

[frozen drum]

you can chat w her again after the dialogue

[tired zodiac]

lol

[frozen drum]

[knotty fiber]

quite fun

[tired zodiac]

but doesnt that mean she is still tied to the threnodian?

[neat robin]

No

She keeps it as a reminder

[frozen drum]

yeah

it doesnt have the threnodian power anymore

[neat robin]

I hear phoebe rerun with zani
Would be funny

They did rerun yinlin hella fast so maybe

[frozen drum]

they pair very well so maybe

[knotty fiber]

not "very well"

but you might as well not pull Zani without pheeb

unless you like her as a character and only pull for collection

[tired zodiac]

could be zani and then pheobe + cacionna

[knotty fiber]

[tired zodiac]

I want zani and thiya

so i will skip pheobe once more

[frozen drum]

i will s2 cia

im desperate to slot out mort

[knotty fiber]

guess what

it will still be weaker than 38% amp

[frozen drum]

kuro take that ugly half dragon away

[knotty fiber]

oh damn ppl hate him so much

great

I like him now

[frozen drum]

[tired zodiac]

lmao

hes alright

[knotty fiber]

S0 has 24% aero boost
S2 has 40% aero boost
R1 has 12% res reduction

so it's something

you might wanna hope that her personal dmg is enough to make up for it

[frozen drum]

does cia actually do damage anyway

[knotty fiber]

maybe she's better than Mort in Whimwa

maybe not

Idk if her ult is aoe or st

[frozen drum]

i only heard erosion and people flabbergasted how she has frazzle as well

[knotty fiber]

I'm not surprised

she has frazzle purely for aerover to convert it

unless they're cooking something else down the line

[frozen drum]

should be aoe cause its the circle thing dunno the range

thyia dual element real

they release so much spectro 5* but none of em are 4*

[knotty fiber]

you're basically asking for a 4th spectro dps and 5th spectro 5*

[frozen drum]

thats what kuro want instead of a HA+Aero Deepen

[knotty fiber]

never

[neat robin]

Pls

She has a 3d model now

[frozen drum]

manifesting my copium

[knotty fiber]

Huh

Looking at the comps rn

It looks like spectro frazzle is the most broken whale comp atm

[knotty fiber]

https://streamable.com/lbi8fj

[vapid river]

when you have the ability to animate w/e you want

[outer jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1316155486034198605/1357620371641339925/Phoebe-Zani-Ciaccona.mp4?ex=67f0ddff&is=67ef8c7f&hm=4c6421ed32942f93cffb233b8c94750cc54c385ac0e3d3bafaba0afdd90e44ae&

[tired zodiac]

Peak

I cried a lil

[tired zodiac]

Is the mv not set yet?

[outer jetty]

Still require fixing I guess

[neat robin]

Now to wait for aero dot

I dont mind the crazy numbers when ya talk whale investment ngl
As long as game stays designed for base level comps

[lyric fjord]

What's up with the ui in the video? Dots are not ticking down

And phoebe's application is off. Maybe specifics of that hologram if it is one

[neat robin]

Cus its beta ig

Other clips ive seen cia/zani dont actually use up energy to ult yet either

[burnt shoal]

fibi so op

woa achievement

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-wuthering-waves-jinhsi-e-verina-gif-1698230601711698912

[neat robin]

Yay

[vapid river]

fuego

[neat robin]

2nd stage is horrible
She was at 2k hp the entire time

Gotta wait for tomorrow to go higher than 18

[knotty fiber]

The highest you can go rn is 24

[neat robin]

18 for me
11 hrs til 2nd batch of challenges in na

[knotty fiber]

Go check again

It's the same for every server

[neat robin]

??

Both of them are maxed j cant add more stress

[knotty fiber]

your 3* stress where?

[knotty fiber]

see, didn't pick the top 2

lmao

[neat robin]

Ohh when those unlock?
The first run I had them all checked off

Oops

[knotty fiber]

not available on first run

but second run unlocks it

[neat robin]

I seeee

Gonna brute force it with lotta again

[knotty fiber]

tbf I almost forgot to pick them too until I checked again

the last modules are juist

[lyric fjord]

"When Zani is in the team when nearby party members apply Spectro Frazzle to a target, immediately account for the DMG of all stacks and convert it into a similar stack count of Solar Ember. Every time this conversion happens, Zani will obtain a corresponding amount of Scorching Light. Solar Ember is seen as Spectro Frazzle stacks and can trigger the effect of Eternal Radiance."

I wonder if they'll make it possible to make the converted dmg crit, would be nice to make confession phoebe actually make use of her set this way

[neat robin]

I need free cia so I can pull for zani

[knotty fiber]

pheeb's confession is alr in use

her (Zani) EHAs and outro are considered spectro frazzle dmg

[lyric fjord]

sorry there is a misunderstanding

what i mean is that the effect mentioned above will either do one of the following:

1. Add a new line of dmg when an attack adds spectro frazzle on an ennemy, which is just the sum of the dmg it should have done over time
2. Add the dmg the SF should have done over time to the dmg of the attack applying it, potentially before crit, making it possible to make the SF dmg crit

Scenario 2) would make it worthwhile to invest in good echoes for a confession phoebe

There is also possibility 3 :
The Solar Ember is just a special SF that behaves exactly the same way, ticks down like normal SF and the "immediately account for the dmg of all stacks" just means that the Solar Ember does exactly the dmg the SF was supposed to do

which is the most likely but very boring

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

I dont like phoebe but I do want zani

Too broke oh well

[opaque flume]

Meow

Meow meow

Meow

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sousou-no-frieren-anime-warm-campfire-gif-16192143661019154751

Who should I get guys

[lyric fjord]

either phrolova, zani or carthetya. Chose one then pull their weapons and supports. If you want multiple, you'll have to sacrifice some stuff

[neat robin]

*if you have cantarella, phrolova

Though I’m sure they’ll rerun canta pretty soon around phro release too like phoebe + zani

So whats cia sig do again?
Its 24% atk (so 12 at r1)
40% ?
24% ?
20.. seconds?

Is this aerosion shred and dmg boost? Like what zanis does for frazzle

[opaque flume]

Interesting

[lyric fjord]

Attacks increased by 12%. When adding the "wind erosion effect" to the target, the addition of its own pneumatic damage is increased by 20% for 10 seconds. When attacking an enemy with a wind erosion effect, reduce the other side's aerodynamic resistance by 12% for 20 seconds.

(automatic translation)

[neat robin]

It shreds all aero res
Or specifically only for aerosion dmg?

[lyric fjord]

i read aero res last time i saw it on the /r

[neat robin]

Hmmm

Shred tends to be a lil better than atk buff?
Wondering specifically in jiyans case

static buff or cia sig shred

[knotty fiber]

R1
12% atk
When inflicting Aerosion, increase own Aero dmg by 20% for 10s
When hitting enemies with Aerosion, reduce their Aero res by 12%, lasts for 20s

Not the first time we talked about this here

You were there

[neat robin]

I wasnt paying attention

Ive only actually read zanis

Idk I’ll prob try to get her sig

See how many pulls we can earn in 2.3

[winged belfry]

Probably a lot

[neat robin]

Any idea on cia build?
Moonlit?
Does she do coords with ult for emyprean, or is it only dot app/one time dmg?

Ive seen so many zani gameplay clips but none with cia off field in a fight
Just the animation videos

[winged belfry]

Ciaconna? Probably gusts of welkin

It doesn't say that same effects cannot stack

[dusty crown]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1jr6mxy/zani_ciaccona_vs_fleurdelys_via_jinhsi_leaks/

[neat robin]

Hmm

[dusty crown]

isn't it specifically written in the kit when it's coordinated attacks?

[winged belfry]

What?

[neat robin]

I can see aerosion dmg ticks there

[knotty fiber]

No

No coord

[dusty crown]

what what

[neat robin]

I’m gonna assume its just dot dmg

[winged belfry]

Oh, he was asking for empyrean

[neat robin]

So she sings and maintains dot amount?
Or is this just beta thing where dots arent ticking down

[winged belfry]

Empyrean is no go for Ciaconna

[dusty crown]

yeah

[knotty fiber]

It's not dot either? It's her ult autopilot

[winged belfry]

She sings and gives DoT +100% buff on outro

[neat robin]

No I mean the aero dmg in the clip
Thats the aerosion isnt it?

Its not cias own dmg

[winged belfry]

She applies some Aero erosion

[knotty fiber]

A lot

[neat robin]

Mm I dont really want to farm 2 sets of gust

But if they stack that’ll be god

[knotty fiber]

No stacking

Why would Ciaccona use gust

She can't use Fleurdelys

Or rather she can? But weaker effect

[neat robin]

Rejuv aerover
Moonlit cia
Gust thyia?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[neat robin]

So no gust set on aerover either

Ok

Do I even have aero moonlit shit
Probably not

[winged belfry]

Like WTF man

What's the difference between farming two sets and one set

You'll farm it in same place

At the same time

[neat robin]

I’m just annoyed at my pile of useless havoc set echos

[winged belfry]

You'll gear one characters and second will get the leftovers pieces

It's not that hard

Don't overcomplicate it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TBGVmuGFwLtluxvdjetQAyRKx9ywljtjkgHE_AEebYc/htmlview

[neat robin]

107 said they dont stack

[knotty fiber]

Tbh

Idk if moonlit and rejuv will be good

Because there's a susleak recently saying atk is almost useless on her

And yk
Atk is those 2's main gimmick

So I will have to wait

[neat robin]

I mean I’m building rejuv aerover anyways for jiyan

Its gonna take forever for r5 bloodpact but eventually

[knotty fiber]

If you consider how long it took to S6 HRover

[neat robin]

I can just give cia this gust set til thyia leaks start dropping

[neat robin]

Its gonna be sad funny if they make her hp/def scaling dps

Aerover and cia and gust set is all about aero dmg bonus too
They dont give atk

[lyric fjord]

i just noticed, zani's outro looks crazy good wtf

we can see it on the side in the clip against fleurdelys

[outer jetty]

Ciaconna song stuck in my head help

[outer jetty]

Static mist hope for cia will be lost

Make new 4* for sierra gale when

[winged belfry]

relax, it's only 10% ATK

[lyric fjord]

oh hakushin got updated with ciaconna's mvs

[knotty fiber]

hakushin has always had ciaccona's mvs

just not Zani

[winged belfry]

https://wuthering.wiki/cn/character_1507.html

that's Zani's kit, in CN, of course, and with MVs, and damage types

[knotty fiber]

hakushin has those too

they just

don't specify the dmg type

just abcdefgh

it's hard to tell which one is which considering she has multiple instances of that one type

plus there are numbers affected by sequences too

we've only been playing guessing game

[lyric fjord]

oh mb then sry

[tired zodiac]

seems like she needs basic and heavy

[burnt shoal]

only explored for 50% maybe can't do 80% rip

rip why do people ask in survey for wuwa to copy genshin feature like this

is the same too u need 80% exploration for 400 primogems and it's limited time too

[knotty fiber]

Genshit got it as part of the intended patch income (it doesn't change)

We got this as additional

Also

Come on you can't be serious

The exploration in this game doesn't get any easier

[robust axle]

isnt the lootmapper like

infinite use

[neat robin]

Yeah and you can do the dream patrols and palatte challenges for it to

I got 80% only following the ingame map exploration tracker

[knotty fiber]

In the map UI

There's a list of what you need to do to get "100%"

Just click on every single one of them

The game will lead you there

[neat robin]

Its 100% but doesnt include random chests

[knotty fiber]

Yeah

That's why "100%"

It's for the milestones

Like come on you can do it even with 1 braincell

Unlike genshit's sloppy ass exploration

[neat robin]

I think the only bad thing with the floating city is echo farming
Flying around to all the little islands for the 1/4 drop rate or whatever

[neat robin]

Brant mdps was painful (just slow af, not difficult)

[neat robin]

Mmm cia uses dirge mats
I can try and get a good 4cost for brant while farming for her

[edgy cobalt]

babel is easy as expected just sentry being annoying for carlotta mains

[knotty fiber]

well duh it's glacio res

meanwhile Jinhsi main just dgaf

wait what

I didn't know you could do this

fixed

it took a lot longer to use Hsi than Klt against doragon but yeah this looks gewd

[neat robin]

Ive concluded after doing the whole event with bloom on, that bloom sucks and I hate it

It makes good photos but bad gameplay

[knotty fiber]

I had to turn it off for rider because the effects suck there

everything else gucci

[neat robin]

Rider is always a pain

Though we can adjust a lot of graphic appearance now maybe I just have a bad setup for bloom on
It makes effects blinding too much

[knotty fiber]

eww

what

[neat robin]

Good video

[knotty fiber]

I changed to another settings so I could record a lighter video

yep the settings was fucking matroska

watch this ig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH1fLA7Rjaw

idk what is considered too blinding for you but it's just right for me

[neat robin]

I get flashbanged by effects 😭

Cant see anything happening

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

Lemme see this video

Yeah idk it seems fine in there

[neat robin]

Do you have brightness/saturation settings?

[knotty fiber]

would be nice if mobile has the access to this

[neat robin]

Yeah nothing that fancy 😔

[knotty fiber]

you can change it so that it doesn't look too bright but still pretty

[neat robin]

I dont really wanna turn down settings too much
Then the world looks dull

This is higher saturation/contrast without bloom

[knotty fiber]

oh yeah if you use high contrast then it would look blinding

[neat robin]

I turn it down with bloom on

I need like
A bloom slider 😭

Halfway between what they consider off and on would be perfect

[lyric fjord]

damn this event is fun

[neat robin]

Hmmm this looks fine-ish
I lowered settings, went and had supper
Just looks… faded
I could turn light down maybe? Would be pitch black at night tho hm

[lilac hare]

Who would ciaccona be good with?

Ngl I don’t know what she does I remember reading she’s a sub dps

[knotty fiber]

Cartethyia

[cobalt apex]

how good is she

[lyric fjord]

good for phoebe too in whiwa

makes her actually playable there, which is great since she has huge aoe

[knotty fiber]

from a sub dps standpoint

probably not too impressive

but from an aerosion support

holy hell she strong

applies a lot of aerosion

and a lot of frazzle during ult

the normal quickswapping gameplay doesn't work for her tho

have to cook something else

nevertheless, she has an enormous amount of concerto recovery from what I have seen

[neat robin]

I’m glad shes not quickswap

Its so difficult on mobile

[knotty fiber]

oh she is kinda quickswap outside of ult though

or at least

cancelling

[neat robin]

Cancelling is fine

The actual spamming taps to swap attack, swap attack etc is just bad for mobile

[knotty fiber]

this is when you know you should get a gamepad

[neat robin]

Uh oh new cal creep?
Electro blade around 2.6

[neat robin]

Realistically I could prob just rearrange my hud to have swap & attack buttons next to each other

I should practice

Quickswap attempt in whimwa was like 1/3 of my camys score and she was only ~3.5k (no roccia)

[dapper oar]

as long as she's not changli I'm ok

[knotty fiber]

oh man then I wish Thy will be Changli 2

[cobalt apex]

man i want THy

[dapper oar]

I'm not the type to tryhard since i always use the highest graphic i just wanna look pretty when fighting

[neat robin]

I dont I wanna actually see her

[spice finch]

Whats 4* echo for zani?

[lyric fjord]

nightmare mourning aix

the only question, which will only be answered when her banner comes since it can change before that, is if capitaneus is the main slot or the Aix is

[knotty fiber]

Can go cap

[tired zodiac]

You can see her when she ults

[neat robin]

We literally have no info on thyia yet

[tired zodiac]

I mean

All characters ult shows them

So

[spice finch]

Why capitaneus?

[tired zodiac]

Yup capitanus is

Aix only gives you 15% spectro

[neat robin]

Cap has 2 passive stat+
nm aix is just 1

[lyric fjord]

12

[tired zodiac]

Oh ye

[neat robin]

Cap is 12 spec 12 heavy

[lyric fjord]

aix hits harder though and in a bigger aoe

[tired zodiac]

Cap gives you sprctro and havoc

[lyric fjord]

no

[tired zodiac]

BEUH

[neat robin]

Cap in main slot, nnm aix in the other

[tired zodiac]

HEAVY

[lyric fjord]

yes

[tired zodiac]

SPECTRO AND HEAVY

I was reading two texts at a time mb

[spice finch]

Ok thanks

[knotty fiber]

Why would you not know that you will see her in her ult

literally char

[neat robin]

I mean gameplay

[cobalt apex]

seeing her on ult is enough

shes pretty

[neat robin]

1s of ult wow

[knotty fiber]

Which char has only 1s ult

Other than 4*

[neat robin]

Yall know what I mean

[knotty fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[neat robin]

Realistically if thyia is aerosion based she wont be quickswap anyways
You wont be swapping into cia when shes singing

[knotty fiber]

Aerover is a thing

[neat robin]

Maybe if you wanna do thyia aerover qs but you’re limited to swap timer cuz its just 2 chars

Its not gonna be fast as triple dps swap

[knotty fiber]

Not as fast doesn't mean not the more favourable option

[neat robin]

What aerover attacks can be swapped off anyways?
Has anyone tested that

[knotty fiber]

Rather, it's better for the skill issues

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[lyric fjord]

aerover's forte skill can be swapped off no?

[knotty fiber]

And it doesn't have to be fully cancellable to qs

Because the point of qs is you utilizing casting time to push the rot

You'll gain extra concerto when swapping to rover

Also there's something I need to test for Chaconne

[neat robin]

I dont mind duel dps
But the super fast quickswap like xy/changli/hsi ?? Dont want thyia to be like that

[knotty fiber]

You realize that all of them can choose to be a sleeper right?

There's no issue with choosing to play like a sleeper with Thy

Why would she not have the ability to qs just because you don't like it

Even Changli can sleeper now cuz of Brant

[neat robin]

I dont want her designed to be quickswap

[knotty fiber]

And I miss the part where that's our problem

Also

Since when qs means you can't see your character

[cobalt apex]

107 skeeper doesnt need sig right

[knotty fiber]

Yuh huh

No need at all

[cobalt apex]

nice its just that

i only have 1 variation on my account

🔥

[neat robin]

When the screen is literally full of animations?
Shes stunning she deserves field time

[knotty fiber]

Again

[knotty fiber]

[cobalt apex]

https://x.com/Dino_illus/status/1906384910459285515 she's stunning yes

Dino (@Dino_illus) on X

cartethyia

X · Mar 30, 2025, 4:35 PM

[neat robin]

Hopefully it runs again soon

[knotty fiber]

See the thing is the more diverse a character the better they are

If she's stunning and she's designed to not be qs-able just because of the skill issues

She's trash

Like cameme

And Jiyan

[neat robin]

It took forever for me to get a 2nd copy cuz I refined the first (before we knew anything about whimwa/dual team)

[knotty fiber]

For me I only use 1 variation most of the time

[cobalt apex]

i never even have a 2nd copy

[knotty fiber]

Because 3dps is fun as hell

[cobalt apex]

if i had enough chars sure

[knotty fiber]

Ah yes

100% loss rate

[cobalt apex]

istg if it continues with skeeper

[knotty fiber]

Dude even missed free Yaoi

[cobalt apex]

my account was never this bricked in any game ive played

[neat robin]

No as I said idc if she can quickswap, that’d still be nice
I dont want her designed specifically for a qs team only

Like sorry but trying to onfield changli without cancels is ew

[knotty fiber]

See, the issue is no limited has ever been like that

[neat robin]

Dont do that to thyia

[knotty fiber]

Not even Pheeb

[knotty fiber]

Literally none that is limited to qs

What's your problem

[knotty fiber]

Qs changli is not that different compared to qs when you pair her with Brant

Ofc, only when she has the outro buff

[cobalt apex]

also do u think my best move rn is to just get skeeper ciaccona and thy

[knotty fiber]

Yolo SK

[cobalt apex]

i love thy as much as u do

[knotty fiber]

Then you know what to do alr

[cobalt apex]

true

[knotty fiber]

Why are you asking me

[lilac hare]

What set does zani want? Same as phoebe’s? With crit/spectro/spectro/atk/atk?

[knotty fiber]

Zani uses radiance

Pheeb uses Moonlit if you don't care about doubling

Radiance/Celestial if you play both Confession and Absolution

[neat robin]

I’m wondering if I should pause the gust farming after 1 set is done
Until we start getting 2.4 leaks

[lyric fjord]

can the buff stack?

[neat robin]

More like
Is someone using rejuv or moonlit (or both) for thyia team

[lyric fjord]

cia in moonlit, since she can't be swapped back anyway ; rejuv on aerover, gale on shopping kart

[vapid river]

is it time to build an emp set for zz

[opaque flume]

Ngl when are the new characters coming out

I’m waiting bro (hasn’t done any of the content from 2.2)

[vapid river]

some days i wish you'd lose the ability to breath

[opaque flume]

Hater

[tired zodiac]

I mean, it's Zani it's understandable

[barren drift]

oomg so same bestie

[opaque flume]

i just stared it

started

its peak

genuinely good cinematography ngl

playing on lower settings cause someone stole my charger

still peak tho

[barren drift]

[knotty fiber]

somehow

I made a couple secs improvement

but mephis is still ass because of the teleport

[burnt shoal]

omg just saw this online

[cobalt apex]

real shit

[knotty fiber]

2.3 beta: You can now choose to respawn open world bosses IMMEDIATELY

No more 2mins cooldown

[cobalt apex]

holy peak

but also

wtf was the point

[knotty fiber]

It's for me

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

I need to farm a large amount of overlords

But I need to abuse the pity because of the cooldown

[cobalt apex]

same

[knotty fiber]

Now without cooldown, I don't have to tp anywhere anymore

Don't haVe to wait

And I can now use the x1.5 rate for overlords

[cobalt apex]

i remember rotating between 3 bosses to abuse pity back in 1.x

💀

[knotty fiber]

It's a huge change

[knotty fiber]

Have you ever got fucked by 20-80 5 times in a row

See
No more of that shit

[cobalt apex]

i wish they made farming 1 cost better tho

they spawn so scarcely and one type has so many sets its a pain in the ass to farm

[delicate skiff]

And Tacets give more 3 costs than 1 costs (at least for me)

[uneven flame]

Same. 1c are a pain

This change makes 4c much easier to farm

[delicate skiff]

Yeah, I love that change

Wonder if this will work for nightmares, too

They don't have the drop, no?

[uneven flame]

They don't have a drop besides their echo. I would hope Kuro would have the foresight to include them

[delicate skiff]

[knotty fiber]

Hopefully

The respawn option is in the remnant crystal so they gotta somehow

Maybe immediate respawn

[burnt shoal]

omg like genshin?

[vapid river]

yeah only it didn't take 3 years

[lyric fjord]

More like 5

[dusty crown]

Honestly I don't understand why leveling up the data bank doesn't affect both this rate and the number of guaranteed drops

It's just been stagnant with no changes for a while even though we get new echos 😦

[cobalt apex]

would be too easy yk

[cobalt apex]

it hasnt changed since 1.1

i was omega hyped when i saw the 1.1 rate

and then never see it again

[thorn brook]

This is sexier than any woman

[dusty crown]

Base drop rate should increase to 25% at level 25 but I assume it won't

And I am hoping to see the enhanced drop rate limit go up slowly but gradually too.

[burnt shoal]

https://vxtwitter.com/wuwaguy/status/1909184151242022959 woa removed boss cooldown

RinasCita (@[e-mail])

Update 2.3 beta (Source: TeamGemberry78)

1. After you claim the rewards, the boss will refresh immediately without waiting
2. Re-challenge without claiming rewards
3. The removed the 2min refresh cooldown

#WutheringWaves #WuWa #鳴潮
#WuWaCollection #WuWaLeaks https://t.co/akVWUKsvE1

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 7, 2025, 9:59 AM

[neat robin]

Perfect

[tired zodiac]

Finally nm farming

[neat robin]

I needed this
nm crownless & monkey, dirge dragon still needs double crit

[tired zodiac]

i need a better inferno

for changli

i have double crit but its 6 and 15

[neat robin]

I could farm nm inferno

But ew

My single crit 4costs need fixing first

[lyric fjord]

Nm inferno is much better tho...

[neat robin]

Normal inferno with double crit is also better than having shit 4costs on my other dps

More cia and zani anims

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1jtgnkd/some_more_ciaccona_gameplay_via_seele_leaks/

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1jtgo17/some_more_zani_gameplay_via_seele_leaks/

[tired zodiac]

i love her animations after ult

[neat robin]

bye

[edgy cobalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1343637322461216920/1358861467889438861/GnwiB1hbMAAXixy.png?ex=67f561dc&is=67f4105c&hm=6553d83e630c6cb6bf9c3ac1ea23035cdc3cd44183eeeafc78e8670611831235&

[neat robin]

Loll

[lucid pebble]

Auto-respawn 3* jobbers wen?

[vapid river]

Never

Just get friends and steal theirs

[lucid pebble]

[lyric fjord]

i regret not tryharding the prior Whiwa, i'll be getting the title 1 month later than everyone

[neat robin]

I dont think it counted previous ones

Does it? We’d have more than just 1 tower count

Would be done the 10 by now actually, cuz it was resetting 2x a month for almost a year

[vapid river]

What if we spent the first month rerolling accounts though idt I even did the first tower

[edgy cobalt]

the 120 is from the max stress you've achieved in the babel mode

[vapid river]

Oh

[edgy cobalt]

not toa or whiwa, so anyone can get it if they have decent hands/eyes and builds

[neat robin]

Or are just willing to spend like 10 mins a fight with the trial chars

[edgy cobalt]

with sentry then sure

they made the mode way easier than beta so clt can just sweep in one minute without knowing what the debuffs are

[lyric fjord]

the enemies don't have their usual resistances? i assumed sentry would have glacio resist

[edgy cobalt]

I ran jhsi against sentry, clt would actually take me 10 minutes

[neat robin]

No that trial brant is actually so ass

[vapid river]

Idt my lotta cares about res

Unless it's like 80%

[opaque flume]

Ok but you are a WHALE

[vapid river]

I spend my disposable income on gacha games bc I don't do drugs anymore

Happens

[opaque flume]

Whale

Also you didn’t respond to my question blade

[vapid river]

You asked a question?

[opaque flume]

Ya check pings

[vapid river]

Oh about glazing meat

Idk use honey or some shit for your ham

[dusty crown]

i decided to roll with... ... .... .... . . . .. . . .....

fibi

[opaque flume]

This is like mediocrely glazed

Idk

[dusty crown]

💀

took me indeed like 10 minutes

[vapid river]

Just learn to toss your shit better in the pan

[dusty crown]

because i did NOT read the debuffs

[vapid river]

Looks fine minus the fact that it's pork

Bro my mom cooked a lot when I was younger and she's German

I ate pork like 4/7 days of the week

[opaque flume]

Interesting

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

Are you trying to get sub 1min?

[knotty fiber]

not really

just testing out

[knotty fiber]

this piece of shit flies all over the places

[vapid river]

fucking

rah

this was actually a challenge

[tired zodiac]

Idk if I'm using carlotta wrong but i died multiple times with her on 16 stars

[vapid river]

where?

in averardo vault?

[tired zodiac]

The one where she's a trial character

I don't have her

I forgot i have to check the name

[vapid river]

the third one

yeah idk

should be easy for you

[knotty fiber]

2nd

3rd one is mephis

[vapid river]

well that was fun

ig

[vapid river]

have you tried using any of the trial characters? i'd like to think anyone could 120 this by using them but idk if they're even built well

[knotty fiber]

There's no time limit

I used trial brant

Got ~4:30

[vapid river]

so it's definitely doable

[knotty fiber]

Why tf do you even use klt against sentry

[cobalt apex]

negative damage

[vapid river]

something to do?

she's s6r1

i used the damage one first

then the healing

[knotty fiber]

Literally incurable brain damage

[vapid river]

the healing felt much easier

[knotty fiber]

Look

[vapid river]

but it took like 4:40

[knotty fiber]

It got slower time than my S0R1 hsi comp

[vapid river]

yeah without the damage buff

she was doing like 40k crits

big hit was like 120k?

it was kinda fun

[knotty fiber]

Glacio res + can't fucking jump or you lose dmg

[vapid river]

ik

[knotty fiber]

Literally lose lose situation

[vapid river]

it was so bad

• you have to jump

[knotty fiber]

Not "it"

[vapid river]

or you get frozen to the ground

[knotty fiber]

You were so bad

[vapid river]

wdym?

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

i beat it

[knotty fiber]

👎

[vapid river]

trying something b/c it's hard doesn't make me bad

you should try it

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex I did the entire thing with S0R1 comp

And when I tried using my cameme against rider

It became a cake walk

[vapid river]

you didn't just jinhsi rider?

[knotty fiber]

I jinhsi everything lol

[vapid river]

idk felt like jinhsi could just solo all of this, no?

yeah

[cobalt apex]

nice

my stuff is omega scuff

[vapid river]

use trial characters? might help

[cobalt apex]

well i got everything i wanted so

[knotty fiber]

Ofc mr. 100%-loss-rate that also quit the game for 3 patches

[lyric fjord]

What decides which cinematic plays at the end of the fight? The first non trial character in the line up?

[knotty fiber]

First char in line up

Trial or not

Doesn't matter

[cobalt apex]

wait a week it might go down

[lyric fjord]

K ty

[knotty fiber]

"Might" is the operative word here

[cobalt apex]

everything can be fixed i just need to win every char within 20 pulls

(it prob will take me almost all of 2.x to get me back to a comfortable account)

[vapid river]

this game mode is fun

[tired zodiac]

Ig I don't know how to use carlotta

She died twice

[vapid river]

the other 4 hits were like 1.2mil

[vapid river]

uhh double e, ha, swap to zz ult, swap to sk do her rot, swap to zz do her rot, swap to lotta double e, ha, ult

something like that

[tired zodiac]

Is trial lotta good?

[vapid river]

no clue

i wouldn't ever need to use her so

[neat robin]

I think you go heavy attack before e

It gives her the little shard stacks first

[knotty fiber]

Either HA E E

Or E HA E

[neat robin]

The tiniest little upgrade

[neat robin]

Alr shes on full double crit empyrean set now

[tired zodiac]

if we do get a free jiyan/yinlin/xly whom should i choose?

i have changli brant encore verina sk and xly

[thorn brook]

I'd say Jiyan

[vapid river]

.> oh true i don't have to do that though

[tired zodiac]

[thorn brook]

I've heard that Ciaconna is gonna be a good buff for him too so that's good timing

[opaque flume]

Meow

[tired zodiac]

woof

[tired zodiac]

i dont think im gettinf cia

im going for zani and thiya for now

im broke

[knotty fiber]

are you trying to brick thy by not pulling ciaccona

lmao

[neat robin]

Cia is cope for jiyan
I would know I’m desperate for non-mort team

[thorn brook]

Yeah neither am I I'm just saying

[neat robin]

Aerover can replace your sustain but we dont have the sword refines yet

140 pulls and on guaranteed for cia
Getting her then waiting on thyia leaks to decide on the pistol or not

[tired zodiac]

Im getting zani

[tired zodiac]

i will pull on rerun

i need zani and thiya

if im lucky on zani maybe ill try

[vapid river]

do you have phoebe?

[tired zodiac]

nu

i just pull characters i like

more

[vapid river]

surely srover will be good enough for zani

but then no aerover cope for thyia

[tired zodiac]

and arover for thyia

real

[tired zodiac]

welp i will pull for em and wait for either pheobe or cia rerun

im able to clear toa

i can pull for the characters i want

[vapid river]

iirc susleaks said phoebe rerun with zani

but who knows

[tired zodiac]

i hope thiya has some spectro mechanic like cia

so i can use zani and thiya together idk

[knotty fiber]

Lmao

How do we tell bro

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

Zani is already married to phoebe

[kind tinsel]

Can Cia enable Phoebe instead of SRover?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[kind tinsel]

I'm thinking it should work for multiwave like WhiWa

instead of being annoying like SRover is for that

[knotty fiber]

Hate to break it to bro

But zani has 0 frazz app

So uh
Good luck

[knotty fiber]

It does

Just use her lib

Every hit from her lib applies both frazz and aerosion

[kind tinsel]

Who's the best third in that team then?

[knotty fiber]

Zani

[kind tinsel]

I don't wanna play Zani I wanna play main DPS Phoebe

[neat robin]

Phoeb cia srover

[knotty fiber]

You asked for the best

I gave you the best

[kind tinsel]

Fair nuff

[knotty fiber]

Also

Who said Zani doesn't allow dps pheeb

[neat robin]

You just wouldnt necessarily max zanis dmg there

I cant wait to see people coping over f2p zani teams
Zani srover sounds ass

[tired zodiac]

i understand that aerover can convert frazzle to erosion

[knotty fiber]

Normally you would choose to play confession if 3rd one is an amp

[neat robin]

Aerover cia thyia yes

[knotty fiber]

But if it's ciaccona

Then she allows the dual dps setup for pheeb and zani

[neat robin]

Aerover increases aerosion max stack doesnt he?
You can turn frazzle into extra aerosion

Unless I’m forgetting his outro

[kind tinsel]

I guess I'll use SRover as the third

Probably skipping Zani to ensure I can get both Cia and Carte

[knotty fiber]

1. Zani has no frazz app
2. Zani converts frazz to her own status
3. Thy is rumoured to do the same shit as Zani does

You can't be more wrong to cope that they will go together

[tired zodiac]

[knotty fiber]

Unless you want to stick to your gun and ruin yourself

[tired zodiac]

meh im pulling both anyways

one can only cope

[knotty fiber]

I don't

I'm realistic

[tired zodiac]

or i wait 4 more months for one of em to rerun

either pheobe or cia

[tired zodiac]

being realistic wouldnt give me pulls to get all 4 of em anyways

[vapid river]

but it would make you not look dumb

[knotty fiber]

Jumped right into my throat

But continue

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

[tired zodiac]

is it dumb to hope a character with nothing known about them has smth

[vapid river]

yes

[knotty fiber]

Is it dumb to say we know nothing about Zani

Surely not right

[robust axle]

Is it dumb to say

[vapid river]

i see you cream

[robust axle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-garp-aokiji-kuzan-garp-vs-aokiji-gif-8694662296006827744

[tired zodiac]

brother im taking about thiya

[knotty fiber]

Doesn't deny my point

[tired zodiac]

it does

one is on beta

one has a kit to be formed

[knotty fiber]

Because how do you make Zani and Aerover work tgt?

[tired zodiac]

hmm

[robust axle]

You go into the character menu and pick "spectro" on that rover character and then you click confirm

[knotty fiber]

No shit

[tired zodiac]

assume thiya is a dps who work with both frazzle and aerosion

and applies it

[knotty fiber]

I hate to break it to you

Well

For the 2nd time

Pheeb's dps mode and Zani

Both are dps and have 0 frazz app

[vapid river]

doesn't phoebe have app in dps mode? or is that from sequences

[knotty fiber]

Nope

She either applies 1 from intro

or confession

[robust axle]

I feel like the reason why cia has frazzle is to give her some flexibility like how pheebs has a support side ,and not because its a cartethyia kit call

[knotty fiber]

There's nothing else from her that applies frazz

[knotty fiber]

Yep

It's also because

Aerover has conversion

[robust axle]

Fuck arover

[knotty fiber]

Would

[robust axle]

[knotty fiber]

Did you mean something else?

[tired zodiac]

dps mode: aero dps who uses aero erosion
non dps mode: applies frazzle and aero erosion

again im not saying its realistic, i just said i hope theres some interaction like cia lol

[knotty fiber]

No shit
Who's gonna dps in non dps mode then

[vapid river]

just make it apply all damage types atp

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

why stop at just frazzle/aerosion

[tired zodiac]

another aero or spectro

[tired zodiac]

true

[robust axle]

Can she apply financial stability status on me

[tired zodiac]

thats a nice idea as well

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[neat robin]

Another aero that also needs aerosion applied to do proper dmg..?

Yall coping

[tired zodiac]

obv

lol

[robust axle]

Another ?

Who's the first one

[knotty fiber]

No but she will deal financial instability on me

[neat robin]

Zani / Phoebe / Srover = thyia / cia / aerover

[kind tinsel]

Thinking about Cartethiya's team is interesting. Neither ARover nor Cia have an outro with a dmg amp that goes away on swapping

[neat robin]

Cia just happens to work in sustainless zani team cuz she apply frazzle

[knotty fiber]

By Klee's coping

[tired zodiac]

thats more likely

[knotty fiber]

If Thy has a non dps mode that applies aerosion

[kind tinsel]

So she'll work with quick swap by default if that's her team

[knotty fiber]

Then you need ANOTHER Aerosion dps to use it

Use the aerosion stacks

[neat robin]

Thyia + dps aerover yes

[robust axle]

Crazy work

[knotty fiber]

And unlike aerosion, frazz doesn't have any converter

[robust axle]

I havent seen this much cope since the Surely It Will Happen wars

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

Confession phoeb + aerover + mdps thyia

[winged belfry]

Yeah that's prob going to the cheap open

[tired zodiac]

seems like you would need either pheobe/cia

[robust axle]

cheap option
Phoebe

[neat robin]

Lol

[tired zodiac]

[robust axle]

Are we deadass 💔

[knotty fiber]

I mean it is cheap since you can use her for both comps

[winged belfry]

Well you need Rover

[neat robin]

You can build both zani or thyia team with just phoebe + rover then

[knotty fiber]

But well same thing applies for Ciaccona

[neat robin]

Instead of needing to pull 4 limiteds
*5 if using sk instead of rejuv srover

[tired zodiac]

its cheap coz you can use em in both teams and can act as a dps as well

its techically 3 in 1

[winged belfry]

And only other units being able to inflict any of the dots is Pheobe and Ciaccona

[tired zodiac]

would rejuv srover heal enough?

[winged belfry]

So theoretically Pheobe is cheaper as she was released a while back

[knotty fiber]

You don't need healing to begin with unless it's babel

[tired zodiac]

can they release some 4 stars who can apply frazzle or erosion

[robust axle]

Unfortunately its pheobe and not pretty elf wife so its not worth 😔

[tired zodiac]

[tired zodiac]

pheobe is cute tho

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuwa-gif-1148929593486619607

[robust axle]

Can they release some 4 stars

Is already a big wish ngl

[tired zodiac]

no i dont want useless ones

[knotty fiber]

If you want a 4*

It gotta be on a single 5* patch that doesn't introduce another new character

[tired zodiac]

uh

[knotty fiber]

Current patch doesn't have it cuz of aerover

[tired zodiac]

so thiya patch?

[knotty fiber]

Thy is double

Herself and Lupa

[tired zodiac]

ahh

is lupa confirmed to be 5 star

[robust axle]

Stepker said 2.6 ? I think

[knotty fiber]

Expect 2.5

[tired zodiac]

[robust axle]

The female gojo looking character

[tired zodiac]

shes fusion right?

[robust axle]

Yeah

[knotty fiber]

It looks like Phrolova is solo 5*

In 2.5

So there should be a 4*

[tired zodiac]

i hope its frazzle/erosion based

ykw i hope its frazzle coz aerover exists

[neat robin]

I dont like lupas current leaked design

They went pgr vera again
But its so unbalanced looking

[tired zodiac]

itll probably undergo changes no

[neat robin]

After thyia I’ll prob save for the aero guantlet girl
Yuno? Something like that

[neat robin]

I hope so

[knotty fiber]

Younuo

[vapid river]

like, it's a shame it's not res skill

but i'll fucking take it

[tired zodiac]

woah

[wheat moon]

nice

[tired zodiac]

does zani need BA bonus?

[lyric fjord]

likely not

but wait before discarding stuff, these things can change

[knotty fiber]

she's like pheeb case I think

[lyric fjord]

Currently it could be heavy or lib, but can't be sure of what it will be at release

[knotty fiber]

entering ult increases her BA multiplier

but heavy and lib are still better choice

[tired zodiac]

aight

great

[lyric fjord]

Clean, congrats

[tired zodiac]

i hope it goes hv and er/atk

[vapid river]

@solemn robin

[solemn robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1359166168950243378/kr_zzz250408_2.gif

[opaque narwhal]

is it worth getting cantarella or save for shorekeeper? my main goal is to complete tower of adversity (currently 28/30), and the problem rn is camellya not finishing her floor in time due to the lack of dps so do i go for cantarella for the extra dps or save for shorekeeper

[robust axle]

For meta purposes; shorekeeper is the way

[opaque narwhal]

is the dps increase from shorekeeper that big?

[robust axle]

Yeah her buffs are very big

Also cantarella isn't really synergistic with camellya

[opaque narwhal]

okay! i'll save for next banenr, thank u!

[vapid river]

12.5%cr and 25%cdmg is pretty huge

plus healer set buff

[neat robin]

Also teamwide buff from outro that doesnt disappear on swaps

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/shorekeeper-piano-wuthering-waves-wuwa-gif-11993709766822492907

[vapid river]

she is the best waif for meta

[tired zodiac]

And a full heal when you get hit with a lethal attack

[opaque flume]

Idk whoever you think is hot

[lyric fjord]

not everyone plays games while jacking off...

[vapid river]

but you do?

based

[tired zodiac]

Based

Me when I'm playing changli

Qs

[tired zodiac]

i have very bad er luck

[dapper oar]

uhh sure idk for who but ill assume either ciaccona or carte wants ER

[sage wharf]

Surely

[tired zodiac]

No they don't.
Fodder it rn (/j)

[small bronze]

are we putting cdmg aix still on zani cause of the 20% bonus from set?

[vapid river]

She doesn't apply frazzle but she does explode it

[small bronze]

oh so she wont get the bonus?

i didnt read the kit

[vapid river]

Well it might still count?

[neat robin]

Wouldnt you want her hits to crit still

[vapid river]

Idk

[neat robin]

Whats the 2nd part of that set again?

[small bronze]

what do you mean?

[vapid river]

It says inflict frazzle, does exploding it count as inflicting?

[neat robin]

‘Attacking enemies… ‘

The part you cut off

[neat robin]

Hm its still 25% spectro dmg even if shes not getting the cr

[small bronze]

so we thinking she wont get the cr?

cause idk which aix to roll

[vapid river]

Depends on if exploding counts as inflicting

Doesn't she convert frazzle into something else but it still counts as frazzle?

[neat robin]

Aerover converts frazzle (and others) to aerosion

[vapid river]

That's not what I'm talking about

Zani's kit had something where she converts frazzle into something specific to her kit

[neat robin]

She has a solar thing

[vapid river]

Yeah that

But still counts as frazzle

So maybe when the switch happens it counts as inflicting

[neat robin]

I dont think converting counts as infliction anyways, but you could possibly teat using aerover on guat set
See if you get the dmg bonus from converting phoeb stacks to aerosion

[vapid river]

Would be the only way I could see getting the cr

Yeah that'd be a good way to test it

[neat robin]

I think its just a matter of
‘Is solar stacks a type of frazzle’ and if so
‘Do you remove frazzle and re-inflict solar frazzle stack’

[vapid river]

Yeah that's the idea

[small bronze]

too easy

first one i got

[knotty fiber]

She does

She converts frazz into her own stack which is stated to still activate radiance set

[lucid pebble]

[tired zodiac]

Yeah but your main echo would be the 3 cost one

[tired zodiac]

I believe I read in her kit that it would be so you could use spectro set

[tired zodiac]

[lyric fjord]

Converting counts as applying. So she applies SF to trigger the set any time an ally applies SF.
Also it's possible her outro removes SF/solar to all enemies hit

[rapid dew]

is 120 max stress level in event

[neat robin]

30 per stage ye

[rapid dew]

so its this