・wuwa-lounge

[knotty fiber]

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Soon Cantarella

[quasi sable]

Starting to think that I should pull her sig instead the char

[tired zodiac]

ez

[cobalt cobalt]

Give me beant

[tired zodiac]

nu

[outer jetty]

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Woot

[quasi sable]

So did you get guarantee?

[outer jetty]

Not guarantee

[quasi sable]

Oof

Well at least you have more pulls

[dire river]

So what's his role again?

[quasi sable]

Brant?
He's support + healing (but not counted as healer)

[dire river]

You'd think he's dps with how he looks

[quasi sable]

Kinda? But more in sdps

From what I've seen

[dapper oar]

FIRST 10 PULL I HAD 0 PITY YIPPEEE

[outer jetty]

we the same, cheer

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-cheers-kanpai-pirates-beer-gif-19895356

[small bronze]

2.5h until brant

I can feel the calcharo

im not winning the 50 50 today

[quasi sable]

I pulled Changli

[small bronze]

Im happy I don't have to pick im rocking c1 changli with sig since she came out

[uncut swan]

i guess after my final exam this is my reward for surviving 2nd term

[dapper oar]

my punishment for never prefarming anymore

[uncut swan]

how much cr changli needs

[quasi sable]

What sword does changli use

[knotty fiber]

EoG

For dmg dealers:
Sword: EoG
Pistols: Mist
Rect: Stringmaster

[quasi sable]

EoG being use by cammy rn

@knotty fiber is changli worth to pull

[knotty fiber]

I mean

if you like her

pull her

if you don't

no

[quasi sable]

I just pull her

I do like her

But how worth is it

Her sword

[harsh coral]

A very small (~10% IIRC) upgrade over EoG

A much bigger upgrade over 4* options

Camellya's sig is similar to EoG

[quasi sable]

So

Hmmm

Maybe I'll pull cammy sig

[harsh coral]

Just be aware that she's a high skill unit. Her best teams have a lot of swap cancels

[quasi sable]

Like Encore or Yao team?

[harsh coral]

Brant makes it less punishing to not quickswap but yes, Encore and Yao are her default partners. That and Jinshi

Also, if you do intend to pull her, be aware that she's only doing around half or less your teams damage much of the time. Getting a weapon for her is much lower value than getting one for a hypercarry

[quasi sable]

Also I maybe newb and not very casual with quickswap

But will try learn her rot

[sweet coral]

HEHEHEJABSJEHEH BRANT

I got him

[small bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

its time

to lose the 50 50

I WON

[quasi sable]

Nice

How many pulls

[small bronze]

with the 22k i had rn i had 50 pity already and i just did a 10 pull

tbh i was expecting to lose 50/50 and then get him at 80

now an early sig

sig at 70 but we are not complaining

[quasi sable]

I might pull cammy sig and sk

[outer jetty]

playing floor is lava with Brant is fun.

[tired zodiac]

aight im stuck here for 3 more days

[limber vessel]

ty is basic attack that important i read on her skills all her dmg come from heavy attack

and ult

[small bronze]

afaik no i just got it on my rolls

[limber vessel]

outro aswell

[small bronze]

u want heavy attack and crits

[limber vessel]

ok ty

[warm vector]

https://tenor.com/view/reiner-shotgun-gif-25285418

[limber vessel]

is changli weapon must pull ?

[warm vector]

no

[warm vector]

consult the graphs

it is only a bit better than eog

[small bronze]

mine is done already

[tired zodiac]

Nice

Need a lil bit more crit rate

[small bronze]

yea true but thats best i can do so far

all my cubes gone for the husbando

[tired zodiac]

This is mine (got another and it went to 260 er and 223 crit dmg

Oh also, 73 crit rate

[small bronze]

you without sig i assume?

how do you have so much atk did i not get any %atk rolls on mine

[small bronze]

also

can some literate person tell me if the "flips" on brant happen automatically when his midair? im trying to understand his s1
if its just a "passive" dmg or something requiring special sequencing with the flips

[tired zodiac]

With sig. That's probably on ult don't mind it

[tired zodiac]

When he attacks mid air , he flips

I think

[cobalt cobalt]

Who the fuck knows man

[lilac hare]

How good is his s1? I can buy from the shop

[small bronze]

prydwen info

[dapper oar]

i think i can change to cdmg 4c?

[tired zodiac]

43311 is the optimal one ig?

[dapper oar]

why is it low rolls

[tired zodiac]

not bad

[dapper oar]

okay im always gonna use him with sk anyway so this should be fine

my sig isnt even maxed because im low on weapon mats

[tired zodiac]

This is my stat with sk (brant ult active)

4.2k atk

[dapper oar]

by the way is stonard r1 or the standard 5 star better for xiangliyao?

[tired zodiac]

I think standard 5 star was better coz high atk stat

[tired zodiac]

very similar

[dapper oar]

oh I'd stick to abyss then, or maybe i should get refinements for Jiyan's autumntrace

my yao is struggling a bit with crit rate his base crate is 61 for me so i do kinda need it

[cobalt cobalt]

[vapid river]

rip

wrong man

[quasi sable]

Your Brant looks edgy and dark

even forgettable too

[neat robin]

Well uh

I have s0r1 now

I kinda wanna keep going

[quasi sable]

No don't

[vapid river]

what did you start at?

[quasi sable]

Give them to me instead

[neat robin]

23k gems and 52 pulls

[vapid river]

so like 50-60 pulls total?

[neat robin]

Well I did have a bit of char banner pity

Back from carlotta

[vapid river]

i'm at 0 pity

[neat robin]

I also have enough coral again to buy a dupe

[vapid river]

went for s4 phoebe and got a calcharo instead

[neat robin]

I could see if I win 5050

[vapid river]

how are brant's sequences?

worth pulling for?

[small bronze]

im 63 pity gonna try s1 too i only have like 250 corals so i cant buy any

[vapid river]

60% dmg increase is pretty wild

[neat robin]

And then 30% midair crit on s2

[vapid river]

is the 2nd one

considered coord dmg?

[neat robin]

Afaik s1 isnt a huge dmg increase either tho

[small bronze]

prydwen says its 20% more dmg total

[neat robin]

Its basic% dmg

[vapid river]

no no

the 2nd sequence

does that count as coord

[neat robin]

Idk I feel like its just an extra outro like carla has

[neat robin]

Oh dang ok

[vapid river]

so you go to s3

[neat robin]

Loll

[vapid river]

tf is his s4?

[small bronze]

shield upgrade

[vapid river]

ah

makes sense

[neat robin]

Best I can do for now

[vapid river]

do you have to do weekly boss twice for mats?

[small bronze]

mine is juiced to max just need better 4 cost and one 3 cost

[vapid river]

or are you just missing the other ones

the metal shit

or boss mat

[neat robin]

The sword mats yeah

[vapid river]

not a big deal then

[neat robin]

I did enough hecate I can 10 everything but outro

Intro

[vapid river]

according to prydwen

his res skill isn't good or it's just his shield?

[neat robin]

Yeah fortes the atk convert so I wanted it 10 first

[small bronze]

his res skill is just to enter it and then you deal basic damage anyway afaik

[neat robin]

Skill is like

[small bronze]

thats why its last

[neat robin]

Tiny

Thats all that changes

[vapid river]

ah

this explains the new event

and the plunge dmg bonus

[small bronze]

is winning 50 50 on brant twice in a row asking for too much

[neat robin]

I love the sword so much

Most of them you never even see cuz of the sheath

Ok if I lose 5050 for brant s1 please just let it be verina

I want her s2

Nvm its brant

[small bronze]

you got him?

nicee

i hope i will win too

im just doing singles atp 63 pity

[neat robin]

Won s1

So buying s2 with coral

My build is soooo bad

[blissful tulip]

Love him

[neat robin]

Uh ok so just 32k outros with unbuffed brant

That s2 trigger

Why am I randomly healing for +7

Whats happening

[blissful tulip]

His orange heals him

In his idle

Funny man

[neat robin]

Ohhh

[blissful tulip]

Canon team

[neat robin]

Lol

117k unbuffed on his forte

Not bad

Considering my build

Is his ult supposed to do dmg

[small bronze]

how do you push these pillars again

[neat robin]

Its terrible

[small bronze]

it boosts basic attack u do it first

[neat robin]

Should be squares on the ground, have one between you and the pillar and you can drag it

[neat robin]

Ah
Reading would help

Ty

[small bronze]

my bad it increases your attack and boosts your forte gain, its the signature that works with ult and thats why you use it first

confused it

[neat robin]

Either way

[small bronze]

yea either way its for boost

[neat robin]

Okay so ult then skill basic combo

[small bronze]

you can use E and insta ult for a little sliver of free forte

and then E again

[small bronze]

oh you are supposed to drag it to you and i tried to push it

now i get it

[tired zodiac]

I did 180k on his forte

With changli and sk ofc

[small bronze]

mine does 155k without sk

[tired zodiac]

Verina?

[small bronze]

na without anything

[tired zodiac]

If I can get a bit better pieces I can get 200k with sk alone

[small bronze]

i run this but i just explore and i just attack with brant only

i didnt try real rotation yet

[tired zodiac]

I cleared toa 5 energy bosses

It was ez

Now all I need is one more dps

Changli does like 180k on ult and 80k on E

[neat robin]

Okay 140k forte unbuffed now that I ulted first for his sig lol

[small bronze]

exploring and doing singles right now feels like eternity

64 pity and im gonna get lingyang

[tired zodiac]

Yeah you ult and then forte

That's how you get max dmg

[tired zodiac]

I did 40 wishes just to see if I get a brant. Now I'm saving for zani. I have 100 wishes and 40 pity so it's guaranteed

I hope she's a very good dps

[small bronze]

yea i just wanna see if i get lucky with s1 and if not im saving all the way for zani

[blissful tulip]

Honest to god think Brant may be my favourite character combat wise

Airborne quickswaps are so fun

[tired zodiac]

Real

Changli E, Brant E plunge, E again, Changli conquest is what I do

[blissful tulip]

Somewhat wish Shorekeeper had an air moveset as a result of this but what can you do

[tired zodiac]

Next universal buffer trust

[tired zodiac]

Tbh you don't have to switch to sk while airborne

[neat robin]

Sk can heal midair thats about it

Canta drip is out

Splash? Whichever

Or have I just never seen this post yet

Nvm

Delayed af

[cobalt cobalt]

Unless she buys me pulls for Brant she can swim back to the ocean where they fished her out

[neat robin]

I think I’m gonna skip
Love the jellies but I can wait til rerun if shes got a dps teammate

I still have a bunch of astrites but I want to make sure I can get thyia + sig, and cia too

[blissful tulip]

Same here, she seems very similar to Zhezhi for me and quite mindless rotation wise

[sweet coral]

We need more hot men

[neat robin]

Cant wait

Idk what to do

I shouldnt have prefarmed for brant cuz now I have nothinggggg

[blissful tulip]

Considering no signature he's actually doing very well

41% basic atk

[tired zodiac]

im going for thyia and zani

[tired zodiac]

youre not getting the 5pc buff. might as well use 2pc 2pc or another set

[blissful tulip]

That is exactly what I'm doing

[tired zodiac]

I see

tis good then

[tired zodiac]

how much do you get on forte

no external buff

brant ult then brant forte

[blissful tulip]

I'll see in a bit

[tired zodiac]

okayy

try it on a boss

without fusion res

[rapid dew]

me starting cuz bored

is camellya good

[quasi sable]

cammy is good on aoe content

but at whiwa, jiyan takes the cake

[rapid dew]

idk she hot

so she good sometimes

and hot

nice

[quasi sable]

shes like top 3 strongest dps

[neat robin]

Anyone else with s2 brant

Idk if his s2 cr is supposed to show on stat page or not, mine never changes

[vapid river]

never in life will that be me

[neat robin]

Ive done regular mid air attacks, skill in midair etc. cr on paper doesnt change

[vapid river]

it would show up when activated

ik jiyan's does

it's b/c who tf knows what "flip" means

in that context

that's the one where it says he has to flip

or some shit

right?

[neat robin]

Nah it should be either midair or casting forte

[frozen drum]

it doesnt show on mine either

[vapid river]

it's possible it's bugged

but it should show

[frozen drum]

i think its just increase cr on those attack only or visual bugs

[knotty fiber]

Casting Mid-air Attack and Returned from Ashes increases Brant's Crit. Rate by 30%.

specific attack crit rate boost

[vapid river]

yeah idk

[knotty fiber]

-> no stat shown

cuz it's not universal

[neat robin]

Yeah it doesnt say it only increases those 2 attacks

[vapid river]

but it reads like it's universal

[neat robin]

It says casting those gives you 30cr

[knotty fiber]

does it have a duration?

see

[neat robin]

No so idk

[knotty fiber]

that's the point

[neat robin]

I mean its fine like 99% of his everything is midair anyways

[vapid river]

if no duration then i'm guessing it's just for the instant those are cast?

[knotty fiber]

yes

which is why I said

[vapid river]

[frozen drum]

yeah

[vapid river]

fuckin goofy

[knotty fiber]

attack specific

[vapid river]

yeah that makes sense

[frozen drum]

atleast its like the attack he uses

[vapid river]

did you pull brant?

[knotty fiber]

no

[vapid river]

didn't think so

[frozen drum]

casting liberation and not critting hurts me eventho its not even high

[edgy cobalt]

what are you whales talking about

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

I'm skipping the whole 2.2 too

[vapid river]

i feel that

unless i see a mort replacement

i won't pull till zani probably

i hate that he's moved up there

[frozen drum]

im waiting for another male

so like another 1 year

[vapid river]

true

[quasi sable]

how is brant and changli lower than him?

[vapid river]

geshu lin when

[quasi sable]

wtf

[knotty fiber]

prydwen is dumb

[frozen drum]

or a female that interest me like carlotta

[vapid river]

it is

[knotty fiber]

you won't fucking believe it

just read the changelog

see the reasonings

[frozen drum]

🅱️rydwen in 2025

[knotty fiber]

I fucking die

lmfao

[quasi sable]

are they high or something

[vapid river]

do they explain why they moved him?

is it b/c he can be used with phoebe?

[quasi sable]

i bet its gonna be stupid explanation

[knotty fiber]

my friend who used to be a prydwen shiller also crapped on it

the list is fucking dumb

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

I can't use the r word

but that's what I call prydwen now

[frozen drum]

world would be healing if people stop using prydwen as their holy grail

[vapid river]

pryetardwen

[quasi sable]

(redacted)?

[knotty fiber]

blade said it

[vapid river]

eh i'll work on it

[quasi sable]

they sure

[vapid river]

that still sounds a bit weird

[quasi sable]

what are you smoking
give me one

[vapid river]

this

is so fucking dumb

[neat robin]

Can cia please be a heavy% buffer
Like idc she can be a 4* for thyia team

[neat robin]

This doesnt make mort t0 😭

[frozen drum]

[vapid river]

that's the jiyan thing

it's mort being viable in jiyan or phoebe teams

that makes him there

but i like how they mention "optimize rotations" but don't show what those rotations are for jiyan

[quasi sable]

wait
whats the tier on again

[vapid river]

[quasi sable]

tower or whiwa

[vapid river]

tower

[quasi sable]

.....

[vapid river]

idk

[knotty fiber]

read tsubaki and brant

[quasi sable]

if its whiwa

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

he's t0 in my heart

[quasi sable]

makes more sense

but tower

[vapid river]

performs the same as s6 hrover?

surely

[knotty fiber]

putting tsubaki in the same level of hrover and yao

I fucking die

[vapid river]

@solemn robin

didn't think that was you for a second

b/c of your pfp

[solemn robin]

https://tenor.com/view/araragi-koyomi-koyomi-araragi-bakemonogatari-crawl-wiggle-gif-6935563

[vapid river]

i shouldn't have to tell anyone here but don't click links from strangers on the internet

get that pervert off my screen

[solemn robin]

https://tenor.com/view/araragi-platinum-disco-monogatari-dancing-gif-8112742

[vapid river]

i hate their rococo reasoning too

she's on field for maybe 2s longer than sanhua

and adds more dmg to the run

[quasi sable]

thats a crime

[knotty fiber]

the only reason I will accept

[vapid river]

yeah god forbid people stay on field for 7 seconds

[knotty fiber]

is that rococo is expensive

no more

[vapid river]

that's a valid reason

[neat robin]

Outside of tower prob rocc >
But in tower everything dies fast enough sanhua clears same time

[knotty fiber]

Rococo has super limited option in weapon

[vapid river]

to not pull her

[quasi sable]

so true

[knotty fiber]

but that's it

[vapid river]

but not to say that s0r1 rococo is worse than sanhua

b/c that's just not true

[neat robin]

I still havent seen anybody show a tower clear where roccia was actually a worthwhile upgrade

[vapid river]

impractical for f2p yes

[quasi sable]

i dont pull roccia cuz

sanhua alone is enoug

for cammy

[vapid river]

you're not wrong

[neat robin]

But in whiwa with lots of mobs I can see rocc cc

[knotty fiber]

generally you don't wanna showcase S0R1 for a sdps

[vapid river]

but r0s1 rococo is better

[quasi sable]

yeah but

[neat robin]

Nah camy clears with sanhua vs rocc

[quasi sable]

wait

is her sig good?

[neat robin]

Tower they’re like the same clear times

[vapid river]

for her it is

[knotty fiber]

yes

about the same

[neat robin]

Rocc kinda wants sig yeah

[knotty fiber]

because there's not really room for improvement

not kinda

but really

[quasi sable]

i thought her sig will be gauntlet ver of stringmaster

[neat robin]

I was being nice 😔

[vapid river]

it's 12% atk and 48% heavy atk

[neat robin]

Roccia sig or cope
And no other heavy% guantlet char yet

[knotty fiber]

there isn't any stringmaster version for other weaps yet

[vapid river]

the heavy is on intro or basic atk for 3s

stringmaster too universal

[neat robin]

Eog is next closest for swords

[knotty fiber]

mist for pistols

[vapid river]

except for the er

[knotty fiber]

gauntlet and broadsword have none

[vapid river]

if it was atk% i'd say yeah

that er is just meh

[neat robin]

Why? Everyone still needs some er

[vapid river]

or cdmg or cr

ik

but echoes

i'm just saying there are better stats it could be

[neat robin]

Its 24 cr and a free er sub, plus the atk bonus

[vapid river]

we're comparing it to stringmaster

that's a high bar

[neat robin]

Thats why I said eog is next closest

[vapid river]

nah variation

(kappa means sarcasm)

for you non-twitch enjoyers

[quasi sable]

variation

[vapid river]

eog is good tho

[neat robin]

String is big cr, and atk/dmg
eog med cr, er atk

[quasi sable]

is equivalent of DDD in hsr

best 4* option yet chars fighting over it

[vapid river]

yeah i'm not saying eog isn't good but to use prydwen system

stringmaster is t0

eog is like t1

[neat robin]

Just supports cuz everybody is rectifier

[vapid river]

it's not good enough for t0.5

[quasi sable]

only sk dont use stringmaster right

[neat robin]

If they give us sword heal or soemthing we can use overture or like
Any of the other concerto 4*s

[vapid river]

true

imagine 4* weapons being 4* bis

4* sig weapons

[neat robin]

Sk verina baizhi . Variation
Dps, sdps . String

[vapid river]

that'd actually be kinda cool

[quasi sable]

i wish i have 3 r5 variations

[vapid river]

oof

give one to toshi

[quasi sable]

lmao

[neat robin]

I have a r5, and r1/2

[quasi sable]

im at r4 rn

need like

[vapid river]

idek how many i have?

[neat robin]

I just want one more verina and I wont need to care shes only got a r1 vari

[quasi sable]

11 more

[vapid river]

ik at least 1 r5

[quasi sable]

i thought itll be more

cuz you know

whel

[vapid river]

i don't pay attention to 4* weapons

so

[neat robin]

I ended with my r2 jiyan sig cuz I wanted a variation and got sig early

I just want non-rectifier heal/buffers pls

[vapid river]

brant

srover

taoqi

souhu?

youhu

jianxin kinda? does she heal or just shield?

[quasi sable]

what even is lucky draw

in youhu kit

[vapid river]

no clue

[neat robin]

Rng

[quasi sable]

yeah but what

[neat robin]

4 random enhanced skills

[quasi sable]

oh

[neat robin]

Skill to heal, gain 1 of 4 enhanced skills

Idk what they do

[quasi sable]

risky

[vapid river]

i have 1 r5 variation and an r1

surprising

[quasi sable]

wow shocker

:surprised_pikachuface:

[neat robin]

Just yk

Waiting on chars who can use the other types

[cobalt cobalt]

I need the Brant

[shut isle]

i have 1 copy of all of these except variation

[quasi sable]

not even r1?

[shut isle]

nope

[cobalt cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/brant-wuwa-wuwa-brant-brant-wuwa-wuthering-gif-171725458439880250

[shut isle]

not a single variation yet

[cobalt cobalt]

Please let this be me

[vapid river]

those are all the instances of me pulling variation

if they'd load

[neat robin]

14k astrites for cia/thyia

New(?) zani leak is heavy%

[shut isle]

mortefi stonks rise again

[vapid river]

imagine zani was the support jiyan needed all along

[shut isle]

[vapid river]

she's actually aero and buffs heavy

we were lied to

[quasi sable]

aint he already is

[shut isle]

copium overdose

[vapid river]

it would be thematic if she paired with phoebe

considering how much they interact in the story

[vapid river]

^i already know how cope it sounds

[neat robin]

Spectro heavy% zani
Spectro frazzle mode phoebe

[shut isle]

also would give fibi's support mode an actual reason for existing

[quasi sable]

imagine turns out

Zani and aerover

njot phoebe

[neat robin]

If zani can work with any dot and not just frazzle

But srover is frazzle already so doesnt make sense

[shut isle]

maybe zani gets specific buffs/interaction depending on the dot enemies are inflicted when she hits them

[neat robin]

Aerover could end up thyia’ f2p support
With that aero amp sig? And the sword looks the same as boss thyias too

[shut isle]

could be something weird like u use fibi to apply frazzle and convert it to aero with aerover

[neat robin]

I’m just being thrown off by glacio boss thyia

True since aerover has heals right? Can be rejuv and converts dots

[shut isle]

i forgor can fibi change modes after shes entered one

[neat robin]

Yes ?
I think

Needs full forte again

Idk I skipped I dont like her

[knotty fiber]

can't change until the next 24s

[rapid dew]

alr got changli in 10 pulls

and her wep in 3

got lucky at start

now i havw all the hot ladies

[dusty crown]

4 crit dmg nightmare mourning aix on 40

very pog

thank you kuro

[limber vessel]

no u need to empty the forte first

then switch based on what u want

[neat robin]

Sometimes sword sometimes sheath

I’m wondering if its just full forte?

[small bronze]

was not gonna win twice in a row

knew it

bruh

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-cat-in-front-of-sea-gif-16930437336998530733

id rather just get a 4* than this

[neat robin]

Hmmm

Id like to see numbers but

Brant sig+tidebreak > eog+molten > overture+tidebreak apparently

[small bronze]

damn i just realized you get the atk bonus AFTER you ult and then forte and not just ult, i thought i was getting 0 attack

[sweet coral]

I thought you get the ER to ATK passively??

And the ult just makes the scaling stronger??

[small bronze]

well yea thats what i meant, i thought the scaling increase was just after ult and i thought i was getting nothing but it happens after ult -> forte

mine jumps from 3230 to 4230 after ult forte

so i was ulting, (to get basic attack bonus from sig) and then starting to stack the forte but then you lose out on the scaling? cause it takes some time to get the full forte and that scaling buff is only 12 seconds so its confusing me now

[neat robin]

Id say
Basics to 3/4 forte or whatnot
Ult
Finish basics to fill
Forte

That way you can quickswap during the beginning too

[small bronze]

it kinda looks like that scaling buff is for people that wanna use him longer or make him more of dps cause that will make you either: 1 - do a quick rot of insta ult, (utilize sig basic bonus during forte gain) forte and switch to changli. or 2 - the one we right now are talking about which is basics to 3/4 forte, ult use forte but then to use that bonus you would need to use his basics for 12 more seconds

[tired zodiac]

er to atk is passive on forte right?
Only burst has a seperate atk buff

[tired zodiac]

ive been using like this
changli E -> brant E plunge, E -> changli conquest (do it 2 times)
sk E, Echo, ult, outro to changli, switch to brant
brant echo, brant ba until full concerto
outro to changli, changli Forte, Ult, Forte -> outro to brant
brant Q, Forte, Ba
( -> is quickswap)

[small bronze]

er to atk is on forte and when you ult and then forte it makes the scaling higher

[tired zodiac]

yeah

[small bronze]

for 12 seconds

[tired zodiac]

Ult then forte

thats how it is

[harsh coral]

Depends. You can do that in a sub-DPS setup but it's kind of pointless since his NAs are stronger when buffed and they also generate double the forte. A full NA rotation with just one of the hits held should max out his forte when under his Lib buff. However, in his carry rotations take advantage of his short rotation and long cooldowns to build gauge for a forte before you use his liberation. So you go forte, liberation, NA combo, and then a second forte

[harsh coral]

Forte will end the ult buff btw. After that you go back to the non-buffed scaling

You want to go Ult, do a NA combo, then Forte to end your rotation. You can swap cancel the echo after that.

[neat robin]

Isnt that just quickswap vs hypercarry then
Depends what team hes in cuz you dont wanna swap off after ult until forte is used

[small bronze]

atp im confused whether he gets the atk after ult or ult forte i might be wrong

cause if he gets it after just ult then u always ult and basic until forte and swap but if he gets it after forte then some people might wanna keep the uptime after for the bonus

[frozen drum]

he gets the atk after using ult

his s1 wants him to instantly nuke it tho after doing the Mid air attack

ig in s0 you can just do his stuff and then nuke when his liberation duration is almost over

oh and using forte instantly also just instantly makes his ult state end early too

[blissful tulip]

Around 90k

[neat robin]

You think?

Wouldnt you want 3 midair attacks to stack s1 before using forte?

[frozen drum]

he gets 1 stack from intro as well

so only need 2 mid air + 1 intro

[neat robin]

I dont like the ‘flip’ part idk which midair attacks actually count
Midair heavy? Any normal midair attack?

[frozen drum]

i think its the attack after he finishes the spinning

im still unclear about it tho

so many thing happen when he's on field

[neat robin]

Whatever hes fun

The better beyblade
Sry camy, you’re the boring spin now

[frozen drum]

[vapid river]

she was always boring spin

she's just your canon yantsundere stalkeradmirer

[quasi sable]

Nah she's just freaky stalker

[limber imp]

Are the cartethyia kit leaks true?

[tired zodiac]

level 10 ult?

[tired zodiac]

admirer fr

[blissful tulip]

No, level 6

[tired zodiac]

oh

[tired zodiac]

forte level?

6 as well?

[blissful tulip]

9

[tired zodiac]

ok

[tired zodiac]

which boss?

[blissful tulip]

Heron

[neat robin]

I get 119k lv10 forte/skill solo on overworld mobs

Ive seen 140k that might be with sk’s rejuv buff tho

[tired zodiac]

C0R1 did 120k

solo

[neat robin]

I might not be stacking s1 properly

I have pretty similar atk and cdmg to yours

[tired zodiac]

exactly 121899 dmg against heron (Dirge Echo + Ult)

[neat robin]

No intro means I meed 3 midair flips ? Still dont know which atk is the flip
For s1

[tired zodiac]

just use intro

dont use any other skill

[neat robin]

Yeah the 119k is without intro

I’ll play around later to see which attacks give him s1 stacks

[tired zodiac]

then youre not getting the s1 stacks then

[neat robin]

Not home rn

The 140k might be stacked then

I havent tried him in an actual team yet
My echos suck

[tired zodiac]

bro why doesnt his atk get buffed after ult

nvm it did

121899

[neat robin]

Does dirge buff him after use?

[tired zodiac]

apparently using forte removes it

[neat robin]

Ive been using it at the end and swapping off

Like dreamless

[tired zodiac]

yeah ba and fusion bonus

[neat robin]

Oh oops
Ok so 119k without dirge either then

[tired zodiac]

no you get buff without using

[neat robin]

Ah okay like a nightmare echo

[tired zodiac]

i said dirge to say im getting the buff

[tired zodiac]

yeah

[neat robin]

I’m using it right then

Ive been bouncing around with brant lotta

Carla skill and sentry can be swapped midair straight into brants midair stuff

[tired zodiac]

Using his frote refreshes "my" moment back to theratrical moment

aka ult buff is gone

Thats kinda ass

Did 200k with changli outro + Sk buffs(all)

Wait nvm

it was in fusion buffed area

dmg so high i couldnt see it

bro

i cant see the final dmg

finally, 188670 against bell borne

Changli + sk buffs

[delicate skiff]

Same, stuff dies too fast

I saw 380k in Tower but Tower is skewed towards fusion dmg now

[tired zodiac]

yeah i saw a high dmg number too

[neat robin]

I need to figure out a lotta brant rot

My s3 lotta rotates so fast kinda thinking about verina for atk buffs and outro deepen instead of using sk
That saves her for camy/xy/jiyan team too

[blissful tulip]

Waiting for another airborne damage dealer to combo with Brant

[harsh coral]

The flip is when you jump back from the enemy. It should happen after every NA in his mid-air chain

Really, you can just hold down the NA button and he'll do his full combo

[harsh coral]

That said, if you just want to max his S1 quickly for a Forte burst then mashing the NA button will do that faster

[tired zodiac]

https://youtu.be/mohSLTbpmfY?si=4ZPhfs-rEfTz84B-

[blissful tulip]

Changli isn't exactly what I'm looking for

[waxen flare]

have u tried brant encore

[blissful tulip]

Don't own Encore

[waxen flare]

rip

i heard hyper carry brant with sanhua is decent too

[blissful tulip]

I'll use Brant as a Chixia booster for the time being

It's the main reason I pulled him besides fun

[waxen flare]

that also works

[tired zodiac]

yeah its decent

its like 80% hypercarry changli

[tired zodiac]

can someone teach me how to do this

?

I try to save her conquest after ult

but she does it before ukt

0:06

[cobalt cobalt]

I need him please I need

Come home!

[neat robin]

I couldnt find something that survives so

No stacks and (i think) 3 stacks from s1

Eh

Idk how many stacks
But a proper team

[lyric fjord]

Bonk

[edgy cobalt]

saw a reddit post saying brant is the lingsha of wuwa

he’ll be goated in babel I’ll say that

[winged belfry]

IMHO, his design is very interesting

Finally we are shifting from Verina SK

So we could get non healing supports, and healing sub DPS

Which I think is great because it breaks the mold

[neat robin]

Between cantarella who combines off field & heals
Brant is onfield and heal/shield

Wonder if we’ll get dedicated buffers or dps/buffers

[quasi sable]

I might pull him for Changli team

[small bronze]

he feels so fluid to play

hes like the opposite of cam for me

i hate how she has to be so stationary to spin

most fun ive had from a character since launch

and i dont wanna admit it cause it feels like cheating

https://tenor.com/view/jiyan-wuthering-waves-jiyan-wuthering-waves-game-anime-gif-14739623948634455372

[neat robin]

One day they’ll release a midair char that isnt changli

Dont like her

But my only option is with carla, or hypercarry brant

[storm needle]

i think theyve been rebalancing cantarella to be onfield/quickswap with token off field

[frozen drum]

atp i dont really know why they made a Coord for Cantarella

maybe for jinhsi

just bcs zhezhi divorced hsi right after carlotta's release

[opaque flume]

Is zani op

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-cat-vro-cat-gif-17161343143756375842

[lyric fjord]

We dont know at all. In a month or so we'll know her kit

[tired zodiac]

For future characters maybe

Also coord isn't bad

[tired zodiac]

Can't we consider changli as a dps buffer?

[frozen drum]

last time i checked hakushin it was nerfed to 15% from 30%~ dmg

but her forte got buffed instead to 660%*2

😔

not like empyrean was her BiS echo set anyway from the start

[tired zodiac]

oh

[tired zodiac]

all that in 4 second bro

wtf

oh shi i made it work

nah nvm

my input aint registering fast enough

[knotty fiber]

Welcome to quickswapping?

[tired zodiac]

im getting device diffed

[knotty fiber]

[tired zodiac]

bro thats too fast

[knotty fiber]

The high level

[tired zodiac]

my inputs arent even registering

[knotty fiber]

I'm prob somewhere at the high level in quickswap

But not the CNbros level

[tired zodiac]

i try to changli E, sk ER but the E isnt even registering

R is echo btw

for me

[knotty fiber]

You gotta make it work somehow

[tired zodiac]

what can i do when its not even registering my input

i need a better pc and keyboard

[knotty fiber]

I have a big issue cuz of my ping

[tired zodiac]

its joever

my ping is low

50ms is low right?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[tired zodiac]

my keys arent registering

[knotty fiber]

Ppl keep saying the game is client side

But fsr

[tired zodiac]

probably coz i use a cheap keyboard lol

[knotty fiber]

When my ping spikes to like 500-800ms, the input registering gets real shit for me

[tired zodiac]

yeah i knew

it

my keyboard input is slow

fuck i made it work with 2 less moves

[tired zodiac]

@knotty fiber watch this

yeah fuck this

too fast for my pc to handle

[knotty fiber]

It's yumi

It took me really long to take down some of their rotations

[tired zodiac]

Bro i have a better build

But it takes me twice the time

Bro they're using all three characters within 0.7 seconds

My laptop can't handle that fast

[lilac hare]

What’s the rotation here if I may ask?

[neat robin]

Sk whatever til concerto filled, echo, ult, outro -
Sanhua ult forte, skill forte echo(bell), outro -
Brant ult, midair basics/heavies, forte, echo & swapcancel -
Sk enhanced intro

Optimal? Idk
But it works

My brant build is also shit
I’m missing about 40+ cdmg

[lilac hare]

Thank you I will try it soon

[neat robin]

Cant wait for 3x def/hp

Yeah

Useless piece

Whats the chances we ever get a basic% dps who needs the same set

Actually no nvm 4pc is skill bonus too

2nd time

Slowly getting there … 2 more double crit to go

[tired zodiac]

Finally he is good enough

[tired zodiac]

WHAAA

[neat robin]

It was a terrible piece

[tired zodiac]

which weapon?

[tired zodiac]

happens

[neat robin]

String ofc

String for everybody

[tired zodiac]

I need string too

should i get cantarella weapon for encore?

should be better than string no?

[neat robin]

80 cr and with cdmg 4 cost
And she doesnt even have cr passives

I dont think so
Last I saw cantas sig incrluded havoc shred or something

Lemme go see what its looking like currently

[tired zodiac]

it gives you 40 ba bonus and crit dmg

[neat robin]

So 72 cdmg, 40% basic (and cant quickswap)
Or 36 cr (same cv), 12% dmg, 12% atk, and 12% more atk when swap cancelling her skill

The bigger thing is

Everyone likes string

Only basic% types will be okay with cantas sig

Also encore has no sources of cr
You’d only be building for ~60% and shes not a big nuke like hsi that you can just restart for

[tired zodiac]

so stringmaster is better

bro am i the only one changli outro bonus isnt working?

where the fuck is my buff bro wtf

changli outro doesnt work for me

[neat robin]

Idk changli is one of the few chars I skip

[tired zodiac]

ugh

[tired zodiac]

can we not see outro buffs in character menu?

[neat robin]

No its a buff icon

[tired zodiac]

ahh

no wonder

its my first time noticing

thought you can see it in character menu

[lyric fjord]

Outros give deepen buffs. A separate multiplier. Much better than a dmg bonus buff

They also disappear uppon swapping (except healers' outros)

[neat robin]

Hm
Kinda want to try 5050 on sk s1 in 2.2

Just for the comfort

But its never been an issue so probably not

Or just save coral for a year and buy s1-2 down the road if shes not been crept

(I doubt she will be with her rejuv/fallacy buffs, cr cdmg ult buffs, dmg outro & s2 40% atk)

[knotty fiber]

? It's not the same

Outro buffs dmg deepen not dmg bonus

[tired zodiac]

Thanks guys

[tired zodiac]

And barbara c6 once every 10 mins

[burnt shoal]

jinhsi so op i 3 star middle floor 1 with her on first try like last abyss

last abyss need some try this one on first try somehow

but same blessings

middle floor 2 only like 3 tries too

rip i can't do the side floors cause verina is my only healer

[neat robin]

?

Baizhi is free

Or pull brant

[burnt shoal]

so close

woa

jiyan so strong

[dusty crown]

eh

accidentally got changli's weapon with a 10 pulls (from 0 pity) because i wanted to try to get a marcato

xDD

is it good on (not changli)

guess i could put it on sanhua instead of eog

[knotty fiber]

It's SH's bis

[dusty crown]

yay

[lyric fjord]

Hey is fishing event timegated?

[neat robin]

[neat robin]

Yes for the weapon & astrites
16 days left

[neat robin]

Wonder whats actually better

[edgy cobalt]

wouldn’t know

[lyric fjord]

Ok tyvm. And i can do it all in 1 day?

[neat robin]

Maybe? Its a few hrs long

I wouldnt wait til last day lol

[lyric fjord]

ok ty

[rotund drum]

wait till you see the fishing event in 💤

[neat robin]

Yeah it sucked

[rotund drum]

hopefully S0A saves it

[dusty crown]

possibly; i would suggest saving all the shop materials you get for the weapon refinement materials

and astrite

because to clear the entire shop you need to do like 5 premium catches that happen just once a day after you've done the main quest and reached max level or something i think

either way it's at least 5 days to get all from the shop

[lyric fjord]

ok ty guys

[lyric fjord]

it was so bad i uninstalled the game, realized i was not having fun every time i booted the game on

[rotund drum]

hopefully anby saves it

its been like 2 full patches since the last time an interesting char came out

[quasi sable]

How much crit ratios does Changli want

Without sig, just EoG

[neat robin]

70:270 is good goal for anyone with crit nodes & crit weapon

[opaque flume]

Nah 70:310 🔥

[neat robin]

Depends on which weapon

Cdmg weapons go for 70:300 +

But they said eog changli

I wonder if theyll ever give us a 4* spectro

[quasi sable]

I see
It'll take a while to get that ratio
Thanks

What about 70/260?

[vapid river]

just get 10 more cdmg

sounds like either all low rolls or missing 1 double crit

realistically

[quasi sable]

Most of the time I roll low

Even with double crits

[vapid river]

so 12.6*5+150 is 213

depending on what your weapon is or your 4cost is

that's 44 cdmg

so 257

[quasi sable]

I'm using eog

[vapid river]

and that's at the lowest level

yeah so you should have a cdmg main cost

[neat robin]

Something like hsi then

[vapid river]

does she get any cdmg subs from talents?

i don't have changli

but you're at bare minimum 257

[quasi sable]

Hers cr

[vapid river]

getting another 13% cdmg

isn't hard

that's a what 2.6% on average increase throughout the 5 echoes?

that's doable

[neat robin]

If you can get 16% instead of 12% mins on just a few of them yeah

Like my hsi (cr talent, cr sig) same as changli eog would be
75/275

[vapid river]

and at lowest roll on all 5 echoes with eog you'are at 60.8 cr

and with her cr subs

you'll always be at 70% i would imagine

[quasi sable]

I think I can hit 70 cr

But not 260+ cdmg

[neat robin]

Yes you can

[vapid river]

you can't get less than 68.8% cr

as changli with eog

just worry about cdmg rolls

[neat robin]

I’m missing an entire cdmg sub on my jiyan and still have 267 cdmg

[quasi sable]

It'll take a while to get

[vapid river]

ngl i thought you were bia for a second

[quasi sable]

Cdmg nightmare inferno

[neat robin]

How important is hecate echo during holo6

[quasi sable]

Seriously

What I get is cr nightmare

[neat robin]

I almost cleared 1st try without but I can toss one on sk if hecate echo is better than rejuv atk buff

[quasi sable]

No lmao
I'm cfr

[vapid river]

ye i saw

[neat robin]

Ok nvm hecate 6 done
I didnt even get to that crazy phase she does in midair

[quasi sable]

I hate hecate

She stunned and use the finisher move to one-shot me

How'd you dodge that

[neat robin]

You have to ult immediately or just spam dodge til you unfreeze

[quasi sable]

Wait it'll work?

What about her one-shot finishing move

[neat robin]

If you dont get hit by that, no finisher

Immediate ult prevents you from being frozen
Dodge prevents you from being grabbed

[quasi sable]

So I should just saving ult before 2nd phase?

[neat robin]

You can just dodge

But otherwise just whoever is onfield needs ult ready when changing phases

[dusty crown]

Ok but why does it look like brant is a screaming reptile

[neat robin]

What does that even mean 😭

[dusty crown]

Pretend the dot on his hat is an eye. And his skin the inside of reptile's mouth.

[blissful tulip]

You wait until around where her time stop disappears, then dodge

Have a video for it